@HighEliteMajor  @drgnslayr
That was in my list of details.
HEM... it is just part of the process. We both know it is the wrong thing to do... but in the beginning of bringing in that top shelf, you do what you have to do, and then before long your reputation with these players precedes you so you can start being more selective and enforce rules stricter.
Calipari did the same thing a few years back. I remember some of his statements... "I'm sort of the water boy for these guys. I just make sure they have everything they need." He has slowly moved away from being the indentured servant to being a coach.
Self hasn't had to go quite that low... but he did have to bend a bit to get into that top shelf. So it will be a shorter return to some of his old rules before long. I'd say just a couple more years of signing the top tier should do it.
HEM and slayr- I really like what Calipari has done with this group of recruits. He has totally revamped/reinvented his OAD approach and just retained who he wanted to return. I have to give him credit and he hasn't lost a recruit yet or a returner that considered going pro. He knew Randle and Young were gone. But how he kept the others is incredible.
Do you think Calipari told his recruits what Self told Oubre or Turner? These are great thoughts. Also, we all know Self's expectations with all recruits: earn, earn, and earn pt. It would've been silly for Self to tell Wiggins, "earn your pt." Oubre and/or Green will earn their pt. I'd like to see Green play and have a chance to unleash his uber talent. I'd like Self to do exactly what Calipari managed to do in Lexington, and return Oubre, maybe Alex, possibly Turner (if), and heck bring Selden back another year after going to the NC game. Bringing the twins back was phenomenal. Recruits should see that and understand what brought them back. They're NBA good, but realize another year won't hurt. But, Calipari will be feeling it next year when all these returnees leave next year. He will have to retain his new OADs and pursuade them to stay. He has begun a new process at uk and people don't even realize what he's done. Dang he's sly.
Self doesn't have the OAD crop as Calipari, so he can't be too selective. Alex says he may stay a few years, but when the NBA starts calling he will likely change his tune. Alex will be a bit like Randle. Oubre reminds me a lot of Young. Lucas and Cauley-Stein are a bit alike. The twins and Selden are also similar. Ellis and Poythress are somewhat alike in their style of play. We should match really well against uk in November. Turner just may be the ace that gives KU the edge. Dakari Johnson and Cauley-Stein will be a good litmus for Turner. He'll learn exactly what he brings to D1 bball when he faces these big monsters.
