dylans said:
So why did Withey, Charlie Moore, Dedrick Lawson, KJ Lawson, every KU transfer in ever have to sit? The NCAA is a big freaking joke. No consistency, I don’t care what the rule is just enforce it evenly.
This is a recent change. I doubt Withey and the Lawsons even applied for immediate eligibility. Plus for Withey the forced RS year helped a lot.
I'm going to do some player grades but as HEM said this is a glorified practice so grain of salt...
Marcus Garrett: A. Absolutely no complaints, great all around game on both ends.
Ochai Agbaji: A-. He will be a star eventually. Might not be this year yet but that's okay, he can be our 4th-ish best player overall and this team will be excellent.
Jalen Wilson: B-. A mixed bag. Hit a couple shots (missed a bunch too) but looked lost at times. The good news is that figuring out Bill's sets will come in time. He didn't look bad to me, though dribbling might be an adventure. If he keeps developing he will be a real problem at the 4 down the line.
Silvio: B. Not a bad game from him. Got after it on the glass, passed it fairly well actually and got garbage buckets. Very clear to me though that he is a 5. I think there will be many games when you can't afford to play two out of SDS, Dave and Doke at the same time.
Doke: C-. It's a scrimmage but yeah that was really bad. For Doke to thrive we need to go back to the 4 out.
Braun: B. A+ for his role though. He just gets it and will be a factor this year. Can shoot it, gets after it on D and feeds the post well.
Enaruna: B. Can't shoot worth a lick but my goodness everything else is there. Long and got after it on D. Very solid feel for the game.
Dave: C. He uh...rebounded the ball.
Mitch: B. Solid effort and game out of Mitch. He just knows what to do.
HighEliteMajor said:
- Garrett has bad hair too. And the shot is different. Let's give it 10 games. I do disagree with @Bosthawk. Garrett's shot is incredibly important. Defenses can ignore Garrett at the line if he's shooting like last season. That hurts our entire offense. If he's at, say, 33%, it's much different. Garrett looked great overall but his ball handling will be interesting to see vs. high pressure.
Yes.
HighEliteMajor said:
- Agbaji still has the making of being "the man" in crunch time. But his three point shooting bears watching. The perpetual world of low 30% is nowhere for a shooter to live. I think he's a stud.
Yes.
HighEliteMajor said:
- DeSousa seemed off. It's why we have exhibitions. He seems like the streaky kind. Get the ball to him when he's got it going.
I'm not too worried yet. He's a junkyard dog.
We all heard the talk last year that they were still reworking his jumper. It can just be...hard to believe at times. It looked different and better against Hays. Now to see if it holds up. If he can just take the Releford approach of shooting it when he is at the very least pretty open and make it at a respectable low to mid 30% clip it changes the trajectory of this team.
@Bosthawk I disagree with your initial assessment. I think having a guard that can't shoot at all greatly damages the offense and the team overall. Garrett is a very good player in most aspects but at the end of the day you have to be able to make a shot. It's something that matters a lot more when you play better competition. For example last year Garrett was the main reason the Kentucky game was lost. Calipari isn't a genius but he figured that one out. I'm not saying he needs to turn into Steph Curry but he needs to get out of the 20% range to at least force teams to kind of sort of have to cover him on the perimeter. That opens up the possibility to drive and helps prevent total clogging of the lane. When you are 24% from three bad I would argue that outweighs a lot of other things. But if he gets to where I was talking about earlier, he's our second best and most important player behind Dotson.
Edit: I'm not worried about Ochai's defense and effort. Remains to be seen with Moss... I LOVE what I saw from Enaruna on that end.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Easy enough. Onto the Go Rillas
ROCK CHALK IT UP
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Considering the start to each half and no Dot this wasn't too bad.
That was PURE AF.
HOLY SHIT JANK
Okay Silvio.
TRASH REFS GTFO
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Not sure if that's going to work against many other teams, but good for Doke.
Imagine Bill's face if Doke tries that in a game that matters.
DAVID LOOOOL
FarmerJayhawk said:
DOKE WYD
STRAIGHT STYLIN
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Braun is really forking good for a kid who just went through 6th grade graduation
I can say this because someone once accused me of being Conner Frankamp’s little brother. He’s 4 years younger than me.
Meanwhile when I was 14 on a mission trip people were wondering if I was possibly the youth pastor.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes
Bill Self dreams of a player that feeds the post like Braun.
Gonna be awesome when Missouri legacy Braun and COMO kid Harris go into Missouri and beat them.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BRAUN MOM ALERT 🚨🚨🚨
A Missouri family with a kid at KU. YOU HATE TO SEE IT.
Braun gives zero fucks.
Silvio is a monster.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Good extra pass, Jalen.
Bill loves to see it.
Jalen has looked a bit lost at times tonight but getting more comfortable.
DanR said:
100 feet of arms to pass through right now for FH
This team is loooong.
But make no mistake he will be good in time.
Tristan not being able to shoot will keep him in college and prevent him from being a huge factor this year.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
We'll be happy to have Doke when we play Duke and he's matched up with Vernon Carey. Fort Hays has bigs who shoot 3-pointers.
Yeah it's a versatile roster. If Bill starts Silvio and Doke against Nova I will lose my mind tho.
HOLY SHIT THIS DEFENSE. Hays you ticked off Bill. I'd apologize.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.
Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.
On the other hand if Tristan is this good maybe you play him 20/game
Looks good on D. Garrett as well of course but that is expected. This team can be ELITE defensively as long as Bill only plays one center at a time.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.
Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.
I'm extremely concerned about the defense, not the offense.
DanR said:
I know we're mixing up the lineups, but I'd like to see about 5 straight minutes of solid basketball, with someone acting like a point guard.
Well we don't have a PG available...
I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.
Oh hey the defense is good again with just one big. Who would have thought.
Time to go back to one big.
loooooooool
DanR said:
Braun starting second half. I approve
Absolutely
DanR said:
Marcus and Dotson are going to start. Ochai fits into Self's comfort zone too. Tonight is a good example of why it's nice to have a couple extra guards.
Indeed. Rough to have to play Wilson or Enaruna at a guard spot. Prefer both at the 4.
I'd go with Dot, Garrett and Ochai.
BeddieKU23 said:
Enaruna has to play this yr you cant teach that length
Not sure. You can see the potential but he has a ways to go. Will be a monster eventually.
Defense sure started trying after the awful start.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I can’t tell the difference between ESPN+ and my normal tv service. If anything my ESPN+ stream is a bit better
Zero issues for me as well and I have lame internet.
Should be really damn good with Dot and Moss healthy. Don't think Enaruna is ready for much this year.
Also imagine worrying about the offense at all when Dotson can't play. Side note: Dotson should be playing 35+ a night.
FR status
Not Ready: Wilson, Enaruna
READY AF: Braun
Just not even trying to rebound lol
DOKE FT WARNING
Is Garrett just a dead eye shooter now? :P
BeddieKU23 said:
So are they just butchering his name?
Brown is correct.
Braun is actually good.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Oh no we suck
Slops
Go time.