Go time.

Slops

Oh no we suck

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Oh no we suck

GarrettEffect

Won't be seeing Wilson much during the real season this year. Boy oh boy.

Very slow start. Typical to start. Defense is same as always but it's nice to have that length in Doke and Silvio.

Wilson had a nice 3. Some other rushed shots but they will get better looks

We're screwed - fire Self

Typical make everything

I blame BShark.

Nice floater by Ochai, Enaruna with the never take that again long 2

@KirkIsMyHinrich

Me too

Prison Mitch obviously got that haircut in the pen

I think Mitch lost a bet with that haircut.

we'll hit those outside shots at a normal percentage some point, but lordy, this is ugly.

Garrett with the best looking shot in his career! WOO HOO!

Everytime Garrett makes a 3 we take the temperature in hell.

Ok Marcus shot looked marginally better

Omg that went in

Braun!

Braun is that guy

Braun is actually good.

That’s Brown.

Garrett’s stroke looks better. That wasn’t a knuckleball

So are they just butchering his name?

Braun is the real deal. Of all the new guys, he's the one I think has the killer instinct.

BeddieKU23 said:

So are they just butchering his name?

Brown is correct.

@BShark

Interesting. Thx

Self did say he was a possession stealer and it didnt take him long

@BeddieKU23 Not just his. I think he said "Eruna" when referring to Enaruna.

Fort hays big man going hunting after the game.

someone told garrett to work on his shot

Is Garrett just a dead eye shooter now? :P

BShark said:

Is Garrett just a dead eye shooter now? :P

From your lips to God’s ears

DOKE FT WARNING

Yep. He’s gonna be the guy everyone hates...

“It’s pronounced BROWN not BRON.”

Doke's form looks better from the free throw line despite the clunkers

Dennis Rodman is alive and well.

Just not even trying to rebound lol

Silvio: elite level garbage man

FR status

Not Ready: Wilson, Enaruna

READY AF: Braun

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dennis Rodman is alive and well.

exactly what I was thinking! Silvio just went and got ready for the rebound before the ball was even in the air.

I see David “Bambi” McCormack has made an appearance. Right next to Marcus “Steph Curry” Garrett.

Who is this Garrett guy???

Less arch on Garrett's shot. It's working.

@DanR It worked for Michael Jordan. Kind of.

@FarmerJayhawk

Every team needs one.

Also imagine worrying about the offense at all when Dotson can't play. Side note: Dotson should be playing 35+ a night.

KU get a new barber? Guys are stylin'

Prediction: Braun is the real deal.

Braun is Dwyane Wade confirmed.

Christian Braun: Looks like a choir boy, plays like a Laettner. Wait, that's redundant.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Braun is Dwyane Wade confirmed.

Wade has Christian Braun PJ’s

@FarmerJayhawk You'll have to be more specific. I'm assuming Braun has many pairs.

Guys forgot we were actually playing a game tonight lol. Pretty sloppy as expected.

Cloud Co. shoutout! Proud AA holder.

Wow Mitch gets fouled and that's on him hahaha

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@FarmerJayhawk You'll have to be more specific. I'm assuming Braun has many pairs.

I mean Dwyane Wade wears PJ’s with Christian Braun logos

Brown for the heisman!

How's everyone's ESPN+ link. Mine stops every one or two minutes.

Should be really damn good with Dot and Moss healthy. Don't think Enaruna is ready for much this year.

I can’t tell the difference between ESPN+ and my normal tv service. If anything my ESPN+ stream is a bit better

@stoptheflop in Lawrence on Midco, it's better than usual. Football video quality is terrible, but not bad in AFH.

FarmerJayhawk said:

I can’t tell the difference between ESPN+ and my normal tv service. If anything my ESPN+ stream is a bit better

Zero issues for me as well and I have lame internet.

@FarmerJayhawk The commentary is certainly better.

Nasty D by Garrett.

So Ochai has some athleticism.

Wow ochai

WE GOT A DAVE ARMSTRONG WOW

Enaruna has to play this yr you cant teach that length

Fun here

7 rows behind self

Defense sure started trying after the awful start.

@Crimsonorblue22 Wave at us

@Crimsonorblue22 Yell, "Mitch did you lose a bet?" I'll let you know if I can hear you.

BeddieKU23 said:

Enaruna has to play this yr you cant teach that length

Not sure. You can see the potential but he has a ways to go. Will be a monster eventually.

Prison Mitch now has the haircut to match.

!alt text ↗

Dotson, Moss, Ochai, Marcus. Which guard comes off the bench when everyone is healthy? Or do we start 4 guards?

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dotson, Moss, Ochai, Marcus. Which guard comes off the bench when everyone is healthy? Or do we start 4 guards?

Self said to expect 4 guards maybe half the time

I'd go with Dot, Garrett and Ochai.

Marcus and Dotson are going to start. Ochai fits into Self's comfort zone too. Tonight is a good example of why it's nice to have a couple extra guards.

Prediction for number of dunks for Doke in the second half? I'm going with 4.

DanR said:

Marcus and Dotson are going to start. Ochai fits into Self's comfort zone too. Tonight is a good example of why it's nice to have a couple extra guards.

Indeed. Rough to have to play Wilson or Enaruna at a guard spot. Prefer both at the 4.

Braun starting second half. I approve

DanR said:

Braun starting second half. I approve

Absolutely

Fat doke might have been better

loooooooool

Oh boy

Jeez that was ugly

What's the deal with the Fort Hays set shots on 3 balls? I haven't seen men shoot set shots since the 60's.

Time to go back to one big.

Still need to work out the Doke-Silvio hi-low combo. That was useless. I'm guessing (hoping) Dotson runs the show a little better.

@stoptheflop still pretty much the 60s out there in Hays.

Oh hey the defense is good again with just one big. Who would have thought.

Those fast breaks remind of a time when we had frank and that was automatic

@BeddieKU23 frank wouldn't pass it!

Mac stop dribbling.

@DanR

Exactly and ochai should have taken it to the rack

@DanR I'm giving Dok a pass tonight because it's been a long time since he played in a game.

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

I know we're mixing up the lineups, but I'd like to see about 5 straight minutes of solid basketball, with someone acting like a point guard.

@BShark Especially when you switch everything. And especially against teams like this.

DanR said:

I know we're mixing up the lineups, but I'd like to see about 5 straight minutes of solid basketball, with someone acting like a point guard.

Well we don't have a PG available...

Garrett doing what he does.

BShark said:

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.

For the record, I ran into Garrett at HyVee and couldn't get past him in the aisle

Lol

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.

On the other hand if Tristan is this good maybe you play him 20/game

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.

I'm extremely concerned about the defense, not the offense.

Mitch is our best big man

FarmerJayhawk said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.

On the other hand if Tristan is this good maybe you play him 20/game

Looks good on D. Garrett as well of course but that is expected. This team can be ELITE defensively as long as Bill only plays one center at a time.

Smartest

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Mitch is our best big man

He knows what to do!

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

I think Bill has to realize that Silvio, Doke and Dave are all 5s and you certainly can't play two 5s at the same time.

Eh, idk. Don’t have your two best guys that stretch the floor. Two really good shooters will make it work. And Silvio and Doke have almost never played together. Patience.

I'm extremely concerned about the defense, not the offense.

I’m not yet. Just not a big enough sample size. Need some time to get rotations right.

HOLY SHIT THIS DEFENSE. Hays you ticked off Bill. I'd apologize.

We'll be happy to have Doke when we play Duke and he's matched up with Vernon Carey. Fort Hays has bigs who shoot 3-pointers.

@KirkIsMyHinrich might happen a lot

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

We'll be happy to have Doke when we play Duke and he's matched up with Vernon Carey. Fort Hays has bigs who shoot 3-pointers.

Carey just thinks he’s a wing

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

We'll be happy to have Doke when we play Duke and he's matched up with Vernon Carey. Fort Hays has bigs who shoot 3-pointers.

Yeah it's a versatile roster. If Bill starts Silvio and Doke against Nova I will lose my mind tho.

@FarmerJayhawk Well he's 270 so I'm confident our bigs can at least stay in front of him.

Can’t believe how poorly our bigs r playing! Letting lil’s rip ball. Shooting away from basket, can’t rebound then

Do we have a nickname for Enauramalama yet? I Don't know how to spell

If you had Doke as the last KU player to score you can collect your winnings

where can we track the score?

Here we go... four 6-5+ guards and Silvio

Tristan not being able to shoot will keep him in college and prevent him from being a huge factor this year.

But make no mistake he will be good in time.

100 feet of arms to pass through right now for FH

DanR said:

100 feet of arms to pass through right now for FH

This team is loooong.

Good extra pass, Jalen.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Good extra pass, Jalen.

Bill loves to see it.

Jalen has looked a bit lost at times tonight but getting more comfortable.

FH run incoming.

Silvio is a monster.

My lord. Silvio is a beast. Once he knocks the rust off look tf out.

Is Moss expected to play against Duke?

Should play against the Go Rillas

Braun gives zero fucks.

BRAUN MOM ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

If Garrett makes 3's we're winning a championship this season, boys.

Marcus. My gods.

FarmerJayhawk said:

BRAUN MOM ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

A Missouri family with a kid at KU. YOU HATE TO SEE IT.

That pass too. Jeeeeebus

Gonna be awesome when Missouri legacy Braun and COMO kid Harris go into Missouri and beat them.

Wow, that was actually a good half-court possession.

PERFECT ENTRY PASS SHOOT THAT INTO MY AORTA

Bill Self dreams of a player that feeds the post like Braun.

FarmerJayhawk said:

PERFECT ENTRY PASS SHOOT THAT INTO MY AORTA

no hesitation

Wow Tristan. Being ambidextrous is good.

Brown's entry-passing fits well with the UPS meme from earlier.

Also I like Tristan.

Braun is really forking good for a kid who just went through 6th grade graduation

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Brown's entry-passing fits well with the UPS meme from earlier.

Also I like Tristan.

Braun's*

FarmerJayhawk said:

Braun is really forking good for a kid who just went through 6th grade graduation

I can say this because someone once accused me of being Conner Frankamp’s little brother. He’s 4 years younger than me.

Are they chanting, "We want Teahan."?

@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes

DOKE WYD

FarmerJayhawk said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Braun is really forking good for a kid who just went through 6th grade graduation

I can say this because someone once accused me of being Conner Frankamp’s little brother. He’s 4 years younger than me.

Meanwhile when I was 14 on a mission trip people were wondering if I was possibly the youth pastor.

FarmerJayhawk said:

DOKE WYD

STRAIGHT STYLIN

Big Country never did that like Doke.

DAVID LOOOOL

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

DOKE WYD

STRAIGHT STYLIN

Slowest bucket since Clyde

wut Dave?

Not sure if that's going to work against many other teams, but good for Doke.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Not sure if that's going to work against many other teams, but good for Doke.

Imagine Bill's face if Doke tries that in a game that matters.

Ginger sighting

TRASH REFS GTFO

WE GOT TEAHAN

Teahan can't go over the back. He's Teahan.

Missing bunnies. If found pls return to AFH. Thx.

If the iceland kid has to come out, then Teahan will be the palest guy on the floor

I hate replays of injuries.

Come on Silvio. Go up strong my dude.

Okay Silvio.

HOLY SHIT JANK

Jank with the dagger

The Jank is open.

That was PURE AF.

Late Jank’ing hours

Considering the start to each half and no Dot this wasn't too bad.

props to the ESPN+ shoe squeaking audio guy

Easy enough. Onto the Go Rillas

FarmerJayhawk said:

Easy enough. Onto the Go Rillas

ROCK CHALK IT UP

..

..

:face_vomiting:

We good

Always good for that1st practice. - Some thoughts: - - glad this was exhibition. - - -Silvio showing the rust, think he will be ok - - -kinda disappointed from the big aspect - Combo reason - either the big's weren't working hard enough to catch the ball inside - -OR the wings weren't working hard enough to get the ball inside - Our Big's should of had a field day tonight.

Marcus looks like he might have improved his shot a bit - - - Braun had a nice game , he looked pretty comfortable to me actually - -looked like a nice all around game for him - might play more then we thought. - -Give Enaruna a little time -- he be ok

Free throws still suck at times - but it will get better 1st scrimmage - everyone shaking off some rust - - we won - -another week of practice and on to the next one - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

Enaruna has to play this yr you cant teach that length

Try to get him minutes and see if he can get going. But I think he needs a year. (I love basing all of this off of one game lol).

Lolz at Marcus. Question from Scott, “who does Christian remind you of?” Marcus, immediately, “Me.”

I think we saw some good stuff tonight and some bad as per usual in the first exhibition. The freshman are obviously super green but boy they ain't afraid to shoot lol. I'd really hope we see Moss next week so we can see what he has. I still think a 4 guard line up is the best way to win basketball games. 90% of the teams we will play, will have a shooting big. The two post is fine for stretches but isnt something that I think will work a ton. Just like the RPO and air raid style that people claimed wouldnt work in the NFL. Now most teams are running it and scoring is up big time. Same could he said about shooting bigs in the NBA. There is a reason people aren't running Dean Smith's 4 corners anymore. Hopefully Self sees this and remembers the success of 4 good guards in 16, 17 and 18. I personally am for a Dotson, Garrett, Ochai, Moss and Doke line up. I know people dislike Garrett offensively but if can hit 30+% of his 3s, he'll be great. Both he and Ochai were hands down the best players on the floor tonight, tough to see either not starting.

Lineup will be Dotson Garrett Ochai Silvio Doke against dook

@KirkIsMyHinrich his hair looks like that kid from tcu

The announcers after the game said that we might RS the wrong big man. Instead we should RS Dave. That way we can use Dok/SDS at the 5 and mitch at the 4 to guard the 3 point line better. If that works outs then for next year we could have Dave/SDS at the 5 Wilson/Enaruna at the 4. What do you guys think?

For me I think it's a little unfair to blind side a player with a RS.

Dave isn't going to rs because he isn't a five year guy. Fact of the matter is we have 3 centers on d and Mitch is a center on offense.

BShark said:

Dave isn't going to rs because he isn't a five year guy. Fact of the matter is we have 3 centers on d and Mitch is a center on offense.

This.

And Silvio is athletic enough to guard a stretch 4 if he is engaged. I personally think the reason we can't guard the 3 is our system is just too help-oriented. It's a Bill philosophy thing more than being incapable of doing it.

Kcmatt7 said:

BShark said:

Dave isn't going to rs because he isn't a five year guy. Fact of the matter is we have 3 centers on d and Mitch is a center on offense.

This.

And Silvio is athletic enough to guard a stretch 4 if he is engaged. I personally think the reason we can't guard the 3 is our system is just too help-oriented. It's a Bill philosophy thing more than being incapable of doing it.

Something to keep an eye on for sure. Hard to get too worked up about Hays when the players weren't all that locked in and we were without our best player and at worst our first guard off the bench, possibly another starter eventually.

Kcmatt7 said:

BShark said:

Dave isn't going to rs because he isn't a five year guy. Fact of the matter is we have 3 centers on d and Mitch is a center on offense.

This.

And Silvio is athletic enough to guard a stretch 4 if he is engaged. I personally think the reason we can't guard the 3 is our system is just too help-oriented. It's a Bill philosophy thing more than being incapable of doing it.

Right on ... our help has put us out of position. Our help has been geared to defend inside working out. Our help has not funneled shots to the 8-18 foot range.

Our defense needs to be geared to defend two nearly co-equal threats — 1a dunk/layups, and 1b three pointer. We should encourage and help create two point jumpers for our opponents as the better alternative.

We haven’t been able to guard the three because we have not had a defensive philosophy that treats deep outside threats — the three pointer — on par with dunks/layups.