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@Lulufulu

Hypothesis.

It just lets the facts attract around it and support it , or refute it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

What concerns me most is that I have seen no alternative hypotheses attracting more facts that support them. Hypotheses are supposed to include facts, not exclude them. Hypotheses that do not include remarks by Rick Pitino or exclude other facts and observations seem not inclusive enough. And I am for including all remarks by rick Pitino and others. Hypotheses are supposed to include the facts and be supported by the facts as they emerge. I am happy to consider other hypotheses that include the facts and fit the facts as they emerge. Seeking verified explanation is fun.

How Bad Can This Get? • Apr 10, 2015 03:37 PM

Seriously, it appears Self has the bases covered even in worst case.

Perry will probably jump. That nose punch made playing for money NOW the only reason for a high IQ kid to keep playing at all. Otherwise he phones a senior season in and goes to Oxford with a phone call from the right person.

Self will bring in 3 new bigs--Bragg, Diallo , Thorne--and Jaylen Brown to replace Oubre.

If Perry stays, Brown to UK and Perry to 3 if Greene struggles next step up.

This team will get the new bigs a bunch of work at WUG, ensure a quick start, and a big man rotation sure to win another conference title and a 1 or 2 seed and a sweet 16 or elite 8.

I don't expect any KU grads to play at the WUG, unless someone were trying to work from an injury, like Rose last off season.

The problems that will remain? Not enough footers to deal with the four footer rotations at the Nike stacks and referee bias the last ten minutes of every second half against the Nike stacks.

Hypothetically speaking, there apparently won't be any more unselected NCAA winners till Big Shoes reach a new oligopolistic arrangement, and till Big Agents get rid of the current generation of coaches at unconquered elite programs via designer scandals and recruiting starvation and get their guys in as coaches. This is APPARENTLY ALL about controlling market share and pinch point franchises. Pretty simple really. Just took awhile to wade through the OLD THINK and misinformation.

Rock Chalk!

How Bad Can This Get? • Apr 10, 2015 03:01 PM

Things just got worse: Learned Hall nuclear reactor melts down… Allen Fieldhouse radioactive for 10,000 years! Developing...

(Note: All fiction. No malice.)

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 12:09 PM

@JayhawkRock78

I might have been to that joint in Seal Beach. I wonder if all those ordnance bunkers are still by the freeway in in Seal Beach. Craziest place in history for storing stuff--on a fault line!!!!

Ksu • Apr 10, 2015 11:47 AM

There is nothing wrong with Bruce Weber that being fired can't fix.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 05:22 AM

@REHawk

Holy cow!!!! LOL! Funniest Name I ever heard for a restaurant. How old is the place? In the mother of all coincidences, in high school, I used to go with a friend to stay in his grand father's cabin on the water near Sunrise Beach!!!! Back then the lake and the cabins were all pretty primitive, but I just looked at a map for the Gravois arm and I bet I drove by that place if it existed back in the late 1960s!!!!!

But alas, no I don't think I ever ate there. But it is absolutely going on my list of must eat places!!!!!!

I've been wanting to get back to the lake for years, but everytime I get ready to do it, someone tells me how crowded and built up it has become and, well, I get protective of my precious memories of the place, and of water skiing buck naked on a slalom ski and ploughing a rooster tail onto some young phillies sunning on a dock, and drinking 5.0 beer in Missouri instead of the 3.2 stuff in Kansas, and going into Bagnell Dam like a lonely teenage bronkin' buck with a pink carnation and pick up truck to see if we could score some pie and sweeten the snatch of the sunrise and after spending all of our money never even getting to first base with any of the girls of summer. But that old 16' Mark Twain with the 95 horsepower Mercury Tower of Power in line screamin' six never let us down and out the next morning we would go to ski off all of that sexual frustration of young manhood and the go try again the next night!!!!

Thanks for recalling some wonderful memories for me, coach.

Dang, I have gotta get to Big Dick's Half Way Inn!!!!

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 03:46 AM

@sfbahawk

:-)

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 03:46 AM

@approxinfinity

Great Q and I don't know.

@dylans

I have a feeling you are right, but I was trying to play take what I was given. Thanks for weighing in.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 01:13 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

Alright, I am coming totally clean. There is the worst bowling alley in western civilization located in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and it has a restaurant called Cub's sports bar attached to it. Cub's is the last connection with the beer drinking underbelly of my teen years. It has a picture of Tom Harmon in his old UM football uniform. It has every UM great in basketball and football on its walls. It is a dive. It is the ultimate dive. It is full of drunks and downers most of the time except on game days, when it is brimming with families and students. The bar is always filled with a combination of alcoholics, men who don't want to go home, and an occasional auto journalist falling off the wagon intermittently. It has burgers named after every school in the Big Ten. They are all pretty good. But I always had the Badger Burger out of loyalty to my old grad school. It is wrong of me to love it. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

BUT GOD HELP ME, I DO LOVE IT SO!!!!

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 12:56 AM

@JayhawkRock78

The Los Angeles basin is my hamburger valhalla.

Fat burger. Tommy's chill burger. Whattaburger. Irv's Burger Bucket. In'n Out burger (doggie style). Plus Hamburger Habit up in Santa Barbara. Plus Islands burgers and fries at any number of SoCal locations, but my favorite is in La Jolla across the freeway but with in sight of the twin salt rocket ship Mormon temple. And then there was a fabulous place in the stretch of LA between down town and Miracle Mile that only locals knew. Can't remember the name.

I could go on, but you get the idea.

I am a charter member of HamburgersAnonymous.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 12:46 AM

@HighEliteMajor

I long ago quit paying attention to any recruiting web sites.

@konkeyDong is the only credible asset in the field.

The BIA (Basketball Intelligence Agency) has offered him over $750,000 in black monies laundered through a casino in Biarritz and then relaundered through an online betting consortium specializing in laundering black ops monies through betting on the Duke and UK games in March Madness. But his character is untouchable. He says he is on a quest to become The Last Honest Recruiting expert and that no amount of black ops monies from the BIA black budget will be enough to deflect him.

He is to recruiting intelligence what Ian Flemming was to MI-5, MI-6, and espionage fiction.

One day I fully intend to publish a recruiting intelligence novel based on him published under a pseudonmn, of course.

The working title is "From the Crimean with Love." It is the story of KD joining forces with a beautiful Russian spy trying to exfiltrate the greatest big man in the history of Central Asian basketball--8'3" tall Vladimir Korgusov--the first 8 footer to be as athletic as Wilt Chamberlain who can also make 80% of his free throws.

In addition to killing over two dozen of the leading recruiting gurus trying to do the same thing, he has sex with the beautiful Svetlana Molotov, who likes it shaken, not stirred, and delivers Vlad to Big Man U. Sasha Kaun and Svi will make cameo appearances in the film adaptation as themselves.

Rock Chalk baby!!

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 12:28 AM

@Crimsonorblue22 and @Lulufulu

The world is sharply divided into people that view White Castle as a public health crisis and those addicted to them. There is no in-between. I have actually seen persons turn pale at the thought of eating one. Others, like myself, have been known schedule connecting flights with layovers long enough to rent a car and go get some, when it has been more than six months. The frozen ones in the store are not a substitute. They are just close enough to make you despair.

Just so no one does anything rash, you try them at your own risk. To put their freakish weirdness in perspective, they are the only known steamed hamburger patty in the last 3000 years at least. They are a cult, or maybe better an occult food, kind of the like the restaurants in dark streets in towns in non touristed parts of Italy where they serve horse and Italians shuffle in with their heads down hoping no one will seem them go in. White Castle is so weird it had a movie made with one of its restauarants in St. Louis as a setting with James Spader in it before he became recognizably (but marvelously) weird. Don't say I didn't warn you. Only about 1 in 10-20 persons will EVER eat a second one. But if you are the 1, then it is kind of like joining the hamburger equivalent of the undead. I suspect Bela Lugosi, or at least Ed Wood, would have loved them.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 10, 2015 12:24 AM

@Lulufulu

You will live longer. :-)

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 09, 2015 09:19 PM

@DinarHawk

God I love those double cheeses with onions.

Not supposed to eat them now.

So only do it when no one is around.

@JayhawkRock78

HOWLING!

@drgnslayr

You are so right about this. I remember seeing Julius Erving in person from the fourth row end of the court, when he was still pretty young. I had seen probably a hundred KU and college games in person by that time. He was on a fast break. I just remember watching him take off from the top of the key and I was expecting him to pull up and drain a jump shot. But then he kept moving up and forward. I was expecting him to come down and shoot kind of a driving hook. But he kept coming forward with the ball in his right hand fully extended, like it was out on the end of a pitchfork, or something. Then I got worried that he was actually going to hit the back board from about the waist up. Then from the head up. Then he just crammed it down and ducked his head and pulled it to the side a little bit to clear the rim and he landed kind of like some giant flipping albatross and then as if it were nothing at all--not a hint of celebration--he just curled gracefully around and loped back down court to play defense. It was still the damnedest single play I have ever seen in person and I attended several Show Time Lakers games and a Shaq Attack or two. I know Julius was supposed to be only 6-6 or 6-8, but he played the tallest of any guy his size that I ever saw before or since. He was almost spooky, because at other times on the floor he moved around just like an ordinary person. It was like he transmogrified into this different creature when he was in transition.

@JayHawkFanToo

Thank you very much. Hmmm. Wouldn't 69 to 74 be either 4, or 5 years, depending on how one counts it? So: if he were coaching service teams 3 years, then what would he have been doing the other one or two years?

Did you happen to notice anything about that period of service? I haven't read a book about him, but the stuff on line doesn't have anything else that I can see.

@JRyman

It must be the off season.

Thanks for giving me the chance to defend myself from things I don't claim. :-)

Its good to play defense. Keeps one nimble. ;-)

You appear to be spinning my spinning numbers. Are you? :-)

Next.

I don't know if shoe brand lean impacts how players are drafted. If you want me to draft a hypothesis about it, I guess I could, but I have not really felt a hypothesis was necessarily in order yet. I can imagine circumstances where it might, but I can imagine circumstances where it might not. I wouldn't see anything wrong with it if shoe brand lean were a factor in drafting players, would you?

That causes me to interrupt and ask you why would it be a bad thing if ShoeCo brand lean were one of the factors considered in drafting players? I don't see what would be wrong with it. It would be like picking a UNC student over a UC Berkeley student for a job in Chapel Hill, because you had better relations with and more respect for and did more business with UNC folks than UC Berkeley folks in Piedmont region of North Carolina. But I digress.

Wiggins situation in Cleveland is one where I could imagine that it might have played a factor in being drafted, if they were in negotiations with Lebron as the draft occurred, but I don't ever recall saying that it did play a factor.

On the hand, I do recall wondering about if Wigs shoe lean was perhaps a part of the reason Wigs was traded out of Cleveland AFTER Lebron signed with Cleveland. But that is not quite what you appear to be suggesting about me.

Oh,well while I am playing defense, how about I play a little pre-emptive defense and defend myself from something you haven't even inaccurately accused me of...yet...at least I don't recall you have. :-)

I want to play this kind of defense for awhile, because at least it is about something that interests me. :-)

Wiggins reputedly was once a Nike lean in high school and reputedly the greatest prospect since Lebron James, then Wigs in something of a surprise move went to an adidas school with a coach contracted with adidas. He was drafted next by Cleveland. He was drafted the Number one player in the draft. Cleveland then signed premier Nike endorser, Lebron James. Cleveland then traded the Number one pick in the draft and the reputed greatest prospect since Lebron, and perhaps by then an adidas endorser, to Minnesota for a center who was never considered the greatest prospect since Lebron to my recollection, but who had played well for a franchise that had not been very successful, as far as I recall. Hmmm. In turn, the trade did not work out very well for Cleveland. Hmmm. And while Wigs has played well in Minnesota, It would appear not to have helped Wig's career much as an endorser to play in a small midwestern market, like Minneapolis, as opposed to having played with Lebron in Cleveland, a larger market team in the Eastern Time Zone. Do you see why one might wonder? Not be sure. Not be categorical. But wonder? Maybe even hypothesize? But not claim it as a fact, or a certainty.

Is there anything else that I do not recall saying that you might like inaccurately to imply I said that I might for your and my edification and exercise defend myself against? :-)

P.S.: I recall you are in a lot of chronic pain and I sincerely hope you have found some effective assistance with it. I know chronic pain is a terrible burden. Rock Chalk and thanks for responding to my posts even though we differ a bit on things.

@JRyman

Spinning the numbers implies I am trying to deceive you. Why would I want to deceive you? Quite to the contrary, I am trying to understand what is going on and admit freely that I don't yet. Should I infer that you are spinning the numbers precisely because you are accusing me of doing something I have no reason, or intention, to do? I don't think so. I think this is a difficult and sensitive topic for folks to think about and discuss, because it suggests possible systemic unfairness being involved in a game we love. But systemic unfairness is not necessarily illegal.

Regarding the appearance of shaping outcomes and/or spreads of games, I am assuming as a layman that whatever is going on is probably legal, or it would have already been addressed by authorities.

And to reiterate I am not at all convinced the ShoeCoes would be the ones to shape the outcomes of games, if they were being shaped in some legal way, or even in some illegal way. I am a layman and do not know about the illegal ways with sufficient expertise to contribute much knowledgeable on that count.

All I can say with some confidence is that whatever is creating the appearance of outcomes and/or spreads being shaped, it is not yet transparent and as a layman I have no reason yet to suspect illegality.

@JayHawkFanToo

Actually, regarding Pitino, the portion I referred to is not at all ripped out of context. What matters to me in this instance and what is relevant about what he said in this instance is that Rick Pitino thought that the NCAA thought that whatever was going on was okay and so he concluded it was okay too. But I would be glad for you to paste in the entirety of his comments to flesh it out, if you think it would clarify the part about him concluding that if the NCAA thought it was okay that he did too.

@JRyman

What leads you to believe the shoe companies necessarily have a stranglehold on the outcome of games?

I am NOT at all convinced at this time that the ShoeCoes are the drivers shaping the outcomes of games, if the outcomes of games really were in fact being shaped.

Please explain to me on your reasoning and facts that makes you think that ShoeCoes are determining the outcomes of games.

@JRyman

It is worth knowing, but what is the significance of Duke having worn adidas in the early 90s to today? Are you just making a point about adidas influence in the 1990s? Or are you saying the relationships between adidas and Nike have changed substantively the last 25 years, or that they have not changed substantively the last 25 years. I need some clarification here, if I am to interpret your post. Or perhaps it was not meant for me?

@HawksWin

The thing to remember about all of this stuff is something Rick Pitino said in the news story during last season about agent and agent runner involvement channelling recruits toward certain brands. I recall he said something like if its okay with the NCAA then it must be okay. As fans and laymen, we have to assume that everything that is going on is legal, whether we think its right, or fair, or not, because we are fans and laymen. There is no reason for us to assume, or infer ANYTHING illegal is going on with shoes. I would even say the same thing about the apparent refereeing biases I have been noting of late. Referee bias is not necessarily the same thing as illegality. I suppose there might be ways that refereeing bias could occur that would be illegal, but I can also imagine ways that it might not be illegal. Take professional wrestling of the kind that has always appeared to be staged and scripted. To my knowledge, they are not violating any law by staging that sort of professional wrestling. If we look at the NCAA Tournament, as a layman, I am not familiar with any laws that require the NCAA to stage an authentically competitive tournament without referee bias. Maybe such laws exist, but I don't know about them. As a layman, I would reckon that if the NCAA wanted to turn D1 into kind of a basketball version of professional wrestling that it could do so. Maybe some lawyer will weigh in on this, but I cannot recall any criminal statute that says NCAA Division 1 Tournament has to be fair. It is one of the peculiarities of much of sport, or at least it appears to me so at this point time. Unfairness and inequity are not always necessarily illegal, I reckon, though I would of course defer to a knowledgeable legal authority on this sort of thing.

@JayHawkFanToo

That is a pretty impressive list of 148 players that Nike has under contract.

Nike 148.
adidas 82.
Under Armour ?

Oligopolies being what they are, we should expect Under Armour to reach about 40, shortly, if a serious push by other companies were underway. We should expect about, oh, maybe 6-12 total over time, with a few blips upward during the land rush phase and then a settling out at about 6-10 in ten to 20 years. And these will source their petroleum from a dozen so petroleum refiners that are financed by the same private central banking system whose owners own controlling interests in a half to two thirds of the petroleum refiners, while their central bank finances 50% of the annual operating budgets.

One more thing about this 148/82 ratio. It is kind of a testament to how resilient the Nike-agent complex appears to be given that adidas has been aggressively trying to offset Euro losses by aggressively growing American market penetration and has as most achieved very, very, VERY expensive second banana status among NBA player share. A logical expectation would be that now that Nike has withstood the concentrated effort to buy a larger share of the player endorsement market that we are not likely to see Nike go on the offensive increasingly, which should over time winnow down adidas hard earned share, unless a big time player like a Blackstone continues to feel bullish about adidas.

I wonder how inclusive and recent these lists are? Do you have any reason to think they are inclusive?

Also, I wonder if these lists at all substantively contradict the reputed 80/20 split between Nike-agent complex leaning players and adidas-agent complex leaning players reputedly starting in the power AAU programs? I mean, I wonder if the players that are not good enough to garner endorsements still constitute an 80/20 split? Logic would suggest that they would still have that sort of a proportioning.

Next, the folks in Industrial City, Indonesia, that have reputedly tended to make Nike and adidas shoes must be very bummed about the entry of major Chinese shoecos into the sweepstakes. There may be shortly a rather large supply of excess production capacity in industrial City that could get into tactical shoe market and dramatically cut the cost of war fighting footwear, as the regime change wars likely broaden in the coming 5 years. Ugh!

Its a wild and wooly global economy regionalizing right and left.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 09, 2015 06:32 PM

@konkeyDong

Thanks. I'm salavating now. :-)

After graduating from Westpoint near the height of the Vietnam War, from 1969 to 1972 Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski served as an officer in the U.S. Army.

What did he do for active duty? I googled a bit and found no reference to what he did on active duty. Does anyone know?

I got curious about his military service while looking at his W&L statements for a post I was thinking of writing.

He mentions his ties with the U.S. Army frequently and so I wondered: what exactly did he do for Uncle Sam during the Vietnam War?

Cliff to Draft, But Whither Snacks? • Apr 09, 2015 06:03 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I recall the same.

I'm hearing Diallo to Kansas... • Apr 09, 2015 06:02 PM

@konkeyDong

Can Diallo step in and guard the post, and score back to the basket, or is he just a probable 15-20 minute rotation guy that will not really be a cornerstone till his second season? Just wondering.

I've got to weigh in here and say that I am addicted to White Castle hamburgers, that I have been through several failed 12 step attempts at giving them up, and that if Mark Cuban were to manage a White Castle for a day, as he managed a Dairy Queen for a day, it would help me give up my addiction.

In case your firm that reputedly scoops up content for repackaging on the internet picks this post up, just kidding, Mark. :-)

@JayHawkFanToo

Thanks for posting the list. It helps take what I am saying out of the ethers. It amounts to about 82 players, according to my squinting, feeble eyes.

30 NBA teams x 12 active players/team = 360 player slots

82 adidas contracted players/360 slots = 23% of NBA roster slots belong to adidas contracted players

This percentage of adidas contracted NBA players closely tracks with the percentage of adidas leaning players with power AAU teams sponsored by adidas vs.power AAU teams sponsored by Nike.

I hypothesize that there are in effect two professional networks of players in the NBA that NBA management must rely on and draw employees from: one Nike-agent complex leaning and one adidas-agent complex leaning.

One supplies 77% of the roster slots.

One supplies only 23% of the roster slots.

We don't have statistics yet, but I would hypothesize, professional networks being how they are in other professions, there would be some clustering of among franchise; i.e., some franchises would tend to favor Nike-agent complex leaning players in the fungible classification of players, over adidas-agent complex leaning. This tendency to cluster would often rule out a number of franchises almost entirely for adidas-agent complex leaning players, who start out as a small minority to begin with.

When you are a member of a professional network with only a 23% foot print in the job market, and find your self needing to look for a new slot on a new team, you face sharply reduced odds of finding a slot open to an adidas-agent complex leaning player. It is not that you cannot get another job, it is that you have many less choices to choose from.

For what its worth, I do not think the adidas contract for uniforms with ALL of the NBA, would alter this dynamic significantly, since this dynamic would logically be expected to operate at the franchise level. I doubt that if Nike were to take over the contract for supplying uniforms to the NBA that it would significantly alter the dynamic either.

But as usual, I am very grateful to you for weighing in and for your take and for the chunk of data that you presented that set me thinking further. You are always thinking and bringing a new angle that I had not considered. I appreciate it. And yes I could still be wrong about all of this.

Rock Chalk!

Cliff to Draft, But Whither Snacks? • Apr 09, 2015 05:04 PM

@drgnslayr

I would even go a step further. Norm and Kurtis have proven themselves over now long careers as assistant coaches capable of recruiting good players. Snacks has done the same over a shorter period, recruiting a goodly number of players for Bruce Weber, who might be a tough guy to attract players to for a number of reasons.

Why don't we stop comparing how well our staff is recruiting with recruiters at the Nike-agent complex programs, and start comparing them solely to recruiters at adidas-agent complex programs, since KU is contracted with adidas and so would most probably most closely aligned with adidas-agent complex recruiting base.

For example, compare our staff's recruiting with Rick Pitino's staff at Louisville.

Pitino has been having exactly the same difficulty landing well-rounded classes that KU has had since KU won the 2008 ring.

Every year, Rick seems to be patching an piecing either in back court, or in front court. Even his recent ring team won with back court guys that were pint sized guards that Rick basically had to make do with and play X-axis ball with.

This season's Louisville team had four near footers, but these guys were largely projects IMHO.

Rick has not been getting anywhere near the depth of quality players that the apparent Nike-agent complex designated stacks at UK, Duke, and UA have been signing, but relative to apparent adidas-agent complex programs, Rick's recruiters have been doing pretty well.

My point here is this: our staff has probably been doing among the best jobs of recruiting among the adidas-agent complex programs.

@JRyman said:

Tim Duncan wears Adidas, so does Derek Rose, Ricky Rubio, Joakim Noah, Austin Rivers, Serge Ibaka, Dwight Howard, Harrison Barnes to just name a few.

Along with Curry wearing Under Armor you also have Kemba Walker, Raymond Felton, Corey Brewer and Brandon Jennings.

These kinds of lists of players by brand that are not disaggregated for time of signing with the shoe brand, so as to account for the apparently changing dynamics of shoe brand relationships the last few years, versus those of prior times, seem not to tell us very much about where things are at right now, but they are nonetheless interesting and useful data points for disaggregation and analysis, so thanks for listing them.

@JRyman

Nothing about winning awards is ever simple, nor are awarding mechanisms structured exactly the same as mechanisms for staffing rosters, etc. How Oscars are awarded are not the same mechanism as how and which movies get made.

So, no, it would be naive to say that Curry won't win the award, because of the shoe brand he is affiliated with. I can imagine scenarios in which it might be a factor, however.

But I would have to study the shoe brand regime a great deal more than I have the time, recourses or desire to do, and then I would have to study the award mechanisms and their interplay with shoe brands before I would wish to hazard a forecast.

@VailHawk

It is not an either or situation. It is a mostly situation.

Think about a Harvard/Yale/Princeton graduate and a KU graduate applying for a job with an investment banking house on Wall Street.

Wall Street investment banking houses, investment managjers, or whatever they are calling themselves these days, is ultimately about making 2% on the largest deals that can possibly be put together. Whether the deals make the every day world better or worse is immaterial. Deals are done to make 2%. If they enable implementation of a global communications infrastructure, or a network of privatized concentrations camps where persons are tortured 24/7 to develop mind control technologies and then incinerated to cover the liability to the firm for crimes against humanity, alas, might make little difference based on the historical actions of investment banks, banks and so on in war time activities. For every ten investment bankers that will do the former deal, one will do the latter, because 2% of a big enough number means the deal gets done. There ought to be a law against it, but the fact is the private oligarchs that own controlling interests in the most dominant investment banking houses, or else animate those investment banking houses with preferential information, investment capital, and public and private access to deals, of course also invest sufficiently in elected and appointed government officials so as to see to that such laws are not passed. Capice?

But I digress. Let's carry on with the investment banking profession as an analogue for professional basketball players, before talking more specifically about professional basketball players.

Investment banks apparently seek three things in a hire and the rank importance varies with the candidate and the firm's needs at any given time.

  1. A fast, educated, socially adept brain literate in the latest trading technologies and with at least a thimble of insight about what is going on in the economy from their college education (note: these sorts of minds are always in oversupply for the number of jobs available).

  2. Existing access to new business, which is NEVER in oversupply, because demand for taking 2% of high buck IPOs is effectively inelastic.

  3. A workaholic streak.

Most KU graduates in the top 5% are equivalent on number 1.

Most KU graduates in the top 5% are deficient on the second count, and so are shunted to regional investment banking firms to start, where they can build up the business access needed by smiling, dialing and defiling, to move to the big firms, or help their regional firms go global.

Workaholics come from all walks of life, but kids out of the upper classes have FU money, and the kids from KU without the FU money tend not to have the new business access built in, so the firms tend to hire the Ivy leaguers, but every once in awhile, they take a risk on the KU grad, if he, or his family, bring something new to the table.

So: some of both get hired, but mostly its the Ivy leaguers, and after the trial period, the kid that learns fastest and brings the most new business, regardless of his pedigree, gets kept and the other gets flushed, unless he is a relative of someone in the firm or someone important about to join the administration in Washington, DC. Its a numbers game. All professions are numbers games despite their talk about marketing expertise. They are a numbers game marketing access to making things rain, with expertise being minimum ante to play.

The new hire that gets flushed once again tends to depend on his professional network to get access to being rehired. When he relies on this access, his independence is then neutered for the rest of his career. He knows he is not valuable in and of himself. He is only valuable in how he can be used by those in his professional network. This most accept, because they know how to do nothing else at this point, other than wait for an inheritance, which can be an iffy thing in a highly competitive upper class family of 3 to 5 seeking to gain through inheritance the standard of living and social status for themselves and their children that their parents achieved. Thus, these professional networks are the foundations of employment regimes in most employment sectors I have ever been exposed to. Some in them are robust professionals wielding their networking resources. Others are neutered professionals letting themselves be exploited for the greater good of those above them. This regime is in part why dominatrices can make such a good living on Wall Street. But I digress again.

The Ivy leaguer has the more extensive network, so he tends to get rehired more often.

Overall there is a bias toward the Ivy league network in the investment banking sector, even though the sector prides itself on the bottom line--doing big deals, often, for 2% off the top.

It does not matter that a few at the top are ruthless geniuses from anywhere, nor does it matter that a few from the bottom find marginal niches and hang on in clever ways.

The bulk of investment bankers in the processes of making their nest eggs are quite fungible in IQ and workaholism and minimal ethics department and are mainly distinguishable as dominants and eunuchs, rain makers and domestiques. They all dress quite similarly, but there are little tell tale signs of who is who.

The bulk of the investment banking culture hews toward this bias of its traditional professional network with occasional sharp infusions/integrations of new networks, when an Investment banking house commences operations in a new country, or business sector, or what have you.

Now, with this analog of the investment banking profession in hand, let us consider your assumption that the best players play in the NBA.

Professional basketball is a "profession." It's members are produced by "schools." The schools are segmented by "shoe brands." According to my hypothesis, these produce "professional networks" that are reinforcing to supply NBA teams that are also segmented at least partially by shoe brands.

Now keep in mind here that I am hypothesizing, and not asserting how things actually are. I don't know how they actually are. I am a fan. I have never worked for an NBA franchise in any capacity. I am just trying to outline what appears to me would be a probable logical professional network dynamic operating to some degree or another in the NBA. The NBA is very unusual in many ways and so not highly comparable to other professions in certain ways. It has a formal draft that investment banking lacks. You might say investment banking has an informal auction of slots to the applicant promising to give the biggest most profitable part of himself to the investment banking "league." Investment banking is very collusive and highly concentrated in ownership at the top of the business sector of investment banking--the NBA, if you will of investment banking. And so on. We can learn some things from the analogy and not others. Capice?

At any given time, there are sharply more NBA bodies with NBA skills than there are NBA job slots. There are a few elite NBA players, what are commonly called franchise players. Such players may come from any school, any shoe brand, any planet, or any universe. They may come from an elite basketball program or any old major or mid major. But the rest of the NBA job slots are staffed by highly fungible athletes, whose main differentiating characteristics are their varying salary loads to the teams and their professional networks. and their appeal to their franchise players. Contrary to popular belief, the NBA is a people business. Being able to play at competitive standard for the role available and possessing an NBA body is ante. Just ask Nick Collison. What decides who is on a roster, and who is not for non franchise player roles relates to which fungible player meets the franchise player's agenda. Each franchise player is not only a human being with subjective personal preferences, but a "professional" in a professional network with professional network preferences. He looks at fungible teammate through both lenses and filters whom he prefers accordingly. Same with management, but they pay much more attention to budgetary stuff, and to keeping round elbows regarding professional networks. Management has to think about not just this player, but the steady stream of players they will need. They need to think about keeping a good working relationship with the professional network that meets their needs most.

If the only way to adequately fill a non-franchise player slot on an NBA team dominated by Shoe Brand A were to be to hire a player from Shoe Brand B, then the player from Shoe Brand B would be hired. But he might well be the first to be traded/released and replaced to make room for a Shoe Brand A player subsequently. This is what I meant by this not being an either or situation, but rather a mostly situation.

Though I have no way of knowing this, it is also reasonable to hypothesize about the NBA that there are certain Nike dominated franchises, certain adidas dominated franchises, and certain franchises that have found a niche catering intentionally to a mix of both. By dominated, I do not mean that Nike runs the franchise. The owners run the franchise. I mean that the roster tends to be dominated by Nike players, and so the Nike player professional network's needs are part of the reconciliations going on in choices among players to be added and subtracted in pursuit of the best team the owner can put on the floor given his pocketbook.

Hypothetically speaking, Nike would likely favor the Nike dominated franchises, would it not?

Likewise, adidas would favor the adidas dominated franchises.

And Nike and adidas would look on the combo franchises as useful in managing the occasional excesses (slop factor) and shortfalls that occur in all demand and supply situations in the short term.

This sort of regime would essentially raise the entry costs of a competitor to Nike and adidas trying to enter the game and by default, give them a bit of a say in who they are willing to lower the entry costs for and who they are not.

For hypothetical example, the combo franchises might even absorb an occasional third shoe brand, say, one like Under Armour, should regime dynamics make adding a third oligopolist make sense, in order to discourage some monster outside player from trying to come in and throw its weight around in an effort at regime change from outside. It is called using a third minor member of the oligopoly to take up oxygen at the margin.

Now I could go on a great length about this, but I think this outlines that the NBA is not solely about the best player players. That is a lot of it. But their are things like professional networks, not just players unions, underlying who is in the opportunity set to even begin to be considered as playing the best.

At least that's my hypothesis.

Rock Chalk!

@Bosthawk

If you are from an adidas school trying to get into an NBA dominated by Nike player rosters and Nike coaches and increasing numbers of Nike front office leans, unless you are a can't miss lottery pick, get your degree.

An adidas player appears to have a smaller professional network to plug into in the pros. The adidas network APPEARS so weak in the NBA that even the great once in a decade Andrew Wiggins get dumped in Minnesota.

Most of KU's players appear to be struggling in the NBA, because they are in the wrong professional network to keep getting work.

Self: "We've got to call fouls." • Apr 09, 2015 12:22 PM

@Blown

Adding refs makes sense, but only if they were allowed to call it honestly and fairly.

There are also technology augmentations, but these require the will for a fair game.

The problem now appears to be systemic bias.

College basketball is spanning many cultures.

Some cultures are very tolerant of bias.

Bias is considered inevitable and so expected and tolerated. Bias is actually designed in to ensure the orthodoxy prevails.

Other cultures are intolerant of bias. Bias is considered inefficient and counter productive. Rules and enforcement are set up to encourage fair play, because fair play is believed to yield a willing compliance that produces desired outcomes most efficiently.

Each approach is pursued because it Is believed to best serve the values and interests of the leadership of each.

There are always three approaches at play in any conflicted situation: orthodoxy, protesting reform, and the opportunistic pragmatist playing both the orthodoxy and the protesting reformer off against each other.

The private oligarch in any situation is the one who exploits any or all three approaches expediently to pursue his agenda.

Whomever drives the NCAA car now appears very tolerant of bias.

There appears no will for a fair game.

@Crimsonorblue22

No, I hadn't seen that story. Amazing. This one will set some precedents.

Kelly Oubre: A Gambler? • Apr 09, 2015 04:50 AM

@truehawk93 said:

Funny quote - DALLAS -- The "horrible" state of college basketball is hurting the NBA, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban declared.

Classic.

Kelly Oubre: A Gambler? • Apr 09, 2015 04:49 AM

@REHawk

Exactly. My thinking is that when you are poor, getting a big check to help you get started in this world, is more important than risking injury for a huge check, especially when the scholies are for one year only.

I even think it would be good for the NCAA to make it so a player can jump and try to play professionally, then drop out and come back, if it doesn't work out, and play as an amateur, so long as he is under the age of, say, 25.

I would like to get these guys that flop like Josh Selby back in college, so they can use their athleticism to get themselves a degree.

I want players treated like other students.

If I want to quit school and work for a couple of years, there is nothing keeping me from coming back to school to get a degree. I have never understood the logic of a player playing for pay, and then not being virginal enough to go back and play as an amateur.

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard and made $54 Billion. Harvard would not keep him out, if he wanted to come back and finish his degree. They wouldn't say, no Bill, you have made too much money to keep learning at our school.

@wrwlumpy

I recall that Fred Koch was influential in the John Birch Society.

And I realize the Koch's are widely known as highly active American conservatives.

But I have never heard of them being allegedly tied to the Nazis.

Have I missed something?

For what its worth, I also recall that some Koch business advertises on the court side signs at Allen Field House, also.

Kelly Oubre: A Gambler? • Apr 09, 2015 01:34 AM

The more this goes on the more I am for the straight jump and freedom to jump any other time too, until college pays salaries.

The straight jump will take care of 90% of the problem. It won't be good for the kids, but it's time to stop trying to save people that don't want to be saved.

Self: "We've got to call fouls." • Apr 09, 2015 12:59 AM

@drgnslayr

Your post is of great importance and needs to be read by persons in authority of the game.

There are two threats to the game: physics and corruption.

We are losing ground on physics, as you point out well.

We have apparently lost on corruption.

The bitter part is that we could win both, if there were will to do so among those at the top.

Brad Stevens seems to have seen this coming and left. Donovan seems to have reached a similar conclusion and plans to leave.

The NBA is a tough place, but it does not appear to have fallen into the kind of corruption that rigs an entire playoff season just for ratings.

Self seems to have made his peace with it by trying to win conference titles that aren't rigged.

But with Shaka coming to Texas it seems likely that the dump trucks of OADs and biased officiating are sure to follow.

Nike will have at least one stack in each power five conference.

Any team outside the stack in the NCAA tourney will get "the last 10 minute no call treatment" and head shots and replay ignoring that UW got.

Big trouble in River City.

My recommendation is for the non stack schools to cut their spending, build up war chests for 4 years with the NCAA tourney monies, then bolt as a group into a new association with a new TV network and leave the five Nike stacks to themselves. This will work.

Cliff to Draft, But Whither Snacks? • Apr 08, 2015 04:17 PM

@KU-Flyer

Thanks for responding.

You are not alone in your questioning of the teaching abilities of our assistant coaches. I recall @drgnslayr and @ralster among others articulating similar positions.

I am not resolved on this yet, so everyone's takes interest me.

Here is a question for you that your post prompted in me. It is not argumentative. It is asking for some clarification.

On the one hand you describe a fascinating stint coaching women's industrial league basketball and the basics of basketball that can be taught AND learned, by most any teacher and most any player.

On the other hand you describe a KU team this past season lacking in these fundamentals and coaches apparently are not teaching these fundamentals to players that show up without out them, and suggest that a very tough, very aggressive coach needs to be added to the staff that can drill these fundamentals into our new and returning players.

What is it about Snacks, or Norm, or Kurtis, that prevents them from teaching these fundamentals that you describe alternately as things pretty much anyone can teach and learn, and also as things best suited to be taught by a task master?

Each of these guys recruits a lot, as does Self.

If they are too busy recruiting to coach, does that mean we need to hire an additional coach?

Do the NCAA rules permit doing so?

If the rules do not permit it, might they permit us to hire an agility coach, the same way we hire Hudy as a weight training coach, and we could have the agility coach focus on all of the physical fundamentals of movement and positioning, the way Hudy focuses on strength, body fat, weight redistribution, etc.?

As an aside, one of the things that surprises me about the relationships of D1 coaches today with their players is how much of their interaction off the floor seems to occur via text message, rather than face to face contact. I tech literate, but at the same time, I am old and so this perhaps strikes me as more unusual than it would younger board rats. Coaches, at least some coaches, ought to be physically accessible to players, it would seem to me. But I can see that they might no be if they are all out pounding the recruiting trail, or emailing and texting recruits from their offices endlessly. Maybe today's players are getting less connected to their coaches in face time, but more connected in virtual time and it is having a strange effect? I don't know.

Self: "We've got to call fouls." • Apr 08, 2015 12:41 PM

@drgnslayr

I could live with ball with rules you propose, or others, but not if they were asymmetrically applied the last 10 minutes.

The game has to be cleaned up AND a rationally fitting set of rules have to be written and enforced.

The game is no longer sufficiently safe, or fair, in operation to justify participation.

Self: "We've got to call fouls." • Apr 08, 2015 12:19 PM

@wissoxfan83

What appeared to happen to UW, KU and certain other teams in this tournament makes it appear that there is a systemic corruption in the tournament that needs to be investigated and remedied by appropriate, objective authority.

Until this investigation and satisfactory remedy occurs, I think it is time for university Chancellors to withdraw their teams from the NCAA tournament and stage an alternative tournament in the interim.

The NCAA seems unable to stage a safe, fair tournament, at this time.

@wrwlumpy

What do you think about this issue regarding the man that started adidas? I have thought some about it before. I am interested to read your take?

@wrwlumpy

This is a bunch of Ukrainean oxen dung.

The kid imploded.

I know he has a tremendous amount of potential. I was as high as anyone on him early.

But Svi has to prove he can stay in the rotation before I can speculate further about him just becoming a D1 starter.

A top 15 NBA draft choice?

End of next season?

How about get over a screen first?

Cliff to Draft, But Whither Snacks? • Apr 08, 2015 04:24 AM

@ralster

You are usually pretty conservative in these matters.

I have not made up my mind about Snacks. I have my moments, when I agree, but then I waffle because I think I do not yet know enough about Snacks yet.

What do you base your position on?

Self: "We've got to call fouls." • Apr 08, 2015 04:20 AM

"The biggest thing is, we’ve got to call fouls. It’s hard to call fouls when everybody fouls every possession. Somehow we’ve got to get some absolutes like handchecking up front. That will create situations we learn to defend in a way that allows more freedom of movement. When that occurs, I think the game will get better.”
--Bill Self

I am definitely down with this. I know a lot of board rats like a physical game, but it really is just nonstop fouling right now.

One litmus test for when the game has gotten rough again is MSU. Whenever the refs call fouls for a few seasons, or even just part of one, Izzo's thuggers recede from the Top Ten and his Madness runs are not deep.

Ratchet up the fouling and before you know it it is 2000 all over again.

Though I like Bo Ryan's version of Big Ten butcher ball much better that Ratso Izzo's, if you sit down courtside at a Badger game the volume of grunts and groans are much louder and more frequent than what you hear in most Big 12 games.

Ratchet up the fouling and you have muscle ball schools like UW and MSU in the Final Four with one draft choice a piece.

Back draft choice dump trucks upto the designated stack schools populating the Final Four and you get UK and Duke there also.

Cut back on the fouling this season and UW probably still makes it because of Frank Kaminsky and UW's good trey balling, but MSU would never get to the Finals. A UVa, UNC, or Louisville would. If KU had a front court, it would have joined that group.

The point is: as fouling is ratcheted down, the more finesse and explosively athletic teams move to the fore.

If I understand him correctly, Self is right to want to put an end to hand checking to enable more movement.

But doing these things will even more heavily favor the stack schools IMHO. The only way anyone stayed on the floor at all with Duke and UK this season was with constant fouling.

Regardless, it would probably be too impolitic of Self to discuss the two things that need fixing the most with officiating.

First, the refs appear to be corrupt and biasing games with no calls the last 10 minutes and then with actual bad calls the last 3 minutes as necessary. Since their biased calling seems to extend beyond just determining who wins, one is left with the appalling inference that spreads are being managed. This is appalling and has to be stopped, or we are just talking about staged basketball, not competitive basketball.

Second, cheap shotting needs to be eliminated. Cheap shotters need to be ejected from games and need to miss the next game, too. Cheap shotting is just ridiculously unnecessary in the game today. Replay can eliminate it entirely from the game once the corrupt refs are flushed from the game.