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JayHawkFanToo said:

@jaybate-1.0

Mangino was able to win with the same shoe contract, same stadium and football facilities that have been considerably improved since he left.

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Please think b4 u type, @JayHawkFanToo

Mangino’s approach has already been harshly rejected, so he can prove nothing you apparently speciously suggest. Because he failed and was rejected, Mange’s approach was/is therefore NOT an option by definition. We can’t know the real reasons for the rejection of Mangino’s brief, stunning success likely initiated in pre adidas days—only the official story, which rarely adequately explains controversial and conflicted events. Mange May have experienced dumb luck, or found an unfitting solution. We can’t be sure, because it was so fleeting. But we HAVE to infer the approach was not only unacceptable, but, based on his declining record, not sustainable either. You have to know this. My horse, who is NOT Trigger, stomped his hoof twice for no, when I asked if Mangino’s approach proved what you claimed.

My new mantra for @JayHawkFanToo this season is: think BEFORE you type.

I believe “you can do better.”

Rock Chalk!

Aye aye, captain!

Beatty for life!

How many times must KU leadership repeat the mistake of hiring a new football coach?

Why does any one think KU can hire a head football coach that can change things for the better better than a current coach can?

Who seriously thinks the problem is the coach and not the stadium, facilities and shoe contract?

@Crimsonorblue22

Yes, watch it ASAP.

It is a fine doc about an amazing human being. You will like him even more after it.

He and I were nearly the same age and I came to work in SF when he had come back after Julliard in NYC to do standup at the Holy City Zoo in SF. He was funny on stage and then funny after at Sam Wo’s restaurant in Chinatown, where I used to go with friends after partying. Robin and a Chinese waiter named Edsel Ford Fong used to try to out do each other with insults. Edsel was the Don Rickles of waiters. It was half way between performance art and madness!

@justanotherfan

One thing Vegas teaches: when the odds are stacked against suckers, suckers tend to lose.

@approxinfinity

LOL!!!

But what a beautiful Jersey and what a great Jayhawks!!!

@drgnslayr

It was real alright.

There was a scene in a Robin Williams’ Cold War movie, where he played a Russian that escaped USSR to America and even with new freedom and potential for prosperity he clung to his pain and misery he had known during his suffering under tyranny. His character said his pain was the only thing that was really his and so he loved it. It was quite poignant and I always thought it was probably how Robin truly felt about his real life too. Robin did many great things, because of his pain; then he killed himself, after some difficult health problems and a bout with alcohol addiction—long after having beaten coke in youth. KU must be careful about clinging to, and so restoring its suffering with Fizzou. It might do some great things from the restored pain, but it might kill itself, too.

KU could play the Big Top Raping and Murdering Prison Bodies in Leavenworth. (Note: I’m not against prisoners. But I’m glad they are paying the price. What I’m against is exploiting our team to exploit prisoners.)

KU could play the Little Top Officer Shooters All Stars in Leavenworth. (Note: again I’m not against prisoners. But I’m glad they are paying the price. What I’m against is exploiting our team to exploit prisoners.)

KU could play the Sons of the Sons of the Ku Klux Klan in the former slave state capital of Kansas. (Note: I’m not against innocent descendents of bad actors. I’m against exploiting our team to play Klan decendents that continue a rotten legacy .)

KU could play the Catholic Pedophile Priest All Stars hidden away in various remote parishes and monasteries. (Note: I’m not against Catholic priests. I’m against exploiting our team to play pedos.)

KU could play the ICE Family Separating All Stars on a court half in El Paso and half in Juarez. (Note: I’m not against ICE. I’m against exploiting our team and HUGELY against separating families.)

Or KU could just ask fans for donations for good causes and quit the ruse of using playing dubious opponents for the sake of fund raising as a half step to restarting commercial rivalries.

@Crimsonorblue22

It isn’t. But TPTB are trying to incrementalize us back into living hell for money. They are slow boiling the frog hoping we won’t hop out of the pot and do what’s best for KU.

What are the odds either school will receive an easier path to the Final Four than Duke, UK, UNC or Nova?

@HighEliteMajor

There is sports hate.

There is real hate.

In between is a thin red line much closer to real hate than sports hate.

It is born from bloody Kansas. It has shown itself in many human endeavors involving the two states.

One state—Kansas—is on the side of history.

The other state—Fizzourah—is on the wrong side.

Kansas, despite its people’s many human flaws, tries to think of what is best for all.

Ad astra per aspera.

Fizzourah thinks of what is best for Fizzourah.

Never underestimate this trait.

Never underestimate this hate.

Never under estimate how lucky Kansas is to be free of Fizzourah.

Never underestimate how lucky KU is to be free of Fizzou.

The rivalry is dead.

Let us mark it with a stone shaped like a cross driven down through the dead heart of a sleeping vampire.

And hold this golden opportunity close to our hearts and minds.

Rock Chalk!!

dylans said:

@mayjay "There isn’t another way to put it, I just hate those guys," he said. "I hate everything about Mizzou. There is a kid from Chicago that is going to Mizzou, I know him real well. I just told him I can’t support him. I just hate them, I hate everything about them. I hate going there, I hate them coming here. I feel like K-State was a rivalry, but it was more of a respected rivalry. I just don’t like (Mizzou).”

Sherron should be our next head coach!!

Any man that hates Fizzourah that much is KU Head Coach material!!!

Rock Chalk, Sherron!!!

mayjay said:

@jaybate-1.0 I took all my meds, thank you, but mine are not to prevent lunatic verbal assaults on entire groups of people just because they are of different color or political bent. If I rant, it is really still just the medicated me.

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No buts. 😀

@mayjay

Pharmacy calling @mayjay, your Rx is ready for pick up.

Ahem. Just emulation-kidding you.

Puhlease, can we get beyond the drug smearing of posters to some substance, or at least to some drug-smear-free misdirects?

Drug smears always make the board rat using the drug smear appear:

a.) clueless about the topic; or

b.) misdirecting during a shill-lighting shift; or

c.) suffering Peyronnie’s Syndrome and unwilling to man-up about it.

😀

Rock Chalk!

Rock Chalk again!!!

HighEliteMajor said:

@dylans For entertainment purposes only -

Kansas basketball coach Bill Self says he is “optimistic” that freshman forward Billy Preston will be able to play in games for KU during the upcoming Big 12 season.

Self said he is "very optimistic" Embiid can return to practice next week.

“But the one most pleasant surprises we've had so far has been Carlton Bragg”, Self said. “I feel confident that we have enough punch up front, but we just won't be very big if we don't have Cheick."

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PHOF

JayHawkFanToo said:

@HighEliteMajor

One thing we are overlooking is that Silvio did not want to go to Maryland, was not (allegedly) aware of what was going on and true to form he ended up at KU which was his preference all along. So, the apparent conspiracy would involve that University, Adidas and Silvio's guardian. The Cam Newton case ↗ set the precedent that if the athlete was not aware of what was going on he cannot be held liable.

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What makes you think anyone is overlooking it? I don’t see any signs of overlooking.

dylans said:

@jaybate-1-0 How about Western Kentucky’s fantastic recruiting run? Snags Coleby away from KU, nabs Mitchel Robinson, now Bassey. 🤔

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Anomalies logically beg for explanations of why they occur by those bearing costs asymmetrically.

I haven’t studied WK, but it appears to need research to find an explanation.

The need for explanations, combined with the capacity for explanations to make many persons reject the legitimacy of anomalous phenomena, is why TPTB spend so much to control the explanations by controlling courts and media.

TPTB want to be perceived as legitimate, so most will willingly comply with the biased outcomes TPTB enable that serve their agenda and interests.

It is much easier if we go along willingly (that is called “power”), than if they have to make us comply with “force.”

@KUSTEVE

Basketball is a game played on two half courts.

One half is offense.

One half is defense.

Fine offensive teams with modest defense lose, when they meet a team good on both ends.

Fine defensive teams with modest offense lose, when they meet a team good on both ends.

The objectives are to be as good on both ends as possible.

No team but Nova has ever fielded a rotation with six > 39 % 3pt shooters, including 2 starting postmen.

Many teams have been solid, or even super defensive teams.

Nova was so great, because it had unprecedented 3pt shooting coupled with exceptional defense, good rebounding, and exceptional team speed.

With only one or the other end covered, that Nova team would not have won a ring.

@HighEliteMajor

Self appears to have tried to have 6 trifectates that could out-defend, run the floor, out-rebound and dominate Carney opponents, especially from the Elite Eight on (note: same as he has tried to sign 6-10 OADs including at the 1 and 5 spots), but for some reason Self can’t and Jay can.

Think about it. Brannen and Carlton wouldn’t have made it into Nova’s Top 6 rotation, would they? Brannen couldn’t guard and Bragg was either too skinny to lock down Elite Eight grade bigs, so over-balasted with synthetic weight gain, that he could hang with regular season opponents much less Carney grade bigs!

Bottom line: not even Cal and K can sign six trifectates that can guard, rebound, run the floor AND shoot > 39% from trey.

Why can Jay do this, but no one else can, even when they try, like Self, at an elite school?

@justanotherfan and @drgnslayr

I am not doubting Jay’s basketball and coaching IQ. He is a good, experienced coach like those career .600 coaches I have mentioned above.

But recently, Wright appears a coach that has developed a scheme to fit a number of 3pt shooters (6 to be specific including two in the paint) that no one else can come close to matching, regardless of what rank of players they recruit.

Has any other coach signed 6 >39% trey shooters including 2 at postman?

Can either of you think of a single coach in D1 that would decline signing 4 trey shooters on the perimeter AND 2 in the paint? I can’t. Especially two bigs that can guard, rebound and run the floor as well, or better than, all the D1 bigs that can’t pot the triceratop!

Doesn’t this situation strike either of you as conspicuous AND odd? At least as odd as Cal’s 6-10 stack rosters?

@JayHawkFanToo

Do you really think that if Coach Self (adidas) decides to leave Nike schools would be interested in hiring him with while he stayed under contract with adidas?

“Whatta maroon!”—Bugs Bunny 😂

@JayHawkFanToo

Exactly. It’s like a Nike D-League. That’s why the Squeak IS great fit.

What?

U think a Nike school hires non Nike? How quaint?

@wrwlumpy

If the Titanic were sunk by an ice berg (a reputedly big if), would one of the new cruise ships sink an ice berg?

Fightsongwriter said:

@justanotherfan He said he will only play D1. Sitting. I wish we knew real reason he and Hunter Mickelson could never sniff the court.

Hypothesis:

Self and other coaches appear to win recruiting chits by giving scholarships and PT to players from the Power AAU Teams AND from the basketball factories, not to guys like Cunliffe and Mickelson apparently without those ties.

So, to continue the hypothesis: Self is probably trying to win a chit from some of these recruiting sources, so he cleared Cunliffe from his wake to sign a recruit from one of the preferred sources of recruits.

War is hell.

So is recruiting.

Cunliffe got caught in Self’s move away from the trey?

@justanotherfan

Logic (3 > 2) and success (Nova’s 2 rings in 3 years, plus KU’s Final Four appearance without trey balling and an inadequate big man rotation) suggest everyone ought to be chasing Wright, but few appear to be.

Look at Coach Self for just one example.

After a FF with trey ballers, he reloads with six bigs and not one probably with a >39% trey, even though Jay Wright won it all with TWO such bigs. Self has emulated ring winners’ innovations in the past. Why not now?

Not one of our new perimeter guys has a high probability of being a > 40% trey shooter, unless one holds his trey attempts way down.

Self lost severeral > 39%ers on the perimeter and did not replace what he lost, much less increase his allotment of trifectates. And his recruiting gave no indication he was striving for six trifectates.

Next case: Cal at UK and Konsonants at Duke, who appear to get some where close to their picks (e.g., Cal reputedly got the 1, 2 and 3 ranked players this year) from the Nike-lean trough, did not even appear to try to load up with 6 > 39% trey shooters. They did not appear to try to sign two > 39% starting bigs. Why not?

3 > 2

Trey shooting bigs pull even the best defensive bigs away from the iron.

This is not rocket science.

Konsonants won one ring with a trey balling team back when Jay Wright was still a .600 career coach.

Konsonants knows how to do it, but he appears not to be scaling up his trifectation consistent with Jay, especially inside.

Only Jay Wright seems smart enough to master the obvious and scale up his number of trey shooters, especially inside and even more amazingly only Jay Wright seems smart enough to find 4 of 6 > 39% trey shooters from 75-100 rank players that can miraculously guard and rebound against teams loaded with 1-75 rank players to the point of crushing them.

I get it. Anyone with half a brain gets it. Recruit 6 > 39% trifectates, including two in the post, and shoot +10 3ptas. Get all but two of them from 75-100 rank players, and win a ring!

In some ways, it is eerily similar to when ONLY Cal was smart enough to have first 6 OAD/TADs, and then 10.

Only Cal was “smart enough” to sign 10 OAD/TADs. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Are D1 coaches really this intellectually challenged?

It’s truly fascinating to watch unfold...AGAIN.

PHOF

Shaka Smart sucks. He is a solid .668 for his career but a mediocre .500 at Texas even with tons of Swoosh bait.

Squeaky Weber is .610 at Cow Pie State and and.651 overall. It grinds me to admit it, but the guy can coach and deserves a shot at Texas with its Swoosh-Juiced rosters.

Shaka needs more time at a mid major.

@drgnslayr

What changed Jay Wright from a career .600 coach for 15 seasons, to the best coach in the game the last three seasons?

Has such a transformation ever occurred before?

To put it in perspective, it would be like Lon Kruger (.610), Cuonzo Martin (.606) , or Fran Dunphy (.639), suddenly winning 2 rings in 3 years and turning into the best coach in the game with less high ranked talent than K, Cal, and Roy.

How did this happen?

@drgnslayr

Nova is arguably the bigger threat.

So long as TPTB allow a team to amass supposedly “lower ranked” talent that can beat the BeJesus out of higher ranked talent, who cares about UK, Duke and KU, right?

I mean, I would much rather have Nova’s roster last season, than ANY 9-10 OAD/TAD stack of recent years.

“Lesser talent” like Nova’s is the ONLY talent worth having!!!!!

Power to the “lesser talent”!!!!

“We’re through the looking glass here, people. Black is white and white is black.”
—Jim Garrison, in JFK

@dylans

Is Philly Cheese Steak on the menu in honor of Nova?

A Texas-Kansas oligarchy applied its wealth to the politics of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio. Now an older, larger oligarchy is applying its wealth to Kansas. All politics in an oligarchy is application of wealth for increased spatial influence over infrastructure—existing, or planned.

Send the adidas guys to Sac when possible.

If I were Nike, I’d like a 100% adidas roster in suckramento.

@approxinfinity

That is a very insightful explanation.

Thanks for sharing it.

@jayballer73

It’s pretty basic strategy. The Deep State reputedly does it all the time, when the legal apparatus in a state has been convulsed, or high jacked.

Do the shit.

Say the clean opponent does the shit.

Use controlled media to echo chamber.

Do more shit.

Say the clean opponent did that shit, too.

Use controlled media to echo chamber.

Keep doing the shit.

Keep repeating the clean opponent did the shit.

Keep echo chambering with controlled media.

Pretty soon audience believes both sides do the shit even though they don’t.

The question is why don’t people LEARN this is what is going on?

@KUSTEVE

Kentucky alway$ luck$ out.

Cal know$ the right thing$ to $ay to recruit$.

KUSTEVE said:

@jaybate-1.0 It's phenomenal that none of the very top picks take a penny from Dook or Tucky, but all these lower rated guys seem to take money. Yeah, that makes sense.

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PHOF

a) another decade?

b.) until Kentucky signs with adidas?

c.) until a few seasons before the next FBI-DOJ investigation AND entirely coincidental Rice Commission?

kjayhawks said:

The investigation will never stop, the hypocrisy of politics these days insane. I wish people would just find better things to do with there time than go and on about politics. Trump is the president whether you like it or not I’d be surprised if anything is done to change that before the next elections. It’s the same with Clinton’s emails, the investigation will probably never stop.

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You just went on about politics!

Why do aliases go on about politics trying to discourage other aliases from going on about politics? I have never understood this contradiction.

Can you explain why you just went on about politics trying tso discourage others from going on about politics?

Also, isn’t this the politics and world affairs section? Wouldn’t it be absurd to discuss something else in this section?

Rock Chalk!

approxinfinity said:

Why do we even need the FBI when we have a strong politically oriented DOJ?

PHOF

For Comic Effect!!! 😀

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Who was KU’s best Post WWII AD?

Al Bohl?

Lewie “The Perk”?

Wade Stinson?

Sheahon Zenger?

Bob Frederick?

Monte Johnson?

X?

(Note: All Fiction. No malice.)

ADs and KU just seem not to mix.

Might KU be bettee off without an AD?

(Note: All Fiction. No malice.)

Who might KU be able to sign for AD, if the black cloud goes away?

(Note: All Fiction. No malice.)

Dateline: Friday the Thirteenth 2018—Let’s repeat that: No Indication ANY American Helped Hack the 2016 Election. 😂

Deep State = 🤥

Pathetic.

Just pathetic.

No more Fed Notes for the Deep State.

Give the Fed Notes to KU BASKETBALL, so KU can sign the 1st, 2rd, and 3rd ranked players like UK did.

Rock Chalk!!!

@Kcmatt7

It sometimes appears no petroshoeco has the money to compete at current spending levels, unless the big three investment managers go to the untraceable Presidential Plunge Protection Team’s Fed Window; then even John Alden Shoes might!!! 😀

Just sayin’.

@dylans

I’m not following your argument even a little.

Do u really not recall UK’s 6 OAD/TAD team of 2012? Or it’s 8-9-10 OAD/TAD teams after?

“Only” 3 OADs ranked 1, 2, 3 seems quite a come down from 6-10 OAD/TADs regardless of their rank.

And that 2012 UK team with “only” 6 OAD/TADs included three screaming studs at 1, 3 and 5!!!!

dylans said:

@jaybate-1.0 4 of the top ten and 1,2,3 is a pretty salty class. Kentucky is experiencing an off year, but it’s still a good year by anyone else’s standards.

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OMG YES!

TPTB JUST APPEAR TO KEEP FINDING NEW WAYS TO STACK THE DECK TO MAKE IT NOT LOOK SO UNSIGHTLY.

But gain....

3<10

@dylans

Yes, but 3 guys hardly equal 9-10, right?

@justanotherfan

Terrific survey of the recent dynamics. Thx. Am makes a lot of sense.

Now, I want you to take a cut at another related circumstance, if you would be so kind.

The dynamics you delineated point to a procession toward deconcentration of OADs.

The current degree of deconcentration seems remarkably similar to what it was before concentration manifested and culminated 9-10 OAD concentrations at a few Nike schools (Duke, UK), along with 2-3 concentrations at a few adidas schools.

Much of college basketball history has been marked broadly dispersed (deconcentrationed) top talent.

UCLA had a run of top talent in the 1960s that many attribute to Sam Gilbert simply out bidding for the top talent.

UNC had a monster run of talent in the 1970s to 1980s that coincided with Dean and Roy having a strikingly close relationship with Sonny Vacarro and Nike.

Out side of these two extended concentrations, since then top talent has not clumped so asymmetrically, for extended periods except at UK and Duke.

What dynamics triggered talent to clump so asymmetrically at Duke and UK? Since Cal got to UK, Duke and UK have really been loaded. Even there “down” years they tend to have awesome levels of the kinds of talent (OAD/5-stars at 1 and 5 that other programs, like KU, just can’t match.

Are Duke and UK using a Gilbert like Wooden? Or a favorable shoeco relationship like Dean and Roy in the old days at UNC?

Or are Duke and UK just the first schools to asymmetrically dominate recruiting for an extended period the old fashioned way by melting mothers hearts?

How were they able to get and hold their edge in top talent at the 1 and 5 and attain generally better depth than other elite programs, and then rather suddenly lose their edge to deconcentration?

What were the dynamics of concentration that seemed to coincide, though perhaps only coincidentally, with an apparently escalating competition between Nike and adidas, that then manifested in deconcentration, again perhaps only coincidentally, as adidas’ bid to take market share from Nike appeared to falter?