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JayHawkFanToo said:
@jaybate-1-0 gets internet brownie points every time he uses highfalutin words such as asymmetric or a variation thereof and hence his constant use of that and a couple of other words. I get the same points whenever I use thereof and hence...🤑👍
What this web site needs is more gaslighting and spear phishing!!!!
HOWLING!!!
I have been trying to be more self doubting and to put myself out there for more discrediting to be a mensch.
In this hollowed out economy, I want to help folks that might need to moonlight.
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Regardless, let us both rejoice on this day of Comey's Senate testimony that we are both symmetrically grateful we are NOT agents of a reputed Deep State and so NOT tasked with the reputed Deep State's restoration efforts in USA and UK. Having a Deep State and a Shallow (?) state is too much complexity for me, to say nothing of it seeming possibly unconstitutional. I liked the old days when we just had a State. God only knows what must really be going on in Washington right now!
Rock Chalk!
Thanks for the ID clarification. No disrespect intended. I didn't have that problem of needing to create a second ID for some reason. Maybe you can ask @approxinfinity to clear that other alias to minimize such future mistaken salutations.
Regardless, I still don't understand your indicated multi year struggle with my use of "asymmetric" vs. your apparent grasp of the meaning of "asymmetric."
You appear to indicate an abiding difficulty in understanding my use of "asymmetric" over a period of years, but you do not indicate an abiding difficulty with the meaning of "asymmetric" over the same period of time.
I'm not sure what to make of that.
The question was why an asymmetric cuing effect?
So: how would these ensuing events you suggest, like 9/11, etc., in some conjunction with the declining number of US military survivors, trigger apparent asymmetric cuing by MSM of WWII memory of a current population largely not alive during WWII?
I still don't follow this logic.
@mayjay and @justanothfan
Why do the number of US military survivors remaining cause this apparently significant, asymmetric cuing by MSM regarding some major, even decisive, WWII events versus others?
I don't follow this logic.
I wasn't alive for anything that happened in WWII. Neither were either of you, apparently. Likely few in the official state, or in the reputed Deep State, or the MSM that unrefuted leaks apparently indicate a reputed Deep State significantly influences, were adults alive during WWII.
So: why would apparent asymmetry in MSM reinforcement of mass memory of WWII events be triggered by the number of survivors of the events? I would have guessed it would have triggered symmetrical failure to cue mass memory.
What am I missing?
Thx for the link.
Thx to Fox!!!
Maybe I just didn't surf enough.
And hope you had some fun playing your computer game. My recollection is the ought six Springfield was the manual bolt action standard of US Forces in WWI, and was used some in WWII, but the semi auto M1 Garand was the standard issue ASAP. I recall also that the Springfield was considered a highly accurate rifle at considerable distances and used by snipers in WWII. My father said he qualified as a marksman during his Marine Corps training before WWII actually started with a Springfield and commented it shot arrow straight at 600 yards without need for a scope and with standard issue loads. He was a good shot though. I haven't played that game you refer to, so I don't know if it is designed to highly reward that sort of accuracy, or not. I also recall him saying that as an officer he always carried a standard issue M1 Carbine, which he found light and useful in close quarters. But he was emphatic that in a combat situation he and any Marine he knew would seek out the first BAR they could find, not an M1 Rifle, or Carbine. No one wanted to carry a BAR, he said, because they were heavy and their carriers were targeted by Japanese soldiers in ambushes and sniper fire. But he said everyone looked for a BAR once the shooting started.
Regarding such major events, it appears the Deep State decides and then effects through its MSM what we are to remember culturally and what is to recede in our cultural memory.
We are apparently supposed to remember the Jewish Holocaust and the vicious Nazis. I do, even though I wasn't born then. I hate the Nazis and feel bad for the Jews. Currently, I am not sure to what degree I am to remember the Gypsies and Catholics, and anti-Nazis that were mass murdered and/or worked to death by the Nazis. But I do. I can't help myself. I don't feel I get much media cuing about these other folks, but I'll be damned if I don't remember them. Maybe its because one side of my family was Catholics from Prague and the Nazis never treated Czechs very well. Regardless, I feel bad for them, too.
We are supposed to remember the JFK assassination. Interestingly, our media--MSM and alternate media--tell us to hold in our head two mutually exclusive explanations. No one remembers Oswald did it alone. Everyone remembers Oswald did it alone and there was a conspiracy. This is what our government told us. He did it alone. There was a conspiracy.
It is intriguingly similar with MLK, whom we are to remember each year was shot by a lone gunman, James Earl Ray, and by a conspiracy. But we are not supposed to remember that the King family won a verdict a Civil Court that King was NOT killed by a lone gunman, but rather killed by a conspiracy. Peculiar at least.
Its increasingly similar with Pearl Harbor. We are supposed to remember that Admiral Kimmel and the Army General did not receive intelligence of exactly when the Japanese fleet was ready to attack, plus we are supposed to remember that that intelligence existed in American and British intelligence intercepts and had reached many hands, but not President Roosevelt's hands, and that British Intelligence, which reputedly knew the intelligence, and reputedly operated an extensive spy ring in USA that reputedly reported often to FDR, did not withhold it from FDR and other Americans in hopes of a successful attack propelling USA into WWII. Remember both.
Its kind of like the more inconvenient facts float about the more Americans are supposed to remember complicated, often contradictory explanations, rather than actually figuring out what the hell happened, whereas when things are simple and lacking inconvenient facts, Americans are either supposed to remember, or forget major events, depending on some kind of strategic expedience for the Deep State.
Put another way, it seems it is preferred that we remember mutually conflicting versions of history, where there are inconvenient facts floating around.
But often, when those inconvenient facts can be marginalized, or never revealed, a single, simple forgetting is enabled, or marginalized, via controlled mass media.
And it appears unequivocal, at least for now, after the last disgraceful year and a half, if we ever doubted so before, that a Deep State appears completely and tightly in control of messages put out by the MSM.
Note: I strongly suspect that we will very shortly begin to be enabled to remember this last year and a half spectacle of naked controlled intervention of the Deep State into the MSM in at least two, or maybe even more, contradictory ways, in keeping with other major historical events where there are an abundance of inconvenient facts.
I currently both remember when the Deep State was not admitted to exist and when it became commonly talked about. It appears this is how it wants to be thought of and remembered right now, while it tries to shape shift and recede back into the shadows a bit more.
We are apparently not supposed to remember the Philippine holocaust 1900-1908, the Armenian holocaust of WWI, the East Timor holocaust of the 1970s, or the Cambodian holocaust shortly after Vietnam.
It varies from holocaust to holocaust.
It even varies how we are to remember what we are engineered to remember.
First we were not to remember the Native American mass murder as a holocaust at all.
Now we are to remember it as a Trail of Tears, even though that was a tiny part of the near genocide of native Americans.
I was blessed with a good, but hardly perfect, memory for much of my life. The ascent of blatant mind control by the Deep State has been unsatisfactory to me because of it. I don't forget a lot of the things I am apparently supposed to forget, or remember in the engineered way I am apparently supposed to remember them. It creates more than a little cognitive dissonance. Fortunately, as I age, I sense that my memory has become less accurate and so I can be more satisfied with the antic mind control aimed all our ways.
Here's a funny, as in puzzling, example that I am, alas, not yet demented enough to forget, or placidly accept.
We are to remember that we are responsible for imperiling our climate. But how we are to remember the climate peril we cause changes. Note: I have no wish to get into the scientific debate of anthropomorphic climate dynamics. Science changes and I know too much about quantitative analysis to try to unsnag the vast body of research and modeling assumptions and methodological flaws without being paid. I am just talking about how MSM pedals it all to us.
First we were causing global cooling, then we were causing global warming, then we were causing global climate change, now I am beginning to be told to remember we are causing global climate. Its at least vexing.
In the age of XTReme mind control and mass media controlled by a six player media producer oligopoly following orders of the Deep State, what we remember apparently has less and less to do with whether we were alive to experience it, or not.
I was alive to experience Trump win the electoral college but not the popular vote, and Bernie Sanders to win California but have it taken away from him.
Soon I may be told to remember that Trump did not win either, and that Sanders did not win California.
It is clear to me that I am supposed to both remember and forget the Congressional report on US Torture under Dubya Bush that was authorized investigated under Obama, because I read somewhere that the few copies of it that reputedly exist are reputedly being hurriedly collected apparently to be withheld from public memory.
Cultural memory seems increasingly subject to strategic expedience of the Deep State's needs and the mind control capabilities of its MSM.
But who can remember for sure. I can't. :-)
Where is Charlie Weis now?
And is he going to donate that fat, undeserved buy out back to KUAD, when he gets old?
KU has not had any quarterbacks since Reesing.
Did anyone see an anchor on CBSNBCABCCNNFOXMSNBC remark during their evening news broadcasts on D-Day on this most recent June 6th?
Thanks for dredging up what seemed absent. It was not absent, that is good. But I was not alone in perceiving that it was not apparently not reflected on as pervasively as in the past. For what its worth, I don't think the number of living vets should matter. The remembrance is as much national, as individual. There are no Civil War survivors left, but we do not forget to commemorate it. There are certain events in human history that should outlive in collective memory (and in commemoration) the generations that lived them.
(Author's note: this is not about basketball.)
I am in my 60s and I cannot recall a previous June 6th, when at least some mention of the anniversary of the Allied invasion of Normandy, France, on June 6, 1944 was not mentioned.
Has the New World Order's Deep State decided D-Day is to be cast down the Memory Hole? What is the probability that most of the MSM outlets failed to mention D-Day, June 6, 1944?
We are reminded of Adolph Hitler, Nazism, and the Holocaust frequently throughout the year, but the largest amphibious assault in human history--the landing of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Normandy, France that led eventually to the liberation of several of the Nazi death camps, to say nothing of ending the Nazi tyranny--is now not even a footnote?
Orwell would feel right at home.
Hey NBC,
Worry less about KU's strength of schedule and more about the chronic fake news you have reputedly been vending.
Well, it's at least nuanced. Thanks for elaborating.
I want to believe you about no hypothetical embargo and PT being the problem.
Explain again why Duke, UK and UNC do not appear to be constrained by PT and do not appear to suffer these sorts of recruiting classes?
If it's just a matter of them having more turnover and there were no hypothetical embargo, then all Self would have to do would be to start signing the same share of the same kinds of players generating the same turnover and same PT availability as theirs do, and we're out of the problem of these sorts of classes, right?
Hmmm.
It seems we are back to why won't the same quality of players with the same rate of turnover allowing the same kinds of PT and so allowing the same kinds of recruiting classes to sign with apparently one of the best coaches with the best winning percentage the last ten seasons?
Would Self sign 5 OADS each season, if he just had enough PT to offer, or does he not have enough PT to offer, because a hypothetical embargo prevents him from signing 5 OADs and so has only a little amount of PT?
Again, I want to believe there is no hypothetical embargo.
The Big Three from Detroit once built the best affordable cars, because market constraints permitted it.
Then the "value engineering" started.
Chrysler Cordobas with Corinthian leather and ugly bumpers instead of overhead cams and redesigned bodies to gracefully integrate new bumpers.
American cars stopped trying to be the best affordable cars.
They were engineered to lose the least money in market retreat, while the hollowing out occurred.
KU appears to be being value engineered to win conferences instead of rings and max out at Elite Eights.
Tulsa with an OAD or two.
A national championship only by backing into one by pure luck.
Value engineering.
I'm not being critical of Self. I believe he is making the best of a bad situation. He is making near silk from ear of asymmetric sow.
Retreat is necessary when advance is not possible and holding means total destruction.
Winston Churchill retreated for several years.
Self would probably fill the rosters with top freshmen, if he could, same as Cal--if the apparent embargo did not appear to obstruct that.
Winston didn't just keep retreating though. While back pedaling, he maneuvered USA into the war on his side, so he could go back on the offensive. KU needs to maneuver a new ally. Self's tactical brilliance is not a long term alternative to the need for a new grand strategy.
Just calling it what it all appears to be.
The naysayers shout: but we are ranked Number 2 next season!
Pre season rankings are worth about as much as an OAD with too much baggage to be signed by Duke, UNC, or U.K. They apparently signify hype, eyeball and bet balancing management, and possibility, not probability. Signing a comparable share of the best players seems the only way out of value engineered basketball.
Self appears to be bridging and amazingly successfully.
But the other side of the River Shoe still appears out of sight.
Agreed.
Stick to guns
KU recruiting appears at the low point of the Self era.
When transfers are the core of your recruiting class you're in bailing wire mode.
Not being able to recruit incoming freshman indicates how the apparent recruiting embargo is hollowing out KU BASKETBALL's long term foundation.
Self's formula is increasingly to add an OAD to a Tulsa team with good shooters, shoot the Trey 15-25 times per game, and rotate a big project in the paint for some muscle.
Mozart is conducting the Tulsa Philharmonic and adding a virtuoso or two from Vienna each concert season. Only Mozart could make it sound so good, but he still should be playing with an orchestra full of virtuosos from Vienna.
Alas, I remember the loss in the 1968 Orange Bowl and Jojo's disallowed shot more than the good times. It is something I would truly like to change about myself!!!!!
Playing only 20 mpg halves wear and tear from games and lowers injury risk.
If I had to play for no pay and avoid injury for two years, and I were a sure OAD in the former system, I would only consider playing for a 10 stack program.
If I were Cal, I might event offer to redshirt the three best OAD CUM TAD frosh and give them the year off to "study abroad" to eliminate injury risk and practice wear and tear. Then they start with 3 new TAD the next season and 2 redshirt.
6-7 TADs would be enough for a ring, especially with the three best given a year of extra maturity with no wear and tear.
I do not doubt your insider info.
But I have watched Self appear to renege on enough of these insider info deals in order to make a team win the most it can that I am hopeful he can break down Malik and his Dad and yet again create the best "team" possible.
Sometimes Self appears to get cornered by players and their parents, but not often. He's apparently a wily devil, when it comes to putting on the squeeze to get the scheme and rotation he wants. And I don't think being wily as a coach is a bad thing. It seems like a virtue. Fans often seem to underestimate how much a coach can apparently covertly jerk players and parents to get what a coach apparently wants.
Coaches appear to do this often over a career.
Players and parents are either matching wits with him for the one and only time in their lives, or maybe the second time, if they had another son that was previously a top prospect..
To some extent, it's not a fair fight, IMHO, thus in forecasting I tend to side with Self finding a way to get his way.
Similarly, if Self makes his preference for a player in a role known, I bet that's how it often goes.
If Self has decided Malik were a better fit than Vick and Svi, then Malik would be the guy long term; that would be my guess.
But Vick is a helluva player IMHO and Self has appeared to tend to recognize great players regardless of hype coming in.
He apparently knew Diallo was a piece, not a great player from the start. Same with Cliff and Bragg and so on.
Any coach that could appear to outmaneuver Carl and Xavier Henry into Brady giving the glue, gun and defense 20 mpg, can probably maneuver Malik and dad this season.
I could be all wrong about Vick and Svi being better than Malik this season and the team being better with Malik off the bench as a 6th man for 30mpg. But if Self were to see it as I do, rest assured, I have confidence he could and would try to make it happen.
Again, Self appears a VERY HARD man.
But a good and decent coach, IMHO.
I believe you are on the right track with a tradeoff calculus. Here is how I hypothesize the phenomenon you refer to.
It appears some coaches with some brands and agents that draw well in certain viewer/bettor markets experience a kind of preferred access to top talent. If true, it would probably only take a handful of such coaches to soak up so much of that sort of talent that can win rings as freshman that it would make sense for other coaches that "could" recruit such talent to become so discouraged by the low probability of signing such talent that they simply adopt a Plan B talent suboptimization strategy, where they focus on lesser talent full time, and expect only anomalies of Plan A talent to show up rarely. Until I see evidence other than exceptions that suggest a rule, my hypothesis remains.
Regarding Beilin, in particular, he appears a fit to my hypothesis (and your trade off calculus) and be supported for the time being by U of Michigan leadership, which appears to have learned from its Fab Five scandal not to jeopardize its football cash cow by taking too much risk in the murky asymmetries of basketball recruiting.
Rock Chalk!
"You misunderstand me."
Time is money.
Double the time players are exposed to amateur constraint Ex NCAA director Walter Byers said in paraphrase was a phony contrivance to lower overhead for universities and you've got greater damages more worth litigating.
As arguable damages rise, temptation to litigate appears to rise.
This at least doubles OADs/agents forgone revenues and raises risk by spiking injury risk.
Plus two full years of not going to class will make a joke of academics, thus further exposing amateurism as a dodge.
Lots of money and fame too be made by lawyers freeing players on this.
Players and agents likely already hated OAD.
This will make them double their loathing.
It fixes nothing and makes many things worse.
Otherwise no big deal.
Free the players.
It's easy to see this team become a great team, if it avoids injury, Doke can be more than a load, Preston copes with D1 violence, and 3 guys (Devonte, Vick and Svi) have career years.
It's Devonte's team, but it's Vick's dream that counts most.
Vick can become a great player this season, if he can stay out of jail. Vick is about to Super Nova, if Self gives him the touches and Vick dreams clear and clean.
Svi will be very good.And he is the only shooter that can bang a little too, so he plays.
Most think Newman will start. I think Newman will get his minutes backing the Big Three up, which will likely add up to 30 mpg, unless Garrett steals 10 backing up Devonte. If Vick falters, Newman joins the Big Three.
Inside is two big question marks: Doke and Preston. Can Doke heal and learn the game in time to become the true 5 stud he could be? Can Preston find the motor and toughness to go along with his fabulous physical gifts? Can a Bill &Mary guy beat out Baby Faced Mitch or vice versa to join Sam cunliffe in giving fouls behind Doke and Preston?
The suspense is killing me.
Well, on reflection, there is one slight downside for KU.
Nike/Wes/Cal will have 10 stacks again...every season.
But adidas Self could have 2-4 stacks with the TAD.
Agree, but...
Don't see how this will survive US Supreme Court challenge unless USSC Ducks it, because of Gorsuch majority.
I call bull biscuits on Cal!!!
All coaches recruit and sign the best guys they can!!!!
That is obviousness mastering.
Cal appears to sign the best guys Nike and Wes can bring him access to.
Watch how many lesser guys Cal signs, if Cal fires Wes and Cal and U.K. sign with Keds!
Never read such a disinformation stack of bull biscuits outside politics.
What is it a link to?
You apparently misunderstood me.
It doesn't matter what they call the position then or now. It only matters how they play the positions and how big and athletic and skilled they are.
Cowens and Russell ran the floor and cowens especially moved outside on offense to shoot high post Js, when confronted with true 5s that we're athletic. Russell lacked a long J and was a great jumper, so he tried to work inside with footwork and pass out against the big centers. This is what the short centers aka 4s playing 5 do today when they confront true 5s.
The percentage of true 5s in the 60s and 70s was quite small. It's quite small now.
Regarding Mitch....
He can play some.He has fundamentals down.
KU grad and HOF Coach Ralph Miller always said he could take any 6-8 guy in a mall and teach him enough to make him at least a useful back up, if he couldn't recruit enough experienced players.
How much Mitch plays depends on what adidas can drag in and what complementary abilities they require.
You have asserted this logic before.
I respect your steadfastness.
Briefly, I thought it might be a credible indicator of something.
But...then a hole in your fritter emerged suggesting more of a doughnut 🍩 .
How many good true 5s have played at any given time? Answer: not many.
That number of 5 you suggest might be close to a long term average.
To wit: how many play is largely a product of how many are available at any given time and, while that fluctuates some, the ones that are known about play without an exception I am recall.
I don't recall a single great true 5 ever to ride the bench, so a team could play small ball instead, do you? Maybe situationally, on a fouled up, off day, some Wilt, or Tim Duncan, or Nate Thurmond, or Olajuwan sat some, but mostly he was ridden as far as he could take a team.
I kind of doubt Steve Kerr would turn down starting Olajuwan, in order to pick up more small bigs, so GS could stay small, do you?
Thus there seems no structural change in the way the game is played; this much history makes me feel confident of.
The trey line probably reduces how many marginal, project 5s are tried, and how many so-so 5s are built around, since Trey balling can sometimes out perform an untalented 5, but...
Any time a solidly athletic and skilled 5, like, Tim Duncan, comes along, he is immediately drafted and played. And even those without many skills, but good athleticism, like Joel Embid, are drafted early and tried. And if healthy, they play.
It has always been more or less this way, hasn't it?
There have never been nearly enough good 5s for all college teams, or for all pro teams, to play a down the middle game all the back.
But that did not mean they were not prized. It meant they were for periods of time not in existence.
The game is NOT turning away from great 5s at all. It's just looking for new ways to play small, when you can't get one; this it has always done, right? Good 4s have always been substituted as 5s, instead when a good 5 could not be had.
In many regards, Bill Russell was a physically gifted 4 that played at the 5 to make room for other 4 that could not play the 5. So was Dave Cowens. There have never been enough legit 5s to fill out all teams in any league.
Wooden started a 6-5 3 at 5 when he couldn't even sign a good 4 to play 5 one season.
During KU's run of great centers most other schools played without a good footer, much less a great one like Clyde, Wilt, or good ones like B H Born. And many of those that had footers had projects. Thinking Nick Pino here.
During Wilt's NBA career often less than half the teams, some years probably less, could field a mildly comparable center. 6-9 Willis Reed and 7-0 Mel Counts both had the skill and physical attributes of today's 4s.
Even with Bill Russell, at 6-9, Red knew he had to keep running to win against the franchises that would eventually sign Wilt.
Really, the number and frequency of good true 5s may not be diminishing at all. It may even be tending to increase, if anything, because of scouring the world for giants. Remember, there weren't any footers at all until George Mikan, or the guy at OSU.
PROBABLY, we've just hit another stretch like the great Boston Celtic years, especially pre Wilt, when team's have found a new way to win without a true 5. Then it was a running game. Now it is a trey game. But I expect if Wilt, or Tim Duncan, etc. we're available for Golden State to draft, at their time to draft, they would take him in a quantum qubit.
Good points.
Add: Whether developmental bigs get there, or not, depends more on what Self recruits in the interim, than on how the developmental guys develop.
If you play 4, the adidas conveyor tends to deliver some one good enough to turn developmental guys to sub 10 minute bench jockies, or "willing" transfers. Even if it's a 2, or a 3, playing out of position at the 4.
But if you play 5, and no Nike program implodes during your KU eligibility, throwing off legit 5s Self can pick up as sloppy seconds, then you've got a chance for the Landen Lucas Experience. Not if not.
The recruit on the right guaranties 4-1 survives.
Is Self even taking K thru 8 transfers now?
Sun Tzubate 1.0: College basketball is not like a nation state, where one must keep creating enemies to sustain pork for a military industrial complex. In college basketball, the shoe, TV and tournament revenues continue with, or without, enemies.
Sun Tzubate 1.0: Wanting to renew the rivalry with an old enemy is akin to a moment of crazed weakness, during a romantic drought, when one considers having sex with a promiscuous ex-wife that one knows has contracted an incurable STD.
Maybe easy classes aren't the draw they once were?
Eh, Jeff, she ceases being a secret weapon, when you tell everyone.
I would support reconnecting with Fizzouri on two conditions:
a.) after a Nuremberg Sports Crimes trial has fully investigated and handed down just verdicts on Fizzouri; and
b.) chemtrails have successfully saturated us all with sufficient conductive particles that the Deep State is now in total control of our volition and what happens no longer matters.
Thanks for weighing in.
I read somewhere that KU was started by abolitionists and then the Federal Land Grant Act for colleges came along and the state legislature was a mix of abolitionists and non-abolitionists that could not agree to support KU as the state's land grant college. So: KSU became the state's land grant college. If anyone knows something to the contrary, I would like to know.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@jaybate-1.0 Worldwide Wes has his agent's license now. He can't do what he used to do for Cal as long as he is a certified NBA agent.
I wonder what the chances are that WWW became a "certified" NBA agent, so that he could do MORE?!
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I'm not doubting they hate on him NOW.
I'm doubting they will hate on him when he is hanging Ws and championships for THEM.