Love your epigram!
jaybate 1.0
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Nice work. I look forward to more.
I've strayed too far into politics this season to keep close track of the other D1 teams to add much.
Seen UCLA 4 times on the tube cause wife is a UCLAN and agreed with you at first, but this Lonzo Ball is much better than I first thought. Ucla is like KU has been at times in the pass. Alford, like Self, understands the game deeply, and plays some geeks that don't look like big time players, but that can do certain things well. UCLA is still tall at the end. Alford's pint size kid seems the weakest link, but he keeps getting it done. UCLA isn't a super team, but in a season of top 10 teams all with missing pieces, they seem in the mix.
Maybe all the teams are pretenders this season, but one will win?
Rock Chalk!
Re: Frank--Could be looking at a future head coach.
Thx for pictures of the old home place.
Dear Huggs,
I have grumbled at how rough you played the game, but your character, love for the game and love for your school have been inspirational since you brought yourself back to the game at KSU. Love yourself as much as you love the game, Bob. Take care of yourself and get that weight down. You are a one of a kind, legend of the game--the only great bear of a man left in college ball. We need you.
Best regards,
jaybate 1.0
Howling!!
Sign Board Forehead Marshall would be a great fit for LSU, but the Kochs seem pretty committed to the Shocks. Not sure anyone could pay him enough to get him away from Chita State. Heck, the Kochs may be thinking of creating a new cabinet level Secretary--the Secretary of Petro-Sports. There seems to be a need for a cabinet level sports secretary. Our country will increasingly need a global and national sports policy and maybe even a doctrine, or two, now that sports shoes and apparel are huge consumers of petroleum and likely to grow exponentially greater in petro-consumption. I mean, we've got an Exxon-friendly president. Shouldn't POTUS Trump establish a strategic petroleum reserve for sports, too? We can hardly afford to run out of shoes and silks for our jocks competing in sports that literally drive one of the biggest enterprises on the planet--sports gaming. Sports and sports apparel and petroleum refinement for sports apparel and sports gaming are four of the few sectors we still dominate in the global economy. Who knows? Marshall may be being groomed for first Secretary of Sports. War as usual is the biggest bidness with the Pentagon and the Rothschild's Crown of Great Britain dominating global force structures and nukes for now. And high tech/finance (Gates, Brinn, Bezos, Ellison) vs. energy/real estate/gaming (Mercer and Adelson) could really use a fourth sector to keep them all balanced. There's a triad right now. But why not spin petro-sports/petro apparel/gaming into a fourth cornerstone of the grand illusion of global order? Quaternities are sometimes thought unstable, but they have an enduring elegance about them that the triangular and pentagonal orders have always lacked. Anything is possible in this crazy world right now, it appears. :bowtie:
But back to LSU. It appears LSU has never really committed to the game with the round ball; perhaps that's why .600 Johnny endures, despite the 1-13. With .600 Johnny as their basketball coach, perhaps they feel they have met their equal employment opportunity obligations and feel free to hire whomever they want for football? Or maybe .600 Johnny with the remnants of an apparent medium stack is a great coach just having a little tough luck? Or maybe LSU is just a very dysfunctionally presided-over (chancelled?) university and athletic department that can't make a good football, or basketball, hire independent of "the racial." Whatever, it will be interesting to keep an eye on.
Sometimes its best not to get any stack at all.
Last season .600 Johnny got an apparent stack, but did little with it.
This season?
Ouch.
No apparent stack and 1-13.
Scott Drew continues to find new ways to be stupid.
Vick has earned the start on his good days, but Self seems to base starting on two factors.
First, which player is better on each player's worst day? I suspect Svi has a higher down side.
Second, which player can sub the most places? Vick seems to be able to sub more slots 1 through 4 comfortably than Svi.
Each time I see Dwight Coleby in cryo-ice at the end of the bench, I think of Hunter.
Coleby has caught Hunter Michelson Syndrome.
This is a very mysterious condition in which a reserve sits that could give the team more than a player playing ahed of him gives the team.
Players afflicted with Hunter Michelson Syndrome typically experience Cryogenic Freezing.
Graham "nicked up."
Going to be interesting watching him shoot the trey and dribble with that mitt.
I wonder if a bone is sticking out through the flesh under the tape?
imagine what Bill could have done with all of the big men that Scott drew has waisted !
Okay, everyone, I'm going to peel down and shower off in some hot water before I infarct.
Have a great rest of your day all!!!!
God that banner was funny.
Maybe KU should make a real one and hang it up in Allen Field House for every KSU game.
Oh, that is music to my ears. I was hoping Self was going to amp them for this one.
Does Scott Drew deserve the KU game ball? Did he do anything unusally stupid?
only 2? AMAZING!!!!!
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Now you will have to sit in parking lot the rest of our season.
Put my eyes out!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank god, but how did they overcome the 25% trey balling?
Absol-flipping-lutely serious.
It was like the basketball gods had finally actually decided to test my commitment to the my Jaybirds.
It was like a freaking movie from Stanley Kubrick!!!!
Redrum!!!!
But I'll tell ya what....if this was what it took to get a W in Waco to buy this team the insurance against injury that it needs down the home stretch, I would gladly go through it all again!!!!!!!!
Rock Chalk Jayhawk GO KU!!!!!!!
I'm getting tooooooooooooo.....old......for.....this......shit!!!!!!!!!!
...in a grocery store parking lot, killed my cell phone and left me stranded waiting for a tow in a torrential downpour that never came, so I missed the most unbelievable win of a season full of unbelievable wins?
I am soaking wet in front of my flipping computer, because I tried to run home in the rain, but am too flipping old to make it, and instead got picked up by the road side service, returned to the car, jumpstarted the car, and got home just seconds after the game ended and I am reading over the box score and watching what few feeds I can find, because I can't get logged into my arch nemesis CBS to watch a replay of KU beating Failor with two Landen Lucas free throws at the end of a 67-65 victory by KU that appears literally statistically impossible to have occurred based on the box score and game stats. To wit:
FG% KU 41.8% BU 42.9%
FT% KU 80% BU 81.8%
3pt% KU 25% BU 44.4%
REBs KU 27 BU 35
PFs KU 13 BU 18
How could this HAPPEN???????
Did KU's sixth man, Scott Drew, cause his team to shoot to few treys and foul us too much? Was it that simple?
How did Self and Company figure out a way to win making only 25% on 20 treys, while getting out rebounded +8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!! OMG!!!!! OMG!!!!!!
Did Pompeo and General Kellogg conduct a coup during the night and take over the Deep State from the Obama in Exile gubmint and turn the entire Deep State apparatus against Failor for 40 minutes before dismantling it for ever?
Has Trump restored the republic, when it seemed his political goose had been cooked by the Flynn fiasco?
Did Putin and Assange get together and dump something on Failor onto Wikileaks?
Was the game played in a parallel universe called WacoPrime?
What gives here?
How did Self do it?
How did the most insanely brilliant coach of his generation do it?
Did Self play junk zone the entire game, or press every possession?
Neither Mitch Lightfoot, nor Dwight Coleby are mentioned as getting ANY PT at all.
Vick had 6 rebounds!!! Did Vick play post, when Lucas took a blow?
Help me, help me, help me, I think I'm going INSANE...with....JOY!!!!!!!
Was Malik given a Mission Impossible latex mask to look like someone and did he play?
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN??????????
(Note: almost forgot--all fiction and kidding around regarding our noble fellow Kansans Pompeo, Kellogg and our President and the goofy news swirling these days. No malice either. Rock Chalk Washington DC Jayhawks!)
Bill Self is a genius and he coaches like a genius and he wins like a genius.
Anyone that would give ANYONE else COY than Self this season has to either have been to an EST Deep State secret torture prison and been depatterned and repatterned as a mind controlled informant of the Eastern Standard Time Zone Oligarchy, or...
Been accidentally zapped in the head by a HAARP beam bounced off the ionosphere being used to engineer the climate and roast terrorists and enemies of the Deep State.
There is no other possible explanation. :neckbeard:
They do try to win every game.
Part of the way they do it is to modulate their emotional intensities and minutes played to fit the opponents in each 2 game in 3 days set they play. They try to have their peak performance against the toughest opponent, and they try to rest their best players as much as is useful against the weaker opponent.
"Josh wont go into a shell like Ellis did when we needed him the most. I always said Frank needed help(!), and he finally gets it in Josh."
Perspicacious as always!!!!!
Frank, Devonte and Josh are the best 3 man perimeter in the country, and add Svi and they are probably the best 4-man perimeter. Vick works for a back up.
Landen is actually a good fit for them inside.
The missing piece is a big back up for Lucas, since Doke went out.
Fortunately Josh, to my total amazement, is now a better garbage man 4, when needed, than Marcus Morris was his freshman season, maybe than his sophomore season too. Not many comment on it, but Josh has kind of Revived Brandon Rush's old role in college basketball: THE STRETCH THREE!
Only Josh plays some 2, 3, and 4 almost every game, rather than here and there as Brandon did.
This 3 position thing is quite extraordinary. And he has even played some center and point briefly a time or two over the season; this is something I have never seen before. It is how Self is getting away with a seven man rotation. Every time Self needs help at a position, any position, he seems to ask: would I rather have Josh do it, or another player...and he picks Josh. Knowing how much Self distrusts young players, it's amazing to see a freshman breaking this new ground. It's getting to the point that if Norm, Kurtis, or Snacks has a cold, I expect Self to tell Josh to put on a suit and tie, whenever Josh is taking a blow on the bench. AMAZING!!!!!!
Frank is like marrying an engineer.
You live in a good house, drive a sensible car, get to splurge once in awhile and get something predictable in the bedroom you can count on.
Tyshawn was like living with an artist.
Live in a loft. No boring routines. Lotsa wine and cheese and candles at 2am in the center circle!
Frank finishes for sure. The bridge is solid. The passage to fulfillment predictable.
But Tyshawn on the right night....the right season...oooh la-la!!!...he takes you to a moveable feast in gay Pareee. Ecstasies without predictability until the lack of predictability is part of the ecstasy .
The way for Frank to distinguish himself from Tyshawn is to take this team just one game farther than Quantum T did.
Frank the Engineer would then make me let go of the wild affair I had with the speed artist known as Quantum T that took me all the way to the Finals one wild and crazy season, after nearly driving me nuts the other three.
And Frank the Engineer could do it, because no one has a 6 OAD stack that finally tripped up THE ARTIST!
Otherwise, I am certain, Frank would have to win a ring just to tie him!!!!
Oooooh la-la!!!
@HighEliteMajor distilled the strategic big picture, but I'm with @KUSTEVE that Self gambles and amps for a W today versus Failor.
Why?
There is a little known Selfian Rule:
THE THINNER YOUR TEAM THE SOONER YOU TRY TO WIN THE TITLE.
If Self had depth on his side, the smart move would be to view this exactly as HEM explained it.
But he has so little depth, and likely already has guys playing through the ragged edge of under-reported, that he can't risk waiting for wins.
Win now while you still have 7 guys.
Getting a win over Baylor today sharply reduces the risk of any injuries down the road keeping KU from a title.
With any starter injured, KU would have to struggle mightily to win enough games after a loss to Failor.
Who would you rather try to steal a win from?
Scott Drew, when you've got seven cards, or any of the other B12 coaches. when you may only have six, or five?
Win today to buy injury insurance for the rest of the season.
Amp'em up, coach!
You know, it could be that this team will prove much more extraordinary than they now appear. They have not had their cuts at immortality yet. If they win a ring, i will view them differently.
Champion is the ultimate criterion in my book.
P.S.: IMHO, no argument is unimpeachable with twisting and distortion of premises and facts and logic. The thing that is great about logic is that even after being twisted and distorted, one simply restates it without the twists and distortions and it just is once again either valid, or not. It just does either explain things or it doesn't.
Logic is a female dog to someone like you, and even to me on some occasion.
Its a fascinating thing that human's, with such extraordinary logical capacity, so often bridle at logic.
It hurts a little watching you struggle with this.
Its like watching a woman in child birth.
Alas, I can't do a C-section for you on this.
You are going to have to labor through it yourself.
I can be here and tell you to breath though.
Its so easy once you have dilated your mind enough to allow the logic to operate.
Contractions are painful though..
Accepting logic is one of the hardest things for persons, when the logic contradicts their belief.
It is especially hard when they "think" their belief is not a belief, but reasoning.
This goes to the very heart of why there is so much lying. As the trendy saying these days goes: it is easier to fool a person that convince a person that they have been fooled. I would add to that epigram that it is doubly difficult when a person has fooled him/her self.
Such a person tends to resort to the same kind of cranky, frustrated rhetoric that you appear to have used here.
But I'm cool with apparently cranky, frustrated rhetoric.
To riff on Ghandi, who said the truth is the truth, I say: the logic is the logic.
Here is the thing, all you have to do to refute the logic is find a coach and team in women's basketball that has also won 100 games, while his/her career overlapped with Auriemma's. Its so obvious. That at least appears to be why you find it so annoying. It is obvious, yet you cannot do it. Grrrrrrr.
So: you are apparently stuck with the logic that contradicts your apparent belief that you apparently fooled yourself into believing, and in turn you appear to resort to cranky, frustrated rhetoric instead of doing the easy, prudent thing and saying, of course, @jaybate 1.0, I see the logic and that's that.
I often wonder after having these sorts of discussions if the real issue didn't hinge on Board Rat A wanting to be right rather than wanting to get at the crucial insight, versus me who doesn't care about being right, but rather is most interested in learning the crucial insight. If you had had the logic on your side, well, I would have been delighted and adopted your logic and thanked you for sharing it with me. But for some reason, some folks don't like to do that.
But the important thing is KU is very near a record number of conference titles and so may be one day you will explain that to me with sound logic and I will get a chance to show you how appreciative I can be.
Rock Chalk!
Easy: no one ever won 100 straight when both were coaching and there is no one that is equal to Summitt coaching today.
Many drivers could feed into why this logic operates.
But it is not necessary to itemize these drivers to see that the logic holds and is sound.
But I will give you one possible example and would only ask you to remember that there are likely MANY drivers causing the logic to operate.
When Pat Summitt and Gene Auriemma were both coaching, they were splitting most of the best talent. As a result, Summitt did not actually have to stop Auriemma from winning 1o0 straight by beating him in a game. All she had to do was sign a lot of great players, and dilute the talent level that Auriemma had, and Auriemma, or Summit, for that matter, might have been able to win 90, but not 100.
With Summit retired, and no equal in her stead, and with Auriemma having developed even further recruiting influence because of his on going success, Auriemma gets a larger share of the very best players with the very best physical and psychological qualities required, to win 100 in a row, instead of only 90.
But there are probably many, many, many other drivers feeding into it. Multifactorial, as they say in math class.
Here is another one: with Summit gone, Auriemma becomes essentially the only super coach left in the sport, as Wooden became, when so many coaches like Phog Allen, Adolph Rupp, Henry Iba, and Pete Newell, Fred Taylor, and many many other great coaches began to retire and eventually leave Wooden as the ranking elder statesman of coaching by the mid 1960s. Wooden and his Bruins went from being just one of many good teams to gaining the mystique of being invincible, when all the other recognized great coaches had stepped aside and the new guys like Smith had not yet fully established themselves. In short, Summitt left the game and turned a binary star system in to a unitary one and Auriemma quickly took on the mystique of being MORE invincible than he was when Summitt was still their as a countervailing force. So: Auriemma eventually went on a tear in winning 100 straight games that he never did when Summitt was there.
Hey, here is another possibility! Maybe the women's game has in recent years seen a rise in refereeing asymmetry that favors the top coaches the EST. Maybe that is what has allowed Auriemma and his lady UConn women to jump from90 to 100 straight wins.
Whoa! Here is another possibility. What if the number of games played per season has increased from back in the era when Summitt and Auriemma coached at the same time. Maybe there are just literally more games each season, and so, if you've got a great team, other things equal, you just win more games sooner.
And so on.
Its a major, major accomplishment in sports, even when they had only broken the prior streak by a game. Now that they have broken it by ten or so, it is bigger. And the longer it goes the bigger it gets.
But it is clearly the players that are doing it and it is clearly the players that are the decisive variable in doing it. Coach Auriemma, great as he is, has had a ton of 2.5 season blocks of time as opportunities to win a 100 straight and hasn't done it before, and said he doubts it will happen again.
These streaks are always a freakish convergence of extraordinary players coached by great coaches that could not do the same thing with any other players.
I love analyzing coaches and ranking coaches and think coaches are an indispensable factor in the success of any team in any sport.
But players remain the decisive factor.
These UConn women on the last 2.5 years of UConn teams are just more extraordinary and exceptional in the way they play together than any other UConn team, and any other non-UConn team.
The contributing factor is the coaching.
And Auriemma has done this without a Pat Summitt as a competitor standing in the way sooner or later in the season.
That doesn't diminish it.
It just recognizes the fact and conditions the accomplishment.
No, you're having a great difficulty with letting go. You are confusing letting go of illogic with giving up. Never giving up is an admirable trait, but should never be confused with refusing to let go of illogic.
You can do this.
Agreed, with letting go of the topic, as long as I get the last word in letting go of it.
Your struggle with letting go of the illogical cannot be indulged by giving you the last word, or by you giving me the last word.
You will have to let go of the illogical on your own before you get to dictate to me any terms of the end of the discussion.
If you try to say we have to keep going, without letting go of the illogic, I will say we should stop.
If you try to say we have to stop, without letting go of the illogic, I will say we should continue.
Like Mr. Ghandi, I refuse to cooperate with illogic. :smiley:
Otherwise, I enjoy you very much and look forward as always to your posts.
If I recall correctly, @drgnslayr always thought (and I concurred) that EJ already had a chronic shoulder injury during his soph season, or maybe early his junior season, that never really healed correctly and so never permitted him to be the outside shooter that he seemed destined to become. And my recollection is also that he and Travis were playing through some significant leg injuries that limited both their remarkable athleticism even their junior seasons. So: even though I have been arguing that Devonte is "playing through" something nasty this season (and so seeing his explosiveness and productivity fall off from last season), my aricepted memory tells me that Devonte has been more productive offensively his current junior season, than EJ was his junior season.
We are both big boosters of EJ's actual contributions to making all those big winners he played on, despite never having lived up to his sizable hype, except for one game against ISU, but at this stage of their careers, Devonte seems decisively the better player and bigger contributor up to their junior seasons, cumulatively and in on-going performance trajectory, when compared. And comparison is particularly oranges and oranges, and will continue to be, because Devonte and EJ were mostly 2 guards through their junior seasons, and then EJ did become the PG, and Devonte likely will, too, the senior seasons.
Devonte just is someone I underrated his first season and until I saw him go on a tear his second season. Devonte is a case of a guy who is just much more than the sum of his abilities and skills. He has that rarest of rare gifts of being able to blow a game wide open, when it is a very, very BIG game. He has done it enough times now, even this last time against WVU, when he had to protect whatever underreported injury he labors with for 35 minutes before going off like a Sidewinder Missile.
To give Devonte his full due, I don't recall another KU perimeter player that was EVER able to blow big games wide open, or drive come from behind miracles, as frequently as Devonte. Something happens to the guy OFTEN at these moments. We saw it once in EJ's career. We see it time and again with Devonte. Even Frank Mason, who can and does take control of games rather in a studfied, almost engineer-like way, does not shift into the kind of hyper-space level of play that Devonte goes to at certain points of big games. Doing what Devonte does in lesser games, or in no pressure situations, really wouldn't be a big deal at all. There have been endless KU players that have massive performances in meaningless brand-builder games, or when the opponent is never a serious threat to win the game. Devonte is like George Brett was in baseball. The guy comes up HUGE so many times that even the most skeptical QA types have to start talking about some sub atomic particle being involved in how frequently he does what he does.
It appears Self has always prided himself on being able to coax super performances out of certain players. Self coaxes and waits and cajoles and baits and plays them out of position, and forces them out of what they were when they came, and then waits and waits and waits for the guy to explode for a super performance hopefully at a time when the team really needs it. EJ is the quintessential example, but almost all of KU's long term starters sooner or later have one of the Self-coaxed super games.
But with Devonte, Self seems to have stumbled into a guy that actually somehow routinized this coaxing toward one hyper peak performance in a career into a bizarre pattern of recurring, intermittent behavior.
Devonte doesn't do it every time, same as George Brett did not come up with game winning hits EVERY time. But Devonte comes up with these freakishly good stretches of performance much more often than most players, same as George Brett came up with clutch hits more frequently than most high average hitters did.
This peak performance thing at peak moments was called "at your best when you need your best" and "competitive greatness" by Wooden, and he placed it as one of the highest blocks of his pyramid of success. This meant two things to me. First, it showed that Wooden valued this attribute just about the most highly of any attribute that a player could have. Second, it suggested that Wooden believe it was either something that could be taught, or at least enabled, by calling attention to it, and place it as something to build toward. The latter is what is most important. What most forget about Wooden that waste their goddamned time rationalizizing away Wooden's monumental accomplishments with Sam Gilbert's cash recruiting (note: something all programs used to do at the time and that Wooden only permitted after 15-20 years of competing without doing what all the other top programs were doing). was the incredible number of SUPER performances by UCLA players--both from the greats that went on to the pros and the not so greats that did not. No other coach has EVER gotten so many peak performances out of so many players at critical moments before, or since, as Wooden got from UCLA players. Wooden apparently learned how to trigger, or enable these great performances. Self is pretty good at it. He gets a one or two every season, but except for 2008, Self has struggled with enabling these mind blowing peak performances during March Madness. Wooden won ten rings in 11 years, not because he had the best players for 10 years (he only had the best players for some of those years). He won those ten because his teams almost routinely produced peak performances in the tournament; THAT WAS THE KEY!!!!!!!
MAKING PLAYS! PEAK PERFORMANCES!!!!! THAT WAS WHY UCLA NOT ONLY WON WHEN THEY HAD THE BETTER MATERIAL, BUT WHY THEY WON WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE BETTER MATERIAL. IT WAS ALSO WHY THEY BEAT OTHER GREAT TEAMS SO OFTEN. UCLA HAD THE PEAK PERFORMANCES AND THE OTHER GREAT TEAM HAD AN OFF GAME.
Self needs to put Devonte Graham under a microscope.
Self needs to study Devonte closely and figure out what if anything Self is doing to enable those peak performances of Devonte's.
And then he needs to begin to find ways to do the same for his other players.
THIS WAS WHAT WOODEN MEANT, WHEN HE SAID ONCE WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO WIN A TOURNAMENT, WE GOT PRETTY GOOD AT IT.
TRIGGER PEAK PERFORMANCES IN BIG GAMES AND WATCH THE BANNERS ACCUMULATE.
SELF IS STILL YOUNG ENOUGH TO DO THIS.
DEVONTE IS POINTING THE WAY.
ROCK CHALK!!!!
What a great idea, but...
That old devil time's arrow would probably erode the comparison for some.
The 2012 team is older now; that could be argued to help them (NBA and pro experience), or hurt them (older and more worn out).
I'm afraid time's arrow moving only forward would raise as many arguments as it resolved.
But maybe someday, if science masters time travel, we can get the boys together for a game and settle this once and for all. :-)
Seriously?
Are you still struggling with this logic?
Either you are devaluing Auriemma's accomplishment of 100 with Summit's 90, or you're not?
Either Summit, or Auriemma won 100 straight, while both were coaching, or they didn't?
Which is it?
Think!!!
This is not as complicated as Trump trying to subordinate the JCS and the alphabet agencies and restore constitutional function to the republic in the face of Deep State opposition.
Resolve the disconnects.
Then get back to me.
I'm trying to understand your argument.
Tyshawn was mercurial and an artist. Not perfectly consistent. Capable of huge ups and downs until his last season. His last season is what I'm talking about. And Tyshawn was trying to make a six man team work.
That being said...
I recall TT as a terrific defensive guard by his last season. and good enough to start from freshman season, because of his D. Re: RR--RR never had to carry the team as a scorer and defender of top opposing guards, as Chalmers, then Sherron and TT did. I doubt RR was never the trifectate TT was TT's last season.
One more thing. TT did not have a running mate as good as Chalmers or Devonte, so as big as I am on Frank, I can't say Frank can claim to carry as much load as Tyshawn did his senior season. And Frank has at least gotten to work with 7-8 guys this season and TT was pretty much stuck with six.
Well, you got yourself into a real logical pickle.
If you argue that Summit's 90 was equivalent to Auriemma's 100, then Auriemma's 100 has effectively already been done and recently and so isn't that unprecedented and extraordinary. And that implies records signify little, or nothing.
Is that really what you want to hang your Beany on?
Logic is a female dog sometimes, isn't it?
I think 100 is a record and quite a bit--say 10 straight wins more than 90.
But even if it were "only" 91-90, I reckon my logic would hold, and you would still be brining pickles!!!
I'm really eager to read how you're going to sarcasm font your way out of this.
Continue.
Uh no.
90 < 100.
Howling!
Again, did Summit or Auriemma win 100 straight games, while both were coaching at the same time?
Yes, or no?
I'm waiting.
I think you are right about the interpretation, but there have been plenty of debates about Wooden and Knight and Rat Face under this heading, so I'm cool with it staying here. I'm also okay with moving it.
Just watched it on the big screen.
Regarding Tyshawn and EJ vs. Frank and Devonte, a lot would depend on the refereeing. Tyshawn and EJ were rangy, leapers yet very physically strong. Under the 2012 rules, they could probably manhandle Frank and Devonte. Under today's rules, I would expect Frank and Devonte to out quick EJ, and out trifectate both.
With TRob and Withey behind them, and under the old rules, Ty and EJ could use their height and massively overplay Frank and Devonte outside and greatly reduced their trey ball accuracy. When Frank and Devonte drove past them, which they could do, it would get very difficult for either to score a short trey on TRob, and they would never get a short trey on Withey. But in today's rules, TRob would probably foul out, or have to lay waaaaaay off, so they would attack him to avoid Withey.
One thing persons forget about Tyshawn is that under today's rules he might be completely unstoppable. He finally developed a respectable trey for much of his final season, and he just was too fast for words. Remember, Tyshawn was blowing down lanes, when it was practically legal to grab and punch him on the way. And even then Tyshawn was so fast and strong no one could stop him from getting to iron.
But imagine Tyshawn under today's rules. He would be sick. He could almost get a short trey EVERY time he touched the ball on the perimeter.
Really, I think Tyshawn would have averaged 25-30 ppg under today's rules.
et al,
What does anyone expect out of a school that plays in a sod octagon?
Better they chant F@#$% KU, than stress their sheep.
I want to preface what I am about to write with: I think Coach Auriemma is a great, great coach--one of the best ever. I wanted that up front, because my following observation about this accomplishment of winning 100 straight games could be taken to suggest I think otherwise.
Now to my point.
Is it a coincidence that this happened AFTER Pat Summit retired due to Alzheimers?
Put another way, who thinks this would have happened, if Pat Summit had been coaching at her peak the last couple years?
I would bet the farm against it.
Can anyone name even two other probable future hall of fame coaches of the caliber of Auriemma and Summit in the women's game coaching right now?
I can't, but I don't follow the woman's game closely at all.
Winning 100 games is a fabulous accomplishment. It is a monster feat of sustained excellence and concentration by both players and coach.
Still, IMHO, the UConn players foremost deserve the kudos.
The UConn coach also deserves kudos, but...
The coaching aspect has to be weighed in conjunction with his competition.
He didn't do it, when Summit was coaching.
By the same token, Summit didn't do it, when he was coaching.
My guess is that if he had been the one to get Alzheimers and retire, Pat Summit would now be winning 100 straight games.
These two coaches were/are head and shoulders above other coaches in women's basketball. It happens sometimes. Auriemma is now alone being head and shoulders above other coaches in women's basketball. It happens sometimes.
So: frankly, I think, this is a much bigger "player" accomplishment than coaching accomplishment.
If Summit could have done it, had Auriemma retired, then the true and decisive greatness in the accomplishment rests with the players, somewhat less with the coach.
This group of women hoopers that Coach Auriemma has must be just a flipping phenomenal group of players--in physical abilities, skills and mental toughness. It takes a will of steel not to have an off game in 100 games--to find a way to win 100 straight times. It is mind boggling. This group of young women has pioneered a new threshold of team. My hat is off to them and to their great coach.
Rock Chalk UConn Women and Coach Auremia.
P.S.: As one fan out in the wilderness, I want to personally thank Coach Auriemma for what he has done for the greatest game ever invented by dedicating his life to bringing it to women and so to all of basketball. Thanks, Coach.
Is Bruce Weber the interim HC, or the interim interim HC?