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@drgnslayr Guy Lewis should be enshrined in the hall of shame for that one. I don't know how big their lead was, but they went away from the offense that gave them a sizable lead, not quite a four corners as I recall, but a much more deliberate attack and the lead disappeared.

@jaybate-1-0 The '86 team defeated Never Nervous Pervis and Louisville twice that season. The actually lost to Duke in the regular season, one of several losses on that juggernaut. That was back when teams didn't worry about RPI, SOS and all that and just went out and built a schedule that was the best guarantee of playing well in March.

Their schedule that season besides Duke and Louisville twice included Pepperdine (no slouch back then), Washington, NCState, Kentucky, Arkansas, George Washington (no slouch back then either), Wichita St., Memphis St (whom they lost to), Detroit, SMU, and a few other cupcakes. That's 11 non-conference games against decent to really good teams. Three of those were true road games also. (We played 2 true road game this year in our Non Con at Stanford and at Nebraska.) No wonder that team contended for championships year in and year out! In fact our first home game that season was December 3! We'd played four neutral site games before during that more compact schedule.

The best part of that season for me was deciding to go to KU, an Illinois sports fan of Depaul, U of I, Loyola, whomever, who really had no clue as to the rich heritage of KU basketball. I was on a geography field trip outside of Lawrence. We're getting into the 15 passenger van with those double doors that closed together. I pulled the door shut and accidentally slammed someones hand in the door. I hear someone say I hope that's not your shooting hand. I looked at this skinny Caucasion kid and sized him up as maybe someone on the golf team. So I asked him. He said he's Scooter Barry. It didn't ring a bell until he said his dad was Rick Barry whom I'd watched play. His hand wasn't hurt, and we had a nice conversation as he filled me in about what a special place KU was.

Us fans back then were sensible in that we didn't camp out for a week for seats at a game, so we'd get there about 2 hours early and then rush in and get seats right behind the goal on the north end. Terrific seats, that came within about 10 feet of the court. That was my view for 3 years I was on campus. Amazing!

Hate this • Mar 22, 2018 11:39 AM

I don't know why, but my computer isn't showing what I'm assuming is a billboard around Lawrence. What's it say?

@tis4tim The first known appearance of the Duke whistle 1986. Awful awful game. That team of ours was so great. Really one of the two NC's gifted to coach K, the other being in 2015.

@truehawk93 To each his own, but the Zona loss was probably the worst. We'd lost once all year. Powerhouse of powerhouses. Might have been known as one of histories great teams. I hated the Syracuse loss too of course.

@mayjay Don't think I did blame SI. I did mention Clemson was mad at them.

I love final fours. We are blessed beyond all measure. We have as a program made 14 in the modern era of NCAA basketball. Since I came to town in 85, we've made it 8 times. Those 8 appearances alone would make us tied for 7th on the most FF's.

  1. I consider this one of the great teams in our history. I didn't realize we were a 2 seed. That is outrageous, but I also remember an early slump where we were 3-3 on the season with a loss to Ball St. Maybe that contributed to it, not sure.

This is a strange season in my mind. I don't have that great feeling about our team like the last 2 seasons. The losses where our coach was calling them soft, we were jumping ship right and left, ceding the conference crown to whomever wanted it. A beatdown in our last regular season game didn't help any.

But here we are, and you're right, Clemson because they blasted a decent SEC team is considered to be the 3rd best team left by ESPN who called us the 10th. Heck, they even listed Huggies Thuggies as the 5th best team left. So we somehow are playing with the chip on our shoulder. I don't know if we play better or worse with a chip on our shoulder but I think it's firmly in place.

Clemson is used to the chip too. I just read on their SBNation page an article in which they were mad at SI for making Clemson ripe for a first round upset loss to NMState. Clemson hadn't won an NCAA game since 1997, so well, I can understand the pundits. But how do we go from people picking them to lose to NMS to being the 3rd best team left? Like a lot of our games I'm cautiously optimistic. And then we have to talk about Duke or Cuse.

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K-State and their fans seem to be awfully excited to be beating a 16 seed by a single point right now

Dynamic Duo • Mar 20, 2018 07:15 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

That link looked old. I was just reading something current that said they're considering using ihim.

Dynamic Duo • Mar 20, 2018 05:45 PM

@dylans I know he's injured, but I haven't kept up with him. I just read that he's healthy enough that the Sixers are being tempted to use him.

Given that the last 3 1st round picks of the sixers have lost all or almost all of their rookie seasons I'd be nervous to hear them call my name in a draft!

Clemson Tigers - Friday - 6:07 pm - CBS • Mar 20, 2018 04:51 PM

@RockChalkinTexas Pretty hilarious to see ESPN rate WVU ahead of us in their reseed, as well as TT.

Dynamic Duo • Mar 20, 2018 04:48 PM

@dylans I haven't kept up with Fultz. What do you mean he's broken?

All of you brought up what I had forgotten, the money involved and how it threatens to undo this great core of players they've got. It'd be really cool to see guys just say forget the pay, we're going to be good, and still very handsomely paid, we want to win so we're staying put. Get us some other pieces via trade or free agency and lets get a trophy.

Why Andrew Wiggins is pissed at T'Wolves • Mar 20, 2018 02:38 AM

I look at box scores frequently. The most typical wiggs box score has about 20-25 points with 2-4 rebounds and 1-2 assists. For someone with that much athletic ability he should be posting triple doubles on occasion in my opinion. It's really interesting the contrast in my viewpoint of OAD Wiggins and OAD Embiid from the gsame class. I can't get enough of Joel, and Wiggs, I just have pride in that he starts and scores some, but he really seems to be lacking drive and motivation other than to be good enough to earn a nice fat paycheck.

Dynamic Duo • Mar 20, 2018 02:26 AM

Joel had a monster night with 25 and 19, while teammate Ben Simmons had his 9th triple double of the season which included 15 assists. If Joel had 1 more turnover he would have had another less glamorous triple double!

Don't forget Simmons is a rookie, the equivalent of a junior in college. Philly is going to be winning championships in the not too distant future!

Clemson Tigers - Friday - 6:07 pm - CBS • Mar 20, 2018 01:54 AM

Nice job! I enjoyed this one and will enjoy the Duke one, Villanova one and Loyola one!

Sweet 16 Games • Mar 19, 2018 08:26 PM

Teams I would be ecstatic about winning it all. KU

Teams I would be thrilled about wnning it all which is a step below ecstatic: Loyola

Teams I would be happy for winning it all. Gonzaga, Purdue, Michigan, TT, Nevada (because it would be so undexpected)

Teams I'm ok with winning it, but won't throw a party. WVU, KSU, FSU, Clemson,

Teams I would not be happy at all winning it: Villanova, Texas AM

Teams I would be tempted to quit watching sports all together if they won it: Syracuse, Duke, Kentucky

Sweet 16 Games • Mar 19, 2018 08:17 PM

@JayHawkFanToo @Kcmatt7 Yes, you're right, forgot about that one.

Quiz • Mar 19, 2018 04:49 PM

Garrett, but the choices for where you were born didn't have an option for me, I was closest to born in big12 country so I chose that.

This Team • Mar 19, 2018 04:44 PM

Nice post @BeddieKU23 but I will admit that they've exceeded my expectations. I really thought they were very prone to an early exit, not 1st round obviously, but 2nd. But we played well. Down the stretch against SH we made a lot of plays. SH made some really tough shots that made the 4 point win look closer than it was. Playing close games all year long helped us Saturday as well. Clemson will be tough, I looked at their schedule and it kind of reminded me of Seton Halls. A lot of losses but mainly good losses. Only lost to one non tournament team, a pretty good Temple team who made the NIT. They were near the top of the rankings for a while then they started losing quite a few games but like I said, they were good losses.

@Fightsongwriter If we're not ready for Clemson, ESPN will look smart. But our team seems to play up to the competition. So I think we'll be pretty decent Friday night.

Sweet 16 Games • Mar 19, 2018 04:32 PM

The power conferences have flexed their muscles. ACC has 4, Big 12 4, Big 10 has 3, SEC 2, Loyola, Nevada, and 'Nova represent their conferences by themselves.

Sweet 16 Games • Mar 19, 2018 02:43 PM

Philly (nova) to Boston is less than 778 miles I'd suspect, but good list. Interesting stuff.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 03:09 AM

Both basketball teams in the city of Cincinnati have blown double digit leads today in games. I'm going to risk posting this now.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 03:02 AM

I've seen enough of Xavier the last couple of years to really not like them at all. Go 'Noles, even if you are ACC.

The Overrated ACC • Mar 19, 2018 02:07 AM

Time for KU to win the ACC championship

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 02:03 AM

To add to my rant. They force two big 12 teams to play during times a lot of americans will not be watching our league play.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 02:01 AM

@DoubleDD TBS

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:57 AM

West virginia state championship game just began. MAJOR RANT NOW. How on God's green earth does the NCAA punish the state of WV by making the people of that fine state to have to start watching a game at 10PM? I'm really pretty ticked off about this, and it doesn't effect me at all, but they've got all day Sunday to get these games in. What would have been wrong with playing at 12PM? There was only 1 game going then. This organization keeps doing stupider and stupider things all the time. OK, rant over.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:46 AM

Didn't realize this coach was Dave Odoms son. Got some good coaching bloodlines line there. He was pretty decent. @jayballer73 I generally don't like the whole flagrant one thing. That one in my view was marginal. It was a push off of a player who was in his grill. It was really stupid.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:40 AM

Kstate has made 3 fgs this half against a 16 seed!

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:39 AM

Been stuck on 34-33 forever

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:36 AM

@jayballer73 I've noticed that too. I think these refs have gotten caught up in the history making in the process here and have been screwing KState.

But please calling a player a junior hi kid because he's little? I've loved watching that kid play. Been a lot of fun.

Todays games • Mar 19, 2018 01:28 AM

Kentucky gets to play some crappy team, Duke gets to play some crappy team, and we're stuck with a 5 seed that just destroyed a conference champ four seed. I didn't watch, but everyone's singing Clemsons praises now and I'm sure they'll all be salivating about their chances to knock us out.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 08:27 PM

Syracuse, which mauls people all day long has twice as many FT's as MSU.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 07:04 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 Ohh, ouch, I hate to see Syracuse advance more than any team out there to be honest. But MSU's seriously major black eyes this season almost makes me want to pull for cuse. But I just can't. Syracuse will be allowed to play their usually mugging defense with impunity by the striped arbiters. Ugh, I hate that team. Go spartans.

But right now it's about 60 and sunny, so I must go enjoy it with a run! Someone keep this thing going!

The most encouraging woman in Loyola basketball history and the KU superfan our one and only Red Rooster! How about it sir, are you up for the job?

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 06:21 PM

Purdue about to win the state championship. West Virginia playing in a state championship game today.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 06:17 PM

Carson Edwards looks like he's wearing work boots. Right now he's playing like he's wearing work boots.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 06:15 PM

Even though my heart says pull for the purple kitties, I do think it'd be kind of funny to see them lose to umbc. And it would be seriously cool to see a 16 seed in the sweet 16.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 06:13 PM

Pulling for Big10 and Big12 today and against ACC, SEC and everyone else! I'd like to pull against the PAC12, the conference of champions, but well, you know, we can't.

Todays games • Mar 18, 2018 06:12 PM

Chat here. Getting interesting already.

East coast bias.....again • Mar 18, 2018 06:09 PM

@JayHawkFanToo I saw that bio after I posted the link. If they're letting him write about the tourney he probably knows enough to write something cogent about the dance. And even though he's midwestern in residence and education, he's an east coaster and it showed in that tripe he wrote. I'm sure coach K isn't letting his kids think they're the favorites. They're as scared of us as we are of them I'm pretty sure.

I guess what bugged me is they're in a bracket with two other blue bloods and they barely mention us and MSU. It shouldn't bug me, as I can't take a more whatever attitude like you did. I need to be more like that sometimes!

East coast bias.....again • Mar 18, 2018 01:07 PM

@nuleafjhawk I wonder if they read that kind of crap?

East coast bias.....again • Mar 18, 2018 12:37 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/march-madness-saturday-roundup-favorites-emerge-jordan-poole-becomes-michigan-hero-061259284.html ↗

It's over. KU might as well quit the tournament right now. We have no chance. Don't know that writer from Adam, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a Duke grad. It shouldn't piss me off, but, well, I'm really pissed off from reading that.

Other games in this whacky tournament • Mar 18, 2018 12:25 PM

Michigan fouls after miss with 4 seconds left. Turn off tv in disgust. Miss epic buzzer beater.

Relatively big night • Mar 18, 2018 05:00 AM

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@wissox jj had 36

Good catch. I guess when I looked the game wasn't over.

Relatively big night • Mar 18, 2018 04:09 AM

JJ had 30, Frank 8, 6, 2, Wiggs 21,5,5; Selden 16, Cheick 6, 4, Whichever Morris plays for Washington had 16, Oubre had 15. Nice to look at boxscores and see our guys holding their own in the league.

I love the various aspects of the game last night. Lyles was eligible to transfer as a graduate student. His parents, both Virginia grads, counseled him against doing so even though, from what I read, Florida and Ours Truly KU had reached out to him. I was sitting next to my daughters boyfriend watching the game and he's from Virginia, his brother wrestles for the university of Virginia, so I was hiding my glee a little bit. But I was also texting back and forth with a friend who played for UMBC's womens team a few years back and she of course was ecstatic.

As for us, even though I was stressed about today, we'd had too many puzzling losses this year for me to get overstressed about it. Assuming we survive our next round, we'll make another elite 8 and go up against Duke or MSU and possibly bow out and while it will suck to loss to either, we'll have some satisfaction that we were one of 8 teams out of 350 to survive that long.

KU vs Seton Hall Game Chat.. • Mar 18, 2018 03:11 AM

Thanks to UMBC's gift, KState should make it to the sweet 16. WVU could make it 4!

KU vs Seton Hall Game Chat.. • Mar 18, 2018 02:58 AM

This is the type of game the tough big 12 needs to win.

KU vs Seton Hall Game Chat.. • Mar 18, 2018 02:56 AM

Wow, Beard has used 1 TO only in this pressure packed game. Pretty impressive.

KU vs Seton Hall Game Chat.. • Mar 18, 2018 02:50 AM

Just turned it on and saw some strange ones.