Kentucky is losing their exhibition at half time to D2 Miles College by 7.

Can imagine the Kentucky boards right now.

Things you love to see.

Their game against Duke might get ugly.

@BShark 9 point victory, but wow I was expecting them to be better with the grad transfers

@Kcmatt7 I wasn't. All is not well at UK, last year proof enough for me. And they play in a fairly weak conference, and could not beat anyone.

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 I wasn't. All is not well at UK, last year proof enough for me. And they play in a fairly weak conference, and could not beat anyone.

I'm not quite sure that I could agree with you even saying they in a fairly weak Conference. - I think they got a Solid conference, not exceptional but don't think fairly weak is correct either.

When you look at things yes you can say projected , BUT you could say the same thing about our conference and projections.

According to the different polls they have the following in the preseason top 25 : - - CBS- 5 - - USA - -5 - - AP - - 6 - -Coach's- -5 that's a pretty good representation in the projected top 25

Early Bracketology yes again just guesses BUT AGAIN the same thing can be said about our Conference but they have as follows - CBS - -7 teams projected in tourney - -& ESPN projected teams in the tourney also - - 7 expected - So to say fairly weak if this is how it is I would say that's not even fairly weak. I would say that's a solid Conference with some really good teams , we shall see how it plays out but at this point ummmm - - - -

I caught the highlights... UK looks not so good. I think this is another year for us to add many wins against them in the totals race!

@jayballer67 But the pre-season projections hardly ever pan out for the SEC though, do they?

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 But the pre-season projections hardly ever pan out for the SEC though, do they?

maybe or maybe not. but usually have a solid conference, I just have to question the use of words weak or fairly weak. if it doesn't pan out for them mostly because just like the Big 12 they beat up one another in Conference play.

For sure not a Super Conference not as strong as the big 12 BUT just have a hard time in believing that they are weak or fairly weak - -seems like yr after yr they are a solid conference you normally see decent numbers in the tourney

KU trails Kentucky by only 4 wins now. Remarkable really because it was not nearly that close recently. Not going to go back and figure it out, but I recall it being somewhere in the 30 something range 5-6 years ago.

@wissox

• 2020-21: +12
• 2019-20: +3
• 2018-19: -4
• 2017-18: +5
• 2016-17: -1
• 2015-16: +6
• 2014-15: -11
• 2013-14: -4
• 2012-13: +10
• 2011-12: -6
• 2010-11: +6
• 2009-10: -2
• 2008-09: +5 (Billy Gillispie Era)
• 2007-08: +19
• 2006-07: +11 (Tubby Smith Era)
• 2005-06: +3
• 2004-05: -5
• 2003-04: -3

We've picked up 44 wins against UK in the Bill Self Era. And if I were a betting man that expands this season...

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

@wissox

• 2020-21: +12
• 2019-20: +3
• 2018-19: -4
• 2017-18: +5
• 2016-17: -1
• 2015-16: +6
• 2014-15: -11
• 2013-14: -4
• 2012-13: +10
• 2011-12: -6
• 2010-11: +6
• 2009-10: -2
• 2008-09: +5 (Billy Gillispie Era)
• 2007-08: +19
• 2006-07: +11 (Tubby Smith Era)
• 2005-06: +3
• 2004-05: -5
• 2003-04: -3

We've picked up 44 wins against UK in the Bill Self Era. And if I were a betting man that expands this season...

I am thinking that it will too... You know, looking at his career, Calipari has never really had any league competition. UMass? Nope. Memphis? No. UK? Not really. I wonder - if he is still around - how he is going to feel in a few years about Beard owning both him and the SEC every season? Serious question.

UK's record last year was what? That - with that talent while in that conference! - showcased a serious lack of coaching.

@Marco

Never thought I would pull for Texas... especially now... but when you put it this way.. heck yes! I'll be thrilled if the blue nation turns burnt orange! lol

Terrance Shannon of Texas Tech is being held out while his eligibility is reviewed.. Feels like they could have completed that well before November

First time Navy beat a Top 25 team since David Robinson was a Midshipman in 1986.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20211109_NAVY ↗@UVA/

Pitt lost to The Citadel. Capel is a :clown_face:

No doubt Duke will be ranked probably #2 after beating Kentucky who will. probably move up to #5!!!

With school off tomorrow I drive down to the spectacular home of DePaul basketball to see them take on Coppin St. it’s on FS1 in case reruns of Everybody Loves Raymond aren’t exciting enough.

It’s the debut of Tyon Foster Grant for DePaul.

Juan Dixon was a great player for Maryland who beat us beat us in the ff of 2002. He’s the head coach for Coppin. Coppin lost by 60 to Loyola last night so I don’t know what to expect.

DePaul commits first violation of game at the 19:59 mark. Got to be a record

LOL TGF is the leading scorer but picked up his 2nd foul 6 minutes into it.

What’s your favorite TFG memory?

KSU might lose to Florida A&M.

It is it TGF?

@wissox

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@wissox
LOL or is it?

Houston needed OT to beat Hofstra last night.

Bryce Thompson had 14 points in 25 minutes coming off the bench for OSU last night in a 43 point win over UTA.

Silvio DeSousa had 5 points and 5 rebounds in 11 minutes starting for UT-Chattanooga in an 11 point win over Loyola-Marymount on the road. He also had 4 fouls which limited his minutes.

Tristan Enaruna had 4 points in 17 minutes for ISU in an 11 point win over Kennesaw St.

K-State with an impressive 67-57 over Florida International - -just aww taking lol

@jayballer67 Mcguirl 0-6 with 3 points. I find this way too funny!

Tyon is not on the bench. Don’t know where he is.

Juan Dixon just got kicked out.

@wissox when he transferred.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

What’s your favorite TFG memory?

When he transferred.

https://depauliaonline.com/55809/sports/grant-foster-taken-to-the-hospital-during-depauls-season-opening-win/ ↗

@wissox oh wow!

@rockchalkwyo said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 Mcguirl 0-6 with 3 points. I find this way too funny!

I find Mcgurl funny period lmao

We get the great privilege if we want of watching Coach K's last first game of the season in Cameron on the duke network aka espn.

@wissox when i was talking about coach K, my son asked me yesterday “who is coach K?” I told him that’s the right answer. He said “it’s not like anyone tells you Krzyzewski is spelled with a K” I assured him that I enjoyed hearing “who is coach K?” and will enjoy it when kids don’t know in the future as well.

@approxinfinity I think in some ways he's a 'victim' of for whatever reason ESPN just decided that they would make Duke their favorite. I seriously doubt that ESPN knows how much Americans are tired of Duke and Coach K. It's not quite hate because he hasn't done anything to make Americans hate him. I'm just tired of him. The Duke whistle, the incessant fawning over him by media, the recruiting advantage they have, all of it just combines to cause Americans to just be so over him. But of course another year, and in game interviews, and halftime specials, and postgame interviews when our game is on and yada yada yada, ENOUGH!

@wissox quick hit responses

Does ESPN have its own interest in promoting K that he doesn’t have control over? Yes

Is he a victim? Absolutely not. He has been extremely privileged to get that positive attention and has benefited massively

Does the media attention make fans tire of K? Partially. But you have to recognize that ESPN promotes K because he’s unlikeable and divisive. He had those unlikeable qualities before ESPN latched onto him. It attracted them to him. Controversy sells.

Am I just tired of Coach K? No. I hate him and ESPN and see them as a symbiotic relationship between parasites.

@approxinfinity I guess the different viewpoint of who he is makes me say he's a bit of a victim because I think ESPN has made Americans dislike him. The Duke Whistle, his fault? Maybe a little but not without complicit officials.

@wissox you may as well say ESPN is a victim too by that logic. They’re just trying to get clickbait and eyeballs. Aren’t we all victims? We the consumer aren’t responsible for their bullshit, because we don’t know any better and watch it.

I’m not buying the victim angle.

Coach K would be unlikeable even if there was no one there to watch him.

I think you are both letting your own dislike of him, and the KU history with Duke, color your perceptions of what American in general think. I have met dozens of people here in S Carolina who seem very mystified when I have talked negatively about the guy Jaybate called "Ratface."

@mayjay I live in acc country. If you’re not a duke fan you hate Duke here.

In my younger days I had a Duke is a dog tshirt

@wissox K is not a victim, please let that go. He has victimized schools though, yeah I said it. He is a conniving snitch, period.

@wissox Saying Coach K is the victim is like saying straight white cis-gendered men are the most persecuted subgroup. Are there challenges? Sure. Are they comparable to the power they wield to affect change? Not at all.

Here’s a supercut of K being an asshole 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@approxinfinity K is not a victim, please let that go. He has victimized schools though, yeah I said it. He was a conniving snitch, period.

Ummm K is by far no victim of anything , K is an intimidator to the officials for one. - - As soon as he thinks he is being treated un fair then watch how the calls sway for the rest of a game. - -ESPN kissing his ass doesn't make him a victim by any means all they do is promote him. Last year was a very sweet year for sure Duke sucking last year and then Kentucky being bottom was just the cherry on top. - - I'll be so glad when this K crap is over.- Sad to see all were going to see is high lights over every game for Duke this year and how they play rat face up at every game see really sad. be glad when he fades away in the Sun seet

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Here’s a supercut of K being an asshole 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

think that pretty well sums it up farmer - the TRUE K

@FarmerJayhawk glad you got the brooks kid in there! Huge lie! Espn needs to play this during our games at half! 😇

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

@mayjay I live in acc country. If you’re not a duke fan you hate Duke here.

Can confirm. Chapel Hill is distilled disdain of K. His last game at the Dean Dome will be NUTS

It's really the blatant lies that stand out to me.

Why the hell is Villanova and UCLA playing at 10:30pm on a Friday night??? That needs to be a prime time game considering it's a pair of top 5 teams playing each other. I hope I can make it awake for that one and then tomorrow night is the same deal with Texas and Gonzaga playing at 9:30.

These should be high profile games in prime time slots, not relegated to spots where most people won't be able to watch.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

Why the hell is Villanova and UCLA playing at 10:30pm on a Friday night??? That needs to be a prime time game considering it's a pair of top 5 teams playing each other. I hope I can make it awake for that one and then tomorrow night is the same deal with Texas and Gonzaga playing at 9:30.

These should be high profile games in prime time slots, not relegated to spots where most people won't be able to watch.

I bet Bucks Celtics does a lot better number at the primetime slot than Nova UCLA would. Just straight cash, homie.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

Why the hell is Villanova and UCLA playing at 10:30pm on a Friday night??? That needs to be a prime time game considering it's a pair of top 5 teams playing each other. I hope I can make it awake for that one and then tomorrow night is the same deal with Texas and Gonzaga playing at 9:30.

These should be high profile games in prime time slots, not relegated to spots where most people won't be able to watch.

I will be asleep before that starts. Glad it isn't a KU game time...

Furman is taking it to Louisville right now. 21-10

Louisville flipped the script.

Army giving Duke a game so far...

You all need to learn to read. But since I'm a teacher maybe I can teach you!

Teach!

Billy Gillespie! Awesome.

My VT super fan friend is convinced they win the ACC this year.

UNC sucks. That is my take

This is the first D1 school Brown has played since 2020

THIS IS MY 3,000th POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's it. That's the post.

@RockChalkinTexas You're a winner!

@FarmerJayhawk Aren't they Ivy League?

!alt text ↗

@wissox yessir

Nova UCLA is a rock fight

@FarmerJayhawk Then that's DI, so I don't get your comment about that it's the first DI school played since 2000.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk Then that's DI, so I don't get your comment about that it's the first DI school played since 2000.

The Ivy League canceled basketball last year due to Covid

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

It's really the blatant lies that stand out to me.

In essence, K was and is a fake holier-than-thou who can do no wronger. Talks about doing things right and the integrity of the game,,,, while being the biggest and best stacked-deck Doc Holliday-like cheater. And like Holliday, he'll go down in history as a good guy when, in fact, ehh that's kind of iffy.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

UNC sucks. That is my take

Can I add Ohio St. to that list? Needing a buzzer beater against Akron and only beating Niagra by 10. They don't deserve to be ranked.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk Then that's DI, so I don't get your comment about that it's the first DI school played since 2000.

I'm not sure I would trust you teaching someone to read right now, lol! Unless @FarmerJayhawk edited that post because it says 2020, not 2000.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Hah, guess you're right. I did read it as 2000, suspect he edited but it wouldn't be the first time I misread something! By the way you spelled Niagara wrong!!

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Hah, guess you're right. I did read it as 2000, suspect he edited but it wouldn't be the first time I misread something! By the way you spelled Niagara wrong!!

There's a reason I'm a history teacher and not a reading or math teacher.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I'd forgotten you taught. Hope you're having a great year.

No editing on my end! Blame it on being late on a Friday night 😂

I was not expecting UT to get smacked like this

As long as Remy and Bill can keep it together, we won the PG sweepstakes. Carr is not as dynamic

@Kcmatt7 we got 3 good ones

Timme is absolutely dominating for a guy with no vertical

I expected more from a Beard team defensively. Maybe Zags are that good. Or maybe UT is a bit worse than we thought to start. Really expected this game to be better.

KU was after at least 3 of the players for UT, so I’m a little surprised

@Kcmatt7 Zags are good. Texas isn't there offensively yet. They have some pretty inefficient offensive players (Carr/Askew).

Actually more afraid of Baylor atm.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Baylor did lose a guy, right?

@Crimsonorblue22 Love I think, but their team is still pretty nice. Akinjo, Flagler, Brown, Mayer, Thamba is a very nice starting 5.

Imagine those UT football fans leaving the KU game early so they could go home and watch Gonzaga eat their lunch.

@Kcmatt7 Sark is in trouble. They have a top 10 recruiting class every year. A good coach? He'd fart out 8 or 9 wins easy every season.

Florida/Florida St is on ESPN. Close game until Florida with a nice run. Empty seats seen. Unbelievable! Rivalry game, FSU ranked 20. Florida playing on Billy Donovan court. He should still be coaching there. They were a worthy foe for Kentucky to worry about every year. I like what Billy is doing with the Bulls but he really should have stayed in college.

The Villanova - UCLA game was a gem. High-level play. A long string of made shots by both teams in the second half. Fun. Outstanding for this time of the year.

@bskeet too bad it was a late night affair
. Those teams deserved better

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@bskeet too bad it was a late night affair
. Those teams deserved better

Late even for the West Coast...8:40 tipoff at Pauley

@nwhawkfan we were busy with a fb game, plus the post game

@Crimsonorblue22 oh, that was Texas - zags game

They all blur together after a while. Hate it when there are three or four good viewing choices on a given night.

Anybody see Bryce Thompson had 2 pts, today. Ewww.

@Kcmatt7

Few tends to have his teams ready early in the year and so they thrash opponents. Since this team has many pieces back...

Yes... Timme doesn't have much vertical or speed but he plays smart. He has a different kind of athleticism. He's great at backing people up in the low block and has some pretty quick pivot moves. He's a guy who has maximized his potential. Just goes to show... I'd rather have a skilled player with brains than with athleticism (if having to choose between the two).

The Zags are a handful this year... especially because they carry a huge chip (thank you, Baylor!).

KU vs Zags... this year? Ha.. we'd need the play the defensive game of a lifetime! Big Dave would have more than his hands full. Our only hope would be to apply enough pressure up top that they had a hard time of setting their offense.

Gonzaga is the worst matchup in the country for KU imo. Timme when he plays like that will be POY. We have nothing that could stop him from getting 30+. Holmgren is the shot blocker among other things. Imagine Dave trying to finesse score his way over a 7 footer with great block instincts. We'd feed the post anyway like usual and lose trying. I'm not saying Gonzaga is a better team overall, I just think they are the worst matchup for KU.

Gonzaga's guard play isn't even close to as good as last season. We know what Bolton is, Nembhard is the catalyst but more of a playmaker then scorer. They have the two freshman guards KU recruited + Julian Strawther a wing KU was after that I liked a good deal.

I think they caught Texas at the right time. Texas was without Vandy transfer Disu that's supposed to be a big part of their frontcourt. What was left to guard the Zag's frontcourt was a few 6'8 types and that's not going to cut it. If you take away Timme going 15-19 from the field Gonzaga shot 42%. This is an outlier game for Gonzaga overall. The game simply came down to Texas inability to stop one guy. Texas definitely looked like a team that doesn't know how to play with each other against good teams yet. 2nd game in a tough environment on the road. Might see a different outcome if they played in March

@drgnslayr I think j the strategy vs Zags would be to play Jalen at the 5 and force Timme on the perimeter. That’s what Baylor did.

Make him such a defensive liability that he’s barely playable

@Kcmatt7

The Zags are one of the few teams that's going to use that 2 big lineup so the right scheme executed a high level can overcome that. I'd like to see a good team zone them up because I don't think they have the perimeter shooting they had last year.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Gonzaga is the worst matchup in the country for KU imo. Timme when he plays like that will be POY. We have nothing that could stop him from getting 30+. Holmgren is the shot blocker among other things. Imagine Dave trying to finesse score his way over a 7 footer with great block instincts. We'd feed the post anyway like usual and lose trying. I'm not saying Gonzaga is a better team overall, I just think they are the worst matchup for KU.

Gonzaga's guard play isn't even close to as good as last season. We know what Bolton is, Nembhard is the catalyst but more of a playmaker then scorer. They have the two freshman guards KU recruited + Julian Strawther a wing KU was after that I liked a good deal.

I think they caught Texas at the right time. Texas was without Vandy transfer Disu that's supposed to be a big part of their frontcourt. What was left to guard the Zag's frontcourt was a few 6'8 types and that's not going to cut it. If you take away Timme going 15-19 from the field Gonzaga shot 42%. This is an outlier game for Gonzaga overall. The game simply came down to Texas inability to stop one guy. Texas definitely looked like a team that doesn't know how to play with each other against good teams yet. 2nd game in a tough environment on the road. Might see a different outcome if they played in March

As I've read more about this freshman I'd have to agree. Looks like they are the team to beat right now and likely will stay that way most of the year.

@benshawks08 no, they won't. Will get beat up on the inside by a team that bodies up and has weight, no outide shooting.

Checking out Shaka Smart against the Illini. Then the Badgers got Providence.

Missouri down 9 to UMKC at the half.

@BShark I don't want to play them! So insignificant! They should test them first! For everything. Make their fans have vax cards🤣

Looks like our old friend Shaka pulled off the upset over Illinois.

Guessing that the Marquette fan base will give him a lot more slack than he had at Texas.

ROO UP

80-66 Roos. Final.

ROOS WIN 80-66

MUCK FIZZOU

Mizzou, OU, and Texas. Hell of a last few days for the SEC

@nwhawkfan I'm not sure if you watched but Illini didn't have Kofi Cockburn playing and still had a 10 point lead through most of the 2nd half. Then Underwood inexplicably let one of his guards Carbelo throw the game away. He committed turnover after turnover, and/or poor shot after poor shot. I still cheer for Illinois a bit as a native of that state and I was really pretty pissed off at the result. Brad really blew it.

Wow, last time I saw a Roos score they were losing by 40 to Dotson & McCormack's career day at the Sprint Center. Good to see Methzu still sucks

Bryce Thompson's stellar shooting at KU translating well to Oklahoma St so far.

In 3 games shooting a blistering, wait for it...

40% FG, 27% 3ptFG%, 33% FT%, 0 assists in 78 minutes.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Checking out Shaka Smart against the Illini. Then the Badgers got Providence.

At what point should have Gard taken the ball away from Crowl and Carlson? Didn't see the game but they went a combined 2-17 from the field. Including Hepburn they were 4-25. Rest of team shot 45%. Wow.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Bryce Thompson's stellar shooting at KU translating well to Oklahoma St so far.

In 3 games shooting a blistering, wait for it...

40% FG, 27% 3ptFG%, 33% FT%, 0 assists in 78 minutes.

May have avoided another Connor, possible another over ranked recruit on top of that sometimes just not a good fit. Connor was NOT a god fit. - - Grimes struggled here Transferred worked out better - - might of dodged a bullet

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Bryce Thompson's stellar shooting at KU translating well to Oklahoma St so far.

In 3 games shooting a blistering, wait for it...

40% FG, 27% 3ptFG%, 33% FT%, 0 assists in 78 minutes.

I'm SHOCKED

Well, well. Guess whose star player is in deep doo-doo...

https://www.deadspin.com/uh-oh-coach-k-s-grandson-and-duke-star-paolo-banchero-1848065897/ ↗

@nwhawkfan wow, he didn't get that covered up.

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

Well, well. Guess whose star player is in deep doo-doo...

https://www.deadspin.com/uh-oh-coach-k-s-grandson-and-duke-star-paolo-banchero-1848065897/ ↗

Got popped in Orange County (Chapel Hill, Hillsborough) instead of Durham too. Awk.

@Crimsonorblue22 It'll be interesting to see how Coach K handles this compared to Coach Self in the Wilson case. He could suspend him for a game or two, or argue that he only "aided and abetted" his grandson and give him a slap on the wrist. Splitting hairs perhaps, but I'll bet it's the latter.

Paolo will get suspended for minutes, I'm telling you. Minutes!

@FarmerJayhawk No doubt a stern talking to will be had as well.

He'll fall on the floor, "my back"

@FarmerJayhawk did he not play in the last game?

@FarmerJayhawk https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sports/2021/11/16/duke-players-arrested-freshman-paolo-banchero-will-play-charged-abetting-dwi/8642920002/ ↗

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sports/2021/11/16/duke-players-arrested-freshman-paolo-banchero-will-play-charged-abetting-dwi/8642920002/ ↗

Good lord. K is really going full K his last year.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2021-11-14-15-stephen-f-austin.html ↗

Latrell buckets Jossell

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sports/2021/11/16/duke-players-arrested-freshman-paolo-banchero-will-play-charged-abetting-dwi/8642920002/ ↗

Good lord. K is really going full K his last year.

Going out like a weak chump, let the University handle the matter. That's that leader of young men that I was talking about a little over a week ago.

@BeddieKU23 Badgers were up against it without Jonathan Davis. He's a pretty decent guard/forward hybrid. His scoring was sorely missed and we really couldn't find buckets in that game. I'm not familiar enough with Crowl and Carlson to know. It was the first game i could watch, and neither played much last season. Crowl is supposed to be a stretch four, but his wide open threes were barely drawing front of the iron. He's been decent so far against a couple of lightweights but struggled for sure last night.

A couple of things about watching other games tonight .

!st I didn't know I think they showed since 2018 the 3 top winningest teams was 1 - - Gonzaga - - -2 Houston - -& 3 Virginia -had no idea.

2nd. I don't get this and I officiated for like 15 yrs but watching the Kentucky game, And Cal being Cal. -Kentucky player got a block called on him and Cal wasn't happy with that at all - So during a timeout Cal left not only the Coaching box but walked clear out underneath the basket inside the restricted circle and was beefing with the Ref. - Nothing was done - -Not a T nothing

I know as an official live situation or dead ball situation nobody is to come onto the floor especially that far as under the basket and confront an official about a call - no violently -BUT STILL out on the floor , in that situation and that far off the Bench and on the flor that is trying to show an official up - that's not going to get you any where just intimidation - -Tha'ts Cal - not quite sure why he got no T

UNC still not good. Down by 5 at Charleston

Heels managed to pull it out. Michigan not so lucky as Seton Hall comes back to win.

And Oregon gets absolutely clobbered as BYU goes into Portland and beats the Ducks by 32.

@nwhawkfan

Seton Hall looked like an underrated team coming into the season. Veteran roster there with lots of size so not surprised they knocked off a young Michigan team.
The Oregon drubbing was not expected especially at home. That's a really bad loss.

@wissox

Looks like a bit of a rebuild year for Wisconsin, very young team. Yeah Davis was avg 15 a game, why did he miss the game?

The people who voted Virginia in the Top 25 need to find a new hobby!

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

The people who voted Virginia in the Top 25 need to find a new hobby!

Agree.

Did you see Oregon last night? LMAO

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

The people who voted Virginia in the Top 25 need to find a new hobby!

I watched the 1st half of that. I take it they got beat

Did N Carolina end up getting beat or did they win ?

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

@nwhawkfan

Seton Hall looked like an underrated team coming into the season. Veteran roster there with lots of size so not surprised they knocked off a young Michigan team.
The Oregon drubbing was not expected especially at home. That's a really bad loss.

Who did Oregon get beat by ?

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

Heels managed to pull it out. Michigan not so lucky as Seton Hall comes back to win.

And Oregon gets absolutely clobbered as BYU goes into Portland and beats the Ducks by 32.

Jumpin - - gee - - hossie - -toads - -32 points at home - - WOW

@BeddieKU23 some sort of mysterious "lower body injury". Your guess is as good as mine as to what that means.

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Did N Carolina end up getting beat or did they win ?

UNC won by 11

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

The people who voted Virginia in the Top 25 need to find a new hobby!

I watched the 1st half of that. I take it they got beat

by 20 while scoring 47 pts

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

@nwhawkfan

Seton Hall looked like an underrated team coming into the season. Veteran roster there with lots of size so not surprised they knocked off a young Michigan team.
The Oregon drubbing was not expected especially at home. That's a really bad loss.

Who did Oregon get beat by ?

BYU at home. LOL

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Paolo will get suspended for minutes, I'm telling you. Minutes!

Absolutely correct, except wrong root. Take off the s, and pronounce with a long i and a long u, as in "a minute punishment."

@BeddieKU23 Technically a neutral court loss since they played in Portland and not Eugene. Still, that's the equivalent of a bad KU loss at Sprint (oops, T-Mobile) Center.

Maryland taken down by 2005 darling George Mason. Turg aint gonna be happy. Jury is still out on one my Jayhawk Favs if can really take MD to the promised land.

This NCSU/OSU game is brutal. Neither team is at 40% from the floor. 31-27 with 18:19 to go

Michigan St beats Butler by 21 on the road. Michigan St seems decent.

Joey Hauser sucks though. Malik Hall should be starting.

Ugly game of the year candidate. VCU 48 Vandy 37.

@wissox

I was just going to post the same thing. That score hurt my eyes

Few observations watching Baylor last night.

They may not fall off at all this season. They have 3 guards (Akinjo, Flagler, Cryer) that so far are mimicking what Butler/Mitchell/Flagler did last year.

LJ Cryer has really improved. Back to back 20 point games.

Jeremy Sochan a 6'9 freshman forward is a stud. Kendall Brown is as advertised. Hate seeing him in a Baylor Jersey.

Their defense is really good again.

They haven't played anyone yet. Central Arkansas looked like a D3 school.

Heard on Twitter that Juan may not start once Wilson is back. Self also said that Wilson might not start.

I personally hope Wilson doesn’t start. It’s a character comparison vrs rat face.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Few observations watching Baylor last night.

They may not fall off at all this season. They have 3 guards (Akinjo, Flagler, Cryer) that so far are mimicking what Butler/Mitchell/Flagler did last year.

LJ Cryer has really improved. Back to back 20 point games.

Jeremy Sochan a 6'9 freshman forward is a stud. Kendall Brown is as advertised. Hate seeing him in a Baylor Jersey.

Their defense is really good again.

They haven't played anyone yet. Central Arkansas looked like a D3 school.

What is Meyer looking l.ike ?- -is he starting now ? Looks like it might be a real dog fight between KU , Baylor , & Texas

@BeddieKU23 I've been on this train for a while. I don't think they'll be as good as last season because I don't think any of their guards is close to being as good as Davion Mitchell, but their team is still really good. Akinjo, Flagler, Brown, Mayer, Thamba starting with Cryer, Dainja, Sochan, and JTT off the bench.

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Few observations watching Baylor last night.

They may not fall off at all this season. They have 3 guards (Akinjo, Flagler, Cryer) that so far are mimicking what Butler/Mitchell/Flagler did last year.

LJ Cryer has really improved. Back to back 20 point games.

Jeremy Sochan a 6'9 freshman forward is a stud. Kendall Brown is as advertised. Hate seeing him in a Baylor Jersey.

Their defense is really good again.

They haven't played anyone yet. Central Arkansas looked like a D3 school.

What is Meyer looking l.ike ?- -is he starting now ? Looks like it might be a real dog fight between KU , Baylor , & Texas

Yeah he's starting. One of their leaders and scoring options. Terrible hair still with that mullet going on.

Starting 5 so far has been Flagler/Akinjo/Meyer in the backcourt. Using Brown at the 4 & Thamba inside. Cryer, Sochan & ChimyChanga are the main 3 subs. They use another guard Bonner (Juco kid) due to the Langston Love injury.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 I've been on this train for a while. I don't think they'll be as good as last season because I don't think any of their guards is close to being as good as Davion Mitchell, but their team is still really good. Akinjo, Flagler, Brown, Mayer, Thamba starting with Cryer, Dainja, Sochan, and JTT off the bench.

It's early of course and they have played 3 sisters of the poor but the things that stuck out to me

• no drop off in guard play so far after losing 3 studs

• defense is just as aggressive & effective as it was last season

• easy to see winning culture and chemistry exists even with new guys in the lineup

I agree they are not as good as last year but the drop off so far is minimal. The season ending injury to Langston Love limits their ceiling a bit I think. He was a big time scorer in HS. However Brown & Sochan are NBA guys & the emergence of LJ Cryer has raised their potential a good bit. They look like a E8/F4 contender. I don't think they can win it all.

@BeddieKU23 Yeah Baylor has next level scheduling bad teams strat. It might not look like it to some people but they schedule much worse competition from those lower leagues than schools like KU do. They also tend to have some games that count against actual D2 comp every year.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 I've been on this train for a while. I don't think they'll be as good as last season because I don't think any of their guards is close to being as good as Davion Mitchell, but their team is still really good. Akinjo, Flagler, Brown, Mayer, Thamba starting with Cryer, Dainja, Sochan, and JTT off the bench.

It's early of course and they have played 3 sisters of the poor but the things that stuck out to me

• no drop off in guard play so far after losing 3 studs

• defense is just as aggressive & effective as it was last season

• easy to see winning culture and chemistry exists even with new guys in the lineup

I agree they are not as good as last year but the drop off so far is minimal. The season ending injury to Langston Love limits their ceiling a bit I think. He was a big time scorer in HS. However Brown & Sochan are NBA guys & the emergence of LJ Cryer has raised their potential a good bit. They look like a E8/F4 contender. I don't think they can win it all.

I believe the offense is probably about as good as last season, but I'm skeptical about the defense. Mitchell and Vital were two of the best defenders I've ever seen in college basketball. I don't think they're going to be as good defensively, and that's probably where the drop-off will be.

@KirkIsMyHinrich

Agree Vital & Mitchell were elite level defenders. They had 21 steals last night but they played what looked like one of the worst teams in D-1. So far I see little drop-off from their defense but I do think that changes when they play real teams.

@BeddieKU23 Yeah, the game is easier when you physically outmatch the opponent at every position.

Watched the end of the Oklahoma game vs. Indiana State. Didn't realize OU has the Groves Bros. from Eastern Washington...thought we were rid of them.

Not to mention Porter Moser (ex-Loyola-Chicago) as coach. Could be scary in Big XII play.

Tanner (the one with the beard) had 24 points on 10 of 15 from the field, and 8 boards. 11 points off the bench from brother Jacob.

Home town refs for the Dook game. Also no mention of a DUI

@rockchalkwyo To be fair, we have some home town refs too!

@wissox I know I know. I’m immature ok 😀

@rockchalkwyo Join the club!!

The Shockers came up a little short last night but gave Arizona all they wanted. Looks like WSU is going to be one of the teams on or close to the “bubble “ come tourney time. Kinda funny I live in Wichita but don’t hear the Shocker fans saying how they want a piece of KU like they did several years back!

@Oldmanhawk said in Non-KU Games:

The Shockers came up a little short last night but gave Arizona all they wanted. Looks like WSU is going to be one of the teams on or close to the “bubble “ come tourney time. Kinda funny I live in Wichita but don’t hear the Shocker fans saying how they want a piece of KU like they did several years back!

Hey buddy you live in Wichita ? -that's cool I lived there for a length of time , well there and in the rural area right outside of there. - Live right across from Wichita East for a short time , ya I know not the best of area but wasn't there long was really young guy then lived in a duplex right off Douglas. - Then. live on 31st and South Meriden , liked it there Got married and moved out to Benton Ks , I'm sure you kow where thats at - - LOVED IT THERE

Worked in some area's that wasn't the best buttttttt , work part time as a 2nd job right there like at I think like 17th and Hillside just a short ways from the WSU Campus - - THAT was NOT a good area at all lol. work at a Kwik Shop - -Then worked for what used to a long log time ago Allen Electric I think it was like 1134 N Washington ,Electrical wholesale supply warehouse yippee lol. - About 2 blocks north of where the Wichita Police officer got shot in the head, I remember when I 1st started there Allen still had shotgun portholes where they had in the sides of the buildings to protect the business during the riots. - Allen sold out then if became AMFAC Electric I actually enjoyed working thre. Worked for Sutherlands Lumber on 21st ? - by the stockyards - - that was fun - - oh those were the days lol - I actually like the City of Wichita it'self lol

@jayballer67 too funny…my wife lived just north of Benton when she was a teenager. Went to Circle High for a couple years. I grew up on a farm just outside of Garden Plain, a small town just west of Wichita. Moved to the city when I started working for Cessna. I like where I’m at but man I kinda miss the quiet laid back life on the farm

@Oldmanhawk said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 too funny…my wife lived just north of Benton when she was a teenager. Went to Circle High for a couple years. I grew up on a farm just outside of Garden Plain, a small town just west of Wichita. Moved to the city when I started working for Cessna. I like where I’m at but man I kinda miss the quiet laid back life on the farm

ya just goes to show small world. - Ya had some nieces that lived in Towanda that went to Circle , Brother in law went to Circle. - I'm like you Wichita was fine but really like living in small town rural USA - Benton was just fine for me

Watching Baylor and Stanford right now. Baylor looks really good. Their roster construction is nice; all the pieces fit really well together.

Nova is murdering Tennessee, which isn't surprising. Villanova is really good too this year.

Sochan looks like the real deal. That's probably Jalen Wilson's match-up. That'll be fun

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Watching Baylor and Stanford right now. Baylor looks really good. Their roster construction is nice; all the pieces fit really well together.

Beating Stanford that bad without Flagler… Drew has that program rolling.

@Kcmatt7 Ya, I feel like they are better than #9. If their name was Duke or Kentucky they'd probably be Top 5. They have Nova and Oregon coming up though so I guess we'll find out.

Baylor playing like...Baylor.

Meanwhile, Jerod Haase looks to be on the hot seat at Stanford. That loss to Santa Clara didn't help. Hate to see it happen to a Jayhawk who I really enjoyed as a player, but this may be his last season in Palo Alto. It's his sixth year with the Cardinal, and they've only finished in the top half of the Pac-12 once under him.

@nwhawkfan I liked Jerod as a player too, but he's not doing well at Stanford. Hard school to recruit kids to, but that can't be the entire reason. It's not like the Pac12 has been stacked the entire time he's been there.

I was at a NonKU game yesterday in football and it was a blast. UW beat Nebraska which oddly is 1-7 in the B1G but has outscored its opponents in league games 218-211. The one game they won the won by 49 and they've had close games against everyone else. Badgers 17 year old RB ran for 225 yards.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 Ya, I feel like they are better than #9. If their name was Duke or Kentucky they'd probably be Top 5. They have Nova and Oregon coming up though so I guess we'll find out.

Nova is really damn good not sure about Oregon.

Villanova and Purdue are playing and it's not on TV?

@wissox It's on the ESPN app, but the quality kind of sucks. It said it was on ABC but it wasn't for me.

@BShark Ya I saw they got blown out by BYU. Nova's obviously better than Oregon, but Oregon is better than the teams that Baylor has played so far.

Yeah, the ESPN box score says ABC. I'm kind of pissed. Top 10 battle relegated to an app you have to pay for. ABC here is showing infomericals.

Nova can't close

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

I was at a NonKU game yesterday in football and it was a blast. UW beat Nebraska which oddly is 1-7 in the B1G but has outscored its opponents in league games 218-211. The one game they won the won by 49 and they've had close games against everyone else. Badgers 17 year old RB ran for 225 yards.

I saw someone compare Nubs football to Job of the Old Testament and now I can’t get it out of my head

@FarmerJayhawk Interesting to think about. Job lost everything, Neb has kind of the same.

Purdue came back from 11 down late to knock off Villanova.

Purdue has a lot of nice pieces

@wissox was on here, Purdue just won at the end

@Oldmanhawk no question. They'll give Michigan a run for their money, if not win the B1G outright.

I'd trade rosters with Purdue. Mainly because of Bill lol. With Jay Wright I think I'd take KU's roster instead.

@BShark a 7’4” center 👀

@rockchalkwyo that’s what they meant by nice pieces!

Michigan Arizona on now in the boner pill classic

lol Michigan

UofA looks good though. If we had Koloko we would be title favorites.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Michigan Arizona on now in the boner pill classic

Last I saw Arizona was taking it to Michigan pretty good

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Villanova and Purdue are playing and it's not on TV?

Ya it was on here on TV - Purdue has that 7'4 dude, pretty decent looked like his foot speed wasn't the best a little slow but passible 21 points in 20 minutes

Gonzaga & Purdue are horrible matchups for KU. They both have multiple bigs that can abuse Dave.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Gonzaga & Purdue are horrible matchups for KU. They both have multiple bigs that can abuse Dave.

that could be very true, but you also have to look at the other shoe, KU can also run a line up that can pretty much off set their big's. We have guys that can play the 5 and stretch the floor make their big's try to defend in space' - -we have Zach that can play sme spot , Coach even mentioned playing Jalen as a stretch 5 - so we could pretty well counter their big's with our stretch 5's kind of like what Villanova done to us a few years back , more worried about Gonzaga then Purdue

@jayballer67

Purdue has a lotto pick guard as well (Ivey) that can do it all and has shown impressive play making (13 assists in 2 games) over the weekend. They have a few other role players that make perimeter shots as well. About as well rounded a team as there is outside KU and Gonzaga

No Purdue/Villanova on major markets all over the country. ABC here in Chicago played some cuddly animal show. This is unbelievably bad decision making by someone. Purdue is less than 2 hours from Chicago. Lots of Boilermaker alums all over the area here.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Gonzaga & Purdue are horrible matchups for KU. They both have multiple bigs that can abuse Dave.

Holmgren is rail thin. Not so sure that he can bully anyone if push came to shove.

@Marco

Sure Holmgren is thin and that's just how its going to be for him until he's got years of strength training in the NBA. He's really skilled and a tremendous rim protector which we all know is something KU struggles with every single time they face a big with that kind of ability

@BeddieKU23 he is definitely skilled.

As I watch Butler get taken apart by Houston in Maui, I'm surprised at how far their program has fallen in just a dozen years, when they went to back-to-back National Championship games. Now they're bottom-feeders in the Big East.

@nwhawkfan

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

As I watch Butler get taken apart by Houston in Maui, I'm surprised at how far their program has fallen in just a dozen years, when they went to back-to-back National Championship games. Now they're bottom-feeders in the Big East.

Tough to keep up with strong programs when you don't recruit at that level.

BIG not looking too great so far. Illinois embarrassing the entire league against Cincy. They've scored 7 points in the first 13 minutes of the 2nd half. Had a 15 point lead with 10 minutes left in the first half and since then have been outscored by 34.

The grapes are so, so bad. Arky already up 15 and we’re not to the under 8

Last or 2nd to last in the conference. Hopefully last

KSU and Missouri very much not good at basketball.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Last or 2nd to last in the conference. Hopefully last

Some STIFF competition for that spot this year. Bottom 3-4 looks pretty bad to me.

Arkansas is trying to let KSU sneak back in this one.

If the go cats were even halfway competent they’d be leading by quite a few

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

If the go cats were even halfway competent they’d be leading by quite a few

Guess the question is, who's going to replace Bruce after this season?

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

If the go cats were even halfway competent they’d be leading by quite a few

Guess the question is, who's going to replace Bruce after this season?

Don't you know after he wins 2 conference games he's getting a 4 year extension.

Where's Steve Henson? Maybe they should go after someone like that who was on some really good KSU teams and understands what it means to be a Wildcat. I really want the rivalry to return.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

Arkansas is trying to let KSU sneak back in this one.

If Arkansas was playing ANYONE other then K-State last night really good chance they get beat , was NOT impressed with them , just good enough to beat Brucie

Wisconsin up 38-18 on #11 Houston. Oof

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Wisconsin up 38-18 on #11 Houston. Oof

Wisc only up 3 now

@KirkIsMyHinrich Johnny Davis show today. 30 points, 4 boards, 4 assists, 4!! steals, 2 blocked shots, only 1 foul.

I'm a bit excited right now and didn't expect to be so.

Brruuuuuce giving Illinois all they want. Ya could’ve been a Jayhawk, Kofi.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Brruuuuuce giving Illinois all they want. Ya could’ve been a Jayhawk, Kofi.

He will cook anywhere, but he would have absolutely put up insane numbers under Bill.

I'm sorry but K- State is just sad. Sure they hung around a bit but that was more Illinois screwups nothing K-State did really , Illinois allowing them to hang around, Did ANYONE her e really think K- State was gonna win this game ? - -I sure the hell didn't

I mean can someone please tell me what kind of offensive sets K-State runs ? I mean really cause I'm not seeing much of run , or do they run an offense ? - All I saw was a lot of one on one and jack a 3. Most the time it was Pack or Smith jacking it up - -a couple of dribbles no signs of an offensive set being run at all just throwing it up. They actually played better last night then tonight. -Just think myself it's gonna be another long year for Bruce , & probably his last yr too.

Oregon geteting worked over right now pretty good by St Marys down 14 with 12 minutes to go

UCLA will miss Cody Riley in this game, but I'm still going UCLA by 5.

Fully prepared for Gonzaga to win by 20 now.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

UCLA will miss Cody Riley in this game, but I'm still going UCLA by 5.

Fully prepared for Gonzaga to win by 20 now.

Isn’t Cody Riley past his prime now?

I kid but wow he seemed old when he got there

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

UCLA will miss Cody Riley in this game, but I'm still going UCLA by 5.

Fully prepared for Gonzaga to win by 20 now.

Okay forget this. I was wrong

If we ever get Gonzaga in the tourny, I think we should play mostly really small. Dave can’t score on or stop Chet. Jalen can play the PJ Tucker kind of physical and undersized 5 man where Chet would have to chase him around all day. Ditto Timme and Och or Braun. We can’t stop them anyway. Might as well try our best to score more

I don't know who matches up well with Gonzaga. Maybe Purdue or Baylor? We definitely do not.

I honestly thought UCLA would come out strong, even without Riley, given the memory of last year's game. Not showing much of anything. At least they stopped the bleeding...for now.

Gonzaga. Jesus!

Nobody can matchup with Chet in the College game. Just the reality

I'm tellin you not gonna lie , just straight up I didn't watch the entire thing but when I was - -Gonzaga looked Scary god at long periods of times - -smooth as silk I dunno who match up with that

Time to call Joey Buttafuoco

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Nobody can matchup with Chet in the College game. Just the reality

Lol... I eat my words. You're right. The guy is bigtime skilled. Jesus, when he gains weight and muscle, look out!

Well I know people aren't going to want to hear this--- may not agree with this but I have to say it anyways - I think this year that Kentucky might just be some better then last year. , actually quite a bit better , hey I'm not to proud to admit it -- they better - - they better that's all. - -It's gonna be a pretty good match up when we meet them in the Bi2 12/Sec challenge. Of course they are already starting with the whiner excuse if we win, How the Refs favor us so badly at the Phog - -they are already getting that out there 5 on 8 they said. - Talking about how at least 2-3 of there guys will be in foul trouble by the 1st TV time out lol

Tarleton hung tough with Michigan.

ISU lookin good with a real coach.

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Well I know people aren't going to want to hear this--- may not agree with this but I have to say it anyways - I think this year that Kentucky might just be some better then last year. , actually quite a bit better , hey I'm not to proud to admit it -- they better - - they better that's all. - -It's gonna be a pretty good match up when we meet them in the Bi2 12/Sec challenge. Of course they are already starting with the whiner excuse if we win, How the Refs favor us so badly at the Phog - -they are already getting that out there 5 on 8 they said. - Talking about how at least 2-3 of there guys will be in foul trouble by the 1st TV time out lol

Kentucky - so far, from what I've seen - is tougher than last year. And they had damn well better be, with that lineup? Sorry, I've never been impressed with Cal as a coach, just haven't - Top 5 classes every year but laying yet another egg?

How about them Badgers?

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

Tarleton hung tough with Michigan.

ISU lookin good with a real coach.

Iowa State got a nice win

Holy shit, refs just shit housed UConn. They are now down 1 to MSU after a terrible call.

@BShark Msu benefited from some strange ones yesterday too including a guy and the floor getting up with the ball and beginning to dribble… and scoring.

Bama down in flames against Iona. No "chalk" final for this tournament.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

Bama down in flames against Iona. No "chalk" final for this tournament.

might be a good thing if we play like we did today. gotta do better

KU was good today when it mattered. Not remotely worried as it was a 20 point win before putting in the walk-ons.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

Bama down in flames against Iona. No "chalk" final for this tournament.

I don't like that because Alabama was probably going to be the only ranked team KU played before conference play started. This is going to end up being a pretty weak non-confernce schedule for KU.

I'm with you it would have been a more interesting test athletically.

Kind of bummed that Alabama lost because now we don't get to play them. But also lol Alabama

Michigan St winning today was nice. Also happy to see Dan Hurley lose. Can't stand that guy

@KirkIsMyHinrich it might've been nice for our RPI, but the refs took that game from UConn

Flo Thamba the new floppa for Baylor. Keeping the torch alive for Vital

I think I want Baylor to win because we play them at least twice and they're in the B12, but I wouldn't be devastated if Michigan St won today

UNT is rolling Miami. Could Larrañaga's days be numbered? His last winning season and tournament appearance was 2017-18.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

UNT is rolling Miami. Could Larrañaga's days be numbered? His last winning season and tournament appearance was 2017-18.

North Texas is fuego from 3. Thank God we dodged that bullet

@KirkIsMyHinrich I love the way Bill has this team defending threes. They don't always execute it and it's my main worry about Zach (we can't execute it at all with him in there and gave up open looks when he played) but the plan is very good.

I mean listening to Self's comments this season, he seems to be preaching defense. I still thought we gave up some pretty wide-open looks from 3 to North Texas.

The goal is to switch everything with most line-ups. Bobby is also lost on D still. Our best line-up currently is Remy, CB, Och, Jalen, Dave or Mitch. When Dave is right mentally it's him. There is probably a small gain defensively with Dajuan over Remy in that line-up but it loses a lot on offense. Opposing coaches are going to ask their players to just completely ignore Dajuan. He gets into a good position and most players in college basketball would score and then he doesn't even take the shot.

The defense is not nearly where it will need to be to beat good teams. Rebounding especially is another big issue. Good problems to have because both tend to get locked in as we go

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

The defense is not nearly where it will need to be to beat good teams. Rebounding especially is another big issue. Good problems to have because both tend to get locked in as we go

Agree. I am more worried when we can't score and the offensive efficiency of this team is pretty damn good when they don't turn it over (or give Dave the ball currently).

Rebounding is...well Remy led the team in rebounds yesterday. CB and Jalen I think will be our main rebounders. Dave is just terrible at it.

Baylor pulling away. Kind of looks like our game against MSU.

Larranaga heard you @BShark

Yeah Sparty thought the game was 20 minutes

During the Baylor-MSU game, the 2022 Atlantis field was announced and KU will be headed out there with Butler, BYU, Dayton, NC State, Tennessee, USC, and Wisconsin. That's a damn good field.

Christie came to College with a big time rep for shooting and he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn in every game I've seen of him

@Texas-Hawk-10

Definitely a good field

The game ahead of ours, Miami-UNT is tied at 59 with about 3 minutes left.

And Charlie Moore apparently is still around at Miami and scored their final two points and had 16 total today.

Baylor looked really good today, especially in the 2nd half.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

The defense is not nearly where it will need to be to beat good teams. Rebounding especially is another big issue. Good problems to have because both tend to get locked in as we go

Agree. I am more worried when we can't score and the offensive efficiency of this team is pretty damn good when they don't turn it over (or give Dave the ball currently).

Rebounding is...well Remy led the team in rebounds yesterday. CB and Jalen I think will be our main rebounders. Dave is just terrible at it.

Dave is terrible at everthing right now

The Big 12 is going to be a great battle this year between Kansas, Baylor, and Texas.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

The Big 12 is going to be a great battle this year between Kansas, Baylor, and Texas.

Agree - - gonna be a real dog fight between those 3

@KirkIsMyHinrich really think UCONN would have been able to matchup better. Had the athletes to compete.

Good grief more fts

KU women only down 3 at halftime to Tennessee.

Pretty easy to figure out why KU women lost tonight bad formula : - -you shoot 30.8 fg % -- turn the ball over 15 times - - get out rebounded by 17 and Tennessee gets 13 more shot attempts. - -Any time a team can get up right at 80 shots in a game good chance of winning Tennessee shot 78 times, not gonna win very many playing like that lost 68-58

@jayballer67 It's actually pretty impressive the women only lost by 10 to a team like Tennessee considering how bad they've been in recent years.

Duke hot.

Bill would pull Banchero right about now because of defense or something.

Holmgren is special but I think Banchero should get drafted over him. I don’t trust the health of a 7’0 195 dude. Who knows how putting weight on will go for that frame?

All I know is both of these teams would whoop our ass if we played today.

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

Holmgren is special but I think Banchero should get drafted over him. I don’t trust the health of a 7’0 195 dude. Who knows how putting weight on will go for that frame?

He can put plenty of weight on his frame. He should be able to get to 240-250 easily without much drop-off in athletic ability.

Gonzaga not invincible.

Duke proof you don’t have to have to play through a post player just because they’re 6’10

Say what you want about K.

He put Timme in ball screens. He let the hot hand shoot. He outcoached Few.

Frustrating to watch coaches play to strengths rather than to a system.

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

Gonzaga not invincible.

Duke proof you don’t have to have to play through a post player just because they’re 6’10

Except Duke mostly did because their guards weren't good most of the game and only went away from Banchero because of his cramps and he was off the floor. When Banchero was out there, Duke absolutely played through Banchero.

Looked like two Final Four teams out there. I feel like the Zags were the big winners tonight because they will feed off of this lesson even though Duke will carry momentum forward. Fun game to watch.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 It's actually pretty impressive the women only lost by 10 to a team like Tennessee considering how bad they've been in recent years.

Thats rule as I believe Tennessee is ranked 11th , t5hey have played pretty well it's always interesting how they will stand up when they go aginst quality opponents. Last Night was their 1st - -although they stayed right there most of the game

Wow, how did ESPN make that happen?

Surprised no one mentioned Iowa State over #9 Memphis!

@mayjay said in Non-KU Games:

Surprised no one mentioned Iowa State over #9 Memphis!

Oh lordie , I watched most the 1st half. Just means one more team we gonna have to battle this yr - - He got ISU turned around quick - -Still un beaten

Bruce Weber
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Don't ever change brucie

LMAO - -that's just funny right there - - I don't care who you are as Larry the Cable Guy would say - - gotta love ya some Brucie

@Crimsonorblue22 Well, I give him credit for at least making it about a cat. Not a Wildcat, to be sure, but a video with the actual KSU mascot might scare the little kids.

Zags are struggling (for now) 12-16 at the under 8 timeout.

Our friends at Tarleton State are making a stand in Spokane. Only trail Gonzaga by 1 at the half. Texans already have 7 steals.

@nwhawkfan sounds like Billy G has his boys balling out!

Bulldogs pull away late, 64-55.

First scare they're had at The Kennel in quite a while. It's their lowest point total there in over five years.

@nwhawkfan like us, they have major chinks in their armor. They are not a Final Four team imo.

Banchero gets a huge break from the refs. Flagrant 1 not called. Have I ever mentioned I think Duke gets an inordinate number of fouls?

Good job, Ohio St.

Number One loses again.

Looks like this is gonna be one of those years when no team stays in the top spot for long.

And down goes Duke! Roller coaster week for OSU. Nice comeback win for the buckerooos.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

And down goes Duke!

Of all happy words of tongue or pen the happiest are these “And down goes Duke!”

• John Greenleaf Whittier.

@tis4tim said in Non-KU Games:

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

And down goes Duke!

Of all happy words of tongue or pen the happiest are these “And down goes Duke!”

• John Greenleaf Whittier.

So Ohio State beat Duke last night ? - - I watched the 1st Half and Duke towards the end of the 1st half was up by 9. - -If this is right then I KNEW I should of watched the whole game but tired

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Banchero gets a huge break from the refs. Flagrant 1 not called. Have I ever mentioned I think Duke gets an inordinate number of fouls?

LOL ya , & I think your not THE ONLY ONE that feels that way lol. Seem like Duke get's a lot a funky calls going their way

My friend just texted me from LSU-Ohio game in Baton Rouge. It's 14-0 LSU 8 minutes into the game.

LSU ticket prices for the game were 1$. Not stubhub, walk up to ticket window and buy a ticket for a buck. How are they going to pay Brian Kelly all that money if they're selling tickets for a dollar for a basketball game?

UNC up 2 at half against Meeeechigan

Lol ASU lost to Wazzu 51-29 in what I first thought was a makeup football game

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

UNC up 2 at half against Meeeechigan

Question is will it hold ? - -My thoughts are Michigan wins this game. Carolina hasn't really taken the College Basketball world by storm yet this year.

You know Bacot to me has been a bit of a disapointment - -just hasn't quite played up to his billing or consistently anyways , just thought he would be a little more

Memphis lost to the 3-5 fighting Tom Creans

triple OT in Raleigh on ESPNU TVTed starring as the referee. They're only playing still because NCState, leading by 1 fouled a guy with 2 seconds left who was 7o feet from the basket.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

triple OT in Raleigh on ESPNU TVTed starring as the referee. They're only playing still because NCState, leading by 1 fouled a guy with 2 seconds left who was 7o feet from the basket.

Onto 4!

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Lol ASU lost to Wazzu 51-29 in what I first thought was a makeup football game

Wonder what Remy's thinking 'bout that

UNC is looking really good.

@rockchalkwyo said in Non-KU Games:

UNC is looking really good.

Caleb Love especially. Always held out hope the rumors of him transferring (hopefully here) would turn out true

Badgers clinch BIG ACC challenge. Count was 7-2 before a bunch of teams choked it away and it was up to UW which held off a pretty tough Georgia Tech.

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

Lol ASU lost to Wazzu 51-29 in what I first thought was a makeup football game

Wonder what Remy's thinking 'bout that

This is a joke, right? 29 points? If so, goodbye Bobby very soon.

@Marco

They scored 10 in the first half, 19 in the 2nd. Sorry to the fans that had to watch that

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

They scored 10 in the first half, 19 in the 2nd.

Best spin for their coach going forward: Hey, we almost tripled our score in the second half!

@mayjay said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

They scored 10 in the first half, 19 in the 2nd.

Best spin for their coach going forward: Hey, we almost tripled our score in the second half!

You got it!

Fizzou loses to the Liberty Flames, 66-45. The Tigers shot 28.6% from the floor.

@Gorilla72 Not sure I could think of a more loathsome match-up.

@Gorilla72 said in Non-KU Games:

Fizzou loses to the Liberty Flames, 66-45. The Tigers shot 28.6% from the floor.

Missouri is trash this year.

St. Mary's and Utah St. is a pretty good game. 2 point Gaels lead with just under 2 minutes left.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

@Gorilla72 said in Non-KU Games:

Fizzou loses to the Liberty Flames, 66-45. The Tigers shot 28.6% from the floor.

Missouri is trash literally every single day of every single week of every single year of every single decade of every single century.

FYP

Mark Turgeon has resigned at Maryland and Danny Manning has been named the interim coach for the remainder of the season.

that just came across my screen.Kind of surprising - -to me at least. - -Was he under heat ?

@FarmerJayhawk said in Non-KU Games:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

@Gorilla72 said in Non-KU Games:

Fizzou loses to the Liberty Flames, 66-45. The Tigers shot 28.6% from the floor.

Missouri is trash literally every single day of every single week of every single year of every single decade of every single century.

FYP

Don't hold nothing back buddy - -say what you really think about them lmao - -just let it go lol don't be shy

I think it said him and the AD came to an understanding.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

I think it said him and the AD came to an understanding.

surely thisisn't the last we se of Turg do you think ? - -I think he will land somewhere

Didn't see this post about Turgeon, so I posted it in Past Jayhawks with links.

@jayballer67 oh yeah. He’ll land somewhere. Kinda surprised. Thought he was well liked there

@Oldmanhawk said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 oh yeah. He’ll land somewhere. Kinda surprised. Thought he was well liked there

Near universal hatred from the fanbase recently. He was being booed at home games.

@BShark wow!! I didn’t know that

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2021/11/20/marquettes-tyler-kolek-fans-taunt-west-virginia-take-me-home-country-roads/8699127002/ ↗

@Oldmanhawk said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark wow!! I didn’t know that

Their reaction to the firing, XD

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/board/56/Contents/omg-we-did-it-177151985/?page=1 ↗

KU volleyball knocked off Creighton tonight to advance to the Sweet 16 of the women's volleyball tournament. They will take on the winner of the Pitt/Penn St. match.

There's a horrible game on ESPNU right now between 0-6 Robert Morris and 1-6 UW Milwaukee. What's fascinating about it is UWM has a probable OAD playing. Patrick Baldwin was one of the top ranked guys in his class, and instead of going to the usual schools he stayed home because UWM's coach is his dad. He's missed 3 games so that might explain their 1-6 record but it is still a pretty bad looking team.

Every time I see Sunrise I am convinced KU is much better off with Gradey Dick than Mark Mitchell.

Alabama just taking Gonzaga to the wood shed at the half up 16 . Shackleford with 20 for Alabama. - - Holgrem might be good but he HAS to bulk up - -skinny as a rail gonna get bullied around and has been

Bye Zags

Was wondering how the Zags would adapt to an unfamiliar court at Seattle's new arena. Not too well, as it tuns out.

Technically a neutral site though the crowd was mostly pro-Bulldogs.

Good day to be a Crimson Tide fan I guess.

Gonzaga just got out played. - -Alabama looked pretty good tonight

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

Was wondering how the Zags would adapt to an unfamiliar court at Seattle's new arena. Not too well, as it tuns out.

Technically a neutral site though the crowd was mostly pro-Bulldogs.

Mostly ? lol

Zaga was 13-25 from the FT line.

Is Iowa St good?

Iowa State in a ugly - -ugly game with Creighton

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Zaga was 13-25 from the FT line.

Is Iowa St good?

Ugly game with Creighton. - with like 9 minutes to go in the 1st half it was like 11-9 Creighton 23-23 at the half

Dr. J. anyone? 🐦 View Tweet?s=20

Not impressed w/holmgren! Alabama has great guards

The same Alabama team that lost to Iona. There might not be one team far and above the rest this year.

@Crimsonorblue22 They have a top 10 guy coming off the bench at guard, must be nice.

@BShark

Proof the very nature of the game allows a hot team to beat a better team.

Self has the right term here... "margin for error." Also means "margin for opposition hotness." You just won't hear Self use that term because he wants his fellas taking total responsibility on the floor.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

The same Alabama team that lost to Iona. There might not be one team far and above the rest this year.

@Crimsonorblue22 They have a top 10 guy coming off the bench at guard, must be nice.

Shackleford and Quinerly both had really good games. Holgrem no matter how good he is - -is going to be exposed/bullied in certain situations til he gets in the weight room. If Anyone I think Baylor once again can pose a serious that to the run

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Dr. J. anyone? 🐦 View Tweet?s=20

Mercy - - -very sweet

@BShark Purdue will be the flavor du jour until someone knocks them off and people say 'see, we told you about them'.

Was really glad OSU knocked Duke down so we don't have to listen to it non-stop about that team and K's farewell tour.

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark

Proof the very nature of the game allows a hot team to beat a better team.

Self has the right term here... "margin for error." Also means "margin for opposition hotness." You just won't hear Self use that term because he wants his fellas taking total responsibility on the floor.

This KU team can get up by or down by double digits against just about anyone I think lol.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark Purdue will be the flavor du jour until someone knocks them off and people say 'see, we told you about them'.

Was really glad OSU knocked Duke down so we don't have to listen to it non-stop about that team and K's farewell tour.

Purdue looks very solid for sure. Not unbeatable but very good. Hard to hang with what they can throw at you down low and the Ivey kid is about as good a guard as they have had under Painter.

The ladies beat Vandy today , strong 2nd half - -1st half not pretty trailing by 9 at the half - - - Final 74-67 - -but mercy there were some strange/bad calls it seemed on our Big 6'6 post player just very questionable , BUT we won - - NOW 7-1 on the Season , our only loss coming against # r0 ranked Tennessee , was competitive that game ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Anybody watching ksu wsu?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

Anybody watching ksu wsu?

who is winning espn plus ?

Wow Washington forfeited to UCLA bc of Covid today

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

Wow Washington forfeited to UCLA bc of Covid today

ya I read the article on that today on Espn. - -It said if the two College's can't agree on a subistute day then the effected team has to forefit and the opposing team is credited with a win. - -It said overall it doesn't effect I guess deteriming for Torney

I know I will be in the huge minority here probably ad I understand that , and I do understands others positions on it - but I really do wish we would play Wichita State.

I know we really don't have anything to gain really but I think it would be fun have some interesting match ups and just play - makes us look like the aggorant big brother by not refusing to play, and I agree like maybe possibly a 3 game agreement even play them One at the phog - - one on a neutral and one at their place - -were good enough - -why not?

@jayballer67 espnu

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 espnu

Thank you - - yes I found it kinda of enjoying actually

boy WSU throwing up some really bad shots - - long shots mercy. - -haven't scored in like 6 minutes in the 2nd half and still lead by 1 a lot of questionable shots by both teams

K-State 4-21 shooting in the 2nd half - -just torrid shooting lol - - WSU 5-15 not much better , 44-43 with like 8 minutes to go

Ksu won. WSU not disciplined

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Non-KU Games:

Ksu won. WSU not disciplined

no they weren't they were not working clock at all very un disciplined at least tonight they were

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

This KU team can get up by or down by double digits against just about anyone I think lol.

Absolutely correct and can do it in lightning speed... especially as we start pushing up the tempo!

I am soooo ready for Self to push these guys to up the tempo! I know it takes practice to become efficient... but I think by conference time we will be pushing the pace more than now!

Texas Southern gets its first win of the year (1-7) at Florida (6-2). 69-54. Florida was a 23.5 pt favorite. 🤔

@Gorilla72 LOL Fraudida loses to a winless SWAC team. SEC sucks!

Whistle every time down the court in this Illinois Iowa game. Of the Iowa coach throws a Frantrum on every whistle. Easiest the whiniest annoyingest coach I've ever seen. Kofi 18 points, 18 boards so far, 4 minutes left. Illinois by 10

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Whistle every time down the court in this Illinois Iowa game. Of the Iowa coach throws a Frantrum on every whistle. Easiest the whiniest annoyingest coach I've ever seen. Kofi 18 points, 18 boards so far, 4 minutes left. Illinois by 10

getting ready to comment on Kofi - insane beast

Texas Tech took #13 ranked Tennessee to OT and won 57-52. Similarly OU lost in OT to Butler.

Tonight UConn goes to West Virginia, Utah faces TCU & Shaka Smart goes to Manhattan to face Bruce Weber

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

This KU team can get up by or down by double digits against just about anyone I think lol.

Absolutely correct and can do it in lightning speed... especially as we start pushing up the tempo!

I am soooo ready for Self to push these guys to up the tempo! I know it takes practice to become efficient... but I think by conference time we will be pushing the pace more than now!

This team doesn't have the defensive abilities to play as up tempo as a lot of people want to.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

This KU team can get up by or down by double digits against just about anyone I think lol.

Absolutely correct and can do it in lightning speed... especially as we start pushing up the tempo!

I am soooo ready for Self to push these guys to up the tempo! I know it takes practice to become efficient... but I think by conference time we will be pushing the pace more than now!

This team doesn't have the defensive abilities to play as up tempo as a lot of people want to.

They have no choice but to. The skillsets of our players demand an up-tempo run style, the D feeding off that. We don't have the enforcer(s) inside to play mostly half-court sets. We don't. The frontcourt depth and talent is coming next year (and I think Cam Martin will surprise), but this year it's just not there.

WOW!!! Badgers losing by 22 near the end of the first half to Indiana. Badgers win by 5! Indiana has lost 19 in a row in Madison which is as much a testament to Wisconsin's prowess in the sport as it is Indiana's struggles to hold on to relevancy in the game. I'm actually pretty fired up right now!

West Virginia holds on to beat UConn despite shooting 12-27 from the FT line. B12-BE now tied 3-3. KState is probably going to lose though.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Never count out a team playing against a Shaka coached squad.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

West Virginia holds on to beat UConn despite shooting 12-27 from the FT line. B12-BE now tied 3-3. KState is probably going to lose though.

Great Foreshadowing, K-St lost of course.

@wissox

You see Kobe King played his first game in 2 years for Valpo.

Way to go Big 12: Texas Tech and W. Virginia knocking off ranked non-conference opponents this week. Texas plays Seton Hall tonight, so another chance for some non-conf cred.

@stoptheflop

Iowa St plays Iowa tonight as well.

Saturday 9-0 Arkansas comes to Norman to play OU

Sunday Villanova plays Baylor in Baylor.

@BeddieKU23 Yes. In fact Valpo has two other former Badgers. When I saw they played EW University I had to look it up and was surprised to see it was just up the road from my house. It's a 15-20 story building in the south downtown area of Chicago right on Michigan ave. The school doesn't even have a formal athletic department as far as I could see. The basketball page had a notice "Tryout for the basketball team". They play a schedule of local D3, juco's and small schools that really don't have any sort of athletic affiliation.

This Jonny Davis is turning heads in Madison. No foul called on this posterizer on Indianas superstar who scored 9 points last night.
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@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

This Jonny Davis is turning heads in Madison. No foul called on this posterizer on Indianas superstar who scored 9 points last night.
🐦 View Tweet?s=20

Yeah Davis has been terrific so far this year. Looking like a future leaguer

decided to watch a little College ball last night turned on the Game with West Virginia and U Conn - -didn't see much of the game - -BUT did get to see some muggings break out lol

@jayballer67

That was an ugly game. UConn was without their best player and it made a big difference in the game late

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67

That was an ugly game. UConn was without their best player and it made a big difference in the game late

your right. I mean mercy there was times it looked more like a football game. So many times bodies crashing into one another , guys stumbling , loose ball handling it was a ugly game for sure

So a couple of things. 1st watching Teas and Seeton Hall question so do we pull for Texas as a member of the Big 12 - - - OR do we wanna see the runners to the SEC get their butts kicked lol.

I"ll tell ya Tre Williams , Marcus Carr , & Andre Jones are going to cause some headaches sometimes during the year.. Question where did Tim Allen come from ? - is he a transfer ?

Iowa St and Iowa going ar it later. Should be interesting

Just caught the last 4 minutes of the UT game. Really poor execution by the Longhorns down the stretch to lose by 4....

Purdue struggling with Rutgers. Probably going to win, but not a rout either.

Big Ten network if you want to see the end

WOOWWWWWOOOWWWWWWW RON HARPER HALF COURT BUZZER BEATER CAPS LOCK IS BROKEEEHOLLLYYYYYCOWWWWWWW

And yet another Number One goes down.

So NOW who's the best team out there? Beats the hell outta me.

Baylor has to get by Villanova this weekend. Duke doesn't play until next Tuesday after a two-week layoff.

I think Hilton is gonna be loud again this year after one year off. Iowa State blowing Iowa out right now 42-26 - league is gonna be rough road. you better be ready night in - - night out

Rutgers!

@DanR said in Non-KU Games:

Rutgers!

So, Ron Harper, Jr, scores 30 points (including the game-winner) to beat Purdue.

His dad, Ron Sr., scored 30 points 37 years ago this week to help his school (Miami, OH) beat Purdue. And eventually won 5 rings in the NBA playing with MJ and Shaq and a few others. (Thanks, ESPN)

Sounds like it will be a fun holiday season for the Harpers!

Iowa St beat Iowa by 20....:flushed_face:

And of course Texas lost to Seton Hall. Stupid Texas

Poor Purdue lol

Stunningly, Iowa St has arguably the best collection of quality wins of any B12 school at this juncture - Xavier, Memphis St, Creighton and Iowa. Overall, the B12 has had the best top to bottom non-conference results of any other conference by far - several wins against Power 5 schools and other quality wins (albeit not really top 10 types of wins), and relatively few bad losses.

How bad was Steve Prohm?

Auburn gets 4 years probation and Bruce Pearl is suspended 2 games

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32837077/auburn-tigers-men-basketball-placed-4-years-probation-bruce-pearl-suspended-2-games ↗

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Auburn gets 4 years probation and Bruce Pearl is suspended 2 games

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32837077/auburn-tigers-men-basketball-placed-4-years-probation-bruce-pearl-suspended-2-games ↗

Dam -man I dunno. I don't get a good feel for this thing they trying to nail us on

@BeddieKU23 As Mr. Glass-Half-Full-Guy, I want to believe that if the NCAA only gave Pearl a two-game slap on the wrist, KU might get off pretty lightly too.

Might be apples and oranges, but I'm hoping for the best.

DePaul outscores Louisville by 16 over the last 17 minutes to turn a 9 point deficit into a 7 point victory at Louisville. Any time Chris Mack loses a game I'm happy, but I'm also happy for DePaul.

Memphis loses to Murray State, 74-72. Four losses in a row. Penny Hardaway recently through the upperclassmen under the bus.

@Gorilla72 Wow, hope there's video of that!

@wissox Reading Penny's quotes certainly painted a pretty interesting picture of him, but only in my mind......... 💩

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

@BeddieKU23 As Mr. Glass-Half-Full-Guy, I want to believe that if the NCAA only gave Pearl a two-game slap on the wrist, KU might get off pretty lightly too.

Might be apples and oranges, but I'm hoping for the best.

And more importantly they got no post season ban.

@BeddieKU23 said in Non-KU Games:

Auburn gets 4 years probation and Bruce Pearl is suspended 2 games

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32837077/auburn-tigers-men-basketball-placed-4-years-probation-bruce-pearl-suspended-2-games ↗

Would be thrilled with this outcome

Badgers getting smacked rn

Watching sunrise, besides G Dick, who else is going to KU? Playing La lumiere

@Crimsonorblue22 just Grady. Mark Mitchell we were recruiting I believe.

@Kcmatt7 headed to Duke?

How many times now has Pearl been spanked? Surely that has something to do with it.

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

How many times now has Pearl been spanked? Surely that has something to do with it.

Dude has proven it is worth cheating. Like a baseball player and using steroids, the punishment is just not enough to deter cheating.

Read where Gonzaga's game with not sur which but with either Washington or Washington St has been cancelled due to covid. This marks the third straight game they have either had to Cancel or forefit not good for them

Yeah Washington should probably just cancel their season.

The best games being on at 9PM all season so far has been just a real bummer

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

The best games being on at 9PM all season so far has been just a real bummer

I'm too old for this shit. I will watch replays sometimes but obviously it is hard to avoid spoilers.

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

How many times now has Pearl been spanked? Surely that has something to do with it.

That's what I like about what Auburn received. To the NCAA he being the recruiting felon that he is - at every stop lol and they were straight out busted - Pearl and Auburn still didn't receive a postseason ban.

Tshibwe is balking out for Kentucky today. Dominating on the boards and in the post on both ends.

@benshawks08 said in Non-KU Games:

Tshibwe is balking out for Kentucky today. Dominating on the boards and in the post on both ends.

Huggins probably still mad about how this went down. Cal started poaching him and the kid from Iowa before the season even ended. :snake:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

@benshawks08 said in Non-KU Games:

Tshibwe is balking out for Kentucky today. Dominating on the boards and in the post on both ends.

Huggins probably still mad about how this went down. Cal started poaching him and the kid from Iowa before the season even ended. :snake:

still close at the half

ND up 1 against Kentucky with about 6 left. This would cap off a very nice day

Down 3?

ND beats UK - a good day indeed....

So how many all times wins are we at?

Also, OU beat Arkansas - another good win for the conference. These will help power rankings against conference foes...

@Crimsonorblue22 If you're talking about as a program I think we're at 2,331 and Kentucky is at 2,334. If you're talking about against Missouri we're at 175.

WOW , checking the UK boards , mercy there is blood in the water. A lot and I do mean a lot of people calling for Cal's head. I counted 17 different threads about time to move on from Cal - - -How Cal's offense is old - - -How Cal doesn't know how to call timeouts , on & on & on. I mean kind of surprising in a way these guys ARE HOT .

Talking about losing to a Norte Dame team that was 3-4 on the year and their 3 wins were against , - - Cal State Northridge , High Point , & Chaminade- -it's getting ugly in Lexington

B12 non-conference wins this year include: Xavier, Memphis St, Iowa, Creighton, Tennessee, UConn, Clemson, Mich St (twice), Utah, Fla, Arkansas, NC St, and a handful of other Power 5 wins. Interestingly, only Texas and KSU are without a really quality win, but neither has a bad loss...

Minnesota up on Michigan by 6 with under 4 minutes to go at Michigan

Really surprised how Norte Dame competed with Uk on the boards today. Kentucky has been out rebounding opponents by 20 - might be bad news for us gonna have to keep level when it comes time to play them

@KirkIsMyHinrich so down 3

@KirkIsMyHinrich thx, I always assume everyone knows what I'm talking about.

Wisconsin center Chris Vogt is from Mayfield, KY where the huge tornado hit.

Just suffocating defense by Baylor against Villanova in the 1st half. Wildcats have 9 points with 5 minutes to go....

@DCHawker said in Non-KU Games:

Just suffocating defense by Baylor against Villanova in the 1st half. Wildcats have 9 points with 5 minutes to go....

Yet people still wanna say Drew can't Coach. Maybe he can , Maybe he can't but tell you what he can do one or the other. - He either can Coach Or he can recruit. I think he does both. Serious contender for final four again. - Just wearing Villanova out right now 25-15 at half. Now true Baylor isn't exactly scorching the nets & Villanova better thank GOD their not

Purdue is in OT against NC State.

Iowa St. beat Jackson St. 47-37 today.

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Yet people still wanna say Drew can’t Coach.

Haven't heard that for a couple years.

Drew has a really good asst coach too. Surprised he's never taken a head job.

@mayjay said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Yet people still wanna say Drew can’t Coach.

Haven't heard that for a couple years.

oh it's still there hear it all the time couldn't be any far off. I mean the 6th rated team in the nation scores 36 points ! ! ! - - 36 points - I mean come on that defense is just insane - -Big 12 is gonna be really tough league race this yr

Baylor makes just 6-25 from 3 for the game and still wins by 21 over a top ten team. Wow. Villanova made just 6 2 pt shots the entire game.

Baylor's good again. I thought they would be better than they were ranked but I didn't know they would be this good. Thought the defense would drop off after Mitchell and Vital left.

Baylor is good, but our wings and guards will beat them.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Baylor's good again. I thought they would be better than they were ranked but I didn't know they would be this good. Thought the defense would drop off after Mitchell and Vital left.

their defense is pretty intense, I mean anytime you can hold the 6th ranked team in the Country to what 37 points for the game, that's Coached by a pretty dam good Coach himself - - - Jay Wright , then you have accomplished something. Plus this game is not flash in the pan either , that's just the way this group is night in - - night out.

I think at this stage of the Season between Ku & Baylor head to head - -I think it's a draw - KU winning at KU & Baylor winning at Baylor it's going to come down to how they do against the rest of the Conference. I'm more concerned with Baylor then I am Texas seen them both play multiple times. - - Texas is deep has a nice Big that can get out on the floor --they have jones & other nice pieces - BUT I think Baylor defense gives them the edge by some over Texas. - -It's gonna be a war

It should always be an eye-opener when Nova gets thrashed.

I bet the Zags are cr@pping bricks about now... hoping they don't do a repeat from last year in the FF. I haven't even seen Baylor yet... didn't see this game with Nova... but I bet they can smack down the Zags again.

I want to see Iowa State play. See how real they are.

I saw box score of okie state, no Bryce, did I miss something? Hip injury

@DCHawker said in Non-KU Games:

B12 non-conference wins this year include: Xavier, Memphis St, Iowa, Creighton, Tennessee, UConn, Clemson, Mich St (twice), Utah, Fla, Arkansas, NC St, and a handful of other Power 5 wins. Interestingly, only Texas and KSU are without a really quality win, but neither has a bad loss...

Was looking a bit more closely at the B12 non-conference record. Apart from a really solid list of quality wins, what is perhaps more remarkable is that conference teams have lost just a total of 14 times, and no one in entire conference has a really bad loss at this point. In fact, every loss thus far has been to a team with a winning record.

Arguably the "worst" losses thus far are KU to Dayton (7-4) and TCU to Santa Clara (7-4). No other team that has beaten a B12 team has more than 3 losses. "Good" losses include Gonzaga, Providence (10-1), Seton Hall (9-1), Arkansas (9-1), Xavier (9-1), Illinois (7-3) and Marquette twice (8-3).

Interestingly, 6 of the 14 losses are to Big East teams.

It's going to be a great conference season this year! And with the bottom of our league still being legit... the key will be to not lose to a trap game. Consistent play will be a huge plus this year and in that area I feel like we have an advantage because we have an experienced team with pretty good ball skills. Our TOs seem to stay within reason. Rebounding okay. Steals good. We are a team that does good on the possession chart.

I'm not even looking at a cumulative stat sheet. Just based on what I witnessed. I also like how we finish out on many steals.

This team should still continue to play slightly faster. I hope Jalen's game comes around and he helps speed us up. We should become masters at scoring off of secondary breaks. Tons of open treys!

Baylor is going to challenge us a lot more moving forward, every year! Drew has really put it together and his basketball environment may be the best in college basketball today.

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

It's going to be a great conference season this year! And with the bottom of our league still being legit... the key will be to not lose to a trap game. Consistent play will be a huge plus this year and in that area I feel like we have an advantage because we have an experienced team with pretty good ball skills. Our TOs seem to stay within reason. Rebounding okay. Steals good. We are a team that does good on the possession chart.

I'm not even looking at a cumulative stat sheet. Just based on what I witnessed. I also like how we finish out on many steals.

This team should still continue to play slightly faster. I hope Jalen's game comes around and he helps speed us up. We should become masters at scoring off of secondary breaks. Tons of open treys!

Baylor is going to challenge us a lot more moving forward, every year! Drew has really put it together and his basketball environment may be the best in college basketball today.

your right Jalen has to come around just like the announcers keep saying , they say Once Wilson comes around BUT we also are going to need more for Remy he hasn't really turned it up yet either. - I realize trying to fit in - -trying to do what Bill asaks BUT even Coach ha said Remy might be over thinking - we get those two on the same page then we gonna be that much better for sure.

I realize he is trying to get the ball to team mates to score but he is passing up some good looks - - looks when he is in the lane kicking out giving up 7 footer for 20 footers we need these two to help carry the load we need their help down the line somewhere 4 Scoreres are better then two - -just logic . we get both them averaging around 10 a game - -wee gonna be fine.

@jayballer67

A handful of positive tweaks with this team and they can be a FF-caliber team! It is not unrealistic to think this!

@drgnslayr said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67

A handful of positive tweaks with this team and they can be a FF-caliber team! It is not unrealistic to think this!

not at all very real chance of a final four. - -just got to get these two rolling we be fine

The power of celebrity, no matter how minor their celebrity status is. Chris Vogt, whom I mentioned above is a UW super senior who is from Mayfield, Kentucky. He started a gofundme that has already raised 60,000$. Keep in mind, the storm happened 5 days ago. Chris Vogt spent the first month of the season accumulating more fouls than points. He's a fouling big machine. But that sure the heck doesn't matter now when you look at how his heart matches his height.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

The power of celebrity, no matter how minor their celebrity status is. Chris Vogt, whom I mentioned above is a UW super senior who is from Mayfield, Kentucky. He started a gofundme that has already raised 60,000$. Keep in mind, the storm happened 5 days ago. Chris Vogt spent the first month of the season accumulating more fouls than points. He's a fouling big machine. But that sure the heck doesn't matter now when you look at how his heart matches his height.

Agree. We come together as a nation, @wissox I get you. Others might not but I do, so you are now doomed... Lol. Study history much? I've read your other posts.

Memphis is REALLY good on defense when they want to be. Up 18 on Bama

Saw former Jayhawk and future opponent, Jossell, had 28 for Stephen f Austin of the bench…

@benshawks08 I was reading his bio. He attended a HS near where I work his freshman year. I work with a woman who has the last name Jossell. I'll investigate if there's any connection.

Zags v. Tex. Tech at noon Saturday on CBS should be fun. Its played in Phoenix so Zags have to play a road game against a decent opponent. ESPN has the Zags favored by 8.5, but I'll be rooting for the Big 12. No one may say the Zags are still playing a soft schedule: Duke, UCLA and Alabama.

@stoptheflop no doubt there. He almost had to, if he wanted any quality opposition. Similar to Tark's situation during the UNLV heyday.

@stoptheflop said in Non-KU Games:

Zags v. Tex. Tech at noon Saturday on CBS should be fun. Its played in Phoenix so Zags have to play a road game against a decent opponent. ESPN has the Zags favored by 8.5, but I'll be rooting for the Big 12. No one may say the Zags are still playing a soft schedule: Duke, UCLA and Alabama.

I don't think anyone has ever really accused Gonzaga of playing a soft non-confernce schedule anytime in recent history. Now they're starting to be able to get some better teams coming to Spokane, but most of their highest profile non-confernce games are typically road or neutral court games. Seattle has typically been the closest they can get a major team to come play them.

Tech loses to Gonzaga. Tech got it close in the 2nd half, then Gonzaga pulled away. Tech was playing without Terrence Shannon, who's averaging 14.3 ppg this season. Probably closer if he plays.

TCU with a solid win road win against Georgetown. Georgetown is pretty bad but road games are hard.

Kentucky is crushing UNC by about 25 with about 10 minutes left.

Just to see the court, check out LSU against LATech. See Kenneth Lofton Jr, a wide body among wide bodies playing for tech. He's on some preseason lists. It's on CBS sports network

Baylor flopping around! Getting called too! They're good at that!

I'm surprised somebody doesn't have seizures looking at Oregon's court. Ugh

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Tech loses to Gonzaga. Tech got it close in the 2nd half, then Gonzaga pulled away. Tech was playing without Terrence Shannon, who's averaging 14.3 ppg this season. Probably closer if he plays.

TCU with a solid win road win against Georgetown. Georgetown is pretty bad but road games are hard.

I'll just go ahead and get this over with, think that Gonzaga is overrated - Sweet 16 tops.

Baylor comes from 10 down in the first half to beat Oregon. The Ducks aren't that good this year, but it's a true road win in a tough environment over the two time defending Pac 12 champs. It's pretty clear that the road to the B12 title now runs through Waco, not Lawrence. This from CBSSports:

"This victory over Oregon doubled as the 400th career win for Drew, a likely future Naismith Memorial Hall of Famer who has turned Baylor into an undeniable power. The Bears are now 64-6 in their past 70 games and on a 16-game winning streak that dates to last season. In that stretch, Baylor has beaten Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Houston, Michigan State, Oregon, VCU, Stanford, Arizona State and Villanova (twice). Incredibly, each of those wins has come by at least eight points."

Pretty remarkable run....

@DCHawker said in Non-KU Games:

Baylor comes from 10 down in the first half to beat Oregon. The Ducks aren't that good this year, but it's a true road win in a tough environment over the two time defending Pac 12 champs. It's pretty clear that the road to the B12 title now runs through Waco, not Lawrence. This from CBSSports:

"This victory over Oregon doubled as the 400th career win for Drew, a likely future Naismith Memorial Hall of Famer who has turned Baylor into an undeniable power. The Bears are now 64-6 in their past 70 games and on a 16-game winning streak that dates to last season. In that stretch, Baylor has beaten Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Houston, Michigan State, Oregon, VCU, Stanford, Arizona State and Villanova (twice). Incredibly, each of those wins has come by at least eight points."

Pretty remarkable run....

Baylor is the real deal for sure. The Conference is going to be a real Bear. - -Wait oh get it - - ( A real Bear ) lol - -really didn't mean for it to come out like that butttt - - figure this Baylor - - Texas - - Ku - and even to a lesser degree Iowa State , the real surprise team n the league. Amazing what happens when you get a real Coach - and then watch Texas Tech to beat a couple of the Contenders during the season - -nothing easy.

Then on a little side note, I hope some people aren't thinking this KU/Uk Big 12/SEC challenge is going to be east whether it's at the phog or not. - not even close to the team they were last year. Destroyed NCarol yesterday. - -TY TY , but the big question is who is going to stop oh hell big boy - -the transfer from West Virginia (Tischibue I know not even close on the spelling sorry & others going to have the Phog at it's best

@jayballer67 well we have 6 weeks until that game. We'll see how the teams look then.

Espn2 has Frank mason g league. Only has 8 mins left.

Bruce rocking the chin diaper while screaming at his players in registers only dogs can hear is peak Bruce

@FarmerJayhawk

Thank you for the expression that allows me to taste Bruce while also holding my ears! lol

So Alabama gets beat by Davidson 79-78 - -& Xavier loses to Villanova 65-55

Texas Tech & Texas both playing games this afternoon - -kind of different. - -Tech plays at 1

So you think Huggy is feeling really bad Oscar Tshiebwe left - -got away ?-- Lordy 14 points &- - -TWENT EIGHT - - -- -TWENT EIGHT rebounds and the game is not ove.

I'm afraid what the hell he going to do to us on the Boards not going to be pretty Mercy oh Mercy an Animal

Illinois-Misery. Go Illini! BTN just started.

Tennessee is 56 seconds from ending # 6 Arizona's undefeated Season they are up 4 possibly 5 if Fulkerson makes his free throw. - - -And Miss. . Arizona down 4 with 21 seconds to go. Arizona down 3 with 13.6 seconds to go. 74-71 - - - And DOWN goes Arizona 76---73 - -not undefeated anymore love it

Missouri is making 25% of their 3's on the season. That's good for 348th nationally! Kofi destroying human life on his way to the goal.

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

So you think Huggy is feeling really bad Oscar Tshiebwe left - -got away ?-- Lordy 14 points &- - -TWENT EIGHT - - -- -TWENT EIGHT rebounds and the game is not ove.

I'm afraid what the hell he going to do to us on the Boards not going to be pretty Mercy oh Mercy an Animal

KJ, I think, is our best matchup with that guy. Too bad KJ is a year away from big minutes

UCLA cancelled it’s 2nd consecutive game due to COVID infections. Next game vs. Arizona next week. Hopefully they’re totally recovered by then.

Duke losing to Virginia Tech in the early parts of the 2nd half. Only losing by 4 so the coach k retirement tour whistle will kick in i'm sure.

Couple days after leapfrogging KU in the AP Poll after beating the mighty mighty California Baptist, Arizona loses to Tennessee 77-73

@wissox watched while chatting with my tech buddy. They collapsed under dukes pressure second half.

@approxinfinity Ironically I checked back in the latter parts of the 2nd half and the first thing I heard was "Oh he got fouled and nothing was called". #coachkwhistle

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

So you think Huggy is feeling really bad Oscar Tshiebwe left - -got away ?-- Lordy 14 points &- - -TWENT EIGHT - - – -TWENT EIGHT rebounds and the game is not ove.
I’m afraid what the hell he going to do to us on the Boards not going to be pretty Mercy oh Mercy an Animal

We should do with him what we should do with every threatening rebounder we face.... everyone put a body on him. It's called "team rebounding" and it works when used. When a shot is going up everyone looks for that guy first to make sure he is sealed off.

Badgers had a game scheduled last minute with George Mason which is coached by familiar name Kim English. It was just cancelled as the Badgers too have the virus.

@wissox keep us posted on your symptoms, may they be mild!

@Crimsonorblue22 So far some loss of taste and a bit achy and fatigued. If COVID wasn't a thing I'd just think I had a minor bug or something.

I have it too, found out yesterday. Same symptoms as @wissox. Had I not been vaccined I would've undoubtedly been alot worse off than I am now, the shots basically turning it into a cold.

Never a good time to get it, but it really sucks having to isolate during the holidays. Bigtime bummer.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Crimsonorblue22 So far some loss of taste and a bit achy and fatigued. If COVID wasn't a thing I'd just think I had a minor bug or something.

hope all goes well for you buddy , you just take care and beat this thing. Hope doesn't last long for you, just take care

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

I have it too, found out yesterday. Same symptoms as @wissox. Had I not been vaccined I would've undoubtedly been alot worse off than I am now, the shots basically turning it into a cold.

Never a good time to get it, but it really sucks having to isolate during the holidays. Bigtime bummer.

Dam sorry to hear man , we got KU guys dropping like flies - -just take care of yourself and you'll beat this thing - -get well soon buddy

@Marco Did you lose your sense of taste? That's the worst as this house is full of once a year kind of stuff I can't hardly taste at all!

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Marco Did you lose your sense of taste? That's the worst as this house is full of once a year kind of stuff I can't hardly taste at all!

Not fully yet, but getting there. Was just diagnosed yesterday. It really sucks not being able to be around the rest of the family on Christmas. How long have you had it? Did they tell you the variant? They didn't tell me. Just said I was positive. And like a dummy I didn't even ask.

Girlfriend gave it to me, and like myself she is fully vaccinated with the booster. We've been pretty careful. Really, we have no idea where we got it.

I don’t remember Alondes Williams at Oklahoma:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4592216/alondes-williams ↗

@Marco I did a home test, so I have no clue if its the variant. Tried to get the test at a testing site. But symptoms including taste bud loss made it seem obvious I have it. I'm on my 3rd day of it.

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Marco Did you lose your sense of taste? That's the worst as this house is full of once a year kind of stuff I can't hardly taste at all!

Not fully yet, but getting there. Was just diagnosed yesterday. It really sucks not being able to be around the rest of the family on Christmas. How long have you had it? Did they tell you the variant? They didn't tell me. Just said I was positive. And like a dummy I didn't even ask.

Girlfriend gave it to me, and like myself she is fully vaccinated with the booster. We've been pretty careful. Really, we have no idea where we got it.

PCR tests don't determine which variant of Covid you have, only if the virus is present or not.

Ugh, sorry about the covid woes for some of you. No fun.
I must be a giant wimp...just got my booster shot the other night and it’s kicking my ass. Two days of 100+ fever, the shake rattle and rolls, headache, body aches, sweats, you name it. Sucks!

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

I don’t remember Alondes Williams at Oklahoma:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4592216/alondes-williams ↗

whats the deal with this guy ?

@jayballer67 he's completely tearing it up at Wake Forest.

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 he's completely tearing it up at Wake Forest.

is he wanting to transfer out or what ?

@jayballer67 no, I'm saying he was a non-factor at Oklahoma, went to WF and is All-ACC. Interesting to me.

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 no, I'm saying he was a non-factor at Oklahoma, went to WF and is All-ACC. Interesting to me.

Ahh hell I didn't even know he had played at Oklahoma lol

I'll be dang if it isn't starting to fall in place like I was afraid of. - -KU has now missed two games in a row because of the Covid , Vanderbilt & Stanfords game a Championship in a tourney was Canceled , Big East Cancelling games , SEC revising on how they are handling COVID games - - the ACC - - Duke just Cancelled their next two games because they are having COVID issues..

Other schools in the same boat. - - I'm just afraid we are starting to see a repeat of last year. True things have changed , I mean we have the shots now but still going to play havoc- -already is , Were going to find ourselves in a bunch of make up games -- -we have league starting - -theyre just not going to blow those games off - -gonna have to be played sometime. They have said with this latest strain the Omicron - not nearly as dangerous maybe hospitalization wise Death wise - -this strain ALOT mor Contagious ALOT easier spread - just worried as you can see things growing - -keeping fingers crossed

@approxinfinity

Just didn't gel last yr but was a highly touted Juco. Wake's coach is a pretty good developer of talent

TTech about to make the SEC go 0-4 in bowl games.

And the Missouri women just knocked off #1 South Carolina by 1 in OT. Missouri made the winning shot with 0.1 left in the game.

UCF men take down Michigan by 14, A nice resume win for our future conference-mate.

@nwhawkfan said in Non-KU Games:

UCF men take down Michigan by 14, A nice resume win for our future conference-mate.

very true. Plus you look at it not Basketball but our future conference team # 4 Cincinnati playing in the playoffs tomorrow night. - - good for them. Funny don't ssee Oklahoma there - - Don't see Texas there - -huh bodes well for the SEC

This dam COVID. 33 contests either Cancelled or postponed for today

Memphis just taking Wichita State to the wood shed & smacking that ass in Wichita at the half Memphis up 49 - - - -34

Texas beats WVU by 74-59.

Tristan Enaruna playing against Baylor right now.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Texas beats WVU by 74-59.

Tristan Enaruna playing against Baylor right now.

The Hilton support back for sure - -really loud, trying to bring the Hilton Magic. Mabe turn out to be a good game

@jayballer67 Could be. Hilton is a tough place to play, although maybe a bit easier without students there.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 Could be. Hilton is a tough place to play, although maybe a bit easier without students there.

ya it could be even harder with the team they got this year and students back. They have had some quality wins , but today is THE REAL TEST pretty competitive the first seven minutes

RANT. 4 Ohio State players quit on their team playing in the Rose Bowl today. They want to go get ready for the draft. What a bunch of entitled punks. Of course they're not the only ones, many lesser bowl games have seen similar attrition. But coaches are guilty too. Abandon your team when they get hired away to coach someone else. They receive a quality 5 year education (if they take advantage of it), financed by program boosters, essentially who say I will donate money to the school to watch you for 4 years. Then at a game that is always a decent consolation prize for not making the playoff they quit. They should be asked to repay their scholarship. While a few role players will benefit by increased minutes maybe the worst part of this is them quitting on their teammates. NCAA needs to act on this scourge. Schools need to be proactive in preventing this happening by making them sign contracts to agree to finish a season.

Tristan playing solid for Iowa St today - - 10 points at the half. Iowa State just can't get that one key stop to really put more pressure on Baylor. Down 8 at the half

Iowa State can JUST NOT get the key stop they need. keeps going from 8 - - to 6 - - -8 - - to 6. If they could get that stop put a little more pressure on Baylor. - Tristan doing really well 14 points

ISU is pretty damn good. Hanging with an elite Baylor team. If you told me right now they are better than KU I would listen.

Enaruna had a nice first half. We could have used him.

Enaruna 14, 6, 1, 1. Let the freshman play, Bill. Please

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Enaruna 14, 6, 1, 1. Let the freshman play, Bill. Please

Not what we needed this year and still wouldn't have played (cuz Och, CB, JWill) but he is a nice player.

@BShark I just mean that players can be good if you let them play through their mistakes. They could even be better than Lightfoot :astonished_face:

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

RANT. 4 Ohio State players quit on their team playing in the Rose Bowl today. They want to go get ready for the draft. What a bunch of entitled punks. Of course they're not the only ones, many lesser bowl games have seen similar attrition. But coaches are guilty too. Abandon your team when they get hired away to coach someone else. They receive a quality 5 year education (if they take advantage of it), financed by program boosters, essentially who say I will donate money to the school to watch you for 4 years. Then at a game that is always a decent consolation prize for not making the playoff they quit. They should be asked to repay their scholarship. While a few role players will benefit by increased minutes maybe the worst part of this is them quitting on their teammates. NCAA needs to act on this scourge. Schools need to be proactive in preventing this happening by making them sign contracts to agree to finish a season.

RANT. Fans who expect players to risk their financial future to play in a meaningless game are the entitled ones. They should be risking millions of dollars and potential generational wealth for what exactly? You? The irony of calling young men who worked their ass off for the opportunity of the NFL entitled, just so you can sit your butt on a couch and yell at your TV for three hours, is hysterical.

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

ISU is pretty damn good. Hanging with an elite Baylor team. If you told me right now they are better than KU I would listen.

ya I would say were gonna have our hands full with them

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

Enaruna 14, 6, 1, 1. Let the freshman play, Bill. Please

Not what we needed this year and still wouldn't have played (cuz Och, CB, JWill) but he is a nice player.

I would take him over Wilson at least from what I've seen between the two this year

Kind of like what has been said. You let them play - -Tristan 10 minutes a game at KU - 2.0 ppg - -here he is today getting extended time and has now scored 23 - -had 19 the last time out

ISU is 1-12 from 3. Hard to beat Baylor with no 3-pt ball.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Whew do they defend though.

Brutal back to back sequence for ISU.

1-14 from 3 and no students. Baylor doesn't need any advantages.

@Kcmatt7 Because it's all about the money. I'm pissed and sorry, but in this case i don't agree with you. I'm not the only one by the way. Kirk Herbstreet was taking them to task on gameday as was Desmond Howard.

Meaningless game? I guess but for that matter, none of these games matter if a guy wants to go pro. The game today is meaningless. Ochai has a brightening future in the league so he shouldn't play today because this game is meaningless. I can't believe you're a commenter here because none of these games have meaning if these guys are going pro.

If a guy really just wants to be a pro football player then he shouldn't go to college. Work out, train, etc until someone takes a chance on you, but once you take someones money like these guys are doing to play a college sport then you owe it to the institution, fans, and teammates to play out through the the final game.

Jermaine Samuels is still at Nova?? Dude has been in college since the Carter administration

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 Because it's all about the money. I'm pissed and sorry, but in this case i don't agree with you. I'm not the only one by the way. Kirk Herbstreet was taking them to task on gameday as was Desmond Howard.

Meaningless game? I guess but for that matter, none of these games matter if a guy wants to go pro. The game today is meaningless. Ochai has a brightening future in the league so he shouldn't play today because this game is meaningless. I can't believe you're a commenter here because none of these games have meaning if these guys are going pro.

If a guy really just wants to be a pro football player then he shouldn't go to college. Work out, train, etc until someone takes a chance on you, but once you take someones money like these guys are doing to play a college sport then you owe it to the institution, fans, and teammates to play out through the the final game.

The only reason that bowl games still exist after the installation of the playoffs is money lol. The season should be over for everyone except for Alabama and Georgia at this point. The rest of the bowl games are pure vanity.

Yes, all of these games are essentially meaningless. They are semi-pro athletes who happen to play at schools we love. If Ochai decided that what was best for him was to leave KU to go work on being a pro then by all means he should. And I'd wish him well. It is his choice, not yours or mine. Every single one of these guys has a limited earning period to capitalize on their youth and athleticism. So to criticize someone for doing what they think is best for them in their situation is pretty silly. If a player wants to play, they should. If they don't, then they shouldn't. Good luck to schools who are recruiting and asking players to sign a contract that has them pay back the scholarship if they leave one game early.

And I'm a commenter here because I love KU and KU basketball. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over the life choices of a 21 year old.

@Kcmatt7 I guess it reveals a mindset difference. If you think chase the bucks, fine, then let them. Again, leading voices in the sport are saying the same thing, so don't give me 'panties in a wad' crap. I suppose during our big chance in 2008 in a rare BCS bowl game you would have been fine if Reesing or Meier or Briscoe had quit. That's a shame and it would have been a horrendous slap in the face of the faithful fans who had stuck by the team so many years.

@wissox It seems that you are inflaming your anger with "what-if"s that didn't exist. 2008 didn't happen that way. Our bb team isn't doing that. So why get so exorcised about a fantasy disappointment?

Your rant is about 4 TOSU players cutting out of the Rose Bowl. I understand not liking that, but here's something else to think about: With Omicron running amock, 4 bowls were cancelled. Hundreds of players lost their last chance to showcase their talents. Millions of dollars in tickets and concessions lost, vendors deprived of sales, sponsors blown out of exposure that was years in the planning.... No one to blame, really, but a damn shame that few people even think about.

What, precisely, is lost because 4 guys don't play? Do we know the team was butt-hurt? The game goes on. Four guys are prepping for a huge step in their careers. They miss the chance to be seen. The game goes on. Nothing else is threatened.

I love the irony of Desmond Howard criticizing them for disrespecting their teammates. He may have forgotten the flak his "Hesiman pose" received from people who thought he was showboating and disrespecting the team aspects of football. I didn't care, myself. But arguably one of the most "me me me" moments in college fb history.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 I guess it reveals a mindset difference. If you think chase the bucks, fine, then let them. Again, leading voices in the sport are saying the same thing, so don't give me 'panties in a wad' crap. I suppose during our big chance in 2008 in a rare BCS bowl game you would have been fine if Reesing or Meier or Briscoe had quit. That's a shame and it would have been a horrendous slap in the face of the faithful fans who had stuck by the team so many years.

You literally got on here to rant. Almost the definition of having your panties wadded.

And my mindset isn’t to chase the money. It is that everyone should make their own decisions based on the information they have. You don’t know the situations that led players to make those decisions. Life is short and you shouldn’t feel that anyone owes you anything.

You can absolutely be disappointed if guys don’t play. But I’m definitely not going to be pissy about it because I am not in their shoes. I don’t know what making that decision is like. I don’t know their family or financial situation. We are talking about decisions involving generational wealth and life changing money for them AND those they love.

@mayjay Well I certainly know not to argue with a judge! But I'll do it anyways :) The comparison with games cancelled for Covid is much different in my view.

What's lost? OSU is getting killed. Imagine being an OSU fan who paid a bunch of money, maybe money that was a splurge to attend this game and then having four guys who apparently are great players decide to skip the game? I'd be pissed. Maybe me and Kirk and Desmond are the only ones mad about it. IDK. But like I told Matt it reveals a mindset difference. Loyalty to a school that helped get you to the NFL dream? Apparently that means nothing to guys who again in my view are self centered. Much more so than a posing Desmond Howard in a moment many view as an iconic moment in the games history.

Just saw the score. My reaction might be tinged by having attended Michigan....

@wissox look at Ben Simmons. He's a pain in the butt now. Breece Hall from wichita that plays for isu sat out their bowl game. Loyalty is not a big deal anymore to some people.

Is it a breach of contract? You sign a LOI to lace em up for whomever and they give you 5 years of education in exchange for playing for them. Then you tell them, sorry, I don't want to play for you anymore, even when it's a big game.

@Crimsonorblue22 Simmons played his full season. I really don't see why he's evidence that I'm wrong. Breece Hall, another piece of evidence. I understand loyalty is no big deal.

@Kcmatt7 How am I risking their financial futures? I know injuries happen, but then why play any games? I really don't get the push back on this. But somehow I've become the bad guy for suggesting a player should honor the commitment that people made to him and helped him get to the point that after today, they can go and chase their NFL dreams?

@wissox to me the mindset difference you are highlighting is which subset of people do you care about the most? You seem to favor the feelings and emotions of the fans. Those arguing against you are giving priority to the thoughts, feelings, and decisions of the players.

For me, you may very well be right that fans, commentators, donors, etc are upset by those young mens decisions. The players may have in fact just negatively impacted their future careers because there are undoubtedly people who think the same as you in positions of power in their futures.

BUT especially with football where every game has a negative impact on your future health, I’m going to in the end always fall on the side of the players. They are the ones risking their bodies, their futures, their careers with every decision they make on and off the field. If they are doing what they think is best than more power to them.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Is it a breach of contract? You sign a LOI to lace em up for whomever and they give you 5 years of education in exchange for playing for them. Then you tell them, sorry, I don't want to play for you anymore, even when it's a big game.

@Crimsonorblue22 Simmons played his full season. I really don't see why he's evidence that I'm wrong. Breece Hall, another piece of evidence. I understand loyalty is no big deal.

@Kcmatt7 How am I risking their financial futures? I know injuries happen, but then why play any games? I really don't get the push back on this. But somehow I've become the bad guy for suggesting a player should honor the commitment that people made to him and helped him get to the point that after today, they can go and chase their NFL dreams?

Ben Simmons didn't play the whole season for LSU. LSU was in the NIT that season and Simmons noped out of that tournament to prep for the NBA.

Sorry, but unless a school makes the CFP, it's common for schools to lose money on bowl games due to all the travel costs involved for housing players, the band, and cheerleaders in pretty nice hotels and not enough fans traveling to lower tier bowl games.

See Marcus Lattimore or Willis McGahee for why players will sit out bowl games I stead of risking injury. McGahee lost out in millions when his knee got destroyed in Miami's Fiesta Bowl game against Ohio St. when he was a guaranteed top 5 pick in the 2003 draft prior to his injury. Marcus Lattimore never played an NFL snap because of all the injuries he suffered at South Carolina.

This OU KSU game is making me question the utility of eyesight

@wissox not sure if you’d already seen this. A players perspective:

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Matt Corral is exhibit 1 about how opting out is smart. If he’s hurt enough to miss Draft prep that could be millions of dollars in lost earnings. I don’t love it but it’s clearly the smart decision.

It's interesting to me that I've read several commentaries and seen tweets that seem to indicate it's us old fuddy duddies that are mad about this and all the woke younger folks make silly memes telling us to stop yelling "stay off my lawn".

I do think that ESPN is culpable. They've created a zillion ridiculous bowls and I don't blame someone from leaving their 6-6 team playing on a blue field before Christmas for saying, yeah, sorry guys, I'm opting out. The age of the participation trophy has come to fruition. Most kids see through those stupid things. You all make some valid points but I think I do too.

@BeddieKU23 good catch on Ben Simmons. Forgot that was the case.

@wissox So, can I rest easy that since TOSU won and the B10 gets the Rose Bowl trophy, then those 4 players need not be hunted down, and the tar and feathers can be put away?

Yes! Quite a game out there.

@wissox Hey buddy...hope all is well! My response is I agree with you that players shouldn't be opting out of bowl games, but then I get to thinking: last game of NFL regular season, the playoff teams bench their starters...in the NBA, a gazillion players take the night off for "rest", MLB players get regular days off- some a ton of days off. Especially if they happen to be on my fantasy baseball roster. You're going to say...."BUT, they didn't quit on their team". And you'd be right... in a way. They aren't playing for all the marbles, though. If we start seeing teams in the playoffs begin to have guys checking out, then we will have a problem.

@Jethro The guys sitting in the NFL is a bit of a problem and it goes back to the fans who pay for tickets and then don't get to see who they paid to see. I experienced this disappointment this MLB season as a 20 game package ticket holder. Show up and guys are getting rested. Larussa sat 2 or 3 guys one game. I really don't know why MLB, or NBA players need rested. Like you play a game for 3-4 hours, do some warm ups, etc. What do you need to rest for? In MLB half of those hours you're sitting on the bench waiting to walk up to the plate and run at most 360 feet!

And for another take:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/01/college-football-players-will-keep-making-business-decisions-despite-those-who-would-rather-they-dont/ ↗

@approxinfinity said in Non-KU Games:

Enaruna had a nice first half. We could have used him.

Yeah, I wasn't pleased when Enaruna left.

@wissox players taking off for ten or 15 game stretches in the NBA while already getting paid and not even being injured, that I am not onboard with. I don't fault college players who skip bowls, unless it's the CFP. If were going to the NFL I wouldn't play in the Mayo Bowl.

@mayjay I liked his Heisman pose.

But Enaruna, the guy is balling. I'm glad to see it, just wish he would've been able to do it in Lawrence. Any word on Muscadin?

@mayjay What do you expect from a pro football site?

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@mayjay What do you expect from a pro football site?

And ESPN talking heads are going to rail against skipping bowl games because ESPN owns most of the mid and lower tier bowl games that players tend to skip on. ESPN has their own agenda when they criticize players for skipping out on bowl games.

@Texas-Hawk-10 True! But don't get me started on ESPN and their own agenda.

I guess pro football players are quitting on their teams in the middle of games now. Antonio Brown left the field at half time shirtless today and quit. Something is wrong with that guy. I wonder if it's CTE?

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

I guess pro football players are quitting on their teams in the middle of games now. Antonio Brown left the field at half time shirtless today and quit. Something is wrong with that guy. I wonder if it's CTE?

pathetically wrong, anyone else see that little episode ?

Johnny Davis putting on a show against Purdue tonight. Not sure it will offset officiating but he's been amazing.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

I guess pro football players are quitting on their teams in the middle of games now. Antonio Brown left the field at half time shirtless today and quit. Something is wrong with that guy. I wonder if it's CTE?

I would guess CTE is part of it, but I'm also guessing bipolar or something in that area of mental health issues as well.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah, he's got some issues that are kind of scary. I guess until he got dinked in the head in 2017 he really had zero issues. I feel bad making fun of him.

Have a game, Johnny Davis

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah, he's got some issues that are kind of scary. I guess until he got dinked in the head in 2017 he really had zero issues. I feel bad making fun of him.

He supposedly had some issues going on before the Burfict hit based on what the people with the Steelers have said at the time.

What a win for the Badgers. All 3 Wisconsin bigs foul out but Johnny Davis scores 37. Amazing game. 3rd ranked Boilers are 1-2 in the BIG!

Tuesday 6PM, Kentucky v. LSU in Baton Rouge. LSU fav'd by 2. Nice opportunity to gain an overall win against Kentucky with their loss and a win against Okie St. Fingers crossed, etc.

@wissox that guy has been a clown car for a long time. His being not all there not even in question, at this point. You like that Badgers' win did you?

LSU might be the best team in the country.

@BShark

Defensively maybe

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

LSU might be the best team in the country.

EHHHHHHHHHH , - -really not to sure about that. - -maybe I suppose but man I like Baylor. - like commentators have said , they might be better then LAST YEAR - - just loaded

@stoptheflop No one in Baton Rouge cares, 10 dollars will get you into the PMAC tonight against Kentucky. I didn't like living there very much but opportunities to see games like that for a low cost were one reason.

Heard K/State only got 7 players for tonight's game against Texas . Weber is in Covid protocol himself along with four players that play vital parts for them , the players in protocol are :Davion Bradford , Kaosi Ezeagu , Marquis Nowell , Trey Landers these guys play big parts fort them. - - the other three are Jordo Brooks , Maximus Edwards , & Trey Harris - - - Shane South Well will be the acting head Coach -- look out.

@BeddieKU23 Kentucky not scoring against LSU.

Just read it's going to be top two scorers in the country Thursday night in Madison when Iowa comes into town.

@jayballer67 - I see K-State is up at the half. 35-29. Surprising!

Oklahoma shot 68.2% in the first half and is losing by 9 to Baylor at halftime.

Plenty of empty seats at the Baylor game. I assume the students are still on break and Waco is pretty small, but who wouldn't want to see the #1 ranked team play at home? It just doesn't look good for Baylor or the Big 12.

Such a predictable flop for Baylor right when momentum was going OU way

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

LSU might be the best team in the country.

EHHHHHHHHHH , - -really not to sure about that. - -maybe I suppose but man I like Baylor. - like commentators have said , they might be better then LAST YEAR - - just loaded

Commentators can say what they will. No way in hell that Baylor is better this year than they were last.

@Gorilla72 said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 - I see K-State is up at the half. 35-29. Surprising!

Narrator: This did not last.

Honestly this LSU game is the most fun low scoring game I’ve watched in a long time

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

Honestly this LSU game is the most fun low scoring game I’ve watched in a long time

Probably helps how much I enjoy watching UK lose

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

LSU might be the best team in the country.

EHHHHHHHHHH , - -really not to sure about that. - -maybe I suppose but man I like Baylor. - like commentators have said , they might be better then LAST YEAR - - just loaded

Commentators can say what they will. No way in hell that Baylor is better this year than they were last.

more athletic

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

LSU might be the best team in the country.

EHHHHHHHHHH , - -really not to sure about that. - -maybe I suppose but man I like Baylor. - like commentators have said , they might be better then LAST YEAR - - just loaded

Commentators can say what they will. No way in hell that Baylor is better this year than they were last.

more athletic

That is true. And I tend to agree with you, Baylor is probably the best team in the country.

ESPN all over themselves trying to pump up the SEC. - -IF it's not the ACC it's the BIG - or the SEC anyone and everyone but the Big 12.

They ranting about the SEC having 5 teams in the top 21 - well news flash we have 5 teams in the top 225 - - Sooooo whz up ? - -Baylor # 1 -- -KU # 6 - - Iowa st # 11 - - Texas # 16 - - & Texas TEch # 25 right ? - -so think thats a draw

Iowa state just laying it to Texas Tech right now -- -19 - - 8. - -Tech has 8 points in the first 1:00 minutes of the game. - - not good

Who is the girl named Warren wearing the blonde pigtails, playing for Texas Tech? Did she play for them last year?

@Marco said in Non-KU Games:

Who is the girl named Warren wearing the blonde pigtails, playing for Iowa State? Did she play for them last year?

whaa ? lmao dam maybe I need to put my platinum down as I don't see no girl lmao

That is a whacked out do! Named Warren plays for Tech.

I'm sorry but this is the 2nd time I've watch a big 12 game and King Mclure was Color Analyst - -I don't think one of the best lol. - -well probably his 1st year

let me focus WHERE ? LOL I'm not seeing it lol

Tech only got 7 players cause of Covid

Well must be contagious , we aren't the only teams struggling to score. - - Iowa St 30 - - -Texas Tech 19 at the half - - WOWSHA . - -not even a point a minute. But also they missing their leading scorer Shannon and Mcoller not playing

Well guys guess we aren't the only ones. Iowa State went 9 minutes and like 38 seconds with no buckets to start the 2nd half. - they got to free throws but did not make a bucket for over 9 minutes.

The Score ? - you ready for this ? - -Iowa State - - 343 - - Texas Tech 26 with9 minutes and 20 seconds to go in the game

Wow Iowa State made just their SECOND bucket in the entire 2nd half with like 3:29 to go in the game. - - Iowa State 2-18 in the 2nd half. - Plus they got like 5 free throws in the 2nd half

Iowa State - - - - -40 to - - - -38 with 2:50 to go in the game - - NOT IN THE HALF - -Texas Tech 42 - - -Iowa State 40 left in the game

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Wow Iowa State made just their SECOND bucket in the entire 2nd half with like 3:29 to go in the game. - - Iowa State 2-18 in the 2nd half. - Plus they got like 5 free throws in the 2nd half

Iowa State - - - - -40 to - - - -38 with 2:50 to go in the game - - NOT IN THE HALF - -Texas Tech 42 - - -Iowa State 40 left in the game

ISU pulled out a 4 point victory 51-47.

Ksu bowl game, had to think about us
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@Crimsonorblue22 I had trouble understanding what they were saying.

@wissox it was fu KU

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Non-KU Games:

@jayballer67 said in Non-KU Games:

Wow Iowa State made just their SECOND bucket in the entire 2nd half with like 3:29 to go in the game. - - Iowa State 2-18 in the 2nd half. - Plus they got like 5 free throws in the 2nd half

Iowa State - - - - -40 to - - - -38 with 2:50 to go in the game - - NOT IN THE HALF - -Texas Tech 42 - - -Iowa State 40 left in the game

ISU pulled out a 4 point victory 51-47.

ya it was an UGLY GAME - - - UGLY ! ! !

Think the perfect Response to K/straight little playing of sandstorm for us during their bowl game , the perfect response would be to RUN IT BACK on them as we are preceding to giving them their annual ass kickin at the phog. - -Fire that puppy up - pipe it in - -turn it to the max and lt it fly & let em know this is for you lol - - love it

Boy here is some crazy , twisted thinking for you. - - Kentucky playing Vanderbilt Tuesday at Vanderbilt ok and ? - - -Weel here you go , tell me the logic to this. Vanderbilt Students are not being allowed to attend the game BUT the General public is allowed

Okay explain the logic to that lol - - - makes sense to me

I know a lot of people don't even pay any attention to this and I understand even myself doesn't give it a lot of thought , however still kind of interesting.

In the latest ESPN Bracketology they had a short little snippit and it was talking about a rising KU team bypassing and moving over Gonzaga & Duke in the chase for the overall # 1 seed in the upcoming tourney. They talked about how it was kind of surprising but with teams not playing because of Covid and then the competition and gave example of Duke playing in the ACC this year, as reasons for KU'S rising.

They talk about with that and now KU being the # 2 overall seed behind Baylor with that being said it would be a good reason to circle the Home & Home dates between KU & Baylor - -interesting to follow

Interesting line for the Clone-OU game. OU is favored at home by 6 points. I guess Vegas hasn't read the Clone's press clippings...

Purdues D makes ours look good.

AWFUL foul call there

Don't know about you guys but this just knocks me on my butt. - K/State just killing West Virginia at West Virginia right now with 10:00 left in the 1st half- -K/State 27 - - -West Virginia 12

Let's go Okie Lite

I'm going to fall asleep watching this osu texas game

Texas 9 points in the 1st 11 minutes of the game

Brucie still not coaching K/State today no wonder they winning lol

@DanR said in Non-KU Games:

I'm going to fall asleep watching this osu texas game

I feel like this is B12 basketball this season. KU pretty much the only fun team. Baylor is crazy good and efficient, but entertainment value-wise they are kinda boring

Kenpom Tempo:

• Baylor - 103
• KU - 46
• Texas - 351
• TTU - 293
• OU - 216
• ISU - 197
• WVU 243
• OSU 89
• TCU - 263
• KSU - 321

Future B12 teams:
- Houston - 298
- UCF - 202
- Cincy - 233
- BYU - 119

B12 basically the equivalent of B10 football this season.

K/State hung 40 on West Virginia in the 1st half. - - K State 40 - - - - -West Virginia 27 at West Virginia

Bryce would have been so much better served to stay at KU... This OSU offense just has no structure or flow. Probably could have ended up being something special by the end.

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

Bryce would have been so much better served to stay at KU... This OSU offense just has no structure or flow. Probably could have ended up being something special by the end.

I thought like Grimes he could have developed here and been fine. The problem was the same in both instances. :older_adult:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 said in Non-KU Games:

Bryce would have been so much better served to stay at KU... This OSU offense just has no structure or flow. Probably could have ended up being something special by the end.

I thought like Grimes he could have developed here and been fine. The problem was the same in both instances. :older_adult:

I honestly understood Grimes' gripe. Wanted the ball in his hands more and wasn't going to get it. A clash of strategy.

I would have thought Bryce's dad playing for Self would have helped the mindset that "it might take 4 years but Bill's got you." And Bryce never looked like he was as refined of a player as Grimes was. Idk, just my thoughts.

But yea dad's always see their kids in a different light than reality...

@Kcmatt7 True on Grimes. It does go both ways. Brannen's dad is the only reason we saw Greene at KU for 3 years.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401373538 ↗

Maybe if Nova loses again we can put them back in the top 10 @Kcmatt7 @KirkIsMyHinrich

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

@Kcmatt7 True on Grimes. It does go both ways. Brannen's dad is the only reason we saw Greene at KU for 3 years.

Meeerrrrrcy

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401373538 ↗

Maybe if Nova loses again we can put them back in the top 10 @Kcmatt7 @KirkIsMyHinrich

Quality Loss.

Also, West Virginia down 13 at half now up 3 on KState. Now it's tied again

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401364852 ↗

Nate Oats are you okay?

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401364852 ↗

Nate Oats are you okay?

This box score is cursed. Ew

Refs carrying Nova now

@BShark They always are. Devonte Graham getting a foul for diving and getting to the ball first still pisses me off.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Non-KU Games:

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401373538 ↗

Maybe if Nova loses again we can put them back in the top 10 @Kcmatt7 @KirkIsMyHinrich

Quality Loss.

Also, West Virginia down 13 at half now up 3 on KState. Now it's tied again

This game hurts to watch, but I'm watching it.

McNeill is cooking KSU lmaooooo

@BShark said in Non-KU Games:

McNeill is cooking KSU lmaooooo

CBB Klay Thompson

Brutal sequence for KSU. Bradford open by the rim, gets brutally rejected because he can't jump, run out for WVU leads to a foul.

UT in TROUBLE now

Oklahoma gonna get their THIRD top 15 win this year by beating Iowa St

Porter Moser can coach

@kuballin10 said in Non-KU Games:

Porter Moser can coach

I knew that he was going to be a great hire. The dude can coach. That team is going to be a defensive nightmare, this year and in years to come.

Dam. - - Missouri beat Alabama - - - What the hell , go figure - how did that happen ?

Double Dam , Dam Miami goes into Durham and beats Duke in Cameron 76 74 - - -what the hell - - go figure

Charlie Moore actually looked good.

Ha, at least we didn't lose at home to a chump like Miami.

Heck the Miami Heat went to Phoenix and beat them too by a bunch. Nice day for Miami and 78 degrees makes their day even better.

The biggest day of upsets of the season yesterday. 6 Top 25 teams went down.

Heady days in Los Angeles. Latest poll has UCLA 3 and USC 5. Not sure if there's ever been such a high ranking for both simultaneously. I never remember USC being this high to be honest. After what they did to us last year I'd rank them #1!

Watched the Badgers face Danny and Maryland. After the Badgers opened up a 21 point lead Dannys kids fought back furiously and actually took a 3 point lead before the Badgers won. It's the 3rd game the Badgers have had a 20 point lead that they've blown and then recovered and won, and they also had a 21 point comeback to win. Pretty amazing.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Heady days in Los Angeles. Latest poll has UCLA 3 and USC 5. Not sure if there's ever been such a high ranking for both simultaneously. I never remember USC being this high to be honest. After what they did to us last year I'd rank them #1!

During the 1970-71 season UCLA was #1 most of the season and USC was as high as #2.

The Trojans had some great teams back then but had the misfortune of being in the same conference as the Bruins during John Wooden's heyday as a coach. And that was back hwen only the conference champions could advanbce to the NCAA tournament. That season UCLA was led by Henry Bibby & Sidney Wicks, while USC had Paul Westphal.

@wissox said in Non-KU Games:

Heady days in Los Angeles. Latest poll has UCLA 3 and USC 5. Not sure if there's ever been such a high ranking for both simultaneously. I never remember USC being this high to be honest. After what they did to us last year I'd rank them #1!