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Home games this week start with Oklahoma.

OU is 1-2 so far in conference, losing to Texas & Iowa St at home by a combined 4 points and winning in OT by 5 against Tech. 4 of their 5 losses are by 4 points or less.

I expect this OU team to come prepared and hungry although historically and correct me if I'm wrong, Oklahoma hasn't won in Allen since Self has been head coach.

Expect a tough game, they are going to try and slow the game down. OU shoots the ball really well from everywhere as a team, 49% FG, 73% FT, 38% from 3. KU must have a strong defensive game here. OU matches up very well with KU. They will also have to make shots at near or above their average I'm thinking.

Guys to know:

Grant Sherfield-

OU's leading scorer is well known. He was recruited by KU in HS a bit before ending up Wichita St, Nevada & now OU. Sherfield is familiar with Allen Fieldhouse having played here last season when they lost to KU by 27, he scored 16 that night. He averages just under 17 ppg so he's capable of big games, having scored 20+ 6 times this year already. Shooting 46% from 3 on the season on high volume. If looking for any chink in the armor, his last 3 games he's been 4-22 from 3 and averaging only 12 ppg.

Groves Brothers-

Still here. They keep following KU around LOL. 2nd and 3rd leading scorers on the team. Tanner inside, Jacob more inside/out. I think Jacob is the key to slow down since he's shooting 41% from 3 & has had a handful of games with multiple 3's made in a game. He's the kind of guy that gets lost in ball rotations.. PITA's

Jalen Hill-

4th leading scorer but has led them in scoring in last 2 league games. In fact, he's averaged 16 ppg in league play so far & has shown he can hit the 3 as well (6-10 in that span). PITA

Milas Ozan-

Freshman guard is now in the starting lineup for OU. Modest scoring numbers but shooting 54% fg, 43% from 3, 88% FT's. Self mentioned they recruited him a bit so they are familiar. He's had 14 turnovers in his last 4 games so its a good matchup to exploit with him coming to Allen for the first time. Cannot let this kid get comfortable. Scored a career high 17 in his last game.

What's everyone's thoughts here? I think we are going to see OU's best shot and we better be prepared for it unlike our conference opener.

OU does an outstanding job of defending the 3 point line so it will be interesting to see where KU can score if they are not able to make some 3's. OU does turn it over quite a bit so hopefully we can force some and get some easy buckets in transition. Sherfield is by far the best player OU has so shutting him down is going to be paramount in winning the game. The current Vegas spread is 10.5. Would be nice for another double digit stress free game, but that isn't something you can count on in the Big 12.

I think we match up great with OU. KJ & JW should be quick enough to defend the Groves brothers. Harris against Sherfield will be a great matchup…Juan will be in his jock all night.

This is a game for McCullar and Gradey to dominate

Gonna be tough - -but if we D - up like we can - - should I think we can cause OU real trouble on the defensive end. - -I do think OU will cover the spread , I'm thinking between - 6-- -9 more like it.

OU defends the 3 very well - - they gonna run clock like your in mud -gonna have to get quality shots & turn OU over. - -Let's hope we come out ready, good to be home

Hope it isn't the case but we better be ready for a trap game. We just come off the road with two big victories and we didn't look good in our home opener against OSU.

We shot the lights out in WV... could it trigger a cold game at home?

I hope I'm off base!

@drgnslayr said in OU Game:

Hope it isn't the case but we better be ready for a trap game. We just come off the road with two big victories and we didn't look good in our home opener against OSU.

We shot the lights out in WV... could it trigger a cold game at home?

I hope I'm off base!

Dragon, don't buy into this trap game nonsense. we simply will not be overlooking Oklahoma. thats silly. no game in the league will be overlooked. if guys aren't motivated when on the floor, i hope they find a quick seat on the bench, next to Brady.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in OU Game:

@drgnslayr said in OU Game:

Hope it isn't the case but we better be ready for a trap game. We just come off the road with two big victories and we didn't look good in our home opener against OSU.

We shot the lights out in WV... could it trigger a cold game at home?

I hope I'm off base!

Dragon, don't buy into this trap game nonsense. we simply will not be overlooking Oklahoma. thats silly. no game in the league will be overlooked. if guys aren't motivated when on the floor, i hope they find a quick seat on the bench, next to Brady.

Agreed, I’m sure Self has engrained into the team how tough the conference is. Plus, I wouldn’t consider 11-24 from three to be “shooting the lights out”, just a good shooting night. I mean, this is actually a pretty good shooting team, so that number isn’t surprising at all.

If there's a trap game tonight, I think its K-state.

@Eric-san said in OU Game:

If there's a trap game tonight, I think its K-state.

False?

@HawkChamp Just think KSU will have a let down after monster wins on the road, massive jump in rankings, and national praising. -5 seems like free money, and Vegas doesn't give out free money. Of course I could be completely wrong lol.

9:05 tip

Strap it on guys

OH CRAP - - - KENTUCKY - -- LOST AGAIN - - Run Calapari run for your life lmao

Another muted game

Does Fran ever get any new material? Same stuff each game. He must think people are just watching KU for the first time every broadcast.

Nice Juan

Most underrated point guard in America, right Fran?

Juan with a nice floater to start our scoring

Bunch of bricks from both teams

KJ spins and makes off his big man, so nice

KJ should be able to drive on the bearded Groves

Turnover

DJ another smooth floater

KJ getting active helps us alot

Good stuff kj wish you would have finished that

KJ getting his own rebound, love that hustle

At some point kj needs to finish that leaner though.

OU is guarding the 3 well as @Woodrow predicted

DeJuan Harris uses 100% of his brain capacity.

layups again

Bunnies

This game has zero energy

Zach

Jalen you have to make that

backboard is juiced on our end

Higher on the square

Did Zach just trip over his own feet?

Shooting sucks all around

Make a layup

ISU is good good

TCU🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

ISU is good good

They have some pretty good players coming in too

at least 6 missed layups LOL

We can't buy a lay-up

Wow

Check that bucket for a lid!

Yeah yeah fran

Zach sighting early

Would be very nice to get Zach going. Heard he’s had a good couple weeks

Kevin holy hell

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Make your layups fellas

Wtf man

Walked

@FarmerJayhawk said in OU Game:

Would be very nice to get Zach going. Heard he’s had a good couple weeks

He matched up well against Groves last year is probably part of the early PT today

We're getting easy shots!

Glad we don't have the weight of #1 seed on our shoulders

Zach for his second bucket of the year, but then let’s his man blow by him. Not a good way to get playing time

Well it feels like we should be down big based on how we are not making any shots.

4-15, ouch

Im happy the Groves brothers transfered to OU so we can beat em twice a year.

We can't get much worse

Goodness, neither team can shoot at all.

@BShark

10-28 combined

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

This game has zero energy

Feels like everyone is just plodding along.

Grady from sooo far away!

Zach missed his man again ugh

OMG ZACH

ZC love the confidence there

Did a Monstar return Zach's talent?

Jalen looks like he's got nothin

Zach!!

Zach

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Zach for 3! Well well

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

Did a Monstar return Zach's talent?

Lol

Look at the gravity pull already from him hitting two Trey balls

3's are nice but getting blown by by Tanner Groves is yikes

Better effort from Zach on D that time even though he picked up the foul

Good grief kevin

Zach’s defense is soooo bad

@BeddieKU23 said in OU Game:

Good grief kevin

Tried to take the guys head off 😂

Pressing today for some reason

ISU THIRTY balling TTU was unexpected

Bill explaining to Zach matador D and why he does not like it

@DanR said in OU Game:

Bill explaining to Zach matador D and why he does not like it

Explaining why getting beat off the dribble by Tanner Groves is not a good thing

Pretty YES

Good stuff. Getting better, slowly

@RockChalkinTexas that was sweet

Good to see Zach have a little success - -we could use him for sure

It’s just amazing that Zach got beat immediately after every bucket he made…

Wow, ISU is run-ruling Tech

@benshawks08 yea, it’s like, yay! And then Oh crap

@benshawks08

Well it won't hurt to see if law of averages kicks in..

@KirkIsMyHinrich glad we play them at home Saturday

Gotta get Jalen to wake up!!!!

Zach is giving teams points on both ends when he is in there.

KJ

Bobby needs to work on that shot so bad

Bobby-Joe combo still not my favorite, but they are looking better together

Arch

Jeez we can't make anything tonight

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

Jeez we can't make anything tonight

YMCA part 2

Finally one went

@BShark said in OU Game:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

Jeez we can't make anything tonight

YMCA part 2

Whyyyyyyyyy can't we shoot

Lol KJ is such a freak

Quit complaining Kev

Dude. Aint outrunning and outjumping KJ

@KirkIsMyHinrich Generally good to have multiple players in the line-up that can shoot.

We are pretty ordinary when we shoot 30%.

@BShark said in OU Game:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Generally good to have multiple players in the line-up that can shoot.

To the tune of that song

Is Kevin having a stroke?

SMMFGDH

Lol what a call

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

Is Kevin having a stroke?

He isn't very good offensively but this is next level.

Unreal

This is the part of the broadcast where Fran discusses what you have to do to beat Kansas, his eyes get a little distant, like a leprechaun discussing a pot of gold…

That was not a good call

@RockChalkinTexas said in OU Game:

SMMFGDH

ah, second M is "Mother"

took me a second!

Got 4 starters shooting 3-18 right now. Don't recall the last time it was this bad

@DanR Appropriate for how we are so cold

@BeddieKU23 it’s not even good defense.

Gradey being 1-5 is probably the most surprising part.

So did Zach's poor defense hurt us more than his way better than expected offense? Zach is still our high scorer

Holy block out

@benshawks08 They defend the three well fwiw

@stoptheflop said in OU Game:

So did Zach's poor defense hurt us more than his way better than expected offense? Zach is still our high scorer

He gave up at least 6 points, so he's +2 ?

POY/AA could use more help.

Surprised that wasn’t a charge

Finally

Finally JW on the board

@FarmerJayhawk said in OU Game:

Surprised that wasn’t a charge

I know man he touched that OU player

can we get Dick the ball once in a while?

And one

And no call for KJ

Im calling it now. Second game winner of the year for Bobby.

KJ is just so good

where was the and one

It's hard to get a foul call when they don't call it

@approxinfinity as long as the game winner is with like 8 minutes left. I don't want this to be close at the end

Fran said "Jalen Harris". Dumbass.

@approxinfinity we have to have someone who can rebound

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

Im calling it now. Second game winner of the year for Bobby.

Having a rough half defending

KJ got creamed on that layup

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

Im calling it now. Second game winner of the year for Bobby.

God I hope it doesn’t come down to that. This should be a double digit win

@Kcmatt7 id gladly settle for a 20-2 run to start the second. I dont see Porter Moser getting punked.

Hey a foul!!

Franchinchila says the same thing every game. “Harris could walk down Main Street and not be recognized.” Every game

What’s the foul count the last 3 games? Opponents are like 2-1 right?

Finally an fing call

Nice throws KJ

KJ is pumped!

MY GOD

Amazing KJ! What a play

Man i love KJ. Hes got the same heart of gold as Dave

Holy crap, was that sweet

Wtf?

@KirkIsMyHinrich The improvement in KJ's freethrows, over such a short time span, has been remarkable.

KEVIN OMG

That’s good Kev

not much of a foul, tbh

@tundrahok he's been in the gym working

KEVIN MAKE THAT JFC

Oh crap, Kevin can’t even dunk it it

K3v is out of control

Crowd finally helped!

Jinx

Garbage defense

Sigh. We should be up 10

"Jalen Hill"

Great pass!

Missed 8 layups says Bill, ouch

Could be worse. At least we’re not Kentucky

@Kcmatt7 And we keep passing them on all-time wins

Bacot out again. Was surprised to see Duke in the top 25. Hoping neither school would get any visibility this year

Wilson, Dick, and McCullar combine for 3-15 shooting and we're up by 2.

McCullar seems stressed out on the offensive end. Hope he settles down.

@approxinfinity Imagine if one of those had won the natty.... you KNOW they would be falling all over themselves to perpetuate the slobbering up

KJ looked great.

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

Bacot out again. Was surprised to see Duke in the top 25. Hoping neither school would get any visibility this year

Don't know how anyone who watched their game against NC State could have them in the top 25

Hope we get it together by the 17th at KSU.

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

McCullar seems stressed out on the offensive end. Hope he settles down.

Wondering if he feels like he has to press for scouts or something? Feeling like he needs to score more to show off?

@Zabudda said in OU Game:

Hope we get it together by the 17th at KSU.

25 out of our last 26...i like our chances...

@Kcmatt7 yeah its tough having him 1 year, ratchets up the stress to a 9 always

@Kcmatt7 It's not just him. Gradey, Jalen, and Kevin are all 1-5. Must be something in the water.

Come alive Gradey, JWill, etc.

Oklahoma has done a good job of taking our scorers out of the game in the 1st half. - If it wasn't for Juan , KJ- - & Zach where would we be ?

Fran Fraschilla puts ketchup on his steak

We have an eight game gauntlet coming up.

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

Could be worse. At least we’re not Kentucky

Kentucky was a 20 point favorite tonight - - at Rupp

What is the highest Bruce had K St ranked ever?

Wilson, Dick, and McCullar are 3 for 15, and we're up by two.

Let's go #Jayhawks

Come out running

@approxinfinity they probably have a banner for that🤭🤡

@KirkIsMyHinrich So do I but that does'nt make me a pain in the ass

20 minutes of Fran talking about how to beat us gets really old

❤💙KJ

KJ is just so damn good in so many ways

Ok Bruce got them as high as 9th in week 18 of 2012-2013. They ended AP #12 that year and he won B12 coach of the year

Late call

Kj is going to be a monster next season

@approxinfinity did Siri tell you

@Kcmatt7

Pacing to be one now

@BeddieKU23 i think he adds a shot over the off-season…

@RockChalkinTexas googled it.

That's been an offensive foul all day but okay

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

@BeddieKU23 i think he adds a shot over the off-season…

NBA guy if this happens.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

That's been an offensive foul all day but okay

Imagine college refs being consistent.

Kj could easily have been a transfer this off-season. Player retention so important these days

Sherfeld was shoving Kev the entire setup on that inbounds play

Push off

@Kcmatt7 Fought to keep him.

Everyone goes to the hoop against us. Huh.

Finally got a call

Lol.

@Zabudda said in OU Game:

Everyone goes to the hoop against us. Huh.

Well, we don't play an interior stopper. Honestly we don't really have one that is ready for the job yet. Udeh COULD get there but not this year.

Gradey needs his pink shoes back

great D

The counter to not playing a bulky 5 is that we are very pesky on ball denials and get a lot of steals. That's what has really been a key tonight. Tons of steals.

We're better on turnovers 👍

Calling fouls now

Porter Moser's Amish beard is something

Even the FTs aren’t going in

I get that we don't want to give Dajuan some time off but...

Come on Gradey, you can get open

Run the weave

can we just get rid of this little pesky knats please -- such an ugly game

Crowd needs to pump 💪them up

@StLJhawk said in OU Game:

Even the FTs aren’t going in

@StLJhawk said in OU Game:

Even the FTs aren’t going in

12 - -15 -that's not to shabby. Bout the only thing that is doing anything right now. Oklahoma can make a game look really ugly

Will we score as many points as Georgia 🤦‍♀️

@RockChalkinTexas

Ouch!

@Zabudda

Too soon?🤭

@RockChalkinTexas

Lol.

we can win a bad ball game. we invented it.

WTF?

DJ cannot be hurt, please

Missed pushoff on OU and late call on KU

Did Bill pull on her ponytail or something?

4 point freebies

Okay Bill time for some set pieces I think. That kind of ugly game

Does Zach know who he's guarding?

Sure that's a foul

Did the ref just wave it off and then count it?

Shit call

Kevin's a liability on the fast break

@DanR no

So Kevin gives the ball away then fouls in the other end. And JW 2-7 ugh

Glad to see DJ back in, whew

The guy guarding Jalen is legitimately pushing him. This is not guarding at all

Zach’s man blows by him… again

Did anyone know who minnesota fats is without looking it up?

Zach is keeping even with the points he's giving up at least

@approxinfinity pool player

@StLJhawk said in OU Game:

Zach’s man blows by him… again

Not sure why he is getting time all of a sudden.

@approxinfinity Jackie Gleason

@BShark said in OU Game:

@StLJhawk said in OU Game:

Zach’s man blows by him… again

Not sure why he is getting time all of a sudden.

Zuby was just getting going too… don’t get it

@RockChalkinTexas

Ames IA

🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

Technically, WIlson doesn't leave the ground when he jumps, Fran

all right, let's go

@DanR like Dave

Doug Sirmons be like

!alt text ↗

Take it easy there, Groves. Just a foul. No need to start crying.

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

@BShark said in OU Game:

@StLJhawk said in OU Game:

Zach’s man blows by him… again

Not sure why he is getting time all of a sudden.

Zuby was just getting going too… don’t get it

He probably think Clemence matches up better with Groves even though Clemence doesn't play defense

This is so ugly

DeJuan looking for Wilson at the mo.

@RockChalkinTexas

They do multiply quickly.

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

Did anyone know who minnesota fats is without looking it up?

ya professional pool player

@DanR It's his 4th, with lots of time left. Teary situation.

Have to get stops and make layups and fts. OU shooting 50+% from the field

@BeddieKU23 said in OU Game:

This is so ugly

preach brother - - UGLY UGLY

It's been about 50 years since anyone mentioned Minnesota Fats. I think he used to show up on wide world of sports once in a while in the 70s

oklahoma shooting 73 % in the 2nd half - - and 54 % for the game. - Here is an idea - - let's try to play some defense you think ?

@DanR #4 too

@DanR

Playing Willie Mussconi.

DEFENSE

Buddy never won in Allen!

surprised KJ isn't back in there

@DanR he will now

Zach with the tackle!

Zach got his moneys worth

Zach got his monies worth on that one

Zach should try out for LB

Again why does he play lol

Zach got his money's worth!

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

Did anyone know who minnesota fats is without looking it up?

You have an older crowd here. The Hustler was a classic movie.

The tab next to this one on my browser is a Google search for Futsal. From the last game, when you were late because one of your kids was playing this game I've never heard of. I should reboot/refresh more often.

Can someone set a screen for Gradey? Anyone? His mom is probably going to run out there and do it.

Can't make a layup

@BShark said in OU Game:

Again why does he play lol

Bill remembers Groves killing us from deep maybe

Dammit

Now it's getting serious

4 on KJ, crap

@tundrahok ha, fair enough

if they don't make the shot we foul them

Maybe try one of the other two big guys? Zach ain't doin it

we can't make bunnies-- 0 - -10 no score in 2 minutes

here comes Zuby

Imagine making a lay-up

Zach needs to transfer already

All right, Zuby. Go get some lobs

QUIT POSTING UP. Drive and kick like we’ve done all year. Clear the effing lane if they aren’t coming off shooters so our guys can finish in the lane.

@dylans said in OU Game:

Zach needs to transfer already

There are rumblings.

Oh thank you Bill

@BShark said in OU Game:

Imagine making a lay-up

what would that be like

This friggin official

Everything breaking against us

Bad call again

Blind ref

Kevin!

Wish they could/would review it during the timeout.

Wish they could ask me!

@dylans They have time, no reason not to!

@dylans said in OU Game:

Wish they could/would review it during the timeout.

They should be able to. What the hell else are they doing?

this is total BS - -Amy Bonner needs to go referee a JR Game cause she sure isn't P-5 level

@KirkIsMyHinrich actively ignoring the ball location. Lol

We are trying to make other teams over confident I think.

Not sure what to call our offense tonite. The go down the floor and do whatever the fuck ya want, we aren't gonna actually run anything set or what

Oh COME ON

STOP IT

My God this is horrendous

Ugg

Sherfield holds to sell it

We're getting layups on offense. I think that was the plan if they shut down the perimeter

That was a CLEAN steal.

We're NOT getting layups. We're throwing up junk like Sanford and Son

We have taken 9 threes. Bravo Porter Moser. Bravo

That's what ya get for playing piss poor offense

KU is playing bad enough they don’t need any help from the refs. Need a clean game from here on out

Someone needs to make a play to get the crowd into it

Would not post up Gradey 1/10 do not recommend

Grady 1-6, JW 2-10 ack

we are shooting 21 % in the 2nd hlf. - -Oklahoma leading the league in 3 pt shooting defense - - - we in trouble boys - - big time trouble. Grady is a no show in this game and when he DOES shoot he throws up some bunk half hook bull shit - what the hell

Literally better taking contested 3s for Jalen and Gradey than posting up

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

We have taken 9 threes. Bravo Porter Moser. Bravo

Old habits etc

Somebody?

ANYBODY going to hussle

There is plenty of time left, so...

Going over 11 minutes without a field goal they just said. - made free throws but over 11 minutes

@DanR valid point. This team has the toughness to get this done

We're not anything but getting out coached here. Plain and simple. Haven't ran an actual offensive set 1 time tonite.

@DanR but we can't let them get up anymore

13 of 39 from 2 is insanely bad.

@jayballer67 wow

mercy these refs want to take the lime light

Ugg ref

Let ‘em play!

Don't foul him

Makeup call ¯_(ツ)_/¯

holy crap - -ca we get a trip down the floor without a foul being called. --- how in the hell can you get flow when these guys suckin those whistles

gotta keep playing tough D though

Gotta be dumbest ass game plan I've seen since atleast last night....

What a boring game. So many free throws

Kevin not fouled. Geeze refs. There is contact in basketball it’s ok

we DONE NO PHOG TO BE SEEN - - NO FG FOR THE LAST 12:41

Give it up Wilson

Yikes. No stop here and it is basically over

-69-61 ou leads at this point if you’re ready later and it’s not been pretty-

Gonna need a hell of a comeback now

🖕 Refs

Jalen got mugged and Groves walked. Neither called lmao

i CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND THAT

Absolutely got away from what we’ve done all season offensively tonight. Awful game plan

Poor dble team

finally a basket

Charge on KJ. Dunked too hard 😂

Refs yea, but 16-49 FGs for us ain’t gonna get it done

Selfishly KU really needs to pull this one out. I’m stuck in Manhattan 150+ folks in the meeting room - 1 KU fan.

Starting to feel like Bubba's cell mate in prison.

halfway there

Big shot

Couoh Gradey have made that shot any harder 😂

Yeah Gradey could have just gone straight in with the left hand probably

Gradey 1-8 jeez

Seems KU has given up on 3-pt tries. Only 11?

KU last possession - - -ALL KJ ADAMS

We need points not Top 10 shots

Damn this team is stupidly fun to watch. And it's not fun watching them play stupidly. Lol

Need grizzly groves to pick up a charge here

UNC moves to 11-6 with no signs of having a fix… Could we see Duke, UNC and UK unranked next week?

JUAN

whatever that offense was kind of worked

Harris is a stud

LETS GOOOOO

Aaaah

💩

kj got hacked

Just swallow the damn whistles

LFG

CALL THE FLOP YOU COWARD REFS

The old barn has one more in her

have you EVER in your life ever seen such an inconsistent called game

Gotta play fence

Deny Sherfield the ball

Aaaaargh!!!!

JUANDOOO

KJ

73-72 OU lead KU ball

AND ONE

+1

LFG

Knock it down McCullar

KEVIN I NEVER SAID A BAD WORD ABOUT YOU

And boom goes the dynamite!KU leads!!!!

Kev dogshit the whole and then, when we need it bad… yea

kevin got poked in the eye

airball

Hahahahahaha

KU football and KU basketball. Both love to come back from down double digits

Ouch

That eye is messed up

My wife suggested earlier that we should take Dick out. I had to remind her that you should Never take Dick out.

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

My wife suggested earlier that we should take Dick out. I had to remind her that you should Never take Dick out.

You’d make a good catholic

@approxinfinity

Shameful 🤭

No going to the monitor for a guy who’s eye is already black?

14-2 run

Look at it

Dagger

Let's DISAPPOINT Fran

Lmao Fran probably clinching his fists in rage having to call another KU last minute win

Why foul///

JW 10-12 at the line, sweet

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

Lmao Fran probably clinching his fists in rage having to call another KU last minute win

Hehehehe

37 free throws from one team is an unwatchable sport

Townsend doubling as OU b-ball player? No wonder he can’t hold the ball right. Lol

I was gonna lose my shit if that wasn’t called

Is this the crew that called the Kstate Texas game?

Uzan is luzan

Foul called 🤡🤡

KSU did a dumb foul against Baylor and had to go to OT.

Knock them down, Juan

Did McCullar have coach cut his eye like Rocky

No doubt Juan

Ice cold

Never in doubt, right?

HARRY HOUDINI GOT NUTHIN' ON THESE GUYS !

@DanR cut me MICK

Sometimes ya just chalk them up to the Phog. That boys and and girls is how you play for actually less than 10 full minutes and somehow win

Good guys win again

OMfreakingG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the more improbable ones we've had

just win, baby

Was 71-61 (with about 4:00 left?) and ended up 75-79. Unreal

What happened to Kevin's 👁

KJ was HUGE in that last 4 minutes

OU with a ruined orgasm.

18-4 run to end the game. 🤩

Folks, I'm too old for this shit. Let's have a blow out next game

@DanR said in OU Game:

KJ was HUGE in that last 4 minutes

KJ is the most important player for this team right now. Imagine 40 minutes of Cam/Zach/freshman 🤢

So when was the last time OU won in Allen? Anybody happen to know?

Bite me, Fran.

Well looks like I'm only get 4 hrs of sleep tonight. Oh well that was worth it

They said earlier, I forgot

@Crimsonorblue22 1993 is what I heard

@Kcmatt7 said in OU Game:

@DanR said in OU Game:

KJ was HUGE in that last 4 minutes

KJ is the most important player for this team right now. Imagine 40 minutes of Cam/Zach/freshman 🤢

I think if Zuby got all the minutes he’d be serviceable by post season. The rest are further off and as you said thank goodness for KJ!!!

That ref crew needs to be fired into the sun. Higgins would have been an upgrade tonight

KJ Adams MVP of the game

@Crimsonorblue22
🤭 That was sarcasm!!

@Crimsonorblue22 I think they said 1993? Can that be right?

It is

30 years? Ouch

22 consecutive wins against OU now as well (I think that’s what popped up anyways). Sick

@dylans We are very happy for you considering you're stuck in the little apple

Self- "we're gonna have a team building exercise tonite, you guys just go run whatever the fuck ya want and see what happens". Now-"you'll run it how I say from here on huh". Lol

@DanR You have no idea how much better tomorrow will be!!! In all fairness I give them all a heavy ration of crap fairly frequently. I’m just waaaaay outnumbered.

Billy Tubbs was the last OU coach to win in Allen. Fran's repetition got pretty old, but that is pretty cool.

Glad we won.

KJ is going to be something else by the time he's a senior

KJ = Energizer Bunny, He never stops

I want KJ to develop a 3 ball. Hes so square on his J. Maybe he can do it.

He's gotta quit fouling. Coming in from behind and jumping in on everyone with 3 fouls.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

Glad we won.

KJ is going to be something else by the time he's a senior

My favorite type of player. 4 year kid we get to watch grow into a nice young man as his basketball skills grow as well.

Could we possibly play a crappier game and find a way to win. Having said that I will say again I've never seen a worse called game by refs then tonight - - they took the game away

@approxinfinity said in OU Game:

I want KJ to develop a 3 ball. Hes so square on his J. Maybe he can do it.

His FTs have looked good lately as well

So much for our string of 2-hour games. This felt like three halves.

@tundrahok Lonnie never won in AFH? Crazy!

How am I going to sleep after this. Damn

I'll be up forever and I barely made it this am.

After the game, they played a slo-mo of JW yelling something to the crowd. He had a very un-happy look on his face. Anyone know what that was about? Was he yelling at OU fans?

Self just wasn't gonna show the whole shabang to Moser. Told the boys to just go out and win one.

I knew we missed a lot of lay ups early - -Coah just said - -SEVEN - -SEVEN MISSED BUNNIES holy crap time for lay up drill

@jayballer67 said in OU Game:

I knew we missed a lot of lay ups early - -Coah just said - -SEVEN - -SEVEN MISSED BUNNIES holy crap time for lay up drill

He said 8 at halftime. I'd guess around 10

@KirkIsMyHinrich We missed 4 bunnies on one possession in the 2nd half, so more than that.

18 to 4 run in 5;06 minutes. Incredible

No missed bunnies in those 5:06 minutes--- thankfully

@Gorilla72 I think he was just fired up. Was it behind the basket, to the right? I think he was just yelling to the crowd.

They only made 2 3's. We should've zoned them. U notice Zuby was tucking in his shirt as they were throwing in the ball? Didn't seem ready to me.

Watching the post game show. Looks like Groves skipped the presser

@Crimsonorblue22 - he seemed angry. Maybe the OU fans had been on him.

Their fans are not usually behind the baskets. I saw him hollering but it was right after the buzzer when he caught the pass.

@Crimsonorblue22 - thanks!

@Gorilla72 I couldn't see his face.

I knew porter wasn't gonna like those 2 crazy 3's his team took at the end. Low bb IQ

Moser bitching about free throws... I mean, the last 8 or 9 were from them fouling to stop the clock after they crapped the 10 point lead away

I thought his name was porter Moses 😂

Mortar Poser

It sounds like everyone is screwing it up!

@DanR - OU hit 2/17 three’s. He should start there.

More Posies. Mortar Posit. I give up.

I met Porter Moser a couple of years ago, told him I had some eligibility left. Told me he'd send the paperwork.

Just finished watching, wow, what a slugfest. Nice to see the team win when the O isn't clicking on all cylinders. Read a few comments above, missed quite a few at the rim.

I think I'd read OU guards the line well and so it was gratifying to see Bill Self prevent them from chucking up 3 after 3. As it was we had pretty good looks and took them when they were afforded us.

OU missed a ton of shots late obviously. We needed that. This sure was looking like a loss.

Porter Moser - translates to gatekeeper near a peat bog. Or as we say in American my name doesn’t mean anything.

!alt text ↗

Saw the blurb wrong during the game - 22 straight in Allen Fieldhouse. Imbalanced Big12 schedule years ago meant no home games every other year for a period. No wins for OU since 1993 in Larryville! I have no idea how long overall.

Whew, doggie. Escape.

Well, I don’t have the guts to read the 400 posts above. Anybody have one nice thing to say? If so, what was the one nice thing? :)

It doesn’t get much worse than that. 21 bunnies missed.

Not a single bucket scored from what, 17 min mark to 5 min mark?

The worst part: Oklahoma players just don’t pass the eyeball test. If we’d a lost to that unathletic bunch of gypsies I’d be pissed!

@rockchalkjayhawk Once nice thing: the last 5 minutes were fun, coming back from a 10-pt deficit. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

@tundrahok said in OU Game:

@rockchalkjayhawk Once nice thing: the last 5 minutes were fun, coming back from a 10-pt deficit. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

Bingo! :) nicely done.

I was barking at the TV most of the game. When Boomer Sooner got up by 10, I decided to shut my trap and enjoy any potential comeback. I’ll take credit for that! Ha.

21 missed layups. wow

@rockchalkjayhawk said in OU Game:

Whew, doggie. Escape.

Well, I don’t have the guts to read the 400 posts above. Anybody have one nice thing to say? If so, what was the one nice thing? :)

It doesn’t get much worse than that. 21 bunnies missed.

Not a single bucket scored from what, 17 min mark to 5 min mark?

The worst part: Oklahoma players just don’t pass the eyeball test. If we’d a lost to that unathletic bunch of gypsies I’d be pissed!

They prefer to be called Bohemians...:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

@BeddieKU23 said in OU Game:

21 missed layups. wow

Should have shot more 3s, imo. Or just make lay-ups.

KJ though!

What does the OU game mean for Zach? He helps on offense; he scored half of our 3s. But, in 12 minutes he only had 3 rbs. and was a turnstile on defense. After 16 games, Coach Self still hasn't found his backup 5.

It will be beneficial for this KU team to lose couple of games, prefer on the road, blowouts, for coaches to use as teaching moments and get players grounded a bit.

@AsadZ said in OU Game:

It will be beneficial for this KU team to lose couple of games, prefer on the road, blowouts, for coaches to use as teaching moments and get players grounded a bit.

Bite your tongue; saw off your fingers. KU never needs to lose a game to improve. I say win them all and win them by double digits. My heart just can't take 10 minutes of game time with no points.

@stoptheflop My hope is that this set of games is actually what it looks like when Kansas plays poorly. It sure has LOOKED ugly for stretches to open the big 12. But man, do we have play makers in big time moments. Dejuan always seems to make a play when we need it most and key a big turnaround. That first drive and dish to KJ was huge, the quick pass in transition as well.

Wilson played tough D and just kept on fighting on a night where he was mauled every time he touched the ball.

Kevin struggled all game and then his pressure D and AND1 finish sealed it.

Even Gradey came up with a couple monster rebounds on a night where he was essentially bear hugged for 40 minutes.

And then there's KJ. Don't really have to work that hard to find his contributions. Good lord.

Watch Saturday with Iowa St in town and celebrating 125 years with coaches be a completely different team. They will be amped.

We won with our D+ offensive game and scored 79.

Credit to OU's defensive game plan, well executed, almost worked. OU matched up extremely well with us. Hill really made it difficult for Wilson and he still got near 20 pts by the end. Guys made plays when it mattered though, as ugly as it was to watch unfold.

Hopefully they get in the layup line today and work on plays through contact. 2 games in a row with poor execution at the rim.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in OU Game:

@drgnslayr said in OU Game:

Hope it isn’t the case but we better be ready for a trap game. We just come off the road with two big victories and we didn’t look good in our home opener against OSU.
We shot the lights out in WV… could it trigger a cold game at home?
I hope I’m off base!

Dragon, don’t buy into this trap game nonsense. we simply will not be overlooking Oklahoma. thats silly. no game in the league will be overlooked. if guys aren’t motivated when on the floor, i hope they find a quick seat on the bench, next to Brady.

We were lucky to get past this one. We looked flat, low energy, and we were cold, going most of the second half without a field goal.

We finally showed a little energy in the last 5 minutes and blew by them. This game fit the definition of trap game except we finally pulled it out. No way OU matches up to our talent. We were unmotivated and this is a common situation in college basketball.

Positives for me were…
- even tho the shots (and bunnies) weren’t falling, we still found ways to score (and win!).

• getting mauled and making our FTs, JW went 10-12! I remember past KU teams where we were lucky to shoot 50%. Man that used to bug me.

• KJ. Every part of his game is getting so good. If he keeps this up he might be joining some of other starters in the big leagues next year.

• we continued our dominance of OU even on an off night to remain undefeated in the toughest conference in college. At the end of the day, the W is what matters right?

@StLJhawk

I think it says a lot that we were able to win while playing so poorly. We stepped up at the end and I feel like we are one of the best teams in America in the final minutes.

What I didn't like seeing.... was our body language was bad until the final 5 minutes. We changed our perspective the last 5 minutes and that is why we won.... why didn't we make this easier for ourselves and lift our heads earlier? I'm just glad we finally pulled out of this. We showed more energy on defense and shut them down then even increased the offensive tempo, scoring on a couple of secondary fast break points!

This was a loss without KJ! He had some rough moments missing bunnies, but he kept after it!

I hope we don't have too many more of these loathing games!

@stoptheflop said in OU Game:

What does the OU game mean for Zach? He helps on offense; he scored half of our 3s. But, in 12 minutes he only had 3 rbs. and was a turnstile on defense. After 16 games, Coach Self still hasn't found his backup 5.

I think to be fair to Zach, some of the times he was a sieve on defense it was a mismatch. He seemed to get switched on to little quick guys a lot. He doesn’t have KJs quickness.

@stoptheflop

He helped win the game on offense but was offensive to watch defend. He's not the answer but in home games he might be useful here and there. He seems to play ok in front of the home crowd.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in OU Game:

@jayballer67 said in OU Game:

I knew we missed a lot of lay ups early - -Coah just said - -SEVEN - -SEVEN MISSED BUNNIES holy crap time for lay up drill

He said 8 at halftime. I'd guess around 10

ya they said that we missed 21 layups for the game - - -TWENTY ONE - but coach said too now some of those lay ups were contested pretty good but STILL

@jayballer67 interesting to note that we were fouled 22 times… might be some correlation there.

@StLJhawk - after rewatching parts of the last 2 games, it appears Tech, and now OU, have discovered that the way to slow down the Hawks and stay in games is the same technique used by WVU: push, shove, hack, bump, etc. It was used with most of the missed bunnies last night. Very close guarding to run/push KU off their line of attack seems to work well. Am I wrong here?

@Gorilla72 replied to your similar comment in another thread and brought up WVU. The plan seems to be hack hard and hack often and dare the refs to put KU on the line 30+ times. The. Whine about a KU whistle after the loss and hope for a more favorable one the next time around.

Glad we have at least one game before we go to Manhattan because there’s be no way we’d get anything close to a good whistle there one game after shooting so many free throws. It would be like a cage match.

Good thing about this team though is with Jalen and KJ on the floor, good luck bullying those guys around.

I think Zach played fine. OU went to the hole about every time down and was successful on layups and put backs when he was out.
Kudos to Gradey for his rebounding in the last few minutes.
The game changed when OU's Tanner Groves made a layup to put them up by 10 with 5 minutes left and when self called a timeout. Groves went back to their bench screaming like a banshee and I thought it might be an unwise early celebration by OU when it happened. They started missing all the circus shots they had been making especially the layups.
We are looking like somewhat last year's team with crappy first halves and sorry scoring lapses.
i'm really hoping we will become a scary good team like last year's squad did during the very last part of conference season. We looked amazing for 20 minutes and then WTF all that year.

Interesting nobody wanting to give any input about whether they thought KSU was ranked to high - at # 11 this week. So going off that I guess your all in agreement that YES KSU is ranked correctly. Interesting , - I don't think they are I think should be more around the 15 - 17th in rankings. Yet I guess everyone thinks # 11 is right. - we shall see

@jayballer67

The purple kitties are playing legit like a ranked team. I don't know where they belong in rankings... but I know this isn't the team we can bulldoze like other past years.

I'm GLAD they are lifting up! I want KSU to challenge us! And that means sometimes we drop one. So be it. Let's hope not now!

Was there last night the place was electric those final 5 minutes.

Juan is legit looking to score more and all of our guys have been working on those floaters

JW is the guy as we know and the only one really good at creating his own shot. The constant post up was brutal caused the ball to stick but we couldn’t manufacture anything else offensively

Gradey - He’s way more active on the boards but he doesn’t move without the ball to get it very well except back cuts. Need to run the elevator screen for him and not Kevin (not sure what Bill is thinking there)

Kevin - defensively is a menace - needs to quit worrying about the calls and just play. He’s stepped up down the stretch

KJ - mvp dude is a monster and allows us to guard anyone and everyone by switching. That block was ridiculous I don’t care about his trex arms

Bench - manageable. Clem was huge but just a turnstile on D. Joe had a bucket via the floater and Bobby was okay nothing special

OU is physical to watch it up close like that was sweet. If they could have hit a three second half they’d won but porter didn’t have them prepared final 1:30

Next 8 games are gonna either win us the big 12 or make it close. I love this league our guys will be prepared and my bracket will be big 12 homer picks

Lastly - ksu is legit. Yes, they give up buckets but they can flat out score. Tang has them rolling and confident.

@BeddieKU23 said in OU Game:

Watch Saturday with Iowa St in town and celebrating 125 years with coaches be a completely different team.

In 125 years, KU has had only 8 head coaches. Truly phenomenal.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in OU Game:

Their fans are not usually behind the baskets. I saw him hollering but it was right after the buzzer when he caught the pass.

I saw this video last night. JW said “This is our house!”

@stoptheflop said in OU Game:

@AsadZ said in OU Game:

It will be beneficial for this KU team to lose couple of games, prefer on the road, blowouts, for coaches to use as teaching moments and get players grounded a bit.

Bite your tongue; saw off your fingers. KU never needs to lose a game to improve. I say win them all and win them by double digits. My heart just can’t take 10 minutes of game time with no points.

I would love to believe you.... but I don't.

There is no way in hell we won that Nattie last year without the Kentucky beatdown in our own building. Even Self recognized it and has mentioned it numerous times.

It's sports psychology (actually LIFE psychology!). Players/teams need a chip to reach the next level.

Heck... watch the interviews with Kirby Smart on what it took to repeat as National Champions in football. Kirby and his staff put in big effort to build a chip with his team this year and it worked! Yes... you can go undefeated with a chip, but it ain't easy! Self doesn't go in that direction with his coaching style... so consequently, we need to be punched in the nose sometimes to dig deeper.

That OU game exposed us in some areas. Teams that are willing to be physical and really guard our guys tight put a stop to our current easy-flow, fast passing, assist-building offense.

It is crucial that our guys start learning how to free themselves up. Run through other players creating your own off-ball screens. This is how players like Steph Curry do it. Everyone in the NBA would love to just be able to put a guy on him and shut him down. They try... and they fail. Why? Because Steph runs around using sharp cuts off of other players standing there. He exhausts guys trying to guard him because they have to try to fight through every screen, usually through at least two players (one from each team).

Running a hybrid chop-motion offense is helpful sometimes, but isn't the answer by itself. We will have to adapt our offense for more aggressive defense coming up in our league and later in March.

A great example is Gradey. Granted... he is a freshman, but he's a quick learner. Standing out there on the perimeter making it a 4-on-4 game was not our best strategy. He is one of our most-lethal scoring threats but was almost completely neutralized in this game.

And our defense was not good! We let every player on OU drive with ease! We need to do a better job scouting... knowing player tendencies, like driving preferences. And then apply the right hedging. Hustle harder and draw charges! It's never been this easy in college basketball to get the charge call! Come on, fellas... get after it!

I have hope that Self and Company will get this figured out!

@Gorilla72 good deal, he's always pretty passionate!

Since they only made 2 3's, I thought coach might zone it up a lil. Our switching put a lot of littles on bigs and they really took advantage of that, especially w/big shot Bob and juan in at the same time. I watched Hawk talk last pm, big shot Bob was his nickname in high school cause of his last minute winning shots!🤩 no surprise, huh!

@drgnslayr

Not every team has that physical defensive style of play that OU was able to slow KU down with. That's been Moser's MO even at Loyola. I know I looked at the matchup and saw OU could position for position give us fits and that's what ended up happening. If KU makes half the 21 layups they missed how much does that change the game? OU got lucky they controlled the tempo and crowd early since KU couldn't piss in any ocean.

Iowa St does play physical defensively and we play them Saturday, however I think we're going to see a different team in 2 days. I wouldn't be surprised if we find a way to play to the level that beat Indiana handily. Would be nice to travel to Manhattan for the next battle after one of those feel good games.

@BeddieKU23 said in OU Game:

@drgnslayr

Not every team has that physical defensive style of play that OU was able to slow KU down with. That's been Moser's MO even at Loyola. I know I looked at the matchup and saw OU could position for position give us fits and that's what ended up happening. If KU makes half the 21 layups they missed how much does that change the game? OU got lucky they controlled the tempo and crowd early since KU couldn't piss in any ocean.

Iowa St does play physical defensively and we play them Saturday, however I think we're going to see a different team in 2 days. I wouldn't be surprised if we find a way to play to the level that beat Indiana handily. Would be nice to travel to Manhattan for the next battle after one of those feel good games.

we missed 21 layups - -of course some challenged - but like you said if we make half of those - -thats 20 points and we win double digit

On top of that , this game was soooo hard to ge any kind of continuity with this game - - any kind of flow, when you have whisltes every time down the floor.The referees wanted to have this game all about them

@jayballer67

After the memo went out for the league to cut down on physical play we shoot 60 million free throws in a game. Officiating has hit rock bottom

@drgnslayr I do think it's possible to get that punch in the mouth while still winning games. It's all about the mentality that comes from it. If our guys continue to think, "hey we can win any game as long as we turn up the heat late in the game" we will probably not improve. But if they come out and say, "hey, we should never be down 10 in our own building again, we have to find that switch at the start of the game and work to never turn it off" well then we might be on to something.

I know folks doubted Jaybate when he talked about the full amp vs. no amp games, but I do think there's something to that interpretation. Self said about this game that KU basically didn't run any offense the whole game. Who decides what offense to run? Is that on Juan and Wilson? Isn't Self supposed to be getting us into sets as we bring the ball up? Did he not have their attention? ORRRRRR..... Did Self intentionally send the guys out there without much of a game plan? Did he hold some wrinkles close to the chest to use in this tough stretch or against OU in Norman? And if the guys sense Coach isn't putting his all into winning this game, there's a natural let down energy wise for them as well. I don't know. Seems like there could be something to all of that. Obviously I don't know and likely never will as Self would be stupid to even hint that something like that may be the case.

As far as Gradey, not sure he has the conditioning to go Steph Curry on the Big 12 this year. There was lots of talk early in the year about Gradey being tired late in games, or playing too many minutes, etc. So there may be some hesitation to run him all over the court in a game against what is likely a team in the bottom half of the league in Allen when ISU and KSU are on the horizon.

I haven't paid enough attention to know but it would be interesting to see how well whoever is guarding Gradey scores on a given night. Like, is guarding Gradey going to take a few points per game off whoever gets that assignment? I'd be curious. Not curious enough to look it up and figure it out myself though...

The good thing about this team is they don't seem to get too flustered by overly physical play. Yeah they missed a bunch of bunnies this game but I don't see that being a trend yet. They still got to their spots, got good looks, and even won the dang game!

It's possible that Tennessee roughing us up might have toughened some of these guys and brought them together a bit. We will see if they need another reminder as the season goes on. I know I'd rather not come from double digits down every game, but maybe that's just a personal preference.

@benshawks08

Interesting post!

Yes... I remember those Jaybate discussions. I've never really bought into the idea that Self wants our guys low amped for a game... but I do believe he could give off weird energy he isn't familiar with that keeps the team down a bit. Like anytime we play OSU, his alma mater.

Could have a point about Gradey's conditioning. Even Steph has issues though. They very carefully monitor his minutes so he can go full tilt in the right time during a game. Maybe it is something for us to consider. Maybe Gradey tends to hang the most points in the first half not just because other teams figure out how to guard him at half... maybe he gets tired! I do think his big thing to work on in this coming off-season is his strength and conditioning. He doesn't look anywhere near ready for the NBA with his current body.

I think our biggest plus is we are a team that doesn't give up! It's a trait we learned last year and it sure kept us alive in March! I think this team has the same DNA, largely because of Juan and JWil coming back... but I get a huge taste of it with Kevin... and also now KJ and even Gradey. Gradey pulled a few important rebounds late for us in this game!

That "coolheadedness" this team carries surely has something to do with Self, too.

Our defense must improve, or we're going to lose. I think we have a thinner margin than what some think, including our players.

Great posts, gang. This is the kind of content that keeps me paying for this site!

That narrow headspace between high amp play and clutch cool-headedness must be a tough sweetspot to find day in and day out. Crucially, with the right personnel, Self seems to be able to teach and coach it. Boy is it fun to watch!

@Jayblaze

Right on! Remember that championship game with UNC. And Davis was about to explode with emotion in that first half while his team spent all their energy in that half... helping us for a monumental comeback. Meanwhile... Self and Company just kept their cool and brought it when it counts!