It’s Gameday!!! I’m ready for a purple puddy cat pouring! Warning to all you folks with young children I’m hoping KU turns in an NC17 performance - just too gnarly of a beat down for young Mildcat fans to watch.

This is the game we need to win. I'm confident we get it done

I am going!! I'd hope we win either way. But they have to win if I'm going right?? Lol

@cragarhawk If we don't win - it's KU policy to refund your money. Just talk to Bill and tell him I said it was ok.

Self has the troops awake on this one.

Interesting that the line is -8. Seems a bit steep to take KU tonight.

Hawks in a blowout. Sills doesn’t go for 20. Gradey finds his stroke in friendly confines. McCullar has “it” going again. KJ finishes at the rim.

I thought we did everything we could to lose the last one and that KSU played well. KU plays a halfway decent game and we win by 12.

@Kcmatt7

I try not to jinx our guys but I can see the real possibility of that UK game having a big-time positive impact on our guys.

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

This is the game we need to win. I'm confident we get it done

Me to my friend. Maybe ove confidence but I think they are walking into a war zone. - -All kinds of things going - - The Phog is going to be JUICED/LIT . - -for the following factors : - -They have already beaten us this year - - two :- - -they are ranked higher then us - - -three : It took them when we played oh so poorly , it took them overtime on their home floor to win the game by ONE.-- I just feel it in my KU gut

I think Grady will play better /of couse Nowell will probably play better so that will possibly offset but just feel in the Phog - -we get it done

@Eric-san said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Interesting that the line is -8. Seems a bit steep to take KU tonight.

ya as big of fan that I am for the Crimson & Blue - - I think I would stay away from that

I believe him!

!tysonjayhawkjpg.jpg ↗

@drgnslayr said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Kcmatt7

I try not to jinx our guys but I can see the real possibility of that UK game having a big-time positive impact on our guys.

I agree , I think maybe some might not realize what that Kentucky game did for us.-- Tough game on the road , - -HUGE for us - - every time Kentucky challenged us - -we had the answer, - -KJ played much bette , Juan played better. Just showed some signs of coming out of this slump.

I seen them getting some of that swag back. - -I think Grady will play better in Manhattan he was 1-8 I think from the three-- - or field - I think he does better then that - the PHOG WILL BE P - -H - -O - -G - -G --Y - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I think not having KU K/State - not be shown Nationally- is a joke. - -makes you wonder why? - -you have 2 ranked teams - - highly ranked teams at that - -# 7 & # 8 - -and we get ESPN Plus. Now as we see ESPN have their nose so far up the ACC - Arse - -come Saturday - -we get to see on guess who ? - - ESPN - we get to see of Course have ESPN shove this down our throat - -AGAIN -we see two UNRANKED teams - -Duke & N Carolina -what the hell

I wanna be Rock Chalk Chanting with a minute to go!

The betting line feels like a trap. My instinct is to hammer KSU.

@jayballer67

Self told KJ to play his butt off at both ends of the floor to wear Oscar down. Also Udeh was making Oscar fight for position.

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

The betting line feels like a trap. My instinct is to hammer KSU.

Nope, try again 🤑

Have to watch later. Since I can’t DVR it does anyone know when they put replays up on ESPN+?

@wissox typically right after it ends maybe 30 minute delay but online says immediately

@Zabudda Self mentioned both kj and Juan looking to score and being aggressive early……ding ding not that there was ever a doubt but the HOF is right on

@wissox generally it's immediately available.

@BShark @kuballin10 thanks

@wissox

While the game is going on if you login and go to the game it will show live... so you may be stuck with a spoiler situation. You can wear out your thumb clicking the game backwards a few seconds at a time.

Then after the game completes... minutes later you can select the game and start from the beginning.

This is how mine works... not sure if others experience something different.

I'm not sure how long games stay available on ESPN+. Does anyone know?

@cragarhawk I hope you're Rock Chalk Chanting at halftime!!

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

The betting line feels like a trap. My instinct is to hammer KSU.

The way we've played at home this season... yikes.

I do however think KSU is due for a major regression and could easily drop 5 or 6 of these final 10 games.

@jayballer67 To be fair, we have to have a few games on ESPN+ and they probably thought expected-to-be-in-
-last-place-KSU coming to AFH would barely be competitive.

I thot I saw a Puddy Tat....I did ! I did!

@mayjay said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@jayballer67 To be fair, we have to have a few games on ESPN+ and they probably thought expected-to-be-in-
-last-place-KSU coming to AFH would barely be competitive.

ya , I'm hearing tht more and more since I posted this - -and hadn't really thought about that - -it's ok. - However what - is each big 12 team locked into so mant ESPN plus games ? - - just curious/asking. Thanks

@jayballer67 I think that is correct. It is also true of the ACC, where if you look at Duke and UNC they also have a few on the ACC Network.

The big difference is that ESPN+ is a separate access payment, whereas in ACC territory (and much of the country) the ACC Network is part of the cable package.

Isn't this arrangement one of Zenger's "great" (snort) accomplishments?

@drgnslayr Thanks, can't begin watching until 9 and actually have the day off tomorrow so no early wake up call means I can wait for the replay to become available.

Wow, they had to turn some students away. Allen is gonna be incredible

@Kcmatt7 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

The betting line feels like a trap. My instinct is to hammer KSU.

The way we've played at home this season... yikes.

I do however think KSU is due for a major regression and could easily drop 5 or 6 of these final 10 games.

Yeah I really don't know. Some models still don't love KSU but they are tough and just keep winning. Their top 2 is really nice and the roleplayers can all actually play.

Lawrence has been buzzing all day. Saw a lot of students heading to AFH around 4:00 when I drove through campus.

Rock CHALK!

AintNoSeats

Favorite student I saw was wearing a Mitch Lightfoot jersey

LFG

RCJH

❤💙

🙌

JUANDO

Harris dumps one in the ocean

on pace for an 80-40 win

jw...

Oof rough start for Jalen

You have to make that

Nice pass Gradey!

i was impressed Jwill caught that pass

Ah this is going to be the game thread, didn't realize. I'll post here.

Gradey, when Nowell is on you, just shoot it...

2!

oof my feed went 1990 on my

bye, keyonte...

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Gradey, when Nowell is on you, just shoot it...

If he has half a step on anyone one, just shoot!

Not sure what to do about that shot.

Gotta hit that Gradey

Let go make a shot guys!

rebound guys

That’ll do

There we go

Nice job juan

They have had 3 or 4 shots already they gotta make.

@BeddieKU23 choosing to believe that getting good shots is a net positive even if they don’t all go down.

First time in awhile I'm having major issues with ESPN+ may need to try another device.

Gotta drive it and make them defend

ESPN box score has Cuffe in the game with an ORB????

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

First time in awhile I'm having major issues with ESPN+ may need to try another device.

Haven’t had any issues.

@benshawks08 Yeah very sure it's some kind of issue on my end.

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

ESPN box score has Cuffe in the game with an ORB????

They did that last game too

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

ESPN box score has Cuffe in the game with an ORB????

They make weird mistakes a lot in real time that get corrected later.

Happy students vs. angry hateful students at KSU. I know which I prefer.

we have maybe one board. Uck

@DanR Kevin has like 4

@benshawks08 he does now!

Udeh!!

now we're boarding

Udeh

Who Dey

Udeh

UDEH

Udeh….

Atta boy Kev

Udeh earned that foul.

Hey udeh your guy is open on consecutive plays

Self thinks one of those was on Gradey.

Udeh is finally starting to play “big”

That was a…favorable whistle.

Got it to work before the under 12 timeout...yay

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

That was a…favorable whistle.

🤫

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Udeh is finally starting to play “big”

loved that board and put back

Oh my we are definitely getting home cooking tonight lol

@BShark my WEF donation cleared!!

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Oh my we are definitely getting home cooking tonight lol

lol. i'm lovin' it!

Less KMac jumpers plz

Udeh bleh

That's a dumb foul

We'd be up a dozen if we could shoot

I'm ok with that Udeh foul

@DCHawker espn+scorers

Kev no

both teams shooting in the mid 30s%

Kev boo

T tang

Maybe Kev has too much confidence back

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Maybe Kev has too much confidence back

he got bumped. shoulda been 2 at the line...

Work it a lil

Kev and Harris both being aggressive but I’d love for jalen and Gradey to get a few more looks.

Blows my mind that Gradey doesn't at least touch the ball every offensive possession

@DanR he's out?

McCullar currently leading the team in points, rebounds, and assists.

Waiting on a loaf of bread to finish baking. Smells so good. And got a fire going.

Tang apoplectic! The Phog has that effect on people.

@Crimsonorblue22 If he touched it it would be a turnover but still a bold strategy.

When Gradey is IN, which he should be, clearly.

@DanR I know. And agree. Just joshin.

Tang has a lot of energy.

Juan no legs already?

@approxinfinity It's the culture of joy.

Tang looks like he should have a renovation show on HGTV

Come on make your shots

That was a good technical to take tbh

@BShark calls WERE going our way…

YES

JOE, BABY

Oh that was sexy

Joe and yes gonna cook the kittens.

Sure beats having to dig out of a big hole :-)

shoot it from half court if you want, Nowell

The bench came to play....

Two for pettiford and the much maligned bench!

Bullcrap makes

I don’t think the cats want this smoke

Raining threes

@approxinfinity said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

that's big

Blow them out

Wow Jalen!!!

SMOKING!

THAT is what we DO!

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@approxinfinity said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

that's big

That’s what she said.

Pedal to the metal boys

This is our house!!

JWill

KU 6/10 from 3. Nice

6-10 beyond the arc - just 3-10 from inside. Not sustainable, but will take it now...

That timeout did nothing to the crowd.

Good crowd tonight!

Oh man oh man oh man

I tried to delete the big BP logo too

Omg

Kj so smooth!

Gotta make fts woof

So weak

weak as hell

Bench is 3/5 from the field. RC

Keyonte is very good.

How is that not a jump ball?

Crowd is bringing it tonight!!

How long they wait?

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Keyonte is very good.

He's also 28 lol

@BeddieKU23 Lol

Older than Mitch?

Prison johnson

shooting better from three than from the field overall, both teams. 4-8 ksu/6-11 good guys from three

@Crimsonorblue22

He's only 22 but it feels older then that

Getting outrebounded 13-10, but KU only has 1 TO to 6 for the cats.

@BeddieKU23 didn't he get in trouble with a gal.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Prison johnson

Is that a goatee? …No wait, that’s something different.

Give KSU credit. They have 5 more TOs and we've hit 6 3s, but they are keeping it close. They are a solid team...

7 bench points

@Crimsonorblue22 Yes it's why a lot of schools stayed away.

5/7 and 6/9 freebies

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Give KSU credit. They have 5 more TOs and we've hit 6 3s, but they are keeping it close. They are a solid team...

Both of these teams are very good. Conference is loaded.

Not going to win this game without a full game effort for sure

Would not enjoy the Big12 nearly as much without Bill Self. Tough as nails

blahhhhhh

Kevin should have stole that

Jay he definitely dropped the shoulder lol

Ref show

kinda dumb KJ

Udeh is a walking running foul

need to score

Oh boy. This is the type of game k state wants. Fouls everywhere. Free throws for days.

Way to blow that lead in a minute a

we're letting them back in. we need to run some good offense...

The Higgins effect. He giveth and he taketh.

Tang tech definitely paid off lol

We were due to miss some free throws. But dang.

Make a damn ft

Keyonte on 3/2 fouls.

wasted a ten points of the 13 point lead. Pick up the pace, guys

His 3rd foul

Zach into the game because of Higgins lol

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

His 3rd foul

They took one away earlier.

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

His 3rd foul

broadcast is saying 2nd because they changed one

Zach should do OK

Hey hey

more like it

REF SHOW

OH MY HIGGINSED

Omg shut up ref. Just quit

what the F

What foul are they calling?!

Absolute madness.

for what breathing???

You just suck at your job

Higgins spend the day in a tanning booth? It's january

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Absolute madness.

So much for the early home
Cooking.

Those poor officials. Come on, Bilas.

Finish the half strong guys

nnice board, zach

Come on Gradey.

Dick still clanking

start crashing the O boards, guys

🙌

YES

Keep this pace going

JALEN

Jailin’ Wilson

Kelce likes

OMG, JAlen

JW FOR PREZ

ZACH ATTCK

Zach has not sucked.

zach is kicking ass

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INSANITY AND CHAOS WOW

Ok Zach. Have yourself some minutes.

Wow

Wow, hundy pace

Crazy effing game so far...

BEAU-TI-FUL

Zach at home is playable!

ZACH I NEVER DOUBTED YOU.

Next man up Zach💪

We scored like 7 points in 6 minutes then 3 straight threes

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Zach at home is playable!

He has a strong rebound, a couple solid defensive challenges and a made three. Play that anywhere if we can get it.

This version of Zach Clemence is what I've wanted to see from him all season and probably would've beaten Adams out for the 5 spot in camp.

10 bench pts. Alright

Besides the 3, Zach has been doing well. Guarding, disrupting, a block and a steal. Fantastic to see.

Both team have better shooting % from 3 than inside the arc...

Zach is messing them up on D for sure... got at least 2 turnovers with his active hands

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Both team have better shooting % from 3 than inside the arc...

Just a typical Big 12 game lolol

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Kcmatt7 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

The betting line feels like a trap. My instinct is to hammer KSU.

The way we've played at home this season... yikes.

I do however think KSU is due for a major regression and could easily drop 5 or 6 of these final 10 games.

Yeah I really don't know. Some models still don't love KSU but they are tough and just keep winning. Their top 2 is really nice and the roleplayers can all actually play.

I just feel like they’ve been on the positive side of poor shooting more nights than not. We are making shots right now, but it isn’t like we aren’t getting wide open looks.

They’ve caught almost everyone on poor shooting nights.

Who else on the bench wants to get in on this?

@DanR MJ?

The d has been so good.

A ZACC attact, who wud a thot it? Loved it!

Walk

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Zach is messing them up on D for sure... got at least 2 turnovers with his active hands

This is why I was such an advocate of his during the off-season. His ability to make 3's can spread the defense out and give driving lanes to Wilson, Harris, and McCullar which is their strengths.

Whatever

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Whatever

Keyonte is very good lol

I mean K St runs offense for 2 guys. They both jack tough shots that's their offense

@BShark Jalen trying to make sure everyone knows he’s better.

No way

what the hell is that foul

Stupid....

@DanR flop called on Joe

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

what the hell is that foul

Yesufu flopped trying to draw a foul on that 3.

The 2nd half will be awful from the refs

Zach keeping up some decent d.

Called a foul before he even touch3d him

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

The 2nd half will be awful from the refs

It's John Higgins, do you really expect anything different from him?

zach hedges so much better than udeh. it really stops nowell...

@Texas-Hawk-10 Bad shot compounded by the flop...

Need points here

come on, guys....

our end of clock game has been crappy. Let's fix it

Probably not gonna zone is now. But not a bad timeout for sure.

We never score on these. I hope this reverses it

@benshawks08 dang. Many good memories of lobs against the Baylor Summer League Zone

Why 8 coaches for KSUcks?

Refs kept KSU in this game, Bilas

@RockChalkinTexas acedemics

Thx Higgs

should have been no foul

Wish I knew what was and was not a foul.

Actually used his eyes

Wooo Jalen is such a beast

KU leads by 12 over the cats and the zebras

Feels like we should be up by 20 right now.

Jalen pacing for 30+. His new normal

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

KU leads by 12 over the cats and the zebras

Refs probably a net 0 that half. We got some calls early and then that last one. Stay tuned.

Love udeh's smile!

So, we've had 9 players score - 10 pts from the bench. Since when has that happened????

All nine KU players who've played have scored.

Enjoyed Udehs first board. Go go gadget arms

I'm excited kelce's there and cheering for us!

Here's hoping the team stays as 🔥 as the first half and as hot as it is up here in the rafters... Lol

My seat was there very top one. So much fun!

another screwed up "end of the clock" play but fortunatly JWill got the FT's to bail it out

@cragarhawk get me kelce's autograph and a hug, pretty please!

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

KU leads by 12 over the cats and the zebras

Refs probably a net 0 that half. We got some calls early and then that last one. Stay tuned.

just felt like they put their finger on the scale whenever we got amped up

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

So, we've had 9 players score - 10 pts from the bench. Since when has that happened????

Since Bill decided to play the bench a bit. I like it, keep guys fresh. Of course part of it with the bigs tonight is foul trouble.

WHO THIS KELCE?

I s he a basket ball player?

@BShark

A must to play the bench when keeping a lead the way they have. Now 2nd half he can play tighter if needed depending on fouls

@jessejayhawk
Front row (Bob Ueker voice)

@jessejayhawk did you see him out there playing?

Udeh & Zach have 5 pts, 4 boards, 3 blocks and 2 steals in 12 combined minutes. Also 3 fouls, but they get 10 and are backups. Fantastic from our bench bigs.

Pretty sure Kelce would pick up five fouls during the opening tip

@Crimsonorblue22 Saw him yesterday and loved it? Glad that he is a Jayhawk fan.

Going through the Wooden Award finalists, Jalen is probably the runner up as of right now to Edey at Purdue.

@DanR My guess is that it would be before the tip.

McCullar just 1-4 from the field - BUT, 7 RBs, 3 assts and 2 steals at the half. That's a glue guy...

@Texas-Hawk-10

Agree if he's not I don't know what people are watching

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark

A must to play the bench when keeping a lead the way they have. Now 2nd half he can play tighter if needed depending on fouls

I think we can get away with playing Joe and Bobby more and it also benefits the team keeping Juan fresher. I like seeing Bobby play more in place of Juan instead of next to him. Plays better to their strengths.

Are we sure Kelce is rooting for KU or just here for a competivie in-state rivalry game. Lots of Chiefs fans in kstate land

@DanR Just enjoying it because it's a big game I'm sure.

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@DanR Just enjoying it because it's a big game I'm sure.

Bucket List item

@BShark Hasn't he been to some games before?

@BShark

Agree Bobby doesn't look to score unless it's a layup so them playing together has hurt us. I know why Bill has used that lineup. Just not an optimal one

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark

A must to play the bench when keeping a lead the way they have. Now 2nd half he can play tighter if needed depending on fouls

I think we can get away with playing Joe and Bobby more and it also benefits the team keeping Juan fresher. I like seeing Bobby play more in place of Juan instead of next to him. Plays better to their strengths.

Agreed, because we can't really replace Kevin. He's our leading rebounder, as a 2-guard. He does things nobody else can.

@jessejayhawk he came with Mahomes once right?

Saw a win against nova there and mahomes, Brittany and Kelce and more Chiefs, plus George Brett. Patrick got up and got the crowd going! So many royals players go too. Fun to see them support us.

@RockChalkinTexas That's what I thot

@DanR self !

Bam

wowwww

3 on Johnson

Long arms

I'm not convince Nowell is a good passer

I just don't understand KJ at times

Red show.

Adventure time

Haha oh boy

Big man banging around

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Red show.

This was supposed to say ref.

Udeh catching better

Nice ball movement.

Late whistle. K

Oh my, lots of fouls on KSU again.

let them shoot desperation threes all night, I don't mind

Forcing Nowell to shoot from Topeka is good

If anyone drives, it’s a foul.

@BShark 😥😥😥😥

Udeh Fts are a lot like the doke experience was

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark 😥😥😥😥

Need another Tang tech lol

someone needs to take it right at Johnson...

Bullshit

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

If anyone drives, it’s a foul.

Like you said...

Just fall down.

fall down get a foul

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

someone needs to take it right at Johnson...

AGREE

Just noticed they only have 1 timeout left

Good job Kevin

Higgins really showing off his clown suit tonight

Wow that 3 by Harris was so far off

Brick by Juan. Jeez wide open

Harris needs to work on his shot. That's just ugly

I much prefer Bilas’ coaching to Fran’s. Sounds intelligent from time to time. lol.

Yikes

When Juan is throwing the ball at the basket i think we could use some Bobby P time

Higgins break a leg

Refs sending a message. Don’t guard.

Foul harder. Might as well draw some blood

Udeh is doing some work down low

@approxinfinity he’s tall.

Glad Udeh is getting some run

@approxinfinity glad Coach left him in

Looked pretty set.

My God this is awful

@benshawks08 indeed. Like a breath of fresh mountaintop air

man, f this ref

Clank clank

We may run out of bigs

let them play refs

On pace for 30 fouls this half. On just KU

That ref just has it out for us

Quit sticking hands in there

Biggest issue right now is we just aren't scoring enough.

@BShark no game flow. These refs are no fun.

@BShark

37%. As usual it's the biggest issue

Or rebounding misses and they are making throws

I really hope Tang sticks around. Fun character.

@BShark Juan has been bad - correlation most
Important player

Nowell dominating him

Gradey with loose pass

we look like we got up and thought it was over at half

@approxinfinity Seems to be a great coach

@approxinfinity he'll move on

@kuballin10 bet we look sharper out of this timeout.

I knew you'd blame juan

@Crimsonorblue22 player with most responsibility per coach so yes, held to higher standard

Juan least hit 1 three early and was aggressive but that pass and his passive three were bad

Dude needs swag and some confidence

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Are we sure Kelce is rooting for KU or just here for a competivie in-state rivalry game. Lots of Chiefs fans in kstate land

He's a Cincy Bearcat, probably doesn't care too much who wins, just there because it's a big game and he had the time to make it.

Nice cut

KEV

heady bb there by zach

KEVIN

Kevin Young was behind Gradey!!

@approxinfinity wouldn’t take that bet in a million years

We are better than ksu

Now tcu, Baylor, isu and Texas I’m not sure

Bill just got really excited by that last play lmao

What the hell. Zach is looking good!

@kuballin10 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

We are better than ksu

Now tcu, Baylor, isu and Texas I’m not sure

TCU at full power is the best team in the league I think.

@kuballin10 we have looked better though. We often look better after the first tv timeout. Its a good bet to make.

Jalen the run stopper

tomlin pushes off every time

Good

@BShark I agree wish we had Miller dudes a stud

Tcu’s miller
Bama’s miller
UFC’s stud

We need a dude like that next year

Come on Zac make ur free throw u ain’t no shooter
Geez weak d not shocked

good foul, kev

Good job Kevin

actually looked pretty clean

Whoever posted about Kevin’s smile at Baylor was post of the year

Kevin needs to quit worrying about calls and just play

Juandooooo

keep pushing tempo

Only problem here is Joe isn't a great ft shooter

Go right back at Nowell

I hope Yesefu's minutes are about over

@FarmerJayhawk that was a bad call lol geez he’s sliding right snd ksu guys making a step around him

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

I hope Yesefu's minutes are about over

He's a wild one.

@BShark good jinx

bobby-joe combo now

Both teams in the bonus already, Higgins and company are winning this game.

Good d on zach

Shit like that is why Bill loves Bobby.

@kuballin10 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@BShark joe isn’t good @Texas-Hawk-10 was right caught lightning in a bottle for the tourney

He’s okay as a 9th man but Rice is more what we are accustomed to if he was up to speed

Great D by Zach even though the dude traveled around the world to get that shot off

Great D!

@kuballin10 rice has guarded someone in me time so far this year. At least joe puts pressure on the ball.

@BShark what did I miss?

Shocking how nice it was to watch the UK-KU game without refs mucking it up every 10 seconds (that Tsheibwe was in the lane)

@benshawks08 haha you ain’t lying bro!

Rice semi guarded at uk for 1 whole possession then was bad

Joe definitely a quick dude but his J is whack….hope he turns it on for the tourney

@kuballin10 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark what did I miss?

Nose for the ball. Ran over on a rebound and then tapped the ball off a KSU player to steal possession.

very impressed with zach's performance tonight. he's done a lot of things right.

Keep on running

Love how the cats fans not dropping f bombs is still a story lol

@BShark if that’s what gets Bill going then no wonder Bobby plays cause hustle plays are good but I’ll take a better player with hustle…..Bobby all hustle no skill

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

very impressed with zach's performance tonight. he's done a lot of things right.

Udeh too.

Tang got schooled about the hatred at the home game against KU

We'll look at that

BP

FFS

@kuballin10 great timing lol

OK, Bobby!

PLEASE BE OKAY BOBBY

NOWS HE HURT

Pettiford tweaked a hamstring on the blow by

DICK AT THE HOLE

First stud drive in a long time and hurt

Dudes always hurt - hope he’s okay. Least he running the 1

Ohhhh boy Dick's 4th

you'd think the KU athletic department could get some skintone-appropriate bandaids.

Man we attacking let’s go

Bill with Bobby at the 1 - Hall of Fame is reading my texts

Can u fricking say anything positive?

UP 15...

did he even get touched

I don't like Joe's shot....

Joe's shot is off centered as hell

@DCHawker said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

I don't like Joe's shot....

It's so ugly

Here we go again

Come on, let's bury them now

JUANDOOOOO

JUANDO

Juan u suck so bad

Zach has been a dude in this game too

DaJuan almost got the steal on the inbound too, LOL

Oh no

KJ's hand

Walking wounded

Weird lineup alert

@Texas-Hawk-10 kevin

Kj at the 4?

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Kj at the 4?

Yes!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Texas-Hawk-10 kevin

Meant Kevin

Juando getting his mojo back is a thing of beauty

Bobby back??

38 fouls called and a lot of game left

Let's go Bobby

F you ref

must have been 20 seconds without a whistle

Niiiiice

WHAT FOUL

KJ with the dissschhh

Kj is such a good passer.

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

KJ with the dissschhh

Kjraymond Green

Omfg this guy has to be fired

BS

refs are trying everything possible to keep kitties in it

A ref who should be watching the game from his recliner at home

@DanR like me, I'm an excellent ref from here

What a sick pass by kj there he got fouled but it worked out

Really need Kevin to be okay. Almost goes without saying but yeah...

Now at 40 fouls

This is a typical John Higgins game. They are always clunky because his Crews almost always call very tight games.

Nice cut from that awful unathletic Bobby

I don't care if they call fouls. But half of these are just totally irrelevant nonsense. Don't effect the play, don't blow the whistle

Kev 👀

How long for Udeh?

First one to 82 wins.

You don't need that finger, Kev

No blood no foul!

If they live, no foul!

I like all of these. Until they foul us.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Kev 👀

Thank goodness

Nice KJ

KJ with sweet touch in the paint

@DanR It really takes away from the game.

Kev’s shot is fine

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Kev’s shot is fine

Good one lol

two bigs in there we need some boards

So sloppy

Ease up wilson

@BShark fine for Kev 😂

put gradey back in...

Go get it guys

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

put gradey back in...

Yeah it's time. If he fouls out w/e.

big couple minutes here to close this out

@Crimsonorblue22 One more foul.

Big!

Stay focused guys

Good job, Kev

Kev is a star

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

put gradey back in...

Passed on that opportunity. I’m still like quagmire here. I’d have used his first name. Gigidy.

They are running some good action and getting good shots...

Kevin has an amazing effect on the defense. So long and smart.

pretty good D even though they got that shot up

44% FT shooter just drilled both sure.

He did

@dylans and when he makes some 3s, so good

@BShark They've made 25-30...

Dumb foul

Love to have key players fouling out like the last game against KSU. WOOF.

just drive and fall down. they'll call it.

63 FTs tonight dang

Gradey can’t make a layup to save his life.

we need kev back in the lineup...

At this point, just drive hard and draw fouls...

More missed point blank layups

at least we ran some time off the clock

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Gradey can’t make a layup to save his life.

Literally bricks them

@dylans tbf he did get fouled

@DanR key use the clock

i'd rather be up 10 than down 10 right now...

And our ball

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

at least we ran some time off the clock

Between that rebound and the immediate turnover we stole a lot of time off the clock.

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

i'd rather be up 10 than down 10 right now...

Analysis

They went a whole 14 seconds without calling a foul

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

i'd rather be up 10 than down 10 right now...

Analysis

hard hitting stuff...

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@dylans tbf he did get fouled

On that one. He’s pretty weak around the bucket too. Amazing shot and great instincts, just can’t make a bunny.

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

i'd rather be up 10 than down 10 right now...

Analysis

hard hitting stuff...

Apply to ESPN.

@BeddieKU23 Whistle mal function

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

i'd rather be up 10 than down 10 right now...

Analysis

hard hitting stuff...

Apply to ESPN.

I might be too much indepth for them...lol.

JUAN

Big 12 always looks easy for teams first time around

juan...dagger

Start the chant

Higgins??!

I just cant

This is dumb. College officiating is fundamentally broken.

ref, what, are you kidding me

...and that's 50 points scored from the line in this game.

It's been broken but this is beyond

KSU - 29-34 FTs - effing incredible..

Woof NGuessan

rubber backboards

Clank

Finish them good lord

Juan

lob goes in

Why was Gradey on Johnson?

Juando icing it

Nice to see Juan and Bobby look good together

ROCKK CHALLLK JAYYHAWWWK KYOUUUUUU

This Harris fellow is decent

great team effort...LOVE THIS TEAM

Great finish from juando

Kid sucks so bad!

Anyone understand that chant from the crowd?

Good guys win again!

Let's go Jayhawks?

@benshawks08 a friend in the crowd said Little Brother lmao

Huge win

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@benshawks08 a friend in the crowd said Little Brother lmao

Oh that's epic

WE gotta Juan when we needed it.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@benshawks08 a friend in the crowd said Little Brother lmao

Seemed clear even on ESPN+ to me.

This W (knock on wood) took the whole team.

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Huge win

NOT OVER YET :p

@cragarhawk is having a blast!💙❤️🌾🌾🌾 wonder if he got my autograph and hug?🥰

Wow wilson

Let’s ice this one and chant away

all the passion without the hatred

@DanR no naughty words!

@DanR Due to lack of inferiority complex...

Juan just being silly now

Juan in his bag.

Rock Chalk alll day long babyyyyyy @jayballer67

Could have blocked that all night, DaJuan

@DanR I hate then with a passion.

Higgins has to get his quota

Theres @cragarhawk

Love 2 c Higgins remain awful in garbage time.

Just quit man. You can't do the job

More chant time with each stupid foul call. thanks refs!

70 free throws. Cool.

The chant 🥰🥰🥰

Need to get Juando one more layup

This was a really good win tonight!

Should have shot it, Juando

nice win, guys. looked very smooth...

Rockchalktagon of Juan

Great dub

Great game for the soul. Those boys played hard

@DanR said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Should have shot it, Juando

Svi would’ve! Lol

Zach, Udeh, bobby, even Lil' Joe helped

This game is over.

RIP, Billy.

EJ would have dunked it. Tyshawn as well.

Lots of bench minutes and 19 pts. Great game bench

@BShark Elmarko?

@mayjay said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

This game is over.

RIP, Billy.

Aw man. Nice reference. RIP

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark Elmarko?

Elijah Johnson lol

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark Elmarko?

I don’t mind a little bad blood. 😈

Great win. Texas now the only team with 2 losses but they have at K-State and at KU their next 2 games.

19 points from tthe bench. Great job guys

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark Elmarko?

Elijah Johnson lol

Oh yeah. I gotcha. I just was wondering what kinda dog Elmarko is.

Good luck charm Travis!

7-21 (kstate) vs 11-27 from three by the good guys. Lots of threes.

@jessejayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

19 points from tthe bench. Great job guys

Need more of that! Udeh being playable is huge.

oversold tickets to the student section....geez...

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Love Mitch.

No over time needed. This team has improved over the last 2 weeks.

71 freethrows. Stupid.

@RockChalkinTexas pretty sure he went to locker room!

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@jessejayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

19 points from tthe bench. Great job guys

Need more of that! Udeh being playable is huge.

Bill finding out we can play him without dying out there could be a game changer.

Landen on the postgame! He’s great, especially compared to Gueldner

@BShark

3 pts, 6 boards, 3 blocks, 4 fouls. I'll take that line pretty much every game

@FarmerJayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Landen on the postgame! He’s great, especially compared to Gueldner

Want him back to coach the bigs so badly.

Kansas now leads the series 204-95. As a reminder, the 204 wins are the most by one school over another in D1 basketball history.

@FarmerJayhawk Gueldner is awesome. Great analysis. Love Landen too, though.

@BeddieKU23 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark

3 pts, 6 boards, 3 blocks, 4 fouls. I'll take that line pretty much every game

Yeah just be big, don't get lost too much and steal some minutes.

@Crimsonorblue22 Good friend of mine is married to a 4th generation KSU grad. He's in the :dog: :house: tonight XD

Bench stood up tonight

@BShark

Thought he did a lot better tonight playing to his size. Baby steps

@BShark said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@dylans said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@jessejayhawk said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

19 points from tthe bench. Great job guys

Need more of that! Udeh being playable is huge.

Bill finding out we can play him without dying out there could be a game changer.

The technical term for not trusting young bigs is called "Lightfoot Syndrome"

It's a terrible disorder where the skeleton tries to leap out of the mouth and escape the body

@approxinfinity said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Rock Chalk alll day long babyyyyyy @jayballer67

ROCK CHALK BUDDY - - ALLLLL DAY LONG

ESPN+ Tip: change the channel when the game is over, or it will run the same commercials continuously.

@BShark I dont

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@BShark I dont

We need a big man coach that played the position. Development hasn't been the same for awhile.

Frosty! Nickname for Higgins

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Frosty! Nickname for Higgins

Fits him perfectly!

@Jethro go to post game

@Jethro

It scrolls that YOUR EVENT HAS ENDED...........over and over again

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It was nice to get revenge on little brother, but for the KC/KU fans in the last 13 months or so - beat Duke, North Carolina, Villanova, Indiana, Kentucky, won a national championship, went to a bowl game, and the pro-football team is headed to the Super Bowl.

Next game.

Travis Kelce will never go to Bramlage to see them play.

Rock Chalk with :50 to go. I'll take it. Absolutely awesome atmosphere tonite. Great win

@RockChalkinTexas said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

Travis Kelce will never go to Bramlage to see them play.

That place is a dump. I don’t like walking in at the top. Vertigo city for me.

Tang needs to brush up on his basketball history. He just said KSU went to more final 4s than KU before 1988. 4 < 7.

In the post game presser Tang just said KSU led KU in final fours up until 1988. - fact check time - By 1987 KU had 7 final fours. KSU has 4 all time. Bill Self has 4 so far.

@tundrahok lol post overlap.

Really want someone to ask a dumb question of Juan. He’s so brutally honest it’s refreshing.

MJ was a no go, per Self

@BShark but he looks so bad in practice isn’t Bill shocked he’s somehow been manageable in a game?

Juan flat out stepped up. Nowell turned it over 5 times and didn’t shoot it well

Juan was a stud tonight that’s the guy we need night in and night out

Big 12 basketball is like SEC football. Only if there were no bad teams and everyone played each other…twice. Brutal. Amazing. Battle tested.

@kuballin10 Nowell got some points but super inefficient. Lots of bail out calls on drives. CLAMPS from Juan.

Well that was fun. Something came up so I couldn’t watch 2nd half. Sounds like a repeat of the first half. Lots of fouls. Worried me with our thin bench.

Saw some twitter talk about Higgins the other day. He worked a west coast game Sat night and then did a big ten game early Sunday afternoon. Maybe he’s not a bad ref but just tired.

Love what CS is doin with Juan. Take the ball out of his hands for spells to save his legs. Then use those legs to actually look to score. It's giving the team a new dynamic I think we're gonna enjoy the hell out of.

Bench was pretty great tonite overall. Can only hope these things go a long way over the last 9 weeks of the season here

@Jethro said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

ESPN+ Tip: change the channel when the game is over, or it will run the same commercials continuously.

That's where fran practices his on air coaching skills

@RockChalkinTexas said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro

It scrolls that YOUR EVENT HAS ENDED...........over and over again

For me it puts it on the same commercial again and again....

Best play of the game?

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Remarkable stat - JW, Gradey and McCullar made just 2 buckets inside the arc - 2-18! - and we win by 12...

@DCHawker KJ on the bench meant 👎 action in the paint. Gonna need Udeh to be a more reliable backup.

@Jayblaze said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@DCHawker KJ on the bench meant 👎 action in the paint. Gonna need Udeh to be a more reliable backup.

He had 6 rebounds and 3 blocks in 10 minutes. I don’t know what more you can ask of a freshman big man.

And then we were +18 on the floor with Zach last night.

If we get this level of play from the backups most nights we are going to be tough to beat.

@Kcmatt7 Yeah, good point. KJ definitely impacted the game. Just trying to explain the overall low scoring from inside. This was his first game not to light it up in awhile.

@Jayblaze getting 16ish points from our big men has been about the right number all season when we are playing well.

KJ only got 4 in both of the losses to TCU and Baylor. So you’re right, when the bigs don’t score we definitely struggle. But last night we really did get about our season average, it just took a lot of guys to do it 😂

@Kcmatt7 Who do you think you are, confronting me with FACTS! I think I'll just carry on in my alternate reality, thanks. 😁

I'm sure Bill got very excited when Zach finished through contact but yeah we don't need much from our bigs. KJ did still almost get his average while being limited due to fouls and such. As few minutes as I can remember him playing in quite awhile. Probably since a non-con blowout if I had to guess. Most of our scoring and rebounding for that matter comes from the wings.

@Jethro I hope you're not payton patterson because that post is pretty trollish.

@Jayblaze said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Kcmatt7 Who do you think you are, confronting me with FACTS! I think I'll just carry on in my alternate reality, thanks. 😁

Way to go Jayblaze. Keep posting so these other people have to go look up stuff. It gives them something to do. I say and post stuff all the time that I think might be right but I'm not certain. I just rely on others to figure out if I know anything at all. "You know nothing Stop the Flop."

@wissox said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Jethro I hope you're not payton patterson because that post is pretty trollish.

You'll have to take that up with Elon, sir. I'm not the Twitter monitor.

This crap is just idiotic. - -I guess there is some K/State people talking crap on Travis Kelce cause he was at KU last night.- - One poster on their site says : - - Travis Kelce was at KU last night - -Remember that - -omg people Seriously. - -your dogging the guy for being at the game ? lmao

Big SHOUT-OUT to Zach and Ernest! Both offered big help and did it in different ways!

Thank you to "Mr. Double-Double" Kevin! 12 FTs! He battled hard to get to the line that much!

Thank you to the whole squad for controlling this game from the opening whistle!

I also follow assists. Juan was very low for him (2)... but we had JWil and Kevin with 4 a piece. Very good to see others sharing and not having to count so much for Juan to always feed the assists (he was busy scoring 18 points!).

@stoptheflop I basically consider everyone on this site my research assistant.

I thought Clemence had a nice game, his body language was also positive.

@AsadZ apparently i just needed to publicly indicate that i had written him off for him to turn it around and make me eat crow. Kids! Who can figure them out?

@approxinfinity Board Rats! Who can figure them out? 😁

@approxinfinity I hope he sticks around. With J Wil, McCullar and possible Grady departing, I can see him being a valuable contributor next year. Based on wing situation, it is possible Self goes back to 3-2 next year.

@AsadZ i dont think we will ever go back to 3-2. But being able to shoot the 3 is everything there, i see your point.

@approxinfinity If KJ develops a decent outside game in the offseason, do you envision Self playing Clemence and KJ together consistently. It could be a hybrid 3-2.

@AsadZ No, based on what Bill’s said. We may in a small spurt for 1 random game here or there but starting lineups and major minutes no.

Bill has said he recruits the best players now and has changed recruiting from “hey we need a 4 or a 5 man” to “hey we need to recruit 4 guards, all who can shoot, 1 who is a true pg and 1 with some height” - jayhawk podcast I posted a week or so ago.

He’s gone full fledged 4 out 1 in like many have.

@kuballin10

Our three 2023 recruits are a PG, CG and SG. They only differ by 1" or 5 pounds. The clone class.

@Zabudda exactly and all can shoot!

Need that 1 more guard who’s 6-7 to 6-9 and athletic whether jwill or Josh Jackson something

Kj and udeh/Zuby at the 5 plus maybe a transfer and we are set

I thin Gradey stays but even though he’s 6-8 he’s not able to guard a 4 man

@kuballin10 I do think there’s a chance KJ slides over to the 4. He’s such a good passer and defender. He’s show some driving capabilities and we all know self is not shy about playing non-shooters. Especially if he’s paired with Zach who has the green light from 3, I see some potential for that line up to get some time. We saw it for a brief moment during either the Kentucky or kstate game. Can’t remember which.

I think a big part of self trying to will Juan into becoming a threat from 3 is to allow him to be more flexible with KJ. KJ is such a unique piece with his strength, speed and lateral quickness o just don’t see him coming off the floor for extended minutes. At the same time, Udeh, Zach and zuby are going to HAVE to be played as they continue to develop.

With JWill, Kevin, and Gradey all likely gone next year there’s definitely an opening at the 3/4 wing spot and Bill is already confident that KJ can guard that position and switch 1-5 so to me it’s his to lose next year.

Dick is not coming back if he’s a 1st round pick. And he will be one.

@kuballin10 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Zabudda exactly and all can shoot!

Need that 1 more guard who’s 6-7 to 6-9 and athletic whether jwill or Josh Jackson something

Kj and udeh/Zuby at the 5 plus maybe a transfer and we are set

I thin Gradey stays but even though he’s 6-8 he’s not able to guard a 4 man

Dick is going to be a lottery pick this year, he ain't coming back, nor should he return because he'll be making a lot more in the NBA than he would with NIL money next season. McCullar would be the one to keep an eye on returning as he's a fringe NBA pick and would likely make more in NIL than whatever pro league he'd be in next year, but even then I'mnot sure he'll be back.

@Texas-Hawk-10 does Kevin have eligibility?

@benshawks08 said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

@Texas-Hawk-10 does Kevin have eligibility?

I believe he has his covid year if he wants it.

I'm not sure gradey leaves. He's loving his life now. Struggling a lil in bb. Doesn't need more money. Probably doesn't want to be in the G league. Kinda immature! I know, I'm a dork.

He's still mocking in the lottery. We have had some shocking returns over the years and this would be right up there. I see the angles for why he may look at another year but if your in the lottery, Self is going to be advocating for you to go.

I don't see Dick being anywhere near a 1st round pick in this draft. He shows potential... but he's not physically at all near playing in the NBA. He's struggling still in college.

It would be a huge mistake... like it was if JWil left last year, or Och the year before.

@BeddieKU23 I think this is where the NIL could help us. Think of guys like Josh Selby dude has a ton of potential and showed it a few times. Got a stress fracture the second half of the year, fell off most draft boards went second round and disappeared. He pretty much had to go with his family living in poverty. If that was today he could get a hundred thousand and stay then move to a lottery pick. I personally think dick stays another year.

@drgnslayr said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

I don't see Dick being anywhere near a 1st round pick in this draft. He shows potential... but he's not physically at all near playing in the NBA. He's struggling still in college.

It would be a huge mistake... like it was if JWil left last year, or Och the year before.

Dick is gone and ain't coming back after this season. His deficiencies aren't things that get corrected as quickly as they do in the NBA. Physical development comes with age and time and he'll have a lot more time in the NBA than at KU to keep developing. The NBA is also fast paced enough that his shooting is what's going to keep him in the league for awhile. If he has the work ethic to develop other areas of his game as a pro, then he could become a star in the NBA. Other than selfishness in wanting to see him in a KU uniform next year, there's not a great reason to advise him not to go. He's a projected lottery pick in one of the stronger drafts in recent history, he needs to go make that money.

Gradey? Too early to say if he will leave but he should significantly up his shooting results. He is still getting by on his laurels but not stunning with results. NBA teams know all that stuff so I won't be surprised either way.

@drgnslayr said in Sunflower Showdown Redeux:

I don't see Dick being anywhere near a 1st round pick in this draft. He shows potential... but he's not physically at all near playing in the NBA. He's struggling still in college.

It would be a huge mistake... like it was if JWil left last year, or Och the year before.

It is a huge mistake to get drafted in the lottery??

Gradey has one overwhelmingly attractive skill... fast, high, and efficient shot release.

Granted... he will gain more skills quickly... but he has a boy's body. I even question his lung strength in college ball because he doesn't seem to put up good numbers in the second half. Tired?

He plays below-grade defense.

He's not a great finisher at the rim.

He's still learning to create scoring space.

Passing... fair.

Speed... average.

How long before he can earn NBA minutes? I think most (or all) NBA teams expect a lottery pick to earn minutes in their first year. I don't see how he could be on a court with NBA players in his first year.

More than anything else he needs conditioning... strength and endurance. He can best do this in college, instead of scooting around in G-league.

Within a year or two we won't even be able to identify him as the same player... kind of like JWil.