All coaches with Texas in their school name are corrupt. Today is a classic good vs. evil matchup. It's US-USSR olympic hockey in Lake Placid style good/evil.
I think Kev should sit (maybe he will anyways).
I really never thought this team would be good enough to challenge for a NC but the combo of Wilsons brilliance, DaJuans awesome floor game, and KJ recovering the lost mojo we're back to being a scary matchup for every team out there.
In our FF years we've won the league tourney 3 of the last 6 times. When it was just the Big 8 we won in 86, but didn't in any of the of the FF years of 88, 91, 93. So in our last 10 FF seasons, we've only won the league tournament 4 times. I guess you could conclude todays game is not that important.
But in my mind todays game is always most important no matter what the calendar reads.
I can manipulate stats with the best of them.
Clearly to win the national championship todays game is a must win. Bill has lost in every final four heās made and not won the big 12 tournament title.
But I know that since I've been breathing Jayhawk Crimson and Blue they've won 3 national championships in years ending in 8 or 2, and should have won one in years ending in 3
I think we are in good shape today. This team just beat us a week ago, BS is having health issue and itās for a trophy.
:folded_hands:
Something that bodes well for this team...
KU won their first two conference tournament games by double digits. When KU has done this the results are 2x S16, 2x FF, national champion. One of those S16s is the Arizona game too..
@wissox 8-8 the last 16 (17 years).
ACC tournament is ridiculously difficult from what I can tell. 1 ACC tournament win vs 5 national titles
SEC - 2 SEC titles vs 3 national titles
Big12 - 2 Big12 titles vs 3 national titles
Big East - 3 Big East titles vs 5 National titles
I wonder how coaches feel about their league tournament? I'd guess most find it to be a bother.
By the way, this is rich.
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I like our chances today. I don't think we've played our best game yet. The defense has been sensational, and the passing has been tremendous.
They gave a stat this Morning on ESPN. - -For KU this is our 16th Championship Big 12 tourney appearance. That's TWICE as many as any other School in the Big 12 , Texas has EIGHT. - That is Dominance
@jayballer67 If Texas has 8 appearance then they have 7 losses. Random fact of the day - Texas is the only non-big 8 member to win the big12 so far.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@BShark not good!
If we lose today, no NCAAT game threads for @wissox :face_with_tongue:
@BShark said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@BShark not good!
If we lose today, no NCAAT game threads for @wissox :face_with_tongue:
Shoot, no game threads! (No pressure @wissox) ;)
@Crimsonorblue22 Send me a bribe. I missed two games and KU got blown out by 15+ each game. Clearly they missed my mojo! š
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@BShark this is a big deal to me! Have we been winning or not?
We did lose to Texas with a @BShark game thread. Could be good mojo to get another option going!
Also no offense but Iām also partial to the games where @wissox makes his own and just comments just to himself for about 15 minutes before joining the other thread⦠lol.
We good.
@benshawks08 I can do that too.
McCullar officially out for today.
Dang my curse on the team is already being felt.
Start kj at the 4?
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Start kj at the 4?
Nope.
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Beat UTš
RockChalk ā¤š
PAY BACK
Let's get it
No Timmy Allen is big
@BeddieKU23 but they played w/o him last night
@RockChalkinTexas Still a top 4 guy for them. Both sides wounded it seems.
For us it's big. He's been a pita matchup
Fran picked us.
@BeddieKU23 He has a burnt orange tie on š¤¦āāļø
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Fran picked us.
Kiss of death I'm afraid.
Do we always watch the anthem?
Nah we're good. We'll get this one for Self and then repeat.
Eeeeek.
Gradey trying to hold it together. Lol.
We're doomed, Fran picked us and I started the game thread.
Great anthem until that home of the chiefs crap.
Itās a hard song.
Too bad Dick has to spend the next two hours with the Cubs announcer. Seemed like Norm liked the anthem.
When did they get all this tape from bill?
@benshawks08 Before Tournament
Letās go joe. Show what you got.
Good hustle Gradey.
Gonna have to make some shots guys.
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Gonna have to make some shots guys.
One would think
Early foul on Jalen.
Feels like we either play stifling d or give up WIDE open shots.
What kind of defense was that?
Lol at Dickie V "Joe can really shoot the ball"
uh no
Dumb foul
Disu could be a problem.
Boo, our ball.
Play d instead of watching the replay boys.
need heighth
Getting pushed around.
Really missing Kevin on D. Way to easy for Texas to get to the rim uncontested
Need to play some defense. No focus on simple plays
pick up the energy, guys.
Gonna have to get rice in there for size
@stoptheflop said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Really missing Kevin on D. Way to easy for Texas to get to the rim uncontested
Yep Kevin is elite on that end and Joe is average at best.
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Gonna have to get rice in there for size
I'm ready for some #KJatthe4 already @benshawks08
Count me in with the "put kj at the four" with Udeh crowd. This is way too easy for Texas
@DanR said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Count me in with the "put kj at the four" with Udeh crowd. This is way too easy for Texas
Welcome.
Juan on Rice is good
What a pass.
Yeah Joe is a problem for us defensively.
Leaving guys wide open and daring them to shoot is not my favorite strategy.
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Leaving guys wide open and daring them to shoot is not my favorite strategy.
missing wide open threes sucks too on the other end
Udeh better be coming in
Rebound
I hate Timmy Allen.
Tired legs on d
not a great effort so far. defense needs to tighten up.
@DanR said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Leaving guys wide open and daring them to shoot is not my favorite strategy.
missing wide open threes sucks too on the other end
Especially when he shoots them sideways
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Tired legs on d
Also Joe in general :grimacing_face:
2 on Disu
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
2 on Disu
Love that.
Norm line-ups, lol
Now they call 3 seconds?
bobby with the ankle pass...
DH, BP and JY all on floor at same time?
Bobby my god
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
DH, BP and JY all on floor at same time?
NORM
OH MY
Honestly Joe is better with the ball in his hands. Not as good as a spot up.
FINALLY
Bobby. Good god.
@benshawks08 Joe has 7 pts. He's doing OK
bobby, just pass it to someone else
@stoptheflop said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@benshawks08 Joe has 7 pts. He's doing OK
I agree. Just saying he does t seem as comfortable in sets. Better when he can just free lance.
what ever happened to good bobby?
Or just don't play him. That's the solution
Juan and Gradey need to bring it on offense.
@Jethro said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
what ever happened to good bobby?
I love the guy and have been a huge supporter of his but man heās unplayable right now.
I was making up a delicious home made italian beef sandwich and may have missed something. Where is Gradey?
Bobby has trouble just dribbling smh come on man pick it up.
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
I was making up a delicious home made italian beef sandwich and may have missed something. Where is Gradey?
Norm wanted to see what would happen if we went even smaller.
I'd rather have MJ in there than Bob at this point sadly.
Dam we have got to get Bobby out a turnover looking for a place to happen
why does Bobby dribble it like 6 inches off the floor?
@BShark said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
I'd rather have MJ in there than Bob at this point sadly.
I unfortunately agree. Iāve lost all confidence I used to have in Bobby.
@DanR said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
why does Bobby dribble it like 6 inches off the floor?
This is usually an advantage.
He just doesn't have any confidence and his handles are awful
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
He just doesn't have any confidence and his handles are awful
Didnāt that used to be his strength?
Young dudes either have the stamina or not
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
He just doesn't have any confidence and his handles are awful
He's trying to play too fast. he never has his body underneath himself- he's always leaning too far
Way to stay in there MJ.
They might want to double JWILL
Oh no
Andā¦.
Bill wouldn't have been smiling there.
Omg mj
Coach would have pulled him
And causes a foul
Well feel like we are playing terrible and are still right there. Opposite of last game.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Coach would have pulled him
Deserves it
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Coach would have pulled him
Norm should honestly lol
MJ!!
RICE
Juan, Gradey and KJ have got to get going on offense.
Big shot
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
MJ!!
Let's not too excited - he is still clueless on the court - unfortunately....
Grad3y needs his pink shoes
Gradey. Thatās not it.
God j will is good.
Carry. Lol.
Canāt really complain about the refs to this point.
DOG FIGHT
first carry call of the year in all of basketball ever
M J - -not to bad
Mj makes a shot and all of a sudden the effort level goes up
I bet my Longhorn neighbor can hear me with my door open!!
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Mj makes a shot and all of a sudden the effort level goes up
He still looked like a 7 foot center dribbling the ball across half court, looking for someone to pass it to
can jw score 75? anybody else want to make a basket?
The two teams are so even stat wise that when we do a bad thing they do too.
@BeddieKU23 confidence is huge for theses young guys, probably just what he needed
@DanR said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Mj makes a shot and all of a sudden the effort level goes up
He still looked like a 7 foot center dribbling the ball across half court, looking for someone to pass it to
i held my breath
@Jethro said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
can jw score 75? anybody else want to make a basket?
I'll give it a try lol. - - - Joe hss 7
@jayballer67 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@Jethro said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
can jw score 75? anybody else want to make a basket?
I'll give it a try lol. - - - Joe hss 7
i meant juan, gradey, kj. joe has been good joe so far. except on defense.
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Mj makes a shot and all of a sudden the effort level goes up
All the Selden parallels are there. I really do hope he stays, think he can be solid.
Considering we're playing on three cylinders at best, we could be in a lot worse shape, score wise
Shaq is a large man. Met him once at LSU. He's a large man.
Grad3y is at his best stretching leads.
GRADEY ALWAYS LISTENS TO ME
Bobby struggling on d too.
I hope Bill was ordered by his doctor not to watch
omg...mccullar, where art thou?
My compliments to the board: no dick jokes so far
OMGWILL
JW- the legend grows....
Playing the letās see if j will can win on his own game.
Joe is still the second highest scorer for us at 7
Dick is tired.
Not a bad run with Juan on the bench.
Why aren't we guarding the 3. Jeez
Joes shot reminds me of Luis Tiant pitching for all you old geezers who can remember him.
Missed too many there
Both teams look gassed as to be expected 3 straight games
I wish they'd show Gradey's parents after he misses a shot like that.
the good news is our starters can go the whole game, because they have to. the bad news? it really sucks on the 3rd straight night of tournaments. there have been Tenn vibes in this game. terrible defense. listless on offense.
Wilson got fouled
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Absolutely hammered and no call sure
Gotta make the close ones guys
Brutal turn of events there
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@Jethro Luckily this is the last time this team will be playing 3 games in 3 days.
agreed.
Gradey Dick obviously is not physically ready for the NBA schedule
We need Juando and Gradey to wake up here
@stoptheflop said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
My compliments to the board: no dick jokes so far
if you think about it every comment can be twisted into one.
Yay, there's Fran! barf
That was a bad sequence for Ernest
Travel
2 missed dunks by Udeh
Udeh misses his 2nd shot since November
@Zabudda said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@stoptheflop said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
My compliments to the board: no dick jokes so far
if you think about it every comment can be twisted into one.
Heās been zipped up all night
Guard somebody.
Yeah this is a loss.
At least the officials aren't trying to decide the game by calling 40+ fouls.
Juando, come on man
Wow
Good stuff
Totally someone's fault
KU just isn't any good on tired legs.
@benshawks08 What, my fault already? We're down 5, maybe 4 now!
TD!
Good hustle by Gradey
@stoptheflop Isn't Texas playing their third game too?
Juan 2 assists and 2 turnovers. Jwil doing it himself
YES
No no no ...good shot
You gotta guard better than that Joe.
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@stoptheflop Isn't Texas playing their third game too?
Texas has 15 bench pts to our 3. Our starters have to do it all
Missed opportunity for 2 for 1 - coaching
Quit leaving the paint openš¤¬
This bobby juan joe lineup is wild
KJ...
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@benshawks08 What, my fault already? We're down 5, maybe 4 now!
I didnāt say anything. Yet⦠30 seconds to go here.
oops, KJ... not your fault, really though
You can't do that
My gosh kj, need a stop here
I wonder if Bill Self made an account so he can read our comments? I wonder if he's gonna blame me?
We have fumbled away three or four Juan'ed assists.
8 turnovers and so many of them careless
Mini mitch lightfoot kid
Had a foul to give, should have used it.
Gift!
at least it wasn't a three
Ugg
Okay. Wissox... No more starting the thread
If Juan and Gradey get off the bus we will be fine.
And then that bullshit
I know it's 3 games in 3 days but the effort on defense that half was garbage
4 point swing to end the half. Started with missed 2 for 1 opportunity.
Conference call with Bill at half time?!?! š
Ya we get down 6 and I think... This is where we miss Bill the most
If someone wants to start a new thread, go ahead, it might be what we need.
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
If someone wants to start a new thread, go ahead, it might be what we need.
It's not all your fault.
I saw an actual longhorn today (I'm in New Mexico). Gave him the ol' Horns Down hand sign. Maybe I brought us bad luck
Hats off to Jalen, the only Jayhawk who has shown up today. 17pts
Hanni & Gurly talking about the mental defensive lapses and their right, the absence of Kevin is showing big. -Hanni talking about how he has counted SIX defensive blown assignments and he is right saying how Kevin's coverage would of taken care of a lot of that just his defensive presence
we're not the same team w/o Kev.
@stoptheflop said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Hats off to Jalen, the only Jayhawk who has shown up today. 17pts
um no Joe has showed scoring NINE himself - -so Jalen isn't the only one. Jalen the main one but Joe doing ok offensively
Is Gradey Dick playing today? Wow, how on earth can he expect to play in the NBA when he finds it tough to go three days in a row?
We just missed too many open looks and gave up too many.
Maybe the worst half D2 PG Juan has played in a month
@jayballer67 rest of team 7. This pathetic output will not continue in the second half. Harris needs to look to score. Udeh will actually flush a lob. Order will be restored.
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 rest of team 7. This pathetic output will not continue in the second half. Harris needs to look to score. Udeh will actually flush a lob. Order will be restored.
And Grady will once again wake his ass up and do something
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 rest of team 7. This pathetic output will not continue in the second half. Harris needs to look to score. Udeh will actually flush a lob. Order will be restored.
Theyāve undercut Udeh every time he has jumped for a lob or a rebound. Not like blatantly but he definitely having trouble jumping through the contact heās getting on his lower half.
Remember the stat when Juan scores in double figures Ku hasn't lost - - well - - -WAKIE - -WAKIE JUAN
@jayballer67 He doesnāt move well without the ball. Would like to see an elevator play for him.
Solid tv half time guys.
Iām assuming they are supposed to be playing highlights right now instead of watching these fools.
Why is Fran SHOUTING in the at the half segment?
4 points from Gradey, Juan and KJ. That has to change. We need each of them to score and at least two of them to get to double figures...
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
4 points from Gradey, Juan and KJ. That has to change. We need each of them to score and at least two of them to get to double figures...
Thatās the easy way. I do think thereās a chance jalen could carry us with like 20 next half.
I had to run out to my she shed for a šŗ.
We need scores to score
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
4 points from Gradey, Juan and KJ. That has to change. We need each of them to score and at least two of them to get to double figures...
Thatās the easy way. I do think thereās a chance jalen could carry us with like 20 next half.
Respectfully disagree - evidence is pretty compelling that we will win if we have 4 or more players in double figures.
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
4 points from Gradey, Juan and KJ. That has to change. We need each of them to score and at least two of them to get to double figures...
Thatās the easy way. I do think thereās a chance jalen could carry us with like 20 next half.
Respectfully disagree - evidence is pretty compelling that we will win if we have 4 or more players in double figures.
When I say the east way. I agree thatās the best strategy. But I just see jalen WANTING this game right now.
What a pretty shot!
Moving screen there missed.
And a foul there.
Iām no longer liking the refs.
at least the got the goal tending, but holy hell Yes was hacked too
Juan really struggling. Agree with vitale on that.
Wtf Juan
Wtf juan
Box out please
Jalen fouled.
Wilson gets hacked
Kj struggling on d right now. Getting caught in no manās land.
We can't win if JWill is scoring over half our points....
If we don't get another stop we'll lose
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
We can't win if JWill is scoring over half our points....
We can if he goes for 40
Oh come on mr. blind referee.
Just need to get some stops.
Toast
Getting to danger zone here. Need some pride on the defensive end here
They got to get some height on Desu - -KJ isn't even close to stopping him --- to easy
was that foul call by one john higgins?
Udeh to the rescue?!?
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Udeh to the rescue?!?
Heās at least had good energy.
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
We can't win if JWill is scoring over half our points....
We can if he goes for 40
Well, actually not at this pace - UT is on a 80+ pace...
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Udeh to the rescue?!?
Gotta get some height - -some length
Only way we're winning this is to start making damn near every shot, and no turnovers. Can't stop them on D without Kev
Our huge size disadvantage shows more with little Joe rather than Kevin but KJ has to step it up.
Yes has been the second option on offense today, but his defense gives up too many easy buckets. Rice?
Changed shorts and got a new Dr. Pepper. We should be better now.
Udehās length is a plus
Wish Yesufu would square up
Bunch of brick layers outside j will
3 on disu
Carr sets an illegal screen to get open for the triple.
Joe has as many shot attempts at Juan, Gradey and KJ combined....
come on Juando
Gonna need a better shot than a yesefu catch and shoot.
Welp
Juan just walked out to the 3 pull him smh wow
Not our night
Really miss our HOF coach
Self can't fix guys who can't make open shots
Defense is the issue
This is a mildly terrifying reminder of how fast the wheels will fall off without a good coaching hire.
Then we get no show from juan tonight. That's how you know
@kjayhawks yup
Stupid foul...
Getting bad Juan against better athletes even hanni just said
This is how we lose heās our mop
Put remy inā¦oh wait
Juan been d2 bad
Jesus Juan these idiots put their pants on ONE leg at a time like you do - -holy crap pull your head out your ass and play
@BeddieKU23 we are shooting fine just not putting forth any effort on the other end 4/7 shooting this half
LET"S GO
@BeddieKU23 or giving up open layups and mid range jumpers all day
Boo
Whaaa?
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
This is a mildly terrifying reminder of how fast the wheels will fall off without a good coaching hire.
It's not Norm thats making stupid passes and plays he ha no control of that
Rice is never gonna get a call.
Bullshit call, but you expect it on Rice
Got to go watch D3 quarters on my comp while still watching ku. No chatting happening now especially since someone shows up with first comment as we're losing by 12.
@jayballer67 He has lost control.
Walk. 3 seconds. Stepped out of bounds.
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 He has lost control.
Juan has lost control
crowd willed a three second call late from the ref
5 seconds went off the clock so
@benshawks08
Wheel of Fortune
Is Duke playing in this game???
The refs were good first half. But now we are losing and Iām in a bad mood so they are doing bad.
We see some fire from MJ. Cool.
Go on a run here or itās all done but the crying
@jayballer67 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 He has lost control.
Juan has lost control
And whose job is it to line him out? It all goes back to the head cheese my man.
Only so many strings to pull, but wanna see them pulled
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 He has lost control.
Juan has lost control
And whose job is it to line him out? It all goes back to the head cheese my man.
he can tell him things the entire gam- - it's up to Juan to execute the plan - - -my man
That was off ut
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
That was off ut
Rice was in the neighborhood, so off MJ
Can't make a layup
Here we go Juan.
I hate refs
Now it's over
Gradey that's pathetic effort pathetic
Where is actual Fuck was a foul there
@jayballer67 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@dylans said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 He has lost control.
Juan has lost control
And whose job is it to line him out? It all goes back to the head cheese my man.
he can tell him things the entire gam- - it's up to Juan to execute the plan - - -my man
Youāve convinced me. Fire Bill and save millions every year. Coach if makes no difference.
Oh wow. We canāt guard
Great job juan. Keep feeding the other team
MJ is useless
When is the last time we saw Juan turn it over like this?
Crowd is doing great given the score. This is fugly
1 on 5 playing hard
Juan need to be sitting on his ass and thinking about just how terrible ungodly he has played today
Hope kev is better for the tourney.
Well. Next year is rapidly approaching
Gotta be bout the worst performance from a defense and rebounding standpoint that I've ever seen. And that's purely about "want to". Fuckin irritating
four guys standing around watching Jwill. Ugly
Just a lack of focus. Udeh makes the worst decision he can make as usual
Clearly we'll need to play like we actually wanna be there when we play the Northern Colorado girls school of typewriter maintenance in the first round of the Dance. Please do NOT give this team the number 1 overall
MJ, Bobby, and Joe on the defensive end just canāt hang. Itās why our bench hasnāt played much all year. Juan is gassed and officially in his own head this game.
Hopefully Jwil is getting in some guys faces in the TO. Effort is not there today and that unacceptable
Cmon guys. Show some pride
Lotta time left. Hope they donāt lose by 25
Definitely not Juan's night. His season long assist-TO ratio is better than 3-1. Tonight it is 2-4....
Good thing is if we lose KC today for the big tournament, Iām not sold we can make it outta the first weekend anyway.
Embarrassing defensive performance
We play better not in KC in the dance anyway
Bobby simply cannot handle the ball at a D-1 level...
Lol. You had one job Bobby
How can a D1 guard not dribble
At least the 10th time Bobby has done that
Just let Gradey take the rest of our shots and get him on track in this building.
Decide to buckle down... Like now. Jesus
Lol
Brick
Nah. Done
Let's at least get it under ten and see what happens
or throw it away
Brick brick turnover
Bother moving pick from disu
Just laying down. This team will not win it all. Probably not close
Fuck it. Lose by 30.
Hook.
Pull the starters
This will be our 4th beat down of the year. Common denominator is lack of balanced scoring...
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Pull the starters
And put in who?
Hope coach isn't watching this
Well last time we got crushed by Texas we played two pretty good games after that. So maybe we make the second weekend.
Good job Joe you suck
Texas is playing like they want to win. They are going after everything while we stand and watch.
This an absolute embarrassment to the basketball program at Kansas
Great teams don't lose 5 games by double digits. Against anyone
@benshawks08 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Pull the starters
And put in who?
Jank can shoot us back in this game!
Certainly not making a deep run without kev.
Its simple: Joe isnt Kevin.
KU dropped to an 8 seed. Lol
@DanR said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Hope coach isn't watching this
Probably set his recovery back a few days.
Based on this game, KU ought to be a 2 and Texas a 1 seed
Being the overall 1 will only end in embarrassment. IDC what the "quad 1" bullshit says
We are lacking so much athleticism compared to this team
Desire and effort would have made a big difference.
:face_with_rolling_eyes: we deserve a 1 bc its the entire season. If Kev is healthy we are legit.
JWil should get tourney MVP but won't because everybody else decided green, hairy, greasy, camel balls was on the menu tonite
UT is a ridiculous 25-41 on 2 point attempts - most lay-ups. No defense....
Ok ref.
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
UT is a ridiculous 25-41 on 2 point attempts - most lay-ups. No defense....
Yeah. Theyāve had so many wide open lanes.
I donāt know. Maybe Norm did a great job to keep the game close for as long as he did? This team doesnāt matchup well with Texas. Gonna need a miracle in bracket matchups to repeat. - hopefully we only get short un-athletic teams.
@benshawks08 id like to check the shot sheet seems like itās all lay ups and dunks.
@cragarhawk said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Being the overall 1 will only end in embarrassment. IDC what the "quad 1" bullshit says
Hoping playing a non big 12 team will cure some ails.
Not even mad, I quit watching before halftime. Other hobbies when sports aren't sparking joy >>>>>
Won't matter about matchups. This group takes off atleast 1 nite in 6 and that doesn't win the Natty
@kjayhawks said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@benshawks08 id like to check the shot sheet seems like itās all lay ups and dunks.
Or threes with no one within 10 feet.
Anyone question the conditioning of the players?
@RockChalkinTexas said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Anyone question the conditioning of the players?
They wonāt have to play 3 in 3 again so I think we will be ok there. Definitely a contributing factor today.
We just have to hope this is a wake up call for this team. We arenāt good enough to just go thru the motions
@RockChalkinTexas maybe Bobbyās
@benshawks08 if we really and truly get everyone's best shot as we all say... It won't matter what league they are from. WSU could throttle this team on a night like this
No Kevin, no worries about this result.
It's stunning how bad MJ is defensively...
So easy.
Lol. Nice effort guys
Juan gonna break his streak.
@cragarhawk Bill and Kev are plus 20
2 players in double figures, and barely that...
@benshawks08 Maybe to some extent but Texas played 3 in 3, also. This group has a tendency to roll over when they get smacked. They have had some nice comebacks, but as someone pointed out, we've also lost several by big margins. When we came back, it was with an unbelievable amount of energy and effort. Didn't see either of those once Texas got up by a few late in the first half.
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
No Kevin, no worries about this result.
Can't overstate the loss of Self as well. We were not as sharp this whole event really, it finally caught up with them.
They donāt even look upset at being down. Too tired for emotion? Spent too much emotional energy on Self and petered out?
Texas is down a starter too guys. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one. This effort will not work going forward regardless of whomever shows up.
Just absolutely ridiculous. Allow 76 plus and score 56. In March. Not going very far
Sweet sixteen caliber team. Hope they get good matchups.
See ya later
Only power 5 championship to be decided by 20 points. Pathetic
Rough night.
That was fun
Lol
Weāre going to Pollo Hermanos babyyyyyy
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
That was fun
Could you imagine if you died tonight? Totally fulfilled after tonightās effort. Would drift off with a satisfied smile on my face. š
WTF have they ever won before, Lol
I think we're just not very good 3 nights out of 5. And have relied upon other teams injury's, scheduling favorabilitys, home court advantage, etc. Sweet 16 is the ceiling if everything goes right. I fuckin absolutely hate it when they yammer all season about how ungodly the league is. Its a very low percentage of times that actually works out. You heard it here first folks... Big12 will have maybe 2 teams left after the first weekend
Kevin is the ultimate glue guy. We completely fell apart without him.
@benshawks08 Need all 5 starters healthy. This team is super thin. - says captain obvious
@approxinfinity I'm not a KU fan, I've been outed. I know how to jinx the team bahaahaaahaahahaahahaah!!!!
I don't even have a meltdown in me tonight. Do agree the team looked spent tonight.
Screw it. Write em off and be pleasantly surprised, when Bill and Kev get back.
@approxinfinity said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Screw it. Write em off and be pleasantly suprised, when Bill and Kev get back.
Yep. They are done. Might lose to the 16 seed. Make sure they all hear that.
I hit Y and enter on the predictive text. About as coherent and as much effort as the play tonight.
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Ready for the refocus next week. Selection Sunday will add clarity. Beak āem Hawks!
Hopefully nothing better than the last #1 seed. Need a chip or idk. Something to play for
@cragarhawk nah if our #10 team can beat Bama by 30 that said it all
Past 2 ncaa champs from big 12 and had 2020 happened maybe 3. Tech wasnāt far a year or so before thatā¦..
Big 10 overrated
Sec is decent
Big east no clue
Big 12 legit
Good thing no 3 games in 3 days crap for the real tourney. Hopefully coach gets back and resets them but getting blown out by UT without their best player after getting dominated by them 7 days ago is a bad look.
There is plenty of rest in the NCAA tournament. Really just need the guys playing free of mind. Gradey especially seems lost in his head. Hope they can buckle down on defense and loosen up on offense and go have fun!
Well as Coach in Letterkenney says "that was f..king embarassing."
@kuballin10 that was the exception not the rule.. probably 1 in 20. I wouldn't put much stock in that game or result
I didn't get to watch tonight. Was this basically KU running out of gas tonight without McCullar playing or was there something else concerning about tonight that we didn't already know about this team?
@Texas-Hawk-10 my eye balls wished I hadnāt watched lol
Hope they see this. Chip time.
This was KU waving the white flag in the first half.
In my 50+ years of following Jayhawk basketball, I can't recall a worse defensive effort.
I can't ever recall players surrendering like they did today. They should all be ashamed. Losses will happen.
This isn't about losing. This is about quitting.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
I didn't get to watch tonight. Was this basically KU running out of gas tonight without McCullar playing or was there something else concerning about tonight that we didn't already know about this team?
Tired and didn't play much defense which goes hand and hand plus no McCullar. I wasn't overly surprised.
@BShark said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Hope they see this. Chip time.
I'm not sure he is wrong. Has any recent national champion lost 5 games by 14 pts or more??? We are a fragile team, living on the edge. Almost completely dependent on the 5 starters. If locked in defensively and generating fast break opportunities, with at least 4 starters scoring, we beat anybody. But if one or two, esp. Juan, are having a bad game, we aren't particularly good. Thin margin between getting knocked out early and winning 3-4 games (don't see a 6 game winning streak against good competition...).
@Texas-Hawk-10 Juan was awful turned it over, loose with the ball and their athletes out manād him
Jw was a stud
Gradey was mainly non existent and battling injury
Concerning part
Gurley and Hanni said there were 6 uncontested layups first half and there were at least 4 second half so of the 20 point blowout - 20 of them were we defended well for 15-20 seconds than gave up back cuts or guys getting blown right by off the bounce
Besides the lack of Self and Kevin what this game and a few others this year have shown me is Self needs to overhaul the roster a bit this offseason. I believe he will fwiw. Pissed Bill will be back.
Bottom line? You can maybe play like that for about 5 min in the first round. After that you go home. I hate the gassed/tired narrative with a passion. I was 20... I wasn't tired
@approxinfinity let's start with team 1. And ya may say "whoever that is". But team 1 planning is these Jayhawks. And who knows how to handle them. Hopefully Bill
We may be all needing to temper expectations and say that winning the league outright was actually impressive for this crew. I think they are so fun to watch when they are energized. Always thought that, all season. But absolutely horrid when they are not. Idk how ya teach them that. The losses obviously haven't. Gotta hope CS has the secret. But idk. He's just a man
This game left a bad taste in my mouth.
@kuballin10 Juan made the all tourney team with jwill. You must've missed the first 2 games since you just showed up tonight?
JWil should be MVP. Dammit
Iām sure Iām not the only one who had the thought about halfway through the second half āI hope Bill Self isnāt watching this because if he didnāt have a heart attack before, he might have one now.ā
@Crimsonorblue22 he dominated the first two games was aggressive and looked to score. That is the Juan we need to win a title and same for kj who catches at the free throw line and needs to look to score not pass.
Tonight Juan was bad. He wonāt be great all 6 games but he canāt he this bad either. Elite long athlete teams we will struggle against.
Need some good matchups like last year
@kuballin10 yep I know that! Just wanted to let you know how good he was since you never mention that! He can't dish to guys that can't catch or get open either.
That maybe the worst played game by a PG in decades here the truth be told. He got a few garbage time layups where Texas tried not to foul. 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 1 rebound and 0 steals. Hopefully that gets it outta his system. He has played great the last month.
@cragarhawk said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Bottom line? You can maybe play like that for about 5 min in the first round. After that you go home. I hate the gassed/tired narrative with a passion. I was 20... I wasn't tired
I hate that narrative too. Both teams had to play 3 games in 3 days.
Nevertheless, shots were short all day. Jumps were not as high. Guys got beat. Balls were fumbled and went through hands. They had a hard time just getting open for passes.
If not physically, then mentally, they were not sharp today. Not sure whyā maybe it was the unusual lineups. Maybe coaching. Maybe it was Texas.
The latter is the hardest to stomach. But 3 weeks from today, if they are talking about their next game on Monday, then todayās result will be a bit easier to understand.
@bskeet Right that was my thinking Texas played the late game last night and also was down a starter so itās hard for me give into those excuses. Having BS gone definitely hurt, Norm has done great for sure but thereās a reason he got fired from 2 head coaching jobs. I think some of it is Texas is just a match up nightmare for us. Kinda like how Kentucky spanked Tennessee twice. I think with will struggle with tall athletic teams like Tennessee and Texas.
@bskeet yeah that isnāt even a narrative itās ignorance.
1) Texas has a bench we donāt
2) Texas is long and athletic - we arenāt besides udeh whos long but lost and kj whoās a quick leaper but not long. JW and Gradey arenāt great side to side quickness
3) they beat us without their best player. Imagine us beating them without jw or juan (say we had Kevin).
UT, Houston, Bama legit final 4 teams
@kuballin10 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@bskeet yeah that isnāt even a narrative itās ignorance.
1) Texas has a bench we donāt
2) Texas is long and athletic - we arenāt besides udeh whos long but lost and kj whoās a quick leaper but not long. JW and Gradey arenāt great side to side quickness
3) they beat us without their best player. Imagine us beating them without jw or juan (say we had Kevin).
UT, Houston, Bama legit final 4 teams
Texas IS NOT making the final four -- you can take that to the bank, mark it down not happening. - They are going to run acrosss an athletic team that will eat them alive
@jayballer67 before Beard went thru his stupidity I thought that was a championship caliber team. They stil are but coaching inexperience will do them in.
@bskeet anything can happen once you pop the lid off the "if" bucket. Shots were short for one team, guys didn't jump as high, for one team. Rebounds didn't happen for one team... You're absolutely right. This game doesn't matter "if". But I see patterns and I don't see 6 games where this doesn't happen again. And it's okay. Sometimes you just aren't that good. So are 341 other teams.
KU imo isnāt as talented as Texas or Baylor arguably KSU in terms of Jimmy and Joes. But we have the best coach hands down.
@kjayhawks said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@jayballer67 before Beard went thru his stupidity I thought that was a championship caliber team. They stil are but coaching inexperience will do them in.
they have inconsistencies - when they run up against team that matchs length/height they are in trouble- - somebody like Duke Lively and Fel - would eat them up right now - don't beleive me all you have to do is watch Duke now compared to early in the year--that team is dangerous
@kjayhawks said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
KU imo isnāt as talented as Texas or Baylor arguably KSU in terms of Jimmy and Joes. But we have the best coach hands down.
that is the biggest problem and not to proud to admit it - - Texas is just more athletic
@jayballer67 Dook looks to be peaking at the right time with 8 going on 9 straight wins. Which sucks, Iām worried we already peaked we have lost 2 or 4 right now.
@jayballer67 oh it doesn't matter that they are more athletic. It matters only that they are more athletic and actually played like they cared about being there. Minus JWil
@jayballer67 for sure Iām a realist, if Self has Baylorās or Texas's Roster heās winning the NC this season. Which in away is sad to say. Iām just ready for the investigation to be over with so we can start recruiting again. The way I look at since Iāve been watching KU since the mid 90s KU has had the best overall player and team in every match up all year outside of few final four games and Durant at Texas about 90% of the time. Since 2018 that had just not been the case. I personally think if we had anyone coaching in 2019 or 2021 we donāt even make the tournament.
@cragarhawk did you play D1 bb?
@Crimsonorblue22 sure did not. Doesn't change anything I said. It's just a defense mechanism. We've all seen the difference many times. No reason to bullshit ourselves about it
Couldnāt watch the game live, just finished watching the recording. Best thing about this game was I could skip thru the commercials⦠and the last 20 minutes.
Easy to get all down about it, but I aināt gonna becauseā¦
- No Bill Self
- No Kev
- Gradey last out of locker room by 2 minutes at half, 0-5 3s⦠something was wrong, probably not much chance of that happening again unless heās really hurt
- something wrong with DJ too⦠not great D and 4/4 TOs to assists, probably not much chance of that happening again either unless heās really hurt
- nothing really on the line for us - we won the toughest league in Div1 and almost assuredly still have the overall #1 seed
- JW is one of the best players in the league
Was it ugly? Oh hell yes. Do I feel any differently about our chances in the Dance compared to before the game? Not one bit⦠IF everyone is healthy come game time.
If key pieces are not healthy, pretty hard for any team to win. Possibly the most important uncontrollable variable for tournament success.
We played the toughest schedule in Div1 and chalked up by far the most quad 1 wins. Am I down on this team after one meaningless loss? Hell no. Just crossing my fingers for healthy players for the next few weeks.
@DCHawker said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
@BShark said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Hope they see this. Chip time.
I'm not sure he is wrong. Has any recent national champion lost 5 games by 14 pts or more??? We are a fragile team, living on the edge. Almost completely dependent on the 5 starters. If locked in defensively and generating fast break opportunities, with at least 4 starters scoring, we beat anybody. But if one or two, esp. Juan, are having a bad game, we aren't particularly good. Thin margin between getting knocked out early and winning 3-4 games (don't see a 6 game winning streak against good competition...).
This team won 7 straight against good competition not too long ago. Definitely dependent on the 5 starters. Never seen such a massive drop off from the moment any starter takes a seat.
Norm to the team tonight
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When we are able to hold teams off we get up by about seven until they wear down. It's not a dominating type team but we can beat anyone as we have shown. I can also see us getting dominated by a long and hot team and shooting 40 percent all game. It will take heroic stuff to get to the final four.
Ugh, that was ugly. It all turned south with about 3 minutes left in the first half. I think we were leading at that point?
Everybody pretty much covered the issues today. The basics to me were pretty basicā¦we went to the foul line like 6 times? Thatās bad. We canāt have both Gradey and Dajuan suck in the same game. Need points from somebody other than Wilson. Boy has Dajuan been sloppy the last few. Bad decision making, too. Gotta nip that in the bud.
Well, I guess Kevin is an important part of the defense! Just an embarrassment with the defensive effort today.
I like how Norm uses the bench. Nice to see some guys get minutes. A bit sad to see that neither Bobby nor MJ have a clue though. Honestly, how can Bobby be this bad? I wince when he has the ball.
But I still smile when Udeh does anything! A ray of sunshine :)
Onward, and hopefully upward.
Oh, and when we lose, we donāt f*ck around, we LOSE. Itās true, we have a very thin margin with this team. Most of our cylinders have to be working.
@wissox said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
I'm willing to clear my good name. Although @BShark has handled it brilliantly I believe that some unfairly blame me for the last game chat I started causing us to lose. We can overcome the so called curse of Wissox.
WE GOOD
Nothing personal because I love your posts, but I vote we let BShark start the thread every game thru the NCAA tournament. Not saying it's you- just trying to cover the bases.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
I like how Norm uses the bench. Nice to see some guys get minutes. A bit sad to see that neither Bobby nor MJ have a clue though. Honestly, how can Bobby be this bad? I wince when he has the ball.
I think we see why Bill uses the bench the way he does. We just don't have one. He doesn't want them to embarrass themselves on national television.
@Jethro Ya Iām not superstitious person in the slightest. Poor @wissox picked a tough game. Thatās is a thing as I said on another thread I thought this Texas club was not only the best in the conference but a championship caliber team going into this season before Beard had his stupidity shine thru. We will have more important things to worry about at 5 friends.
Was surprised to see Yes score a few quick 3s early on. Was hoping he would go off for 20 like sometimes a bench player has done against us before. Sure would have been nice to JW carry the load, have a new surprise weapon right before the dance(and help offset his often poor D). Hey a guy can dream, canāt he?
Yes is such a poor set shot shooter and the ones he missed were bigger then the few he made. He misses way too many shots, mostly wide open, in the flow of the offense where motion and passing have created the opportunity and its maddening. One of the big weaknesses of this team is its shooting and more specifically the lack of outside threats we have outside 2 guys. Juan is hard to include since he doesn't look to shoot them often. A good example was MJ Rice making a 3 off dribble penetration yesterday. He hadn't made a 3 since November. Yes is 10/40 from 3 since late January including 5/22 recently, that's awful. Whether it's Kev, Yes, MJ or someone else that wing/guard that's often open on the weakside has killed a lot of good offense all year
@BeddieKU23 he aims them in like a kid that canāt handle the weight of the ball. Wish he would square up and shoot with good form, but that isnāt happening this year. We can dreamā¦do you remember what Seldenās shot looked like his freshmen year? Wow what a transformation.
Bottom line is Texas is just a terrible matchup for us - - KJ had no answer for Desu inside almost like taking candy from a baby. Not a knock on KJ but just it is what it is.
Teams like Texas in the tourney is teams that are going to give us hell - just bad match ups.
Teams to avoid Marquette , Duke , Arizona , Texas -And of course any Cinderella lol
Who was the MVP in the tourney ? - -Lt me guess Desu ?
@BeddieKU23 said in Texas game chat (danger I'm 0-1 in my last game chats):
Yes is such a poor set shot shooter and the ones he missed were bigger then the few he made. He misses way too many shots, mostly wide open, in the flow of the offense where motion and passing have created the opportunity and its maddening. One of the big weaknesses of this team is its shooting and more specifically the lack of outside threats we have outside 2 guys. Juan is hard to include since he doesn't look to shoot them often. A good example was MJ Rice making a 3 off dribble penetration yesterday. He hadn't made a 3 since November. Yes is 10/40 from 3 since late January including 5/22 recently, that's awful. Whether it's Kev, Yes, MJ or someone else that wing/guard that's often open on the weakside has killed a lot of good offense all year
Yup, that was pretty much my main concern going into the season. Shooters, or lack of. Oddly, Last I looked (awhile ago) the team numbers were actually comparable to some of Selfās previous teams.
@BeddieKU23 MJ didnāt dribble he thought about shooting than jab stepped than saw guy sagged way off and shot it
@Texas-Hawk-10 - you were 100% right on Joe and I was wrong. I was hoping Drake Joe was real but it was not. You nailed that one when I was all over Bill for not playing him meanwhile it all makes sense now.