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Round 2 before real games begin next week.

Hopefully a different result tonight against an inferior opponent. Wishful thinking at least.

Looks like it’s time to restart ESPN plus.

Rock chalk!

@BeddieKU23 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Round 2 before real games begin next week.

Hopefully a different result tonight against an inferior opponent. Wishful thinking at least.

Can't be any worse then Kentucky playing Ottawa College from here in Ks - -Or Louisville losing to Kentucky Weslynn

Espn plus fun

Nothing like seeing Allen Fieldhouse again. Good for the soul

Wow the place looks half empty

Dickinson with 8 early. Other team doesn't have anyone that can guard him so there's that.

Adams has a 2 off high low.

Defense is still really poor but the other team isn't good

@BeddieKU23 Hunter will dominate any team that doesn’t have a 6’10 or taller guy

Furphy in, 2 quick fouls. Love his size and they need him to acclimate.

Offense without Hunter in looks challenging. Elmarko with a nice assist to kev for a made 3.

Parker is uhhhh

@BShark

Had a dunk lob in traffic but on the other end its scary

Joined late - watching the last 3 minutes has been painful. Offense is offensive. Bad entry passes and the only points are a couple of FTs (with KJ missing two of those). Against FHS....

@DCHawker said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Joined late - watching the last 3 minutes has been painful. Offense is offensive. Bad entry passes and the only points are a couple of FTs (with KJ missing two of those). Against FHS....

Next 3 minutes better...

Extremely sloppy offense

A lot of combos

This team is going to struggle making perimeter shots...

@DCHawker

I think scoring in general is going to be a big problem but perimeter shooting is certainly a major concern so far

Some good moments from freshman Jackson driving baseline for assists, Furphy active on d and has looked okay in his first game action. McDowell certainly has effort and seems like he can play some this year. Would like to see him show his perimeter shot.

Dickinson is way overhyped. He’s so slow and a bad defender. Johnny furphy also looks really unathletic, don’t see power 5 level from him.Timberlake looks like tyrell reed, which is fine but that’s the best self could Have got. Will be a good team but I don’t see top 5 from this team.

Well can't say watching this is got me all warm and fuzzy. - -Hunter on defense is a real liability , like a sloth. - - -At this point we have no outside shooter - -ya Kevin a couple but 2-10. Like they were mention teams going make KU hit that outside shot.

Furphy made nice pass, but just not a lot to say- - YAY , I agree This team is going to have trouble at times scoring. - -Parker looking good - -Three fouls very nice. -I just don't know right now.

Ya Hunt hit his 1st 4 shots but dam I would hope he has a 7 inch advantage a Fort Hays Starter their tallest player that ha played is 6'7

Here’s the real question , by years end will we be wishing we kept udeh and zuby instead of hunter. We could have used that nil money for the best 2 and 3 guard in the portal instead. And bill wanted Timberlake instead of making a run at the oral Roberts kid or a legit athlete shooter

Furphy looks like he's going to be just fine, IMO. He's 18? Active and moves fluidly where he's supposed to be. Not forcing anything.

Hunter... boy, I'm not sure what to think. Ostertag might have been more mobile.

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Dickinson is way overhyped. He’s so slow and a bad defender. Johnny furphy also looks really unathletic, don’t see power 5 level from him.Timberlake looks like tyrell reed, which is fine but that’s the best self could Have got. Will be a good team but I don’t see top 5 from this team.

I have said I just think Hunter is just a bad fit, just doesn't fit our play. - - Not saying he isn't good but like they said Kevin coming from the BIG where they had Big Plodding guys - -here we RUN I'm sure Bill will figure it out.

Can't agree on Furphy though. Kid should still be in High School , will put on weight, get some work out in. Been fighting shin splints, there is a reason he is on the NBA rdar. -give him some time. he is way behind because of the splints

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Here’s the real question , by years end will we be wishing we kept udeh and zuby instead of hunter. We could have used that nil money for the best 2 and 3 guard in the portal instead. And bill wanted Timberlake instead of making a run at the oral Roberts kid or a legit athlete shooter

Years end? I regretted them (U and Z) leaving last summer regardless of whatever guards we could have picked up.

@BeddieKU23 that was my analysis as well, I think we should slow it down and pound the paint often look like an earlier Bill Self team.

Dickinson isn’t the problem in the slightest guys. If we had shooters like Braun, Ochai or Gradey he would be fine. If I’m coaching against us I’m putting a zone out with 3 guys smelling his breath til someone makes shots.

This is the team we have, and it’ll be fun to see bill work his magic, so I’m done complaining about would haves and could haves. We road Dedric for a year so it can’t get worse than that

Timberlake needs to make one

@DanR probably a good attitude to have on the matter this early. I just laugh sometimes of the lack of basketball knowledge. Dickinson catches the ball with 2 or 3 guys on him and doesn’t get a shot up. Guards (except Kevin) no one within 8 feet of clank 18 footer, clank 3 pointer, repeat for for 2 games. Damn it Hunter do something lmao.

Hopefully Timberlake remembers how to make baskets at some point. Yikeys

@BeddieKU23 could just jitters playing at this level, surely he’ll settle in

If Furphy stays healthy he will play more than Nick this year.

Good plan to force some stuff into HD.

Make him work

Sweet pass

Harris with the nasty dime to kev

Going to the game Monday. Will be fun to see the new guys in person!

Coach mentioned some time back that maybe find a mid year transfer in the Portal - -I sure the hell hope so. Someone that can shoot and make a three

New kid on the block finally nailed one

GOD that was ugly. - -This team is in trouble if they don't turn something around. - -How many mid range 15 foot jumpers did we make ? -even attempt ? - If we can't get lay ups or free throws we in trouble. I know it's exhibition but I mean come on now. -Furphy like like he has some promise I mean 6-26 from three whoaaa Nellie - - JUST UGLY - -- UGLY UGLY. - -WE ARE NOT GOING TOBE ABLE TO JUST TRY LOB AFTER LOB AFTER LOB AGAINST LEGIT p-5

Wrong boy band…. Timberkake finally NSYNC

Does anyone have a link to a live box score?

That was ugly. - - -6-28 from the three. - how many mid range jumpers did we make ? - -or shoot ? - - right now if e don't get a lay up or free throw were in trouble. How many times did we get beat on straight line drives to the basket for lay ups by Fort Hays St ? - - -Mercy.--no that was impressive by far --LOT'S OF WORK

@mayjay http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=495870 ↗

@BShark Furphy and Elmarko will be playing better and more by the first of the year.

First ten minutes or so were real then we experimented/coasted. Second half was almost all bizarre line-ups and the walk-ons played a lot. No one got hurt. I am happy.

I don’t see the furphy love. He’s pretty slow and awkward moving laterally. He Doesnt look like he has a driving game at all. His shot form is fine…But man if you threw a fort hays state jersey on him and he played on the other side I don’t think he would catch anyones eye. Even if this is suppose to be like the next svi, he’s also way skinny and not D1 body ready for this year

McDowell has way more upside as a future ku guy from what I’ve seen

@jayhawks2010 if he was in high school he'd be a top 30. NBA has already got him on their radar.

I guess we will see

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

McDowell has way more upside as a future ku guy from what I’ve seen

McDowell got his cardio in tonight just like Illinois. Just didn't do much at all. He's a small wing for us at this point.

Would agree Furphy has to get stronger. He has a great feel for the game and is loooong. Not this year but eventually he is a starter.

@tundrahok Thank you!

@jayhawks2010 He is also dealing with shin splints, which may be hindering his movement.

Watching the game now. Dickinson is so bad at defense. Fort Hayes look like cars blowing by a highway rest stop.

Offensive footwork is pretty good.

Legit question, is this team better then last years team? The bench isn’t better. Ok you get Dickinson but you lost an all American score in wilson. Grady gave you an nba level shooter. Harris is Harris. Adam’s and McCuller I guess are a hair better. Post scoring is significantly better but your post defense is crazy worse

@jayhawks2010 at least right now, i think we are worse. We have 2 3 point shooters, one being Hunter. We are going to get beaten routinely on 3s, rebounds and defense. We cant run with Hunter either and we dont have a shot blocker / plus rebounder to pair with Hunter.

These arent cohesive pieces at all right now.

@approxinfinity
It seems that way. They couldn’t event get 80 points against fort hays state!

Didn't watch. Reading from the comments it might be time to fire Bill Self it sounds like!?

These announcers are absolutely ridiculous with the Dickinson superlatives. This guy isnt Jokic, this guy is not a POY candidate. Its great to dream, I guess.

@jayhawks2010 Svi was scrawny as heck as a freshman as well. He’ll get there

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Legit question, is this team better then last years team? The bench isn’t better. Ok you get Dickinson but you lost an all American score in wilson. Grady gave you an nba level shooter. Harris is Harris. Adam’s and McCuller I guess are a hair better. Post scoring is significantly better but your post defense is crazy worse

Short simple Answer - - -NO

@approxinfinity the team as a whole hasn’t looked great defensively Juan and Kev have shown flashes but everyone is struggling to keep their man in front of them. This team lacks athleticism outside of Elmarko and KJ.

Man the negativity is crazy. There are concerns yes but I am not overly worried.

Ok this is the most engaged ive been thus far. 8 minutes to go first half, subbed out Hunter. Lineup of Furphy Mcdowell Harris KJ and Kevin

@approxinfinity said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Ok this is the most engaged ive been thus far. 8 minutes to go first half, subbed out Hunter. Lineup of Furphy Mcdowell Harris KJ and Kevin

Nothing in the second half was real btw. Will never see any of that again.

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

@approxinfinity
It seems that way. They couldn’t event get 80 points against fort hays state!

Could have easily had that and more playing tight rotations but what's the point of that against a D2 team?

@BShark sorry man. I just dont like Hunter and it bothers me that he is the focal point of our identity. Maybe i want him to fail a little so people stop identifying us as Hunters team.

@approxinfinity said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

. We cant run with Hunter either and we dont have a shot blocker / plus rebounder to pair with Hunter.

Cmon! Didn’t you see the twin tower lineup with Hunter and Clemence at one point! :)

@approxinfinity he's definitely a team guy

I want this to be Mccullars team.

@rockchalkjayhawk ha just got to it

@approxinfinity How about the HAM team? Harris, Adams, and McCullar.

And HD aka High-Def is really Lo-Fi.

I’m just finishing up the game as well. Halfway thru the second half.

My impression so far: hmmm. We got work to do.

Furphy with a second half start! I think he looks smooth-ish. Just young and dumb. But actually not that dumb. Looks like he fits in. His shooting form doesn’t look broke. That’s a good thing. And he’s way out of shape. Hard to judge his foot speed.

I’m still waiting to see something from Elmarko.

Oh jeez, we got walk ons in the game…

@BShark
We don’t usually have trouble dropping 80 plus in any exhibition game playing a lose rotation. Last years team dropped over 90.

I think Mccullar has the highest ceiling to be the hero we need this season. I do think we have some depth that we would do well to develop and hope we continue to roll the young guys out a bit

Post game said Kevin reinjured his neck, couldn't go long in 2nd half.

@Crimsonorblue22 fffffff

@approxinfinity but it'll be fine, soft tissue injury.

@Crimsonorblue22 I saw him grabbing his neck a few times like it was bothering him. He produced in spite of that.

@approxinfinity said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

I think Mccullar has the highest ceiling to be the hero we need this season. I do think we have some depth that we would do well to develop and hope we continue to roll the young guys out a bit

The problem I have rooting for Kevin is that there is nothing about his game that’s easy to watch. It’s all like pulling teeth with him. Of course I want him to do well, but he just ain’t smooth.

HCBS said that McCullar almost did not play today. Watching Gameday Live

@rockchalkjayhawk hes holding out on us

Looks pretty smooth to me. 4 threes so far with a busted neck

HCBS says McCullar will be backup point guard for now when Juan is out as Elmarko is thinking too much. He thought Furphy looked good based upon practicing once in 3 weeks.

All right. Done watching. Winning’s good.

I don’t know why this is the first thing that comes to mind, but why is Clemence gonna red shirt? Im sure we could use him at some point. Seems like everybody is peeing on Parker as a backup C.

If Self said Elmarko is still thinking too much, that would explain things. He looks like a zombie out there. Not standing out. Just fitting in. Not bad, not good. Really looking forward to seeing him get better as the season progresses.

I still think Furphy will break out as an exciting player at some point.

Harris has not been aggressive at all. Wonder why?

Hunter. Hmm. I never saw him play at Michigan, so I have no expectations. As another said, if they double and triple him, somebody’s gotta cut or make a 3 for us to succeed.

I hope this somehow grows into a hard nosed Bill Self team. I do see the hi-lo making a come back!

Anyone want to call me out on my thoughts that uk will beat us?

I was crazy and Juan will own their freshman ect….funny how not even beating d2 Kansas school by 20 points and being down to a fringe top 25 team all game has changed tunes

Bill needs to learn to get athletes who can shoot not the opposite.

Khalif Battle and many others he could have had and kept Udeh and Zuby.

Next level….try regression year and 3rd in the big 12.

When ur pg can’t shoot and doesn’t look to score, ur 2 guard can’t guard or shoot, your 4 man can’t do anything but dunk and floaters and ur 5 is lallygagging up and down the floor every possession along with being a volume James harden type scorer….u ain’t any good

The second turd bucket was kicked off I knew this was a problem and Bill’s interview last week confirmed it even more.

We ain’t that good I’m thinking sweet 16 tops

No one will accuse this team of being high-octane on offense.

Slight box score second half disappointment:

FHS 32, Kansas 30

I had already tempered expectations big time after the Morris debacle, but I've lowered them even more after this pair of warm up games. We'll see what this team can develop into as they have a lot to work on, perhaps more so than any Self team he's had. I'm excited to see how much this group can improve but it may be rocky.

If we are a top 5 team come seasons end, Bill will be a Coach of the Year candidate. Im ready to lower expectations and enjoy the process.

@kuballin10 Bill wouldn't play Battle much, would be a Remy situation on steroids. Temple kicked him off the team.

You'd rather have Udeh and Zuby than HD? Then we really wouldn't score unless we got a scoring four and another scoring guard instead. Not sure who we were even on and could of landed that fits the bill? You can't just pick and choose players you want in the portal.

Not the #1 team in the country right now but there is time to get better and gel as a team.

@kjayhawks they must have taken a clue from the football crowd. Did it start out full and then slowly dwindle to about 20% capacity?

@kuballin10 Hmmm..... Did you copy that post from 2022, just change the names a bit? You're going to conclude all that based on two practice games? OK. If you'd been here in 2012 you'd probably have written the same thing when we nearly won the national championship.

"Bill needs to learn to get athletes who can shoot, not the opposite." Just about the dumbest line I've seen, and I've been a bucketeer from the day @approxinfinity got this great page going. But keep up with your sorry analysis of KU hoops. We like it when you're wrong.

Last dysfunctional foster like this was 2018. 8 losses that season. Who is taking the over on 8 losses?

@approxinfinity I'd guess something like 24-7 in the regular season. Maybe I will be happily surprised. Definitely some development that needs to happen.

Guessing that gets us on the 2 seed line.

Once these guys figure out who the leader on the floor is, they will be fine. Last year was easy with Jalen taking over.

Going back, first 6 possessions were great. If Self runs real stuff all game, mostly just feeding Hunter we probably put up triple digits. At the very least 90. That doesn't help us long term though, we obviously know Hays can't hang with Hunter so it was more interesting to try other stuff.

@COHawk

Think Kev is that guy as long as healthy

@BeddieKU23 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

@COHawk

Think Kev is that guy as long as healthy

Kev hype was legit.

Looks like KU has 4 players and a bunch of jags. Will be interesting to see what Self can get out of this group.

Might be although I don't think he likes that role. I think Juan could be the one but he isn't sure that the others see him as the alpha. To become the team we hope this group will become, this (a strong leader) has to happen.

@dylans said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Looks like KU has 4 players and a bunch of jags. Will be interesting to see what Self can get out of this group.

Timberlake missed evaluation was big. Looks like the 7th man on this team to me. On the bright side maybe Bill stops looking at midmajor guards in the portal.

@approxinfinity said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

These announcers are absolutely ridiculous with the Dickinson superlatives. This guy isnt Jokic, this guy is not a POY candidate. Its great to dream, I guess.

He is a consensus first team AA. Of course he is a POY candidate.

@wissox Nah national title team I was on Remy over Juan which proved true but Dave completely smacked me in the face. I liked David the person but as a player felt he held us back. Man he couldn’t have proved me more wrong all while on a bum wheel.

Self builds the team in just grading out what we are seeing and so far beating in state commuter school by 18 and the Illini game is atrocious.

@approxinfinity I’ll take the under on that bet, this team is more like the 2019 Dedric Lawson 10 loss team than the 2018 FF team that was loaded with NBA Guards that could shoot. That 2019 team is one of the worst in my lifetime which says a lot about Kansas basketball and how good we have been. I’m personally not super worried at this point. We will find out a lot vs UK

@BShark We could play fast and if he didn’t get Hunter he should have landed top wings in the portal.

I’m starting to see how Michigan was so bad with Hunter. He puts up the stats but when u go watch their ncaa tourney game he is a poor athlete and awful defender.

With Doke we had legit defense his last year because he was such a beast. Hunter can’t get more than 2 inches off the floor and is so slow side to side we can’t stop a fringe top 25 team from scoring at will or having open shots all game

@BShark This is my proof we ain’t got the horses. Can’t just roll it out and get buckets. Bill can call every set he wants but they don’t always work and guys just have to make plays.

Uconn had athletes and shooters and could flat out play.

We got 1 shooter who’s a possible starter but can’t guard worth crap and then everyone else is lucky if they are 30-32%.

Squad Self built I thought would look good but man we are baddddd

@COHawk Juan is a great kid but he ain’t that. Ur asking him to be Frank or devontae and he doesn’t have even half of their offensive skill set.

Juan is the hockey assist, pass it around the perimeter guy, and gets the nice assist in transition but he’s the most overhyped player from Bill I’ve ever seen. Traylor and Morningstar have been surpassed.

This team needs a Frank not a Juan.

Bill was enamored with Hunter and I read in here we’d run plays like for Jokic and lol that’s comical now. Tough to do when u got 4 other dudes who can’t shoot and no one guards out to the three point line they just sag in the paint and dare us to go 4/21

Alpha Kevin is the only way. F the naysayers. Own it Kev.

Wasn't attempting to compare him to Frank, and I don't think a leader needs to be a beast offensively.
Interesting how some were ready to clear a space for new title trophy and banner a few months back, but after two exhibition games are bashing almost every. player.

@kuballin10 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

@BShark This is my proof we ain’t got the horses. Can’t just roll it out and get buckets. Bill can call every set he wants but they don’t always work and guys just have to make plays.

Uconn had athletes and shooters and could flat out play.

We got 1 shooter who’s a possible starter but can’t guard worth crap and then everyone else is lucky if they are 30-32%.

Squad Self built I thought would look good but man we are baddddd

Okay, you are right, we will miss the tournament. Damn!

Might have to take a year off the boards. Between the boards, twitter and the discord server it's a lot.

Look around the country, who has an insane roster? Tennessee maybe? No one is blowing me away.

@BShark

We'll have to wait to see what others look like with so much turnover. Illinois looked solid but Underwood is known to underperform there.

Duke's core 4 that came back is going to be difficult to beat.

Purdon't has the behemoth and their core back.

Nova could look significantly different with Moore healthy and a solid transfer haul.

Marquette returned a lot especially their backcourt duo.

I remain hopeful this bunch will be molded into a team that we are accustomed too but I'm concerned we just don't have the right roster construction to get there.

So far the brightest spot is seeing Kevin ascend into the role that Agbaji and Jalen held the last couple seasons & has been handed off to him. Kev gets it, gives max effort every single play and his perimeter shot does look improved. The guys will follow his lead and hopefully we can get iron sharpening iron at some point.

When we talk about margin for error on teams, at least so far, this one appears to about as razor thin as it gets

Is self a hall of fame coach, yes. Will this team be a 1,2,3 seed, yes. Will they be one of the teams that if they get lucky and the bracket falls right make a final four and win, yes. Are they super underwhelming for the hype, yes. Did self not quite get the right pieces this year and make some bad decisions on who he went after, yes. I think it’s okay to be critical of the team and be frustrated by the early indications this is not a top 5 team unless a couple people really go beyond what is most likely to happen. Could elmarko figure it out, and be a lottery pick guy and Adam’s could take the next step, yes. Early on this doesn’t look like a special group but we will see

Yea, if only we had a Hall of Fame coach who was good at turning boys into men and consistently did more with less every year…

@jayhawks2010 said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Is self a hall of fame coach, yes. Will this team be a 1,2,3 seed, yes. Will they be one of the teams that if they get lucky and the bracket falls right make a final four and win, yes. Are they super underwhelming for the hype, yes. Did self not quite get the right pieces this year and make some bad decisions on who he went after, yes. I think it’s okay to be critical of the team and be frustrated by the early indications this is not a top 5 team unless a couple people really go beyond what is most likely to happen. Could elmarko figure it out, and be a lottery pick guy and Adam’s could take the next step, yes. Early on this doesn’t look like a special group but we will see

Definitely fine with being concerned/critical. The roster is kind of weird and I don't even think Terio would have been some savior there.

Really hard to see Elmarko being a lottery pick after this year but they do draft on potential.

Not saying you are but mostly frustrated with the people that act like this team will miss the tournament. Now that would shock me.

I didn't get a chance to see either exhibition game, but here's what I know about Bill Self in exhibition games. He doesn't coach those games like he does regular season games. He uses the exhibition games to focus on specific things, to tinker and experiment with different rotations. This is twofold for why he does it. One, he doesn't want to show what his exact plans for offensive and defensive sets are and two, he may hit upon something he likes that he can keep in his back pocket for the tournament.

As for specific players. It sounds like many were expecting something different from Hunter Dickinson than what he is. He is not the most mobile or athletic guy, that's why he's still in college instead of the NBA. I've said from the very beginning when he committed that on defense, David McCormack is the comparison player and we will eventually see Self move to the same style of defense the title team ran.
He's also not an elite rebounder, but he is competent in that area and KU will be fine in rebounding.

I'm also not sure why anyone was expecting KU to be an offensive juggernaut this year. This was never going to be a highly skilled offensive team, this always going to be a lower scoring team that wins a lot of games in the 50's and 60's with its defense. Just like the last 2 years, this will be a team that has stretches where it struggles to score points, that's not new and won't change this season.

I'm also not sure why people think Hunter is going to make this team play at a snail's pace. McCormack was very similar to Dickinson in terms of athleticism and KU was still top 75 in tempo during the title season. We're not expecting Dickinson to lead the break, but he is an excellent passer and can start the break. His 3 point ability also makes very dangerous on the break because he can be the trailer and set up at the top of the key for a look there to open up other driving lanes if a defender closes out on him.

I also saw a lot of mention last night of Dickinson being double or triple teamed and players not cutting to the basket. I'm betting that was intentional on Self's part to not show what he's been cooking up this season because that and inbounds plays are his biggest strengths as a play designer. Dickinson does have a reputation of being a great passer for a bog man so I would be surprised if Self doesn't have several cuts for players designed and practiced already when Dickinson is double teamed.

I will acknowledge that not having Morris this season will hurt the offense because that was the guy that could create his own shot when the offense breaks down and I don't believe we have that right now.

There is not a flawless or invincible team in college basketball this season and KU will probably take some L's early on, or least not look great, while the returning core builds in game chemistry with the newcomers, especially Dickinson since he'll be the focal point of the offense this year.

And I do still believe that Dickinson will be in the mix for NPOY by the end of the season.

@BShark I didn’t act like we’d miss the tourney but whoever brought up the Dedric team isn’t far off. This team is better than that but if you can’t shoot you ain’t going that far because we don’t have the athletes to be some elite defensive team

Well I'm gong to hold back on things as this subject is already gotten to people taking swipes at others. Some because just because they don't agree with what they think and that can go both ways. Now you can call me a hater which I will have a good time laughing at - -how childish that is because everyone is entitled to their opinion AND this IS suppose to be an open discussion board

So you can call me a hater, a child , blind whatever it's ok whatever rocks your boat knock yourself out. - All I will say right now is AT THIS POINT - -these guys ARE NOT the # 1 ranked team in the Nation . they aren't even top five. - -Top Ten quite possibly - but right now - -pssssst please. - -like was pointed out if it wasn't for Kevin last night we would of been 2-20 from the three- - - - -2-20 for Christ sakes. A lot of them werren't even that close, ugly shots - -UGLY

Now like the announcers said last night what your going to see is a lot of teams double even triple up on Hunter down low - -and we seen how that went, they are going to make us prove we can hit the outside jumper, which at this point we can't - -Again I asked this last night , how many medium range jumpers did we make last night ? - -hell how many did we even attempt ? -Until we prove we have to respect our outside game then good luck with the inside. Oh and if Hunter is or is gonna be the National Player of the year ? ? / That's a whole different story lol. he is SLOW like they said he came out of a league of plodders, I have said from day one he is just a bad fit, we are at our best when we get out and run transition. - The offense just looks bad

If anyone thinks we are kicking butt by scoring in the 50's and low 60's - -let me have some of what your smoking cause that has got to be some good shit. and you wanting to rely on our defense- -- lol watch the game again and see how many time Fort Hays beat us on straight line drives to the hole for layups. - -Is the season lost ? - -Hell no, but right now I haven't seen where we are going to win a lot either

AT THIS POINT as of today, I would say this team is no better then a 2nd or 3rd place team in the Big 12 this Season . There that's some of my opinion take it - -leave it , I could give a rats ass, but I'm not going to sit here and try to make a beauty queen out of a drag queen either - -It's my opinions, others voice some things the same way and what we wanna do? - -we wanna fry them for their opinion - -that's sweet, but if you like fry me cause I'm a slow cook lmao- - not everyone's opinion has to be the same, different people see things different ways - ROCK CHALK
EDIT: -i changed my mind on holding back

Hear you go , this ought to put you at ease. Pre Matt Tait speaking with Coach Self : - -Is KU ready for a real game ? - -Coach's response : - -NO , NO , NO , NO

coach said : - I think we ( KU ) is tired right now - - -( WHAT ? ? ) especially from playing the main guys so many minutes against Illinois. - -We are not Athletic enough not to play with great energy

Well that's certainly reassuring. - here is a news flash - -it ISN'T GONNA get any better. we have very , very thin bench. - -If these guys are tired already then we are in some deep dog doo.. - I mentioned earlier that I thought because of a thin bench that by the latter third of the Season we could be in trouble, but they are tired already? - -Holy Crap

"This team will be lucky to make the final 4." What a stupid thing to write. KU makes the FF regularly so it's never a surprise and never lucky. Will we make it? I have zero clue. 4.5 months from now we can make more accurate predictions. Does anyone remember last years FF? It was so full of obscure teams I barely can remember them now. We can make it and will go take our semi rightful spot in the semi's. We're KU, we have the best coach in all of college so many of us wrote recently. But because we only beat the gorillas by 18 it really must be time to end the NCAAT streak.

Juan must laugh at all the people that forget he also plays defense superbly AND shot 40% from three last season (I know he still shoots like a junior higher). I just can't believe the ridiculous stuff being written here. But I'm not as smart as you experts and so I guess we'll suck.

@wissox Hate to tell you..the NCAAT streak is over already. People can pretend otherwise but the record is based on official results.

@mayjay said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

@wissox Hate to tell you..the NCAAT streak is over already. People can pretend otherwise but the record is based on official results.

I don't want to accept that :-(

@wissox We always suck - every year - until we don't. This is a statement that can be scientifically proved. Sit anywhere in Allen Fieldhouse and look up. You'll see banner after banner after banner that says "We Suck before the season starts".

@mayjay Was that one of the consequences? I missed that. You shouldn't have told me, now I'm sad, but only in a it doesn't really matter kind of way.

Could be worse: 🐦 View Tweet?s=46&t=PfvO214bW1XkHtm9eUlx9A

I'm not sure if any of us have recovered from the 2019-2020 season ending abruptly. That was the last year I was super stoked about a team to dominate the tourney, but who knows how it would have played out. I was probably higher on the 2022 team than some (Big Dave and young Juando fan), and that year was a pleasant surprise with Remy pulling through at the end.

That said, I think this is going to be a good year--Big ol' Hunter is going to have to learn to play some D and that will be fun to watch. KJ, Kev and Harris will be solid. And, like any interesting year, we'll get to watch some young talent figure out how to get into the rotation. Furphy is my guy to watch at this point... seems like he has a bit of a dingo in him.

For all the hype about transfers, it's really just mostly duds getting passed around to other teams. We're definitely capable of a final 4.

Furphy ate the baby?

Finally got to watch the game….
Juan was not aggressive and turned it over 4 times.

Couldn’t throw a simple entry pass to Hunt first 3 minutes and dribbled it off his foot

Frank and Devonta would never

2 are pro’s and one bill thinks is Stockton and geez he’s got poor talent evaluation at times

Folks. It's November 3. Chill. We literally haven't played a game that counts yet. This mini meltdown is the same after the Nova loss in 2019. Oh Bill can't recruit, Jay Wright has taken over college basketball, should've done this that or the other thing because he's stuck in the 90's on and on. Have a drink, a joint, or club soda and just chiiiiiiill. Bill will have this crew rolling by league play. They're still not close to healthy, guys are still learning their roles, and it bears repeating, IT'S NOVEMBER THIRD.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Folks. It's November 3. Chill. We literally haven't played a game that counts yet. This mini meltdown is the same after the Nova loss in 2019. Oh Bill can't recruit, Jay Wright has taken over college basketball, should've done this that or the other thing because he's stuck in the 90's on and on. Have a drink, a joint, or club soda and just chiiiiiiill. Bill will have this crew rolling by league play. They're still not close to healthy, guys are still learning their roles, and it bears repeating, IT'S NOVEMBER THIRD.

Pretty sure I made the Emperor of College Basketball thread after that exact game.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Exhibition Game Tonight:

Folks. It's November 3. Chill. We literally haven't played a game that counts yet. This mini meltdown is the same after the Nova loss in 2019. Oh Bill can't recruit, Jay Wright has taken over college basketball, should've done this that or the other thing because he's stuck in the 90's on and on. Have a drink, a joint, or club soda and just chiiiiiiill. Bill will have this crew rolling by league play. They're still not close to healthy, guys are still learning their roles, and it bears repeating, IT'S NOVEMBER THIRD.

I might just take the combination of all you mentioned lol - have a drink , roll a joint , not sure about no dam club soda -- might have another drink instead lmao