Let's get another road win.

2 games left on ESPN plus

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RockChalk

Houston spanking UCF, still bummed we couldn’t beat those guys. Don’t want no upstart surprises today.

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20 seconds in and hunter with 1 foul. Already don’t like the announcers

Oh my refs

3 for Johnny

Furph already with a 3, like him starting, and a rebound too!

Furphy is big time

Furphy...

Kev3

Ohhhhhh

Oh my

Dang Furph again!!

Bad foul kev

Fearless Furphy....

Oh my ❤

Hat trick for Furph!!!

AND 1

Furphy is here

UT Baylor was back and forth

Furphy Gunning for #1 scoring option

Furph en fuego

Furphy 2 offensive boards you know Self loves!!!

He’s sr svi as a frosh….18 years old and new country….wow

This starting 5 is nasty! We can win it all with this group

The Furphy experiment is scary.

Not the same w/o Huggy!

They boo KU louder than they cheer their own team.

Nice drive Juando

And 1!

Hulu and espn+ bumped me off and I come back and we’re tied? Grrr

KJ

Listen to these inbred fans

Go inside

Good grief ref that's and 1

Offensive show so far this afternoon

Once West Virginia stops making everything from 3 we good

Might want a little more urgency on the 3 point line.

Coincidence the first WV commercial was about ass cancer? I think not

The zone effectiveness or not will be watched pretty close by rest of conference.

Seriously refs

Come on Kevin

Pretty crazy shooting

Oh boy

Don’t like this lineup much

This tests our depth.

Boom

Nick go get it

Timmmbbberrr

The Nick Timberlake game??

Timber again, nice surprise

Hello bench. Great to see you

Very encouraging minutes with 3 starters on the bench

Timber starting to shine a bit,nice

Wow what a lineup we have on the floor. The Furph our only starter.

@Zabudda KJ is on the bench now too?

Unbelievable

Wow, WVA on trey fire

Nice breather. Weird lineup. This looks more expected, but the results are not.

Of course 8 of 10

8-10 for 3s for them, wtf?

Wow

Yep of course

Omg ref

Better wake up here

Sure

Just got home. We struggling? Hows the Furph? Whos hot whos not?

8/10 from 3 in 13 minutes and they make 6 a game. That sounds about right

There you go

Yep, a 6-11 team is hitting 80% from 3. What else would KU expect

Gtfo

9/11 from 3 lol

SMH

We should have picked our Battles.

This is insane, weather this storm and we will be okay

En fuego. It’s like NBA Jam

They have to cool down in 2nd half

I blame Astrology

Not easy to stay close against that kind of shooting. I remember Texas tech starting a game like that a few years ago and we were down 24 before we knew what hit us

Its crazy KU is down only 3

They can flip this over in 2nd half

It’s a Christmas miracle

That's an insane pass from Nick

Timber, amazing pass to juando

THE NICK TIMBERLAKE GAME

Wow

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

THE NICK TIMBERLAKE GAME

THE NICK TIMBERLAKE GAME

Wow, Nick thanks for showing up big

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT NICHOLAS

Nice little run

Nick Time

Who is the Timberlake kid? I like him

Just a game for weird things I guess.

Leading scorer with 2 minutes to go in the half - Nicolas Timberlake...

Impressively athletic shot by Timberlake

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Just a game for weird things I guess.

Weird tip time, Morgantown, the Plus. Yeah that tracks

Some weird planetary alignment happening clearly. Probably Saturn is to blame

@KirkIsMyHinrich Jupiter and Mars are alright tonight

Timberlake magically remembered how to play basketball again

I was like Kev, no, then it went in

Jeez another no name with his superbowl

Refs come on. Use your brain

Thanks for wasting our time

They reviewed that? Lol

Kid was fast time traveling

I cant

Nooo

A foul? Gtfo of here with that

Silly call there wtf

Dude got to Maine with that walk

WVU on fire from 3, but also shooting over 50% for 2 pt range...

Let’s look at that guy fall down untouched as well

What a crazy half

Nothing like 8 on 5

Traveling by a lot what a strange end to a half.

WVU going to score almost as many points in this half than they did all game against Houston...

I guess we need to work on the full court play

Shit defense by both teams today.

There goes our BPI further into the toilet.

3 guys from WVU at or above their season avg at halftime.

Never thought we’d score 51 in a half be shooting 61% from the floor and 50% from 3, and it be tied.

Getting out rebounded by these guys. Come on.

KJ had another game like this where he didn't score much in the first half. He'd better get it going in the second half

Hell WV only averages 63 oints a game and got 51 at the half

Glad to see Nick come aroun some today nice lift

We might want to try and play some defense the 2nd half. Don't think we need Hunter chucking up three's when WV has no answer for him down low

Super bummed about JP leaving. I'm hoping we can hang on to all of our guys and incoming recruits on defense.

What a crap D possession that was

Sure no fouls

@KirkIsMyHinrich Who is leaving?

@AsadZ said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Who is leaving?

Jordan Peterson is going to Texas A&M

Frozen

No focus already

Not a good start

Kj wtf dude

Man he smoked hunter bad

It would be nice to score this half

Wow - let's get Timberlake on the floor... ;)

Cmon guys

Kj finally with power

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@AsadZ said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Who is leaving?

Jordan Peterson is going to Texas A&M

Peterson is an Aggie. Sucks to lose him, but the allure of doing big things at your alma mater sometimes is too much to pass up.

A lot of wrist on that block

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Kj finally with power

He goes up strong when he can dunk, but when he's going off the dribble with someone trying to deny him, he tends to lean away instead of going into the body...

Bill looks like his health has improved since that Fentanyl commercial

We can't have any scoreless plays

HOW DO YOU MISS THIS

Sure

Horrible missed call holy crap

👊🙌

Launch pad

Kj showing some muscle

And we’re back on top after a ice cold start

KJ with Power

Pedal to the meddle.

Mccullar got us out of the danger zone on a slow start. Here we go.

Nice

A little Defense would be nice.

We’re going to drop to like 69 on KenPom after this one

@FarmerJayhawk Might go up if we lose. lol Kenpom is broken.

Of course you miss

Our defense is like a sieve

Offense has been as bad this half as the defense was the first half.

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Our defense is like a sieve

WVU shooting 60%...

Shit

I just cant

Surprised at their 3 rate this half

The replays of every made luck shot make it worse

Just keep driving and getting fouls called. Man I can’t believe the amount of tough tough shots they are still hitting

Pretty unbelievable shooting. Still expect them to cool off at some point and we better be able to rebound

If every dog has its day, why is it always when the dog plays KU?

EJ

We're making WVU look much, much better than a 6-11 team...

Former KU receiver Steven Sims just had a 67 yard punt return for a TD for the Texans to tie that game at 10.

That's what I mean about KJ - what was that crap???

Whatever hunter

They simply out hustling us to rebounds at this point

Focus time from here out

KJ gets an awful whistle

WVU +7 RBs...

Come on, hawks. They finally miss three shot and get the rebound and score 2 of the 3

Defense started out decent this half for the first 8 or so minutes. Gotten very lazy the past few minutes.

It's looking like the players were looking past today, or at least assuming WVU would be a cake walk the way the OSU game was.

Is there anybody that would like to try and play some defense on battle - -and maybe , maybe wanna guard the three

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Former KU receiver Steven Sims just had a 67 yard punt return for a TD for the Texans to tie that game at 10.

Would like Houston to pull the upset off to keep the possibility of the arrowhead invitational going.

That's how you lose right there

McCullar is being aggressive

just crazy we play like this against UCF now WV------ -terrible defense

I hope they don't rush the court please.

@dylans said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

McCullar is being aggressive

On offense.

Kj who you guarding?

WVU just getting much better looks.

Welp

Not smart play

We are in big big trouble now

Getting owned on the glass by a smaller team is just lack of effort. That's all today is on defense is a lack of effort. At some point, these players have to decide they want to man up and put some effort in, otherwise KU is going to have losses to 2 of the 3 worst teams in the Big 12.

@Zabudda said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

I hope they don't rush the court please.

come on you know they will

Elmarko pushing the paint and then passing it back to braun is just inexplicable

@rcjhdraft

What about not hitting rim on a wide open 3

Not looking good even with all this time left. Ugh

Plenty of time. Crank it up a notch

These are the types of games if your a true contender - - -you win

At this point, find a way to win, move on, and burn this tape.

My goodness. What the heck?!? the atmosphere in Morgantown isn’t like it was, the team is weak. Play some D and box out!!! Let’s stop messing around and go ahead and win by 10.

Aight guys let’s string a couple stops together and get out of here

They have 7 fouls. Need to drive and get them into the double bonus...

Turible

Furph ice cold this half

Lighting sucks on that court. Lost of shadows.

Keep bricking open shots

Furph looking rattled

What the hell was that?????

Lol juan

Boo

And you know they’ll hit every FT down the stretch

Needed that

I wish self would teach a jump stop

Kev keeping my hopes up

Went flying by him. Lol smh

That missed front end could be the difference...

Here we go

1 point game. Lotta time left.

Cool. Good defense

Nice Johnny

Defense yay

Finally a little spark

We gave a ourselves a chance, gotta put together more stops here

Get another turn Juan

Playing the same commercial 4 times as n a row on the break is a bit repetitive

D UP

We have possession arrow too

Kj making 2 FTs, weird game

Atta way KJ

New leader. Good guys

Get off Hunter on his RBing. They had only 11 misses in the 1st and we had 10 boards,

Dammit. That guy has been Smokin Hunter all game

Awful possession...

Pretty close to 10 seconds there

Come on Furph get the next one

Whoever doesn’t do something stupid wins

Did the color guy play for WVU?

@dylans said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Did the color guy play for WVU?

Baylor

@Texas-Hawk-10 Seems to be rooting for wvu. No biggie. ESPN+ games are usually slanted pro KU

Dang, hope it never have to watch a game like this again, just brutal

@dylans the Scott Drew effect

If we would go after rebounds

Entertaining game if you’re not a KU fan

@DanR said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Entertaining game if you’re not a KU fan

Are you not entertained?!?

BS

Now that was a bad call

Wow. 😂

Ummm, ok

How is that a foul

Wow we just don’t go after rebounds I guess

Box out for the love of everything holy!!!

@kjayhawks said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Wow we just don’t go after rebounds I guess

Furphy just sucks at boxing out.

Uh we’ll take that

Better make these Furph

No time outs for WVU

Come on boys.

Hope they miss a few one and we can get a 3 here I suppose

Pressure pressure pressure

It's Zach's birthday. Do it for him.

ALL BALL

Huge

Kev has been our entire offense in the 2d half...

Dang. That’s a 2

There’s a better angle

That was a terrible ungodly terrible foul call on Elmarko. That should be on espns front page but I know it won’t be

@kjayhawks Unfortunately too many blown plays before that - made it critical and we were not getting the whistle. Sux

@dylans rebounding cost us this game.

Glad to see Self test his ticker and look none the worse for the wear.

@kjayhawks said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@dylans rebounding cost us this game.

Shit effort on defense, not just rebounding, cost KU today.

Not our day

GoChiefs

Hunter getting out rebounded, Juan fouling on a key endgame play, homie refs, so many crazy shots going in for them… definitely some weird planetary alignment I hope to never see again

Stort korming is something the announcer said twice.

Pull our players

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Hunter getting out rebounded, Juan fouling on a key endgame play, homie refs, so many crazy shots going in for them… definitely some weird planetary alignment I hope to never see again

KU didn't come to play today, simple as that. They didn't deserve to win with this piss poor effort and have now lost to 2 of the 3 worst teams in the Big 12.

Today has not been a good day

Thankfully barely anyone has ESPN+

That's TWO really ugly losses to bottom dwellars - -fricken TWO

I hate this fn place

KU was looking ahead to Monday.

Lets forget and move on.

We didn’t play hard enough on the glass. We prob just lost the conference folks.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Hunter getting out rebounded, Juan fouling on a key endgame play, homie refs, so many crazy shots going in for them… definitely some weird planetary alignment I hope to never see again

KU didn't come to play today, simple as that. They didn't deserve to win with this piss poor effort and have now lost to 2 of the 3 worst teams in the Big 12.

Sooner or later we got to quit making excuses for these guys, against these kind of teams

@AsadZ said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

KU was looking ahead to Monday.

Lets forget and move on.

how many times we gonna do that ( forget ) - - I forget

Just got to go get ready for Monday and move on. WVU probably won’t play that good again the rest of the year.

Yes, the refs sucked and missed some calls, but KU's lack of effort on defense was a joke. Same thing against UCF. This is a team that plays to the level of their competition and now has a quad 3 loss on their resume.

Onto Cincy.

this team better learn how to play on the road in this conference or it's gonna be a LONG season

They only missed 25 shots the whole game and WVU had 9 offensive boards. They couldn't have played much better.

UCF beats Texas ----UCF beats us ----WV beats Texas - -WV beats us -- bottom dwellars loves seeing these two teams

@Zabudda said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

They only missed 25 shots the whole game and WVU had 9 offensive boards. They couldn't have played much better.

They looked that good because KU played that lazy today.

We put in zero effort defensively this afternoon, yes they did hit some very low percentage shots but to quote our coach”look at the rebounds, that’s how you tell how hard you played” we got out scraped repeatedly on the glass and that was the difference imo.

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

UCF beats Texas ----UCF beats us ----WV beats Texas - -WV beats us -- bottom dwellars loves seeing these two teams

Texas is the 4th worst team in the Big 12, they are one of the cellar dwellers. And no, I don't care that they upset Baylor today or were ranked until a couple of weeks ago. Texas is ranked right around KSU and UCF in the NET rankings because they're not a good team this year.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

UCF beats Texas ----UCF beats us ----WV beats Texas - -WV beats us -- bottom dwellars loves seeing these two teams

Texas is the 4th worst team in the Big 12, they are one of the cellar dwellers. And no, I don't care that they upset Baylor today or were ranked until a couple of weeks ago. Texas is ranked right around KSU and UCF in the NET rankings because they're not a good team this year.

that makes this even worse- -- we just sucked today

If your a true legitimate Contender and not a pretender-- -you don't lose games like this against these kind of teams

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

UCF beats Texas ----UCF beats us ----WV beats Texas - -WV beats us -- bottom dwellars loves seeing these two teams

Texas is the 4th worst team in the Big 12, they are one of the cellar dwellers. And no, I don't care that they upset Baylor today or were ranked until a couple of weeks ago. Texas is ranked right around KSU and UCF in the NET rankings because they're not a good team this year.

that makes this even worse- -- we just sucked today

That's been my point all game. KU played lazy as hell today and did the same against UCF. This team isn't good enough to play lazy and beat bad teams.

Furph and Timber looked so good earlier, it really got my hopes up for this to be their breakout game and for us to start clicking. As Kjay said above, I think this one might have cost us the conference. Very tough loss today for the good guys.

@StLJhawk And KU had an advantage with the unbalanced schedule in playing more games against the bottom dwellers than other teams with 2 each against KSU and OSU. Wins against 1, 6, and 8, and losses to UCF and WVU is one of the weirdest resumes out there now.

Huh, the WV coach is from Osborne so that’s kinda cool I guess. NCK stand up

Same reason for loss at UCF... soft defense.

Our offense didn't look too bad, but it says it all when you score 85 points and lose.

Hunter really played bad defense.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

UCF beats Texas ----UCF beats us ----WV beats Texas - -WV beats us -- bottom dwellars loves seeing these two teams

Texas is the 4th worst team in the Big 12, they are one of the cellar dwellers. And no, I don't care that they upset Baylor today or were ranked until a couple of weeks ago. Texas is ranked right around KSU and UCF in the NET rankings because they're not a good team this year.

that makes this even worse- -- we just sucked today

That's been my point all game. KU played lazy as hell today and did the same against UCF. This team isn't good enough to play lazy and beat bad teams.

Nope their not,- - I mean the defense was as bad s I've seen it in a LOOOOOOOOONG WHILE. Guys with wide open three's just well , not good almost everywhere you look. I mean there is always the easy take of-- Well the ref , the ref . They think they had it bad today -- Cinn will beat our ass on the boards and physical as hell, they better be redy for a war Monday - -Cin gonna be bringin and bringin it hard real physical.

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Furph and Timber looked so good earlier, it really got my hopes up for this to be their breakout game and for us to start clicking. As Kjay said above, I think this one might have cost us the conference. Very tough loss today for the good guys.

Whoever wins is gonna have more then two losses, guys were talking earlier your gonna look at probably the winner having five losses. there are no nights off although I guess these guys think so

I will say that once WVU gets to play more with the whole team, they be better than the 7-11 that they are currently.

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Furph and Timber looked so good earlier, it really got my hopes up for this to be their breakout game and for us to start clicking. As Kjay said above, I think this one might have cost us the conference. Very tough loss today for the good guys.

Whoever wins is gonna have more then two losses, guys were talking earlier your gonna look at probably the winner having five losses. there are no nights off although I guess these guys think so

13-5 probably wins the league this year. The Big 12 is already down to two 1 loss teams with one of those being a projected bottom 4 team in the league in KSU.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Furph and Timber looked so good earlier, it really got my hopes up for this to be their breakout game and for us to start clicking. As Kjay said above, I think this one might have cost us the conference. Very tough loss today for the good guys.

Whoever wins is gonna have more then two losses, guys were talking earlier your gonna look at probably the winner having five losses. there are no nights off although I guess these guys think so

13-5 probably wins the league this year. Tge Big 12 is already down to two 1 loss teams with one of those being a projected bottom 4 team in the league in KSU.

Yes Sir I think your right. - -Think it will be five like others have stated ---- MIGHT be Six , I tll you what you better dam well protect your home floor cause if you lose at home your screwed. - -K/State has had pretty easy schedule so far- -they are gonna take some beatings , but that's not an excuse. KU just needs to worry about KU take car of business, today they didn't do it just a bad display on defense No excuse for hunter only getting 5 boards, and got beat multiple times on defense. - -KJ looked out of sorts he was getting beat on defense - -just a sucky display.--I think alot of this is, they play down to the competition, There are times they take things for granted

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in [KU vs No More Huggy

Whoever wins is gonna have more then two losses, guys were talking earlier your gonna look at probably the winner having five losses. there are no nights off although I guess these guys think so

13-5 probably wins the league this year. The Big 12 is already down to two 1 loss teams with one of those being a projected bottom 4 team in the league in KSU.

Yea, but losing to bottom dwellers outta the gate does not seem to be a good conference winning strategy.

But still, a lot of ball still to be played.

@StLJhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in [KU vs No More Huggy

Whoever wins is gonna have more then two losses, guys were talking earlier your gonna look at probably the winner having five losses. there are no nights off although I guess these guys think so

13-5 probably wins the league this year. The Big 12 is already down to two 1 loss teams with one of those being a projected bottom 4 team in the league in KSU.

Yea, but losing to bottom dwellers outta the gate does not seem to be a good conference winning strategy.

But still, a lot of ball still to be played.

I didn't say KU would be one of those 13-5 teams.

At this point I think 6 losses gets a share. Tech is currently getting boatraced by BYU, which will mean everyone but KSU will have 2 losses already.

Everybody loses games. Things can turn on a dime. We all look at the same stats but it was a close game and the team tried to win. We have said all year we are a talented team but work with a small margin of error. WVU played great today.

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

At this point I think 6 losses gets a share. Tech is currently getting boatraced by BYU, which will mean everyone but KSU will have 2 losses already.

Ya this league is just stupid good, I mean BYU is just curb stompin TECH AT TECH

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

At this point I think 6 losses gets a share. Tech is currently getting boatraced by BYU, which will mean everyone but KSU will have 2 losses already.

Tech isn't getting boatraced anymore.

@Texas-Hawk-10 ah well. Go Mormons

I go and compliment this team early and they lay an egg well actually 4/5 starters played great

Check the box score and tell me which one of these things is not like the other

@kuballin10 play great? wtf?

It's a crying shame I missed this game. 😢
🤣🤣🤣

@dylans said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Stort korming is something the announcer said twice.

Haha, Couldn't watch the game, but saw the last minute at a friends because I heard Gurley freak out on the Elmarko alleged foul so I wanted to watch that play. Then I heard the dude say that stort corming! Didn't make me feel much better but I'm also glad I couldn't watch.

@FarmerJayhawk Yeah everyone played well…scored in double figures except our pg who got torched from a bad az transfer

@wissox call was baaadddd dude was losing the ball as he was about to travel and EJ stripped him

Self rightfully so went bonkers

@kuballin10 no, they all sucked hind tit. The effort on defense and boards was embarrassing.

Gurley just freaked out on the Elmarko call on the radio. Usually the media guys hold back a little bit on ref calls but not there.

@wissox it was Bob Davis at missery bad when Morris got called for a flagrant and Davis went nuts….

@FarmerJayhawk Juan had 5 steals but hand down man down every other time

Agree effort defensively was poor but we should be able to outscore these guys and if Juan gets his double digits we’d won….

He was aggressive then just stopped shooting

@kuballin10 we gave up 91 points to the worst team in the league. One guy doesn’t get heat for that.

I know it’s your schtick but Hunter and Furphy got abused all game long. This one was a total team effort. Nobody played great. Or even that good.

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@kuballin10 we gave up 91 points to the worst team in the league. One guy doesn’t get heat for that.

I know it’s your schtick but Hunter and Furphy got abused all game long. This one was a total team effort. Nobody played great. Or even that good.

OMG here we go again time to blast Juan Holy crap

@kuballin10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@FarmerJayhawk Juan had 5 steals but hand down man down every other time

Agree effort defensively was poor but we should be able to outscore these guys and if Juan gets his double digits we’d won….

He was aggressive then just stopped shooting

You must be extremely flexible to pull off those mental gymnastics to put all the blame on Dejuan for today.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@kuballin10 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@FarmerJayhawk Juan had 5 steals but hand down man down every other time

Agree effort defensively was poor but we should be able to outscore these guys and if Juan gets his double digits we’d won….

He was aggressive then just stopped shooting

You must be extremely flexible to pull off those mental gymnastics to put all the blame on Dejuan for today.

I think he just sits back and waits with baited breath for Juan. I've NEVER seen someone who is so infatuated with a player, Juan didn't cost us to lose this game by any means.--try how our so called defense really sucked.- -you need to quit ridin Juan so hard - -holy crap dude give it a break your getting old

Insert angry rant here…

This is getting kind of old, losing to theoretically crap teams. I mean, WVU lost to Radford! (Among others)

Possibly the worst first half performance defensively in recent memory.

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

I’ve NEVER seen someone who is so infatuated with a player

HEM was with both Jamari Traylor and Brady Morningstar

I don’t think anyone played great defensively yesterday.

@mayjay said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

I’ve NEVER seen someone who is so infatuated with a player

HEM was with both Jamari Traylor and Brady Morningstar

Dam that must be a miserable life o live like that

It's not fun to play the blame game... but I will.

I blame everyone except Furph and Timberlake. Both those guys played to their potential!

Everyone else played like they needed a nap. And we can't use the excuse that they play too many minutes. They do.. but so do other players in college basketball that still come to play.

We need some leadership. We need someone stepping up now and taking charge... someone to lead, cheer lead, bring energy, help establish team pride, help establish team identity.

I can see this team losing 8 - 10 games this year. Because of our wins on top teams, it should help keep our NCAA appearance string alive.

It doesn't have to be like this. We can play with anyone if we decide to.

How about blaming Bill?

I don't like to blame Bill.... but he's had some alarming statements that make me think he's about ready to call it quits. He admits to coaching softer and even his players admit it.

It's going to get harder for our team to come hyped up to play a game.

I'm starting to see the writing on the wall. Hate to admit this, too.

I thought Kevin was playing hard, his body language was good.

I am surprised that Bill did not play Nick much in second half especially in final 10 minutes.

I thought Nick had a solid first half, best so far in games played here.

His passing was good, and he was playing with energy.

Gurley and Hanni on the radio near the end of the game were saying that WVU was missing quite a few guys earlier in the year. I noticed 3 guys who played key roles yesterday who have played in only 8, or fewer, games. So I think their poor record is a bit misleading is what Hanni and Gurley were saying. I'm not saying we couldn't have beat them but it sounds like they were really missing some guys that would have made their record and ranking higher.

@drgnslayr said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

Because of our wins on top teams, it should help keep our NCAA appearance string alive.

So we'll get to 5? 😒

WVU pulled shots out of their entire collective asses. A team that shoots 31% from three lays a 57% 12 makes on us. Game came down to the wire and we got a bad call on Elmarko when he caused a steal and then the inbound play Elmarko got body checked out of the way by the guy who caught the inbound pass so he got screwed twice in a row. Battle a 40% FG and 25% 3 point goes 7 of 13 and 3 of 7. It wasn't great defense but the ball went their way all game.
Freak game. Now we need a complete game from first half Furphy and kinda first half KJ too. Sometimes HD get messed up on perimeter switches and leaves the post wide open. They went right at our freshman phenom but The Furph's all around stats were very good and zero turnovers.

If you watched post game, Kevin played D really bad on his man shooting 3's. To far off, helping off to much. Furphy missed his block outs really bad at the end of game, think they were counting 4. And yes they have guys back that didn't start out with them. Their really good big man didn't even play, says a lot about Hunter not going after boards. Furphy will learn!

@drgnslayr said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

It's not fun to play the blame game... but I will.

I blame everyone except Furph and Timberlake. Both those guys played to their potential!

Everyone else played like they needed a nap. And we can't use the excuse that they play too many minutes. They do.. but so do other players in college basketball that still come to play.

We need some leadership. We need someone stepping up now and taking charge... someone to lead, cheer lead, bring energy, help establish team pride, help establish team identity.

I can see this team losing 8 - 10 games this year. Because of our wins on top teams, it should help keep our NCAA appearance string alive.

It doesn't have to be like this. We can play with anyone if we decide to.

I know this also , these two losses does not look good on our resume. I'd be willing to go out and say- -THIS Team will not be a # 1 seed come Tourney time, especially if they lose 8-10 games like you say - -I can seee them losing 8 anyways - -just not good

@jayballer67 lets see where those teams end the season

Think we take substantial drop in polls.---- 8th possibly ?

I think the defensive issues are mostly on Hunter and Furphy. They get out of position or are slow to rotate causing KJ, Kev, or Harris to have to cover MASSIVE amounts of space. They seem to be recovering late to 3 pt shooters because they've had to deny a pass into someone who is wide open under the basket. Self always says the best defensive teams help the helper. This team doesn't do that yet. And unfortunately, having 3 pretty good individual defenders can't make up for a couple of guys (more if any of the main 3 are on the bench) that just aren't engaged beyond trying to keep tabs on their own man and failing even at that. Hunter has shown some signs of improving as a low post defender but when he gets out in space, he just can't recover. The high p&r just murders him and he's left basically standing 30 feet from the hoop where he can't defend or rebound at all. They've been trying to hedge more on those to blow them up but it just isn't working. I do worry the overall switch 4 strategy just isn't going to work for this team which means we could be in for some ugly defensive games as we transition to something else.

@benshawks08 what can Braun D for you?

@approxinfinity He definitely has more foot speed to do what needs to be done in those situations, but not the experience in Self's system. People always wonder why freshman and transfers struggle offensively but it's more about what he demands players do on D. When it works it's elite. Our title teams have both been able to lock teams down seemingly at will by turning up the pressure and having such help rotation that there just isn't a shot.

This team is getting there but WVU exposed the weaknesses pretty well and capped it off with just stupid good shooting. The 3s and all the turn around fade away jumpers don't help a defense look good. If they shoot their season average from 3 that game and nothing else changes, we win by close to double digits. I'd argue without the liquid hot first half from those guys from behind the arc, the game never gets close.

@jayballer67 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@drgnslayr said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

It's not fun to play the blame game... but I will.

I blame everyone except Furph and Timberlake. Both those guys played to their potential!

Everyone else played like they needed a nap. And we can't use the excuse that they play too many minutes. They do.. but so do other players in college basketball that still come to play.

We need some leadership. We need someone stepping up now and taking charge... someone to lead, cheer lead, bring energy, help establish team pride, help establish team identity.

I can see this team losing 8 - 10 games this year. Because of our wins on top teams, it should help keep our NCAA appearance string alive.

It doesn't have to be like this. We can play with anyone if we decide to.

I know this also , these two losses does not look good on our resume. I'd be willing to go out and say- -THIS Team will not be a # 1 seed come Tourney time, especially if they lose 8-10 games like you say - -I can seee them losing 8 anyways - -just not good

Looks like they have 6 more road games (is that right?). I'd say 4-2, 3-3, or even 2-4 are all possible for the road games but not really any worse than that. Then throw in 1 MAYBE even 2 losses at Allen and that's 5-6 more. another in the big 12 tourney and then more than likely one more in the NCAA tournament. That could get us to 10 or 11.

My hope is that they only drop one in Allen, and then get back to .500 on the road. That would give them a good shot at still winning the conference. As far as the one seed goes, doesn't look like anyone is solidifying themselves as a surefire 1 seed so who knows where everyone will be by March. Right now we have dropped 3 and there are only a handful of 2 loss teams out there. And it's not like those other teams don't have some headscratchers too as far as bad losses go...

Well I wasn't to far off as to how far we would fall. - -I said probably drop to 8th - -we dropped to 7th. -- Big twelve still has seven teams i top 25 STRONG

Timberlake has an edge to his game and he, Furphy and Parker show no fear and Elmarko is getting there. Elmarko does have that mid range shot he hits too. It would help if we could get more downhill baskets but it's going to be tough until we get the moxie to shoot our open three opportunities. Juan hits his only when it's not his second or third option which is true of Elmarko when has open looks but hesitates and air balls them and when Furphy double pumps or forces up an off balance side step try he misses. Nick does have a nifty pump fake and slide left he has swished. Bombs the eff away because until we do it's a whole season of defenses packing the paint and close ass wins or losses and acid indegestion.

@Zabudda

We shoot way too many midrange jumpers imo.

@BeddieKU23 i have a hard time seeing mid range jumpers as beneficial for us as well. Though if KJ takes them at least it means hes in the mix to stop the resulting transition offense the other way…

@approxinfinity

Gotta be a balance there, last night KJ/Kev fell right for it due to Cincinnati packing the lane. We all know the analytics behind the midrange shot. I just think we settle for too many and it's not good offense for our players.

Kev is shooting 34% on 2 pt jumpers, Harris 31% and on roughly 1/4 of their total shot attempts. Not great by any means.

KJ and Hunter shoot 48% and 52% respectfully and the volume is high (37%, 47%) of attempts. Way too many 2 pt shots from your bigs especially Hunter.

@BeddieKU23 I'd disagree about Hunter and KJ. Those percentages aren't bad and for KJ especially, it's how he is going to contribute to the offense and help provide a little more space for Hunter to get the truly easy ones. That doesn't mean I want KJ to shoot that 15 footer EVERY time it is open, but a couple a game can do wonders to keeping a defense more honest and prevent more clogging of the lane.

Looking UCF spanking WVU currently looking like that loss isn’t t near as bad as the WVU

We are in danger, imminent danger, of Furphy being defended like Gradey. Put as athletic a SF as they have belly button to belly button on him to deny him the three attempt. Then with the four on four game against a packed in defense what are we going to do? Hunter is 0 for 7 on his last 3P attempts. Juan or Kevin to the rescue? If we could keep teams off their offensive boards we could get out and run but we are dead last in stopping our conference opponents from getting additional chances.

@benshawks08 said in KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat:

@BeddieKU23 I'd disagree about Hunter and KJ. Those percentages aren't bad and for KJ especially, it's how he is going to contribute to the offense and help provide a little more space for Hunter to get the truly easy ones. That doesn't mean I want KJ to shoot that 15 footer EVERY time it is open, but a couple a game can do wonders to keeping a defense more honest and prevent more clogging of the lane.

I don't see KJ knocking that shot down enough to be respectable

@benshawks08

I'm hesitant to believe in the numbers being good for Hunter/KJ because the data isn't broken down enough to see the splits from where the shots are coming from. A long 2 vs a 10-12 footer is a big difference.

I want to see KJ continue to expand his range which he's showing at times but the issue is consistency. It's a good shot when it goes down but feels like an empty possession when he misses. I hope he gets to where we can count on that shot. He's gotten really good at the push shot off the short role in the paint. The face up jumper though still doesn't look natural but I hope he gets it there.

Hunter tends to take a fair amount of 2's outside the paint. Recently he's been missing those shots more which is concerning (likely due to the knee). We know he can shoot it and has a nice shot. I do get frustrated sometimes when he gets a shot up so fast after catching it because if he doesn't make it there's nobody from KU in position for an offensive rebound. Some of the uniqueness of his skillset doesn't help the other 4 because at times he's too fast for everyone. He's obviously worked very hard to where it's unique to his game but those long 2's become a risky shot. I still don't think we've found the balance between getting him enough paint touches where he's so deadly. He should be living at the FT line.

@Zabudda Furphy seems to be a better cutter than Gradey was so if teams guard him aggressively, he may be able to still exploit that. Even if not, that still would occupy the opponents best defender for the game and give everyone else a better matchup. That's still good for a guy that was the 6/7th man a month ago.

Hunter is still over 40% from 3 from the season even with the 0-7 recently. Offense has looked good lately and I think we are looking for things to complain about if that is the concern right now.

Problem recently seems to be that the starters are playing so many minutes that the defensive intensity takes a hit. I worry about that less in march when the stakes are higher, but this team definitely plays down to their competition. That will make winning the b12 difficult.

@MR11 defense has definitely been an issue since B12 play started. One thing to consider during the NCAA tournament commercial breaks and halftime are longer.

Anyone know what Huggy is doing now, since not Coaching ?

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