Lock in. Hopefully they overcome the 8 on 5 they are facing. 4 days rest should help kev and hunt here.

I hope the refereeing disparity during the KSt game and the fan hostilities will be corrected for KU's game. The Big 12 officials took an internet beating over the foul disparity and intentionally missed calls. That should be corrected and maybe even overly corrected during our game. I'll be curious if KU shows any fire today. I'm disappointed that this team doesn't seem to mind losing. Maybe a coach like Frank Mason would show these guys what it takes to win all the time.

Would they storm the court with a win?

23 ISU is favored by 4.5 over #7 KU. Hmm. Maybe there's more magic in the oddsmakers' heads than in Hilton.

@kjayhawks said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Would they storm the court with a win?

of course

Turnovers key today. Juan we are counting on you

KU has the #1 FG% on the road. That's a pretty interesting stat.

Sacrficing a live BShark to ensure victory today

Houston is bad ass today. KSU can hardy get a shot off and the first five minutes of the game they did not get any off. Wow.

Houston has a substantially larger scoring margin than other team last year and this year i think. Will be interesting to see if they can maintain that in B12

Cute, a whiteout.

Don't get down by double digits please.

Weak call

Why did the coaches dress up for this game? Jackets at least.

@tundrahok said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Why did the coaches dress up for this game? Jackets at least.

CBS?

Clank kev

Good steal!

Jones is a grown ass man compared to Furphy

Nice baseline cut Furph

Weak call. Again

FURPH!

@tundrahok coaches for cancer

Bang! Make em pay

Nice drive, Kevin

Big time play kev

Coats and tennis shoes, I think

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

coaches for cancer

Thanks. Good for them.

Self looks good. He should wear a suit more often

@KirkIsMyHinrich he'll never go back, I wouldn't either.

LFG

ROCKCHALK 👊

I do like to dress up, but not in a hot gym!

@Crimsonorblue22 Ya, fair

Good start on throws

Isu coaches shirts look uncomfortable

Weak foul

Let someone else miss a couple, Kev

travel

Kj gonna get 2

Boo

Hunt has to get those bunnies

Boo birds

Lol, boo all u want

Nice Juan

Good charge call. Not sure what the announcers were looking at

BS

Kev got hit

Nick has to pass that

What in the actual

Going for espn top 10

Good hands on D though

Make the easier ones if there are any. Lol.

3/4 calls going ISU way.

Buddy you had two guys who lay that in

Nick had kev for the better shot. That's a play Juan would have made

Is Hunter able to dunk? Dude is 7’2” enough of the short jumpers!!!

Yeah Nick looked like a deer in the headlights there

Love out hustle so far.

So far our defensive pressure has been great. But we need shots to fall.

Our pressure has resulted in some switches and mismatches that Iowa State hasnt taken advantage of

No KJ

Fouls becoming an issue

Games official

Game is rigged

Refs . Man.

Why? KJ should not have pushed outward.

Good grief refa

Only 2 KU TOs, nice

Kev you gotta make them

Too open

Yes it was

Good grief kev

he rushed it.

Parker had a birthday yesterday

Wiped out the make to get a wide open miss. Damn the luck

Whatever

That is such a foul.

Braun's rebounding awareness is just insanely bad

Oh but that's a foul. I'm done

Hunter sucks today

One-sided on Kev.

Our big boys are 3 for 16.

Sorry kev. They only don’t call fouls when you’re the one getting havked

Too many jumpers. He can take two steps from anywhere in the arc and dunk. Sheesh

Im behind you guys. This feels like Iowa State settling in and getting comfy with their perimeter shots

F you ref

Good god.

Hahahaha refs

Finally

Rebounding hasn’t improved any I see.

Shooting so bad, and only down 2

Wow

@DanR~~4~~ 2

@dylans 2

-1

Now Rafferty is on the bandwagon, seeing fouls on Kev

That’s the Juan Harris I remember

Way to jinx him farmer

DJ 🙋‍♀️

Woooo

DAjuan cooking

Nice response juando

ISU can’t hit shit. How bad is the rebounding to leave them in the game?

They are actually shooting worser

Heads up play and Juan into it for sure.

Offense looks fine minus the shooting the ball part

@dylans said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

ISU can’t hit shit. How bad is the rebounding to leave them in the game?

Nearly even

Houston still ahead?

@RockChalkinTexas barely

Boy we have just GOT TO get Dickinson & Mc Cullar out of this shooting slump

74-52

Purples are bad

Hunter 1-6 McCullar 3-11

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

74-52

Purples are bad

Houston’s sign stealing game must be ELITE

Statistically both teams should be getting blown out

@FarmerJayhawk LOL

Anybody noticing the fouls seperating us and them- - hmmmm, were in Hilton

7-3

It's obvious

Nice

Hoping Kev and Hunter regress to their mean.

The no calls are as big as the calls. Just power thru. That’s life on the road. Luckily our guys are not soft.

Can’t leave Lipsey open

Kevin

A dunk from a post! Got excited thinking Hunter got his legs back. Nope, good job Braun!

Green line up

What

Hard to screen for u Kevin when u r all over the place

I hate to blame that on Kev, but wtf you doin kev?

@bskeet said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

It's obvious

Exactly, that's why I said it - - -knew that was coming. Three fouls in a half ? - -Maybe not

I must be ahead of some of you

Kevin's a lil grouchy today

@RockChalkinTexas u r

3 frickin fouls on them. Drive it

30 points by the half looks pretty good

They just call charges

I’m going to have to hook up a digital antenna. Tested at my Buds house and it was 13 seconds ahead of cable feed

@DanR that's ME

Tired of living in the past, man

Boards

Nice. Got an offensive board and made a jumper. Wow

The double team has fouled Dickinson 2 times before. No call.

Raftry your blind

Maybe they fouled before that

Icey Icey day by Hunter and Kevin

Kev can't make layups today. Great

Finally

Way to stay at it Furph

Rafferty is delirious

I’m outraged

@bskeet said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Rafferty is delirious

Can’t open his eyes.

Hunt

Otzelberger new weird wuss of the conference? As if Elon Musk and a hamburger had a love child?

Why is Nick fading on that wide open jump shot

Traveled.. Idiot bailed out

Awful awful call .

ISU sux at shooting thankfully

No call on Kev but on that? Mmmmay

@dylans said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

ISU sux at shooting thankfully

only thing keeping us close.

Kev is about as graceful as a moose

A tisket a tasket make a effing basket

Great foul!

good god.

BS again

lol he whiffed

Juan fouled, they call it on us

Flagrant None

8 hunter rebounds

oh it will be a flagrant.

Yeah that looked pretty bad in slow motion

Of course

To be fair, the guy sold it

If we could just make a layup

Flagarant one - - now Tech

Well dont try to be deceptive and put your head where the ball should be! This isnt soccer

1/8 from 3. Come on guys

We're 3-0 when Bill gets a technical

Make sure ISU gets the lead.

Well thats costly

We just lost now gonna be down 5 or 6 now at the half

Yeah. Absolutely rigged game

Lol was that a Jim Carrey clone?

We still have time to miss at least one more three

I think bill is more upset about beating Kev has been getting

It's been atrocious

Im sure there was a lane violation

Bill using all the good cuss words

That was some nice D Jackson - -really sweet thanks

I’m not gonna be able to watch the second half prob a good thing

@DanR said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Bill using all the good cuss words

“Oh for fucks sake” Bill Self

Surprised they didn't call a foul on EJ

Garbage. Way to go refs. A portfolio of no calls and then call by the book when it benefits ISU.

A five point swing.

McCullar 3-13

What a moron. Half the fouls on jobes

KJ sitting hurt us

Lol Bill

Dckinson & McCullar best get their heads out their ass

Bill is HOT

Generated a good shot but not sure why furphy and Kj weren't in there for the final possession

I feel good about our chances

Self is accurate.

Old kev is back

Kevin just needs to make a shot, had 5 or 6 that had bows on them

They thought before game our bigs would go off

Everything goes right second half and we win by 7

Foul trouble looming.

They tanged us!

Behind on th DVR, but my comment right now is refs not dooing us any favors.

@wissox It won’t get better this half.

Not sure mccullar could shoot any worse. Damn

Kev geting hammered and getting the foul about 1/4 times.

Kevin has a bad habit everytime he shoots and misses he bitch's about getting fouled that's not helping you. quite a few your not fouled

This is off the top of my head, but as of yesterday the AP top 10 is something like 17-28 against unranked opponents on the road. Weird year. No dominant team.

Not going to win many games hen you shoot 34.4 Fg - - 11.1 3pt % - - -ISU 5 three pointers and KU ONE BIG ONE. - -Guess it's just to much to ask for a solid game for a change- - Those stats aren't gonna win you many games

2 best players are 5-18. Step up

KJ, Furphy and Kevin will have to sit a bit with a quick foul. 2 fouls each.

A Christmas miracle

Maybe refs can only see fouls on that end of the floor.

@patoh3 said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Maybe refs can only see fouls on that end of the floor.

Here’s hopin’!

Thats a foul

Hunter was like, No way I'm giving this back to Kev

Hunter was like, No way I'm giving this back to Kev

Hunter is shooting much better this half!

Maybe kev will make the 10th one

Like when players pass to their coach.

boy these guys are hard to watch

Lazy pass come on guys. Good timeout. Brain reset

Tough when just playing good defense is a foul

OK , reset and finish this on a high

"Kev and Hunter better get their heads out of their ...." I read. Good grief. We'd be losing by about 20 if those guys weren't playing decently. I know fans get frustrated, but these guys have to play virtually every minute because the bench is so thin. I peaked at that comment while catching up on the DVR and thought, oh crap we must have fallen apart, and we hadn't. Crazy talk.

Kevin is killing us

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

"Kev and Hunter better get their heads out of their ...." I read. Good grief. We'd be losing by about 20 if those guys weren't playing decently. I know fans get frustrated, but these guys have to play virtually every minute because the bench is so thin. I peaked at that comment while catching up on the DVR and thought, oh crap we must have fallen apart, and we hadn't. Crazy talk.

exactly just killin us

OK, whatever jayballer.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Kevin is killing us

Agreed, but we would be getting blown out with out him. Double edge sword, unfortunately the only answer is for Kevin to play better. Poor roster construction as it turns out.

Uh-oh. Crucial moment.

@wissox Why would they be tired in the first half after being off all week

Ahhh

Telegraphed the lob

Sit McCullar down

Yeah lets sit Kevin and lose for sure.

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Yeah lets sit Kevin and lose for sure.

Or , Or, leave him in and let him continue to turn it over - -there is an idea

@jayballer67 said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Yeah lets sit Kevin and lose for sure.

Or , Or, leave him in and let him continue to turn it over - -there is an idea

their loing with him in and he is one of the main reasons we are. Not Scoring - -Not rebounding BUT is turning it over

I feel good about the next 4 minutes.

Why wouldn't you sit KJ instead? He only has 2 points, 3 RBs, 2 TO's (1 less than Kev), 3 fouls. Nobody is making outside shots and a lot of guys are making silly turnovers but sit Kevin. Brilliant keyboard analysis.

@jayballer67 hey hey hey, Kev has 6 boards, that's the one thing he's done halfway OK

@wissox KJ sat half of the first half

Our boys arent panicking. Let our starters figuure this out.

@approxinfinity Good vibes for the good guys!

Oh man Mommas Boy

@DanR said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

@jayballer67 hey hey hey, Kev has 6 boards, that's the one thing he's done halfway OK

turned the ball ove 5 times too so there is something else he is doing a good job of too lol

Intensity is lacking and has been all year. There is no switch to flip. They don’t understand changing pace. You don’t have to push it all game to put the threat of it to force the d to run back.

This is the team. They are rock steady. When other teams hit their lull KU powers thru. On the down side there is no high gear.

ISU has 27 pts from 3 - we have 3....

If they had called those fouls earlier in the game it would be completely different game.

@DCHawker said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

ISU has 27 pts from 3 - we have 3....

That's why we're losing.

JUAN

Yeah BANG Dajuan

here we go. got it into single digits

Our starters are all we have nice Juan

Most of those 3s are recent, when they got confidence.

Travel

I thought there was no continuation in college.

Everything is falling for ISU because the refs bolster them up artificially with one-sided calls.

Yeah that was an absurd continuation

KJ won’t quit

KJ bringing the heat

They cant stay this hot. We did fine this 4

Wow another shit call

Look if they go 12/12 from 3 this half you just tip your cap and move on

Come on give us a chance refs

nope

How can everyone get hot on 3’s against us?

Yes KJ

@patoh3 defensive intensity isn’t there. Too many minutes.

Last week WV 57 % from the 3 -this week Iowa State who shoots 34 % from the 3 is 10-20 50 % -- -hmmmm

We help off to much, scout report.

We started this 4 at -7. Now at -10 with 2 fts, battling shit calls and insane 3s

That being said Kev passed up a 3 there. We need a 3 pt shooter badly

Nick and Morris both fizzled there Aprox

Cyclones are shooting off like crazy

Ok next 4

Nice long break there to cool the clowns down

If Timberlake was Moss this team would be so much better.

See all those college students wearing those silly wigs? They've never in their lifetime seen a team sniff the final four. This game every year is their freaking reason for existence.

Another game against a team playing multiple standard deviations above their average.

there you go Johnny

Yes Furph

Twelve made thre's

Hahahahaha

they shoot 3s faster than you can type

KJ read my comment to bench him!

keep hanging

Insane. They will never shoot like this again in their life

Get a stop or two again.

Yeah Furph! Bigtime board

That kind of day

If they go 0 - 20 the rest of the way they will be at their average.

Sylvester Stallones kid

Oh god. These guys are hedging baseline drives hard and taking away the drive and kick

Only the 90 year olds in the stands are old enough to remember ISU in the Final Four. 1944.

I feel like I am watching little Mac from 8bit NES days take on Mike Tyson. They keep getting up off the mat bloodied and bruised. No help from the ref.

I will support them to the end. What effort.

gotta get a stop

Fouls sneaking up on ISU here. Stay aggressive

Another foul on Kev with no call

We are +1 this 4 minutes

maybe the cold front has moved into Ames

KJ bonus free throw I'm assuming a miss

Yeah getting groin blasted all over the court is still a foul

And they will call fouls for KJ forever knowing it's going to be a good trade 1 point instead of 2.

Did anyone notice in the first half an ISU guy camped in the lane, you could hear HCBS yell 3 seconds, and the refs ignored it and ISU made a 3 on the 5th second he was in the lane?

KJ has to hit these -- tighten up a little bit more - Big one's right here cut it to Seven

Yep. Shave a couple more and watch their shooters tighten up, maybe

On to the next 4. Let’s cut the lead.

Have we substituted at all yet?

Gotta get this to a 2 possession game under 5 to have a better shot.

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Fouls sneaking up on ISU here. Stay aggressive

2 players with 3 fouls. Need to go at them.

I’m at basketball with my son the updates don’t look good

Furphy is showing a complete game ability.

Lets give Jones his 4th for sure

Nice KJ

geet a stop

We've been getting a favorable whistle this half.

@AsadZ said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Have we substituted at all yet?

Only Braun, Timberlake, and Jackson off the bench today. Very limited minutes.

OVER THE BACK

Over the back

ok Kevin drain these two

Give me a fn break

"Pretty good defense". WHAT???

Good D, DA

We are battling the world right now and winning the last 5 minutes

that shit only averages 9 a game and has 21 today

Marathon runners. They are built for the last 5 minutes.

If we do, it will be the best conference win since the game at KState in 2022

@jayballer67 How does that make him shit?

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

@jayballer67 How does that make him shit?

Because he is pulling half these shots out his ass

Chance for the bench to make a big difference.

And... opportunity lost.

Freshman mistake Marko

Gets cooked again

Jackson is outclassed today. Big boy ball

Wow Johnny!

Furph hello

Boy for a freshman Furphy sure hits some huge shots

Jesus

We're scoring every time down. Need a stop or two.

Word to your Moms he came to drop bombs

Here… we…. Come

OK , down four - - -tighten the jocks and get in these guys play some strong D

Bang! Still a chance.

Heart of STEEL if they can overcome this.

See ball and man! All the time!

Furphy

The Furph is something my goodness

time for Kev to break out of the slump .

Good 3 minutes. Keep it up.

Make the crowd nervous. That energy will make ISU uptight. That is the only downside of the home crowd. Keep it up good guys!!!

Theres no friggin foul

Awful. Awful.

get THE STOP

More weak calls. They started the game calling weak and continue.

Nice touch pass

Get a stop!!! Right here!

Ride the big fella

dAM GET THE FRICKEN REBOUND - - -JUST KILLS US

Lets see that again

Bail them out again Refs.

Oh my goodness, KJ with the block of the year and they call a freaking foul.

Awful call

Rewatched, may have been with the body.

That's more garbage on top of the garbage.

They only call body fouls when it's on us.

If it had been us shooting the ball, it would have been a clean block.

Kev and Hunter are getting banged ALL DAY. Nothing

This thing is so close right now

If they make both of these, it's going to be hard to put the necessary pressure on.

I'm a great one for complaining about refs, but we've taken 17 FT's them 13. First half I had more ref gripes.

DAM , TIME GETTING THIN - -GOT TO MAKE that run , FAST. - -NOT GONNA GET ANY HELP FROM THE REFS - - JUST GOT TO FIND THAT LAST GEAR

@wissox its not about parity, its about fouls

lol Iowa State 8 three pointers 2nd half and 6 two pointres

We were +4 last 4

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

I'm a great one for complaining about refs, but we've taken 17 FT's them 13. First half I had more ref gripes.

Not every thing that matters can be counted,

That will do it

Dang. Costly Missed rebound

We needed that 3

No team has ever come back from 9 points.

Lol

Hopefully they enjoy their court storming

My tv is at least 45 seconds behind the radio

It was a pretty thin margin.

Difference in the game is the 3 pointers

Dang. That was a quick 5 the wrong way. Need to reverse it quickly.

Hunter should've helped

We dont shoot 3s or FTs well. Stretching out the game to eat a lead is our danger zone

Wow

3 possession game under 3 min. Low percentage, not zero but low.

Need to turn them over

UH OH

Ok!

bang. Finally Kev!

Kevinnnnnnnn

KEV

Wait. I thought Kevin was supposed to be on the bench. lol

great passing!

Yes!

Here come the Hawks, the might Blackhawks, er um Jayhawks!

Pressure and get the ball back!

Intentional

Dude. When there are no limitations there are no limits. Throwing everything at it now.

PLAY SOME d - - PLAY SOME d - - OH FORGOT ABOUT THE REFS

Let’s steal this like the good ol days

Box out

Lock down D!!!

Remember when Juan made the crazy shot to win 2 yrs ago?

EJ can dunk it as time expires. Its cool.

@Crimsonorblue22 Against who? I don't remember.

Isu

Why not challenge the shot even if it was nba range

just lucky

2 on the shot clock. Why weren't they all up in that guys face?

Fuck off man

Exactly @wissox

HOW IN THE HELL WAS THAT NOT A FOUL . - LIKE gURLEY SAID THE GUY TAKES TWO STEPS AND NOTHING CALLED

Fail and move on

Thing is we don't get our chance for payback. only time we play them this year

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

2 on the shot clock. Why weren't they all up in that guys face?

Furphy blew his assignment leaving KJ between two guys

We've lost to every team that we meet only once.

On to the next.

At least kev got out of his 3 point slump

Positive is this was winnable with mccullar playing for Iowa state

The team that wins this league will lose five games - lots to go yet

Teams seem go nuts when playing KU in their court

Did they hit 20 threes?

14-30

Nice comeback. We'll survive. We're all kind of in the same mindset on this team.

They definitely missed the travel before that 3. Went back and watched it. What a shame.

Hahaha Kevin messed up anyone that bet on ISU -4.5.

Good last 12 minutes.

The difference in the game is 3 point percentage, we are even or ahead in every other category. They hit 14 3s to our 7

Fine the crap out of them

It was a galliant comeback that just fell short.

you know this court stoming is taking away from your win - -act like you belong , been here before, takes away from what your team did -- makes you look like didn't think you would win - -your ranked for GOD's Sakes

Need Furphy going earlier. Kid can shoot.

They played a perfect half. Okay OSU and Houston both in Allen.

@wissox said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Nice comeback. We'll survive. We're all kind of in the same mindset on this team.

They definitely missed the travel before that 3. Went back and watched it. What a shame.

he took two steps, 100 % travel - -and of course no call

The comeback shows a lot of heart. I appreciate that. If that game is called more fairly (in the first half, particularly) or ISU is even a touch closer to their average from 3, we win.

We got 2 pts from bench today

@jayballer67 When they do its is far more humiliating. I like it when they storm the court. It shows they think they are inferior.

@dylans said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

@jayballer67 When they do its is far more humiliating. I like it when they storm the court. It shows they think they are inferior.

true and thing is they still are lol

Bench combines for 3 rebounds, 1 assists and 2 points. That’s not gonna cut it in this conference

Congrats ISU. You got your big dub of the year.

@AsadZ said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

We got 2 pts from bench today

our bench for sure is BAD will be our downfall in the Tourney

Jay is right. We dont have the bench to be a championship defensive team. Think about how we guarded Steph Curry on his last effort 3. Shot clock is down, gotta contest that shot even from NBA range. But we were gased mentally and physically and didn’t react

@AsadZ said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

We got 2 pts from bench today

Good point. This doesn't scale.

2 points from the bench and we don't defend the 3 very well. I'm surprised we only lost by 4 with the way Iowa St shot.

Jackson and Nick are the guys that have to play well for us off the bench to go far in March, and I'm not feeling too good about that right now. Still a lot of season left though.

Unless there are injuries, Houston is going to win the league with only 4 losses.

I’m not shocked or even really mad we lost this one but makes the other 2 road losses, one we led by 16 very costly. Houston is definitely in the drivers seat after today. But we know the road is tough in this conference and they could easily drop a few more.

OK , so West Virginia shoots 57 % from the three last week against us - - -today Iowa State that has shot 34.6 % for the year shoots 46.7

So what the hell is going on ? - - are we just not defending the three worth a dam or are these guys just playin out their ass, playing game like it's their NCAA Championship game. -Well for WV and Iowa State playing us is their NCAA title game

Think it's a combination of both, -- they are getting really lucky and we are defending worth a dam , we are just not use to seeing the guys struggle like this -- long time w have been in this position where our Bench just flat sucks

Tech with a comeback win in Norman and they take control of the conference

I can't recall a season with 3 court stormings

you know looking at the Box score , our starting five really didn't do that bad - - pretty balanced , y shot 45 % - - but Dickinson had 20 -Mccullar had 16 - - Furphy had 15 - - Adams had 13 - -and Juan had 9 - -BALANCED. - -I think just brings out two things happening -- poor really poor three point defense and NO BENCH - -NO BENCH AT ALL.- - we have just got to get something , some help from our Bench

Hopefully next year we won't have to go through this crap with our Bench, have some depth.

Iowa State Coach said Averages 4.5 three's a game makes 14- - -Ball Game

Coach just answered the question He said - - -We can't guard the ball. When the last time that's happened ? Coach says we are not a pressure team - -can't guard

@kjayhawks said in KU vs Cryclones Game Chat:

Tech with a comeback win in Norman and they take control of the conference

they are gonna lose more games for sure - -ONE LOSS for sure is not going to hold

It's going to be a long hard road to the post season. When we play tough defense like we did today we are basically in foul trouble sooner than later with no calvary in sight. No one can have an off night. What is the team to do? Lots of pressure on our top five who are as good as about anyone. The effort they gave today was great. I like these players and we might show them some love instead of shade.

Sequence at the end of the first half gives ISU 5 unanswered points:

We were up 1 and then down by 4 at the half.

And we lost by 4.

It is what it is.

Self on post game that our on ball defense is terrible but we don’t have the personnel to change it and I agree with him. I read a guy on Facebook commenting that only 2 of our players would start across the top half of the conference and I think I agree with that. This team doesn’t have the horses plain and simple imo. I just want to beat KSU don’t care about anything else. This team is prob about 3rd worst in the self era. Everytime we hit the court the opposing team is bigger faster and Stronger.

This team doesn't seem that bad to me. But it's thin and it has a couple of weaknesses that can be (and have been) exploited.

You can foul KJ all day and usually trade 2 points for 1. This has been done repeatedly.
You can target the freshmen who don't have the experience. This has been done.

Sure glad we have a football team

We have both and I love it. Basketball is still top 10 even after this loss. Football is top 25. That's awesome. Both haven't reached their ceiling.

The defense is bad at this point. Furphy and Jackson can't guard statues, Dickinson's knee has further limited his already limited mobility on that end. This is causing a significant drop in defense from Harris, McCullar, and Adams as well because we know those three range from very good to elite defenders.

This team is really missing Arterio Morris right now. I'm not saying that KU screwed up by kicking him off the team because Morris absolutely deserved that for his actions, but his skill set is desperately missing from this team this season. His defense was up there with Adams and KU would be a top 10 defense with him.

He was also the guy that could've gone and gotten his shot whenever he wanted to help with spacing on the floor. He also would've allowed Elmarko to play off the bench from the start and taken a lot of pressure off of him early. KU probably has better bench production as well with that rotation instead of what we have now.

Self's got at least two more roster spots he can fill next season so getting a high level, playmaker guard should be the top priority in the portal this offseason.

I honestly think we need to scrap the switching on defense. It led to easy layups and dunks when Juan was switching to a bigger guy and the big guys gave up several 3s to guards. This isn’t working with this group.

@kjayhawks I dont know the answer to that, but I was noticing the same thing.

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It's frustrating, but the WVU and UCF games were more frustrating and worse losses. Iowa State is ranked and tough to beat in Ames.

The starters need to get healthy and the bench needs to keep improving.

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Really hoping we’re using up all our bad luck now and saving the good luck for later.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Essentially roster construction yet again sucked this year and we don’t have dynamic guards…….

@kjayhawks My fear is that Hunter is the real problem. He is slow and often doesn’t appear to try real hard on ball screens. One of those last possessions where it looked like Furphy lost his man and recovered super late, in my opinion it was more a lack of communication and effort from Hunter on how they were handling that screen.

But yeah. The switching seems bad. We get torched because at this point everyone knows it’s coming and has a plan for how to deal with it. They either work to get the matchup they want and gone one one (wish we had ANYONE that could take advantage of a bad matchup on the other end) or they work to get Hunter involved in off ball screens where he either gets lost or just can’t get to the spot he needs to to support the guy getting screened.

Usually Bill has some wrinkles and I don’t think we’ve really seen any yet. He’s likely been saving them for what he thinks are the tougher teams but the record now means every game is huge.

On another note, anyone noticed a lack of moving screens being called? And not like disproportionally or anything but just in general. I feel like screeners are getting away with murder this year. KJ had to literally hockey check a guy to get it called today.

@kuballin10 sucked is an overstatement. Too dependent on Morris and Hunter. This was more indicative of the lingering problems with the roster from the previous year.

Bobby, Udeh, Zuby, Cuffe and MJ all not only giving us at least 1 good year was a big problem, much moreso than the transfers.

We cant miss on that many freshman and not have a multiyear hole.

happy with next year recruits so far? Seems like the freshman will be more athletic than we have had in a long time. Maybe we wont need a perfect pull from the portal to have a well rounded roster.

@benshawks08 spot on with the moving screens, like the refs were told to slow down on those calls. I don’t mind it when it’s obvious but it was getting pretty egregious at times over the last few years.

I agree that Hunter seems to be incapable of lateral movement at this time. Some if it maybe his knee issues, oddly enough the defense looked to be this teams strong suit early in the season. We just look so tired on that end of the floor. Very little movement, no communication and lack of awareness consistently.

I think this team would be a great group to run a 1-3-1 match up zone or a triangle and 2 zone. I think switching everything is gimmicky as hell and for teams that are incapable playing solid man to man defense. I think this team is similar in a lot of ways to the 2012 national runner ups. That team late in the season Self ran a triangle and 2 often. It worked very well for that group. Self is a great coach but some times him being set in his ways hurts us. He has to be able to adapt to what he has and his refusal to has hurt some good teams here.

We played them close. Better than I expected.

We don't need points off the bench. We just need them to not give up points.

I feel like we deserve a B for execution today. Might have turned to an A had our starters not been so exhausted.

We know our weaknesses:

1. Lack of depth
2. Playing soft (partially because of depth)
3. Need 1 guy who can go get his own shot (besides Kevin)
4. Lack of on-court leadership

It's the #2 that is going to end our season early this year... and a big part of that is lack of depth. We have a hard time guarding the trey line. A lot of that is because of how we guard. We play too much weakside D. That opens the perimeter for someone wide-open. We should just play it up straight and make each man responsible for guarding. I'm afraid it's Self trying to prevent foul trouble. Everything about how we play now is to compensate for having little bench. Just like... now... we live on defensive switches. We don't want to fight through screens to guard. It so isn't a typical Self team. We switch on everything. Saving energy, and maybe a few fouls, though we are getting murdered on the switches. It's painful watching other teams methodically working us over (like what we used to do).

At this point in the season... I like Houston to take our conference. The difference is Shead. Big strong scrappy PG who shows definite leadership... can also go get his shot whenever needed. They molested the purple kitties today.

I've lowered my expectations this year... just hoping we win-out at home, beat the purple kitties, and earn our ticket to the big dance to keep our streak alive. Beyond that... I will take it as a huge plus.

Never thought I would be disappointed in being the #1 assist team in the nation! It just proves we don't have players that can create for themselves. Pretty much just Kevin! Though I see Johnny taking on more as the season progresses!

I hope we get shot down in polls. We should. Maybe it gives us a chip and it would be nice to fly below radar for a change! It didn't even seem like the ISU fans were as jacked up as in past games there. I know they expected this win, and I'm sure by more points than 4.

Holy cow! Just looked at the stat sheet. Parker -13 on +/- in 5 minutes! Actually... he scored a basket and an offensive rebound. I'm thinking he's so far negative because he replaces Hunter. Just shows us how valuable it is to have Hunter on the floor, even though his +/- was 0!

I don’t think there is any shame in losing a tight game to a ranked ISU team on the road. The thing that worries me going forward is 9/10 the team that is cutting down the nets has 2 things. Elite athletic NBA guards and great coaching. We don’t have elite NBA guards IMO at the moment. Kevin I think will get drafted but I highly doubt it’s first round. Juan as much as he can be a good player likely never steps foot on an NBA court.

Kev last 2 games 10-35 FG. He's gotta figure it out.

@BeddieKU23 ya I was gonna say he turned into a volume shooter in a bad way. If it takes you 25 shots to get 20 points, that’s not efficient in the slightest.

@BeddieKU23 I'd really hoped he'd turned a corner as a scorer after his hot start. But apparently that was a hot start rather than a legitimate change in who he is as a shooter. I do think he's continued to be aggressive and has taken on the toughest role as being the ONLY guy that can drive to score or try to go get a bucket, but yeah, more efficiency would be great especially because I don't think we can count on Furphy to maintain the level he's played at the last several games.

But really, scoring hasn't been the big issue the last several games. This team is getting picked apart on D. It feels very easy for the other team to score at times. Run ball screens until either Johnny, Nick, or Hunter are guarding you, then drive or step back. If that doesn't work, make two passes and someone will be open because the help Juan, KJ, and Kev are trying to provide to the weak links.

I imagine Jay Wright was chuckling all game watching Iowa State do to Self what he did. There will be adjustments and wrinkles thrown in especially against teams like Houston and Baylor if I had to guess but we let too many BAD shooters feel so comfortable that they can heat up and make 3s in bunches. Hopefully the law of averages will help this team later in the season as we've already had our share of fluky performances shooting wise from teams who don't usually light it up from out there.

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I hope it's just a bad week of shooting. We demand a high level of play out of him because he took on the role and wants it. When you don't produce it impacts the team. Winning on the road against a Top 25 team is really difficult when your best player(s) don't play their best. I don't think Hunter or Kev has played anywhere near their best in weeks. Furphy has masked a lot of issues on offense. How we get Hunter/Kev rolling is something that needs to be addressed.

No doubt the defense is a mess. The switching 1-4 isn't working.

I'm no expert, but it seems like a switching defense is an 'advanced' or 'next level' defense and therefore requires experienced players.

Experience comes from playing against a variety of teams in a variety of situations. There are at least 2 players with less than 1 year of experience (at KU, and sometimes, guys with less than a year at the college level) on the floor at all times. Guys are getting their experience before our eyes.

It's hard, but worth the effort and investment because it can separate teams in March.

Coach Self is doing what he must now, to best prepare the team so they can win key games later. It sometimes sucks to see the struggle, but I feel like I've seen this before... and it's turned out pretty good more times than not.

@bskeet This is good perspective. For how long was this board obsessed with Self focusing more on winning each individual game than preparing the team for success in March? Maybe this is actually some growth there. Then again you have the BIG minutes for the starters really piling up. But he even tried to manage that v ISU too with lots of subs early.

I can't tell during the game, but are they communicating with one another on the court about switching? I would think if they are saying it out loud that it makes it less likely that there is an open player left to make an open shot. It is difficult to switch in-game guarding a 3-5 and then a 1-2 with different heights and speeds. Why don't they switch it up on defense with different looks with zone or a box and 1 or triangle and 2? I can understand why they don't do man to man because of the minutes they are playing, but I thought that the coaches have them do conditioning and that is what 'hell week" is for. They seem to get tired out more quickly, but that could be due to parity with the portal. The only time I saw them turned up to full capacity was when we played Connecticut. That is what I am accustomed to seeing with KU, but not this team. It could also be related to the physicality of the game. I don't remember college basketball being this aggressive with respect to contact except in the past 10-15 years and it seems like it is getting more and more physical. It is getting to the point that I think it should be renamed basketbrawl. I understand I may have unrealistic expectations. If they are doing the best they can, then I applaud them, but I have a gut feeling that that is not the case.

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I can't tell during the game, but are they communicating with one another on the court about switching? I would think if they are saying it out loud that it makes it less likely that there is an open player left to make an open shot. It is difficult to switch in-game guarding a 3-5 and then a 1-2 with different heights and speeds. Why don't they switch it up on defense with different looks with zone or a box and 1 or triangle and 2? I can understand why they don't do man to man because of the minutes they are playing, but I thought that the coaches have them do conditioning and that is what 'hell week" is for. They seem to get tired out more quickly, but that could be due to parity with the portal. The only time I saw them turned up to full capacity was when we played Connecticut. That is what I am accustomed to seeing with KU, but not this team. It could also be related to the physicality of the game. I don't remember college basketball being this aggressive with respect to contact except in the past 10-15 years and it seems like it is getting more and more physical. It is getting to the point that I think it should be renamed basketbrawl. I understand I may have unrealistic expectations. If they are doing the best they can, then I applaud them, but I have a gut feeling that that is not the case.

The way teams are shooting the 3 against KU , I don't think trying to play zone would be a very good idea. - -I understand these teams are just shooting over their heads when playing us, because WV was like a 32 % three point shooting team when we played they shot- - -57 % against us. - -Same with ISU a 34 % three point shooting team and what did they shoot -- like 41 % ?

I'm not sure who ever it was that got the joke started way back when or whatever, BUT if anyone who has EVER played the game of Basketball can sit there and say to your face that Basketball is a Non Contact sport - -ROFLMAO - I'll call BS right to their face. Having played for years of Basketball in School , Basketball is one of the most physical sports there is. You don't have near the protection that other sports have. -True they now wear mouth pieces - -well some do anyways , and yet basically mouth pieces and jocks is it - -that's all you got and a jock isn't really help protecting against injury - very , very physical game. I've seen broken noses - - -Teeth knocked out - - broken eye sockets - -dis located fingers - -so ya.

Then I agree maybe these guys haven't been getting after it like they should or can, I remember hearing how KU was suppose to have one of the best defensive teams in the Nation - - Juan , Kevin , & KJ.
I'll tell you this - - - true they may not have gotten after it defensively like they should or can BUT mark it down you can guarantee come Saturday against Houston -you can dam well bet they will be able to tell you what brand name Jocks the Houston players are wearing - -it is going to be an absolute war -- the Phog will be insane, Hoston hasn't played in front of right at 16,000 mad dogs in the Phog - -experiencing the Phog, many of good teams have come in there pretty dam cocky and walked out like a pack of whimpering puppies - -It is going to be ridiculous in there , mark it down. Tell the Wife , Brother , Sister , Son , Daughter , the cat , the dog - - -Look out cause there is a PHOG WARNING on the HORIZON - -ROCK CHALK BABY

I understand that there is potential for a lot of contact, but what used to be fouls are not called as fouls anymore. I have played basketball and had busted lips and split my chin open requiring stitches, so I know the physicality, but it seems almost too physical to the point that players are being put in harm's way.