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And the hits just keep comin

I'd much rather sit McCullar now and let him get healthy than play him and have him play like shit again like he did against KSU.

Yeah his knee clearly isn't right. Just get him healthy for March.

Timberlake starting, NOT Elmarko.

Heard Jamari is out too

Jamari got the flu Coach just said. - -Hell listening to him not even sure if he will play Monday. -Coach was ask if Kevin just be listed day to day , his response was I have no idea

Next man up!

LFG #ROCKCHALK

Dog days of February it feels like. Teams trying to get right for the stretch drive.

Jamari has the flu

I'm listening to Brian Hanni and Gurley do intros

7 scholarship players tonight 😳

Haha, ESPN says our game is on ESPNews so I turn there and it's James Madison and Akron, which is there because ESPN2 is running over. So essentially ESPN thinks that game is bigger than our game. They might be right!

@wissox me too

Fouls on 3 point shooters I like.

Hunt had diamond earrings on during game day!!

Is Braun available?

@wissox i hope so

Kj with a couple of nice bunnies

DaTre

Alright Alright Alright

Kj nice feed, we do like playing at home

Scott Drew, getting run out of AFH, death, taxes

Very Nice KJ

Said furphy was sick all week, didn't practice til Fri. Wonder if that didn't bother his game mon.

We should have worn these clown unis at KState when we played like clowns

Nice 3 Juan!

Good start

Does isu play anybody good at away places?

Yet another steal, nice

And 1

And one more!

Big hunt!

And one more!!

this the game thread?

Yes dan

I thought I saw CB in the stands

Kj on fire

KJ is killing that 9 footer

Down goes Kentucky

Maybe should KJ should pretend he's shooting a floater when he goes to the line

Good Kentucky lost, another chance to gain a game on them in the most wins race.

Very good intensity on the defensive end

🦅👀

Defense is locked in so far

I still like the sunflower uni's

the guys busting their ass off - -really hustling

@DanR 3's next yr! That was a pretty one!🫶

@stoptheflop said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

I still like the sunflower uni's

shorts get shorter every year

@stoptheflop it's for Black History Month. Honoring Stallworth

@stoptheflop they're meaningful, better than lavender!

8 mins in and Johnny hasn't launched one yet( except for the foul)

This is the defense I thought we were capable of early in the season

Baylor can barely run down the floor without falling down, so I'll give half of their problems to KU D!

She's cool!💙❤️🌾🏀

Nick the Brick needs to start making those

Maybe nick should shoot a 2. He clearly can't make 3s

Boo!

Oops

got a little ball along with the arm

Well at least Kentucky lost. That always makes the day better

Lil late

Hunt with a nice long 3

Both Furphy and Timberlake need to put in on the floor and drive when they are being played tight on the arc...

@stoptheflop When I called them clown unis earlier I didn't realize I was insulting the entire state of Kansas! really didn't inspect them too closely to see what they were!

Hunter got fouled

Hunt missing 2 3s wisely went back under the basket and feasts

Hunter was held

Timeout was needed. Guys are gassed already

I don’t mind hunter stepping out but gotta little trigger happy

to be fair, Hunter's last three was in and out. He's killing it inside though, so just take the easy 2s

@BeddieKU23 our conditioning is laughable at this point in season. Guys gassed 12 minutes into a game is not a good look in February.

Jank may be needed

Could find a hawk to walk with, Bilas?

Marko's defense has been solid lately

Made KU look good!

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Marko's defense has been solid lately

My bad

No EJ

Juan 2 missed layups last one wide open. I guess just shoot the 3s

dumb stretch the past 5 minutes

Unacceptable

Stupid T Bill

Wow, our bench may have just gotten shorter for a while.

OK, furph, do that more!

Unbelievable is a T? Touchy refs

Nick just jogging to the rim instead of boxing out his man, who gets the rebound

Juando driving has not been great so far

Nick is bad and Harris can’t make a layup. Gonna turn a blowout into a tight game if that doesn’t change.

Harris hasn't had a free throw

Pounce on the typo

Put Jamari in take Nick out

Jamari out flu

put jank in for Nick

@dylans said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Jamari out flu

Put me in then

Nick and Elmarko a disaster so far.

Whistles are already too much

I'm 12 blocks away and have only had a couple beers, put me in.

This is why people get mad at Juando, multiple missed bunnies and was outta position on defense.

Timberlake is such a terrible athlete can't win a single loose ball

I think Nick needs to get his eyes checked. Seriously. Ball bounces off his face at least once a game.

@rcjhdraft he looks like me at the YMCA, good only at the YMCA lol

Wow, loved the cool fly by of AFH and the dorms to the west!

I scored 2 points in a college game once, I might be able to contribute but I'm kind of far away.

Elmarko has inexplicable mistakes but he's probably here for the future and his ceiling is higher I'd probably ride with him

Bill doesn’t look happy

Flop #2

Put Dan in I'm tired of this

Getting ugly fast

Why are we forcing it inside?

KJ needs to step up. He has spurts where he plays well on offense, then he disappears for 10-12 min

Furphy seems to have hit the freshman wall and lost his shot. Hope he finds it quickly.

Furphy needs to start making those 3s

Gonna be a long few weeks folks

Wow bad turn there, we look exhausted in the first half yet again.

A couple guys need to step up in a hurry.

At the beginning of the game we kind of expected ugly don't forget. Very shallow team today, hopped out to a nice start, which gave us hope, but it's limp into halftime right now and hope to come out strong in the 2nd half.

Not sure how you can overturn it on replay. Too close to overturn

Well if there is a recipe for us losing at home, this lineup might be an ingredient. Hope not tho

hell of a block IMO

The bench and Kevin's spot need to make up the missing eighteen. Zero so far.

elmarko has to drive that

Wanna be 3 point shooters

Parker!

Nice

Sweet

Good

thought that was going in. Good play

Damn furph was nervous there

If we could hit a open 3 we’d be up 15 , about 6 wide open ones and we bricked all of them

Josh Jackson birthday today

Marcus got traded to Spurs with devonte

Wow never seen a team try to prevent the 2 for 1 by holding the ball for 5 seconds before inbounding. Baylor did that.

@RockChalkinTexas Josh Jackson is a lowlife.

2-11 from 3, Juan missed two layups, and we were getting killed on the boards the latter part of the half, but still up 6...

Reset. Time to regroup.

Furph needs to start making 3s, tho he is doing everything else pretty well. DJ needs to flash us some of the old brilliance. Bill needs to stop getting technicals. Hunt needs to stay close to the basket and not foul. Someone, anyone, on the bench needs to look like they belong on the floor. Any of these and we should win.

Really need Timberlake and Jackson to give us something, anything...

That UCF loss is looking pretty bad with how they’re playing

@StLJhawk said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Furph needs to start making 3s, tho he is doing everything else pretty well. DJ needs to flash us some of the old brilliance. Bill needs to stop getting technicals. Hunt needs to stay close to the basket and not foul. Someone, anyone, on the bench needs to look like they belong on the floor. Any of these and we should win.

The timing of some of these techs has been absolutely brutal. The Iowa state one swung the game end of first half

We aren't very good at drawing fouls and getting to the line. Furphy is 6-6. Rest of team has 1 FTA - Hunter, who missed. Baylor has 2 guys with 12 FTAs...

@rcjhdraft yes, and unexpected from a HOF coach, wonder what the deal is?

2 guys I never get mad at on this team, KJ and Furphy. Both play theirs asses off everytime they hit the court

I thought the T was on ElMarko

Radio says T was on KU bench.

I'm afraid the guys are going to come out with dead legs this 2nd half

@wissox said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Radio says T was on KU bench.

Pretty soft if true

I thought the T was because Bill said “unbelievable “ which seems really lame

They said in the game that the T was on Self. If it was for BS saying “unbelievable” that is extremely soft.

@rcjhdraft The problem with live chatting and listening to radio while watching TV is I hardly ever know what's going on because I have too much going on, so I really didn't see the foul or why the T was called. Radio did say it was a pretty thin skinned referee tech.

Wonder if there was other stuff leading up to the T we didn’t hear?

Yeah, I'm guess the "unbelievable" was a few seconds after Self got the T for dropping a few F bombs.

Crowd needs to come alive

@DanR that’s my guess too

Furph!

Soft foul from KJ

Another DJ bunny miss, ouch

Predictable turnover we always overthrow those full court passes

JEEZ

HUNTER, WTF

Another hunt bunny miss and an open 3 for them, ouch

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO MISS SO MANY 1 & 2 FT EASY BUNNY SHOT/LAYUPS

hunter makes those most of the time (and makes shots I think he'll miss for sure) so I'll cut him some slack

we must be shooting about 40% since the first 10 minutes

Better wake up here

Looks like coach had a word with Juando

Dunk the damn ball

Ack, 3rd hunt bunny miss

@StLJhawk the missed wide open 3s and bunnies are at about 15 right now. The only reason it’s a contest

We’re lucky they’ve turned it over 14 times or we’d be in serious trouble

Does HD have a dislocated finger or something these misses are crazy

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Dunk the damn ball

Is he even capable f doing that - -KJ needs to show him how to finish, couldn't ask for better positioning /seal

If somebody gets even semi-hot on either team, it probably sways this game. Hope it’s us!

way to Be aggressive EJ

An FT and a bench point, nice

KJ

Big Dave move there by KJ

Kj had his 15 min quiet time, now let’s see him go

Really poor effort on the TO and then getting back by Jackson...

Good foul, ElMarko

DJ for 3 finally!!

What???

Another 3 and from the bench, finally!

AFH pulled that shot in for Nick

Bench has like 7 points, I think everyone in this building was like go in!!

There we go

Atta Boy Nick - -mercy why can't he be like that a little more - -Huge shot

Need to add to it!!

I think I've read corner threes are more accurate overall than any other spot on the floor.

@wissox love the corner shot, I hit 37 in a row in practice once.

I always preferred the wing spot or top of the key when shooting 3's. Maybe that's why I didn't go pro

That three by Nick is the only positive stat on the box score for Nick. zeros across the line except for TO's and fouls.

Furphy disruptive on D today. 5 steals it says.

good foul nick

Wow can't believe elmarko got away with that

shooting from his foot

Not a shooting foul. Radio guys going nuts.

This is nick's good five minutes this month

He is athletic

17 turnovers, whew

Good D guys

Good call🙂

Great D. Unlucky bounces on missed bricks

Make that 18

Wow, didn't look at score. Not realizing we're up 10

KJ is 5/5; I sure wish he would shoot more

Such a nice move

That would have been a top 5 play

Anyone remember Selden dunking against these guys?

And Thomas Robinson at home

Hunt finding the bunnies again

Big man is back

Who needs McCullar

We need someone to rebound the ball. Would be up by 20...

Kev needed a day off

Timber finally getting hot

nick couldve wouldve shoulve

Never thought I’d be so excited for a kid to shoot 2/6 from 3 but go Timberlake lol

his last 3 looked good, until it didn’t

Bilas thinks Nick's confidence maybe starting to come back around.- -What do we think ?

At least we are gaming and keeping up the D

Sure hope so, what a difference that would make

We getting spanked on the glass 33-18

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

We getting spanked on the glass 33-18

2 offensive rebounds

Anyone watching the Super Bore tomorrow night?

They got 5 rebounds on one possession. Missing long bouncing bricks

@wissox said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Anyone watching the Super Bore tomorrow night?

Oops, I meant Bowl :)

@wissox said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@wissox said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Anyone watching the Super Bore tomorrow night?

Oops, I meant Bowl :)

Yes, will you?

We have a 19-7 TO advantage. Would think we would be up 20+ with that differential. Problem is they are getting so many second and third chances and getting to the FT a lot more...

19 Turnovers, that is some good D

We got 15 steals they have 5

@BeddieKU23 I will eventually. I always watch the phoenix golf thing, need a break from TV and start watching around 2nd quarter. No reason to watch the whole game really!

Shoulda been our ball.

@wissox I can't wait!

OH BOY

Wow - bad last minute...

Dang, that lead got small quick

take nick out he's done

2 quick shots we didn’t need

@DanR He made two and it went to his head.

Seems like KJ should be shooting more

@RockChalkinTexas And Nick less?

They've doubled up on us on RBs - 36-18. 10-2 on ORBs...

Juan!

@DCHawker Is that bad?

good job, Juando

Not great

ouch

Not sure why refs didn't rule that out of bounds on DaJuans shot.

Well that was an ugly possession

And the hits just keep comin

Well now DOWN JUAN

Glad LJ Cryer transferred to Houston or this could be ugly!

Rub some dirt on it DaJuan! We need you!

Gotta dig deep guys

We are now know as the Kansas Mash--instead of KU Jay Hawks

This is one of our lowest assist rate games. 11 on 23 made shots. Baylor actually 12 assists on 19 made shots...

KJ is 6-6 today shooting.

He'll be fine

ElMarko, your table is ready

Big D

Box out please.

Nick stepping up

Shoot I jinxed KJ

Lucky no foul on Elmarko. Home vs Road

Use clock

we dont need split screen

MISS IT

Throwing bricks right and left

@DanR You don't like seeing DaJuan walking?

johnny, come on, man. Doing everything else so well.

@DanR said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

johnny, come on, man. Doing everything else so well.

Slump will keep him in college where he belongs.

Juando probably faked that ankle roll. Got them where he wants them.

We have possession

i still feel good about this game because all the games we lost, Hunter's bangs were soaked with sweat.

Put Kevin in for 2 mins

Cmon guys

run a damn play

timberlake with a couple big boards to go with some big bricks

BS

Oh what the hockey puck

don't say it, Bill

Def do not get a T

I hope they don't review that

What a shitty half from HD

🙌KJ

Oh my

KJ 👏

Lucky to get that call there.

I didn’t see a foul but I’ll take it

That was a lucky break think KJ was on the back there

KJ was pushed

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

That was a lucky break think KJ was on the back there

Effort created a lucky break. I’m sick of all the ball watching!

We have 17 steals.

Little bit worried about Juan

Damn it nick

Wow Nick creating drama.

Whew

Make the FT please

At least he got a board

Here you go Nick. Be a hero

Terrible defense. Nick blew it twice!!! Damn he sucks. Better to be lucky than good in this instance.

Dang we got lucky, but good guys win again

I'll take it I guess

Ha luck

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

I'll take it I guess

😂 yup

Sucky win, but I'll take it.

25 boards? Survived whew.

Dodging bullets like Neo!!

Did Timberlake just burn all the goodwill he created in that last minute

For how much I liked nicks game boy he tried his best to give it away by leaving the shooter and bricking the free ones

Nick shoots like he is the best option. Someone needs to open his eyes to what a good shot is. 3/4 a season on the bench hasn’t done it, so I’m not sure what will.

Rock Chalk. Need a win Monday at Tech.

He had some good defensive plays and rebounds, but that late turnover, leaving the shooter, and missing the front end were UGGGGGHLY

@DanR said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Rock Chalk. Need a win Monday at Tech.

Quick turn around on Harris’ bum ankle. Has me concerned.

Rest up for #Chiefs tomorrow!

Needed a win but it was NOT pretty!

Baylor maybe should have prayed before the game?

Well we won. - Question now becomes, how much will Juan's ankle swell, we he be able to play Monday -- if he does probably won't be 100 %- -these Saturday Mondays is crap

@dylans said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@DanR said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Rock Chalk. Need a win Monday at Tech.

Quick turn around on Harris’ bum ankle. Has me concerned.

That and it’s on the road. 2-4 so far. Would like to see some improvement there, but the walking wounded…

But to beat Baylor w/out Kevin and Mari and furph being sick all week, whew! 🥰

@RockChalkinTexas said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Rest up for #Chiefs tomorrow!

Needed a win but it was NOT pretty!

ya the end wasn't - -but got to give th guys some credit. - -7 players long extended minutes play gritty/tough and sure tried. last part was ugly but a win is a win at this point - -take them however we can

@DanR Pretty decent win I think when we play without two guys, one the leading scorer in the league.

Kansas gets all the calls they say. Not tonight. Baylor shot more FT's. Foul #'s were even I think. Bill Self is a great coach. Scott Drew is too.

I think drew has it in his head he can't win here!

@DanR If I know Scott Drew they did pray, but if I know Scott Drew he didn't pray that they'd win either.

@Crimsonorblue22 I think he has more losses in the building than Self, believe he is 1-20

The chances of us winning without Juan and Kevin have to minuscule

Sure sounds like were gonna be without McCullar and quite possibly Juan both Monday - - Geez- -McCullar hasn't practiced so sure sounds like he is out. - Then how much is Juans ankle gonna swell up in the next 48 hours - -we are so beat up

Bill is extremely unhappy with the mental errors it sounds.

I’m thinking maybe Nick had high bball iq at the end there. Way harder to make a wide open clutch shot than a guarded one. Give them all the time in the world to think about it. This is also why Nick takes every guarded 3 he can. Knows instinctively they are better shots.

Ugly win, but it's a win. KU only scored 41 points over the last 30 minutes of the game.

-17 in rebounds, only 11 assists on 24 made FG's, Elmarko played 21 minutes and did not attempt a shot officially and Parker took 2 FG's in 8 minutes. 2 FG's attempts in 29 minutes from the bench is just terrible.

Also, why did KU not adjust to the drive and kick Baylor ran ad nauseum tonight? KU was lucky Baylor was shooting like garbage tonight too.

@Texas-Hawk-10 this team just looks ugly 90% of the time at this point. Tonight is a little bit different in terms of missing our leading scorer and I’m glad we won a gutsy performance. But my gosh you are a 100% correct this maybe the worst bench in the Self era. 2019 and 2012 come to mind but I think this worse. I know people compare this team to the 19 team a fair amount but I think this team would destroy that team by a wide margin.

I really hope we can go undefeated at home this season, feels like it’s been way too long since that happened. I believe we have 3 games left against Texas, BYU and KSU. We have definitely already played our toughest home games on paper but we all know how this team loves to play down to competition. Oddly enough I think that 2019 team was the last to go unbeaten in the Phog.

Self is really unhappy with Timberlake. Who’s next up after El Marko? Should Jank get some run?

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@Texas-Hawk-10 this team just looks ugly 90% of the time at this point. Tonight is a little bit different in terms of missing our leading scorer and I’m glad we won a gutsy performance. But my gosh you are a 100% correct this maybe the worst bench in the Self era. 2019 and 2012 come to mind but I think this worse. I know people compare this team to the 19 team a fair amount but I think this team would destroy that team by a wide margin.

2019 was a very young team. Dotson, Grimes, Agbaji, and McCormack were all freshmen that season, Marcus Garrett was a sophomore, and Dedric Lawson was a first year player for Self. Lagerald Vick was the only upper classmam in tge rotation that season that came up theough Self's system. That team also had more depth than this team because they had to deal with Doke's injury and Vick getting kicked off the team. That team had Ochai Agbaji redshirting to start the year. That team also had the better bench by far because there was at least some production on a nightly basis.

@Gorilla72 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Self is really unhappy with Timberlake. Who’s next up after El Marko? Should Jank get some run?

There's a reason Timberlake was at Towson and not a high major. KU is still going to need another shooter next season, and it would be preferable if that shooter came from another high major program where his shooting stats should translate pretty well.

@Gorilla72 He was mad at Nick for having too quick of a trigger after his first 3 make. In the inside access Self was saying move the ball for 20 seconds. He also was the guy that gave up multiple corner 3s, we were fortunate they missed the last 2. He left his man and over helped on the first and didn’t switch on the second attempt. Both silly mistakes this far into the season as a senior. Elmarko I thought was decent defensively tonight, he was credited with 4 steals tho a few of them the ball got knocked to him luckily. But gosh his offense numbers are like he wasn’t on the floor. In 21 minutes he had zero shot attempts and finished with 1 assist and 1 point. That’s unacceptable imo. I honestly am wondering if Jank shouldn’t see some minutes here with how unproductive our guards are off the bench. Hard to believe he could be any worse on the average night.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t remember that team having much of a bench at all with KJ Lawson, a D3 caliber player getting minutes. Vick was the best player on that team and Doke when he was healthy. That could’ve been a solid group had Vick not gone nuts and Doke gotten hurt. Those two things killed the depth.

Short handed victory! Over a good team no less. Hard to complain about that. Go Hawks!

Coincidence that we’ve beaten two top teams without McCullar?

Seems like teams are game planning for Furphy now. He’ll need to adjust and figure out how to get open, or drive the lane more.

Wish we had another option besides Nick. 3 mistakes in the last 14 seconds and lucky they didn't cost them. Shouldn't be in this situation with him. You wouldn't know he's been in College this long with the kind of mental errors that he continues to make

@BeddieKU23 youve put it as nicely as possible.

Vick could just take off and fly like no other, but I think partially that was because he was high most of the time.

@approxinfinity

I really did try. Rewrote several times. You have Kev out, Juan get injured and then you have a 6th year guy that should just get it, but he doesn't

@wissox

Supreme enigma here for sure. Sucks how his tenure ended

I see ESPN scheduled another loss for Monday. Thanks

@BeddieKU23 TT is a ranked team. We'll be fine.

If we were playing Mississippi Valley State we'd be screwed.

@nuleafjhawk

Appreciate your optimistic view. So much going against us tomm

Any news on Juan? I feel like Kevin will be out tomorrow no matter what. I hate to say it but the ball movement is better without Kevin, think he was dribbling too much and trying for hero ball far too often.

@kjayhawks

Self said after he didn't know but that he definitely did something to it good. Tough kid so we shall see

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t remember that team having much of a bench at all with KJ Lawson, a D3 caliber player getting minutes. Vick was the best player on that team and Doke when he was healthy. That could’ve been a solid group had Vick not gone nuts and Doke gotten hurt. Those two things killed the depth.

That season was weird because KU had so many different starting line ups due to various issues. Marcus Garrett did come off the bench for most of the season. David McCormack came off the bench most of the season. Mitch Lightfoot and Charlie Moore were also main bench players.

I'm not going to claim that bench was among Self's best, but it was better and deeper than this season's bench.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Ya that team looked strong early on when everyone was healthy mentally and physically. Won the NIT vs Tennessee and Vick was a projected lottery pick. The injuries and Grimes, Vick flat out quitting on the team half way thru the season. I remember Charlie having some good games.

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Any news on Juan? I feel like Kevin will be out tomorrow no matter what. I hate to say it but the ball movement is better without Kevin, think he was dribbling too much and trying for hero ball far too often.

I am expecting Juan to be out. Nothing announced yet.

@BShark gut feeling?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@BShark gut feeling?

Early intel. Not sure he even traveled with the team. Was a pretty bad injury. Surprised he went back in. He broke some panels when he punched a video board.

Thankfully after tomorrow night KU has like 1 game in the next couple weeks.

@BShark 🤬

@Crimsonorblue22 Hope he is able to play somehow. TOUGH kid.

If without Juan we are talking Elmarko handling the ball with Timberlake and walk-ons. Doesn't get any worse then this

@BeddieKU23 why not jamari?

@approxinfinity

If he's back yeah. Not good still.

Kevin and Jamari OUT. Juan playing.

Come to find out Johnny only practiced one day last week before Saturdays game because of being sick also. - -If we can get him going ngain tonight be good -- -Basically be the good 4 again just like it was before we established as the 5th guy - -not gonna be easy for sure - - kind of sucks

Juan punched a video board?

@Gorilla72 During the game, he hobbled to the out of bounds area after trying to shoot a reverse layup and when he sat down, he hit it with the side of the hand. It was not a full out punch.

Self said today Kev practiced a bit yesterday and would hopefully practice today and be available to play Saturday. Jamari as well.

@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Self said today Kev practiced a bit yesterday and would hopefully practice today and be available to play Saturday. Jamari as well.

fingers crossed

Kev hasn't done anything this week. Might not play Saturday. Gonna be an issue regardless for the rest of the season. With that, we can put a cork in the ceiling of this team if he's not going to be healthy enough week to week

@BeddieKU23 Id rest him Saturday, I honestly think we can beat Texas without him. Heck I’d rest him til the NCAA at this point if it helps him. We are pretty much out of the big 12 at this point anyway. I’m honestly shocked it still seems to be bothering him if it actually is a bruised knee. I’ve done that twice before it is painful and uncomfortable but usually isn’t a long term injury. Obviously there is certain severities of it but this one is one of the most lingering ones I’ve seen or heard of. Worried me it could be something more severe that they are hiding.

When HCBS said that Kevin tweaked it against OU, that sounded like something other than just a bruise.

@COHawk said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

When HCBS said that Kevin tweaked it against OU, that sounded like something other than just a bruise.

Definitely don't underestimate a bone bruise. Someone ended up missing an entire NBA season over one, I think last year.

He looked like he was in a very bad way by the end of the OU game unfortunately.

Kevin is able to function at a level higher than 99% of everyone, just not the level required of a collegiate basketball star. Pain limits function at some point no matter how tough you are.

I know a gal who’s femur punched thru her pelvis. She was mowing the yard a few weeks after surgery. Toughest human I know. She’s all of 5ft tall and right around 60.

@BShark

And Self said his injury is one that won't heal 100% until rest and recovery allows him to work on rehabbing it back.

Unfortunately sitting out games and practices doesn't seem like it's going to fix it, it's only going to allow him to keep limping along.

There's a lot to say here but not worth it

@BeddieKU23 yep that’s what I’m saying keep him off it and let’s win our home games, whatever happens on the road doesn’t matter

@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@BeddieKU23 yep that’s what I’m saying keep him off it and let’s win our home games, whatever happens on the road doesn’t matter

We shall see but winning any of these last 5 games if Kev isn't able to play is going to be very difficult, home or not. Don't see how we can put an optimistic hat on at this point which sucks because the week off was supposed to help everyone. Sucks

Doesn't sound like Kevin will play. No surprise..

The short hand Hawks as usual

I, don't even feel good w/out Kevin. But, we did beat Baylor, which surprised me.

Hunter 20, KJ 15, Dajuan 15, Furph 15 and Elmjamparknick 5 am I dreaming and reliving the 70's? There was my gf. Tootsie Taylor in the 70's and she was no nightmare.

@Zabudda are you saying that's a winning total in your dream?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

@Zabudda are you saying that's a winning total in your dream?

Yes.

@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Doesn't sound like Kevin will play. No surprise..

The short hand Hawks as usual

Yes, confirmed out basically. A friend of mine camping at the game said he didn't even have basketball clothes on headed towards early warm ups.

The way Kevin has been playing hero ball, if the younger guys step up we could be better without injured Kevin. Now healthy Kevin from earlier this no question we are better with.

“We don’t know when or if Kevin McCullar is coming back”

:grimacing_face:

@BShark

Just about every year it's a critical piece out.

Full quote here

“Well, my concern is will he play again this year? It's not a day-to-day deal, it's a week-to-week deal. He obviously won't go on Tuesday. I'm not going to put him out there because he's missed so much time. Even though you can look at games, the number of games missed but that's not the story. The story is that he played against OU and had what, two days of a little bit of practice and then played and wasn’t effective and it didn’t feel good at all. So he's got to practice for a good week before we put him out there so that he can go and not be reinjured worse because the big thing is I’d like to have for the postseason, where he's in rhythm, and our team has a chance to be the best it can be going into the second week of March. But, you know, I'm hoping we get him back but it's not anything that I'm I'm thinking it's gonna happen tomorrow or Monday. I don't think that at all.”

Yikes I'd just sit him out for the rest of the regular season and bring him back for the conference tournament so it doesn't effect seeding

@BShark

I come out of that statement more optimistic they are just going to play it week to week. Ideally he's healthy enough to play before the NCAA tournament but given how the league is, it may be best to sit him through that crapshoot as well

Who would have thought that our team, extremely low in the depth department, could lose arguably our best player (Kevin), and then play better than when we had Kevin.

This is the case. And WHY did we play better? Because the rest of our team didn't have Kevin around to lean on. Everyone had to step up. And with these last few games we are seeing a team where most everyone is playing their best basketball. Super shout out to Nick! He's a gutsy performer! He's becoming a different version of The Furph! How I can make such a claim? Look at the stats in the Texas game. 19 of our 27 FTs were shot by either Furph or Nick!

If you can believe this... I'm happy Kevin will sit for the BYU game. Let him recover and give us another developmental game without him!

If we can stay healthy now... (and get healthy)... I'm becoming a lot more optimistic about March!

@drgnslayr

I'd like to buy the last game and bottle it. Will we see the same energy tonight?

They had a week off and were home. Texas was at 2 very distinct disadvantages despite
being without Kev. We have yet to see the version of KU we see at home anywhere else. That's probably my biggest concern. It's sort of a mirage.

Baylor and Houston are huge road games where they have the opportunity to rise to the occasion. If they can win 1 or both without Kev that's something to get excited about for March imo

Agreed, tonight's game will hopefully be the start of some consistency from Timbies. I would also like to see either McDowell or Elmarko really step up and try and take his starting spot over the next couple of games.

Since the B12 race is out of our hands, I think most people would like to see him sit and get as healthy as possible. Even if we drop 3/4 over the next couple of games, I see us as at worst a 3 seed and I would rather go into the NCAA tournament as that with Kev healthy than as a 1 seed with him still banged up.

I'd like to bottle up our Houston game! Fran could cry w/the job we did on Shead! 😜

Posting something about this in behind the wall

@dylans I hope 60 is her age and not her weight...

@BeddieKU23

Yes.... didn't mention how fresh we looked! I think with our remaining schedule we can have decent legs. If we can play a high level of ball and pull leads in games, our starters can get a little more rest.

I think our previous issue with bench depth is starting to go away.

First... other teams we play are getting tired now, too.

Second... we are getting better minutes from Nick... even Elmarko and Parker are looking better. Elmarko didn't score in the Texas game but he dished 4 assists (including the best assist in college ball this year). His +/- was highest on the team at +18!

Furph has definitely solidified as a contributor, too!

@drgnslayr

Good stuff, appreciate your optimistic view. I see it and want to believe it but I'm not there, call it cautiousness. I need to see a road game look like we have at home at times. The bench pieces can step up at times but we've yet to see it even 2 games in a row or in basically any road game so far.

Timberlake's production seems tied to bigger minutes and he's proven he's not a reliable scorer off the bench in spot minutes. He's in a perfect spot though to salvage his season and keep confidence in himself.

Elmarko is a non scorer but his impact getting others buckets and his energy flashed big time against Texas. We never see it 2 games in a row though. It's unfortunate that he was further away from being a big contributor then I thought he would be.

I think some of the benches issues fall on coaching preferences. We have a coach that's second to none in competitiveness and ego to win games. It's why he's the best and in the HOF. The big 4 have been overworked because Self has such a high bar for the level of play he wants to see which then caused them to get worn down and led to nagging injuries etc. Now he's forced to let the bench play through stuff they could have played through earlier this season with more balance in minutes. Just some 2 cents. Perhaps this was the road that had to be traveled to get where we want to go this season.

This team hasn't hit their peak and it would be nice if they are close to reaching it.

Our remaining schedule is a killer and if form holds true to what we've done on the road we're going to lose 3 more reg season games. The schedule makers really gave us a tough one this year. Simien was talking about it on the podcast. From later Saturday home games to a Big Monday date in traditionally tough places to play two weekends in a row. Home and Home with the toughest teams in the league too. I'm sure some other big 12 teams have had similar misfortunes in scheduling. So I'll so the usual whine from me, they should have left us at 10 teams.

@wissox

Gets worse next yr adding the 4 teams from the former Pac-12.

I did the research on KU getting more Big Monday road games then others and need to compile it.

@BeddieKU23 Funny thing about tonight is I thought we'd lose 3 based on having a road game tonight. Obviously I was mistaken about the location.

Per Self- Kev trending to possibly play Saturday against Baylor if he practices. Perhaps it's more likely he returns against K-St at home but we shall see.

Sounds like the message Self sent Kev on air was received. Perhaps the L at home shook the tree a bit too.

@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Per Self- Kev trending to possibly play Saturday against Baylor if he practices. Perhaps it's more likely he returns against K-St at home but we shall see.

Sounds like the message Self sent Kev on air was received. Perhaps the L at home shook the tree a bit too.

Agree and I'm pretty sure Coach and Kevin had an extended little talk on some things

Kev "tweaked his knee" in the K-St game per Self during Thursdays press conference. Didn't practice Thursday, hopeful for Friday. Here we go again.

Dang. I remember when it happened. I wondered if he’d hit the bench. But, he kept playing.

@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Kev "tweaked his knee" in the K-St game per Self during Thursdays press conference. Didn't practice Thursday, hopeful for Friday. Here we go again.

I bet he plays seeing as how this last little episode all played out

@jayballer67

If he's hurt his knee I don't think it will be the same situation as what brewed before. We shall find out tommorow what is going on. Not a good situation still regardless

Kev wasn't out there for first part of warmups

Warming up now

@BeddieKU23 🤞

Self didn't sound hopeful in pregame

@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:

Self didn't sound hopeful in pregame

McCullar starting according to Gurley