New NFL season starts today, so much excitement after some incredible offseason moves and draft.
Caleb Williams in Chicago, Aaron in NY, Texans loading up on young talent and so on. So many new lucrative contracts.
Let the commentary begin.
New NFL season starts today, so much excitement after some incredible offseason moves and draft.
Caleb Williams in Chicago, Aaron in NY, Texans loading up on young talent and so on. So many new lucrative contracts.
Let the commentary begin.
I gotta start getting into football mode soon.
I am looking forward to plays with new kick off rules. Teams can now think and do a lot of things.
I wish the poor NFL players made more money. Maybe we could have a bake sale or car wash to help out? Sell our firstborn to go watch a game in person. Of course, they would still be nosebleed seats.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
I am looking forward to plays with new kick off rules. Teams can now think and do a lot of things.
I am too, but after the hall of fame game Iām becoming increasingly worried the new kickoff will be boring. Itās just a glorified run play. The high speed of the kickoff was what made it exciting. False starts will be all too common it appears. And the collisions will be at a low enough speed to reduce injury, but Iām worried itās not creating any interesting plays.
Between this and Calebās great day it was fun š¦ View Tweet?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
@FarmerJayhawk it's been deleted
@Crimsonorblue22 dang. Austin Booker had an awesome game today for my Bears
@FarmerJayhawk I read that, just not there. He looks so big!
Iām gonna guess the Chiefs experiment with the rugby player ends pretty soon.
Heās definitely not a FB at least.
I see he even kicked off today.
@rockchalkjayhawk Steele looked good on the few carries I saw. Runs hard. Steele and Pacheco could really wear down a D. But itās hard to garner much from one pre-season game. Itās all smoke and mirrors until week one. Pseudo-football.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Steele looked good on the few carries I saw. Runs hard. Steele and Pacheco could really wear down a D. But itās hard to garner much from one pre-season game. Itās all smoke and mirrors until week one. Pseudo-football.
Yea, agreed. One game hard to judge. He didnāt look very big or strong though.
I kinda had the game on in the background, so maybe I missed a few plays and shouldnāt judge him yet. The running play I saw he didnāt look too good. His blocking looked really bad and kinda clueless.
Oh well, new profession for him. Gotta learn.
But crap, the bigger news was the Hollywood Brown injury!!!
@#$&*+-%!!!!!
Why canāt we have nice things?
Hello JuJu?
@rockchalkjayhawk Do you have Steele (UCLA fullback) confused with our rugby experiment? Steele blasted his way through the defense and scored oour only TD, carrying guys to the goal line. The rugby guy had some trouble.
Caveats about it being 2 preseason games apply, but it sure looks we got a steal in Booker @wissox š¦ View Tweet?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
Did anyone see Jason Bean throw a TD? Can't find it
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@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Do you have Steele (UCLA fullback) confused with our rugby experiment? Steele blasted his way through the defense and scored oour only TD, carrying guys to the goal line. The rugby guy had some trouble.
very possible that i confused them. As i said, gotta catch up to my football news :)
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Steele looked good on the few carries I saw. Runs hard. Steele and Pacheco could really wear down a D. But itās hard to garner much from one pre-season game. Itās all smoke and mirrors until week one. Pseudo-football.
Yea, agreed. One game hard to judge. He didnāt look very big or strong though.
I kinda had the game on in the background, so maybe I missed a few plays and shouldnāt judge him yet. The running play I saw he didnāt look too good. His blocking looked really bad and kinda clueless.
Oh well, new profession for him. Gotta learn.
But crap, the bigger news was the Hollywood Brown injury!!!
@#$&*+-%!!!!!
Why canāt we have nice things?
Hello JuJu?
I meant Steele the undrafted FB. Zammit is the HB/rugby player and sucked.
Edit didnāt see @mayjays post. Sorry for the duplicate
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Steele looked good on the few carries I saw. Runs hard. Steele and Pacheco could really wear down a D. But itās hard to garner much from one pre-season game. Itās all smoke and mirrors until week one. Pseudo-football.
Yea, agreed. One game hard to judge. He didnāt look very big or strong though.
I kinda had the game on in the background, so maybe I missed a few plays and shouldnāt judge him yet. The running play I saw he didnāt look too good. His blocking looked really bad and kinda clueless.
Oh well, new profession for him. Gotta learn.
But crap, the bigger news was the Hollywood Brown injury!!!
@#$&*+-%!!!!!
Why canāt we have nice things?
Hello JuJu?
I meant Steele the undrafted FB. Zammit is the HB/rugby player and sucked.
Ha, we've been drinking the same medicine.
I'll go take another look at the game to figure out who the hell i was thinking about.
I just remember one new dude in the backfield trying to block, and it didn't look so good.
@FarmerJayhawk Huh? Marty Booker coming back? Kidding of course, but I really don't pay attention to the Bears until the games are real. Hope we got a good one though!
@FarmerJayhawk Oh, how soon I forget. Yes, he's a Jayhawk! And he's a Bear. I just got a feeling things are on the upswing.
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Do you have Steele (UCLA fullback) confused with our rugby experiment? Steele blasted his way through the defense and scored oour only TD, carrying guys to the goal line. The rugby guy had some trouble.
OK, I went back and rewatched Rees-Zammit's plays. My only confusion was that i thought he was going to play FB. I hadn't read enough about what they plan to do with him. I guess RB, WR and special teams for now.
So, he didn't really stand out with positive plays. Not enough to truly make a judgment on him, but his blocking needed some help.
Always exciting to have a new player, so fingers crossed.
@rockchalkjayhawk Super Bowls aren't nice things?
@rockchalkjayhawk LRZ is practice squad material. He also kicked off one time during the pre-season game to have an extra tackler out there. Special teams might be his way to the roster, but I doubt itās as a kicker.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Steele looked good on the few carries I saw. Runs hard. Steele and Pacheco could really wear down a D. But itās hard to garner much from one pre-season game. Itās all smoke and mirrors until week one. Pseudo-football.
Yea, agreed. One game hard to judge. He didnāt look very big or strong though.
I kinda had the game on in the background, so maybe I missed a few plays and shouldnāt judge him yet. The running play I saw he didnāt look too good. His blocking looked really bad and kinda clueless.
Oh well, new profession for him. Gotta learn.
But crap, the bigger news was the Hollywood Brown injury!!!
@#$&*+-%!!!!!
Why canāt we have nice things?
Hello JuJu?
I meant Steele the undrafted FB. Zammit is the HB/rugby player and sucked.
Edit didnāt see @mayjays post. Sorry for the duplicate
Steele is solid. I hope he makes the team. He was TOUGH every time I watched him in college and that showed in the preseason game as well. Solid bench option.
Booker had a really nice hit in Hard Knocks. Heās gonna be terrific for us
Caleb W seems to be real deal, Bears have a bright future.
Ha, as predictedā¦JuJu is back!
@rockchalkjayhawk So, 2 years in a row the Chiefs get back a WR at a minimal cost who had left to get more money in free agency.
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk So, 2 years in a row the Chiefs get back a WR at a minimal cost who had left to get more money in free agency.
makes perfect sense, right?
I hope JuJu makes the team, is still athletic, and can catch a ball and contribute more consistently than guys like Moore, Watson, Ross and Remigio.
I truly like the athleticism of Kadarius Toney. I'd like to see him stick around. Not sure if he will, but maybe they can find a way for him to succeed. It seems Andy likes him as well.
@rockchalkjayhawk Toney is dangerous, very explosive, but also very prone to boneheaded mistakes. Two penalties on one play this preseason, too many passes hit his hands last year that the defense caught. And then there is that electric return two super bowls ago that set up the game saving drive.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Toney is dangerous, very explosive, but also very prone to boneheaded mistakes. Two penalties on one play this preseason, too many passes hit his hands last year that the defense caught. And then there is that electric return two super bowls ago that set up the game saving drive.
Exactly! He canāt possibly be the first boneheaded athlete to play in the NFL. Simplify things for him. Make use of his athleticism. Andyās smart, but hasnāt figured him out yet.
@rockchalkjayhawk I never want to see Young Joka play a meaningful snap. - pass hit his hands in the first game last year and ends up a pick six that cost the game. Lined up offsides and nullified Kelceās lateral back to Toney touchdown - lost by a score again. This pre-season he had two penalties on one play.
Itās just hard to pass up on his potential, but his down side last year cost the Chiefs at least two games!
Then thereās Skyy Moore - he doesnāt really hurt you, but has no way to help either. Iād cut both. No upside to Skyy and too much downside to Toney. Good Toney is electric, maybe they can trade him?
Well there ya go. Toney got the boot.
And the rugby dude too.
What do Chiefs fans think about FAU?
I was expecting more from him in yr 2 but did not see much growth at least in pre-season games.
Is he a bust or needs more time to develop?
Chiefs released QB Chris Oladokun. Released WR Kadarius Toney. Released WR Justyn Ross. Released Louis Rees-Zammit. (courtesy ESPN)
Sorry to lose Ross. They also picked up a TE and a LB today by trading '25 and '26 seventh round picks. Not at all sure what that is all about.
Bean and Fairchild didnāt make the cut. Bummer.
@FarmerJayhawk And that's after this analysis that had many expecting Bean to make it through:
https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/colts-jason-bean-analytics-expert-top-performer ā
Booker made the Bears' roster.
And Puni made it onto the 49ers.
More background on the Chiefs' new LB, Cameron Thomas (3rd rd pick by the Cards in '22). More of an edge rusher than LB.
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2024/08/27/chiefs-trade-cameron-thomas-cardinals/ ā
If Bean can get good NFL QB coach, I am confident that he will become a very serviceable backup QB. He has tremendous potential, and he has speed.
He can make plays.
What he needs is solid coaching to avoid stupid mistakes and mediocre plays.
Also, per CBS Sports, Bean āinjured his shoulder on his one-yard rushing touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Colts' preseason finale against the Bengals on Thursday. If he clears waivers, Bean could be invited back by Indianapolis to be on the practice squad, or he could look to take his talents elsewhere.ā
@Gorilla72 wonder how bad the injury is and if it's his throwing shoulder?
Louis Rees-Zammit signed with the Jags practice squad.
Interestingā¦CEH is not on the active roster, out with PTSD.
I didnāt know this, but heās apparently traumatized after killing a dude who was trying to rob him in college. That sucks.
Not to be callous, but will the Chiefs somebody else?
@rockchalkjayhawk Perine
No way the Chiefs lose back to back season openers. I can't wait for Thursday Night.
I imagined the opportunity to 3peat was rare, but it is not: since 1967 nine teams have won back to back SBs. Man, what a great time to be a Chiefs fan. Get it done Chiefs.
Clyde was honored for saving a kid during the shooting after the parade, he's a hero! Gonna pray for him.
Game day! :)
So how many of you had to pony up to buy Peacock to watch? Effers!
Not me, have nbc. Had to last yr. Was only 4.99
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
So how many of you had to pony up to buy Peacock to watch? Effers!
Whatever it costs it will be worth it to watch the KC Chiefs.
@stoptheflop we have different opinions on this. I'm to the point where "they" can quit charging for watching sports or I will give up watching sports.
I hear there are other options in life. Hiking, boating, fishing, etc. Screw the professional money grubbers.
@nuleafjhawk doesn't boating and fishing cost, a license and gas?
yea, sucks for people like me that aren't in the KC area, where i assume it's on regular TV?
Same old same old, but all these different services keep adding up, yet my salary stays the same!
Oh well, as @stoptheflop said, worth it for the Chiefs.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
yea, sucks for people like me that aren't in the KC area, where i assume it's on regular TV?
Same old same old, but all these different services keep adding up, yet my salary stays the same!
Oh well, as @stoptheflop said, worth it for the Chiefs.
The game is on NBC, so everyone should be able to find it.
@stoptheflop said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
yea, sucks for people like me that aren't in the KC area, where i assume it's on regular TV?
Same old same old, but all these different services keep adding up, yet my salary stays the same!
Oh well, as @stoptheflop said, worth it for the Chiefs.
The game is on NBC, so everyone should be able to find it.
MOTHER EFFER!!!!!!!!!!
I read somewhere that it was strictly streaming on Peacock only! So i thought i had to order Peacock!!!
$#@!%%^^^^^%$$##
I'm either a dumbass (likely) or was duped. Grrr.
@rockchalkjayhawk not to make u feel worse, I said I had nbc. Should we start a go fund me?
Wow, the stadium is rocking. Let's hope the Chiefs play up to the level of excitement for this game.
@rockchalkjayhawk are you watching on peacock or nbc? Maybe taking turns. I'm giving you a hard time. š«¶š¤£
Make sure you cancel peacock right away, you will still get it for 30 days.
Added bonus you get to watch Philly and whomever
Those fg's should've been td's. ā¤ļø
Nice, sweet missed fg! š¾š¾š¾ speaking of sweet, nice rain here! Been awhile in the desert of hutch.
Not many fans on here?
Pacheco!
Tomorrow's game from Brazil is on Peacock only, I believe.
Man Bolton looks super slow tonight and getting burned like crazy
A lot of cheap shots by the ravens again tonight
Punt God coming up clutch
LFG D!!!
A good win against a good team, could play a big factor later on in the year as to whom gets home field in the playoffs. Offense looked pretty good most the night, defense has a lot to work on IMO. If Lamar who played a good game could throw. The chiefs likely lose
@mayjay yes but @rockchalkjayhawk gets it
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
Tomorrow's game from Brazil is on Peacock only, I believe.
Yup. That must have been my confusion.
@rockchalkjayhawk you're a good sport, but at least we won, barely. I think we are missing sneed. What do u think?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk you're a good sport, but at least we won, barely. I think we are missing sneed. What do u think?
Hey, a win vs a top team is a win! Happy about that. I thought the defense played well. Super tough to non-traditionally defend against Lamar. Ya never know what heās gonna do. The D line was mostly great til they got winded. No real issues with the secondary. They made some good plays. The Baltimore touchdowns did seem preventable though.
Go Chiefs! And screw Peacock! :)
@Crimsonorblue22 my wife and I just "qualified" for a lifetime fishing license. Gas .....$25 bucks each trip out. Or about the price of a pop and hot dog at one of the professional college games.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@stoptheflop said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
yea, sucks for people like me that aren't in the KC area, where i assume it's on regular TV?
Same old same old, but all these different services keep adding up, yet my salary stays the same!
Oh well, as @stoptheflop said, worth it for the Chiefs.
The game is on NBC, so everyone should be able to find it.
MOTHER EFFER!!!!!!!!!!
I read somewhere that it was strictly streaming on Peacock only! So i thought i had to order Peacock!!!
$#@!%%^^^^^%$$##
I'm either a dumbass (likely) or was duped. Grrr.
After seeing all the Greenbay/Eagles ads for the game in Brazil Friday night, that game is only shown on Peacock. So, for those who got Peacock to watch the Chiefs, you can get your money's worth watching Friday night's game.
@Crimsonorblue22 The absence of Sneed will not be noticeable after a few games. Spags will get the DBs to stop trying to tackle by diving behind the runners. I hope....
Balt gave up on using Henry in the 2nd half b/c the Chiefs were up by 2 scores. Remember the Titans game in the playoffs a few years back? Same thing. A good lead can negate his dominance.
Couple of observations:
While Xavier got two TDS, Rice is most important WR for Chiefs offense.
Nick B was lost, not a good start, Gay was missed. KC needs athletic LBs.
Overall DBs did a good job without Sneed.
Ravens are very tough and legit.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
Couple of observations:
While Xavier got two TDS, Rice is most important WR for Chiefs offense.
Nick B was lost, not a good start, Gay was missed. KC needs athletic LBs.
Overall DBs did a good job without Sneed.
Ravens are very tough and legit.
LB was a position of concern for me coming into the season. I thought they mostly played well. Helped stop the run. Bolton looked like a turtle on the Likely touchdown play though.
Bolton needs to step up big time, he just looked so slow out there. The tight ends were blowing him away. If has another game like that, he needs to be demoted to special teams. That was one of the worst performances Iāve seen in a long time from a linebacker.
Well the Ravens win was exciting and frustrating. Jackson had a lot of opportunities to beat KC on the last drive. Did everyone see Coach Harbaugh signal for a two point conversion before the TD was overturned? I sure wish I knew what play was going to be called. Henry up the middle? Play/action for Jackson to run wide or pass. Wow, that would have been fun. Next up, Cincy. I was surprised the Chiefs get another home game for this game.
Fun game. I won't be online as much for football games this year, especially the Chiefs as I'm trying to enjoy time with my mom who is really getting up in years at this point. Plus being on twitter and such during games really brings out more of my negative side.
Willie Gayās athleticism is missed. Bolton got exposed.
@Crimsonorblue22 It appears that this years' D will be more like Spag's typical teams who develop and gel over course of the season. Last year was an anomaly.
I've always used ESPN for stats during and after the games. Mahomes passing was 20/28 for 291 yds. What do you say the average is? I've always measured the average by completions, but this year, ESPN is using Yards divided by Attempts. Average yds per completion means something useful; average yds per attempt doesn't mean very much.
@stoptheflop I thought average was always total yards divided by attempts
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
@BShark Understood, hope you can watch highlights and stuff
Oh I am going over to watch games with her while I still can. She loves football.
There is an average yards per attempt and an average yards per completion, but to be honest I never look at either. For me itās about ~~total yards, TDs, and third down conversion percentage.~~ nah itās about marveling over Mahomes. Heās ruined me for other sports even. Fanboy here.
An update on the Peacock NFL watching experienceā¦
Insert as many profanities as possible hereā¦absolute horseshit. Iām on the west coast, so couldnāt really catch the game live to start. I tried to watch a replay hours after the game ended, and even tried to watch a replay this morning. NOPE!
Not available. Incredible. WTF kinda service is this? Surely Iām not the only human on the planet that canāt always watch a game live.
Cancelling with extreme prejudice.
Saquan Barkley was a great get by Eagles, hope Jordan Love does not miss much time @jayballer54
@rockchalkjayhawk u couldn't get it on nbc?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk u couldn't get it on nbc?
I think it was Peacock stream only--- didn't even check
Well my Pack took a Major blow with love spraining his MCL - - last play of the fricken game. They are hoping three-four weeks , shoot e don't have any an back up - -with two noodles. We could very easily be 0-5 -- -that's is he is only out 3-4 weeks.
Shouldn't been in that position anyways traded blow for blow with Philly- - our penalties just killed us , 10 penal , - -had a 38 yd TD called back because of one - -then you add not cashing in on forced TO"s w had two INT's and a recovered fumble - -deep in Philly territory and only got a couple field goals -- not going to cut it - maybe we get lucky
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk u couldn't get it on nbc?
Oops, ranting about the Peacock experience for the Eagles-Packers game Friday.
The Chiefs I saw on NBC. Whew!
@jayballer67 was talking chiefs
What do you think about Brady in the new role as a commentator
Texans vs Colts was the most entertaining game yesterday in my opinion.
What about Panthers? Sorry to see such talented QB in Bryce Youngās career being in jeopardy when staff is totally inept.
Did anyone hear about Tyreek Hill getting detained and handcuffed on his way to the game.
Then he scored 80 yd TD.
Unbelievable.
Poor Cheetah. Hate to see that happen to anybody.
@rockchalkjayhawk Caleous Campbell (sp) was cuffed too, when he tried to help Tyreek out - he shouldāve just called a lawyer. My understanding is the officer has been placed on administrative leave. And here is why- dickhead cop doesnāt understand peopleās rights.
https://www.tiktok.com/ ā@nbcnews/video/7412871532805999915
Kadarius Toney was signed by Browns after their pathetic loss to Cowboys
Deshawn Watson trade is shaping out to be one of the worst in recent history.
Damn, Browns gave 3 1st round picks and more to Texans and signed him for over $200M, what a waste.
Speaking of Deshawn...anybody see that he's accused of yet another sexual assault? I need more fingers and toes to count em all.
@rockchalkjayhawk Unbelievable
This trade could not have worked out any better for Texans, jackpot
Did you guys see the hit on Tua? My goodness I honestly think he should retire but why didnāt he slide. He had the first down yardage easily
Looks like Hollywood is done cookin. shoulder surgery. out for months. eff.
@rockchalkjayhawk Someone else will pick up the slack. If Worthy can catch the ball - nobody can catch him.
@rockchalkjayhawk Thatās a tough blow
Concern with Worthy is his lack of size, he is only 160 lbs
Thus Chiefs have to be careful on how they use him on offense, he canāt be put in situations where he get many hits.
I wonder if the Chiefs bring in another deep threat WR somehow. Wouldnāt surprise me.
The Chiefs have 3 WRs on the practice squad, Nikko Rimigio, Justyn Ross, and Montrell Washington. I'd like to see Ross get a few weeks and just finally break out of the problems his 2 yr foot injury caused him. But it will probably be whoever shows best combo of speed and route running to give pressure opposite Worthy.
A few upsets today.
Ravens going down at home to Raiders.
Niners going down.
How about Saints knocking off Dak & boys.
Let's go Chiefs. Please throw the ball down field in this second series.
@stoptheflop or this series! š long game.
Wow.
Worthy....
Speed.....
Nice 3rd series. Rashee Rice with the nice sidelines TD catch.
TOs Damn
2 TOs just isn't going to work against the Bengals
Not lookin good
Bengals have scored on every drive
Bad clock management on accepting the opi
But maybe it works out. Donāt need to burn much clock to score and have a one point lead at half and the ball after the half.
Nostradamus I am not
Nice opening drive. Running the ball between the tackles. Got the lead, now the defense needs another 3 and out.
Nice drive.
Bengals scored 10 pts off TOs, let's play a clean game now.
So much about playing a clean game...
Wow that was a great pick smh guess none of my teams can kick the turnover bug
Got to give him credit, great INT
Wow,
That was cool.
Nice to see Chiefs D force a TO
Chiefs have a problem at LT
Great game.
Butker....
Butker is quickly becoming one of the greats
Chiefs are 2-0 but they have to clean up a solve some issues
Butker is so money. I wish there had been a little less time on the clock at the end of the first half. I would like to have seen a 68 yard attempt.
Butker said some controversial stuff over the summer, some of which I donāt agree with personally but man I am glad that he is a good dude in the locker room and he is a Chief
@kjayhawks they got lucky today on 4th and 16 penalty
They need to fix several issues
LT is becoming a problem
Bengals came in with excellent game plans on both ends
Shroud vs Caleb is a fascinating matchup
Nagy stinks. Poach coach K since Ku canāt have him!
Caleb can ball. Especially impressive given WR2 is out and WR3 is on one leg
@AsadZ But, the previous play where the Chiefs passed for the first down, then had a penalty for hands to the face was "lucky" for the Bengals. I don't like when penalties make a difference in the game either, but it was clearly pass interference so it's worse if KC loses on a non-call.
Fun game to watch but hopefully the OT play can improve
@BShark the rookie KS was terrible, but he got very little help. Iām not sure why Andy didnāt have someone chip for him when it was obvious he was in over his head. Also Thuney was no help on a few of those rushes and heās normally solid. The left side of the line was a mess.
@stoptheflop If the refs had swallowed their whistles - which is what the bengals fans want on that one play, but forget about the play immediately prior- the Chiefs would have had a long completion on 4th down instead of a long pass interference call on the next play. It really changes nothing other than Mahomes crappy statistical output would have been slightly better.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
Caleb can ball. Especially impressive given WR2 is out and WR3 is on one leg
? Did he look good, stats are terrible. I thought he had flashes in the pre-season. Iām banking on him being good to great at some point for purely selfish reasons. lol bought a couple of his rookie cards - I treat it like stock for athletes. Like some ipoās though out the gate is as high as it gets (The Panthers Young comes to mind).
@dylans KS looks a little like O Brown did. He doesn't slide to the outside fast enough. Thuney was trying to help but KS didn't give enough space.
Definitely should have kept a TE to help on the left (were those weird formations supposed to help?). Could have done a screen pass after steering the DE back into KS.
@FarmerJayhawk Jury is out. It's kind of malpractice of Poles to get this QB and not provide an offensive line for him. He's gonna get killed back there.
I seem to remember last year before the draft Williams compared himself to Pat Mahomes. I remember thinking at the time tht I hoped he wouldn't start right off the bat and instead, like PM, would get a year of watching and learning.
It gets a lot of play but I still think Reid and Veach don't get enough credit for keeping Alex Smith as PM's mentor. Bears needed a vet to do that. (They could have even signed our backup, Carson Wentz, a hugely experienced guy who could have given them adequate play.)
Pacheco has a fractured fibula, will likely go to IR. We have Steele and Perine right now. Here are available free agents (Chiefs could pick someone from another team's practice squad, but there are some restrictions on that, I think). I'd sign Cook or McKinnon.
Best Running Back Free Agents, 2024:
Dalvin Cook
Latavius Murray
Kareem Hunt
Jerick McKinnon
Melvin Gordon
Alex Armah
Eno Benjamin
Salvon Ahmed
Giovanni Ricci
Josh Kelley
DeWayne McBride
Matt Breida
James Robinson
Royce Freeman
Isaiah Spiller
Pacheco! Damn!
So let's talk about the engine that's missing a piston...
Travis Kelce is invisible this year. Four catches for 39 yards in the first two games.
What gives? Taylor wear him out, or is he just getting old and in the way? Saving him for later in the season?
Odd for sure.
@rockchalkjayhawk I think all of the above.
Pacheco out 6 to 8 wks, acc to ESPN. KC looking at K Hunt.
$6 mil in cap space, BTW.
Surprised Hunt would want to come back to KC.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
So let's talk about the engine that's missing a piston...
Travis Kelce is invisible this year. Four catches for 39 yards in the first two games.
What gives? Taylor wear him out, or is he just getting old and in the way? Saving him for later in the season?
Odd for sure.
He was double teamed most of the game and Mahomes didnāt force it to Kelce other than that one INT. Itās nice having some receiving options!
Of note - it was Kelceās first game with less than 3 receptions since 2018!
Per Steven A people saw more Taylor than Kelce....
I believe Kelse is getting fewer targets as a way of making sure he's available for big games and the playoffs. It's a long, long season. At 34, 3-4 targets the first 10-12 games seems about right. Or, maybe trainer Mickey was right when he told Rocky "women weaken legs."
@rockchalkjayhawk Hunt knows KC is a well oiled machine at this point Iām sure he was calling as soon as the news broke. He was let go because he was dishonest with coach Reid about what happened.
Man Monday night meltdown by Eagles š¦ last night
Make sure the ladies in your life stay safe, KC area folks
@FarmerJayhawk Huh?
@nuleafjhawk Kareem Hunt is back with the Chiefs
@FarmerJayhawk Oh - gotcha.
@FarmerJayhawk You donāt want to get me going on that subject. I think the fans should protest the players treatment of women and their families most the time. Like I say you will get away with plenty in this country if you have the cash or are a sports star.
Jets looked good yesterday, good for NY fans
Watched the Jets last night. I for one am a little surprised that QB Rodgers has looked good so far.
The standings for the league are so symetrical:
9 teams 2-0
1 team 2-1
12 teams 1-1
1 team 1-2
9 teams 0-2
Top 16 are exactly the opposite of bottom 16.
I would bet this is the last time the records are mirrored like that.
Well I got to feel a little teensy bit encouraged with the Pack playing without Jordon. We have won both our games, were 2-1, now I realize our opponents haven't been world beaters but hey, every game w win without our starting QB is a bonus.
Beat the Titans today 30-14 ans sacked their QB - - -EIGHT TIMES- ---EIGHT. -- Tennessee had the # 1 defense coming into today and w put up right at 400 yards of offense so I'll take that for sure.- -Much tougher next week we got Minnesota at home , but talk is Jordon will probably be back- - can't asak for much more out of our back up QB
Yeah good win for Packers
Mahomes just looks a little off so far this season
@kjayhawks I think he suits up in #6 for Kansas on Saturday
@nuleafjhawk he aināt that bad, doesnāt have 9 turnovers in 3.5 games. Heās a lot like Brett Favre to me, heāll throw some picks but also some pretty crazy TDs. At one point before Favre retired he had the record for the most TD passes and INTs. If JD had a 65% completion percentage and 1 to 1 TD to INT ratio weād be undefeated.
Iām not sure Collingsworth has watched a Chiefs game all year. Heās talking about the O line and how Mahomes has no worries about rushers coming on the edges.
@kjayhawks c'mon man. You know I have to make some stupid remark!
But, yeah - Mahomes does seem a little off so far.
Both roughing the passer calls were a J-O-K-E difference is it kept a Falcons drive going
That did not look like a touchdown. No review?
Sneed is being missed
They are giving many big plays
Huge chunk plays. Thatās bad.
Jeez. Mahomes not on his game with accuracy today.
@rockchalkjayhawk he really hasnāt looked great all season thus far, neither has Kelce. Guess as long as they keep winning, should start to play better. As Iāve said you donāt what to be playing your best ball in September especially in the nfl.
@rockchalkjayhawk you'd think someone who's won consecutive Super Bowls would be a little more accurate
Better than last yr at this time.
Nick Bolton showed up tonight good to see
uh oh...
Thx Nick Bolton! Chiefs are winning close ones.
Wow. what a weird ass game!
Glad the Chiefs held on.
Of course theyāre gonna blame the refs with that non call in the end zone like Atlanta didnāt get a ton calls tonight. The last 3 penalties on the chiefs were super weak or flat out wrong. Hope Rice is okay, Mahomes may have tweak his knee on a weird slide there as well
They are missing Hollywood, no other receiver has separated except Rice. They need someone to step up.
Mahomes needs to play better, sometimes he gets into a habit of become too cute.
He needs to be patient and go for long drives as Defenses are not giving big plays with 2 deep all the time.
Some high notes from the Chiefs winā¦
Kelce matched his season total with four catches and 30+ yards.
Rice was awesome.
I wanted to say Butker, then remembered he missed an extra point!
Steele has some Pacheco in him. Hard nosed yards.
@rockchalkjayhawk don't forget Bolton. He's an anchor on defense. Even for an ex Tiger.
How about Vikings offense and Darnold.
I cannot believe he is same high pick QB that bounced around for a few years and is finally playing in a system that suits his skills.
Bills are on fire
Jags D canāt stop Allen
Commanders giving a game to Bengals in Cincinnati
Bears got a nice W today
Come on Chiefs D
Come on Patrick, no more INTs please
Injury not looking good for Rice.
If he misses much time, big blow to Chiefs Offense.
Pretty rough start for KC
Offense is completely out of synch
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
Injury not looking good for Rice.
If he misses much time, big blow to Chiefs Offense.
Need Rice healthy. Best receiver by far.
No deep ball threat for KC so far
Punt God is looking good, but getting too much work!
Reid must have heard us LoL
Nice come from behind win.
D really stepped up after Q1.
4-0 but all games have been very very close.
i don't know how the Chiefs keep winning playing like this, but i'm happy about it!
Like the KU team, something seems off with the Chiefs. I for sure notice that defenses are putting more pressure on Mahomes this season. That's forcing him to make a quick decision, and he doesn't seem to be doing a good job of that. OR, his receivers aren't open and he's stuck with no good options. Hard to tell if that's true with TV angles. But he's making bad decisions again.
Some things now seem obvious:
-- Kareem Hunt is the new starting RB. That may be the last we see of the UCLA rookie Steele. The fumble seemed abnormal. I for one don't like how he holds the football with his dangerous running style, but he's exciting of course!
-- With Rice maybe out for the year (that's a HUGE hit!), we're gonna need a WR to step up. Who's it gonna be? Free agent? Anybody notice JuJu on the field today?
-- Cut Skyy Moore immediately. he serves no purpose. Surely a cheap veteran can do better? (I know, i know, cap hit, blah blah blah).
Anyway, a road win is a road win. Always happy about that!! Just seems like it may be tough to skate by like this the rest of the year. Hope i'm wrong.
@rockchalkjayhawk JuJu is a good blocker, has been non-existent catching the ball though. Skyy is not an NFL receiver, bummer. Hands of Steele, grip of butter needs not touch the ball again with Hunt running like that! Mahomes is off, but still makes it happen. I hope they start clicking soon on offense.
That pass to worthy was worthy of another one! Kelce back in the groove too!
OK, why on earth do they have TWO MNF games on at the same time????
Can't they let us watch em both back to back???
@rockchalkjayhawk who?
Kareem Hunt looked better than what I had expected. I hope with reps he will get even better.
Sky Moore is turning out to be a huge bust.
I think Chiefs made a mistake by giving him special teams duties, punt returns in his rookie year and drops/fumbles completely shattered his confidence.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk who?
Tennessee at Miami
and
Seattle at Detroit
I feel like i want to make fun of Mahomes for taking out Rice, but it's like against the law or something.
Miami Tennessee setting football back a few decades. š¤®
@rockchalkjayhawk You could make comments on articles in The Athletic. Seems like nothing is out of bounds there!
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
How about Vikings offense and Darnold.
I cannot believe he is same high pick QB that bounced around for a few years and is finally playing in a system that suits his skills.
This shows you how much being drafted into a good organization is worth. Darnold, Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield all look like good QBs in a good system.
Iām a bit disappointed with Chiefs OL play.
On too many occasions they are letting pressure get applied on Mahomes, pocket getting collapsed.
Hope coaches can get this fixed
OK Chiefs, it's Tuesday...so what the hell is going on with Rashee Rice? They can't figure out his injury by now? What's the hold up on the report?
@rockchalkjayhawk They are doing more tests and don't expect answers until next week. I suspect the Hollywood Brown injury needing unexpected surgery 5 weeks after his injury has made them very cautious about making sure how extensive the injury is before deciding how to proceed (with both treatment and the roster). From what I remember from certain painful events of long ago, they may also be waiting for swelling to go down because it can make it hard to determine the true extent of soft tissue damage.
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk They are doing more tests and don't expect answers until next week. I suspect the Hollywood Brown injury needing unexpected surgery 5 weeks after his injury has made them very cautious about making sure how extensive the injury is before deciding how to proceed (with both treatment and the roster). From what I remember from certain painful events of long ago, they may also be waiting for swelling to go down because it can make it hard to determine the true extent of soft tissue damage.
Ouch on the long ago soft tissues injuries.
Next week? Good gravy! That doesn't make me less impatient :)
I'm hoping for the best.
@rockchalkjayhawk If Reid says itās week to week, settle in. He will be out all year. lol. Week to week is the kiss of death š
Yea, still a bunch of cryptic stuff out there about Rashee. Maybe heāll go to Germany for treatment just like Christian McCaffrey did!
@rockchalkjayhawk Iāve known some people go to Germany for neck surgery. They can use replacement discs that are much more advanced than the ones used here. Ironically the discs are manufactured in the US. Beats fusion by a long shot. Not sure what McCaffrey is having done though.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Iāve known some people go to Germany for neck surgery. They can use replacement discs that are much more advanced than the ones used here. Ironically the discs are manufactured in the US. Beats fusion by a long shot. Not sure what McCaffrey is having done though.
Ha thatās crazy! I think you can simply get treatment in Europe thatās not legal yet in the good ole US of A?
McCaffrey was getting some work done on his Achilles issues. Assuming some sort of injections he canāt get here. Who knows.
Caleb Williams is getting better week by week
He made a few excellent throws today
Texans looked dangerous, many weapons on Offense
For the record, those Houston uniforms today are in the running for worst all time!
@rockchalkjayhawk I saw dat, injuries are tough
A clear recovery timetable for Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice is still not in place. After further testing on his injured knee Monday, though, the worst-case scenario has been avoided.
Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports Rice will need an LCL repair, but he adds that may be the only ligament requiring such a procedure. Riceās Week 4 injury was initially feared to be an ACL tear, but it appears that is not the case. While Rapoport notably indicates the second-year wideout is expected to miss the remainder of the season, ESPNās Adam Schefter reports Riceās recovery timeline will be much shorter than originally expected.
Nice to see Mahomes playing well tonight, the pick may have had a bit too much on it but it hit his receiver in the hands
@rockchalkjayhawk hopefully just 3 months. If so heāll be at full strength early (all?) next season. Yay!
The pass catchers played well against the Saints, but Iād still be in favor of adding a WR if they can get someone that can help on an expiring contract like Cooper (Browns). Or poach a practice squad guy like Metchie (Texans)
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk hopefully just 3 months. If so heāll be at full strength early (all?) next season. Yay!
The pass catchers played well against the Saints, but Iād still be in favor of adding a WR if they can get someone that can help on an expiring contract like Cooper (Browns). Or poach a practice squad guy like Metchie (Texans)
I'm a bit disappointed that he's likely out for the year. Speculation late last week was that he would be back. Sucks. So yea, add a WR! And a JuJu sighting! nice.
Aikman was high on Xavier, saying he may be a stud be season's end.
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HOW BOUT THOSE CHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFS
Reid deserves tremendous credit for instituting next man up mentality and players buying into it.
It appears that Saleh has been fired after 2-3 start.
Aaron Rogers experiment has not worked out so far.
Letās see how they do from here on out.
Was it Saleh who threw those picks the other day?
Sounds like we'll get a Rashee update today. He's under the knife. Confusing as heck, but they will get a bird's eye view of the damage.
And also, why again is Skyy Moore still on the team? Dropped yet another ball on a kickoff.
and here we go, official word:
OCTOBER 8: Riceās Tuesday procedure was a success, veteran insider Jordan Schultz reports. He will indeed miss the remainder of the campaign after the surgery repaired his LCL in addition to his hamstring. As hoped, though, no such repairs were needed on Riceās ACL or meniscus and a full recovery is expected. Rice remains attached to his rookie contract through 2026.
Chiefs have left so many points off in the red zone,
With strong D, imagine if Offense starts to capitalize, they can become unstoppable.
@rockchalkjayhawk Saleh demoted Hackett to give the play-calling duties to another guy, and then got fired. Escorted out by security. Woody talked with Aaron Rodgers before the firing but says AR had no input.
I believe that denial as much as I believe that I'm the Easter Bunny.
Brock Purdy & the Niners are 1.5 pt favorites over the Chiefs Sunday. That doesn't seem right to me. The Niners are 3-3 with losses to the Rams and Cardinals. I fully expect the Chiefs to dominate this. Of course when I expect a win-well you know...
@stoptheflop said in 2024 NFL Season:
Brock Purdy & the Niners are 1.5 pt favorites over the Chiefs Sunday. That doesn't seem right to me. The Niners are 3-3 with losses to the Rams and Cardinals. I fully expect the Chiefs to dominate this. Of course when I expect a win-well you know...
The Niners are slightly off their game so far this season. But like the Chiefs theyāve had a ton of significant injuries to deal with. They may be without yet another starting RB (CMC now Mason) this week. Btw, if Mason was on KC, youād love him. Kinda like Pacheco.
But their base model is still exceptional, and theyāre at home, so the 1.5 point spread isnāt a total surprise. They have a ton of offensive weapons. I donāt expect either team to dominate.
Should be a close game IMO.
I read today that Dominick Puni was really doing well for the forty-niners. - -Getting a lot of Praise from their Head Coach and players.-- Said he was on track for pro bowl-,- --talking about how he can play ALL five positions in O-Line - -he hasn't given up a QB sack through six games or a touch - -other players are really impressed by him Proud of our boy- - -ROCK CJALK great job Dominick
4 long years of Brock Purdy standing in the pocket and pummeling the Jayhawks. And now, we have to endure Mr. Irrelevant as the Niners QB, who are still 1.5 pt favorites over the 5-0 Chiefs. l'm sure hoping Mahomes has a great day and the KC defense rips Purdy apart.
Purdy is playing at a very high level.
This year he is keeping drives alive by running and making 1st downs.
Chiefs D have their work cut out for them.
Niners are now 2 pt favs. The 5-0 Chiefs are underdogs to the 3-3 Niners. Please don't tell me this would be a good loss for the Chiefs. I hope Chris Jones and company break Purdy into many small pieces.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
Purdy is playing at a very high level.
This year he is keeping drives alive by running and making 1st downs.
Chiefs D have their work cut out for them.
Yea, I think this game mostly comes down to how well the Chiefs D plays. The two defenses are comparable, but the 49ers arenāt as strong as theyāve been in past seasons.
I sadly think that Bosa goes ape shit on the edges. If that results in a turnover or two, that could be the difference.
Otherwise, the 49ers offense has the edge. Third Down And Jajuan (Jennings) is out, so that helps. Theyāre on their third kicker, too.
Living in the Bay Area, I can tell you that the 49ers and their fans are fired up.
Go Chiefs!
@rockchalkjayhawk one has to keep in mind revenge factor helping Niners, they most likely circled this game when schedule came out.
The Jets are such a shit show, pretty much have Green Bayās offense from a few years and the defense isnāt living up the hype either.
JuJu out against Raiders.
Jaylen Watson done for the season.
Injuries are taking a toll.
Dang.
And wide receivers are going down all over.
Trade for Kupp?
Nuk nuk nuk
The jets thought Rodgers was their miracle man. I was glad to see him go, Aaron is all about me , me , me -just full of drama. - Now the Jets see what they got - -I'm perfectly happy with Jordon Love , kind of a loose cannon but in time he will get that straightened out.- -Rogers is done, he is past his best years and just needs to retire
The Jeets thought as soon as they got him it was oh my God we are going to the Super Bowl -- ummm NOPE Aaron was really good in his prime - - -now not so much.
DeAndre Hopkins in da house!
He got any juice left in the tank?
I think he is not going to deep threat nor will get many yards after the catch, however, from what I have heard he is still a very solid route runner who does not drop many passes and will be good for intermediate passing attack.
Can't hurt at least, right?
If he can improvise like Kelce, maybe he and Mahomes will have a nice connection.
Looks like Skyy Moore has been placed on IR with a mysterious "core muscle" injury.
There must be cap implications. Not sure why they haven't just cut him outright.
@rockchalkjayhawk Skyy counts against the cap while on IR. They could save 700k by cutting him. Iām not sure what they see in him. Canāt catch. Too small to be a great blocker. Heās not fast, so Mecole is better on jet sweeps. The RB room is full so no place for him there as a gadget guy. Probably time to cut bait and see if he can get his head straight elsewhere.
Watching two refs looking right at one of the easiest face mask calls in NFL history. They wanted to be sure the Rams covered the spread in this one.
Good lord. How on earth can you miss that call? Dudeās head twisted front to back! So bad, and no recourse.
BEARS BEARS BEARS
@FarmerJayhawk Moments before tragedy
Man
SMH
How Bears lost this one
At some point youād think the defensive backs would realize that batting it up in the air is a wrong move. Either knock it to the ground or catch it.
What is the over/under of McCarthy making it thru this season as Cowboys HC?
lol Iād love to be in the film study room when the coach realizes that the guy that tipped the ball to the Commanders was jawing with the crowd with his back turned to the field when the play started. Iām guessing Herm is right and heāll get fined or suspended for conduct detrimental to the team.
Denver v. Baltimore is getting ready to start. KC still has to play Denver twice and the Denver defense is number 1 in several categories. Oh yeah, and Bo Nix is playing pretty darn well. So, Bucs, then the Broncs; an interesting 8 days for KC. And the last day for trades is Tuesday.
Sounds like the Chiefs are still rumored to be looking for a WR and CB.
Crazy Denver play with Bo Nix catching a pass for TD
Denver got spanked pretty hard
Cowboys are 3-5 now
Will McCarthy be fired by Jerry
Jawaan Taylor restructured his contract to free up $5.5 million so the Chiefs could trade for Hopkins and Uche. He is playing much better this year with far fewer penalties. Of course, with LT position in chaos other teams probably made the Chief's left side the main point of attack.
@nuleafjhawk Jerry has been the issue since he got rid of Johnson. They probably win 4 or 5 super bowls in the 90s with him.
@kjayhawks I don't care what they do as long as they leave Andy Reid alone.
@nuleafjhawk aināt no chance in Hell Reid would go to that shit show. With his age Kansas City is likely his last stop. I hope itās still a few years away but I could a see him retiring if a 3 peat happens.
@kjayhawks I'd be ok with him retiring with a 3-peat. Yes, he definitely has my permission
I think the Colts should seriously consider playing Jason Bean. He was clearly their best QB in the preseason
Mahomes had a near perfect half, Worthy not knowing where he was on the field cost them 7 points 10-7 at the half
@kjayhawks Mahomes isn't as mobile as he used to be. He's been watching the game on his ass as much as I have tonight
@nuleafjhawk well they need to maybe try to block someone especially Vera. Dude has been a problem
The 3 peat may have just ended with Mahomes injured
@kjayhawks it's amazing that a guy that big can even move
@kjayhawks they're going to trade for Jason Bean and he will lead us to the promised land
It looked bad but I guess itās not lol, DHOP is a huge help
The chiefs are the exact opposite of KU at the end of games lol pretty ugly defense second half letting up 17 points but they have been great all year.
Nice to see a 291 yard with 3 TDs classic Mahomes game. I think when they get Smith-Schuster back it will help. Worthy has to work on catching the football and tapping his feet, had 2 tonight that shouldāve been caught. Hes got the speed just needs some more work.
Pat won one w/a bad ankle
Nuk is amazing. He catching everything. Itās such a nice option.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
Nuk is amazing. He catching everything. Itās such a nice option.
Took all of one week to start clicking with Pat. If they actually get Pacheco and Hollywood back for the playoffs oh boy
@kjayhawks That ball was underthrown, causing him to have to run backwards. PM and Worthy need to refresh their timing.
not seeing any trades by the Chiefs. hmmm. wonder if we somehow pick up a few additions?
@rockchalkjayhawk Xavien Howard is still out there. Pretty slim pickings after the trade deadline. Maybe a veteran will get released close to the end of the season.
@rockchalkjayhawk Mike Edwards was released if we want to bring back yet another former Chief.
Khalil Herbert, former KU RB, got traded by Beras. I did not realize he was still playing in the league.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Xavien Howard is still out there. Pretty slim pickings after the trade deadline. Maybe a veteran will get released close to the end of the season.
Never mind. I just saw the off field junk with Xavien Howard. Pass.
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk Mike Edwards was released if we want to bring back yet another former Chief.
Okay, scratch that. Expected to sign with Titans.
I hope the Chiefs end up the worst 20-0 team ever
The Ravens and Bengals are putting on a show. The ravens used a crown royal bag for inspiration for tonightās uniforms.
Uh oh. Butker hurt, headed to IR.
This left knee injury will require surgery, per Pelissero, as Butker will have an arthroscopic procedure to address the issue. The Chiefs made Butker the NFLās highest-paid kicker this offseason, re-signing him to a $6.4MM-per-year deal. While Butkerās long-term status is not in question, his availability for this yearās homestretch is.
As a result, the Chiefs plan to sign Spencer Shrader off the Jetsā practice squad, Pelissero adds.
This just in: Instead of relocating to a new stadium, Chiefs will stay at Arrowhead but they are changing their demand for renovations. Now they want Jackson County to pay half the costs of adding an orthopaedic surgical ward next to the home clubhouse.
Meniscus- should be back for the playoffs- maybe the last couple games as well. Just when they started to get healthier as a team too! - pop, juju, and Omenihu are practicing - juju should play.
Justin Tucker with two misses already today
Chiefs. See how many penalties they can get. Might be a record.
The amount of penalties in this game is ridiculous, refs want it under that 11 point spread seems pretty obvious at this point. Nice to see Patrick have a solid half 19/24 206 yards and 2 TDs. 3 of his 5 incompletions hit his receivers hands.
Not able to watch today
Looking at score card Bryce Young already has 177 throwing yards
Doing good, nothing easy, a lot of penalties, both ways
Taylor has got to go, he either get a penalty or beat on every single play.
Fork the Chiefs. They're done. I'll never watch them again. Overrated, overpaid punks
PI PI PI PI....
Quite possibly the worst the pass interference call in NFL history.
And the same exact play but no call
For the chiefs
How far can this new guy kick?
Yes he can!
@nuleafjhawk Youāve said that about both KU football and the Chiefs several times. Either put up or shut up
@kjayhawks it's my secret weapon. Duh
Hey, good for the new kicker! I was hoping he'd get early chances in case it came down to a game winner. and it did!
Boy, the Chiefs sure are living on the edge these days. that was a sloppy mess.
I wasnāt even remotely worried with that much time left. The defense has lost it edge and the offensive line is getting worse by the week it seems. The refs seems determined that the chiefs get all the tic tac calls against them and want to be sure they canāt be blamed
I cannot make of this team.
Are they living on the edge with eye on playoffs or are they not that good.
Although every opponent has their game with Chiefs circled as SB game.
Any update on Hollywood?
@AsadZ they have been playing pretty good teams outside of today but Young has turned a corner and panthers are much better than their record IMO. They are like KU basketball, theyāre going to get everyoneās best shot. Other teams are tired of hearing about them you can rest assured of that much.
Watching highlights of some games
Bears came so close but couldnāt finish in OT, Caleb held the ball just too long
Cowboys vs Commanders must have increased blood pressure of special teams coaches on both sides
Once again I am sad
@FarmerJayhawk I feel bad for Bears.
Its like Bears have an Omen, just can't get a W
@AsadZ @FarmerJayhawk will be interesting to see what the Bears do this offseason, feel like their typical course of action would be to fire everyone. But I honestly think continuity would do them some good.
NFC North is the strongest on the National side , you look we got Detroit 10-1 -Minnesota 9-2 - -and my GB Packers at 8-3- - -you best win every game or your gonna be toast.
I can't remember does the playoffs have 2 or 3 wild cards?- -I'm not sure if both wild cards could even come from the same division- I think it's two wild cards , you have your three division winners and then the two wild cards. Detroit is a handful
@kjayhawks gotta fire Eberflus. This group is way too talented to lose 5 in a row. Heās also on his second DC and third OC halfway through year 3. Itās just not working.
@SlimShaddy54 There are 3 wild cards, seeded 5, 6 and 7. They all play in the first round at the 3 lowest division winners (2, 3, 4) who are at home even if their W-L record is worse than the WC. 7 at 2, 6 at 3, 5 at 4. Top seed gets a bye, then plays the lowest seeded survivor of the 1st rd games.
No limit on how many WC teams come from any division. Just 3 best conference records after the div winners.
The Bears smh had the ball in field goal range to tie the game. Take a sack and lose 6 yards with 32 seconds to go. They fart around for 30 seconds to barely get the play off, which even if it was caught wasnāt getting the touchdown. Did all of this while sitting on a timeout smh just wow, they couldāve called a timeout and tried a 59 yarder to send it to OT.
One of the worst clock management to close the game
I feel really sorry for Bears players and fans, they deserved to win this game
Their coach messed this up really badly
Watching the Bears inept clock management made me realize how big of losers they are. That group will never win. Fire the coach and get someone to coach up Caleb - it is on the QB just as much as the coach in that moment so get him a good mentor. Losers making losing plays.
That was some entertaining game between Broncos and Browns last night.
Big play team!
Sounds like DJ Humphries is officially the staring left tackle on Sunday. Hope he can jump right back in and succeed!
The Chiefs just can't have anything nice lately.
Wide receiver Mecole Hardman ā who had been listed as questionable for Sundayās game after suddenly being held out of practice on Friday ā has been placed on the teamās Reserve/Injured list. He'll miss at least four games.
@rockchalkjayhawk bummer
Kadarius Toney just muffed a punt for his latest team, ending the Browns' last gasp attempt to come back against the Steelers.
People talking about the chiefs getting calls, Bills keeping a heart beat off of some weak sauce PI calls
This new offensive line isnāt looking good
@kjayhawks Humphries probably hasn't played in that amount of noise before. Be patient. Things'll get better.
In other news, we will have infinite energy and world peace by midnight!
Solid first half, nice to see the defense show up, they have been slacking recently.
Wouldnāt be the chiefs without some late game drama. Iāll give the chargers a ton of credit they executed a near flawless second half. Super gutsy performance by Mahomes, dude got lit up repeatedly as the offensive line continues to struggle. That last first down scrambling and finding Travis was textbook while bouncing off a tackler. I hope Humphries is alright and can continue to improve. 9 straight AFC west titles pretty nice to have. My son realized he has never seen a season with at least a divisional title.
Good thing the NFL made sure the Chiefs would win by sneaking into Arrowhead and greasing the top 10 feet of the left upright. The league will do ANYTHING!
So now that Eric bieniemy has been relived of his duties at UCLA, anyone want him back in KC? The offensive drop off after he left and Nagy returned is pretty evident.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
So now that Eric bieniemy has been relived of his duties at UCLA, anyone want him back in KC? The offensive drop off after he left and Nagy returned is pretty evident.
Seemed like we did nothing but complain about him when he was here? We all asked who was actually calling the plays. I dunno. If it helps, sure.
@kjayhawks we're bringing back everyone else. Let's do it. Be warned though - the games will be boring, winning by 20 instead of 2.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
So now that Eric bieniemy has been relieved of his duties at UCLA, anyone want him back in KC?
I'd rather get a new training and strength coach. Most of our injuries, it seems, have come in practice. How do 2 kickers on one team suffer IR-level injuries in practice? Why so many hamstrings?
Seems like the stretching and flexibility regimen might need some upgrading at least!
@Crimsonorblue22 Apparently Humphries just strained his hammie, not torn. Reid says he is out of practice but not actually officially declaring him out: "we'll see how he does."
One article says he will skip Cleveland but be ready to play Houston next week.
Donovan Smith has again sent out a "Hello? I'm here" type of tweet indicating his availability.
Big week here for chiefs, Steelers are playing the Eagles and the Bills the Lions. If the chiefs can handle the browns on the road and get wins from the Eagles and Lions they will be felling great about the #1. I think with all the injuries and starting to play 3 games in a 10 day stretch today. Getting that extra week off would be huge. The NFL that supposedly loves the chiefs, did them zero favors this schedule and an early bye week.
Another elite game by the defense and the offensive line finally got Mahomes hurt. At some point it has to be man up and do your job. Block the guy across from you
I was unable to watch Chiefs game today.
With so many Browns TOs it seems Chiefs left points off.
Any word on Mahomes injury and recovery timeline
Iām hoping Lions get W against Bills today
His ankle is NOT broke.
Hey, a win is a win. Iāll take it!
Saved by turnovers. That was crazy. So many.
Gotta question some weird play calling and also decisions by Mahomes today.
On the play Mahomes got hurt especially. Why the hell was he dorking around in the pocket? That should have been a split second slant to a TE for a first down. Donāt get that play call nor execution. Injured for no reason!
I hope both he and Kelce are ok.
The play calling was atrocious, they tried so very hard to get the deep ball going. Which was silly because it resulted in Mahomes getting lit up every other play. Nagy has to go at this point. They need to get back to quick outs and slants with this line.
Seems others arenāt so happy with Big Andy and offensive play calling.
Guess I'm just an old worry wert. -Was worried my Packers was gonna lose against Seattle last night at Seattle- - not to worry , they play well 5 30-13. Mercy that place was loud - -well for about the first quarter and a half -- then not so much.
What really surprised me was when the Pack scored our first TD, it sounded like there was as many Packer fans there as SeaHawk fans --Did a really good job of pressure on the QB last night had seven sacks
The Chiefs finally waived CEH today.
@rockchalkjayhawk I hate it for him but it is a business in the end and the chiefs canāt keep paying him
@kjayhawks That move frees up 66k in cap space. The rest of his 1 year contract was guaranteed. It wasnāt about money, they need the roster spot.
@NotHim said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks That move frees up 66k in cap space. The rest of his 1 year contract was guaranteed. It wasnāt about money, they need the roster spot.
Either way as I said a business move
Do Chiefs play Mahomes if he is not 100% or go with Wentz
I say rest him and let Wentz play
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
Do Chiefs play Mahomes if he is not 100% or go with Wentz
I say rest him and let Wentz play
Seems like the most winnable game we have left?
Tough call, but I say play him. Reduce that magic number for No 1 seed as quickly as possible.
Not that it matters, heās playing anyway!
Dang, Chiefs and Jayhawks on at the same time again. Well, overlapping at least.
Oh jeez. Just realizing the Jayhawks have an actual Sunday game!
Weird, but better ;)
If the chiefs play their butts off today and Christmas, they can take off almost 3 weeks
Both games tomorrow are on Netflix
Streaming action
Netflix? No kidding? wow. Times are a changin.
Both games? Chiefs r on.
My Green Bay boys did ok last night. won 34-0- - over the Saints. They mentioned last night if GB wins out the NFC North will have three tteams with a 13 win Season- Think of being 13-4 and having to play your first playoff game on the road -crazy
@Crimsonorblue22 Other game is Ravens vs Texans
Below from USA Today:
Streaming: Netflix; NFL+ (on mobile devices)
TV channel (local, in-market fans only):
Baltimore: WJZ-TV (Channel 13)
Houston: KHOU (Channel 11)
Kansas City: KCTV (Channel 5)
Pittsburgh: KDKA-TV (Channel 2)
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
Below from USA Today:
Streaming: Netflix; NFL+ (on mobile devices)
TV channel (local, in-market fans only):
Baltimore: WJZ-TV (Channel 13)
Houston: KHOU (Channel 11)
Kansas City: KCTV (Channel 5)
Pittsburgh: KDKA-TV (Channel 2)
If this streaming event is anything like the last Netflix live events, be prepared!
For the tech geeks in the crowd: https://cordcuttersnews.com/netflixs-recent-live-streaming-stumbles-raise-concerns-ahead-of-todays-nfl-games/ ā
Wow, totally surprisingā¦I am looking all over my Netflix and canāt even find anything that says thereās an NFL game happening soon. Amazon has it plastered all over the place for TNF!
That was a nice drive but point after damn
What did Worthy do?
@rockchalkjayhawk took lifted part of shirt and showed stomach
Nice drive
D is looking good
Pass rush is solid even without Jones
Offense is starting to roll
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
@rockchalkjayhawk took lifted part of shirt and showed stomach
Hmmm. Ok. Weird. Didnāt look like much.
Pick! Nice work D.
@rockchalkjayhawk I thought he was showing his tattoo not sure.
This defense can be next level if they continue to create turnovers
Really wish we could get the run game going
Last two drives kind of stalled a bit
Damn
Bad penalty on Taylor
Penalties are hurting today
More penaltiesā¦.
Need to score here! Isn't kelce's next Td a record?
6 here and all the pressure switches to them
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How bad is Jones calf?
Gonzalez said he'd pay the fine
I hope Pat got the ball for him!
Nice to see Travis and Patrick getting back to their groove here before the playoffs. Mahomes 27/35 304 yards and 3 TDs classic line for him. Kelce 7 catches for 75 yards and a TD. Offensive line has arguably played their best game of the season today. Still a little concerned with the run game.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
Gonzales said he'd pay the fine
To me thatās asinine thatās itās a penalty to pay homage to a guys record you just broke. Not sure what is different in doing the dunk compared to dancing
This why the No fun league, itās Christmas let the boys play. Giving some thumbs down is now a flag what a bunch a horse shit. Keep these zebraās Pittsburgh pansyās
Playing 3 in 11 days is crazy too! Hoping Pacheco doesn't have broken or bruised ribs
The next question is do you play starters at all in Denver? You hate to lose this momentum you have built these last few weeks but donāt want to risk any injuries. Maybe play them for a quarter? 26 days to the divisional round thatās a long time to get rusty.
Rest them
Meaningless game
That was an amazing win
On the road
Rest them! Awesome robes or coats or whatever. Cake in fb? Dumb idea!
I think our backups have been playing as starters
Mahomes, Jones, Kelce, Bolton, Hollywood, Hunt, Trenton M, Reid
They should all rest
Perhaps some others
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Season:
Gonzales said he'd pay the fine
To me thatās asinine thatās itās a penalty to pay homage to a guys record you just broke. Not sure what is different in doing the dunk compared to dancing
I think knowing you will get penalized makes it more meaningful and memorable.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
The next question is do you play starters at all in Denver? You hate to lose this momentum you have built these last few weeks but donāt want to risk any injuries. Maybe play them for a quarter? 26 days to the divisional round thatās a long time to get rusty.
Doesn't Andy Reid typically rest players once KC has locked in their playoff seed?
@Texas-Hawk-10 yes!
@Texas-Hawk-10 he has in the past for sure itās just a little different this year with the amount of days between now and a game that matters.
@Crimsonorblue22 actually I liked it
I thought it was cool
@kjayhawks with the brutal schedule they have played and knowing that bye was only after week 5 I would give them extra rest and let them get back to practice week before playoff game
This will provide physical and mental rest
@Texas-Hawk-10 yes
Thatās how he operates
@Crimsonorblue22 itās not too bad from what I can tell but they did not want to take any chance before playoffs
I think Chiefs pass rush was very good even without Jones
Pete Carroll has showed interest in Bears HC job.
He will be a solid candidate in my opinion.
Bengals vs Broncos was one incredible game last night
Some unbelievable catches
If the bengals make the playoffs does Burrow get MVP?
@kjayhawks Should be very much in the conversation
After watching the Broncos beat the chiefs Sunday and act like they just won the game of the century. I really hope they beat the Bills this week. All the chiefs starters watched them run up the score and act like fools Sunday. I like the idea of Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, George Karlaudas, Trent Mcduffie and co being a little extra motivated.
Ah, yea. the Chiefs played Sunday! I didn't get to watch, but i saw the score.
I guess the key takeaway was that LT Humphries didn't shine?
@kjayhawks I'm not convinced that sitting the starters Sunday was a great idea. They get out of sync, out of rhythm. Plus they get a bye game. Chiefs lose big in their next game. Take it to the bank. Like Mahomes' paycheck
@nuleafjhawk Iām not sure if it was or wasnāt at this point, I suppose we will find out in a few weeks. I will say a couple things that Iām thinking are good. Since Patrick Mahomes became a starter the chiefs have played 18, yes 18 playoff games. That is a game more than an entire extra season and more than anyone else by I believe 7 games. So I think getting these 3 weeks off will be huge for their bodies personally. I highly doubt they are all laying around drinking bud light during this time frame. Iām sure they are doing some light conditioning and some practicing. To start the season no oneās says hey these guy have to remember how to play football the first few weeks before they know what they are doing again. They are professionals they donāt work at jiffy lube on Tuesdays and Thursdays to keep busy. They are all football all the time most of them even in the offseason.
A game Mahomes plays 4 quarters in is very unlikely to be a loss, much less a blowout loss. 80% QBWinz stat lol - take it to the bank 80% of the time.
Chiefs didn't play defensived game plan they will use in playoffs. Reid and players said it was essentially a preseason "basic vanilla" defensive plan. And the Chiefs were 0-4 in preseason. DJ wasn't very good but didn't have the first string OL in most of his time.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
They are all football all the time most of them even in the offseason.
I think you're a pretty good guy (gal?) and I'm not being argumentative but I got a chuckle out of this - "They are all football all the time most of them even in the offseason."
They may not be drinking Bud Light, but they are definitely not thinking strictly about football. State Farm Insurance, Whataburger, KC Royals, Sporting KC, whatever the women's soccer team is, these are the things they are thinking about. The money makers.
@nuleafjhawk mahomes is trying to heal up his bad ankle. You did know he was injured? Most of the guys that sat out were injured.
@nuleafjhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks I'm not convinced that sitting the starters Sunday was a great idea. They get out of sync, out of rhythm. Plus they get a bye game. Chiefs lose big in their next game. Take it to the bank. Like Mahomes' paycheck
The Chiefs won the Super Bowl resting Mahomes last season and went to the Super Bowl in 2023 after resting starters the final week.
@Kcmatt7 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@nuleafjhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks I'm not convinced that sitting the starters Sunday was a great idea. They get out of sync, out of rhythm. Plus they get a bye game. Chiefs lose big in their next game. Take it to the bank. Like Mahomes' paycheck
The Chiefs won the Super Bowl resting Mahomes last season and went to the Super Bowl in 2023 after resting starters the final week.
Nuttin wrong with resting the players IMO. Long ass season. Mahomes hurt, etc. Rest will be a good thing. However, that Broncos score was painful regardless. I would have hoped for more from the team, however many backups were playing. an NFL shutout? Practically unheard of.
@Kcmatt7 it's just my opinion. They're going to have 3 weeks (?) off. Practice is not like full contact, game situation football. I don't know that I'm the Patrick Mahomes of what I do, but I'm really good at my job. After a two week vacation, I'm worthless for a while. It takes time to get back into "game mode".
I hope I'm wrong. I hope they're rested and healthy and kick butt. But I won't be surprised if they don't.
@nuleafjhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@Kcmatt7 it's just my opinion. They're going to have 3 weeks (?) off. Practice is not like full contact, game situation football. I don't know that I'm the Patrick Mahomes of what I do, but I'm really good at my job. After a two week vacation, I'm worthless for a while. It takes time to get back into "game mode".
I hope I'm wrong. I hope they're rested and healthy and kick butt. But I won't be surprised if they don't.
Okay but using your own analogy they arenāt even off of work. They didnāt all go vacation in Cancun for 3 weeks. There is still structure they are adhering to.
I trust Andy Reid to keep team together and ready to play in the playoffs
The fact that we are catching flak for resting our starters in a meaningless (for us) week 17 game proves two things
We live rent free in other fanbases heads to an unprecedented degree
NFL fans are VERY stupid.
Resting your starters on the last week when you have nothing to play for is standard practice and has NEVER been controversial. I don't even think the nationally hated Patriots were ever criticized for it in the 2010s. I guess we are now the greatest villains in football history BWAHAHA
@Jhawk69 said in 2024 NFL Season:
The fact that we are catching flak for resting our starters in a meaningless (for us) week 17 game proves two things
We live rent free in other fanbases heads to an unprecedented degree
NFL fans are VERY stupid.
Resting your starters on the last week when you have nothing to play for is standard practice and has NEVER been controversial. I don't even think the nationally hated Patriots were ever criticized for it in the 2010s. I guess we are now the greatest villains in football history BWAHAHA
Every team in the league has more or less done this historically as well. Very selective outrage and/or people have short memories.
I listened to the New Heights podcast the other day and all the people yaking about the chiefs throwing the game has pissed off Kelce pretty hardcore. If yall remember the great playoffs he had last season after a very average regular season. Itās about to happen again I think. He has been saving himself for big games in this stage of his career. Everyone just keep talking and adding fuel to the fire. The chiefs are about ready to be rested and healthier than they been all year.
I think the Steelers are silly for benching Fields Iām sorry but Wilson is way past his prime and made some very silly decisions tonight. A guy has to wonder if he has played his final game as a starter in the NFL
How about Chargers melting down in Houston.
4 INTs for Herbert.
Well unfortunately I think my boys Season comes to the end today.- -We got the task of playing Philly in Philly ( 14- 3 ) @ 3:30 .
We played them the 1st game of the year and lost 34 --29, just a bad match up- -Hurts is playing- And the stud RB more then anything, just don't think we are stopping him- -I think he finished right at 2,000 yards rushing didn't he ?
Think it would just have to be out scoring them in a slug fest even though Josh Jacobs has been really good for us I just don't feel without Watson & not sure about Dobbs - -two key receivers - -Watson for sure ACL -Afraid I'm going to have to say we probably get beat by two TD'S- -Welp there is always next year lol
Good one going in Buffalo.
Denver has found its QB in Bo Nix.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Season:
How about Chargers melting down in Houston.
4 INTs for Herbert.
2025 AFC West offseason champs! Iām declaring it now to get ahead of the media. lol the hype is real!!!
Great game in Philly, Stafford almost pulled out magic but a sack sealed his fate
Maybe the Bears have a coach at long last. @FarmerJayhawk What do you think?
To elaborate a bit. Both risky and smart to not go the retread route. McCarthy isnāt winning in the playoffs. Carol is good, but a pretty short term option. Other known options were less appealing. Iād say it was a good hire.
Kelce went out and bought a 3.3 million dollar house to help for homeless kids have a place to stay - - this coming off his 46 million contract extension --Some people DO STILL CARE Thank you Travis
@SlimShaddy54 if he really cared, he'd buy ME a 3.3 million dollar house. Somewhere warm
Jk - that's great
@nuleafjhawk ya I wish someone could or would do that for me also lol. Yes it's good to see we as a people some anyways do still have some compassion
@wissox said in 2024 NFL Season:
@dylans I think Caleb Williams hired him actually from what it appears.
Iām stoked! Dennis Allen as DC is a really smart play as well. He flamed out as a HC but is a really good coordinator.
@FarmerJayhawk Yeah, I think we can start to dream of better days.
TD KC!š
Eat up the clock, TD KC šā¤ļøš
I feel like the chiefs should be up much more here two dropped picks and the bills fumbled twice with no turnovers. Go get 7 to start the half
Tough loss. 0-1 what's next?
That was an amazing play by Cook there
@BShark said in 2024 NFL Season:
Tough loss. 0-1 what's next?
If you can see the future, please speak up sooner so I can secure my future with a few wagers :)
It may just be the bills night 5 fumbles zero lost
Mahomes šŖšŖ running today, letās go defense
What a run QB!ā¤ļøššš«¶
Bills and Chiefs playoff game are all great
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Season:
@BShark said in 2024 NFL Season:
Tough loss. 0-1 what's next?
If you can see the future, please speak up sooner so I can secure my future with a few wagers :)
Making fun of Tang
It might not be the Bills night! Wahoo! Never give up on the Chiefs!ā¤ļøššš«¶š„š»
Super Bowl!
Defense wasnāt great today by any stretch but they made a few key stops when they had too. Barkley is gonna be a tough match up but gonna have a chance for a 3-peat. At least we have the chiefs here in Jayhawk land
I really like Josh Allen. His only real flaw is being born at the wrong time. Mahomes is robbing his legacy. Iām ok with it, just sayinā
I think the bills will want that one back when they watch the film. Cook was phenomenal averaging 6.5 yards per carry and 2 touchdowns. One was all effort on his part. I think they tried to force the ball throwing and were lucky Allen didnāt have at least 2 picks. I think the defense letting up 29 and the Eagles scoring 55 will have them laser focus before the big game. Andy Reid maybe cement his place as one of if not the best coach in NFL history if they can get one more in a few weeks.
@MoonwalkMafia Two bad ass teams dueling it out. Fun game.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
I really like Josh Allen. His only real flaw is being born at the wrong time. Mahomes is robbing his legacy. Iām ok with it, just sayinā
There are so many great QBs right now IMO. Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, Goff and Daniels is looking pretty dang good. I just hate the Allen to Mahomes comparison. Allen has zero MVPs, All Pros and SB victories. The comparison should be dead until Josh gets something going in the post season. As I said above he was very fortunate today he didnāt have 2 picks and 2 lost fumbles.
@kjayhawks - MVP will likely be either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson this year.
Josh has been knocked out of the playoffs 4 times by Mahomes in his 6 years. Thatās a pretty strong C Block. Once by Brady too - not too shabby. Allen may break thru or he may not, but he is a very good quarterback. - Iād take him over anyone not named Mahomes currently (but Jayden Daniels is rapidly growing on me).
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks - MVP will likely be either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson this year.
Josh has been knocked out of the playoffs 4 times by Mahomes in his 6 years. Thatās a pretty strong C Block. Once by Brady too - not too shabby. Allen may break thru or he may not, but he is a very good quarterback. - Iād take him over anyone not named Mahomes currently (but Jayden Daniels is rapidly growing on me).
IMO Barkley should be the MVP with how he has played in the postseason. Itās basically turning into whomever the AP thinks has the best year at QB. Which if you go off of number itās Burrow over Jackson and Allen
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
I really like Josh Allen. His only real flaw is being born at the wrong time. Mahomes is robbing his legacy. Iām ok with it, just sayinā
4 of his last 5 playoff losses being to KC is insane. You can tell it's effected him too. Looked dejected on the sideline.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Season:
I really like Josh Allen. His only real flaw is being born at the wrong time. Mahomes is robbing his legacy. Iām ok with it, just sayinā
There are so many great QBs right now IMO. Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, Goff and Daniels is looking pretty dang good.
GOFF?????? I think he's much more of a purgatory QB than a great.
I will never be able to prove it, but I believe that Josh Allen could have and would have taken down Tom Brady in the playoffs multiple times and won multiple super bowls had their careers overlapped more.
@kjayhawks No one will agree with me on this but they really should make three different, equally prestigious MVP awards: one for a QB, one for a non-QB offensive player, and one for a defensive player.
An elite QB will always make the most positive impact of a single player. Having the third or 4th best QB is a way better asset than having the best RB in the league. So it makes sense that the best QB deserves MVP. But also, the best non QB offensive player or the best defensive player deserve credit, especially in cases where they might be better at their job than any QB in the league, even if their job isn't as important as the job of a QB.
Josh Allen had a fantastic year and should get MVP.
@Jhawk69 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks No one will agree with me on this but they really should make three different, equally prestigious MVP awards: one for a QB, one for a non-QB offensive player, and one for a defensive player.
An elite QB will always make the most positive impact of a single player. Having the third or 4th best QB is a way better asset than having the best RB in the league. So it makes sense that the best QB deserves MVP. But also, the best non QB offensive player or the best defensive player deserve credit, especially in cases where they might be better at their job than any QB in the league, even if their job isn't as important as the job of a QB.
They already have this - MVP - (best player almost always QB), Offensive Player of the Year (usually best non QB offensive player - Barkley)- , and Defensive Player of the Year (best defensive player). Generally no one cares outside of MVP and Super Bowl MVP though.
@Jhawk69 said in 2024 NFL Season:
@kjayhawks No one will agree with me on this but they really should make three different, equally prestigious MVP awards: one for a QB, one for a non-QB offensive player, and one for a defensive player.
An elite QB will always make the most positive impact of a single player. Having the third or 4th best QB is a way better asset than having the best RB in the league. So it makes sense that the best QB deserves MVP. But also, the best non QB offensive player or the best defensive player deserve credit, especially in cases where they might be better at their job than any QB in the league, even if their job isn't as important as the job of a QB.
I disagree a little bit with your logic of QBs and RBs. I think the eagles this season are the prime example. Hurts is a top 10 QB in this league arguably top 5. Barkley is the best running back this season no question. They have ridden his coattails to the SB they aināt getting there with an average running back. NFL defenses have changed the last few seasons to where they have shifted focus to stop the passing game. I feel like thatās part of the reason Barkley has been great. The league is always flowing back and forth. I feel like every decade it goes to RBs are not important at all and then everyone runs a Tampa 2 style of defense shuts down the passing. Then running backs are important again the next decade, the cycle just goes back and forth. The only eagles player that worries me is Barkley.
@kjayhawks Some validity to this but not completely sold
Jalen literally made the Super Bowl without saquon at rb. Saquon has been ridiculous this year but if they have a decent rb I still think they make it.
Go through the Super Bowl champs and check out those rb names
I agree the position is coming back because of the defensive tendencies like you stated so there is some validity but unless you have Saquon or Gibbs it doesnāt change much.
Give me a top qb and a defense all day over an above average qb and the best rb
Weāve seen the Niners with Mccaffrey and plenty of other examples
All that to say I think the eagles win 34-21
Their d line is gonna eat, their secondary with the Iowa product is legit and there is no way that we slow down saquon without Jalen hurting us. If James cook can carve the D up and mixon before himā¦. Barkley gonna destroy us on the ground
@kuballin10 I didn't really watch NFL football until around 2010 so I can't comment on Brady's entire career. But my take has always been that he is a very good QB but not necessarily better than other greats who have fewer super bowls. For instance, I would argue that Drew Brees is as good as TB if not a little better, but that TB with an elite defense is obviously going to get better results than Brees with a bad defense.
The GOAT debate is such a tough one with how much sports have changed over the years. Iām fine for Tom to be considered the GOAT at this point. The stars all had to align first him to do so. The AFC East was such a crap division for so long. The jets havenāt been relevant in my live time, the Dolphins and Bills are good teams now but took a long break after Jim Kelly and Dan Marino respectively retired. He had one of if not the best defenses in the nfl for most of his years as a starter. The last 2 super wins his defense only allowed a combined 12 points and just about every starter QB that season couldāve won it for them. His passing records are a little inflated because he played much longer. I believe he has like 38 more starts than anyone else in the top 5. Much like LeBrons scoring record. Congrats you played several seasons longer. To be the goat IMO you have to do something thatās never been done before in a relative timeframe and/or change the game. Hence LeBron will never be my goat.
Itās my understanding that the Chiefs have a big game to play Sunday!
Three-peat possible?
@rockchalkWho told you that crap ?- - -- LIARS - -LMAO
I really thought they snubbed Reid for coach of the year and Barkley for MVP. Congrats to Josh Allen 4th best QB statistically and wins MVP.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Season:
I really thought they snubbed Reid for coach of the year and Barkley for MVP. Congrats to Josh Allen 4th best QB statistically and wins MVP.
I donāt normally pay too much attention to those awards, but the choices this year seemed odd for sure. But I heard the Allen MVP chat for a lot of the season.
@rockchalkjayhawk ya I just think itās ludicrous what the MVP has turned into, basically just a popularity contest of the top QBs in the league. You look at what Reid was able to accomplish this season and he got snubbed hard core.
I look at what the chiefs did and the obstacles they overcame and if Andy is fortunate enough to pull it off tomorrow it should be recognized as one of the greatest coaching jobs in NFL history.
Top 2 running backs coming into the season: Pop and CEH. CEH had his PTSD issues and didnāt play a snap. Pop broke his ankle and missed 75% of the year. They sign Perine a guy that didnāt make the broncos and Hunt mid season from the couch that couldnāt make the browns.
WR same story top 2 guys going into the season Brown is hurt first snap of preseason and Rice early in the year with an ACL. They sign JuJu whom was cut from the Patriots early in camp and have Hardman who was cut last season by Jets.
Defensively and special teams wise also had there fair share of injuries. Including Watson who is their second best defensive back in coverage. Charles Omenihu, Mike Dana, Jack Cockrane and Kicker Harrison Butker.
After all of that all the team did against a top 5 SOS was win their 7th straight divisional title, 7th straight AFC Championship appearance and have the best regular season record in Kansas City Chiefs history. All while getting everyones best shot hoping they could shut down the 3 peat truly remarkable.
Yea, I honestly donāt get very interested in the awards and MVPs. All a mystery to me how they choose and why.
The MVP is narrative driven - and Josh is very deserving. He lost his top receiver, analysts were doubting he would be able to do much calling it a rebuilding year. And he put up MVP worthy numbers with a weaker supporting cast.
Reid canāt really defy expectations. It sucks, but he wonāt win for that reason. Heās expected to lead the team to the SB, anything less would be a failure. - seems like the definition of coach of the year. But voters are silly that way.
@dylans I think Josh has a better WR core than Mahomes had for much of the season. Just hard to comprehend a guy thatās 14th in pass yards, 7th in passing touchdowns and 24th in completion percentage getting MVP. Only stat he led the league in is QBR. Looking at the criteria you could say Mahomes got snubbed for along with a dozen other starters. Burrow was the best passer and Lamar was the best of passing and rushing by a very wide margin. Mahomes you could say after watching Wentz was pretty damn important to the chiefs.
What I like about Reid and Mahomes is that they don't give a crap about those awards. Very few can get to a level where individual accolades mean nothing because they perennially lead their teams to the highest level in the game.
I'm a bit surprised all our Chicken Littles haven't already screamed that Andy Reid can't adjust to the modern game and should be fired.
@mayjay has Bill Self made the Final Four or NC game 5 of the last 7 years? He lost in the first weekend 5 of 7 years when we do this year. Seems like a pretty baseless argument to logically thinking folks. If Andy loses in the wildcard round 5 of the next 7 years. Plenty of the kingdom will be saying Andy itās time to hang it up.
@kjayhawks Self has won 2 titles, only one less than Reid, and has done so in a sport with 10 times as many teams and 5 times as many in the playoffs. All while having guaranteed 100% roster turnover every few years at most, and without a draft process that guarantees entitlement to 7 of the top 250 players from colleges who prepare players for the pro's. And without having an owner's hundreds of millions of dollars available--actually, required--to spend on salaries while having only an arbitrarily limited staff.
Both face one constant: fans who are oh-so-certain they know everything.
@mayjay I think the NCAA tournament is the hardest title to win in all of sports but the NIL ordeal makes the two closer than they ever have been. If you want better guys you can go buy them without have to worry about a salary cap in a sense. But saying that Self has had the same recent success as Reid just isnāt factual by any stretch of imagination.
@kjayhawks Title in '22 seems pretty recent, especially considering the '20 team that many considered likely to win before covid cancelled it all. But sure, two years not as good means those were just flukes.