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Jeff Grimes, despite making millions of dollars to call plays, lacks the wherewithal to understand that feeding a running back who is averaging 7 yards a carry is more efficient than throwing with a quarterback who is averaging 4 yards a pass (and an interception every 10 passes). This lack of basic sense cost us one game already. Obviously, he will not get fired because of one bad game. But what if he costs us our next couple matchups? Might he get the can?

I am hoping he can learn from this one and move on.

Also LL to step in and have more say on critical downs during games.

The Season IF they do , It wasn't Grimes that cost that game, there was A LOT of hands in the pot for that. Devin Neal even mentioned in post game, that we can't afford to start taking games for granted --- that we aren't there yet, and some guys thought that. - -Grimes might have played a part even though Coach has the final say on Calls - -he doesn't like the call he can nix it.- - You don't fire your OC after two games-- - just like you don't yank JD after two games. The same people that JD was the All Mighty God are now wanting him yanked after two game. Some people are beyond funny. -Come on for Christ sakes the sky isn't falling. Disappointing-- -YES - -Oh Whoa is me scenario - -UMM NO

I don’t think there’s any world in where he’s actually canned. If things keep going poorly I could see Z getting playcalling duties. After all we’d still need a TE Coach

Since Lance is ultimately the guy who gets the blame/credit I was wondering what role he has in a situation like that? I mean if it's my team I'm screaming into the radio 'I don't care what Jeff said, run the ball!'. Do head coaches do that?

Just trying to understand what the OC does. Is his IPad telling him in this situation run this play? Does he look at matchups and say this will work? Trying to figure why what seems so obvious to so many fans about that game wasn't obvious to him? Have media types been critical of his play calling? Anyone have links?

Wonder if if it will sell out Friday, wasn’t last time we played there.

Do we know for a fact more runs weren’t called and then audibled to pass after getting a read of the defense’s set? They were packing the box so switching to pass was probably technically the right call lots of times even if situationally it was dumb because JD didn’t have it that game. But if you are JD, you can’t be thinking that way. How much license does he get to make adjustments on the fly? Legitimately curious about this.

@wissox said in How many games does Jeff Grimes have to cost us before he gets fired?:

Since Lance is ultimately the guy who gets the blame/credit I was wondering what role he has in a situation like that? I mean if it's my team I'm screaming into the radio 'I don't care what Jeff said, run the ball!'. Do head coaches do that?

Just trying to understand what the OC does. Is his IPad telling him in this situation run this play? Does he look at matchups and say this will work? Trying to figure why what seems so obvious to so many fans about that game wasn't obvious to him? Have media types been critical of his play calling? Anyone have links?

pretty much what your saying lat I kne is correct. HC always has the right to kill Grimes call, having he last word. He can always say NOPE not running this now -- here is what we are running

@kjayhawks it was definitely sold out, but there were some no shows for sure

@FarmerJayhawk ya Labor Day weekend may have been some of that

@kjayhawks oh yeah. And being hot as hell and that area just sucks in general

@benshawks08 I think you’re right and it is likely that we had guys in favorable matchups and JD missed.But it was clear early JD didn’t have it and sometimes you just have to run the ball.

You hand the ball off to Devin Neal 3rd and 3 when you have a must-have first down.

As long as JD bounces back this team is still a threat to win the B12. Was definitely more disappointed with JD than play calling probably.

@FarmerJayhawk I actually like the area just don’t like the parking lol

@Kcmatt7 I was as enthusiastic as anyone about the 2024 KU football season, but after the first two games I can't see where we'll finish any better than middle of the pack.

JD's interceptions weren't anomalies, they were stupid plays. Everything about that game was stupid. When you average 7 yards per carry.......hmm. Run it.

I hope I'm wrong.

I honestly was a little disappointed in Grimes media session. He said Illinois disguised their defense better than anyone he had ever seen before. We moved the ball down the field fine maybe try running it on 3rd and short in plus territory in the 4th quarter with a lead.

@kjayhawks I can totally understand Grimes saying that. I mean, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State and others probably each have a team of coaches studying what makes Illinois's defense so much better than everyone else's.

@nuleafjhawk just when I thought maybe I was being a little hard on him that comes out and I shake my head thinking it could be a very very long season.

@kjayhawks lol. Hopefully it was attributed to him and not an actual quote.

Totally redeemed himself!

Can we change the name of this to crap on Jeff Grimes thread lmao. I’d say either he gets canned Monday or JD isn’t starting next week

@kjayhawks Grimes is doing extremely well crapping on himself

Can we get the old guy back? Any donors in the house?

@kjayhawks Done and done

I want to see Cole Ballard start next week.

LL in postgame says we are sticking with JD smh

Apparently on the radio call, Bmac was calling for Ballard

@Jhawk69 said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@kjayhawks Done and done

And DONE DONE DONE

@kjayhawks said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

Apparently on the radio call, Bmac was calling for Ballard

Daniels is all fucked up - - just a shell , no confidence, they were calling for Ballard--not sure he is the answer.--Do w have a Answer ? -Hell right now Marshall is as good as any, Last week I tried sticking up for Daniels---his week there IS NO EXCUSE

@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@kjayhawks Grimes is doing extremely well crapping on himself

Daniels leading Grimes by a mile

@kjayhawks said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

Can we change the name of this to crap on Jeff Grimes thread lmao. I’d say either he gets canned Monday or JD isn’t starting next week

It's More Daniels making shit decisions pathetic no eccuse

I would put Ballard, let JD sit and reflect to get his confidence back.

He is thinking too much which is exacerbating his issues.

This HS coach is more innovative than Grimes!

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Badass trick play!!!

@jayballer67 maybe he's just following Grimes' directions?

With last two games one has seen Grimes inability to adjust during games.

KU was unstoppable in first half but Unlv made D adjustments however Grimes was unable to make any adjustments and kept doing the same thing.

@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@jayballer67 maybe he's just following Grimes' directions?

just sayin to easy to try and make Grimes the scape goat- might be part of problem but by far is not THE PROBLEM, Jalen making way to many terrible reads - -- forcing , underthrowing , overthrowing - just not good QB play, and sd to say this is just not one of those situations where you can't afford to continue- - JD has got to step up

Does anyone have an informed opinion about whether switching to Ballard right now would give us a better chance of winning or not?

Kansas has a huge QB problem.

@approxinfinity if all we do is lose (the Jr High team we played first doesn't count...) then you can put in Ballard or the janitor at the YMCA and it wouldn't make any difference

@approxinfinity said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

Does anyone have an informed opinion about whether switching to Ballard right now would give us a better chance of winning or not?

Last year is way too long ago for me to remember!

2023 stats. 4 games, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 55% completions, 115 passer rating, 75 yards rushing.

@rockchalkjayhawk yeah, i mean, i’m just wondering if switching to Ballard is giving up our chances of righting the ship. First half Daniels was great until the last minute INT. I would bet on him getting his head straight being our highest ceiling still, and also our safest bet. So… dont start him and bring him in if Ballard falls flat?

@approxinfinity said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk yeah, i mean, i’m just wondering if switching to Ballard is giving up our chances of righting the ship. First half Daniels was great until the last minute INT. I would bet on him getting his head straight being our highest ceiling still, and also our safest bet. So… dont start him and bring him in if Ballard falls flat?

To me, JD's intelligence and decision making seem like low points.

I just get the overcompensation vibe right now from him, too. He just looks like he has fake confidence. maybe after a long time off? Maybe still hiding or recovering from his back injury?

Dude's been playing college ball for 4 years now, so something weird is happening.

I don't think we know enough about Ballard to make the call, but he seemed at least capable in limited views.

I can't believe I'm typing this or talking about, BUT as crazy as it sounds it's true

Believe it or not in the overall Grand Scheme of tings these two losses doesn't kill our year , our goals . -The real Season starts next week with West Virginia. Yes I know crazy to even bring up right now, but IF somehow w get these play calls, this QB situation straightened out - -we can still reach those goals-- Win the Big 12 Championship, would have to go on an crazy streak but it can be done with our schedule. If we can get this JD crap straightened out- - it can be done. Our defense is playing well enough to do their - -It'd crazy BUT it can happen

I think next week is a bowl elimination game. WVU had an easy schedule last season and people were pretty high on them to give Penn State a game and beat Pitt. Neither of which happened and they sit at 1-2 with us. I don’t have the numbers but I bet the odds of making a bowl after a 1-3 start are very slim. Maybe JD just needs to go back to Morgantown, where he claimed a new era of KU football had begun after a win in 2022.

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@wissox I don't tweet. Brief synopsis? KU Sucks ???

@nuleafjhawk I thought you could see the tweet without an account. The meme had Jalen now receiving NIL money from Pepperidge Farms for their turnovers.

@wissox I was told that JD has the worst passer rating in college football in attempts more than 15 yards down field. The ESPN Wichita guys pretty much spent the whole segment laughing at Jeff Grimes and JD. I have to agree with them also bringing up how if KU can’t win this season returning all the talent they did, how in the hell will they win next season?

@kjayhawks well JD will be gone and I’ve been reliably informed he’s the worst QB we’ve ever had, kicks puppies, and causes global warming so just from that you should see improvement if the commentariat is to be believed

The real answer is ABC: always be cruitin. The portal will be our bff come January

@FarmerJayhawk haha sadly I’d take Montell Cozart over him at this point.

To add to the original point of this post I just came across a nice Jeff Grimes stat from last season. Baylor special teams scored 54 points in their first 6 games while the offense was only able to muster 42 points. Why did we hire this dude? One good season at BYU in a cupcake conference.

This whole sordid affair is the first time in my life I've paid attention to a coordinator! Like knowing names, wishing they were gone, etc.

@kjayhawks I'd take Montell Williams.

I wonder if Grimes will coach any games in the new stadium?

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@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

I wonder if Grimes will coach any games in the new stadium?

Hope so and it means the season turned around. I’m not optimistic, but not without hope.

@benshawks08 right the stuff the comes out of his mouth makes me think he couldn’t coach a prostitute through a orgasm. Illinois has the best disguised defense in the land apparently as he said after that loss. What a complete and utter dipshit.

@benshawks08 the clarification really helped

Grimes is just not it. It is really unfortunate he was hired this year with the talent we have. He sounded like a complete moron today.

Grimes shouldn’t last the weekend if the offense doesn’t improve this week.

Someone must be the sacrificial lamb when a 9-win team with a soft schedule and this many seniors returning doesn’t make a bowl game.

Just the way it has to be.

@benshawks08 matt taits explanation:

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It was all after the fact. I took it as him saying, if you thought Illinois was the low point, we’ve now hit an even lower point after losing to UNLV & have to really lock in & take nothing for granted to get it corrected. It was a good answer & the players responded well.

@approxinfinity hopefully they responded better than they did after the Illinois game

@approxinfinity I’ll just be honest everyday guys aren’t
hopping in the portal for the offense is a win at this point. It would’ve been super hard to hear that being a senior that was told you haven’t hit rock bottom yet with what they have gone thru. I honestly would’ve took a swing at him.

@kjayhawks you would punch your coach? For trying to encourage you? Really?

I mean its just kind of funny how loose we can be about our choice of words while criticizing the exact choice of words in others in a conversation we weren’t present for.

Tait got the quote wrong as well, FYI

@approxinfinity the quote was wrong and a little misleading. But pending on the delivery context I may have. I hate to break this to people but most male athletes are full testosterone and very masculine. If anyone one here has been around professional athletes they would confirm this. Scuffles and fights happen fairly often behind closed doors. Bill Self has gotten in to several physical altercations with players over the years. I did get to watch some of his press conference and did appreciate him admitting to needing to call better plays.

@kjayhawks "Scuffles and fight happen fairly often behind closed doors."

Are you telling me we could have kept Mangino? Crap, we could have been a well respected program by now.

Greggggg

Guys like Mangino and Gregggg were feared but not respected. That doesn’t fly today. Can’t keep people around when they don’t respect you and they have the freedom to leave. I played for a KS Sports Hall of Fame head coach and he rarely screamed at or demeaned anyone. You don’t have to be a raging prick to win.

@FarmerJayhawk Your coach probably didn't have to worry about how much NIL money you were making, how often you were going to transfer or wonder if you were ever going to take your damn face out of your damn phone.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

Guys like Mangino and Gregggg were feared but not respected. That doesn’t fly today. Can’t keep people around when they don’t respect you and they have the freedom to leave. I played for a KS Sports Hall of Fame head coach and he rarely screamed at or demeaned anyone. You don’t have to be a raging prick to win.

Brad Stevens ‘nuff said.

@nuleafjhawk eh, 2/3. It was the late 2000’s so we all had phones and it was a pretty mobile community. Lots of kids in and out.

@approxinfinity said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@benshawks08 matt taits explanation:

Matt Tait
@mctait
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3h
It was all after the fact. I took it as him saying, if you thought Illinois was the low point, we’ve now hit an even lower point after losing to UNLV & have to really lock in & take nothing for granted to get it corrected. It was a good answer & the players responded well.

Oh so CONTEXT matters all of the sudden?!!?

@FarmerJayhawk I personally don't mind a coach being very tough. I had a bit of a man crush on Bobby Knight - I wanted to be him if I had been a coach. Sorry. I knew the mother of one of his 4 year players and she would NOT let you bad mouth him. She said he was a much better man than his public persona, but that was how he coached. Honestly, if you're a college - D1 - football player and have to be coddled and not yelled at, you should probably take up chess or ice dancing or something.

@nuleafjhawk there's definitely a line between being tough and abusive. Mangino and Greggggg were canned for the latter. I read A Season on the Brink years ago, and wow did that was a trip. Some folks just aren't motivated by getting screamed at. This might be a hot take, but if you're a teacher of any sort you have to figure out how to reach and motivate each student/player. Some guys need tough love, but as Lance says you gotta be able to wrap your arms around them sometimes too. If you just get on guys all the time without building them up once in awhile you get the end of the Greggggggg era at WSU or the end of Mangino at KU. Things went off the rails because players got tired of their crap, didn't respect them, and played like it.

If you’ve ever been in a situation where your superior only yells at you, you’ll start to normalize it and it isn’t motivating at all.

A timely “atta boy” is often times more motivating than screaming.

Also, a HUGE difference in challenging guys to be better and mf-ing them to the point of embarrassment.

Also, some guys are more motivated with an “I’ll show you” attitude and nonchalance is a motivating tool.

There are a ton of levers to pull to motivate people and a good coach will utilize all of them.

There definitely has to be both accountability and praise from a coach. Most good coaches are very intense and get on players til they get it perfect. YouTube Nick Sabans Alabama practices that are taped, if they are off by 6 inches on play, he is in their face telling that ain’t the right way. Great players love the accountability and hard work. Now as @FarmerJayhawk said you have to be able to do both that and show the guys or gals you care at the same time.

If I recall... In our past few seasons KU was known as the "motion offense team" and we ran an offense similar to the Chiefs.

We look like a traditional offense now and we are not owning the offensive end of the ball.

I know Lance is the HC... but wasn't he going to require a similar style as we moved on to a new OC?

I'm not sure where I place blame yet since I'm a total backseat quarterback in this game. From what I see... our defense isn't too bad, but they are on the field too much now and getting worn out!

Daniels looks to be without confidence and looks lost out there half the time. I think the first order of business is to settle him down. Run the ball more, including having him run with the ball. Call easier pass plays, and very rarely a long ball. Build his confidence and also stop the TOs!

@drgnslayr said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

If I recall... In our past few seasons KU was known as the "motion offense team" and we ran an offense similar to the Chiefs.

We look like a traditional offense now and we are not owning the offensive end of the ball.

I know Lance is the HC... but wasn't he going to require a similar style as we moved on to a new OC?

I'm not sure where I place blame yet since I'm a total backseat quarterback in this game. From what I see... our defense isn't too bad, but they are on the field too much now and getting warn out!

Daniels looks to be without confidence and looks lost out there half the time. I think the first order of business is to settle him down. Run the ball more, including having him run with the ball. Call easier pass plays, and very rarely a long ball. Build his confidence and also stop the TOs!

The one thing I have noticed is that in the last couple of years with our former OC we had the opportunity to quick strike- -that home run offense-- play calls with Big time explosive results - -Big chunk plays rathe it was through the air, or on the ground. -w e were explosive.-----This year -- -not so much , we haven't had that. Th question becomes is it because of Change in our OC ? or is it that the guys just aren't executing the plays fully ?- -I have a little tendency to believe that it is our new OC to a certain degree anyways. - -maybe with him moving down to on the field---things will change

@jayballer67 I think the important part was that the big chunk plays weren't always long passes either. It was something that would get someone open and moving into space where they could make an easy pass and catch and then rack up some YAC. But maybe I'm imagining that.

@benshawks08 right, at this point I have zero belief in Grimes play calling and play book in general. As I posted above on this thread. The special teams scored more than the offense for his last team thru 6 games a year ago. If I feel that way, how do the players? If they don’t trust or believe in Grimes it’s gonna be a long season. There is just too much talent on that side of the ball for us not go average above 35 PPG.

@drgnslayr Our play calling even with run game has been very predictable.

We need to be a bit more creative in calling plays for our playmakers, get them open in space and gain yards.

I hope Grimes can take a few plays from AK's playbook.

@AsadZ I’m frustrated that we have ran the option twice this season, gained 20 yards each time to not run it more

@kjayhawks don't want to be too predictable :face_with_rolling_eyes:

Officially changed to fire Jeff grimes on my note

So i guess the question is does LL put too much faith in JD, or does he have no faith in Ballard?

Jalon Daniels had a 39% rating today. Surely somebody can do better?

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT QBR

15/25 184 7.4 1 1 39.3

~~@kjayhawks i think you put grines. ;)~~

@rockchalkjayhawk i know nothing about football but it seems like a wildcat offense with jalon could be potent?

@approxinfinity I would certainly run him more now since he clearly lost his arm from the back injury.

He has a good enough arm you still have to respect the pass. But at this point you aren’t worried about keeping him healthy. Every game from here on out has to be played like it is a championship game. Because it basically is if we want to sniff a bowl.

WVU played today like that. Their QB had almost 20 runs today. We need that same since of urgency.

@Kcmatt7 agreed. He seems to want to run and is gunshy to pass. Let him run. Worst case, lose him for the season. Best case, running him more opens up the offense. Maybe he finds a comfortable balance and gets his swagger back.

@approxinfinity hahahaha

Some journalist needs to take the time to compare the 2022 JD vs the 2024 JD. I'm not wasting my time to do it, but it's screwed up. He's obviously throwing differently (not even standing on both feet half the time this season). Play option decision making is totally F d up this year. Stupider. Just a total 180 of the guy we knew, and I'd like to know WTF happened.

@rockchalkjayhawk The guy selling peanuts has a better completion rate.

8 yard patterns to the sidelines will cut up a defense if the throws are there. The part of the game I saw today was lacking any sort of accuracy on those throws. The completions led to immediate tackles out of bounds. Zero chance for YAC. All of those skilled wideouts must be getting frustrated not being able to get the big plays.

@nuleafjhawk - Now that’s funny!

@DanR Is he concerned about getting injured?

@AsadZ that has to be in the back of his mind.

You know the surest way to get injured?

Play like you're worried about getting injured.

Is this a recruiting miss? Should we have been able to pull a high level backup like Bean who would be able to play right now?

@approxinfinity I’m not sure but Ballard must look like dog poo in practice if they haven’t let him even try at this point with how JD is playing. David Lawrence said several times on the radio call due the first half while I was driving. JD has zero zip on the long passes they are just hung up for someone to pick it and way too much zip on the underneath stuff.

you know people blamin Grimes, and I agree to a point anyways BUT part of the blame needs to be give to Brian Borland defense too-- --three times late in the fourth qtr surrendering leads yesterday twenty frickens seconds.- -Didn't feel quite as baad about Illinois after they beat Nebraska, but how the hell you give up an eleven point lead with five minutes to go - That's on your defense

@kjayhawks Ballard could look like a big steaming pile of poo - or maybe LL is just a stubborn ass. I don't know.

So after all the complaints about Grimes and Leipold, have we actually made any changes? Status quo?

It sure does not sound like any changes per LL's last interview. Hopefully, things will improve and we'll be pleasantly surprised, but I strongly expect we will be having a similar sentiment.

@rockchalkjayhawk well, we went from losing by single digits to losing by double digits, so there's that. I believe it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Well, we can only hope the learning curve for a new coordinator and QB combo comes together quickly.

I’ll say this. If nothing changes, and they keep losing, LL deserves some heat.

Big issue now is they have a Lockerroom that is likely on the brink of collapse. You have to fire Grimes even to appease the players if they lose this week.

And if they lose and keep Grimes you can just count me out on watching another game this season.

I sure won’t watch next week

As one of the guys that has consistently got on Grimes this season. I didn’t agree with everything tonight but he easily called his best game as a KU coach in this one.

@Kcmatt7 as much as it pains me admit, coach LL has to start taking heat for losing 5 straight games we led in the 4th quarter or late in the 3rd.

@FarmerJayhawk I’ll bet my whole pay check Kansas will not lose next weekend in football.

@kjayhawks I’ll raise you two whole paychecks

@Kcmatt7 hoping this comment aged poorly. Grimes did much better and we still lost.

@kjayhawks if anyone could under those circumstances, it would be us!

I really think the bye week came at the perfect time. I think you just have to sit everyone down and start over at square one starting tomorrow. If you are making a coaching staff change now is the time to do. You let every player and coach vent, let out that frustration. Do it behind closed doors hopefully fists fly and straighten up some folks. More forward as a team.

@kjayhawks said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@Kcmatt7 as much as it pains me admit, coach LL has to start taking heat for losing 5 straight games we led in the 4th quarter or late in the 3rd.

That's Borlands responsibility. - -He needs to take responsibility for the changing Scheme when you can't stop QB draws or have a RB run wild on you play after play after play.-- They should be putting a spy on those types of QB'S - -what has Borland done to fix it

Need wheeler back

@approxinfinity said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@Kcmatt7 hoping this comment aged poorly. Grimes did much better and we still lost.

Offense looked pretty great actually. Grimes probably bought himself another week.

Defense was atrocious.

The season continues to just be a kick in the groin though. Heartbreaker after heartbreaker.

@jayballer67 defense was definitely the issue last night, not sure anyone would argue that. But several other games the offense had chances to help and didn’t or turned the ball over. Last night was KUs first lost in a long without a TO.

What year end changes are necessary to get the football program on track with our expectations? Fire Grimes and Borland today and start the job search immediately? I'm just as disappointed with the defense as the offense; well almost as disappointed-the offense has just been awful compared with my preseason expectations. Oh, and don't give me the "good loss" or "close loss" crap on the KState game. Only a win over KState matters.

@stoptheflop good loss, close loss.

Dont step out on a punt return at the 1.

Dont miss extra points.

Dont cough up unforced fumbles.

This doesnt feel like a bad game plan at fault. It was a failure to execute.

@approxinfinity I lost all faith in coach LL last night watching the press conference. Made several excuses and claimed we “closing the gap”. We won’t make a bowl game or even compete with KSU until the next coaching staff is here. I’d give it a minimum of 5 years before that happens. Several recruits have de committed and we just lost any decent in state player last night. This team wins 1 or 2 games for the next two years and LL gets canned. We will have a fancy stadium tho smh.

@kjayhawks when I was about 25, I lost $450 in a poker game. That was a huge amount of money for me then. (I'm 66 now)
I had a full house and lost to 4 of a kind. Which shows you can have a really good thing going and still lose. That was the last time I played poker or even really bet someone more than $5.

Last night was my present day $450 poker game. I've invested way too much time and energy into this band of losers. I told myself I wasn't going to watch, but I sneaked a peek and saw us score first. Then I had hope. False hope.

It won't happen again. I'm folding and throwing my cards on the table.

I may root for Oregon. They're fun as hell to watch. 🏈

@nuleafjhawk wait i thought the moral of the story was we were a full house yesterday and KSU was 4 of a kind. Also that usually a full house is good enough. Also that beating KSU might seem like a huge deal right now but there are bigger goals if we have continuity of direction.

Oh well, i suck at analogies :)

@approxinfinity Hahaha I just don’t see us in position to beat them again for a very long time. There is zero silver linings in this season. We are going to lose a lot of talented players and the recruiting trail looks very bad right now. I’m negative for sure but I’m realistic to a fault and there is just no upside for Kansas football at the moment. This season set us back to square one on a rebuild.

@kjayhawks you dont think a competitive game and a good game plan with failure to execute could be pitched to recruits as “insert yourself in this equation and we win”?

@approxinfinity not recruits that want to win now. You ain’t winning at Kansas next season period

@approxinfinity if im a recruit right now I can go to Colorado, ISU or KSU and compete to win championships right now or go to KU knowing maybe as a junior or senior we may sniff a bowl.

@approxinfinity No, I think you absolutely nailed it. Until the continuity of direction quip. More like One Direction - reverse. Last night was the game that firmly cemented our place in history as one of the worst college football teams of all time.

I've said it before, but we CONSTANTLY snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Every single game this year we should have won. We're a joke.

@kjayhawks colorado? Gross man.

@nuleafjhawk aw man. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on how we define worst teams in history. I will take competitive.

@approxinfinity everyone has their own opinion. I feel like a nationwide poll of sports fans and pollsters might have us in the bottom 10.

@nuleafjhawk I used to be able to point to Vanderbilt, not so much this year. lol KU football is pathetic, I hope the basketball team doesn’t disappoint as well.

@dylans Silver lining - at least we don't have to worry about other teams stealing LL from us anymore!

@nuleafjhawk I earnestly agree.

@nuleafjhawk maybe it could end up being a bad thing. He has to start all over at square one next season so can he do it again?

Dang gonna call up my pharmacist friend and get a bulk order of Xanax in here

@FarmerJayhawk I hope he has better hours than "only open until 6 and closed on the weekends Walgreens"

@nuleafjhawk she gave me a vaccine in her kitchen once so the service is immaculate

@FarmerJayhawk why did I assume your friend was a guy? Evidently I'm a sexist pig. Sorry.

@nuleafjhawk lol no worries. She’s very much a bro

@FarmerJayhawk Those are very good friends to have.

@nuleafjhawk absolutely. Definitely the type of person you’d want your son to bring home lol

I still want to fire Grimes

@FarmerJayhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@nuleafjhawk she gave me a vaccine in her kitchen once so the service is immaculate

This is the way.

@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@FarmerJayhawk I hope he has better hours than "only open until 6 and closed on the weekends Walgreens"

Unfortunately there is a reason most don't stay in the field. I was in the last "small" class before they expanded and out of all the classmates I still talk to, I'm one of the few that are still trucking.

@PharmacyHawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@FarmerJayhawk I hope he has better hours than "only open until 6 and closed on the weekends Walgreens"

Unfortunately there is a reason most don't stay in the field. I was in the last "small" class before they expanded and out of all the classmates I still talk to, I'm one of the few that are still trucking.

The hours are awful but at least the pay is… wait a second… also not great

Something I found interesting , this two & six team -- - - - on the Season only 2 & 6- - -Has STILL out scored their opponents for the year by FORTY SIX POINTS - -very interesting your two & six on the year and have still outscored your opponents by forty six points. - - What's that tell ya ?

@jayballer67 better blow out the other team or they will find a way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory?

@FarmerJayhawk I thought the pay was really good maybe @PharmacyHawk knows better. My sister in law went to the Pharmacy school and had been a pharmacist for 20 years. Her husband doesn’t work and they live 500k house and drive brand new vehicles so I assume they are doing plenty good. She does end up working 6 days a week most the time.

@jayballer67 If you want to have some (sick) fun - go to kuathletics.com and look at the seasons stats vs opponents. We are better in damn near EVERY category! It's almost impossible that our record is 2-6. I'm not a math whiz, but if i objectionably glanced at the stats - I say Kansas is undefeated this season. Frickin crazy.

@nuleafjhawk said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@jayballer67 If you want to have some (sick) fun - go to kuathletics.com and look at the seasons stats vs opponents. We are better in damn near EVERY category! It's almost impossible that our record is 2-6. I'm not a math whiz, but if i objectionably glanced at the stats - I say Kansas is undefeated this season. Frickin crazy.

I hear ya, I've seen them and agree -- -we could very easily , be 7-1 the exception with TCU being 11 , even then we were right there most the game, a Reason I have to point blame I think equally if anything o our DC. The offense scoring the points and the Defense not holding up, blame goes both sides

Below is from Bing:

The starting salary for a pharmacist varies, but here are some estimates based on different sources1234:

Average hourly pay for an Entry Level Pharmacist in the United States is $60.911.

Average annual salary for a starting level pharmacist is $76,8402.

Hourly earnings for starting level pharmacists begin at $34.013.

Total pay for pharmacists based on years of experience ranges from $116,000 to $133,0004.

@kjayhawks said in Crap on Jeff Grimes thread:

@FarmerJayhawk I thought the pay was really good maybe @PharmacyHawk knows better. My sister in law went to the Pharmacy school and had been a pharmacist for 20 years. Her husband doesn’t work and they live 500k house and drive brand new vehicles so I assume they are doing plenty good. She does end up working 6 days a week most the time.

It's certainly not bad at all, but as Farmer references, I wouldn't call it great by any means. Especially when most pharmacists suffer from horrible working conditions and experience burnout in their first few years out of school when they are just digging themselves out of $110k+ student loans.

I never went into this degree with money being the focal point. It's nice, sure, but my goal was always to help people and I didn't want an MD's hours lol.

Edit: I also don't want to completely derail this thread, but having to abide by people who have absolutely zero medical knowledge (insurance companies) or the costs of modern healthcare, makes you jaded REAL fast.

@PharmacyHawk Insurance companies might not be good for the actual healthcare people receive? SHOCKING!

Nothing like getting a letter two months after getting a medication, test, or procedure stating oops, that wasn't actually approved. It's so frustrating from the outside, I can't even imagine how taxing it is on those dealing with it everyday for so many different cases. Funny how often the jobs where people are trying to help other people are not only undervalued financially but also consistently made more difficult by people only trying to help themselves.

@PharmacyHawk yes I know I’ve heard a lot of stories from her about how crooked the insurance companies are but yes will take over this thread with it lol