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How are people feeling about tomorrow? Hard to believe this season has already gone off the rails, but 0-0 in the league means we can start it off the right way tomorrow. Stuff the run sounds like the important part tomorrow for our D. Two decent backs and a running QB.

Jalen might have an easy time with the WVU secondary from what I've read. Would be great to see him gain some confidence.

Safest call for me is an OT game like last time we were there. Then who knows.

@wissox said in Must win tomorrow!:

How are people feeling about tomorrow? Hard to believe this season has already gone off the rails, but 0-0 in the league means we can start it off the right way tomorrow. Stuff the run sounds like the important part tomorrow for our D. Two decent backs and a running QB.

Jalen might have an easy time with the WVU secondary from what I've read. Would be great to see him gain some confidence.

Safest call for me is an OT game like last time we were there. Then who knows.

I think Jalen finds some rhythm WV secondary errible- -even hei fans say as much --- I'll say KU 28-----WV 24

Gotta admit, I have pretty low expectations. JD throws the ball very hard, making it hard to catch. Run game has to work. D has to stop WV run game.

Watching Ill-Nebby and Illini are going toe to toe with them in Lincoln. Husker fans are pretty excited sensing a revival of Husker football. They had a remote learning day today so fans could, IDK, be better ready? for the game. Illinois if haven't remembered was a game that we actually should have won. We're a good team that hasn't figured out how to win thus far.

As I said earlier in the week I believe this to be a bowl elimination game. I don’t see either of these teams getting to .500 after falling to 1-3. It will be interesting to see how we come out and if JD can return to form. The defense has kept us in games so far but that’s a lot of pressure on them at this point. WV will try to control the line of scrimmage and run the ball down our throats.

I predict another 100 yard rushing game from Neal. I’ll take WV 35 to 13, I think the defense gets gassed from being on the field too much. JD continues to struggle staring down receivers and throws 2 picks, one of which is returned for 6. I’d be happy to be wrong but I haven’t seen anything from this team that leaves me to believe they are capable of beating an FBS team let alone a conference opponent on the road.

@kjayhawks I don't see it nearly that catastrophic. I hope you're wrong!

@wissox me too, big win for Illinois in Lincoln tonight so that makes me feel a little better. Ugh if only we didn’t give away games.

@wissox Dylan Raiola, mini Mahomes. It’s amazing what a good qb can do for a program.

I don't feel great about it. But yeah maybe the Illinois loss won't be as bad as previously thought.

I am still SMH how quickly sentiment has changed for KU Football.

We have so many good players that have been around for long time.

Coming into the season people including myself were so hopeful and high on this team and now we are talking about not even making it to a bowl game.

I probably won't have be able to watch today. Too bad - I kinda wanted to see Grimes' last game...

Ugh! This is like 4 years ago when it was a difficult decision to even watch the game. I wish Daniels would get benched after his first TO and at least see if a more steady, less risk taking Cole Ballard might be the best option for a win now. Our running game is so strong, I would like to see mostly running plays and then just use the pass to keep the dbacks off the line of scrimmage. Daniels just isn't running the run/pass option well, so unless he improves the first Q, please Lance let's try something different.

Maybe the Illinois loss isn't quite as bad as I thought, Illinois beating Nebraska last night , ya not quite s bad

Turn the season around right here, right now.

That sack, damn

Ok, I did the freeze frame on that sack…he was offsides.

We will see if JD has confidence to make some throws

What just happened, D meltdown

Soft coverage on this drive

Someday I’d like a real football coach to explain soft zone coverage defense. I don’t get it. We got two of the best CBs, use em?

Wow. Straight to the bench.

If I am LL, I will bring in Ballard.

But, JD has been running for his life on every play. Our line isn't giving him any protection

He sucks. Get a new QB in the next set of downs

I think JD should be getting passes off before running for his life. Not seeing the field.

He should be throwing passes higher to avoid the ability to intercept halfway to the intended player.

His confidence is shattered, let him reset.

Is “reset” code for sitting on the bench?

Let him sit.

Watch from sideline.

@stoptheflop said in Must win tomorrow!:

But, JD has been running for his life on every play. Our line isn't giving him any protection

But yea, that isn’t helping him.

Regardless of whether he was running for his life or not, he threw another pick. I imagine mentally he’s done for the day. Time to make a change.

Also, now it’s time to figure out if the issue is Grimes or JD. Give Grimes 3 quarters with a new QB and see if it works.

Okay D

Lets go now

Thank goodness for this defense. We’re due for a long TD

Pick!

I hope Grimes can be a bit more creative and do not have JD in obvious 3rd down throwing situations looking in middle of the field.

Lets go now

Neal is amazing

Neal 70yds, 11 rushes, TD.

Cmon D!

Some blown up coverages on this drive, need a stop

Dotson having a tough day so far.

Why was that not intentional grounding?

D stop. Great. Now, Neal left, Neal right and Neal up the middle.

Penalty.....

Why can we not finish out halves to our advantage?

@AsadZ said in Must win tomorrow!:

Penalty.....

Holding on KU penalty gave WV the lead at the half.

I’m listening on the way back from my son’s game and David Lawrence has called out the playing calling non stop. It is holding us back big time again today. Just another Saturday with the worst offensive coordinator in the nation.

This opening drive is important. Great so far. Got to tie this game up

TD, nice start to the 2nd half

Our secondary is not doing well.

They are giving up too many big plays.

Secondary is trying to hard to get a pick, need to play sound defense and not give up a big play

How many receiving yards have they given already?

208 passing yards.

@AsadZ their number 3 has been 150 by himself

We are warring down their defensive

Run the ball today

Neal and Hishaw show

We have 185 rushing yards.

WV is dealing with injuries, it's unfortunate as you do not want to see players go down.

OK it'd be nice if we could settle down on D and not let the big plays happen.

KU pass defense sucks: 8 completions for 208 yds

And it sounds like there will be a game delay.

I'm taking credit for that pick with my comment above!

Wasted TO.

@patoh3 said in Must win tomorrow!:

Wasted TO.

3 shit plays in a row

Darn it, JD missed two wide open guys. The Grimm play should’ve been thrown inside with no safety help smh

That was a sure TD

Nice stop D

Now lets have a long drive, run the ball

So far, 2 poor play calls this drive. Casey saved it with the catch.

Why throw on 1st down in that situation? Run the ball and run the clock...

WTH?

Run the damn ball!

Bad call and bad throw...

Why didn’t run it? It looks a like a catch too me, their defense looks gassed to me this delay helps them more than us.

Why is game delayed? Cant watch, at soccer game.

Lightning

We have almost double the time of possession.

@patoh3 right which is why I didn’t want a delay, I’d go for it out of this delay

I’m still not real pleased with the play calling but it has been better this half so I’ll give Grimes a little bit of a break

this is exactly didn't need. We had all the momentum and lightning strike - -really looked like two totally different teams between first half and second half

Been able to watch the 2nd half. Unfortunate momentum killer with the lightning delay. I wonder if they’ll review the oob catch? They’ve got time to look it over and decide. D has been playing well though.

Winning second half means capable of adjustments. Promising

@wissox said in Must win tomorrow!:

Been able to watch the 2nd half. Unfortunate momentum killer with the lightning delay. I wonder if they’ll review the oob catch? They’ve got time to look it over and decide. D has been playing well though.

The play was reviewed and confirmed as incomplete

@stoptheflop thanks. I’m at my daughters baby shower, people all over ruining my viewing!

I am seeing where it is anticipated to be a 2 hour delay.

Two hour delay? wowzers.

Just when we had the mobile QB of theirs tiring out. damn.

KSU is going to need a bigger scoreboard against us.

Allowing fans back in the Stands.- -15 minute wrm up -- looking around 3:40

I just saw where it is going to be around 3:40 -3:45 for the game to resume.

Restarting now on ESPN News

Nice job defense.

Please run, run, run.

Hishaw for the 1st down

Good play

Yes, yes, yes. TD

The e Grimm Reaper streaking through the cemetary of still WV cheerleader tombstones!

@approxinfinity big game for the Reaper and could’ve been bigger

@kjayhawks 130 total yards so far

But here comes WV

Unnecessary penalty. Why?

That’ shouldn’t have been a flag he was running forward on the field of play

Thats bullshit

Not the defensive players job to look at qbs feet. Total amateur hour call

Wow, just a 2 min drive by WV for TD. What the hell is going on with our defense?

I just hope we keep on running and not try to pass into coverage.

Big 3rd down. Huge

I don’t like this

Good god run the option to the long side of the field another blunder by Grimes

How many times will you do the same thing?

Up to the D now.

@stoptheflop said in Must win tomorrow!:

Wow, just a 2 min drive by WV for TD. What the hell is going on with our defense?

20+ yards per completion given up - that's what...

D#! D#!

They will use all 4 downs now, at least until FG range. Not sure we are capable of stopping them 4 downs...

Is it still on? I can't find it

ESPN news

Best hope is for overtime at this point

Or a TO

Time for a fumble.

@kjayhawks said in Must win tomorrow!:

Best hope is for overtime at this point

That is so sad, when KU had an 11 pt lead with 5:30 to play. Oh man, this team

Their QB is under 40% completion, but has accounted for 340 effing yards. Repeat of UNLV...

@stoptheflop yep a weak ass penalty and asinine play calling continues to cripple this team

Can we actually tackle their QB for a loss for once...

@DCHawker There you go.

This feels like rinse and repeat. Do we have to watch the end of this game?

They are still in 4 down territory...

Can we tackle this guy? They well within range now

We simply have no clue how to deal with a QB who can scramble...

How many tackles has WV QB slipped? I know it is way too many.

We just lost again folks smh

Dotson did not even turn his head.

Bet the QB runs it in again

Get a sack, please!

Only chance now is a sack...

How was that receiver that wide open???

If Jeff Grimes has a job Monday I’m out

We may not win a game this year?

Easier to watch with zero expectation.

@rockchalkjayhawk against FBS idk WV weak very very weak

“Another heartbreaking breakdown in the 4th quarter by the Jayhawks” per the announcer. No shit!

@kjayhawks the question is, who would be his replacement?

@approxinfinity anyone with a pulse, sorry but this is a disgrace

@kjayhawks said in Must win tomorrow!:

If Jeff Grimes has a job Monday I’m out

Less Grimes today than countless defensive breakdowns...

@DCHawker it was an equal opportunity mess up

@kjayhawks yeah but that isnt an answer. Must have a replacement that is better.

At least it was dramatic.

2 shots into the endzone...

JD doing Jd 2024

What a meltdown in Morgantown

Not the fumble I was talking about earlier BTW.

@DCHawker said in Must win tomorrow!:

2 shots into the endzone...

Or not even one....

Now 1-3. This season held such promise. Another 4th qtr collapse.

This was painful to watch

Ok, where were those boot camp photos? Time for hoops.

I’m okay with firing everyone at this point obviously AK was mastermind behind everything. We are so poorly coached

That little hitch was the difference getting that one out

There is the Season right there -- How do you give up an eleven point lead with five -talk about grabbing a loss ou of the jaws of victory. You can't come up with a excuse for this one

He wasn't throwing to the endzone anyway...

Something has to change. Now.

Offense is not mediocre. It is poor.

OK, I’m not dreaming, right? Weren’t we up 11 with not much time to go?

One first down would have iced the game

Yes. They scored 15 points in the final 4-5 min

How mad do we be at the defense when they have played good enough to win every game but the last 2 drives here. Maybe we should just cancel the program and join the big east this absolute embarrassment.

I guess, given that stat, I should say the defense is not good either.

@AsadZ And we run to the short side of the field! Why do they always seem to do that?

It was awful. But. What are really going to do midseason here to right the ship?

3 blown 4th quarter leads. This isn't just an offensive issue. The defense has been bad in clutch time too not being able to get a stop. The secondary was particularly bad today getting torched on multiple occasions.

It's start over time.

@approxinfinity said in Must win tomorrow!:

It was awful. But. What are really going to do midseason here to right the ship?

Clint Normore available?

@bskeet everyone has said that for 3 weeks smh. We can not win D1 football games with JD at QB and Grimes calling plays

Like I’ve been saying y'all don’t get how many years this will set us back. Any decent player will hit the portal and we won’t get crap in recruiting

Who decided Grimes was the best OC we could hire?

@kjayhawks said in Must win tomorrow!:

How mad do we be at the defense when they have played good enough to win every game but the last 2 drives here. Maybe we should just cancel the program and join the big east this absolute embarrassment.

sounds good, do ew get a win in the Big 21 this year ?

And will LL right the ship after this or will he bail at the end of the year?

There is no reaso n this team should be 1-3 with the talent we got--- -PERIOD

@jayballer67 We get a win by surprising a team who had a short week and has multiple injuries at key positions. And also, flu is running through the team the night before.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Must win tomorrow!:

@approxinfinity said in Must win tomorrow!:

It was awful. But. What are really going to do midseason here to right the ship?

Clint Normore available?

Cmon, that was funny!

I'm done. See ya in basketball season

Lance will bail IMO based on “lack of fan support”. JD needs to become a RB or WR. Ballard to QB? Defense - how do you fix something that broken?

Well these types of preformance sure the hell isn't goin to help funding for the stadium- - -- -DAM , back to bottom feeder football

@patoh3 I am fine at this point if LL leaves like I said he is a fraud and AK was the genius

Avery Johnson may run for 300 yards on us

3 losses like this is tough to swallow. Could be 4-0

This looks like a David Beaty coached team sadly

JD had a chance to be a hero 3 times and fumbled it away all 3 times he is the MVP of the opponent

This is fan abuse. The playcalling is atrocious. We were up two scores late and had the ball on 3rd down and 3 near the 50 yd line and we threw the friggin' ball. Even my 11-year-old son called out "it's 2 down territory!"

I feel like this is the old horrible KU football program. We had our little run... coaches get paid millions in contract... time to tank.

I'd love to feel some optimism, but I feel like a rape victim continuing to be victimized.

@drgnslayr right it’s easier to know what we suck and lose by 49 than to piss away the talent on this team and not even make a bowl. Fire everyone and cancel the program

I feel sorry for players like Neal, Hishaw, Grimm. Bryant etc.

Their talent is being wasted by poor coaching and play calling.

Outscored 48-17 in the final 5 minutes of each half so far this season

@kjayhawks or 1,000

Well. This horrible start has made our opinions generally unanimous here #tryinghardtofindsilverlinings

@approxinfinity I’m usually pretty negative I’ll admit but what can we take from this disaster of a season. That we’ll have a new stadium that’s 1/4 full next season.

@kjayhawks yes. And they can charge four times as much admission to make up for the lack of fans that our coaches have alienated

This is nowhere near David Beaty era Kansas because KU was rarely competitive. A game like today against a conference opponent was a once a season deal.

This feels much more like the 2006 season KU went 6-6 and was about 5 plays away from being 10-2 that season. KU this season is about 3-4 plays away from being 4-0 right now. This is nothing like 10 years ago when we were begging for KU to just be competitive.

Because KU has had a 4th quarter lead in every game this season, Daniels and Grimes don't deserve all of the blame, especially the last 2 games where KU had a lead with under 3 minutes left. That means that despite the flaws on offense this season, they've been good enough to give KU leads with under 3:00 left the last 2 games. The defense has to be better at getting key stops amd closing out games as well.

It sucks to not be able to close out games, but again, this is nowhere near Beaty era levels of bad and incompetent.

@Texas-Hawk-10 This is worse. We have experienced success and gone woefully backwards. We will never again win a football game.

I concur although D has been put in very tough situations by offense.

When O got the ball around 3 min to go they could have iced the game with just one first down but they couldn’t do it giving ball back and momentum to WV

@AsadZ said in Must win tomorrow!:

I concur although D has been put in very tough situations by offense.

When O got the ball around 3 min to go they could have iced the game with just one first down but they couldn’t do it giving ball back and momentum to WV

The defense was given an 11 point lead with 3:40 left in the game. That's not a tough situation, but obviously the defense wasn't up to the job today and deserve more of the blame than the offense for losing this one today.

@kjayhawks hey next Saturday we get to see Coach K play against Illinois, should be a moment to really reflect on Grimes vs K.

Also, Illinois beating Nebraska… that one may appear to be less of a bad loss for us on paper. Obviously, we gave it away.

I think we all can agree it was a team effort to lose this one. The offensive play calling has been absolutely garbage for much of the year. The defense couldn’t get stops when it was a must. But as I said the defense is allowed to screw up too with how ungodly bad the offense has been for much of this season. @Texas-Hawk-10 thats a very logical and fair assessment but I agree with @nuleafjhawk this is the worst feeling I have ever had as a ku fan losing by 40 to a more experienced and better team is one thing. Having 30 returning seniors from a 9-4 team up against one of the easiest schedules in CFB. This is unacceptable and changes need to be made

If Patrick Mahomes had attended The university of Kansas, he'd be selling paint at Home Depot now.

@nuleafjhawk idk it’s pretty clear he overcame some pretty god awful coaching in college

@kjayhawks Both suck for different reasons. This season sucks because they were expectations going into a season for the first time in about 15 years and each of these losses have come down to the final few plays so it's more frustrating in that sense because of the emotions involved.

The Gill to Miles years sucked because we just weren't competitive at all and apathy was the norm. The emotional detachment might make this seem worse, but I'll always prefer having a chance to win over games essentially being over after the first quarter.

KU won 21 games total in those 11 seasons. Leipold has won 20 games so far at Kansas in 3+ seasons and is already tied for 9th on KU's all time wins list and has a shot to get to 7th this season.

@nuleafjhawk If Patrick Mahomes was on KU we would be 4-0 right now.

@approxinfinity no, he would have morphed into football obscurity simply by being on campus

@nuleafjhawk lol :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

@approxinfinity if Cozart was QB we’d be undefeated right now

The silver lining is JD looked better today than he has. This was an L on the schedule preseason.

Small sliver of hope left.

@Kcmatt7 Not KU Godawful, brother.

Schedule does look easy still. Next 3 need to be wins.

So disappointing. Glaring mistakes from players and coaches to blow three winnable games. Still time to turn this around, but at this point... what we're doing ain't working, coach LL.

Oh boy, just got home. Couldn't find the last 10 minutes on my DVR. Looked up the score at KUSports and well, crap. About to start to doubt Lance Leipold. I lack to brain waves to figure out how to coach the boys to hold an 11 point lead with 6 minutes left, but I'm thinking there's got to be a way. I'm glad i didn't watch. Would've been interesting to see what a difference the delay may have had. We were clearly rolling on Defense throughout the 2nd half until the delay, then they must have come out with their 2nd wind.

@wissox Agreed. We can bitch about Daniels and Grimes but it's ultimately on the head coach.

Letting the QB run straight through the middle has been a problem before, IIRC.

Just looking at our schedule this morning, I think we win 2 games this season. Houston is our only chance at another victory.

@kjayhawks Happy days. Just a few weeks ago a lot of us dumbass fans were predicting one or two LOSSES.

@nuleafjhawk must we self flagellate so vigoruously?

@approxinfinity I've told you about using big words around me:face_with_rolling_eyes:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I rarely disagree with you... but on this one, I blame the offense. KU has become a quality program mostly through our offense. We have several big-time tools on offense.

Yes, the defense lost away a two-score lead late in the 4th quarter. They were tired and without an offense keeping possession of the ball, they weren't allowed to rest, and possession drains the clock making it impossible for them to score twice.

We didn't need to score again while up two scores but we did need to secure ball possession. And our best offense so far this year is our ground game. As I mentioned above... two downs to make 3 yards (especially with Neal and Daniels) is an obvious situation to run, making a first down while also running clock.

My 11-yr old was even screaming at the TV!

@wissox yes I have lost all faith in LL, the team just doesn’t look well coached at this point. As I’ve said many times was AK running the show? We are so lost into many different areas. I will say most of those areas we lost coaches, the secondary, offensive line, QB and just over all coordinating of the offense looks terrible. Thats why I would’ve fired Jeff Grimes today.

@drgnslayr said in Must win tomorrow!:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I rarely disagree with you... but on this one, I blame the offense. KU has become a quality program mostly through our offense. We have several big-time tools on offense.

Yes, the defense lost away a two-score lead late in the 4th quarter. They were tired and without an offense keeping possession of the ball, they weren't allowed to rest, and possession drains the clock making it impossible for them to score twice.

We didn't need to score again while up two scores but we did need to secure ball possession. And our best offense so far this year is our ground game. As I mentioned above... two downs to make 3 yards (especially with Neal and Daniels) is an obvious situation to run, making a first down while also running clock.

My 11-yr old was even screaming at the TV!

We had an 11 point lead with 5 minutes left in the game. KU was also +13 minutes in time of possession with a 2 hour break at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I don't buy for one second that the defense was too tired.

@Texas-Hawk-10 he meant that the defense was tired of watching the other teams score

@Texas-Hawk-10

Players can get tired even within one series of downs from a ball possession.

Heck, teams are now realizing how to play against Chris Jones for the Chiefs. They are now saying to run the ball directly at him on the beginning of a possession, then run your pass plays on the next set of downs.

Even if they weren't tired. We didn't control the ball when we needed to... those last 5 minutes. That 3rd and 3 play was a mistake, and the OC called it. When we needed to control the ball the most he didn't go to our strength, which was to run the ball. Two downs to pick up 3 yards? Really? Not only that, it stopped the clock.

The game is decided on both sides of the ball! First thing you learn when playing football.

@drgnslay respectfully,
the first thing you learn is: this :backhand_index_pointing_right_medium-light_skin_tone: is a football 🏈.

I'm not sure we've figured that out yet.

@drgnslayr Go back and look at the play by play of KU's drive after WVU made it 28-25. Devin Neal ran for a 3 yard gain on first and second down and lost a yard on 3rd down. KU ran it 3 times on that series and went 3 and out. West Virginia used timeouts to stop the clock after the 2nd and 3rd down plays, it wasn't incomplete passes.

@Texas-Hawk-10 all runs to the right. Pretty unimaginative imo. But yeah, you are correct.

@approxinfinity no idea why we didn’t turn the option to the long side of the field or try to pass WV secondary is weak and they had 2 guys go down. I keep snapping back into the inept of this staff.

Or if JD saw that it was wide open on the long side to fake to Devin the ball and run for the 1st down. The actual play for 3rd down was so vanilla and disappointing. Mr Magoo saw it from a mile away.