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Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis
Nov 17, 2024 05:53 PM #1

I have to give kuballin credit on his Zeke analysis. Kid is a baller and can handle. Def is translating to p4 thus far. I think kuballin has softened his stance on Juan, and Juan has done well this year with a slightly reduced role and more scorers around him. Also, our defense hasn't been a dumpster fire, def has plenty of room to improve but the effort has been there.

Nov 17, 2024 05:54 PM #2

Juan is awesome. Game goes to hell when he is out but I am hoping Shak can change that.

Nov 17, 2024 08:10 PM #3

@approxinfinity Yeah Juan’s job is don’t turn it over…ATTACK from the tip and score when needed

He’s done these things especially against msu second half.

I also saw him defensively turn it up granted it was Oakland but if that’s the Juan we get against Duke…mark it down - we will win

Juan and Shak/Diggy are good 1-2 punch at the pg spot

Juan isn’t my favorite pg clearly and he’s be baddd at times but for this team with 30 mpg instead of 35-38….he can easily be what we need!

Zeke was easy to peg because he can win one on one and get his shot off at anytime (even against tourney teams). He’s better defensively than @Texas-Hawk-10 said and his rebounding has been outstanding

Zeke’s a baller and effects the game even when his shot doesn’t drop

Nov 18, 2024 01:47 PM #4

Let’s leave pegging to the marvel universe.

Nov 18, 2024 02:50 PM #5

@dylans oh dont be modest, you can tell us you are a master at peg solitaire !text ↗

Nov 18, 2024 03:21 PM #6

@approxinfinity said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@dylans oh dont be modest, you can tell us you are a master at peg solitaire !text ↗

Well then, go fuck yourself too!

Seriously not joking. You’re the worst.

Nov 20, 2024 04:44 PM #7

I'm close to going full KUballin10. That's the most upset with basically a 20 point win I can remember being. There is a lot of truly alarming stuff happening that sometimes makes me wonder how the hell Bill won so many games.

Nov 20, 2024 06:31 PM #8

@BShark Friendly confines of AFH covers many sins lol. It’s why we are so great in the regular season and haven’t gotten to the mountaintop as much as we’d like

Bills stubborn but hopefully he pulls the right strings like in 2022

Nov 20, 2024 07:30 PM #9

@kuballin10 had some convos today and sounds like Bill is testing the new guys to see how "tough" they are with how they respond to being yanked. What is very interesting to me is that Zeke is immune to it seemingly.

Nov 20, 2024 08:52 PM #10

i missed the analysis. @BShark not happy with last night's performance? What bits and pieces have you worried?

I stated earlier that we're not getting Griffen and Storr involved in any good way.

Some things of worry, but it was a worthy opponent.

Nov 20, 2024 09:01 PM #11

Offensively we got pretty much whatever we wanted. Just missed, conservatively, about 30 open 3s. Bill is still doing a ton of tinkering and again nobody played more than 30 minutes. Would’ve been even more evenly distributed had Flory and Shak been more available. I’d think about a few tweaks here and there but it’s tough given we haven’t played a single game with our top 8-9 totally healthy.

Nov 20, 2024 09:07 PM #12

I'm annoyed with Bill, not our performance. I'm just a dummy and I'll get over it lol.

Nov 20, 2024 11:11 PM #13

From what Bill was saying, sounds like we very well could see more and more of Hunter & Flory on the floor at the same time

Nov 21, 2024 04:15 AM #14

@BShark said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

I'm annoyed with Bill, not our performance. I'm just a dummy and I'll get over it lol.

Do you think it’s possible his act is growing tiresome after all these years? Have we all overdosed? Time for a new regime, or is that blasphemous?

The winning is nice :)

Nov 21, 2024 10:46 AM #15

@jayballer67

It needs some work, but the potential is there on both ends. The biggest thing defensively is that Flory and Hunt cannot camp in the lane at the same time so if there's a stretch 4 on the floor that's an issue. I pointed this out in the Mich St game how it was an issue, KU just got lucky the stretch 4 missed all his 3's. On offense, just about every possession I can recall has ended up with a Hunt/Flory dunk. Hunt's passing ability if he's in the high/low action has been deadly so far.

Nov 21, 2024 12:54 PM #16

@BeddieKU23 Against a lot of teams I am not sure if we can get away with it on defense. Flory is still totally lost on that end but I think works best as the main big.

Nov 21, 2024 12:57 PM #17

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@BShark said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

I'm annoyed with Bill, not our performance. I'm just a dummy and I'll get over it lol.

Do you think it’s possible his act is growing tiresome after all these years? Have we all overdosed? Time for a new regime, or is that blasphemous?

The winning is nice :)

Definitely a method to the madness but I watched this game and I saw guys overthinking instead of just playing basketball. The new to the program guys especially. Now, I don't watch every game for other programs but it seems to be much less of an issue integrating new players from what I've watched of other teams.

Some people will blab about Bill's "system" but I think that is largely bullcrap and he needs to get with the times a bit given how many new players we seem to have every year. If he needs a team full of guys he has had for 3+ years to do anything in March that is an issue.

Nov 21, 2024 02:06 PM #18

@dylans well it took me a few days to realize you werent actually joking (?) You threw out a 1 liner about pegging in deadpool, i read up on it and saw an article talking about Kevin Feige having to explain to MCU execs what pegging was https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1e04v8b/kevin_feige_had_to_explain_pegging_to_mcu_execs/?rdt=59166 ↗

I have a running schtick of “mis”interpreting R rated content as G rated content so I thought of peg solitaire and thought it was funny. Thought we were joking dude.

Lets reset?

Nov 21, 2024 04:47 PM #19

@BShark

While I like the look as well I'm actually concerned about foul trouble with both big's on the floor.

Nov 21, 2024 09:21 PM #20

@BShark You and I are seeing things eye to eye. This has always been my gripe with Bill. He plays favorites ie giving long leashes to guys he trusts versus guys who could elevate the team

To be our best we need Griffen and Storr playing like studs

Those two watching Juan make mistakes and stay in while they get the quick hook for 1 mistake is asinine

Bills psychology is point blank wrong. He wants these guys to play with a free mind and then decides one mistake and ur out…just absolute stupidity

In sales if ur boss is looking over your shoulder and on you over 1 mistake think you will sell with a free mind or overthink every single conversation???

Bill brings this upon himself with his backwards way of thinking. I have no idea who advises him on this stuff but it is brutally bad in terms of elevating the team versus hindering it

Nov 21, 2024 09:42 PM #21

Getting the “the game has passed Bill by” discourse out of the way before Thanksgiving, that might be a new record. Some years we have to wait until that meaningless non-con game right before Christmas where the guys already have one foot on the plane

Nov 21, 2024 10:13 PM #22

@kuballin10 I agree. He's an idiot. 800 times he's been an idiot.

Nov 21, 2024 10:17 PM #23

@FarmerJayhawk Where did I say that?

He’s mentioned Storr ect not playing with a free mind yet he’s the entire reason they aren’t doing that….literally been discussed on here already

Nov 21, 2024 10:18 PM #24

@nuleafjhawk Give you and me a top 10 roster and the best homecourt advantage of any sport in history and I think we could coach a few dubs as well

Titles >>>regular season dubs

Titles is where you find out who’s got it. Who can win away from home, in big gyms with a floor raised and all eyes on you……

Nov 21, 2024 10:19 PM #25

Counter argument to this: if Bill lets the players get away with mistakes/sloppy play, he is telling both that player and the rest of the team that there aren't consequences for bad plays. You also want to give the players feedback on these mistakes so that they don't become habits. Typically the sooner you get this feedback, the more impactful it is from a learning standpoint. Maybe letting the play a little more free flow helps in the short term, but it is always going to be better if you do so with proper muscle memory/habits built up. Maybe that means some players take longer to gel, but seems like trading short term gains for long term growth to me.

Nov 21, 2024 10:20 PM #26

@kuballin10 idk making up stuff people say is your thing. I've been seeing a lot of Self is stuck in the past and can't adapt chatter this week which seems entirely misplaced given it's November 21st and we're 5-0.

Nov 21, 2024 11:22 PM #27

@BShark when I say stuff like this I get in trouble lol

Nov 21, 2024 11:54 PM #28

@kuballin10 Are you always so bitter and hateful ?- - is your nasty disposition natural or do you have to work at it? --Are you happy about anything ? - That's got to be a miserable fricken life living like the.

KU could go 33-0 and you would still find things to Bitch about - I bet you bitch even in your dreams huh lol---you sound like my ex-wife- -that's why she is an EX Dam dude -- take a deep breath and chill it's going to be ok.

Find a hobby pick up crocheting or knitting or SOMETHING sit in your rocker -sip some tea, Good God man try enjoying life, Bill has done just fine the way he is LMAO. count slowly backwards from TEN and breathe - SMILE life is an awesome thing, you gonna give yourself a cardiac you keep going this way lmao KU is gonna be fine

Nov 22, 2024 04:05 AM #29

There's only been 3 coaches to win 3+ championships since the NCAA Tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985. Only 8 coaches have won multiple titles in the 64+ team era, 17 coaches total in NCAA Tournament history. It's really f-ing hard to win multiple titles and KU is blessed to have one of the 3 active coaches with multiple titles.

Self does has his flaws, so does every other coach.

Nov 22, 2024 05:28 PM #30

@FarmerJayhawk Let me know what I made up

Self - AJ is thinking more than playing basketball and maybe it’s because of me

Kuballin10 - A coach who quick hooks guys makes them hesitant so they think about not making a mistake instead of playing….

Correlation = causation

Nov 22, 2024 05:30 PM #31

@jayballer67 I truly enjoy your rants at me…skimming them is fun

In line with keeping on topic via this thread….what is your opinion on new players coming in thinking versus playing? Does Self’s quick hook help or hinder them?

Is some made up “toughening box” actually benefit them or should Self let them work through general mistakes and play freer?

Nov 22, 2024 05:31 PM #32

@MR11 Nah - if let’s plenty of guys play through mistakes and others he quick hooks. Been like this for decades and his quick hooks u can tell affect those guys playing aggressively.

Guys make mistakes all the time and he lets them play through them (those he trusts)

Nov 22, 2024 05:57 PM #33

@kuballin10 sure thing. Juan played 6 full years at KU so his stats will all have an asterisk, approx banned you for having an opinion, I talk to the coaches/watch practice, that's just off the top of my head. I could keep going if I thought harder.

Nov 22, 2024 06:22 PM #34

Early in his days at KU Bill Self lost to teams like Bradley and Bucknell and Richmond and Oral Roberts (I think) and Depaul and Northern Iowa and VCU, yet magically he was able to still win national championships! If I understand people here the UNCW game was giving some people hesitation about Bill and that he is losing it? The recruiting suffered a little as a result of the legal troubles I think, well except those recruits during the legal troubles did manage to win it all, so again, I'm not sure if he's lost it.

@kuballin10 I think you have your narrative about Bill and DaJuan and so you can fit any event into your narrative about him as 'proof'. That narrative makes you see the devil in Bill for quick hooks for Storr and Griffen, in mostly meaningless games. Both of those guys have played a little more prominently in our two high profile wins so maybe Bill is using the mid majors to toughen up those two for when we need them instead of just saying 'see, Bill is stubborn...'

Nov 22, 2024 06:35 PM #35

@MR11 said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

Counter argument to this: if Bill lets the players get away with mistakes/sloppy play, he is telling both that player and the rest of the team that there aren't consequences for bad plays. You also want to give the players feedback on these mistakes so that they don't become habits. Typically the sooner you get this feedback, the more impactful it is from a learning standpoint. Maybe letting the play a little more free flow helps in the short term, but it is always going to be better if you do so with proper muscle memory/habits built up. Maybe that means some players take longer to gel, but seems like trading short term gains for long term growth to me.

I feel like this is a take I've not heard a lot of but seems right on the mark. He lets the guys he trusts play through their mistakes because they've already had that feedback at some point and he trusts them to recognize that they made one while with new comers, they need to know what the mistake actually was. Immediate feedback IS key to learning so if they are tough enough to actually take some coaching it could pay dividends down the road.

And if Titles is all it is about, wouldn't it be better for the best players to be peaking at the end of the year rather than early? Use the early non-con to make sure everyone knows the expectations and then work to get to a spot where they can play more freely WITHIN the system when it really matters. I don't think Self is taking a short sighted approach trying to win meaningless games. He is looking long term at what will make the team most likely to be able to win the games that matter later.

Nov 22, 2024 08:11 PM #36

Who are we worried about not fitting in right away this season besides Storr? (Who is also putting up his most efficient season in his career…)

Nov 22, 2024 08:37 PM #37

My confusion over the comments in this thread was so puzzling that I unblocked a certain someone to see what was going on. My mistake.... Same ol' shit being spewed by the same ol' asshole for years now. Block Command, you are my hero yet again.

Nov 22, 2024 08:56 PM #38

Prior to Kansas, AJ Storr was known as a selfish ball hog who never played defense. And people think Storr didn't need to be broken down? AJ absolutely needed to be broken down from his bad habits so that he can be built back up into the NBA caliber player his talent suggests he should be.

Nov 22, 2024 09:46 PM #39

@mayjay LOL, I did the same thing.

Nov 22, 2024 09:47 PM #40

My take on Juan:

He is not most gifted aesthetically.

He doesn't shoot trey great.

But, somehow, KU look so much better when he is at PG.

Nov 22, 2024 09:47 PM #41

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don't think Badger fans viewed him as a selfish ball hog.

Nov 22, 2024 11:02 PM #42

@AsadZ said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

My take on Juan:

He is not most gifted aesthetically.

He doesn't shoot trey great.

But, somehow, KU look so much better when he is at PG.

He just makes the whole thing run infinitely better. It's fascinating.

Nov 23, 2024 12:11 AM #43

@wissox he has bad body language. It takes him awhile to switch to D from O. I think Self is doing a good job with him. He's a great reaper of good D. He has all the tools, just needs the want to. I think Griffen is close, his D is good, shot choice is better! Team guy! I like their chances.

Nov 23, 2024 12:34 AM #44

@BShark being smart is by nature difficult to quantify because adaptability is polymorphic

Nov 23, 2024 01:04 AM #45

@Crimsonorblue22 I agree. Seen it. Just thought Texashawk's assessment was a little harsh because I have a lot of good memories of him from last year, but playing at KU is an entirely different setting and I think he's adjusting to not being 'the man' like last year.

Nov 23, 2024 01:45 AM #46

@wissox They didn’t and it’s a reason he was the prized recruit of the transfer class

Bill wanted a guy who could hunt his shot and was athletic. He got him and then does the ole Bill Self get him so in his head that he’s thinking instead of playing…..tale as old as time

Instead of bringing the guy here and working to elevate what he’s already good at he tries to fix the 20% (defense and rebounding) that sucks and in turn brings down the 80% (scoring) positive parts for why we wanted him in the first place

Guys always play better when they are thinking versus just reacting. Guys always play freer when they think they won’t get yanked quick for one mistake.

Nov 23, 2024 01:48 AM #47

@FarmerJayhawk Wth are you even making up now????

Juan will hold records because of the cov yr - that’s true

Me watching practice??? When?

I do talk to some coaches but not anyone on staff

You and @BShark are the guys/gals that act like you have all the connections

I was in on Ingram for why he wouldn’t come here (cough cough kj)

Nov 23, 2024 01:51 AM #48

@Crimsonorblue22 When is his body language bad?

Juan missed him on an oop but they looked happy when he was shooting free throws

His body language is bad when he makes a mistake because he knows that directly correlates to how long he even has a chance to play ymca school in November

I’d be frustrated if I came in as a stud only to have the “dog” coached right out of me and instead of playing free I’m afraid to eff up for fear I get benched

All the while I watch guys bounced bad in the round for 32 multiple times get to make mistake after mistake and keep their minutes

Team chemistry is tough when coaches play favorites for who’s allowed to mess up and continue playing versus who can’t

Nov 23, 2024 02:31 AM #49

@kuballin10 please tell me where I said you watched practice. This sort of proves my point.

Nov 23, 2024 02:33 AM #50

@FarmerJayhawk said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@kuballin10 sure thing. Juan played 6 full years at KU so his stats will all have an asterisk, approx banned you for having an opinion, I talk to the coaches/watch practice, that's just off the top of my head. I could keep going if I thought harder.

Nov 23, 2024 02:34 AM #51

@kuballin10 sigh. This isn’t hard. I meaning me, myself, and I. Not you. This is basic English.

Nov 23, 2024 02:36 AM #52

@FarmerJayhawk Reread what you wrote because in that long run on sentence it was all the stuff I claimed so how I was supposed to know you switched to speaking about yourself is impossible

You don’t talk to the coaches or watch practice but sure big guy whatever makes you feel important!

Nov 23, 2024 02:48 AM #53

@kuballin10 😂 par for the course. Enjoy your night

Nov 23, 2024 02:50 AM #54

Alright can we move on please?

Nov 23, 2024 02:27 PM #55

@kuballin10 Storr came here to be built into an NBA caliber player. Self knows how to turn marginal NBA talent into draftable players. Storr has many bad habits and tendencies that need to be broken in order for Storr to reach his full potential to benefit himself and KU and reach the NBA. KU didn't need someone who only shot 43% from the field, 32% from 3, and had over 30% usage rate, and played no defense like Storr did last season. We are seeing Self in the process of breaking down Storr to rebuild him into his full potential and if successful, will pay big dividends in March. This a repeat of what we saw Self do with Remy when he came he with a similar reputation as Storr.

Nov 23, 2024 05:26 PM #56

@approxinfinity said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

Alright can we move on please?

Easily one of the funniest threads to not get locked at this point 😂

Nov 23, 2024 06:02 PM #57

Did anyone watch Zona vs Duke? Duke's defense won this one plus Bilas and the refs. They forced Zona into marginal to bad shots on every possession. Zona played their ass off but Duke was just better although Zona had enough stops they couldn't finish at the rim at all. Flagg was good but not great and got away with some things. He has confident that borders on arrogance. In the end Zona could not handle the full on pressure and could not run their offense. I didn't see any transition at all. Plus a lot of air balls on every kind of shot.

We will see how well we can handle the ball and who can go one on one and score or kick out. I dislike Duke but they have a ton of good players and if we can go Passmore deep into our bench it may be necessary.

Nov 23, 2024 06:10 PM #58

@Kcmatt7 gold mine. I'm not sorry for fanning the flames tbh

Nov 24, 2024 01:31 AM #59

@mayjay said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

My confusion over the comments in this thread was so puzzling that I unblocked a certain someone to see what was going on. My mistake.... Same ol' shit being spewed by the same ol' asshole for years now. Block Command, you are my hero yet again.

I was tempted to unblock as well, thank you for saving me from doing that!

Nov 24, 2024 02:28 AM #60

@BShark said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@BShark said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

If he needs a team full of guys he has had for 3+ years to do anything in March that is an issue.

This is the best way to analyze it and you didn’t fan any flames but exposed the truth. He doesn’t quickly develop players well because of how he coaches them. This isn’t an era to tear a guy down like Russ rob and spend 2 years building him back up.

I don’t get the hate or actually lack of general understanding that if on a job you had a boss looking over your shoulder ready to pounce for the slightest of mistakes how it would be impossible to play with a free mind

Nov 24, 2024 02:32 AM #61

@approxinfinity I can for sure but if you look at my posts it’s actual analyzation of his coaching tactics with specific players

@FarmerJayhawk doesn’t care to discuss but just drop his snarky comments cause he hates me

@jayballer67 doesn’t even respond with any actual discussion but goes on rants to anything anti KU I ever say

Should be noted neither ever comment on anything positive I say…like the Juan comment in the other thread about him attacking and being D1

But boy the second I question something that Coach Self HIMSELF is EVEN questioning…..geez you’d think all heck has broken loose

Nov 24, 2024 02:43 AM #62

@wissox @StLJhawk Ironically, one of the upvotes I got for my blocking post was from the person about whom I was referring. Makes me think he's a troll bot after all.

Nov 24, 2024 02:53 AM #63

When things go poorly fans look for someone to blame. Fans who do not understand basketball default to blaming the lowest-scorer. This is why DaJuan got a lot of hate last season. Since things have gone well so-far this year, fans have been able to just appreciate how good DaJuan is. But if things take a turn south fans who lack solid basketball analysis skills will blame DaJuan again.

Nov 24, 2024 04:16 AM #64

@Jhawk69 nailed it!!!! Clutch analysis

Nov 24, 2024 04:20 AM #65

@mayjay said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@wissox @StLJhawk Ironically, one of the upvotes I got for my blocking post was from the person about whom I was referring. Makes me think he's a troll bot after all.

A “troll bot” got it….best to block like a snowflake when you can’t even face reading alternative views

I upvoted it and was going to make a smart arse comment about if you can’t hang with the bulls in a real convo best to stay on the sideline bub….but I honestly hate empty garbage message board crap

Let’s discuss the team, how they are being coached, lineups, minutes ect. Not the minutiae like @jayballer67 who falls asleep on his CAPS LOCK BUTTON GOING CRAAAZYYYY RAMBLING ABOUT WHO KNOWS WHAT ONLY HIM

Nov 25, 2024 04:20 PM #66

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that sums it up well for Storr, he has the measurables to be in the NBA so if he was already a plus player that can positively contribute to a championship level roster in college, he would have been a 1st rd pick last year. Just letting him play free has been done before and it didn't get him there. There can be things to knock Self on with his coaching, but his treatment of Storr/Remy is not it.

Nov 25, 2024 04:28 PM #67

@kuballin10 your truly a trooper , have a great day.- - look no Caps yippee

Nov 25, 2024 10:25 PM #68

@SlimShaddy54 this @jayballer67

Geez how many handles do you have? I can’t KEEP UP!

Nov 26, 2024 12:49 AM #69

@kuballin10 Cool, that makes me happy. - -No seriously my compute crashed, had to do all my sites over again, it's ok, this computer is much better I won't even say anything in caps-- -- just for you lol

Nov 26, 2024 05:27 PM #70

@SlimShaddy54 agh that sucks to hear sorry man

I miss your all caps

Nov 26, 2024 07:31 PM #71

@kuballin10 said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@SlimShaddy54 agh that sucks to hear sorry man

I miss your all caps

ya it does, like i got spare change just laying around to go throw on another computer. Luckily was able to get a black Fridy deal.- yippee for me lol

Dec 01, 2024 12:48 PM #72

"D2" is making him look silly.

Dec 02, 2024 01:02 AM #73

@BShark This year - heck yes!!!

Last 4….not exactly

Juando is playing his best ball and it’s not even close - keep it up d1 all American

Dec 02, 2024 12:57 PM #74

@kuballin10 He was excellent two years ago. Last year he had a lingering foot injury and the overall roster wasn't very good. Last year was objectively his worst year.

Dec 02, 2024 05:57 PM #75

@BShark while I agree, I think Juando is playing as a much more complete player this year. I have yet to see him pass up a shot he should take. I cant say the same was true last year. his shot has improved, and he seems to be able to freeze time this year as he drives and makes the magic happen.

Dec 02, 2024 06:02 PM #76

If he keeps playing at this level we will be hard to beat. I hope and think Mayo will start shooting a bit better.

Dec 02, 2024 06:08 PM #77

@BShark A little concerned about Mayo. He was amazing early on but his games against elite competition have been a little concerning. Hoping he's really not just a very good midmajor player.

Dec 02, 2024 06:09 PM #78

@wissox his first half was great against Duke, second was forced and discombobulated

Dec 02, 2024 06:11 PM #79

@wissox he at least plays well and contributes when his shot isn't falling. Rebounding, passing, playing within the offense as well as creating unscripted. Self seems to love him which is interesting to me. One minute less than Juan and three less than KJ so far.

Dec 02, 2024 06:12 PM #80

He still was 3rd leading scorer i think against Duke. Hard to do that with one good half if you arent legit imo

Dec 02, 2024 06:13 PM #81

I don't think we have had anyone since maybe Devonte Graham who is hitting that late in the clock (and game, very clutch) middy off script against Duke.

Dec 02, 2024 06:15 PM #82

@wissox your concern is warranted, its early still. Could take a step back for sure

Dec 02, 2024 06:17 PM #83

@approxinfinity he has also gained 10 lbs

Dec 02, 2024 06:21 PM #84

Side note it's fun to be able to have good convos about the team again. Last year was rough

Dec 02, 2024 06:46 PM #85

@BShark :hundred_points:

Dec 02, 2024 06:56 PM #86

Biggest concern for Mayo is his defense. In the Duke game, he was the one consistently leaving Proctor open in the corner when he was scorching the net.

Dec 02, 2024 07:10 PM #87

@Texas-Hawk-10 yep very true. Hopefully thats just understanding his role and trusting his teammates.

Dec 02, 2024 10:04 PM #88

@Texas-Hawk-10 Leaving people open in the corner is a KU tradition. Almost as if there is no institutional memory of how Svi scored 90% of his points.

Dec 02, 2024 10:43 PM #89

@mayjay said in Early season feedback on kuballin’s off season analysis:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Leaving people open in the corner is a KU tradition. Almost as if there is no institutional memory of how Svi scored 90% of his points.

Even during the Furman game, it feels like KU plays 4 guys on d, while the opponent plays 5 and the 5th guy is always in the corner all by himself. Maybe that's by design since that open shot only goes in 20% to 40% of the time.

Dec 02, 2024 11:46 PM #90

I'm now giving a big "pat on the back" to all the posters in here that are often critical of everything KU basketball. Me included.

Somehow the wind of our stench has blown all the way back to our coaches and players... probably via some of the sports media helping carry the scent beyond our small, humble webspot.

Juan and KJ have turned it up a big notch! Maybe it's a case of senioritis... or just maybe, they woke up to the criticism leveled by many.

If those two stay turned up, we will be a very tough out against all D1 opponents.

So... maybe it's time we start snorting down Hunter's neck? lol

I guarantee everyone in here... the dude has another gear he isn't giving us yet. I bet he doesn't even know it's there. If the guy can reach down deep in that huge frame and pull out another 10% of hustle, this team will become a National Champion again!

So Hunter... you out there? I'm coming for you! I'm coming for that extra 10%! Your at the crossroads... this is where you turn left and get lost in the Jayhawk annals into nothingness... or you go right and bludgeon every opponent from here on out and retire a champion at KU basketball and become a LEGEND! Let me tell you what that is like... no wait.. give a call to Chalmers or Manning and ask them what its like to be a legend!

Dec 03, 2024 12:33 AM #91

I’m not sure how anyone could be disappointed at this stage of the season with whom we have played. Juan and KJ are arguably on their best 2 or 3 game stretch of their careers. Which is as expected they are seniors with a ton of experience. As I said in the game chat zero reason why Juan can’t be 8-8 or 10-10 guy every single night. He has been much more aggressive and not just with taking shots but driving the ball and passing. Storr and Griffen continue to improve on both ends of the floor. Still a fair amount to work out especially defensively as stated above we leave shooters open to often and are slow on rotations quite a bit too.

Dec 03, 2024 02:17 AM #92

@drgnslayr he’s been getting outplayed by flory. I wonder if it’s happening in practice and impacting his confidence. I imagine flory and coit pick and rolling Hunter to death with Rylan camping in the corner practice after practice.

While there is some scheming to be done to protect Hunter in The pick n roll (the blitzing of that is the current move) in the end it’s gonna come down to how much Hunter really wants to guard.

And to tack on to the Hunter criticism, he could still be doing more to rebound out of his area and we’ve for some reason not seen him seal a guy up the lane for the easy lob over the top for the lay in recently. Is that a trick bill is saving or just a lack of solid footwork and positioning as the ball swings?

Dec 03, 2024 02:57 AM #93

Hunters scoring, FG%, 3%, FT%, RB are down. His TO's, steals, and fouling are all trending in positive rates compared to the past. Could we get him back to 42% on 3's and 72% on FT's like he was at Michigan instead of 32 and 62 like he is this year, well that would help a lot. His rebounding this year dropping two per game over last year is a bit of a concern as well. He's huge, he should be grabbing boards like the past. The negativity associated with the Duke game will haunt him at a lot of B12 arenas in the months to come. He's going to need to toughen up mentally for that.

Dec 03, 2024 12:33 PM #94

This must be taught or schemed by the coaching staff, but it makes my blood pressure spike every time: KU center helps out guarding the opponent's point guard and gets outside the arc. Doke did this and now Hunter is helping out to pressure the point, sometimes trying to trap the guard clear out to the half court line. First, I worry about picking up a cheap foul and second who the hell is rebounding in the paint. With Doke, I admired his hustle. But, with Hunter his complete lack of hustle in all other facets, including walking down court after a made basket makes the trap defense seem outside his skill set. I really like Hunter, especially his quick, accurate outlet passing. I hate that refs ignore fouls against centers and let opponents hack Hunter in the paint. I remember Shaquille O'Neal saying he left LSU after his junior year because the refs let opponents triple team him and hack him. At 24, maybe Hunter is just done with enjoying the college game on most nights like the Furman game. That's what it looks like to me. His on-court mannerisms look like a guy who hates his job and is going through the motions. For now, I'll chalk up Hunter's morose play against Furman as a hangover from the ridiculous Flagrant 2 call and hope to see more hustle going forward.

Dec 03, 2024 02:42 PM #95

@wissox

The thing with Hunt is he always seems to be in a rush to shoot when he gets the ball. It's rare he's guarded when taking an outside shot so when I watch him rapid fire the shot up with plenty of time to gather, load and finish it's frustrating to watch. He does that a lot on his FT's as well, often missing the front end of a 1 & 1 or the first of a two shot foul. I know after 40+ games here it's just who he is. He should be a 70%+ shooter at the line, he's proven it in the past.

I've had the opinion for the past year now he misses shots by rushing the process too much. Some of his shooting % issues this year have been from missing dunks and shots around the rim. He will rush layups as well if guarded by someone with comparable size. Sometimes his quick trigger is a positive as he's able to get a short shot or an angle that the defense hasn't had time to react to but overall, I don't think it helps to keep him as efficient as he can be. I guess from watching him at Michigan for 3 years I had this expectation that he'd be an elite level playmaker with efficiency as his numbers there suggested he would. That hasn't been the case as much here.

He's still a top-level College Basketball Player but I think he gets a bit overrated with the "All-American" tag attached to his name. I've seen previous KU players that earned first team AA honors, and I don't think Hunt is a first teamer currently. Now if the Michigan St game is something we see 5-8 times over the course of the season, then that changes things.

Dec 03, 2024 02:43 PM #96

@stoptheflop Hunter being the last one down on offense after a defensive rebound is intentional because of 2 things. First, it keeps the lane clear while KU is bringing the ball up the court so our guards and wings can drive the ball into a clear lane for a layup. Second is that Hunter is a good enough outside shooter that if he's the trailer and left unguarded at the top of the key, he will take that shot.

Dec 03, 2024 04:29 PM #97

@Texas-Hawk-10 Only thing is , he hasn't proven himself while at KU on a consistent basis to take that outside shot that frequently. It also pulls him away from the basket dismissing the chances for rebounding as he is our top rebounder, and that's not good as we have a hard enough time trying to rebound without him being pulled out at times. I trust him a lot more down low Yet with him camping down low clutters the lane more to eliminate drives from the guards, double edge sword.
Very well could be true what you said about him being last down the floor on purpose , and yet been proven he is just slow period, been proven time and time again by getting beat on the perimeter on defense a liability on the defensive side, been proven to many times slow feet

Dec 04, 2024 05:33 AM #98

This is college basketball... not the old NBA days where every team had a monster in the paint and those gladiators would battle for every square inch of turf.

Hunter has 20+ ppg every single game if he's willing to armor up and bash bodies down low. Unfortunately, I think he prefers a finesse game.

Tomorrow will be a great test when he battles Kalkbrenner in the paint. We will see if he's ready for a battle.

Dec 04, 2024 12:15 PM #99

@drgnslayr I don't think they are even sure Creighton's guy is even going to play , last game out with some kind of injury

Dec 04, 2024 04:57 PM #100

@SlimShaddy54

I heard he's supposed to go limited minutes. Might be a bluff.