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Who can we protest to about announcers?

Gottlieb was his typical horrible... and what's his name (the other guy) was just as bad.

This is a thread to post up all the bad statements those guys had today.

My "favorites" include:

"Baylor just 20 minutes away from their first victory in Allen Fieldhouse..."

"They are going to need a second banner to put up all their championships." (as the camera showed 2 banners already hanging)

"That looked like a charge.... players can slide over and still get the charge." (Gottlieb's call when Mason was clearly fouled on his drive with around 5 minutes left in the game)

"Drew has to leave here satsified." (at the end of the game when Kansas pulled away with the win)

It was hard to follow any of the logic of these two clowns.

I thought Dougie was not as bad as usual. The "20 mins. away" comment was ridiculous, though. Why didn' he just say before the game started...."40 mins. away from their first victory"?
I have to disagree with you on the Mason call...I thought that could have gone either way.

@drgnslayr and calling us for the best flop he's seen in a long time! Can not stand him! Orange guy

Doogie God Love--the STD of sports broadcasting.

Drew CANNOT possibly be satisfied with this game. He was completely out-coached the second part of the first half and the second half. Dougie really lives in a "backwards" world.

@drgnslayr Doogie Snotlieb, the OSU buttboy. Your jealousy is so transparent, Doogie. They invented a word for guys like him...dickweasel...

@KUSTEVE

Hey.... OSU is just a mule's butt hair away from winning a B12 title! :-)

@drgnslayr Snotlieb is such a tool. He spent the entire game criticizing us. He wants to be Jim Rome when he grows up.

@KUSTEVE

PHOF x 2

@KUSTEVE

I'm so upset because at halftime, after I heard we were 20 minutes away from losing to Baylor, I burned all my KU memorabilia. Dang. Now I've got to go shopping this afternoon and start over.

@drgnslayr

I hear adidas has a two for one sale on some of those uniforms from two years ago.

@drgnslayr LOL.....anytime Doogie is on, I instinctively grab my wallet, because you never know when Snotlieb will get the urge to steal again ( like he did in college).

Loving these!! I was bout to have the big one, doogie and our game!!!

He also talked about "fools gold" new buzz words here.

@KUSTEVE

Yeap, expelled from Notre Dame...

@KUSTEVE good one!!

@drgnslayr I know! I thought that was kinda strange when he said those things.
Thats what you get when you can't put your shorts on right though.

Did anyone else find it interesting that Lucas was in the game late during crunch time? Then with the game in hand, they went small with Perry at the 5, Greene and Oubre 3 and 4. Interesting.

What did everyone think about how we played?
I thought they played a good game. Didnt shoot the trey as good as they could have but they made up for it by hitting the glass pretty good. Lucas seemed to be a pretty good match up inside against Gathers. That boy is big.

@Crimsonorblue22 Pardon my French, maam...but in my neck of the woods, people "take a doogie"...

@KUSTEVE HA!

A lot of people, once the hit the big time become too full of themselves and forget the past. Gotlieb and Ken Pomeroy are good examples. Dougie used to be be a a fairly decent commentator with decent conference knowledge, but the better known he became the bigger a-hole and homer he turned out to be. The pants backwards episode at AFH will always follow him and he will always resent KU undeservedly for that.

@Lulufulu I'm glad coach trusted Lucas and stayed w/him! They-Baylor died by the 3! Free throws were huge, glad we started driving!! And boards the most important! Haven't looked at stats yet so jmo!

@JayHawkFanToo Oh man...I meant to say this to you...I'm glad you mentioned Kenwrong- have you noticed his "magical" rankings shift for our defense? "Magically", we have been moved from 32nd to 18th in about a week. The Bookcooker is at it again.

@jaybate-1.0 said:

@drgnslayr

I hear adidas has a two for one sale on some of those uniforms from two years ago.

You mean those florescent baby $h!t ones?

@brooksmd they hurt my eyes! Didn't someone call them hi liters?

We rootin for ISU now?

Duggy.... like a nuggy... except brown not gold...

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@drgnslayr That's gross.

@drgnslayr oh my, bet he feels better!!!

@drgnslayr Ummm...is that Doogie at a family reunion?

@KUSTEVE having some fun! So happy we won!

@Crimsonorblue22

I call them gigantic glow-in-the-dark condoms...:)

@Crimsonorblue22

Me, too.. It was close and for a while I forgot we were playing against Drew....

@Crimsonorblue22 We were 1,200 lbs of screaming steel, and sex appeal...we never looked rattled the whole game - we KNEW we were going to win. And we all knew they would win, too.

@brooksmd I have a hard time ever rooting for ISU or osu!!!

@KUSTEVE

Pomeroy had OU and Baylor ranked ahead of KU...

Have you noticed that writers that used to cite his rankings no longer do it? They just cite some his number but avoid his rankings like the plague.

@Crimsonorblue22 You have to be strong....we need you to root for the Mildcats tonight against the Sooners.

@KUSTEVE got it!!!

Who was OUR hawk today?

@JayHawkFanToo Thats true for most, except dreamy eyed Topeka Journal sportswriters who are simply ecstatic Kenwrong will talk to them....

@Crimsonorblue22 OUBRE.......my man!!!! Loved Wayne as well... Landen was absolutely a force...

@KUSTEVE

I have called on Jesse a few times to justify Pomeroy's rankings and he did not reply. Cannot really justify it when KenPom is at odds with just about every other human and computer generated ranking out there.

@KUSTEVE does anybody think oubre plays effortlessly? Is he so smooth or could he turn it up? Lucas big kudos! Selden finally drives! That's what selfs was talking about!! Getting to the line too!

@drgnslayr forgot!! He made fun of Embiids weight!!!!

@Crimsonorblue22 It's like the old Carpenters song...with Oubre it is " We've Only Just Begun". He is just beginning to assert himself. Wait until tournament time- he will be an assassin.

Just got goose bumps about Danny's team!

@Crimsonorblue22

Perry had a strong game as well. If you take out Oubres numbers, the rest of the team shot 2-12 from 3 point. Coach Self looks like genius now wanting to improve the inside game for those times -like today- when the 3 is not falling. I wonder how the Coach Self's critics will spin this game.

@Crimsonorblue22 Hope his boys can pull it off.

@JayHawkFanToo Good luck with that. I'm wondering if Kenwrong gave Jesse a kenwrong decoder ring to make sense of his rankings. I visualize Jesse as Ralphie in the movie " A Christmas Story", sitting on the throne, trying to break the "code".

@JayHawkFanToo yeah!!! I wonder, they will find something! Did u watch the show on self? I have it saved, it looked good!

@KUSTEVE

ROTFLMAO!!!

@Crimsonorblue22

I recorded it, Now I need to figure out a way to get the video from the cable box to my computer for editing and getting clips.

"That was one of the worst flops from Selden. And I've seen some pretty bad ones from him"

@JhawkAlum oh man that made me mad!!!

@Crimsonorblue22 That was a great show. World class guy - the best of the best in his prime- it will give you shivers. Our coach is truly a humble man, a good man, and we're very, very lucky to have him.

@KUSTEVE I got his back every time!

I only get to Lawrence now and then. Where is the restaurant with the great wings?

@Hawk8086 Jeffersons, but there was a bad fire a couple of months ago. Bad! I know someone tweeted Embiid would be bummed not to go there this weekend.

@Crimsonorblue22 Assuming they re-open....where is it located? Mass St?

Yes, maybe 7 and mass?? Help? Just ate there in dec. kids like it!

@Hawk8086 fun place

@Crimsonorblue22 He might know quite a bit but he doesn't know nearly as much as he thinks he does. There is a reason why is radio show are way down in numbers. Everyone else is sick of him too!

@Crimsonorblue22

Most of us do. I don't get why some posters have the need to criticize and second guess everything he does, even with all the success he has had...do they really thing they know more than Coach Self? Wouldn't that be the epitome of arrogance...and... insecurity?

Looking at the box score...our only production was from Perry, Wayne, KO, with Lucas chipping in 9. Hardly anyone else scored much...we're usually a little more balanced. But...whatever it takes. I also noted that Baylor had a guy with 38 mins. and 3 with 34. We only had 1 guy with 34. That had to have helped us down the stretch. Lucas was great. He was what we needed inside. Got some boards, got to the line. He was key.

Even a better day to see Fran just do that!👏👏

@Hawk8086

No question Lucas contributed big today.

@Hawk8086 finals boards?

@brooksmd

HOWLING!

Was that the marketing name for that fabric? Or did you just make that up? :-)

@Crimsonorblue22

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@JayHawkFanToo to lazy to look, did we out board them! Free throws! Look how many Selden shot? Wayne got the message!!!

@Crimsonorblue22

Edited my post with stats for both teams...:)

@JayHawkFanToo I have to add ours?

@JayHawkFanToo 32 us 33 them? I'm sure we out boarded them 2nd half

@Crimsonorblue22 we win 32-30. we were 24 for 29 from the line...smokin'...

@Crimsonorblue22

Fixed it again...

@JayHawkFanToo Hmmm...CBS has Faylor with 30 boards. I like CBS version better...

@drgnslayr

Is that image a still from a soon to be released major motion picture called "Spore Man"?

@JayHawkFanToo thx! Looks like our 2 % went up! I hope I never hear fools gold again! We need to have both!!

@Crimsonorblue22

A different view...

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@Crimsonorblue22

No question that the inside (non 3-point) scoring saved the day.

@JayHawkFanToo Baylor had 3 guys w/lots of boards!

They are a good rebounding team, so I guess we did well to hang with them.

@jaybate-1.0 it's under

You all were right, Cliff is a starter.

@Crimsonorblue22

Baylor only played 8 players, one played just a few seconds when Medford fouled out.. 6 players used up 188 of the 200 minutes or 94% or available playing time.; that is one short bench...

In answer to the questions about whom to root for.....My philosophy is to root for ISU since they are the home team....if they win on the road that gives them an edge.....but they may not lose any more games and we still get WVU at home.
Either way, I'm hoping for an exhausting triple over time game.
I'm not too proud to take any advantage we can get for Monday's game.

I see "journeyman NBA player" written all over Rico.

I liked the game Landen Lucas put up.

When all else fails, go with the guy who has post fundamentals.

@Hawk8086 you are so wise! I go w/heart! Really dislike ISU!!

@drgnslayr Yep. But it beats "journeyman D League player" or "journeyman European player"
Like they used to say about Fred Patek of the Royas being the shortest player in the majors....better than the shortest player in the minors.

@Crimsonorblue22 Looks like that triple OT will not happen.

@drgnslayr like our man, Tarik Black!

@Hawk8086 maybe ISU will shoot and miss their way back out of it!!

@Lulufulu said:

Lucas seemed to be a pretty good match up inside

I've definitely changed my mind about Lucas. Used to cringe when he got the ball and now I'm happy to see him come in. Moving that big body better under the basket, 5 for 5 at the line and even a semi-flop to draw the third foul on Rico which he chuckled about.

Lot's of guys stepping up Oubre looked smooth, Ellis played strong all game, and Selden started to penetrate more finally. I thought Frank looked kind of beat up again, some bad shot selections, missed FTs and not finding guys open, but offset by some bulldog hustle as usual.

Self getting lots of exposure and love today was nice too.

All in all, nice game with a scrappy, but reliable Faylor.

@Jyhwk_InTigrtwn

Selden made a critical 3 to bring KU within 6 and Oubre followed with another 3 to make it a 3 point game; IMHO, that was the turning point of the game.

@JayHawkFanToo

He has a sweet three that's been falling with regularity lately and really helping us in tight spots like the one you mention. AND he got to the hoop a few times and drew some contact a few other times which hasn't been quite as regular as that long stroke has been. Great game from him and hope he keeps it up!

@Jyhwk_InTigrtwn

Lately, Selden has been hitting 3s at the most opportune times; hopefully he continues that streak...

@Jyhwk_InTigrtwn Frank did have 8 assists! He just had an off shooting day. He made 2 throws at the end, I think. Graham has not been shooting very well either. What's nice about this team, we usually have somebody hot. Takes awhile to find it sometimes, like Lucas today.

I don't know @drgnslayr, I really respect your basketball opinions and your great contributions to this site, but at least i get a little irked by our fans complaining about announcers.

I said on the JNews blog during the game the only time it's really bothered me was Billy Packer cheering for Memphis during the 08 game.

I don't listen that much to be honest. I thought he gave us a lot of respect today. Sure he disagreed with calls, but good grief, we all disagrees with calls! I know there's not a mic in front of us when we do it, but announcers tell it like they see it.

Just my two cents worth for what it's worth!

Great win by the way. I saw KU's baseball team in person today get whooped pretty good by LSU, but it was fun nonetheless.

@wissoxfan83 You see the Tulane win over Cincinnati today? Three pt shot barely cleared shooters hand when the horn sounded. Could be SC Play of the Day if they don't find something from Kenstinky blowout of SC.

@wissoxfan83

I only complained about that one call late in the game.

Actually, Duggy pointed out the one call where it was clearly out on Baylor under the goal, but the refs missed it.

These guys were getting on my nerves for just saying stupid things, not really about being anti-KU. Like the need for a second banner when the image on the screen showed two banners. Even my wife spouted out on that one, and she usually sits there in silence while tolerating my verbal tirades.

@Hawk8086 Agreed with you. Wanted to add the Douggie shorts episode.

@drgnslayr lol, oh man, thats just wrong.

@drgnslayr he drove me nuts, about calls and mostly comments, Embiids weight and worse flop......... Each to his own!

@Crimsonorblue22 I think Frank got his bell rung a little bit mid way thru the first half. I saw him come away from the base line after a foul with him holding his head for more than a few seconds.

@Lulufulu oh yeah! Never did see what happened did you?

@Crimsonorblue22

Thank you kindly.

@jaybate-1.0 find it?

@brooksmd

No I missed it, I did hear about it. I was at the KU baseball game. It wasn't going well, left when it was 8-1, missed a nice comeback but we still lost 8-5. KU's starter was pretty good today until the 4th, and then when I complained about the coach leaving him in too long, the reliever totally blows the game, he was a freshman, tough place to make a college debut and it was over.

I attended last night, and we played them pretty tough. A 3 run bomb was the big difference in the game.

@drgnslayr, I missed the banners comments. I guess my point is when I live blog with the gang on JNew's, people complain about the announcers, even before it begins. And I just get tired of it. Not nearly enough to sacrifice my membership in this fine KUBuckets organization however!

@Crimsonorblue22 Nah, never saw what happened to Frank.

@drgnslayr
I thought the worst was at the end of the game when Gottlieb corrected his announcer after he said this win probably helped KU towards their eleventh big 12 title. He began to list all these qualifiers such as the amount of games KU would need to lose and the amount of games other teams would have to win. He concluded this by saying it was still possible for another team to share the title with KU. Of course this is true but it seems sillier each win we have for these announcers to continue to come up with these fantastical scenarios where according to Doug another team could unimpressively be an asterisk next to our eleventh straight big 12 title.

It's a much bigger deal whe Kansas loses. Not such a big deal when Kansas wins. That is the monster that Kansas Basketball has become. I'm Good with that.

Yesterday, I thought I was possibly just irritable because the announcers were getting under my skin with about every comment. It was so bad, I thought about starting a KUbuckets topic on it. Then I thought: what a silly thing to start a topic on when it was probably just me that the announcers were annoying the hell out of.

@wissoxfan83 There are worse things than being irked. I get "irked" when an OSU homer runs us down all game, as he has done every game he's called for KU for years. Of course, unlike you, I actually watched the game.

My wife and I just turned down the volume after the stupidity irked us enough. Think it was right after the "worst flop ever". My response was "dougie, your precious Smart is the most prolific flopper of all time. Might end up in the Hall for it. Or get an Emmy."

@KUSTEVE I guess if you're looking for an OSU homer, you'll find an OSU homer. Not sure where you get your info, but, I did actually watch the game,

And once again, you, and @Blown directly above your post prove my point. You're getting irked, annoyed, irate, etc over what an announcer says. Who cares what they say? There's plenty to get irked about during a game, like passes to the stands, 3 pointers with no rebounders, etc. Why let what some announcer says irk you?

@wissoxfan83 part of the game watching experience for me is listening to commentators. I appreciate gaining perspective from their remarks. I'm thankful that I have you to tell me what should and shouldn't bother me based on the expectations of an experience that I have.

@Blown said:

@wissoxfan83 part of the game watching experience for me is listening to commentators. I appreciate gaining perspective from their remarks. I'm thankful that I have you to tell me what should and shouldn't bother me based on the expectations of an experience that I have.

Maybe my opinion is that I can't understand why mistakes made by 18 and 19 year old amateurs (throwing balls into stands) would irk you so much.

Well I sure don't want to get into a pissing match here so go ahead, let the announcers irk you and I'll let the players irk me!

@wissoxfan83 now that is what I call win-win negotiating :)

@Blown I've been on Ku boards for years, and have never found anyone that ever defended Snotlieb until this one. Wearing the OSU colors, and making reference to it was the first clue.

Heck, for me, a portion of entertainment for gamecasts is looking at mannerisms and listening to the inane commentaries of such courtside comics as Doogie Gee and Dickie Vee. That tie of Doogie's was a bit over the top. At least he did not tie it backside forward!

@REHawk LOL....When I think of Snotlieb, I think of the little ditty " pants on the ground"...

I know this is a dead topic, and I know I threw a divergent opinion on this topic, but now Gottlieb has crossed the line for me, so erase I ever said here. I hate the guy!!

http://gottlieb.radio.cbssports.com/2015/03/02/jon-rothstein-want-a-rematch-between-wisconsin-and-kentucky/ ↗

@wissoxfan83

"Doug Gottlieb believes Kentucky junior forward Willie Cauley-Stein should be named National Player of the Year"

Yeah right..... Willie is averaging a whole 9.1 ppg, 6.4 rpg.

What a friggin' joke! If you are going to run a platoon.. then you should be sacrificing the personal accolades for players. 9.1 ppg and 6.4 rpg doesn't put you near the category of NPOY. Not even in the conversation. You can't be a part-time worker and get full-time benefits.

Kaminsky averages 18.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg. And he definitely plays a more integral role for his team. Frank gets hit with double and triple teams to earn his points. Willie is just another option on a team of McDs AAs.