Ok who saw the pair of guns that walked behind Franchilla's head!?!
Missed that...I've got one eye on KU-KSU volleyball. Hawks leading 2 sets to 1, and about to close it out in the 4th.
New uni's !
Tough match here, hope the boys are ready
We get the ball to start the 2nd half...again,..
@Crimsonorblue22 First game in white this tourney?
@tundrahok they r called iced out
Nice D Wayne
I invited my nephew here who is a Vandy student. He says he does what we're doing on some Vandy site
Size is bothering us.
Perry totally intimidated by height
Nothing close to a good look yet. This one is going to be a test for Ellis.
The 3 is going to have to be what wins this for us tonight.
Perry is totally freaked out by players taller than him...
Ugly game so far.
So early on it looks like we checked out after last night.. you can see it they are stiff out there
@wissoxfan83 But they are ball switching, looks almost like a zone at times.
@wissoxfan83 Certainly doesn't look like we are going to win it in the paint. Bad match ups with Ellis and Traylor.
Not even half the energy we had last night. It has to pick up fast
How many goofy time zones are we gonna play in this year?
Interesting that Lucas in for Ellis, not Traylor.
What an ugly sequence
Weave highly successful there
LL first big off the bench...argh....
Bout time
Getting over with real quick
We are lost out there.
How about a little D somebody !
Jam Tray and LL need to sit indefinitely
Self better light a fire soon or this is going to become unwatchable
WTF IS GOING ON OUT THERE!?!?!? Why are we all of a sudden playing at a snail's pace? No more running, no more pushing the pace. They have these huge guys on their team, get them tired by making them run the floor. We clearly can't score inside. Our best shots will come in transition!
Jamari in lalaland
How many cross court passes already. That's a great sign.
What's an 0 13 shooter do, he naturally makes everything
Double dribble? What is this Junior Hi?
@wissoxfan83 he's close
Another LL airball from 2 feet....
Man, LUCAS IS SO BAD at making layups. I don't know what Self sees.
We're not threatening 100 tonight
Where are the leaders of this team?
Lucas with the ball open at the top of the key but can't do anything with it. Thats why you need Bragg or Mickelson in there. To take and make the open shot.
Selden
Selden is leading KU back.
Here we go, pace heating up a little bit...
At the last timeout Self told them practice tomorrow, no turkey if they don't win this game.
Wow that game changed quickly
There's some heart! Finally
Better
@RockkChalkk Need to keep this pace - not going to win a half court game.
Rebounding:
KU 1-7 Vandy 3-13
They look better when they play faster
Make their big guys run the court. If they want to bring in the trees then they will get run off the floor.
When Selden makes shots it really pumps the team up its infectious
Lead us wayne
12 minute mark, I felt like saying HEY COACH, you need offense and rebounding out of your bigs, Put in Bragg and Mickelson!
Svi got his pocket picked but came back next play and assisted to Wayne for a BIG trey. Nice hustle KU! Rock Chalk!!
@BeddieKU23 Pumps up the fans too!
Perry still hasn't found a pump fake he likes
Lucas still hasn't found a rim he feels like hitting
See how off LL is w his shot! No touch
Mick and Bragg 2 boards already!!!!
Nice run, then we've gone stagnant on offense, but they're really stuck fortunately for us.
SEE!! SEE!! Put Bragg and Mick in and they get 2 offensive boards. BAM! Just like that! Man, I should be an assistant coach.
This seems too simple
@BeddieKU23 volleyball
Rebounding, reversing ball, playing like a competent D1 player
A little press action - love it!!!!
I guess ESPN didn't want us to see what just happened because they wanted us to see Vandy's 1986 maui champs
Press with HM/CB in...lots of great energy from Mickelson.
JOnes had to do something wrong on that layin
Jones had about 5 seconds in the lane before that foul
I like having Bragg in there but he needs to be more under control when feeding the low post. I made a note about that last night. He is a little too quick and isn't seeing the pass first.
So not exacty great outside shooting on that last series.
who thinks it speaks Volumes having Bragg and Mick in there right now???
Has perry scored yet?
It looks as if Mick lacks some brains, too, at times.
WHY are Ellis and Traylor back in at the same time?????
Sviiiiiiiiiii
Perry just shot a Lucas
What an ugly half and down 2. I'll take a half time adjustment for 500 please
Defense has been good although some of our best has been them missing
This is a big boy game. Big boy games are for closers, not for wussies!!
@BeddieKU23 So what will Kevin Stalling's 1/2 time adjustments be?
We've had nine guys in the game - everyone with a rebound except one -- guess who?
5-9 threes, 3-17 two-pt shots
Vandy's defense is going to make us earn this.
Good news is that we are not playing well but are still in good shape. We are going to wear them down.
Mick hustles and tries hard, but he is out of control a lot of the time.
And now there shots start falling..jeez
Finally tie it up, now down 6 again. I just don't like how this is going
I put the over on shots that missed the rim at 10
Nm
Ugly half. Lucky to only be down by 4.
What are Self's half-time adjustments?
Was that JT who took that last shot?
All things considered, happy to be down just 4. Definitely outplayed in every facet in the first half.
Franks fault there
Nothing short of a 180 after the half will win this game. Our shooting %has to be around 30 which won't win this game no matter how many shots vandy misses
@RockkChalkk 4 feet? Early in the game he made a nice move inside for a layup and banked it so hard it didn't even draw iron!
@BeddieKU23 50% from 3, 24% from 2!
Starting bigs are scoreless.
Wayne is putting us on his back. He needs to continue that next half. Devonte and Mason need to make it happen, move the ball. Perry needs to drive to score and create contact! He isnt gonna score over their footers.
Traylor and Lucas need to sit.
Mick and Bragg need to rebound and rim protect and stretch the floor.
@tundrahok said:
Starting bigs are scoreless.
Which is why we are all freakin' calling for Self to pull his head out of his ass.
@wissoxfan83 Right, don't get me wrong, I would prefer he didn't take any shots but to say he should never shoot would have sounded a little unrealistic. He has some nice drives sometimes and can finish occasionally in that way so I thought 4ft was a reasonable line to draw, lol.
@tundrahok No. Lucas had a put back
The threes are keeping us in it.
Only 3 fouls against them and I think they had 2 very early, so 1 foul over the balance of the half?
2 for 11 for our leaders yikes. That's usually the recipe for losing
@SoftballDad2011
You need to charge your phone. Lol
There length has changed our driving ability
Umm, yeah, but Mick, Bragg and Lucas have combined for 2 points. And Bragg and Mick have both looked outmatched.
What if we went the ISU type of lineup and started Svi instead of Traylor? Its not like our bigs rebound anyways. They can't score either. Wonder how that would work out.
All our bigs, starters/subs total of 2 points from the field.
Break out the chorus of our struggles against the L&A's.
Our rebounding is keeping us in the game, especially defensive RB's
I get that we need LLs size. But to run plays for him or to ask ANYTHING of him except D and Reb is asinine
Stands to reason that Vandy will put pressure on our weakness this game which is post presence scoring and rebounding. They'll pack it in and dare us to beat them from 3. Which is why we need Bragg and Mick down low for some length and rebounding.
They are bailing out on shots to get back on d which has taken away running.
Turnovers have killed us which wasn't a problem in the first 4 games
9 TO's are probably our highest of the year...size has us out of sync.
We only shot one free throw. Need to drive.
Your battery is down to 36%
@DinarHawk said:
@Bwag Ellis needs to play outside in.
He would still be shooting over length unless open. He needs to show up and find ways to get his shots instead of what the d is making him take
@BeddieKU23 said:
Tired legs too.
But hard to buy that at all since everyone has played 3 games now in 3 days.
If that's truly the case, then it's on Self and his playing time distribution. But against Chaminade he played a lot of people early. Just not sure what minutes ended up being.
Remember, Jam Tray deferred possession till 2nd half
@BeddieKU23 But so should Vandy? It's a wash.
What? There was a jump ball?
At least Traylor isn't starting the second half.
Now that I saw the replay of the last series of 1st half, what the hell was JamTray doing coming off the screen around Mason's attempt to drive?
Who drew that up?
Were going to wear them down.
@BeddieKU23 They are ranked and have been dominating just like us.
If there wasn't history of our struggles against Length with this group of players I'd buy it, but I won't now.
That said, we got the lead, and Ithink we'll both take that.!
YESSS, they are playing zone now. Much better for us.
Thank God for fools gold so far.
I say again, Big Boy Game
Davis just said this is the 1st time Vandy has trailed in this tournament...bout friggin time-Yeeaaahhhh!!
@RockkChalkk Its been a few years since KU could carve up a zone like this.
Perry can dunk!!!
Zone didn't last long.
DG way too quick to shoot
WUG Selden!!!!
I'd take a 7 pt win...
WUG WAYNE IS BACK! :sunglasses:
Reminder of when Duke travelled to a Maui victory over KU
I'm worried about your battery
Ankles broken
Wayne Selden that's the guy right there
Selden just crossed that guy big tme
@globaljaybird said:
@Bwag Them fools won the gold at the WUG...
Take that along with the fact that we had 2 points from our bigs in the 1st half, I guess we can only hope that our Coach will recognize this FACT about our team and start to scheme for maximizing it's effectiveness instead of getting nervous and trying to slam the square peg in his round hole again this year.
Wayne!! Shake and Bake mutha Effer!!
we're eating them alive ....
What does NTW mean?
Good to know! Where do you live?
Great offense execution
Should have been an and 1 for DG - got hip-checked.
The Google just told me it's a carrier in Salina
If you can't go over 'em, go under 'em...
We've got them flustered They haven't seen adversity yet this year.
Hey Brooks!
So had been reading team stats backwards:
We are killing them on the boards...Go figure though, Perry, Seldon &Graham leading us...
@wissoxfan83 Sup?
Cool! Played smoky hill in the late 80's
@SoftballDad2011 Hays is the coldest place on earth.
@wissoxfan83 Will have over 20 here tmrw so will definitely be using some a/c.
Just noting that almost 10 minutes in and no Svi, Bragg or Mick. Typical shorter bench for Self in the 2nd half. Hope we don't get gassed later.
@globaljaybird Compared to what we're talking abot Paulo's squeeze were mere 38's.
FOOLS GOLD !! YYEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!
About where we were in the Michigan state game when Self got tight on offense
SELDEN !!!!!!!!!
@wissoxfan83 I get that - just not sure it would be any different if we weren't playing as well...
Jamari line:
0/2 1 RB 1 TO ....how many minutes and explain why?
Really need a stop
This game should be a great test of our ability to close out a close one
the bank is open !!
Shift change!
Svi can get some funky angles on his passes
I don't ever desire to become rich, but if I became rich, one splurge would be Maui when KU plays there.
Got it, KuSTEVE!
Wayne and Frank got that mean streak goin tonight.
Agree with Fran, no foul there.
What a horse crap call on bragg
Makeup call?
@wissoxfan83 If you come across a large sum of money i'll take it off your hands if you don't want it! haha
Looks like we're in "attack the basket Offense." Oh boy
I like the D though!
RUN THE COURT BIG FELLA !
Sweet pass. He's showing some passing skills thus far.
Bragg gave it up. Sweet!!!
nice assist Bragg !
JamTray gets first bucket of the night on the Assist from Bragg.
Bragg growing up quick
Bragg can PLAY!!!!
Seriously, a shooting foul?
Somehow with Bragg in there, and earlier with Bragg/Mick, just alot more activity going on.
Bring in Mick
Mason should learn a little about running some clock instead of forcing up a crap prayer like that.
Jam Tray has 2 fouls better sit him so he doesn't pick up his 3rd
I HATE THAT STUPID WEAVE PLAY!!!! UGGGGHHHHHHH
Second time that Traylor has thrown it away on the weave.
@RockkChalkk That was a SICK steal and coast to coast for a bucket by Bragg
Omg wow
And after using the useless weave this is a game again
Obviously, Even the players hate the weave
Not sure how that was a trip...seems Graham should have as much right to get a foot down in front of the other player.
Starting to slip away?
It's the worst offensive play you can run
@BeddieKU23 It's actually quite useful - for the other team....
@SoftballDad2011 We're taking low percentage shots, that's why it's slipping a bit.
Selden gets bailed out on a foolish drive
The big man rotation really pisses me off.
@BeddieKU23 Reverting to old, bad habits. How many minutes since we've taken a 3 pt shot???
@JessieNewell, please ask Self how Traylors stat line continues to justify his extensive minutes,,,
God - I'd rather have Lucas in there than Traylor.
Traylor standing watching again
Wasn't a bad defensive series despite the rebound and points. Good d and milked a lot of clock. Score here and we'll be set!
Self loves this kind of score
Vandys runnin outta time...
GREAT take by Graham!
Crunch time and Coach puts in our WORST post players for this game???
Offensive execution has been putrid the past 5 minutes. We get a nice lead and then let off the gas - make it easy for the other team to get stops. We've been bailed out on a couple of the foul calls.
Never thought we could be in this position with Perry being a relative non factor
Snacks looks hungry
KU, World Champs and Maui Champs!!
Block out the little guy
@SoftballDad2011 said:
Never thought we could be in this position with Perry being a relative non factor
His 8 rebounds against the length has been much more impressive than his Offensive output against it.
Wayne running out of gas.
Why does ft shooting always haunt us
4 straight missed FTs and matador D by Traylor. WHY can't we put teams away?????????
No Vick tonite
Wrap it up, frank
Bulldog can make FT's
'96-'97 team that won in Maui last time...best KU team to never win a title?
The difference tonight ispretty much summed up in our RBmargin and 3pt shooting.
Thank you mari
Time for a little celebratory Crown 75th.
Great win what a turnaround
@nwhawkfan best ku team period
That's my vote...86 a close 2nd
Jamari got a rebound!
WAVE THE WHEAT HULA STYLE !!!!!!!
Good win!
Good game. I hope we don't see them again in March.
Best result of this game is we get to see Diallo in the next game!
Happy turkey
Thx all!!'
Everybody have a great Turkey Day,,,see you in the Diallo Era !
@nwhawkfan I'd put up the 85-86 team against them and it'd be a tie.
@BeddieKU23 Was a really good win against a good team. But, we will lose games that we shouldn't if we continue the pattern of resorting to driving to the basket as our only offense when we're in tight games. Start missing FTs and the other team hits a couple of shots, and, just like that, a lead and game can be lost.
Take the win; still hate the big man rotation. Come on Self, quit torturing us.
Selden played 40 minutes. Pretty hot and humid in Maui. Guess I can forgive the missed free throws at the end. He was tired.
Not many assists tonite
@SoftballDad2011 Thanks for the stats updates. That's a nice addition to this.
@wissoxfan83 sure.....happy to help!
will have to do it while listening instead of watching next week as I am blacked out.
Not sure if you like using these sites, but stream2watch is quite good. I watch all my Bears games on it that aren't televised, and watched a ton of White Sox games on it this season as well. As long as you put your pop up blocker on it works well. Don't need to download anything even though you get bombarded with messages to download this viewer or that.
I've never used it for KU basketball though as I'm in a place where ESPN3 works for KU. Hopefully it works for you.
Thanks!
Hilite for me was toasting a JHawk Maui Championship with my son and nephew with some Crown 75th. RCJHGKU!!! You fair weather fans can suck it!!!