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Looks like he is committing Friday. Ayala is committing Saturday, so he won't spoil it either way. I legit think Ayala does not know, and his decision hinges on Dotson.M

For all the love Ayala claims to have for Maryland waiting until Saturday so he knows where Dotson is going would certainly say the opposite

Also tifwiw but Matt Scott put out a piece on Samuell Williamson and put in a CB pick for him. Oddly not the first, which was Dain Ervin. I think it boils down to if the kid is a take, and he might just be.

If Zion or Grimes end up picking KU this early decision may favor KU. I'm not saying Devin will land at KU, just KU having no high profile 1-3 commits yet helps.

Dotson and Grimes would be a great tandem in my opinion. I hope it plays out.

Man that team is going to have a lot of fresh faces.

With everything happening with this FBI investigation, this could be a situation where there are only so many life boats off a growing number of Titanics. Louisville is toast. Arizona is in trouble. The investigation is still going. If a couple more programs get dinged on this, you could see lots of guys scrambling to get out of bad situations. That means lower ranked guys need to commit quickly to guarantee their seat, otherwise when transfers start happening, they won't have anywhere to go.

Either way, buckle up.

BShark said:

Also tifwiw but Matt Scott put out a piece on Samuell Williamson and put in a CB pick for him. Oddly not the first, which was Dain Ervin. I think it boils down to if the kid is a take, and he might just be.

Now who is this Samuell Williamson? = =ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

A basketball player. :smile:

@BShark Ohhhhhhh - -we got jokes -- lmao - -gotcha. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 I've mentioned him a few times before.

@jayballer54 he is a 2019 guy, visited KU unofficially for late night

6'6'' (currently) lengthy guard that can shoot it. Mom and older brother are KU grads. He is looking to come up for a game or two this year. Climbing the rankings after a good summer. Top 100-ish atm. With continue improvement, maybe 60-75 ranking range.

@BShark Can't lose guys like him. Perfect 4 year role guys (in state right?). Especially a kid like him with a lot more upside than probably most guys ranked in his same range.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Can't lose guys like him. Perfect 4 year role guys (in state right?). Especially a kid like him with a lot more upside than probably most guys ranked in his same range.

Texas so not in state but if KU wants him, they should definitely be able to get him.

Interesting recruiting story ↗ about KU target Zion Williamson"s measurements; the dude is huge...

Interesting predictions here ↗, like KU winning the conference by 3 games. I believe KU should and will win the conference comfortably but by 3 full games? I am not sure that will be the case considering how solid the conference is.

@JayHawkFanToo I'm on team el poyo this year, the rest of the league is pretty garbo.

The same guy that cb picked Dotson to MD put in a MD cb for Ayala. Makes sense...in that he is hedging.

@BShark I'll 3rd that. WVU will be down. UT will be up, but by how much? OU will be up, but by how much? OSU lost their best player, down. Tech should be solid, but basically the same team as last season, slightly up (6-12 conference record). TCU same as last season unless someone takes a big step up. KSU will blow pretty hard it looks like. ISU solid, but I'm not scared of them without Hoiberg or their best two players. Baylor lost their best player and didn't even have that great of a season last year once conference play started. I mean, honestly, who is going to lose less than 6 games in conference play? We won last season by 4 full games. I expect us to probably do the same. Honestly, I expect this team to have no more than 1 loss in conference play this season providing we stay healthy the entire year. And I don't expect anyone to have less than 6 losses again this year. If I were an oddsmaker, I'd set the line at 4.5.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark I'll 3rd that. WVU will be down. UT will be up, but by how much? OU will be up, but by how much? OSU lost their best player, down. Tech should be solid, but basically the same team as last season, slightly up (6-12 conference record). TCU same as last season unless someone takes a big step up. KSU will blow pretty hard it looks like. ISU solid, but I'm not scared of them without Hoiberg or their best two players. Baylor lost their best player and didn't even have that great of a season last year once conference play started. I mean, honestly, who is going to lose less than 6 games in conference play? We won last season by 4 full games. I expect us to probably do the same. Honestly, I expect this team to have no more than 1 loss in conference play this season providing we stay healthy the entire year. And I don't expect anyone to have less than 6 losses again this year. If I were an oddsmaker, I'd set the line at 4.5.

I'd summarize with the fact that TCU might be the 2nd best team in the league. They will probably finish 4th or 5th, but still, you could make the argument.

I think ISU is a year away fwiw, they could be scary next year.

I see KU with 4 losses this year. Kentucky, 2 times to west virginia, and one to texas. I love me some DG, Newman, and Vick; but, the I don't see how they consistently break the press against WVU and not have 25 turnovers. We've truly been spoiled with point guard ball handling skills over the last several years and the aforementioned don't cut it for me in a pressing situation. KU will have 2 weaknesses this year as compared to recent memory:

1. the ball handling as mentioned.
2. When the shots aren't falling and a play maker taking control and driving the basket for a contact layup and/or a foul.

3 full games is a tall feat. I do like TCU coming in second and WVU coming in 3rd. Each will have 4-5 losses each in conference I'd reckon.

bmensch1 said:

I see KU with 4 losses this year. Kentucky, 2 times to west virginia, and one to texas. I love me some DG, Newman, and Vick; but, the I don't see how they consistently break the press against WVU and not have 25 turnovers. We've truly been spoiled with point guard ball handling skills over the last several years and the aforementioned don't cut it for me in a pressing situation. KU will have 2 weaknesses this year as compared to recent memory:

1. the ball handling as mentioned.
2. When the shots aren't falling and a play maker taking control and driving the basket for a contact layup and/or a foul.

3 full games is a tall feat. I do like TCU coming in second and WVU coming in 3rd. Each will have 4-5 losses each in conference I'd reckon.

WVU has almost no guard depth. If they have fouls called on them that should be called (much likelier to happen at AFH) they are in trouble.

I'd call for a split here. Probably will lose in Morgantown.

The next time Shaka beats KU at Texas will be the first.

KU will of course lose some games, but predicting which they will be good prove difficult. I could see them beating Kentucky but then losing the before Christmas game to Stanford for example.

Who the go to playmaker is will be an interesting adventure. I don't think it's Graham but Self likes to put the ball in the hands of his seniors. I think Newman, Preston and maybe Vick could all be guys you ask to get their own bucket. Not necessarily by driving to get to the cup like Frank though. Newman in particular is more, make a move to hope to free up space for a jump shot.

@bmensch1 Nobody had less than 6 losses in conference last season besides KU.

Well has something leaked out? - -Saw off 247 at 3:00a.m. this morning that Eric Ayala is picking up CB movement for Maryland. He picked up 3 CB'S yesterday for Maryland. - -From Charlie Strauzer , Dain Ervin & Jerry Meyer.

I know nothing coming out of Dotson camp but if he has predicted Maryland , and/or maybe Maryland staff has found out Dotson not coming this could be why. -Obviously if he is waiting till Saturday this might be why a trend now starting to show.

Maybe my boy STILL lands here , hoping Friday is good. - -Awsome if Dotson commits Friday and Grimes is here on campus this weekend. Starting to worry just a tad with Grimes and fricken Texas. - -We need to sweep him off his feet this weekend , thank GOD the football game is at Iowa State. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54

Maybe, but Ayala is deciding this week while Dotson still hasn't decided on a date and the way things are going I doubt he does this week at this point.

This could also be related to Keldon Johnson pushing his commitment back and UK lurking for him. Ayala knows there is only a few spots open at Maryland and doesn't want to miss out. I think Ayala committing to Maryland Saturday and Dotson waiting helps us too

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

Maybe, but Ayala is deciding this week while Dotson still hasn't decided on a date and the way things are going I doubt he does this week at this point.

This could also be related to Keldon Johnson pushing his commitment back and UK lurking for him. Ayala knows there is only a few spots open at Maryland and doesn't want to miss out. I think Ayala committing to Maryland Saturday and Dotson waiting helps us too

Huge UK run for Keldon Johnson. Hopefully Cal knows that Grimes is KU bound. :grinning:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

Maybe, but Ayala is deciding this week while Dotson still hasn't decided on a date and the way things are going I doubt he does this week at this point.

This could also be related to Keldon Johnson pushing his commitment back and UK lurking for him. Ayala knows there is only a few spots open at Maryland and doesn't want to miss out. I think Ayala committing to Maryland Saturday and Dotson waiting helps us too

I had heard that Devon was making his announcement Friday? - His dad was talking about it also. - Bottom line like you say IF he doesn't that just helps us more I think. - If Ayala commits to Maryland this weekend before Devon well if think that sure pushes Devon more our way you would think. Also I have seen off the shiver that Grimes is here. - I didn't think he was suppose to be here till this weekend wasn't he? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54

Yeah his dad did mention it but nothing has been confirmed by them either.

I believe Matt said Grimes gets here Thursday night and his visit runs through Saturday

This was the last relevant actual update on Dotson...

In Devon Dotson news- According to his father Dana, no announcement date has been set yet but he did say "I think he's close."

When asked if a decision could come this week after Devon tweeted "Big week ahead!" Dotson said "it still could."

Even if he doesn't announce his decision by the end of the week it is still a big week for Devon. It's Homecoming week.

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

Yeah his dad did mention it but nothing has been confirmed by them either.

I believe Matt said Grimes gets here Thursday night and his visit runs through Saturday

See that is what I thought to, but on the Shiver one of Matt's thread is titled - - HE is here. - I dunno. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Norm and Self going to NC today to check in with the Dotsons.

BShark said:

Norm and Self going to NC today to check in with the Dotsons.

Going in for the Win!

I think they will know their decision today

Looks like Maryland is going to see him as well.

Sounds like they are telling the staff's their decisions..

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Norm and Self going to NC today to check in with the Dotsons.

Going in for the Win!

I think they will know their decision today

Agree. Maryland staff is checking in today too.

Yea the way it sounds. Devon is meeting with both coaching staffs today to let them know his decision. I'm sure he will announce soon.

looks like things are finally heating up!!

@BeddieKU23 The thermometer on this recruitment has now broke.

My prediction is that he's going to Louisville.

Maryland stalkers noticed he followed

Josh Fendrick

Manager, Video Programming @BleacherReport | #SurvivorBoy and #ProducerKid on @SimmsAndLefkoe | #goTerps #goRU

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 The thermometer on this recruitment has now broke.

So now looking more likely then not we should know something this week. Maybe I need to call my boy - -let him know I've been riding his train from the get go. - He needs to man up and become the next PG with our beloved Jayhawks - -Don't let me down now Devon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

Maryland stalkers noticed he followed

Josh Fendrick

Manager, Video Programming @BleacherReport | #SurvivorBoy and #ProducerKid on @SimmsAndLefkoe | #goTerps #goRU

Well, this certainly isn't good.

Thread has been appropriately renamed.

Followed where? Not twitter. Maybe instagram?

RockkChalkk said:

Followed where? Not twitter. Maybe instagram?

https://twitter.com/d_dotson1/following ↗

@BShark Weird, it doesn't show up like that on mobile. It doesn't show him as his most recent follow. If correct though, that certainly would be a very very bad sign for KU.

@BShark but that's people who is following Devon- - not Devon following people - this guy is following Devon - NOT Devon following him - this moron can follow anyone lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

"He actually followed two Bleacher Reports guys and the other one has nothing to do with Maryland. So probably has nothing to do with Maryland and more to do with an interview or how he's announcing his commitment or something."

Follow up post

Its sickening to think that he could make that choice. Winning must not be important. Development must not be important. Publicity/Spotlight must not be important. Playing time must not be important. Tradition/history must not be important.

Playing with a buddy, that must be the most important thing. :nauseated_face:

Let's not get paranoid this doesn't mean squat as far as I'm concerned. - This guy following Devon if anything following to see if he can getan inside scoop about where he is leaning or committing. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

@BShark but that's people who is following Devon- - not Devon following people - this guy is following Devon - NOT Devon following him - this moron can follow anyone lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Following is who he follows. Followers is who is following him.

Ahh, if he comes to Lawrence I'll welcome him with open arms. If he goes elsewhere I'll wish him the best and enjoy watching him lose to KU if/when they play.

I don't see where he's following this person having checked a few times..

RockkChalkk said:

jayballer54 said:

@BShark but that's people who is following Devon- - not Devon following people - this guy is following Devon - NOT Devon following him - this moron can follow anyone lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Following is who he follows. Followers is who is following him.

This guy is a video programmer for Bleacher report - I think people trying to read WAY to much out of this - -I'm not going to jump off a cliff from a twitter post. - If it DOES turn out he goes to Maryland, wouldn't mean KU gonna shut down, silly commit - hell ya - Maryland offers NOTHING as far as putting players to the next level compared to KU, can offer nothing as far as exposure, tradition. - -Only thing they have is proximity to home and a friend playing there. - If again he doesn't want to compete for a spot - -just have it handed to him then soo be it - -cya - - But I don't see the fat lady anywhere in the neighborhood, little lone warming up her vocal cords, let's not panic. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54

The fat lady doesn't even know where he's going. Looks like she's gonna have to sleep around to find out

BeddieKU23 said:

I don't see where he's following this person having checked a few times..

Its the first person there when you follow the link posted by @BShark . There is a hashtag "goterps" in his bio. If you checking his profile from a mobile device it doesn't show up, on computer it does.

@RockkChalkk @BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 Yeah I don't know what the deal is with it not showing up on mobile. But definitely, Devon is following this guy. Seems like info starting to leak that Maryland is the choice but it all might just be speculation based on that. What a fun recruitment this has been to follow...

BShark said:

@RockkChalkk @BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 Yeah I don't know what the deal is with it not showing up on mobile. But definitely, Devon is following this guy. Seems like info starting to leak that Maryland is the choice but it all might just be speculation based on that. What a fun recruitment this has been to follow...

I'm sure you are already aware but just to clarify for everyone, its ok if he follows the guy, its the timing of the follow that is critical. He follows tons of KU players, writers, etc. too but if this is his most recent follow, like in the last 24 hours, it can certainly be viewed a bad sign.

Nothing is leaking. People are seeing things where there’s nothing, just to fill the information void.

@FarmerJayhawk Hope you are right.

@BeddieKU23 Lmao, you a nut lol - -that's funny. - -Just saw Ayala had ANOTHER CB to Maryland - -I'm thinking something different makes me think Maryland has found out Devon not coming there and that's why his CB'S are picking up it's leaking out - -I'm pretty sure if Dotson was committing to Maryland or Maryland was pretty sure they would pretty much tell Ayala let him know hey - -We have our PG I can't see Ayala committing there if Dotson is there probably end up at Illnois. - - I ain't seeing it right now, something not adding up - -When I watch the video - -THEN I'll be convinced my boy going to Maryland - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

@BeddieKU23 Lmao, you a nut lol - -that's funny. - -Just saw Ayala had ANOTHER CB to Maryland - -I'm thinking something different makes me think Maryland has found out Devon not coming there and that's why his CB'S are picking up it's leaking out - -I'm pretty sure if Dotson was committing to Maryland or Maryland was pretty sure they would pretty much tell Ayala let him know hey - -We have our PG I can't see Ayala committing there if Dotson is there probably end up at Illnois. - - I ain't seeing it right now, something not adding up - -When I watch the video - -THEN I'll be convinced my boy going to Maryland - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

It appears to be well known that Ayala is a Terp IF needed. If they get Dotson, expect Ayala to be an Oregon Duck, and a huge CB run to Oregon before hand. Until then, people will pick MD because that is Ayala's first choice. Not sure where you got Illinois from.

I thought Ayala was more of a low end Grimes. A 2 guard that wants to play point

@BShark He has always been in for Illnois. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

@BShark He has always been in for Illnois. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Incorrect.

August 10, 2017: Leaders Named

Eric Ayala names top 9: Arizona, Georgetown, Indiana, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Ohio State, Oregon and Syracuse

September 01, 2017: Leaders Named

Eric Ayala names final 5: Maryland, Miami, Ohio State, Oregon, and Syracuse

Tell me where you see Illinois here.

Have to roll and laugh with some other posters from other sites. - Can't believe how some are getting so worked up because he is following some video guy off twitter lmao. - Like one says OH SHIT he following this guy from Maryland, like he said pretty dam funny Hell he following another video guy from Rutgers too look out he must be going to Rutgers - -DARKHORSE lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Like Aaron said - - R - - -E - - - L - - -A- - -X you gonna be fine lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 It's not a different guy. The same guy went to MD and Rutgers. He is following another BR guy, but he has no affiliation and doesn't work on the edits.

jayballer54 said:

@BShark Like Aaron said - - R - - -E - - - L - - -A- - -X you gonna be fine lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I'm fine. I was just letting you know. Maybe you confused Eric Ayala and Ayo Dosunmu? Illinois is heavily involved with Dosunmu.

One thing that I'm seeing this year that haven't noticed as much in the last couple of years, and that is seems like ALOT more of these kids are committing early instead of what seemed like the last couple of years.

29-50 in the top 50 have committed this fall and still almost a month till early signing - -then 34-50 in the range from 50-100. - -for a total of 63-100 players in the Nation have already committed this fall just seems different this year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 Yep, definitely. In part it's because of lower tier schools heavily targeting and prioritizing kids early. It has forced the blue bloods to adapt as well. Used to be you could wait and hope to see more development, but not if other schools are pressing hard early on.

Eric Ayala will announce Saturday at 5pm. Guessing Dotson announces before that.

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@BShark Lotta KU love in the comments (including HEM sticking up for the ladies of KU). I don't know that it means anything, but Devon's ego should be properly stroked.

BShark said:

Eric Ayala will announce Saturday at 5pm. Guessing Dotson announces before that.

Eric Ayala picking up all kinds of CB'S for Maryland. - -I just got to believe he knows something - -his camp - -something has leaked I feel. Keeping fingers Crossed for my boy - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I like that Dotson had the 2 teams in person to tell them their decision. Follows with what they have done the whole recruitment which is be transparent with the schools they were considering. The one thing that would suck for KU is to fly in and be told we're not coming to KU..Fly thousands of miles for a big pile of the fat lady's dooo doo @jayballer54

So far no CB action, really seems like nobody knows. Look for Maryland's guys to put in for Maryland today because they have nothing to lose at this point. He's doing it at his school so unlikely its a video announcement which became all the rage yesterday with that twitter follow.

I wish I felt better about this. I really want him but I'm used to the disappointment that recruiting is. There is nothing for finishing 2nd for these kids.

We'll see

So is that An6el to be believed?

BeddieKU23 said:

So is that An6el to be believed?

I want to believe.

BeddieKU23 said:

So is that An6el to be believed?

What? - - lo - -what is an An6el? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

So is that An6el to be believed?

What? - - lo - -what is an An6el? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

It's the fat lady claiming KU to Dotson

Well holy crap. - -Looks like the Daily Kansan trying to screw up our recruiting royal - -saying the FBI has file/documents on KU and Adidas. Whether true or not couldn't of come at a worse time with Grimes and Dotson. - -The Kansas asking to see reports or something to that effect. FBI saying they couldn't release because of on going investigation.

I truly hope there is nothing to this and that the Coaches make sure these recruits are fully confident that nothing going to happen - like others have said this could screw our recruiting BIG TIME. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer54 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

So is that An6el to be believed?

What? - - lo - -what is an An6el? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

It's the fat lady claiming KU to Dotson

Well Damn , After reading posts off the Phog , the fat lady might be stepping up on the stage for KU. - -I swear to GOD if the Daily Kansan screws up things with our recruiting because of some lame bullshit story - -heads need to roll. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

The way I understand it, if any adidas school asked the FBI, maybe any school or paper, they would get the same answer.

How in the world did the UDK editors let that get published? It is a non story for right now. They got a general document back that basically said we don't have to give you anything right now. UDK students trying to get people using "Gotcha" journalism tactics by saying this stupid letter somehow contradicts what the school has been saying. So dumb. So so so dumb. This is damn near High School level journalism and we are supposed to be a top Journalism school in the country.

http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/178420361/ ↗

Crimsonorblue22 said:

http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/178420361/ ↗

Later in the letter, FBI Section Chief David M. Hardy states, “This is a standard notification that is given to all our requesters and should not be taken as an indication that excluded records do, or do not, exist.”

This is a big nothingburger. Its a shame though because the people spreading the "story" are doing damage regardless of the fact that there is no reason to fear implications towards KU in the "story." Fake news at its finest.

@RockkChalkk Stupid college kids trying to make a name for themselves. I hope that the adviser who oversees them at the very least told them the backlash that SHOULD come from publishing something that really has no merit.

This, if it was anything, was a small clue to a bigger story and shouldn't have ever been published on it's own. The had to decide whether they should publish this big nothingbuger now and get a few thousand reads or if they should follow this down into the rabbit hole and potentially get nothing. They took the easy way out. Just a poor, sad job done by the UDK.

The Kansan asked for “all documents and communications within this investigation related to the University of Kansas and any of its sponsorship deals with Adidas or any investigation of Kansas basketball coaches.”

What were they expecting?

Literally any school, especially Adidas schools right now could have their paper make the same request and get the same standard "no" that the UDK just got.

@BShark I'm honestly embarrassed that they published it. Like embarrassed for them. And now the Journalism school as a whole. Must have started a new class, Fake News 101. Where we teach you how to take an official document that really means nothing, and spin it into a major conspiracy.

@Kcmatt7 This is brutal for the kid. Like, what was he doing? I get reporting news but literally they asked for ALL DOCUMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS or bits on investigation of coaches within an ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. Again, what were they hoping for? Never going to get it. Even if some documents were available, this is the government we are talking about here. What's easier to do? Go dig up a document or use literally any excuse to give a 99% boilerplate response. Then to top it off they got rock hard that the FBI acknowledged them with a boilerplate response so they slanted the story to look like they had something.

Ayala never visited Oregon so he's a Terp!

So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he's going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday

BeddieKU23 said:

Ayala never visited Oregon so he's a Terp!

So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he's going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday

Yeah I saw this too. It's definitely not a bad thing.

@BShark Exactly what I was thinking. This is one of those investigations that will literally never close because it is so massive that they can say it is just always ongoing and not have to bother with doing anything besides sending a letter to anyone who inquires.

I want someone to do this for each individual school now and see what comes back. It is just an online form on the FBI website. I may try to when I get home from work.

https://efoia.fbi.gov/#home ↗

@Kcmatt7 let it go, don't be them?

@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time

So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn't care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, "Yall got a point guard". I was like, who? He says "Dotson". I'm not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.

@Crimsonorblue22 Well it would be really funny if you inquired about UK, and got the same letter right? I just want someone to discredit their story, but not by just saying nothing. By shoving it in their face. These kids/future "journalists" need to know that clickbait articles are lazy bullsh*t. And they should be punished and ridiculed for it.

@Kcmatt7 go to their website

Shoot. ESPN is running the same crap that the UDK stirred up as a headline. Poor timing. I hope this crap as it pertains to KU gets cleared up fast (the way I want it to go).

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time

So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn't care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, "Yall got a point guard". I was like, who? He says "Dotson". I'm not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.

Saw it, should hear about 30 more

If Dotson has made up his mind, only he and the family know. They’re not talking to anyone until tomorrow night. I’m sticking with KU because I haven’t seen or heard anything that suggests Maryland passed KU.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time

So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn't care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, "Yall got a point guard". I was like, who? He says "Dotson". I'm not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.

Saw it, should hear about 30 more

Same guy followed up on it, doubled down.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time

So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn't care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, "Yall got a point guard". I was like, who? He says "Dotson". I'm not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.

Saw it, should hear about 30 more

Same guy followed up on it, doubled down.

I'm waiting for his triple double

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Ayala never visited Oregon so he's a Terp!

So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he's going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday

Yeah I saw this too. It's definitely not a bad thing.

This whole thing written from our wonderful little paper and the FBI whole investigation going on - -whether we are actually involved in anything or not couldn't have come a possible worse time. - -You know how people take these things and just run wild like a stripped ass ape with them if they think they can drag us/ or any school other then their own.

I worry that my boys folks are going to have some big questions - -2nd/3rd/4th thoughts - -this might just kill any recruiting we have going whether truth or not. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 The crappy thing is if the evidence exonerates KU they still can't release it. Sucks hearing it every 15 minutes on ESPN radio though. Slanderous without more info.Implicated and investigated are two different things.

@Crimsonorblue22 what do you mean? I've been on the website. And that story is the front page top line.

@Kcmatt7 make a comment on their twitter page

@dylans "Slanderous without more info." Exactly. It is the news media, it is ESPN. And the issue is not reporting it. The issue as with nearly all other one sided media accounts, including ESPN's not stop slobbering over the national anthem stuff, is reporting and providing only one side of the story, or giving a cursory, limited, or unintelligible reference to the other side. And not providing a reasonable explanation (in this case) of what their sensationalistic reporting means.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/oct/12/report-creates-question-whether-fbi-has-ku-athleti/ ↗

The lazy and biased media now appears to be in a state of publishing anything to get clicks regardless of whether the story has any foundation. It is the proverbial ...it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission...or in this case...it is easier to publish a story with no facts to back it up and then issue a retraction on the back pages at a later date than to get the story right in the first place. It seems to be the current status of most main stream media and now extended to minor publications. The old style journalism is now a thing of the past.

their BS makes me worry about my boy's decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

their BS makes me worry about my boy's decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Grimes is a super smart kid. Just fyi.

@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!

So now my guy says "Ayala". I'm like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, "I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala".

Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would've brought it up, but don't know if I trust what he's hearing is fact or kids talking. I'm sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.

BShark said:

jayballer54 said:

their BS makes me worry about my boy's decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Grimes is a super smart kid. Just fyi.

Boy you got that right. - -It took me one interview , listening to him talk and I could just tell - - -this kid sounds like a bright bright kid, also seems like a very polite respectful type of kid not that means squat but still - - just saying you can just see he is a very smart kid. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!

So now my guy says "Ayala". I'm like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, "I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala".

Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would've brought it up, but don't know if I trust what he's hearing is fact or kids talking. I'm sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.

Thanks. The person knows absolutely nothing

@jayballer54 My main point is that he and his mom are smart enough to see that the article means nothing. Don't think it impacts him.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!

So now my guy says "Ayala". I'm like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, "I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala".

Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would've brought it up, but don't know if I trust what he's hearing is fact or kids talking. I'm sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.

Thanks. The person knows absolutely nothing

Yeah...had me worried for a second but LOL.

Supposedly fwiw the coaches do not know yet. They should be called tomorrow apparently. This is according to Ermann.

Well it's close to - - - -T - minus 24 hours to decision day. - - This is my boy - -we all know I've been on the Dotson train from practically day 1 - -I'm gonna keep riding the Dotson train till we get to the depot. - -Well maybe with just a lil bit of teensy weensie bit of hesitancy - -just in case got my bag in my hand - Na I'm gonna ride it out till the end " BRING IT HOME " - -Devon - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well I'm starting to waver, seems like a lot of things pointing to Maryland true or not. - - People saying Devon starting to follow Anthony Cowan the present Maryland PG now - -plus the video dude - - plus his dad liking of Devon following the Maryland point guard.

On top of his parents or mom wanting him to stay close to home - -plus the crap with the FBI - -Plus Turgeon saying they will take both Ayala & Dotson - -As much as I want to believe - -I'm just close to the edge of the cliff. this is going to suck - BUT if it does then time goes on - -KU goes on - -BUT it also enhances what people say why can't we close on elite Guards - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Someone just made a CB pick for Dotson. And it was to... KANSAS! I dunno if its based on anything but can only be a good sign.

RockkChalkk said:

Someone just made a CB pick for Dotson. And it was to... KANSAS! I dunno if its based on anything but can only be a good signYa I just saw that too. - That is the 1st CB movement I've seen on anything since Devon having both Coaches - -might be something starting to trend - -maybe not I think he called it at like 7;26 I believe so pretty new pick. - - we shall see hoping. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

The guy that just made the CB for KU is Eric Hamford future 150. - -The only one that I can see that has put in a CB for Maryland on this is Dain Erin - -dude has a 50 % ration at predicting. - -Who knows? - -It's all a huge guessing game. -- just got to keep my fingers crossed. guess we will know in about 24 hours. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

this recruitment will be a fun one to remember if its KU. At least its over today.

KU would move from #20 to # 3 in team recruiting rankings.

BeddieKU23 said:

this recruitment will be a fun one to remember if its KU. At least its over today.

KU would move from #20 to # 3 in team recruiting rankings.

Ya there have been a lot of up's and downs in this recruitment. - A lot of speculation , more then usual it seems. - From oh we got this , he is coming, he is ours to I dunno , I think it's Maryland OR not to sure , to people saying things from twitter. - It is finished at 6 tonight.

I've even found myself wavering on my boy. On one hand I have been seeing - -hearing all these things about Maryland - to on the other a lot of the same about KU , how Devon actually wants to come to KU - -MOM wants him to stay closer to home , we all know how a lot of those work out. - -Either way whatever happens KU was fine BEFORE the Devon scenario & KU will be fine AFTER the Devon scenario - -still sticking with my gut in the end run - Still telling me - -we got this - Devon will land here at KU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well now we are screwed. - -A friend just reminded me - -It's Friday - -the 13th on Devon decision day -- GREAT. lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONNG BABY

@jayballer54

I suggest you have a few totties in the next 11 hours. Enjoy the day! I think its going to end up just fine

Now that his decision day is here. I think a lot of us have seen just how desperate Maryland wants to be considered a big-time program and respected nationally. They are desperate for Dotson, its why a good amount of their fans have gone crazy over this kid. The rumors, inside info etc is really crazy with this one. I'm sure very little of it has been true every step of the way. With their football program in a similar situation as KU's Basketball is life there.

If the transparency that the Dotson's have given everyone matters his relationship with KU and the one he didn't have with Maryland until this spring/summer should prevail.

We offered early, we got him on campus on his dime as a Junior during his basketball season.

We showed up front and center at all of his games this summer. We went to HS games, we flew in to check on him constantly. We spent more time at his AAU events (UA & Adidas) then the normal slug-fest at Peach Jam. KU made a concentrated effort to show him they really need him, not just want him.

If its about staying close to home and playing with his friend then that's his decision he has to live with. I can understand the comfort level for kids making this big decision and knowing he's got someone who has his back that he has a personal relationship with. When I went to College I wanted to end up with my closest friends. I absolutely understand having that familiarity with someone.

If he's an NBA player no matter where he lands isn't going to stop him, its up to him. Cowan at Maryland and Moore at KU are not going to stand in his way.

KU certainly has some advantages for Dotson over Maryland but as fans those things might not matter to him as much. I do think this recruitment would have been over had he felt what Kansas had to offer him was a slam dunk over everyone else.

In the end this is a battle that is up to Bill Self, not anyone else.

Did he give Devon and his parents the comfort level they were seeking? Did he get the relationship to a point where it was more then basketball? You would think all the time they have put into this one that they did. Was his message on how they would use Devon and his statement that he'd start at KU from Day-1 hit home?

A Hall of Fame coach said you'd start here how can you turn your back on that? I guess we will find out

@BeddieKU23 Well said. If KU misses, can't blame the staff on this one, they put in the work.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Well said. If KU misses, can't blame the staff on this one, they put in the work.

I still think this is a Bill Self vs Mark Turgeon battle. Devon ultimately has to play for either coach so which coach sold him on their vision for him (and the team) the best.

Until recently I projected Dotson to be a 3-4 year player. After his summer that time-frame likely became 2-3 years. I don't think he'll need all 4. I think he'll stay at least two to maximize his potential draft stock so who's coaching him is very important here, I think more important then depth chart and who he's playing with.

Self is usually really damn good at selling his pitch but the PG position is definitely been his thorn. Turgeon has landed 4 Top 100 Composite PG's in the last 5 recruiting cycles.. Self, 1 if we include Conner cry baby (Frank & Devonte were both outside top 100 on Composite although some sites had them ranked higher). He also landed two via transfer.

This is on our HOF Coach to win this battle

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

I suggest you have a few totties in the next 11 hours. Enjoy the day! I think its going to end up just fine

lol, ya that is exactly what I need lol. - -maybe something a little stiffer lol - -maybe a few shot glasses of some brandy lol. - - then when decision time comes -- ha , I won't care lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Was Quitter listed as a PG on any of the services? I know 247 had him as a 2 guard.

ESPN not ranking post grads killed Frank and Devonte's ranks. Frank in particular. 247 had him at #52. I remember the reaction to Graham was extremely positive, unless you include dumbasses that don't know basketball and obvious trolls. NC State fans were pissed they didn't get him. All people around NC and hoops in general were saying KU got a really good player.

All that said, it would be super nice to land a PG or two that are consensus top 30.

@BeddieKU23 well come on over. It IS the 13th and Friday - -we can share some hot totties and sweat this out together lol. - - My boy better not let me down make me look bad lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Was Quitter listed as a PG on any of the services? I know 247 had him as a 2 guard.

ESPN not ranking post grads killed Frank and Devonte's ranks. Frank in particular. 247 had him at #52. I remember the reaction to Graham was extremely positive, unless you include dumbasses that don't know basketball and obvious trolls. NC State fans were pissed they didn't get him. All people around NC and hoops in general were saying KU got a really good player.

All that said, it would be super nice to land a PG or two that are consensus top 30.

I think quittercamp was always listed as a SG and I included Morsell for Maryland who's got 2 ways skills as well. Figured I'd just lump them in for comparison.

Yeah I wasn't sold on the Mason signing to be honest at first. After I was able to find information on him I thought he'd at least be a rotation player at some point. Boy that was an understatement of the century.

I knew about Graham. I actually went to a Brewster game when KU was interested in him and I was stunned that he almost went to Appalachian St in the first place. My friend that is a Brewster alum and knows the coach Jason Smith pretty well would give me info on Devonte. I knew we were getting a good one before the national media knew of him

This just in lol. - -From the FWIW dept. - - Just checked 247 and since the visit from KU & Maryland yesterday , there has been 2 CB picks one just posted this morning at 8:04 from Brian Flinn both CB'S have chose KU for Devon's landing - a little CB movement sent the Coaches visit and both have KU. - -Who knows but wouldn't think this is bad right? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54

Hopefully they are still there at 5:59.. and green by 6:30ish..

So Maryland is firing their AD. Threads about it on the MD board are getting deleted but it's true. LOL.

Zagoria predicts Dotson to KU

BShark said:

So Maryland is firing their AD. Threads about it on the MD board are getting deleted but it's true. LOL.

fallout from UNC report today lol

Evan Daniels with his CB to Kansas as well

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer54

Hopefully they are still there at 5:59.. and green by 6:30ish..

I'm not promising nothing lmao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Can we change the name of this thread back to something more positive?

RockkChalkk said:

Can we change the name of this thread back to something more positive?

I have plans.

Off the Devon subject for a minute BUT - - SURPRISE SURPRISE - the infractions committee could NOT CONCLUDE any academic violations with North Carolina - -OMFG these are some just dumm as shits. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABT

jayballer54 said:

Off the Devon subject for a minute BUT - - SURPRISE SURPRISE - the infractions committee could NOT CONCLUDE any academic violations with North Carolina - -OMFG these are some just dumm as shits. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABT

Took the NCAA years to reach the conclusion everyone knew they would reach within seconds of hearing about it.

I wonder how Pack Pride is taking this news....

Did Cleveland St have the school closed yet?

BeddieKU23 said:

Did Cleveland St have the school closed yet?

Heard that UMES is getting the death penalty this time. One time they had one athlete skip a class.

So like person said - -soo that means if they pay 200k to a player BUT yer pay a regular student 200 k also - -it's ALL CAROLINA BLUE OKIE DOKIE. - - Can we all see just how far Carolina has the NCAA buried up their Carolina sky blue ass? - -That's just plain Bullshit NCAA my butt time to break away dissolve these worthless piles of dog doo - -Forget the shot glasses of Brandy - - I'm all in for drinking straight from the bottle lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jeff Ermann right on cue.

BShark said:

Jeff Ermann right on cue.

You knew it wouldn't be any other way.

Guy is an expert at driving his fans/subscribers. Something we probably wish KU's did more of. I give him that and that only.

Academic fraud is now legalized.

@KUSTEVE Yea why would you not create a basketball degree now at this point? A's for anyone who takes the class.

@Kcmatt7 Principles of Dribbling 101.

@KUSTEVE Sports Psychology 200: "Self" Motivation

Jeff's minion with his Maryland pick as well.

BeddieKU23 said:

Guy is an expert at driving his fans/subscribers. Something we probably wish KU's did more of. I give him that and that only.

Not saying anything about this recruitment but even MD fans, even if somewhat tongue-in-cheek call him Jimmy Clickbait.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Guy is an expert at driving his fans/subscribers. Something we probably wish KU's did more of. I give him that and that only.

Not saying anything about this recruitment but even MD fans, even if somewhat tongue-in-cheek call him Jimmy Clickbait.

He did exactly as predicted. He's had a new Dotson article for the past month, regurgitating the same information. They have nothing to lose with their pick, they know they got into the game late here and have house money. If they are right they didn't know crap other then being homers to their teams. If they are wrong they will say they didn't know because they weren't told

but now he's got his followers trying to dissect why. funny

I wonder if Maryland fans are pointing at this thread and saying KU fans gave up on Devon...

I don't think this board is super visible especially compared to 247 boards.

@BShark

It shows up during Google searches....

FWIW, five CB changes since yesterday, 3 for KU and 2 for Maryland. Overall it is still 80% KU but it really means very little since most prediction are fairly dated but then, maybe raters did not feel they needed to change their predictions...who knows.

4-2 KU

RockkChalkk said:

4-2 KU

boooyaaa

Would be fun if there was a KU Buckets Crystal Ball thing

It will be goning back and forth

@JayHawkFanToo Maryland has fans?

I predict there will be people at his announcment

RockkChalkk said:

Would be fun if there was a KU Buckets Crystal Ball thing

@approxinfinity

New recruiting tool??

Maryland board has officially hit the low when they are quoting the movie beerfest in regards to Matt Scott

Since when do we care a whittle about Maryland...their fans..or their message boards???? I'm not understanding the obsession. Win or lose, we'll be fine with or without Dotson.

KUSTEVE said:

Since when do we care a whittle about Maryland...their fans..or their message boards???? I'm not understanding the obsession. Win or lose, we'll be fine with or without Dotson.

So your okay with Charlie Moore starting?

@BeddieKU23 I don't have any say in the matter.

BShark said:

Jeff Ermann right on cue.

go figure - -seeing as how he is a Maryland insider ROCK CHAL ALL DAY LONG BABY

KUSTEVE said:

Academic fraud is now legalized.

OH but only at North Carolina OKIE DOKIE BLUE - - - - -ANYWHERE ELSE - - -your GETING HAMMERED. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

I don't think this board is super visible especially compared to 247 boards.

It's not - -not at all I have a hell of a time pulling anything from them. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

RockkChalkk said:

4-2 KU

boooyaaa

That's Boooooya - -with a CAPITAL - - " B ". - - OH just as a side not - -these shots starting to get MIGHTY TASTY lol - - & I still have 4 hours and 11 minutes to go lol -All I can say is my boy better not make me look bad - -I've been riding him from day ONE - - Devon don't make me look bad in front of my group. - -you better not lol. - Still got my got feeling on this - -OR could be that last bowl of Chili. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

KUSTEVE said:

@JayHawkFanToo Maryland has fans?

YA - -- -a couple of them. - - -Jeff Erman - -& Josh Stern - - -and and and -OH YA Mark Turgeon too lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

KUSTEVE said:

Since when do we care a whittle about Maryland...their fans..or their message boards???? I'm not understanding the obsession. Win or lose, we'll be fine with or without Dotson.

So your okay with Charlie Moore starting?

GOD I hope not lmao. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Maximum jayballer.

@BShark Hmmm, now I am wondering. - -Is his announcement 6:00 P.m. his time OR 6:00 CST. - -I don't mean to pee on anybody's parade - - BUT my gut twisting I'm starting to get this sick feeling he may chose Maryland - - Boy you better not let me down. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 5pm Kansas time

OUR BOY DAIN ERVIN JUST FLIPPED HIS CB TO KANSAS.

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 @RockkChalkk We getting close fam.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 @RockkChalkk We getting close fam.

~~I don't see the pick switched on the site yet, not showing up for me.~~ Nevermind, its there now.

RockkChalkk said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 @RockkChalkk We getting close fam.

I don't see the pick switched on the site yet, not showing up for me.

His profile is derp right now. You gotta bring up the full CB page.

Here ya go: https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Devon-Dotson-at-Providence-Day-School-155792/CurrentExpertPredictions ↗

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer54 @RockkChalkk We getting close fam.

It's really really crazy some of the posters lol. - -I mean you have some going off the deep end cause the Kid is wearing RED shorts for a practice - -NOT CRIMSON - -BUT RED -were doomed mercy I swear some must be off their meds.

So let me ask these predictions THAT HAVE came in today - -do you think something maybe might have leaked even just in the slightest way - Or do you just think all of them are grasping? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I Would say it would be HUGE to have a Slater pick right about now. - -but then again the last I knew his CB was KU and have seen no change - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Houston - - -WE HAVE A PROBLEM LOL. - -just messin guys - -no problem so far just had to throw that in because of the title to the thread lmao - -ROCK CHALK FAMILY

I never feel confident in these types of recruitment's. Even with the cb run.

jayballer54 said:

I Would say it would be HUGE to have a Slater pick right about now. - -but then again the last I knew his CB was KU and have seen no change - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Noooo. We don't want a Slater CB pick. That would mean he is changing off KU.

Don't sleep on Rutgers, guys.

When this is over, whoever the DD account is needs to come out and say it.

Slater put his CB like last year for Dotson. Hasn't wavered I don't think either

2 hours to go and I'm confident he's gonna be a Jayhawk. So @jayballer54 you better get your RCJH Baby ready

Somebody had a great point about UNC getting a free pass because the fake classes were available to non athletes as well: does that mean Louisville wouldn't have been in trouble if they had offered prostitutes to regular students as well?

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 I don't have any say in the matter.

True, you and I and everyone else for that matter has no say.

If I was to ask you, and you were the coach would you be okay with just Charlie Moore at PG. Even further, are you okay with him starting if we indeed did miss on important recruits.

Have you seen him play? Any games? Or just trusting Self here?

I have watched 4 of his games. 2 in the beginning of the year, one vs UCLA and one in the Pac-12 tourney. I feel Self is after Dotson and Grimes with a good bit of "need" not "want" because I think Moore will be better (and ready for a bigger role) when he's a Junior and Senior.

@BeddieKU23 Maryland fans still think it's them due to Jeff's silence. I think either way he went dark to not deal with the maelstrom that is that thread.

Also this tweet

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BShark said:

Also this tweet

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wow

The Dotson family has done a great job keeping everyone guessing. The crystalball picks are just a shot in the dark, a 50 50 chance.

3genhawk said:

The Dotson family has done a great job keeping everyone guessing. The crystalball picks are just a shot in the dark, a 50 50 chance.

The recent one's I agree.

I do think some of the talk this summer that he was KU's to lose was legitimate information especially as it leaked out in Vegas in the last tournament Dotson and Zion played in together. From there I don't think there has been anything floating around enough to sway people in another direction from that.

We all hope the so called experts landed on the right side here..

@BeddieKU23 I've never wanted Matt Scott to be right more in my life. He made a weird comment in the what you need to know post saying he expected a couple cb picks for Maryland to make it interesting.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 I've never wanted Matt Scott to be right more in my life. He made a weird comment in the what you need to know post saying he expected a couple cb picks for Maryland to make it interesting.

which happened. with less then an hr to go who knows if anything else will pop up. I think everyone is just waiting for the time of the announcement at this point.

@BeddieKU23 the recent picks are what I meant. I think the crystalballs accuracy is 70+%. I just don't get excited over every random pick.

30 minutes boys and girls. Strap up I feel we finally get one of these shiny point guards they talk about

3genhawk said:

@BeddieKU23 the recent picks are what I meant. I think the crystalballs accuracy is 70+%. I just don't get excited over every random pick.

Funny--for me the opposite is literally true: I seem to get excited abput picks randomly. Sometimes I am all involved, other times I am singing "Que Sera" with Doris Day, or not following anything. No rhyme or reason to it!

BeddieKU23 said:

2 hours to go and I'm confident he's gonna be a Jayhawk. So @jayballer54 you better get your RCJH Baby ready

GOTCHA COVERED. I NOTICED THAT Matt Scott has something Devon's Instagram and then the Q & A afterwards I think off the shiver. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

feed is up on youtube. good quality

KUSTEVE said:

Somebody had a great point about UNC getting a free pass because the fake classes were available to non athletes as well: does that mean Louisville wouldn't have been in trouble if they had offered prostitutes to regular students as well?

Roflmao - - You need to stop that. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Is he a shiny PG? Or more like the perfect college PG? I'm just genuinely curious. Bill obviously needs to make Dotson a success in order to keep getting high end PGs. But he isn't Derrick Rose, Kyrie Irving, DeArron Fox, Trevon Duvall or any of those super freaks is he?

If Bill gets Dotson to the NBA in his 2nd year, do we start getting attention from top 10 PGs finally?

I've said it over and over, I wonder what Bill Self does with a top 5 PG. I think him and a freak PG would win a NC providing we have our other usual Blue Blood talent around one. But that is just this one man's opinion.

BeddieKU23 said:

30 minutes boys and girls. Strap up I feel we finally get one of these shiny point guards they talk about

I've Got my Bourbon in one hand & my ROCK CHALK ready to go. - -There isn't anything to see/ other then twitter right? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY 18 MINUTES

@jayballer54 @KUSTEVE Hey, what does a guy have to do to get credit around here?

@BeddieKU23 I've never seen you get so fired up before.

@mayjay I was stealing from a poster from another site- did I steal from you, too?

@Devon-Dotson If you choose us, several of our posters will be deliriously happy.

@BeddieKU23 How do I get to this on U tube.? -- Or can I just sit right right from what you posted and watch it? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE

mayjay about 2 hours ago
@wissox I bet Louisville is wishing they had hired more prostitutes so the entire student body could be entertained!

Sniff, whine, sob....

Once Jayhawk always a Jayhawk. Let's remember that Mark Turgeon played for KU so he will always be a Jayhawk and as such, he deserves respect and our best wishes. If KU is not going to get a top prospect, I prefer he goes to a school coached by a former Jayhawk.

Is this announcement televised somewhere?

@mayjay That link someone posted for sure it looks like

@BShark @Kcmatt7 Oh, I didn't know that was a feed. Thx!

@BeddieKU23 I haven't watched the whole games with Charlie, but your "Dotson or the hellhole that is Charlie" are fascinating, imo. How did we get Frank..or Devonte? I don't think either one of them were our first choice. I have faith that if we miss out on Dotson, we will manage to find another solution that doesn't necessarily involve Charlie starting. We have an entire season to recruit more talent. Have faith.

@KUSTEVE

Sorry I just have this strong opinion of Dotson. Not only will he help us win but this is a big win for Self as far as recruiting the position in the future. We have been extremely blessed to get Mason and Graham and develop them into what they are. You only strike gold so much with those and its time KU was known for getting good players at all 5 positions instead of being known for wings and bigs.

We'll see how it goes!

@BShark Can we watch this here? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 Yea I'm watching it right now. Although it is a bit creepy. I feel like i'm just spying on people.

A lot of stuff pointing to Maryland right now. Nervous.

@mayjay I missed that. You have a coupon to steal one of mine.

@BeddieKU23

Moore will be a junior when he is eligible to play for KU, right?

@JayHawkFanToo RS Sophomore I believe

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

Moore will be a junior when he is eligible to play for KU, right?

RS SO

@KUSTEVE

Good points. Realistically I don't think a freshman PG or Charlie is the answer that best fits what Self wants. Unless Marcus has some PG skill that he gets to show this season we don't have what I would call the type of player KU needs for next year. I'm in no way dogging Charlie, I'm just holding my opinion that he's going to be better after the year off, and a year in the rotation. Not all transfers are immediately ready to lead a program such as Kansas

@BeddieKU23 I watched his mix tapes, and he certainly has talent, so I understand. i have learned not to get too high about possible recruits because we've been left at the altar enough that I always am looking over my shoulder. If the kid can't figure out the difference between Maryland and KU, do we really want him?

@KUSTEVE

the draw for Maryland has a lot to do with his friend committed to the terps

@BShark Damn , I don't need to be hearing that right now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo No, he'll be a sophomore with 2 years of experience. I don't understand why everyone is so down on him.

@BeddieKU23

IMHO, a very good upper class man will generally be better/more productive than a OAD...with a few exceptions, of course.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

IMHO, a very good upper class man will generally be better/more productive than a OAD...with a few exceptions, of course.

I don't think Dotson is a OAD at this point. I expect at least 2 yrs, maybe 3. He's not a finished prospect yet especially without the elite measureables

Well...?

@BeddieKU23 That always cracks me up. It is like all my HS friends who went to the same college and lived with each other.

To me, College is the one time in your life you should branch out, get uncomfortable and find yourself. If after 4 years you end up back in the same dinky town at the same local bar hanging out with the same people you did the 4 years before, nothing is wrong with that. But you at least found out that was where you belonged.

I would think the best thing for these players would be to get as far away from anyone with any influence on them, get a little uncomfortable and learn how to battle some adversity. I would think that goes a long ways in building the character for the next level.

@BeddieKU23

You can replace OAD with first year player/rookie/newbie...

how did we end up with a negative thread name again?? when i left work all the vibes were good. what happened???

JAYHAWK BOOK IT

https://maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/Contents/Sounds-like-its-going-to-be--108855702 ↗

@Kcmatt7

No I don't view Dotson as the John Wall Derrick Rose type that has gone to Kentucky. He's more like Juwan Evans IMO who stayed 2 years and was ranked similarly

FOR THOSE WITHOUT VIUP ERMANN JUST CONCEDED THAT IT IS KANSAS

@BShark Way to ruin the video. Jerk.

BOOOOOYAHHHH

I love the MAryland board.

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The worst part is TML still gets to post.

I'm still finishing the video. until I see him wearing a hat or get a bleacher report update I won't believe a word you guys say.

@Kcmatt7 I didn't take it that way at all.

@KUSTEVE take what, what way?

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Would Dotson even have been a starter here?

MARYLAND BOARD ARE GODS

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Way to ruin the video. Jerk.

This was a joke btw.

The sound quality is brutal

Kcmatt7 said:

The sound quality is brutal

Yeah. I'm listening with Sennheiser HD 800S headphones and they are weeping at this.

Kcmatt7 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Way to ruin the video. Jerk.

This was a joke btw.

I know bruh, we good.

BILL SELF IS GETTING A XMAS CARD!!!!!

BooYaa! Welcome to KU Devon!!!!!!

ROCK CHALK

How many people are going to complain that he said Kansas University? lol

THIS IS A VERY GOOD DAY!!!!

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!

Ole Jeffy still going to die on the hill with his CB pick tho.

Hell yes though!

@Kcmatt7 You freaked me out. I thot you were going mental...lol.

Awesome!

DOTSON IS A JAYHAWK!!!!!

Kcmatt7 said:

How many people are going to complain that he said Kansas University? lol

Only idjits.

This is HUGE for Kansas, absolutely HUGE.

NEW THREAD NAME

HELLLL YA - - -ROCK CHALK BABY - - THAT'S MY BOY - -FROM DAY ONE - - -WHEW - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 you ok? Got your boy!

BShark said:

NEW THREAD NAME

love it, we knew all along

Andrew Slater really does know his stuff

@Crimsonorblue22 HELL YA - - -THAT'S MY BOY RIGHT THERE HELLLLL YA ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - - ALL DAY LONG

So this makes me feel two new things.
1. FBI thing less scary.
2. Chances at Zion just went up

Imagine the pitch we have to sell Zion now

Man, I am so glad he chose KU. The gnashing of the teeth if he had selected Mary...I shudder to think of it...

@BeddieKU23 HUGE - - -HUGE HUGE. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

Imagine the pitch we have to sell Zion now

Pming you shortly.

@jayballer54 Have a shot for me, man. Congrats. I know you were fretting...

obviously we want Grimes too but going to battle with Dotson and Moore is a nice combo to have in the fold.

Dotson will push and make Moore better I have no doubts about this

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer54 Have a shot for me, man. Congrats. I know you were fretting...

Thanks buddy. -- that right there Is my boy - -ridding his train from day one. -- makes me feel really good. - -I said McCormack was coming - -and he did - -I rode Devon from the get go - -and it paid off - - -WHEW. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Guyyyys visit the Maryland board now.

https://maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/Contents/Things-More-Reliable-Than-a-Jeff-CB-108856278 ↗

BeddieKU23 said:

obviously we want Grimes too but going to battle with Dotson and Moore is a nice combo to have in the fold.

I feel good about Quinten too, BUT don't think he will commit in the fall - -gonna be a spring think I think. - -I think our fall commits are done. - -

I think we now wait on three other possibilities - - Grimes -- Langford - - & Williamson - -get two of those - -Grime and then either or Williamson/Langford - -Huge recruiting clas - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

Guyyyys visit the Maryland board now.

https://maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/Contents/Things-More-Reliable-Than-a-Jeff-CB-108856278 ↗

Do we dare lmao? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Could someone please recap the decision timelines for Grimes and Zion, if there are any at this juncture? I'm too exhausted and giddy now to scroll through all the threads. Thanks.

hawkmoon2020 said:

Could someone please recap the decision timelines for Grimes and Zion, if there are any at this juncture? I'm too exhausted and giddy now to scroll through all the threads. Thanks.

Jmo but Spring (Grimes) and before the new year but after the early signing period (Zion).

jayballer54 said:

BShark said:

Guyyyys visit the Maryland board now.

https://maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/Contents/Things-More-Reliable-Than-a-Jeff-CB-108856278 ↗

Do we dare lmao? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Yes. That thread is incredible.

hawkmoon2020 said:

Could someone please recap the decision timelines for Grimes and Zion, if there are any at this juncture? I'm too exhausted and giddy now to scroll through all the threads. Thanks.

I think we are looking at the spring for our other three possibilities. - -Grimes - Williamson - - Langford. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer54 said:

hawkmoon2020 said:

Could someone please recap the decision timelines for Grimes and Zion, if there are any at this juncture? I'm too exhausted and giddy now to scroll through all the threads. Thanks.

I think we are looking at the spring for our other three possibilities. - -Grimes - Williamson - - Langford. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I believe Zion will pop before spring. It actually comes from someone I now trust pretty well....

Thanks guys! I could use a nice recruiting reprieve now so I can focus more on the 17-18 team and upcoming season. Rock Chalk fellow Hawks!

BShark said:

jayballer54 said:

hawkmoon2020 said:

Could someone please recap the decision timelines for Grimes and Zion, if there are any at this juncture? I'm too exhausted and giddy now to scroll through all the threads. Thanks.

I think we are looking at the spring for our other three possibilities. - -Grimes - Williamson - - Langford. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I believe Zion will pop before spring. It actually comes from someone I now trust pretty well....
Well that wouldn't be a bad thing for sure. - -OH I saw today when I was trolling over on that OTHER BOARD. - - Kentucky - -people upset cause Quickley not coming to BIG BLUE MADNESS , they wanted him there to help recruit Zion - -kind of giving him the number - -saying Quickley said schedule conflict - - they saying you know when BIG BLUE MADNESS going to be a month of head of time - -how can you have a schedule conflict lmao - -wettin themselves. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

This makes me happy.

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Remember when Bill Self couldn't get commits in the early signing period? I don't.

Self and co. go 2 for 2 on the big boxing fight night weekend. When is the next big fight? Lets start getting the recruits lined up to visit on that day! ha

I just want Grimes now.

Maryland board is incredible right now. They already have a multi-page Ayala is better than Dotson anyway thread.

To be fair the OP is getting crushed.

BShark said:

Remember when Bill Self couldn't get commits in the early signing period? I don't. LMAO - - - -getting what? - -I can' remember squat lo - -maybe to much Bourbon today. - I like how he says he is going after Quentin - -Langford - -& Williamson hell ya that's my boy - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

Maryland board is incredible right now. They already have a multi-page Ayala is better than Dotson anyway thread.
Hmmmmm go figure that didn't see that coming lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I just want Grimes now.

Were working on it. - -Grimes is here this weekend, time to wrap it up a notch seal the deal. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

The best part about this Maryland meltdown is that they are killing it in recruiting. They did a great job even landing in the final 2 with Dotson. This is also one of their best classes in years. Maybe ever on paper. They have a local top 20 PF that loves them committed. They have a top 50 wing already in Dotson's best friend Wiggins. Then they will also land Eric Ayala who is top 75 guard tomorrow. They are also in deep with Moses Brown and Keldon Johnson. This is REALLY good for Maryland and I think after they melt down they will realize it.

Ohhhhh Jeffffffy

"Ayala isn't as dynamic as Dotson, but he's a big, tough and competitive player who can defend both guard spots. And perhaps most important, he's an ego-free player who's all about Maryland. There will be no playing time or chemistry concerns with Ayala, which might not have been the case with Dotson. That's not to rationalize that he's got as high an upside -- one of a five-star for a reason, but there's something to be said for fit. Ayala is the nation's No. 76 player and held offers from Syracuse, Oregon, Miami and others."

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer54

Full article here for those with VIP that would want to read it: https://maryland.247sports.com/Article/Maryland-Basketball-Recruiting--108871804 ↗

@BShark

I'm glad I don't have to go back to that board its really bad how people attack Dotson and his family for not picking them. I know it happens everywhere but its sad to see. We never went to those lengths here about Trae Young or Ayton.. Jeez

@BShark

In regards to Jeff talking about playing time I mean what 5 start PG wants to play behind an established PG already in the program who isn't a threat for the NBA right now. It's kind of what happened to KU in the last 2 cycles. Maryland didn't fit his plan and he went somewhere else. The saltiness is expected but there Mod is a complete troll

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

I'm glad I don't have to go back to that board its really bad how people attack Dotson and his family for not picking them. I know it happens everywhere but its sad to see. We never went to those lengths here about Trae Young or Ayton.. Jeez

I'm sure twitter was a shit show with Ayton but this board and the shiver both handled that pretty well.

I think people were more upset about Young, mainly because Matt Scott lied to everyone, basically at the request of the Youngs...

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

In regards to Jeff talking about playing time I mean what 5 start PG wants to play behind an established PG already in the program who isn't a threat for the NBA right now. It's kind of what happened to KU in the last 2 cycles. Maryland didn't fit his plan and he went somewhere else. The saltiness is expected but there Mod is a complete troll

Yep. Sometimes it's really simple. Dotson wanted PT and a blueblood. KU offered both. Last year the staff targeted Sexton and Young hard but with Newman lying in wait and Graham a possibility to come back it was always a tough sell.

Also in hindsight it sure looks like Florida made the soul read on Dotson with the way they quickly went for other PGs after his visit. If the Maryland staff couldn't do the same that's on them. Hindsight being what it is and all, the signs were there with the MD visit. Didn't play pick-up ball with the team and other recruits. Sure seemed like a #freevisit with his boy Wiggins.

@BShark

Agree I think he visited out of respect for the coaches recruiting him and seeing what his friend signed himself up for. Maryland might have won out had they put the same efforts early like KU did. Kudos to the staff for identifying him early and following through.

@BeddieKU23 Agree. Getting Dotson in for a game last year on his own dime was pretty big. I think Devon sees himself playing here much in the style Frank did.

So it seems that Jacobs and Adam Miller are becoming pretty tight. This really can not be a bad thing.

So I'm wondering how the Grimes visit is /or went. - -Guess we might hear within the week something on how it went. - -Heard him talking about a decision time - looks like maybe December but yet maybe in spring not rushing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 No puff pieces that I've seen yet. Probably be up later today or tomorrow.

@jayballer54 There is a puff piece up on the shiver but it's VIP. Something new though is his mom said they'd like for him to announce before the new year.

BShark said:

When this is over, whoever the DD account is needs to come out and say it.

That was me, but I'm just a new guy.

@IndyHawk we are glad you are here, both of you!