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Nov 28, 2017 01:41 PM #1

I go caught in a Jayhawk internet rabbit hole this morning and saw where Andrew White III scored 37 in his debut. I started getting curious how some past Jayhawks were doing so I looked it up. Just merely posting here if any of you were a bit curious too. These are all the stats of this morning:

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Nov 28, 2017 04:27 PM #2

Perry’s tearing up oz. how appropriate.

Nov 28, 2017 05:14 PM #3

Cliff Alexander putting together a nice line in the G League. He may get a shot if he can keep that up.

Its unfortunate that the NBA moved away from a guy with TRob's skillset. He was definitely a guy that I was rooting for to succeed in the League. It's nice to see that he's doing well elsewhere. I don't know that he will get another NBA shot, but you never know.

Nov 28, 2017 05:22 PM #4

@justanotherfan

TRob is a tweener in the NBA, too small to score on the bigs inside and not good enough outside shooter to play SF. He is a very good rebounder though.

Nov 28, 2017 05:28 PM #5

Man, I know it's listing anyone that was ever at KU but Micah Downs is a rough inclusion.

Nov 28, 2017 05:32 PM #6

@BShark

At least C.J. Giles is not there.

Nov 28, 2017 05:47 PM #7

@JayHawkFanToo @justanotherfan I would be shocked to see Trob or Cliff on a NBA from here on out, as stated everyone wants a stretch 4 or a true 7 footer center down low. No room for guys that can’t handle the ball and hit outside shots the power forward is pretty much dead in the NBA and our 4 guard line up from a high low guru in Self is proof it’s dyeing in college.

Nov 28, 2017 05:50 PM #8

@BShark
I debated right before I hit submit; but, once a Jayhawk...always a Jayhawk in my book.

Nov 28, 2017 05:58 PM #9

kjayhawks said:

@JayHawkFanToo @justanotherfan I would be shocked to see Trob or Cliff on a NBA from here on out, as stated everyone wants a stretch 4 or a true 7 footer center down low. No room for guys that can’t handle the ball and hit outside shots the power forward is pretty much dead in the NBA and our 4 guard line up from a high low guru in Self is proof it’s dyeing in college.

+1

Even next year when we are looking at going back to playing 2 bigs, the main 4s are going to be Dedric and KJ.

Nov 28, 2017 07:44 PM #10

@bmensch1

Amazing world when TROB is overseas and Diallo is in the show!

Nov 28, 2017 07:46 PM #11

Frank yanking 1.77 rpg even in the L!

Nov 28, 2017 07:51 PM #12

So glad RR is still out there making people better.

Nov 28, 2017 07:53 PM #13

Embiid the Equitorial Monster in the NBA!!!!

Nov 28, 2017 07:54 PM #14

Naadir kicking some kielbasa!!!

Jan 16, 2018 07:49 PM #15

Just a little curious how some folks were doing professionally. Looks like Cliff is fulfilling some potential...less a 5 game suspension for drugs.

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Andrew White is obviously mucked up here. He has 0 stats.

Jan 16, 2018 07:58 PM #16

On more recent and not so good news from ESPN:

Mason recently underwent an MRI, which revealed a tear in the plantar fascia tendon in his right heel. He's expected to miss roughly 4-to-6 weeks, James Ham of NBC Sports Bay Area reports.

Spin: Mason had reportedly been dealing with some soreness in his heel, which prompted the Kings to have him undergo additional testing. It's now been confirmed to be a more serious issue, which will cost him 4-to-6 weeks of action. That would put a return somewhere around mid-to-late February, though that will depend on how well the recovery process goes. The rookie second-round pick's absence should pave the way for guys like De'Aaron Fox, George Hill and Garrett Temple to see slightly expanded roles.

The Kings certainly could use him, they are 1-6 in the 7 games he has missed so far.

Jan 16, 2018 08:07 PM #17

@bmensch1 If it weren't for the twins, Embiid would have twice as many points as ALL KU big guys in the NBA combined. For "Big Man U" it is pretty surprising how many big men bit players we have produced. Amazing longevity for Nick, Cole, and Darrell as they post avgs of 1 to 3 pts every year.

I read about Nick once that the coaching staff likes having him because he is like another coach, and they can put him in the game without any worries about what to expect. I get that, and expect it is the same with Cole, Darrell, and Tarik, but it is still fascinating to me how the salary rules in the NBA have combined in a way that keeps our guys rich for only a few mins per game.

Jan 16, 2018 09:11 PM #18

@mayjay

You are correct. When he signed his last contract the gist was that he would not play much but be a mentor to their promising bigs.

On the other hand, Kelly Oubre is having a very quiet but very successful season for the Wizards.

Jan 19, 2018 03:09 AM #19

JoJo lead the 76ers to a W tonight in the TD Garden over the Celtics. He only lead the team in points (26), rebounds (16), assists (6) and blocks (2). He also was named a starter for the all star game. Marcus had 14 and 6 but the team was a -16 When he was on the floor.

Jan 19, 2018 03:15 AM #20

@bmensch1 Whoa, didn't realize White was playing for the Hawks and doing so well. He's the third leading scorer among former Jayhawks. Who'd a thunk it?

Jan 19, 2018 03:17 AM #21

@wissox It’s an error. He has no stats.!0_1516331922762_C7E79612-7FE3-4EC6-9E6C-A6C6E22B03DD.jpeg ↗

Jan 19, 2018 04:14 AM #22

@dylans Wow, that makes him just like me, no stats!

Jan 19, 2018 04:57 PM #23

@dylans @wissox Yes, he has stats!

In 25 games in the G League this year, Andrew averaged 16.5 pts, 5.2 rebs, and 1.5 assists.

He just signed with Atlanta on Jan 15. That screen shot was only about his lack of NBA game stats.

Jan 19, 2018 05:50 PM #24

KU fans are going to enjoy this... ↗

Jan 19, 2018 06:35 PM #25

mayjay said:

@dylans @wissox Yes, he has stats!

In 25 games in the G League this year, Andrew averaged 16.5 pts, 5.2 rebs, and 1.5 assists.

He just signed with Atlanta on Jan 15. That screen shot was only about his lack of NBA game stats.

The rest were nba stats. So white has no stats yet.

Jan 19, 2018 10:35 PM #26

@dylans Bottom half of the chart is G league and foreign.

Jan 20, 2018 04:16 AM #27

@mayjay Yes you are correct. Wrong thread on my end.

Jan 21, 2018 05:12 PM #28

@mayjay

The low minute, low production KU bigs prove how important it is to the NBA GMs and Coaches to fill those slots, when stars allow, with guys that won't create on- or off-court problems. Most end of bench guys in the NBA are not going to help win rings for them on the floor. Except for the rare projects in development, end of bench (EOB) guys can only lose rings for them. The bling years of gangstah stars filling the EOB slots with their posse members seem mercifully behind us. Today's high buck stars are relatively level headed and business like in their approach, compared with the gang banger wave of the naught decade. It appears the stars, regardless of back ground, are getting better advice, or at least listening to it more, and telling the stars to surround themselves with EOBers that are professional in approach, rather than partying sycophants. Frankly, this seems one of the most positive signs in the NBA right now. It is being treated more like a profession again, and less like a gold rush.

Jan 21, 2018 05:49 PM #29

Wayne Selden dropped a career high last night in a loss to the pelicans. Dude had 31 points off of 11/16, 5/7 from 3 all in 27 minutes. With Chalmers and Harrison injured Wayne should be getting more minutes.

Jan 21, 2018 11:37 PM #30

@kjayhawks I know Ben Mac had a really great game just recently too! Awesome news, just need a chance

Jan 29, 2018 01:37 AM #31

Josh Jackson 0-13 today. Ouch!

Jan 29, 2018 01:45 AM #32

@wissox he had been doing much better too.

Jan 29, 2018 02:14 AM #33

@Crimsonorblue22 You're right, I think he had a career high the other day.

Jan 29, 2018 03:26 AM #34

Did Jeff get cut by the Mavs?

I saw where Cole was voted the most overpaid pro in the NBA.

Current Contract. Cole Aldrich signed a 3 year / $21,900,000 contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves, including $21,900,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,300,000. In 2017-18

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Jan 29, 2018 11:03 AM #35

@wrwlumpy

Yes, Withey was released by the Mavs December 19, 2017. If a team headed to the playoffs has an injury, he might be picked up as an insurance policy but given his decreased playing time chances are he might be done with the NBA; this is one time where I really hope I am wrong since Withey is one of my favorite KU players.

Jan 29, 2018 11:04 PM #36

Not quite pro but former Jayhawk Frankamp has now a NCAA record ↗ previously held by Steve Kerr.

Jan 30, 2018 01:18 AM #37

I think ol Bartenderchic mama was slightly misinformed. Billy preston first game...6 minutes, 3 fouls, 2 points, 1/3 shooting, 1 stael, 1 rebound. I don't have stats from 2000 years ago, but I'm pretty sure jesus Christ had a better debut.

Jan 30, 2018 04:24 AM #38

@JayHawkFanToo 40 straight games with a 3 ptr! They corrected the story. Not an NCAA record b/c CF's came over 2 seasons. Kerr's record of 38 straight was, and still is, in a single season.

Very impressive for him, tho!

Jan 31, 2018 04:51 AM #39

@bmensch1 haha agreed. We are 18-4 without him, wished he was playing but I think she got that my kids the next LeBron in her head a little too much. Hopefully he plays well and gets drafted. Jesus was dominate for sure but he made everyone play on WATER! 😂😂

Feb 01, 2018 11:33 AM #40

Haven't paid much attention to Josh Jackson's rookie year but it looks like he's starting to turn the corner for the Suns.

Averaging 14.5 points in January which is 4 to 6 points better then any other month so far. He's had four 20 point efforts in the past few weeks. The Suns are no good but its nice to see they are finally letting their first round pick play more and impact the game. Seems like he's starting to respond

Feb 01, 2018 12:40 PM #41

Selden started last night and had 24, 6 3's.. doing well lately

Feb 01, 2018 05:32 PM #42

Embiid and Selden also had great outings with Selden leading all scorers. Marcus also had a good game but had a nasty fall after a dunk and had to leave the game. A good night for a Jayhawk players.

Feb 02, 2018 12:16 AM #43

@JayHawkFanToo Selden's usage in a tournament I'm playing on Draft Kings is 41% tonight. That means the cats out of the bag. I've been using him and Markieff the last few days and have been doing real well.

Feb 02, 2018 01:04 AM #44

Selden's last year version is one of my favorite Jayhawks. That was a great season that ended prematurely. I'm glad to see he's playing well.

Feb 06, 2018 02:59 PM #45

Jackson has scored 20+ in 4 straight games for the Suns. His shooting numbers are still really bad but its nice to see him finally adjusting the game and contributing

Feb 06, 2018 04:16 PM #46

@wissox Selden was great as a junior, I still think that team was one of Self's best that didnt get to the FF. The World University Games really jump started that year and he was awesome. I still remember the goofy commentators "Selden smooth as creamy peanut butter" lol.

Feb 06, 2018 06:05 PM #47

Arthur made a rare appearance and had a decent line. Oubre still playing great and although he is coming off the bench, he is playing starter minutes; great but quiet season.

Feb 06, 2018 06:42 PM #48

@BeddieKU23 Phoenix just has no idea how to utilize their roster.

Booker at PG, JJ at 2, Warren at 3. Their 3 best players are all playing out of position currently.

And instead of them drafting a PG this year, we all know they will draft Porter Jr or Jaren Jackson because they love 6'8 athletes too much.

Feb 06, 2018 09:34 PM #49

@bmensch1 CooL! Nice get on the stat updates!!

Feb 07, 2018 11:05 AM #50

16 and 10 for JJ for the hopeless Suns

Feb 07, 2018 11:05 AM #51

@Kcmatt7

Yeah the Suns are a mess. At least JJ is getting a ton of PT at this point

Feb 07, 2018 11:06 AM #52

Grown man line

Embiid 27, 12 and 3 blocks in a win over the Wizards. Oubre had 10, Morris 11

Feb 07, 2018 10:47 PM #53

Billy Preston

1st game: 6 minutes, 2 points, 1 rebound, 1 of 3 shooting (0-0 from the line, 0-0 from 3), -2 +/-, 3 fouls in a 94-92 winning game

2nd game: 20 minutes, 11 points, 6 rebounds, 4 of 12 shooting (3-4 from the line, 0-1 from 3), -10 +/-, 5 fouls in a 93-79 loss

Feb 07, 2018 11:08 PM #54

@bmensch1 how many games left? Nobody wins!

Feb 08, 2018 12:15 AM #55

@Crimsonorblue22 There are only 3 more games left. It's weird...they play on the 9th...and then take a month off (or so) till 3/2 and then play on 3/9. weird schedule.

I tried to find out how much cash he gave up KU for...but trying to find the bottom of the barrel eurobasketball salaries is quite difficult. I merely tried to math it out and came with he's somewhere in the $2k to $4k per month based on yearly budget for the club. Probably gets a car and an apartment too. (I hate to set myself up with that perfect softball right there for the internet trolls, but it's typical in Europe to give that to Americans)

Feb 08, 2018 01:18 AM #56

@bmensch1 That salary would be what he gave up being in limbo for. We may never know what he got for giving up KU, but it may have also included a car...

Feb 08, 2018 01:27 AM #57

@bmensch1 that's awful!🤮

Feb 08, 2018 04:45 AM #58

@Crimsonorblue22 ...Awfully appropriate.

Feb 08, 2018 02:13 PM #59

Wiggins became the 6th youngest player in NBA history to reach 6,000 points. Elpoyo threw his TV seeing that.

Feb 08, 2018 02:23 PM #60

BeddieKU23 said:

Wiggins became the 6th youngest player in NBA history to reach 6,000 points. Elpoyo threw his TV seeing that.

There is a dumpster fire level thread on this on the phog if you are interested. Elpoyo is the third member of the troll trinity along with a couple that posted in that thread.

Feb 08, 2018 04:42 PM #61

We miss you too Travis!

Feb 28, 2018 07:40 PM #62

I know the Suns are tanking but Josh Jackson has quietly put up 9 20 point games since January. Shooting the ball better. Good to see

Feb 28, 2018 08:41 PM #63

@BeddieKU23 He's going to be a big surprise next season. I think once he has an entire season of film and time to work on everything, he will be a different player. Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised to see him add 10-15 lbs of muscle in the offseason.

Mar 01, 2018 10:40 AM #64

Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 He's going to be a big surprise next season. I think once he has an entire season of film and time to work on everything, he will be a different player. Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised to see him add 10-15 lbs of muscle in the offseason.

Had a career high last night against the Grizzlies.

29 pts 7 boards 4 assists 2 steals 2 blocks. 10-13 from the FT line.

I agree I expect to see him improve next season. The key is how much the Suns invest in actually getting better. They have zero veteran leadership and they lack a big who can give them consistent scoring. Bender and Chriss have not been the answer so far.

Mar 01, 2018 11:37 AM #65

@BeddieKU23 Maybe they can pay 100 large to get a big from a local program?

Mar 01, 2018 11:48 AM #66

mayjay said:

@BeddieKU23 Maybe they can pay 100 large to get a big from a local program?

That's a good one!

I think the Suns would be thrilled to get Ayton, he's a terrific player. They have whiffed hard drafting bigs lately. Alex Len, Bender, Chriss.. Yikes Suns franchise is a mess

Mar 01, 2018 01:30 PM #67

Andrew White III got called up to Atlanta from their G League this week. They have a small forward who has an injury. He played 19 mins with 4 pts Monday night. AW3 was not active for their game last night, however.

Mar 01, 2018 03:33 PM #68

@mayjay It amazes me with AWIII’s flat footed D and general slowness that he’s done as well as he has. I really thought he would be a good player for KU during his Sr. Year, but not an NBA player. Go Andrew!

Mar 01, 2018 03:42 PM #69

@mayjay @dylans Remember when it was a choice between White and Greene? Greene seemed like the right choice. It was painful when White was quasi-forced out. I would have preferred no Andrew Wiggins and just go with White, preferring the four year player thing, but that was a long and distant discussion.

Mar 01, 2018 03:51 PM #70

@HighEliteMajor AWIII was my favorite player at the time. Tough guy with a great work ethic. Really disappointed when he got forced out. But, i am happy to see him succeed everywhere he has been so far.

Mar 01, 2018 04:08 PM #71

@BeddieKU23

The Suns and Kings are the two most dysfunctional franchises in the NBA and unfortunately several KU players have landed there which did not help their careers.

Mar 01, 2018 04:24 PM #72

@Kcmatt7 I think he would have worked out really well here. A guy that if we just gave him the 3 spot, would have been an excellent player for Self.

Mar 01, 2018 04:26 PM #73

@HighEliteMajor @Kcmatt7 Proof that White was forced out? We had 11 scholarship players in the season after he left. I remember hearing some stuff about his dad being the force behind the move. Admittedly he wasn't playing much. He also went to Syracuse after Nebraska so he moved around a lot.

Mar 01, 2018 05:37 PM #74

@BShark I remember at the beginning of the season it was basically an AWIII showdown with Greene. Self chose Greene. AWIII left after he lost the battle. I'd be pissed too if I worked my tail off all summer for Self to play a sh*thead like Greene more than me.

So far, I can't fault a single decision that AWIII made. He is in the NBA right now.

Mar 01, 2018 05:43 PM #75

@Kcmatt7 I'm just saying that I don't think AWIII was told he can't stay. UNLIKE Tharpe and Greene after their JR years.

I do think Self made a mistake picking Greene over White for minutes.

Mar 01, 2018 05:59 PM #76

@BShark Yea I suppose. But Self knew what would be the cause of his actions.

Hind sight is 20/20.

Apr 03, 2018 11:01 AM #77

Josh Jackson on a heck of a run since the Suns went full on tanking. 10 straight games of 15+ points. Since January 1st he's had 10+ games of 20 or more. Needs to put some serious work into his shooting but at least he's proving he can play at this level

Apr 03, 2018 06:55 PM #78

Ive said it before that i think Josh can be a better pro than Wiggs

Apr 03, 2018 07:07 PM #79

@Lulufulu

If he ever learns to shoot he'll be a more complete player. Wiggs and JJ are not winning any games of horse