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Markese Jacobs
Mar 01, 2018 03:32 PM #1

I got to watch future Jayhawk Markese Jacobs last night in action. This was a sectional game actually played at my alma mater in the Chicago suburbs.

His team, Uplift Charter was playing Orr, a school in the Garfield Park neighborhood, one of Chicago's deadliest areas. Dozens of homicides last year out of a population of 50,000 is all you need to know about where Orr is located.

Orr is a defending state champ, and was featured last Saturday with a well done 30-30 style documentary on Fox. They are very well coached and nearly beat national powerhouse Simeon in the city championships.

In December the two teams played each other and Orr obliterated Uplift, so I wasn't expecting too much. However Uplift jumped all over them and led by as many as 19 in the first half. Jacobs, whom I was there to watch was amazing, pull up 3's, lightning quick accurate passes meeting their target.

Uplift played a little out of control, especially with a big lead and lost in overtime.

But here's what I saw in Markese. INTENSITY. He fouled out in OT. At a huddle, he stood, fists clenched, fighting tears. This is an extremely competitive young man. He is still only a junior so he has time to funnel that intensity into even better play. I was wishing last night he played the coach on the floor and got his team to play more under control because if he did I'd be going again Friday night to watch him play.

I think you all will enjoy watching him play.

Mar 01, 2018 03:58 PM #2

@wissox Thanks for the update. I know it is cool to watch guys that we are recruiting, or even better, guys that have committed.

Mar 01, 2018 04:27 PM #3

There was actually a documentary on Orr produced in part by D Wade that aired recently on Fox.

Oh I see this was mentioned in the OP. I should read more. :joy:

Mar 01, 2018 06:21 PM #4

BShark said:

There was actually a documentary on Orr produced in part by D Wade that aired recently on Fox.

Oh I see this was mentioned in the OP. I should read more. :joy:

Did you watch the program? I DVR'd it, and Villanova's game went to OT, so the DVR turned off at the allotted time, thus I couldn't finish it.

The coaches son, Chase Adams, was a youtube sensation when he was a youngster. He was a dazzling quick little guy and gained some fame because of it.

Mar 01, 2018 07:22 PM #5

@wissox It's worth watching. I assume it will be up to stream soon if it isn't already.

Mar 02, 2018 02:26 PM #6

@wissox

How did Markese play overall? Did he look better then the last time you saw him play?

Mar 02, 2018 02:36 PM #7
Mar 02, 2018 05:58 PM #8

@BeddieKU23

I thought he looked really good. Made some great shots. Not sure of the assists, I think he had quite a few.

Mar 02, 2018 06:09 PM #9

wissox said:

@BeddieKU23

I thought he looked really good. Made some great shots. Not sure of the assists, I think he had quite a few.

How was his leadership running the team. We know he's an explosive guard that can score. How did his outside shot look? Thanks its great getting to hear how a future hawk looks on the court.

Mar 02, 2018 08:54 PM #10

Considering the depth of the team he was facing, he looked really good. His big wasn't having a very good game, another kid was picking up his slack a little bit, but it really fell on Markese. He reminded me of Mason quite a bit, same body, height, etc. He shot a lot of FT's, made most. He probably made 3 of 6 3 pointers. He's got a little bit of showboating in him that will need to be curtailed. At one point he did a crossover move, backed out of it, his defender stumbled. He decided to do it again and turned it over. Totally unnecessary but he was looking for another crowd reaction like he'd just had!

As far as leadership, the thing, his team frittered away a large lead. I was looking for him to settle his team down. But they kept rushing shots, wasting possessions and a team with 5-6 D-1 players on it made them pay.

@BShark Nice find on the video! Haven't had a chance to watch, but will when I get home.

Mar 02, 2018 09:08 PM #11

@wissox People want to compare him to Sherron because Chicago, but Mason is actually a better comp. Not saying he will have the same kind of career at KU but he has a lot of the same attributes including mental toughness and great athleticism.

Mar 02, 2018 09:13 PM #12

I just hope that he can add a few more inches before he gets here. If he ends up 6'1 or 6'2 that'd be tremendous.

Mar 02, 2018 09:20 PM #13

@Kcmatt7 I don't think he has grown any since he committed.

Also @wissox while he will need to reign it in a bit and going for another crossover instead of just shooting it is a bit much, Self's FF teams at KU have both had multiple guys that just dripped with that level of swag. It's knife edge stuff but hopefully Markese is just the right amount of crazy like Mario, Tyshawn, TRob etc...

Mar 03, 2018 03:45 AM #14

My wife and I make a nice cameo at the 9:36 mark of the video. The kid is putting his arm around his coach and we're right above the coaches head. I'm representing the Jayhawks with my hat.

Mar 03, 2018 04:18 AM #15

@wissox Good PR! Did he ever see your hat?

Mar 03, 2018 04:19 AM #16

@wissox More importantly, did you lead the crowd in the Rock Chalk chant?

Mar 03, 2018 05:56 AM #17

@mayjay no eye contact was made. No chant was chanted although I wanted to sing my high school fight song!

Mar 03, 2018 02:02 PM #18

@wissox Your wife seems thrilled to be there. :joy:

But seriously that's pretty cool.

Mar 03, 2018 03:42 PM #19

@BShark she points out I didn't look all that thrilled at the moment either! She's a good sport and will attend events like that with me even though she never would have gone otherwise.

Mar 08, 2018 09:15 PM #20

Made the Chicago Sun-Times All Area team.

Apr 03, 2018 01:32 AM #21
Apr 03, 2018 02:44 AM #22

Langford worries me. Things like this : https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/top-college-basketball-recruit-romeo-langfords-dad-rips-john-calipari-for-u-19-debacle/ ↗

Apr 03, 2018 02:53 AM #23

@KUSTEVE Wrong thread? But yeah, helicopter dad alert.

Apr 03, 2018 03:49 AM #24

@KUSTEVE

According to that story Vanderbilt and Indiana are the favorites to land Langford.

Apr 03, 2018 03:52 AM #25

@KUSTEVE Dad seems like a little much. But if he comes here, he isn’t sitting so I don’t expect any issues.

Apr 05, 2018 12:35 AM #26

I'm gonna love Jacobs. This kid has swag and a healthy attitude. He's contagious baby.

Apr 05, 2018 12:36 AM #27

KUSTEVE said:

Langford worries me. Things like this : https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/top-college-basketball-recruit-romeo-langfords-dad-rips-john-calipari-for-u-19-debacle/ ↗

He's fine. This is directed at Calipari. His dad is not Carl Henry crazy.

Apr 05, 2018 12:44 AM #28

@BShark

Haha...love his shoes. Crimson and Blue...they don't even match his uni.

Apr 05, 2018 12:52 AM #29

@truehawk93 No one can doubt his love for KU. It's pretty damn awesome.

May 06, 2018 04:58 PM #30

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article210318719.html ↗

May 07, 2018 03:09 AM #31

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Aug 25, 2018 03:39 AM #32

Just read Markese has reopened his recruitment which I guess means he's no longer going to be a Jayhawk.

Aug 25, 2018 03:45 AM #33

@wissox Dang, he really seemed to love the hawks. Too bad he didn’t develop as hoped.

Aug 25, 2018 01:01 PM #34

dylans said:

@wissox Dang, he really seemed to love the hawks. Too bad he didn’t develop as hoped.

Ya he absolutely LOVED KU , just think he realized the numbers game and playing time ahead. - I mean pretty sure Devon will be back for his So season - - - Moore will be back sorry but I just think he would have struggled for minutes next year , He keeps dropping in the rankings like was said somewhere close to losing the 4 star ranking , I'm not really sure why but some have said his height was an issue and then too that he had leveled off put that with the fact he saw KU continuing to recruit other pg's made the writing look pretty clear. - - Looks like a great guy just a numbers thing I think wish him nothing but the best. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Aug 25, 2018 01:11 PM #35

jayballer73 said:

dylans said:

@wissox Dang, he really seemed to love the hawks. Too bad he didn’t develop as hoped.

Ya he absolutely LOVED KU , just think he realized the numbers game and playing time ahead. - I mean pretty sure Devon will be back for his So season - - - Moore will be back sorry but I just think he would have struggled for minutes next year , He keeps dropping in the rankings like was said somewhere close to losing the 4 star ranking , I'm not really sure why but some have said his height was an issue and then too that he had leveled off put that with the fact he saw KU continuing to recruit other pg's made the writing look pretty clear. - - Looks like a great guy just a numbers thing I think wish him nothing but the best. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He is 5'10'' and doesn't have the PG skills and explosive athleticism to make up for it at the KU level. His height is definitely an issue.

At least KU let him know now, so he can have a good fair shake at a 2nd recruitment. He has offers from FSU, Nebraska and VT since the announcement.

If you read around his twitter and some of the guys around Mac Irvin Fire, there is definitely some bad blood about this. The reasons you laid out are good reasons for him to decommit but I think if it were entirely up to Jacobs he would still be committed. Even recently he knew the situation and that he would likely sit his first year at a minimum. Now we see KU pushing hard for an unranked PG out of Arkansas before this was "announced" I really think this was a KU/Self decision. Just my opinion on that.

Aug 25, 2018 01:19 PM #36

@BShark You said you think this was a Self decision. I always wonder how these things work....Self laying out what he has to do to earn playing time? Telling him directly he won't play much?

Aug 25, 2018 01:24 PM #37

Illinois fans seem to want him, though I don't think he would do that well in the BIG tbh. Also he isn't near 6' but heh.

Hawk8086 said:

@BShark You said you think this was a Self decision. I always wonder how these things work....Self laying out what he has to do to earn playing time? Telling him directly he won't play much?

Probably more stuttering involved. :grinning:

But yeah I would think Self would be pretty direct about it. It would be interesting to know the particulars, but we probably never will.

Aug 25, 2018 02:17 PM #38

BShark said:

jayballer73 said:

dylans said:

@wissox Dang, he really seemed to love the hawks. Too bad he didn’t develop as hoped.

Ya he absolutely LOVED KU , just think he realized the numbers game and playing time ahead. - I mean pretty sure Devon will be back for his So season - - - Moore will be back sorry but I just think he would have struggled for minutes next year , He keeps dropping in the rankings like was said somewhere close to losing the 4 star ranking , I'm not really sure why but some have said his height was an issue and then too that he had leveled off put that with the fact he saw KU continuing to recruit other pg's made the writing look pretty clear. - - Looks like a great guy just a numbers thing I think wish him nothing but the best. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He is 5'10'' and doesn't have the PG skills and explosive athleticism to make up for it at the KU level. His height is definitely an issue.

At least KU let him know now, so he can have a good fair shake at a 2nd recruitment. He has offers from FSU, Nebraska and VT since the announcement.

If you read around his twitter and some of the guys around Mac Irvin Fire, there is definitely some bad blood about this. The reasons you laid out are good reasons for him to decommit but I think if it were entirely up to Jacobs he would still be committed. Even recently he knew the situation and that he would likely sit his first year at a minimum. Now we see KU pushing hard for an unranked PG out of Arkansas before this was "announced" I really think this was a KU/Self decision. Just my opinion on that.

Ya that very well could be true. - -Coach might of said just think it would be best to look elsewhere for his goals. -- - - I read your post yesterday all about the bad blood thing with the Mac Irvin Fire thing - -the stud pg they have - -well we shall see how that might play out down the road I think might bite us in the rear but that's how things goes sometimes. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Aug 25, 2018 02:27 PM #39

@jayballer73 I think despite the connection with Howard he is a pretty heavy Illinois lean.

Aug 25, 2018 04:37 PM #40

FWIW, in his announcement he indicated he is looking at the best place for him but he will still consider KU.

Aug 25, 2018 05:53 PM #41

JayHawkFanToo said:

FWIW, in his announcement he indicated he is looking at the best place for him but he will still consider KU.

Yeah, but KU isn't really considering him. Of course no one tied to KU will come out and say that, it's common courtesy to let the optics for the player be good.

Aug 25, 2018 06:54 PM #42

Illinois has offered.

Aug 26, 2018 03:07 AM #43

I’d be shocked if he comes to Kansas, We already have Garrett, Moore, Dotson and Grimes that can run the point. I be shocked if 3 of those 4 didn’t return next season, possibly all 4. Not to mention we have a few guys rated considerably higher on our radar.

Aug 26, 2018 11:53 AM #44

kjayhawks said:

I’d be shocked if he comes to Kansas, We already have Garrett, Moore, Dotson and Grimes that can run the point. I be shocked if 3 of those 4 didn’t return next season, possibly all 4. Not to mention we have a few guys rated considerably higher on our radar.

He's not. He decommitted.

Grimes is planning to be OAD. Other three should be back.

Aug 26, 2018 04:39 PM #45

@BShark

While it is not unprecedented for a player to decommit and then commit again (4-start Brandon Williams decommitted from Arizona and later committed again), looks like Jacobs has already several P5 offers and will likely sign with a program where he has a better shot at playing time.

I really like the kid, he was a big KU fan who signed early and every picture I saw of him he was always wearing KU gear. I am sure it is hard on him but having several offers from quality programs probably eases the blow.

Aug 26, 2018 04:43 PM #46

@JayHawkFanToo that's a different situation entirely. This is KU saying no thanks. Things could go wrong but at that point would Jacobs even want to come back?

Aug 26, 2018 05:48 PM #47

@BShark

Agreed. Hometown Illinois looks like the reasonable destination.

Aug 27, 2018 02:29 PM #48

Jacobs will be a solid P5 player, but he will be more suited for a mid tier P5 program than a power program. I was hoping he would hit a growth spurt and get to 6-1 or so, but that hasn't panned out. I will still be rooting for him to do well wherever he lands because he seems like a solid person.