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Self's "A" Game; Look At Us Now.
Mar 26, 2018 12:34 AM #1

Teams don't reach the Final Four without there being a clear and obvious contribution from the man on the bench.

Tonight, we saw the "A" game.

What the nation saw heading into the game -- what I saw heading into the game -- was a mammoth Duke team inside. Big, after big, after big. Playing a four out, one in team that had as its second big, a kid just 90 days removed from high school. And who had as its first bit a lumbering lug that while very skilled, was quick to tire and an easy mark for silly fouls.

Bill Self scripted an absolutely brilliant game plan defensively.

Quick traps, immediate help, help off the bounce, prioritizing threats, trusting match ups -- you name it. What I find incredibly impressive is off the traps, how well our guys slid into the correct lanes, and how they generally were always in a position with their eyes in the right place. Not an easy task. Our defense put Duke on the defensive much of the night. It appeared that Duke (particularly Bagley) was not fully ready for our aggressiveness. Self had this team ready to play defense against the oversized Blue Devils. Without it, this game would have been over quickly.

One tremendous decision was to put Svi on Bagley -- and to trust Svi. What a terrific game he had. Of course, he hit the big three. But even bigger was the job he did guarding a bigger, more athletic Bagley. A guy who could jump out of gym. But on many occasions, Svi was able to be in the right spot, deny Bagley the ball, and disrupt. That's all Svi had to do was disrupt, and he did it magnificently.

This game was won on the defensive end. And defense like this just doesn't happen. Two months ago, who would have believed that this team, in this moment, would win with defense?

Bill Self took a team he was complaining about being soft, and lacking chemistry (just last month), and created a unit that could coalesce into a monster defensive squad.

Turmoil, uncertainty, criticism, adversity -- this team has suffered this fate more than any KU team in recent memory. But look at the product. Just look at it.

We now have the opportunity for our moment. Our beautiful, ever-lasting moment. Two to go.

And this season, which was Bill Self's greatest coaching job yet, is not over. Not by a long shot. This team has experience, tenacity, and character. And it has a toughness that cannot just be created because a coach says so.

This team has a toughness that was earned. Earned, in part, by the bitter disappointment of the last two seasons. Being on the brink of the what is a life changing accomplishment, only to fall short. Or as the players feel deep inside, only to fail.

Why are we going to San Antonio? It's because of the journey. It's because of Nova in '16 and Oregon in '17. It's because Vick went into a shell. It's because Newman wasn't meshing. It's because Preston was a mirage. It's because Mitch stepped up. It's because of our All-American. It's because Doke got hurt. It's because DeSousa became a man. And it's because this team became a team.

But more than anything, it's because of the boss on the bench. The man on the bench took a team that many thought was rudderless, and steered it through some incredibly stormy seas. He took control. And we are in the Final Four because of it.

So look at us now.

Mar 26, 2018 12:39 AM #2

Well said - thanks

Would Newman be considered the best KU transfer ever?

Mar 26, 2018 12:42 AM #3

It appears we will have the reverse with Nova. Nova has better guard play than big play. But Nova struggled against TT. TT missed some opportunities and Self should use the game tape. I think there was exposed opportunities against Nova.

Mar 26, 2018 12:42 AM #4

Never would have thought Svi would turn in a virtuoso defensive performance after some of his games against ISU in previous years in particular.

Mar 26, 2018 12:43 AM #5

We are just tough!

Mar 26, 2018 12:46 AM #6

Crimsonorblue22 said:

We are just tough!

We are playing through the final buzzer and not giving up

Mar 26, 2018 12:46 AM #7

@Crimsonorblue22 - - REAL TOUGH just really don't seem to get down - -mercy I'm to old for these type of games. - -SVI clutch shot in the end of the game.- - Vick sweet game - - and MALIK - - what can you say - - -MALIK - - - MALIK - - MALIK - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 26, 2018 12:47 AM #8

Do you think Coach Self will be talking to Beard and Huggins this week?

Mar 26, 2018 12:47 AM #9

@truehawk93 - -I think they showed Texas Tech missed 16 layups in their game - - -SIXTEEN

Mar 26, 2018 12:48 AM #10

It was a team effort, bench included, things that don't show in the book.

Mar 26, 2018 12:48 AM #11

@Crimsonorblue22 - -Silvio actually had some good minutes they said defensively

Mar 26, 2018 12:49 AM #12

Nova will be a whole different beast. A different gameplan will be required. Can't dare them to shoot threes.

Their five best players are...from three: 45%, 44% (their freaking center!), 42%, 39% and 39%.

Mar 26, 2018 12:49 AM #13

@BShark Time for some payback. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 26, 2018 12:50 AM #14

We’re playing defense and out rebounding teams now?? On top of the shooting ?

Wow

Mar 26, 2018 12:52 AM #15

@Bosthawk In addition to Rex Walters I mentioned in the other thread, there was Withey.

Mar 26, 2018 12:52 AM #16

@Bosthawk - - 47-32 -- out rebounding the best offensive rebounding team in the Nation - -how big was that - -SVI a double double - -points and rebounds and really good against Bagley

Mar 26, 2018 12:52 AM #17

Still watching post game on spectrum sports, I'm so touched by these guys. They are so deserving. 😭 can't stop tearing up for them. All the past players, other ku teams, fb sb track, past fb players tweeting for them. Coach Self kissing his gbaby!

Mar 26, 2018 12:53 AM #18

jayballer73 said

@truehawk93 - -I think they showed Texas Tech missed 16 layups in their game - - -SIXTEEN

Tech has some great players, no doubt, but this is new territory and I said during the game the atmosphere alone can play against you too. They could've won that game 2-3 different times. Beard is a good coach, but he just couldn't adjust or find the right answer.

Mar 26, 2018 12:55 AM #19

The Vincenza kid was hanging all over the rim. I want to see him try against Doke or Silvio.

Mar 26, 2018 12:56 AM #20

Great tourney year for the B12...I thought overall they played well.

Mar 26, 2018 12:57 AM #21

truehawk93 said:

The Vincenza kid was hanging all over the rim. I want to see him try against Doke or Silvio.

Seems like Villanova always has some punky white kid with an Italian name.

Mar 26, 2018 12:58 AM #22

I was at the nova -TT game today. Tech never got Untracked in my opinion, and they made poor offensive desicions down the stretch.
Nova flat outplayed them in the last 8 minutes. Smarter play on both sides of the court. They are a good good team

So are we

Mar 26, 2018 12:58 AM #23

Nova has beaten WVU and TT...Ok..our turn to show the best the B12 has to offer. Remember, this is a different KU team than what Jay Wright is used to.

Mar 26, 2018 01:02 AM #24

The Big 12 ha had a very good tournament so far. The ACC shut out of the FF by teams from the Big 12 and the MVC...MVC? Holly crap, that will leave a mark. :smiley_cat:

Mar 26, 2018 01:03 AM #25

Game being rebroadcast on CBSSPORTS network starting right now for anyone who wants to relive or tape it.

Mar 26, 2018 01:06 AM #26

Self's mastery will be in full effect when he plays Mitch solid minutes against Nova after him playing 2 minutes against Clemson and Duke.

Mar 26, 2018 01:12 AM #27

Looks like Silvio was a good recruiting decision by self and the staff.
He may become a monster player. Very tough and athletic.

Mar 26, 2018 01:12 AM #28

Bosthawk said:

Looks like Silvio was a good recruiting decision by self and the staff.
He may become a monster player. Very tough and athletic.

I expect him to start next year if Doke goes pro.

Mar 26, 2018 01:13 AM #29

@mayjay
Right - good point

Mar 26, 2018 01:17 AM #30

I have no idea what to do with Nova besides feed Doke the ball and get Spellman in foul trouble. You get him in foul trouble and KU wins that game. We let him run around and do his thing, we lose. Doke is the key to the Nova game. it will be a race to 80.

Mar 26, 2018 01:20 AM #31

@Bosthawk The Silvio decision, and getting him eligible, saved this season. Period.

Newman the best transfer ever? I'm struggling to come up with another name. This is where Self's management is masterful. Think about where we were two months ago? Have to give Malik complete credit two. Buying in when your basketball DNA is somewhat counter the flow is impressive.

Mar 26, 2018 01:26 AM #32

HighEliteMajor said:

@Bosthawk The Silvio decision, and getting him eligible, saved this season. Period.

Newman the best transfer ever? I'm struggling to come up with another name. This is where Self's management is masterful. Think about where we were two months ago? Have to give Malik complete credit two. Buying in when your basketball DNA is somewhat counter the flow is impressive.

Fact. I'm not even sure we beat Clemson without Silvio.

Did you catch the article on Malik's turnaround? It's really something.

Withey was a pretty good transfer.

Mar 26, 2018 01:28 AM #33

@HighEliteMajor

True- newman did look, as you wrote about at length a while back, like a chemistry-killer bent on improving his NBA stock above all else.

He is now our stud scorer in the tourney on top of being a system guy.

Mar 26, 2018 01:32 AM #34

HighEliteMajor said:

This game was won on the defensive end. And defense like this just doesn't happen. Two months ago, who would have believed that this team, in this moment, would win with defense?

The fact that Malik Newman who couldn't stay in front of anyone in the beginning of the season maned up on Allen on the last shot and was in his face the whole time was EPIC!

It really symbolized this team and how they bought in.

Mar 26, 2018 01:34 AM #35

@HighEliteMajor

And a very wise poster told me:

"And guards win in March. Book it."

Mar 26, 2018 01:42 AM #36

HighEliteMajor said:

@Bosthawk The Silvio decision, and getting him eligible, saved this season. Period.

Newman the best transfer ever? I'm struggling to come up with another name. This is where Self's management is masterful. Think about where we were two months ago? Have to give Malik complete credit two. Buying in when your basketball DNA is somewhat counter the flow is impressive.

Only other player I could think of in the neighborhood is Witney because we don't reach the 2012 title game without his rim protection.

Mar 26, 2018 01:43 AM #37

Incredibly insightful article (on the other site) about Malik's mid-season struggles. Certainly affirms and validates the correctness of many comments/reactions/conclusions on this board without the first-hand knowledge of a parent. An excerpt:

“Normally coaches would bend a little bit,” Webster (Malik's father) remembered. “'Malik, you can get 30 (points) for me so I'm going to let you cut the corner.' Coach Self didn't give a damn if he could get 100. He'd say, 'You're going to do it how I want you to do it, when I want you to do it.' And I think that was great for Malik. It taught him that nothing's going to be given to you.”

Mar 26, 2018 01:44 AM #38

@BShark @Texas-Hawk-10 Right, Withey. Good name for Newman to be associated with. I'll look at the Newman write-up.

@BigBad Newman was guarding Allen much of the time, did do an incredible job. Really worked hard. Buying in is truly defined by Newman this season. We'll talk about that for years to come, and compare others to what he did.

@Bosthawk And saying Newman and "system guy" together, what a compliment to him.

@CR107 Now, about 'Nova and their guards -- our guards are better. Wouldn't want another group to ride right now.

Mar 26, 2018 01:45 AM #39

I like Malik, from the beginning, I always knew it.

Mar 26, 2018 01:46 AM #40

@CRH107 The biggest take I got from that article was how much Newman's father totally supported everything Self did. He was certainly not like X Henry's dad.

Mar 26, 2018 01:47 AM #41

@HighEliteMajor Rex Walters, too.

Mar 26, 2018 01:47 AM #42

@HighEliteMajor In case you need the link: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/mar/20/rocky-yet-rewarding-evolution-kus-malik-newman/ ↗

Mar 26, 2018 01:49 AM #43

@BShark I love that story!

Mar 26, 2018 01:52 AM #44

@Crimsonorblue22 You were the lead Malik believer. I can tell you I was really worried there for a while. We desperately needed what you had faith in.

@mayjay Almost forgot about Rex. We live in the world of Self I guess. I still have a soft spot for Kevin Young, because we don’t get to the ‘12 FF without him. Malik’s dad trusting Self was the best gift he could give his son. Career changer.

Mar 26, 2018 01:53 AM #45

@truehawk93 Time for payback

Mar 26, 2018 01:55 AM #46

@JayHawkFanToo lol, guess Wichita State realized when it was time to get out of the Missouri Valley huh lol - -na I'm just kidding but kind of funny they move to a bigger conference - -don't win league - - - - -get knocked out in the 1st round of the tourney - - -and the league they left has a team in the final four is in - -that is KARMA lol

Mar 26, 2018 01:59 AM #47

@mayjay thanks - -now I can REALLY ENJOY

Mar 26, 2018 02:00 AM #48

@jayballer73 Broadcast is at the 13:28 mark of 2nd half with us up 48-47. Hope it ends the same way on replay as it did live!

Mar 26, 2018 02:35 AM #49

@mayjay

Jerrod Haase...

Mar 26, 2018 02:40 AM #50

JayHawkFanToo said:

@mayjay

Jerrod Hasse...

Well, now we are only counting ones who made it to a F4.

Mar 26, 2018 02:48 AM #51

@HighEliteMajor What Silvio has done is beyond remarkable. To go from being in HS 3 months ago to saving our bacon so that he will be in the Final 4 is the stuff of movies. Silvio is living the real hoop dreams. Even with the wild pass 10 feet over Svi's head into the stands. I love everything about the kid. I have never bought a KU jersey, but I think I'm going to spring for a #22. And to seek Dok so happy and hugging him after the buzzer....priceless.

Mar 26, 2018 02:50 AM #52

@Fightsongwriter We all from Africa!

Mar 26, 2018 02:51 AM #53

@BShark It is an interesting and wonderful plot line, no?

Mar 26, 2018 02:55 AM #54

@Fightsongwriter It's fantastic. Crazy to beat Duke when Silvio played more than Doke. I mentioned it before but I do wonder if we were a bit better with Silvio in. Not forcing the ball to Doke, playing in rhythm and Silvio is a better rebounder.

Mar 26, 2018 02:57 AM #55

@mayjay

Rodrick Stewart then?

Mar 26, 2018 02:59 AM #56

@BShark He did not win them all, but Silvio diving, scrapping, clawing, not backing down from ANYONE was big, BIG, huge. He just left it all out there and played so incredibly well for a kid who should be in high school. I may start writing the movie script tonight. Hoop Dreams 2: Coming to America to live the real dream.

Mar 26, 2018 03:00 AM #57

@Fightsongwriter The sequence where they should have called a jump ball about 4 times is what Silvio is all about. Kid fights.

Mar 26, 2018 03:12 AM #58

@JayHawkFanToo Yes! Will always remember him on crutches at the end.

Mar 26, 2018 03:24 AM #59

@JayHawkFanToo It was actually the B10 that beat the other ACC team. Loyola beat Silo Tech.

Mar 26, 2018 03:26 AM #60

@KUSTEVE

You are correct. I still have a hangover from the game. :smiley_cat:

Mar 26, 2018 03:26 AM #61

KU to the Final Four. T Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. Silo Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. WVU ...lost in the Sweet 16. We're the Alpha and the Omega of the B12.

Mar 26, 2018 03:30 AM #62

KUSTEVE said:

KU to the Final Four. T Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. Silo Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. WVU ...lost in the Sweet 16. We're the Alpha and the Omega of the B12.

Well we already knew that. :p

Mar 26, 2018 03:35 AM #63

@KUSTEVE ROUGH year for elpoyo and the FFs instead of winning the conference title crowd. That logic never made a lick of sense, because if the conference is complete crap how on earth is KU going to win a title while not winning the league?

Mar 26, 2018 03:45 AM #64

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I like Malik, from the beginning, I always knew it.

Me too. He had a funk for a while this year; sIck, hurt, hitting the books too hard. But he's not the first one we had to wait a while on to bloom. Thank goodness nobody has hit that wall that has gotten us in some years past. Thank you Hudy. Bonuses should be heading your way shortly.

Mar 26, 2018 04:45 AM #65

But im muh more pleased with the success the overall league had this year compared to years past.

KUSTEVE said:

KU to the Final Four. T Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. Silo Tech ...lost in the Elite 8. WVU ...lost in the Sweet 16. We're the Alpha and the Omega of the B12.

Mar 26, 2018 09:55 AM #66

@HighEliteMajor

As always a terrific post.

The guard dynamic in the Nova game will be interesting. It's POY vs POY (Brunson, Graham). Brunson plays the game differently then any guard we will have faced this year. He backs you down and posts you up. Not easy to defend and you have to have excellent eye coordination and discipline to not bite on the pump fakes.

I expect another fantastic game.. We got the E8 monkey off our back, now its time to get Nova revenge!

Mar 26, 2018 10:23 AM #67

@Bosthawk negative...that would be Bragg. He was a cancer.

Mar 26, 2018 11:41 AM #68

Yes good article about newman- I wonder how many top ranked kids and their parents would want this message. Self puts up with nothing. His way or highway. May be just easier to go to lesser school, play a lot during your one mandatory season, regardless of real improvement, protect the goods, and then declare. It says a lot about Newman and his dad that they both realized buying completely into HOFCBS was the path.
And now Newman is our scoring, defense playing, hustling, passing, rebounding (did I say scoring?) stud. He was arguably my least favorite player this year.. now I am sold. And in awe of him. Jayhawk for life even though he is gone after this year.

Not so with some of our other past raw talent guys who didn’t or couldnt buy in. The Brannon Greene’s etc.

Mar 26, 2018 11:54 AM #69

Coleby and Whitman transferring out left the door open for Silvio. Crazy how the little things can affect things.

Mar 26, 2018 12:06 PM #70

@Blown

True - funny how things can turn out (especially when you have a great coach )

Wonder what’s going thru Colby and Whitman’s head right now.. what they could have been part of and contributed towards especially with the Preston sadness.

Mar 26, 2018 12:18 PM #71

@Blown Coleby, Whitman, and Maxwell.

Mar 26, 2018 12:22 PM #72

BShark said:

@KUSTEVE ROUGH year for elpoyo and the FFs instead of winning the conference title crowd. That logic never made a lick of sense, because if the conference is complete crap how on earth is KU going to win a title while not winning the league?

Made the team realize what fighting to prevail really required.

Any team that thinks they can turn it on later is doomed.

Mar 26, 2018 12:28 PM #73

@Bosthawk I think with Newman he was partially helped by failing at Miss ST. If he first came to KU maybe he flames out here and another school is the redemption story. I think he needed to fail because he had been getting by and winning previously while not playing defense.

Mar 27, 2018 01:56 AM #74

@Blown And what if Preston never would have run into that curb?

Mar 27, 2018 02:58 AM #75

@HighEliteMajor yep. I think about that a lot. Especially when it became evident we were closing in on 14 straight. Bill’s quick trigger on that decision was very wise.

Someday I hope we learn the full
story.

Mar 27, 2018 03:24 AM #76

Bosthawk said:

@Blown

True - funny how things can turn out (especially when you have a great coach )

Wonder what’s going thru Colby and Whitman’s head right now.. what they could have been part of and contributed towards especially with the Preston sadness.

I don't blame Coleby at all for his decision. He was projected as the 3rd big at best behind Doke and Preston. Had he known what was going to happen to the roster, I'm guessing he would've stayed here.

Mar 27, 2018 03:36 AM #77

They probably are thinking "man, that De Sousa kid is legit!"

Mar 27, 2018 12:15 PM #78

Nothing but love for Coleby. Having a great season for WKU. Wishing him luck in the Semis!

Mar 27, 2018 12:41 PM #79

I'd rather have Silvio than Coleby. No knock against Coleby, Silvio is a freak.

Mar 27, 2018 01:41 PM #80

@BShark having both would have been a luxury!

Mar 27, 2018 03:38 PM #81

@BShark If Colby was here Silvio would not reclassify.

Mar 27, 2018 05:56 PM #82

@Barney That's what I was saying.