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I consider myself a realist more than an optimist. Last week's win did pump some life into my interest in KU football. The Rutgers game is yet another chance for our offensive line to show improvement. Maybe, the excitement over Pooka Williams will pump some life into the O-line.

Rutgers is a run first oriented offense and I hope Coach Beaty focuses our offense on the run today. KU must generate more yards on first down. It seems every series is faced with third and long over and over. Why do I have this nagging worry that Beaty and Meacham will rely too much on the pass today? I was able to watch Bender's facial expression and body language during the Nicholls State game; he wasn't leading or playing with any confidence. I hope we rush the ball today and that we find some linemen who will protect Bender so he gains some confidence.

we still seem to want to throw that dam little screen/flare out in the flat. - We need to get that dam thing out of our playbook. not ONCE have I ever seen that produce anything positive. Seems like every time we try and run that - -the Defense is there before we even get the dam pass out to the receiver. - -GET RID of that dam thing. If we can't try and move the ball more vertically then horizonal then something is wrong.

Pooka seems like the real deal , we shall see. I'm going to try and contain myself some and see how he fares against BIG 12 defenses however that all depends on our O-Line they have to be able to create some holes for our backs to run through. We know that it isn't going to be any time before opposition starts keying on Pooka that's when Bender really has to step up and get other players involved. - -Sims needs to step up and be involved.

I'm still saying we DO WIN - we win our 2nd in a row yippee - -I think we can beat Rutgers my score is 27-17. - -O-Line just has to keep improving every game - -one game at a time. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Both teams suck. I still have absolutely no faith in the KU coaching staff so I'd lean towards picking Rutgers. I think it's a toss-up though.

BShark said:

Both teams suck. I still have absolutely no faith in the KU coaching staff so I'd lean towards picking Rutgers. I think it's a toss-up though.

OL BUDDY your always such a sweet bundle of sunshine lmao. - -Oh Ye of little Faith what shall I ever do with you lmao. -- I think coach will do his share of crazy play calling and try to lose this for us - BUT I think the guys will have just enough.

So see come on now - -wouldn't you feel so much better feeling optimistic have that little ray of sunshine in your little pee--picken - -Crimson & Blue heart - -make you all tingly with happiness -- just remember. Breath in - - - Breath out - - - Breath in - - - Breath out - -it's gonna be alright AND - - AND - -AND only 14 days lol - - -come on say it with me ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 And jayballer, if we lose Coach Beaty will remind us in the post-game interview that the sun will come up tomorrow; which is not at all what I want to hear from a coach earning $ 1.7 million this year.

Lots of fun Big 12 games today: TCU with a chance to show it's legit against The Ohio St. Oklahoma St can post a good win for the Big 12 by beating higher rated Boise St. And Texas has a chance to bounce back with its home game against Southern Cal. Heck, I'll even look in on the Okla game against Iowa St during breaks in the KU game.

Offense plan: Pooka right, Pooka left, Pooka middle, Pooka here, Pooka there, Pooka everywhere.

Defense plan: Dineen right, Dineen left, Dineen middle, Dineen here, Dineen there, Dineen everywhere.

First possession 3rd and ten and we call a time out. WTF

Man I thought pooka was gone there

That incomplete pass by Bender was a good decision. It's also nice to have a reliable kicker with good range.

Any clue how to watch this trainwreck of a game?

@wissox FSN

My future father-in-law went to Rutgers, so we have a little friendly bet going on. Nice to have something making this a little more interesting today.

No, I live in big 10 country and they're showing penn st./Haskell indian college or something like that.

Weird penalty against our defense. "Not ready to play." Huh?

PICK SIX !!!!

When did Clint Bowen learn how to coach against anybody?

@wissox I bet you could stream it.

@wissox Fox Sports Go should have it and it's free as far as I know.

What he said ^^^^^

Nice start Jayhawks. Keep it going.

ESPN's Scott Van Pelt has a running joke about picking Rutgers against the spread, and always losing.
This week he said he's done with picking them.
Good call, Scott!

KU actually looks competent so far today.

I like what the D has going on. When Dineen tackles everything, you can play the pass a little more. If we want to win games, it's going to be from the D making big plays and creating turnovers.

Fun day

Torneden having himself a game today!

Ok just run the ball here and get points no matter what.

@Kcmatt7 Need a TD to demoralize Rutgers.

Have to hit that throw!

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That's Bender's biggest weakness, lack of touch on his passes.

Holy shit

There's the Kansas we all know

Well, that was an offensive series from hell...two overthrows, a blocked FG, and a score for them.

This game is an insult to dumpster fires. @jayballer73 is this too negative? I'd say not. ;) :p

How go from what should be 17-0 to 10-7, wow 2 shit passes by Bender

The poor special teams absolutely drives me crazy for a team that sucks. You can control that. And if you ever want to win against even a mediocre team, you can't have mistakes like that.

Hawaii Army is a fun game so far.

Our offensive scheme is garbage. Few motions. No Jets. No misdirection.

It's a disgrace to the spread offense.

Clemson is SCORELESS with GEORGIA SOUTHERN after 1 quarter.

@BShark missed a field goal. Bet they still cover the spread.

Two motions, two first downs.

Kcmatt7 said:

Our offensive scheme is garbage. Few motions. No Jets. No misdirection.

It's a disgrace to the spread offense.

That's the thing some people aren't getting, I feel. If it was clear the team executed crisply and just got their asses kicked physically I would feel much better about this coaching staff.

POOKA

I like that formation with Kendrick in the inverted wishbone. Lots of options with him in that formation.

@BShark Couldn't say it better myself.

BShark said:

Clemson is SCORELESS with GEORGIA SOUTHERN after 1 quarter.

Made more hilarious by total yards

Clemson 144

GS 12

Finally got that corner pass. We probably need to work on that.

That's how you throw a fade route

Poor Nebraska having to play a walk on at QB after their starter got hurt last week from a dirty Colorado player twisting his knee after being down. Was one of the dirtiest plays I've seen in awhile.

Much better. Bender finally found his man.

Booker did a great job positioning himself there to allow only himself to catch the pass or force a pass interference.

Nice to get the mo back, Kendrick’s first pass was crap as well.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

That's how you throw a fade route

I hate the fade, but the execution there was good.

Kendrick should play. Bender doesn't throw it well enough to justify him starting. Kendrick gives this offense another dimension.

Except for the blocked punt, KU is outplaying Rutgers on offense and defense, esp. defense

Kcmatt7 said:

Poor Nebraska having to play a walk on at QB after their starter got hurt last week from a dirty Colorado player twisting his knee after being down. Was one of the dirtiest plays I've seen in awhile.

Nebraska can pound sand. That said it is a tough break for them. Also the guy that would have been their back-up transferred out. It's so hard to keep a good back-up QB these days because they will want to go somewhere to try and start.

@kjayhawks Kendrick's first pass was good. Kerr Johson looked over the wrong shoulder. Had he turned over his outside shoulder instead of his inside one, he catches it. That was on Johnson, not Kendrick.

stoptheflop said:

Except for the blocked punt, KU is outplaying Rutgers on offense and defense, esp. defense

Yeah, KU looks like the better team. I am eating my words about this team being winless big time.

@BShark I just hate to see a team get screwed by a dirty play.

@BShark When you have tall receivers like Booker, the fade is a good play because the receiver has the height advantage to jump over a DB.

3 turnovers in the first quarter, nice!

@Kcmatt7 Yeah, it was very nasty. Player should have been suspended for it.

TD TROY. YESSS

Careful, Pooka! You're not Edwin Moses.

Pooka's knee caused that fumble. That was impressive ups by Pooka though.

Damn, going backwards.

Facemask

Missed the facemask ref

I love the backside midline read in CFB. More of that. It'll pop.

@jayballer73 You wonder why people always get in fights with you. I ignored a totally snide comment of yours directed at me several weeks ago.

This friggin Pooka guy. So good even though he didn't score on that last run. I stand by what I said about him being a high level SEC level RB if he wasn't such a high academic risk.

LOL SPECIAL TEAMS.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Nice to have the TO's, but the offense isn't capitalizing on them. We should have 31 points.

Holder botched that one.

wissox said:

No, I live in big 10 country and they're showing penn st./Haskell indian college or something like that.

I think it's completely regional I'm afraid.

Brutal. Special teams line can't block worth a damn, bad snap or not.

stoptheflop said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Nice to have the TO's, but the offense isn't capitalizing on them. We should have 31 points.

We should certainly 100% have 6 more points right now, lol.

I’d be happy with this lead if we didn’t leave 14 on the field, you let these guys hang around, it will bite you.

Kcmatt7 said:

Kendrick should play. Bender doesn't throw it well enough to justify him starting. Kendrick gives this offense another dimension.

Trying to upvote this more than once.

@Texas-Hawk-10 My Fox Sports Go shows 5 games, but not ours. It does show a replay at 8pm tonight. I'm a bit confused!

@stoptheflop That's the difference between good teams and teams like Kansas. We weren't creating turnovers last year though so I'll take just creating turnovers for now. The next step is to get more points off of those turnovers.

@wissox I'm getting the same result! Frustrating. Have to pirate it.

ANOTHER PICK. MIKE LEE TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!

Hot take: this Rutgers QB isn't very good.

Just found the game, but it comes with a note that it's not available where I'm at. Crap. I see we're winning.

BShark said:

Hot take: this Rutgers QB isn't very good.

He's a true freshman, but he's also why this was considered a winnable game for KU.

WOW! PLAY OF THE DAY!

Mike Lee with the terrific return after the interception. That way the offense doesn't get a chance to blow it.

Has a defense ever outscored an offense for an entire season?

ISU putting up a fight against OU.

Iowa St showing up at home to make it interesting. IState 10 Ok 10 Second Q

When the defense has more points than offense 😂😂

Clint Bowen has looked like a good coach the past 2 games. Where has this been the past 6 years?

Could this be Clint Bowen's audition for the head coaching job?

@nwhawkfan I love that Bowen is a loyal Jayhawk, but I don't want him as a head coach.

nwhawkfan said:

Could this be Clint Bowen's audition for the head coaching job?

....s. rw4,.tr24tn 24tg

head explodes

I hope not!

Kcmatt7 said:

ISU putting up a fight against OU.

OU driving.

I never understand why teams take timeouts to avoid a 5 yard penalty on a punt

Or how you can get to the point where you can get a delay of game on a punt for that matter lol.

Kcmatt7 said:

I never understand why teams take timeouts to avoid a 5 yard penalty on a punt

The same reason some NFL coaches don't take their timeouts defensively on the front side of the two minute warning.

Just think, this game could very easily be 38-0 right now.

Losing yards on a completed pass...

Nebraska down 17-0 to Troy...

Bender is back in and the offense stalls the first two plays. Why not just play Kendrick the rest of the half?

@BShark Neal Brown is about to get PAID.

@Kcmatt7 Yeah he really turned them around.

@Kcmatt7 Texas Tech is going to have their choice between Brown and Littrell.

@Texas-Hawk-10 As long as we can get who they don't want.

@Kcmatt7 Littrell isn't coming to Kansas. If Tech goes with Brown, Littrell would likely be a top choice at North Carolina which may come available if Fedora doesn't right that ship this year.

wissox said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 My Fox Sports Go shows 5 games, but not ours. It does show a replay at 8pm tonight. I'm a bit confused!

It is on Fox Sports Midwest.

I forgot how much fun KU football can be when the defense plays light out and the offense is at least competent. RCJH

If he can put that in front of him that might go the distance.

@Kcmatt7 Yeah, Bender's passes just aren't on the mark today. He's missing way more than he's making.

I believe that the reason Jeff Long hired Mike Vollmar was Vollmar's connection to Les Miles. That's who I believe will be the next coach at KU. Miles isn't going to get an offer from a top program at this point, but he's a young 65 and could probably go 10 more years if he really wanted to. Les Miles has done a rebuild in the Big 12 and still has enough connections that he could put together a really strong staff. He's also done enough that I would trust him to pick his own coach in waiting when the time is right.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I do think that could be a Homerun Hire.

@stoptheflop Bender has no touch on his passes and that's his biggest weakness at QB. Kendrick showed good touch on his fade passes and it's just a matter of time until Kendrick takes over the job.

This looks like the normal Bowen defense.

This game isn't over.

Kcmatt7 said:

This game isn't over.

Which is insane.

@Kcmatt7 Holding them to FG would be huge.

WOW, the defense really looked bad on that drive.

Lol offensive coordinators.... They just ran the ball down our throats. 1st and goal? Pass.

Lol watch this go into halftime 21-24

Kcmatt7 said:

Lol watch this go into halftime 21-24

ALTERNATIVELY TOUCHDOWN KU

Wow, that was surprise...

This game is just absurd.

This game is just absurd.

Is it too late to pick the Over on this game?

Kcmatt7 said:

This game is just absurd.

It's unhinged.

Pooka is gonna help Dom and Herbert all year long. Once they start incorporating the option with Kendrick and Pooka, the KU run game is going to be really good.

@BShark Look at you BShark. Coming around to fully support these guys. Way to go, Jayhawks.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yep. That TD happened because Rutgers is terrified of Pooka. Pooka warps the field.

Looks like a quite a bit bigger crowd than two weeks ago. Might actually be close to 20,000 in the stands today.

The defense must hold these guys out on this possession. HOLD THESE B's.

LOL RUTGERS

Kendrick needs to be the guy. We are NEVER going to win a game with our passing game. But we might have a chance if we can control the tempo with the run game.

I thought the whole point of FSU hiring Willie Taggart was so he could get the offense going... But boy do they suck

JayHawkFanToo said:

wissox said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 My Fox Sports Go shows 5 games, but not ours. It does show a replay at 8pm tonight. I'm a bit confused!

It is on Fox Sports Midwest.

Thanks, but unfortunately, not here where I live.

The direct handoff completely defeats the purpose of having Kendrick at QB. If you want to run a "stretch" than run the inverted veer.

When is the last time KU scored 31 points in one half? Could have been more if not for the blocked FGs but could have been a lot less without the 2 interceptions returned for TDs.

A 17=point halftime lead, and at least two highlight reel plays.
I'll take it, but I still feel like we still could easily blow this game.

JayHawkFanToo said:

When is the last time KU scored 31 points in one half?

Reesing was the QB.

Idk if I’m happy or disappointed with this 17 point lead, I guess In the end it’s nice to not only be leading but know that you could’ve played quite a bit better.

Except for the late 2nd Q drive, this is the best I've seen the KU defense play in the last 10 years. The second half is going to be interesting. I know it's hot on the field, so we'll see how deep our team is.

@BShark What about the Colorado game KU made the huge comeback against under Gill?

@kjayhawks I'm happy we have the lead, but it could easily be 45-7 now and the game would be over.

The way Scot Frost wears his hat pisses me off lol

wow.....KU scoring 31 in a half against any Div 1 opponent is progress...

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@BShark What about the Colorado game KU made the huge comeback against under Gill?

I was thinking first half only but I see it says "one half" now.

In the game you are talking about KU actually scored 35 points in the 4th quarter.

Maryland getting throttled by Temple right now... But they beat UT. Really makes me wonder how bad UT might be this season.

UT might actually be a winnable game this season.

I think we need to seriously start talking of naming children Pooka. If he keeps it up, I might have to drop a bug in my daughter's ear.

I'll feel much better about this game if KU scores a TD on this opening drive.

KU on offense to start the second half. We've got to get this W.

Kcmatt7 said:

Maryland getting throttled by Temple right now... But they beat UT. Really makes me wonder how bad UT might be this season.

TERRIBLE.

Also good, MD can suck eggs.

I like seeing Kendrick to start this half.

Schadler has to catch that one.

Nice run by Kendrick

Wasted TO.

Pooka was a shoe string tackle away from breaking a big one or at least get a first down.

Why take the timeout there? Back it up 5 and give the punter more room.

Dunno about that timeout. Seems to me they could take the 5-yard penalty and still punt.

@Texas-Hawk-10 We want to make sure we don't have any timeouts for when we implode

@Kcmatt7 You sound like BShark now, stop that!

The DBs here look solid with another pick. KU outclassing Rutgers here. Looking for the kill shot here.

Co Harris! First of many picks for Co!

Anyone shocked they haven’t benched the QB

This is unbelievable how bad their QB is.

I love how they have abandoned the run game for no apparent reason.

We know one thing Pooka can't do now. Don't let Pooka throw again

Triple Threat Pooka --- He runs, he hurdles, he...passes?

Ah, perfect time for a stupid trick play. Beaty just hates playing with a lead I think.

@nwhawkfan No more passes from Pooka.

That was a stupid play calll

Now I feel better.

Well finally we have a QB. Even Beaty can't fail to see Kendrick is the man.

I have less faith in the staff knowing that they even considered starting Bender over Kendrick

That's why the inverted wishbone is a great formation with a running QB. 4 guys could end up the ball.

Kendrick and Williams are the future of this offense and I’m excited about especially if we get a good coach

Tennessee is confirming how bad they are again this week. Only up 17-0 on UTEP (maybe the worst FBS team, seriously). They are going to get murdered every week in the SEC.

Nebraska is fighting back against Troy but they aren't going anywhere with this walk-on QB.

How about Georgia Southern putting up as good of a fight as they could have hoped for against Clemson

Good lord Rutgers.

And Christmas comes early to Lawrence.

@BShark First one KU didn't cause today either.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I was very impressed with Harris's INT. That is a DUDE. KU has about 6 or so DUDES. One of them we have to hope it okay though (D. Wise).

Joe is playing at an all American level

MOOD

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@BShark Lack of talent has never been the issue for the defense.

Still not getting enough points out of these TO's. Time to get some of the reserves in in the 4th Q to work on depth.

Syracuse is beating FSU 20-0!!!

This is the trouble with Kendrick will throw numerous picks with plays like that against B12 teams.

@stoptheflop Baby steps. KU wasn't even forcing turnovers last year. This is progress for the defense.

KU will win this game going away but let’s not kid ourselves, Rutgers is a really bad team so I am not sure we can read much from this win...at least not yet.

@kjayhawks Thise types of throws are why Bender was the starter. He does protect the ball decently well.

JayHawkFanToo said:

KU will win this game going away but let’s not kid ourselves, Rutgers is a really bad team so I am not sure we can read much from this win...at least not yet.

Agree. Too early to tell. KU could be able to compete with Texas, Baylor and KSU from what I've seen but I wouldn't pick KU to win any of those games.

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@Texas-Hawk-10 yep that’s the shocking part we have 1 TO thus far. But I like letting Kendrick play and seeing what he can do.

If we can get the run game to be respectable, this team will win a conference game.

@JayHawkFanToo We're better than last year. That's what we can take from this game. Whether that translates to any Big 12 wins or not is another issue, but this team is better than last year.

So if Pooka could have played week one and this team was 3-0 wow imagine the outlook...

@BShark I think they may have won week 1 with Kendrick starting.

@BShark That would be crazy....imagine a 3-9 season...wow, that would be worth a parade considering the last two years.

I’m just gonna be honest, I thought CMU and Rutgers were winnable games for sure but never thought we’d spank ether team.

KUSTEVE said:

@BShark That would be crazy....imagine a 3-9 season...wow, that would be worth a parade considering the last two years.

So I mean...I wouldn't argue for it but with a 3-0 start bowl eligibility would be in play if they won all their winnable games.

@KUSTEVE I literally laughed out loud

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKA

Troy scored again. 24-13 over Nebraska woof.

That’s my deal if we was 3-0 I’d say we can get to a bowl, without beating Nichols idk

@Texas-Hawk-10 This game has identified our best QB, Kendrick, is getting the running game going and has been a great defensive effort. Win, Win and Win. RCJH

Nebraska wins that game going away with their Starter healthy

Game Plan 2018 ---- GITP

(Give It To Pooka) !

Iowa State trying to keep the B12 out of the Playoffs

@BShark It's still in play if KU could win all their winnable games. Baylor, Tech, KSU, and Texas are all winnable games on paper right now.

Pooka shouldn’t go back in at this point

You almost have to keep Beaty if he makes it to a bowl right?

Maryland got smashed by a bad Temple team lol

@Kcmatt7 No almost about it, if KU makes a bowl game this year, David Beaty is coaching Kansas in 2019 and will have earned that right.

@Kcmatt7 no question he stays with a bowl

@Texas-Hawk-10 We still have to clean up the mistakes if we expect a win over Baylor, or any other B12 team for that matter. Big step up in class.

How did OSU only beat this team by 49, we should be up 63-7

If you're the KU coach, Pooka's on the bench now right? Carter Stanley ought to finish this out.

@nwhawkfan It's not unrealistic at this point though. Those are also bad teams and if KU's defense can keep creating turnovers, they'll have chances to win those games. 6 per game doesn't seem realistic, but 2 or 3 against those offenses isn't unrealistic either though.

What's the score?

@kjayhawks OSU didn't play their hardest. OSU could've dropped 80+ if they left their first string all game.

kjayhawks said:

Pooka shouldn’t go back in at this point

Yep.

Doesn't help Badgers SOS having Nebraska losing to Troy.
We need them to be a strong team.

@wissox 48-14, 12:38 to go

@wissox If Wisconsin goes undefeated they are in the playoffs.

kjayhawks said:

How did OSU only beat this team by 49, we should be up 63-7

They put it on complete cruise control after their first drive in the 2nd half. They also played their back-up QB from that point on.

@BShark None of the starters should go back in at this point.

I’d be happy if we complete in the B12 personally I think there are 3 or 4 teams we should be able to do that against. Not saying we can win 4 but who knows, one game at a time guys.

Can't remember the last time we had a laugher against a D1 team, even a bad one. Anybody know?

@nwhawkfan 2008 against KSU.

Think of how bad Texas state must be lol.

@kjayhawks It's probably between them and UTEP for worst team in the FBS.

@Texas-Hawk-10

No question that Pooka gives KU something it did not have and that is an improvement and 2 wins are better than 1 but the wins have been against really bad teams.

lol

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@kjayhawks It's probably between them and UTEP for worst team in the FBS.

What a game that would be.

@JayHawkFanToo The difference between this year and previous years though is these wins against bad teams have been blow outs where the defense has been very good and creating turnovers. In the past, these wins against bad teams have close wins.

Our fans' arms must be getting tired from waving all that wheat !

We may have the best group of RBs that Kansas has ever had friends

Even using a back up kicker on PAT's lol!

@Texas-Hawk-10 I feel for Rui I don’t think those blocks were on him.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Put in Rudy! (Oops, wrong show...)

@kjayhawks I'm not going that far when you have a pair of hall of famers and a Super Bowl MVP in the past, but this is a good group of backs though.

@kjayhawks Neither of them were. The first one was the line's fault and the second one was the holder.

Watch Nebraska score and then get a pick six for a bad beat lol

@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m saying as a group not individuals

@kjayhawks I think they are just giving the Sophmore kicker some game time.

We have dropped 2 sure pick 6s, Rutgers you suck lol

@kjayhawks When Gale Sayers and John Riggins are apart of a group, those groups are automatically at the top of a list.

Bad day for the Big 10.

@JayHawkFanToo Hope it continues tonight with OSU and TCU.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@JayHawkFanToo Hope it continues tonight with OSU and TCU.

Yep. Me too.

@Kcmatt7 I know, I'm just kind of pissed at the Big10 for letting so many teams in the conference and then putting the Badgers in the crappy side of the conference. We normally have a relatively boring slate of big10 games.

@Texas-Hawk-10 agreed I’m saying a group that played at the same time man, best GROUP of running backs on a KU team. Riggins and Sayers weren’t on the same team.

Baylor kicks off soon vs. Duke over on FS1

@kjayhawks I know they weren't on the same team. I'm saying those two were so good that it didn't matter who else was in the backfield with them. The Sayers teams would #1 and the Riggins teams would be #2.

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lmao

This was starting to look like one of those high school games with a "mercy rule" where they just let the clock run. lol

When was the last time you heard the Rock Chalk chant inside Memorial Stadium?

That was a legitimate ass whoopin KU put on Rutgers today! This team will pull an upset or two in Big 12 play this year.

Would love to see a post-game interview after a win in front of a full Memorial Stadium. Baby steps, though...

Good chat guys. I'm off on vacation next week at Glacier Park in Montana...hope I can get updates on the Baylor game.

Till then, Rock Chalk !

@nwhawkfan sounds wonderful, enjoy!

I was waiting to see how KU looked today before deciding on whether or not to go the Baylor game next week. I think I'll be buying a ticket and making the drive up to Waco next Saturday.

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@BShark #dead lmao!!!

@Texas-Hawk-10 Have a great time!

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Whoever runs that account is on fire right now.

Reesing bringing us the good mojo today! Love his jump and pump, mizzoui win repeat!

Hope he stays out of trouble!

400 yards rushing at 8.3 yards for carry, 7 guys averaged more than 4.3 YPC, that’ll do.

KU scored double digit points in every quarter today. Probably first time in at least a decade for that.

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Good luck after a B12 win lol

Convincing win, but Beaty isn't out of the woods yet. If he were 3-0, his job would be much safer. That bad loss will continue to haunt him this year.

@justanotherfan that’s my deal, as happy as I am today it’s even more evident that Nicholls shouldn’t have beat us. Tulane spanked them last week.

@kjayhawks Nicholls is legitimately the best of KU's non conference opponents and that was something people were saying even before the season started.

@Texas-Hawk-10 - And don’t forget, Pooka was out. Probably a different game with him playing?

@Gorilla72 yes! I hope he continues to play!

Baylor and KSU are not good at the football.

@BShark Baylor playing now? What channel?

@Crimsonorblue22 FSN

@Crimsonorblue22 getting it put to them by Duke's backup QB

Off to the Kansas state fair, proudly wearing my KU fb tshirt. New Charlie hustle one, pretty nice. 💙❤️🌾🏉👊

Dang if we beat faylor, do we keep Beaty?

Lol the Over/Under for the Houston and TTU game was only 68

Baylor doesn’t look good at all, so maybe we have a chance lol

@Crimsonorblue22 It'll help his chances, but doesn't guarantee anything.

The Rutgers box score makes for some fun reading. How about Deron Thompson's second half effort: 3 rushes, 70 yds. and 1 TD. Nice. Very Nice. 400 yds. rushing as a team. Six running backs and 3 QBs carrying the rock.

@BShark Which is why those are winnable games. I'd feel much better about the Baylor, Tech, and KSU games if any of them were in Lawrence, but the win at Central Michigan finally got the monkey off the back of the program and those road games aren't automatic losses now.

Passing 15/25 for 144 yds. and 1 TD. I think the Air Raid offense has left the stadium.

@wissox RUH ROH

The official attendance was just over 28,000 people. I’m actually surprised more folks didn’t come for Ressing alone. I had free tickets available just couldn’t make the trip today. I figured it was over 30,000 watching the game. Keep competing and those numbers will continue to rise.

kjayhawks said:

Baylor doesn’t look good at all, so maybe we have a chance lol

I think we have a shot - -just have to contain their receivers , I don't feel their QB'S are quite as well as in the past

So does Ash get fired Monday morning? Lol

@kjayhawks This article, courtesy of a poster on another board, tells why he won't...though the article makes it clear why he should be, at least according to them:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2018/09/rutgers-kansas_politis_5_observations.html ↗

(pretty poor picture showing attendance near the end of the article)

@ICThawk Hard to argue any of that, they are in an very similar situation we were going into last year.

Rutgers is this season’s version of last year’s Kansas.:smile:

@JayHawkFanToo No they're not, Rutgers has won a game this season. Other than that, they're bad.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Kansas won 1 game last year

I want to believe KU is a bit better, but I need to see it in league play tbh. CMU and Rutgers are both extremely bad with terrible QB play.

@BShark The only team KU held under 30 points last year was SEMO. KU has yet to allow a team to reach 30 points. I'm not claiming this team is good, but they are a better team than last year, even if it's just by a little bit. If you can't see that now, I don't think anything KU does in B12 play will change you opinion either.

@JayHawkFanToo Last time Kansas won and Wisconsin lost on the same day? I just might look that up!

Last time KU won and Wisconsin lost on the same day was 2009. 5-0 KU beat ISU, alas, it was their last win of the year, an awful 0-7 finish. Wiscy went to the horseshoe and got beat soundly on Oct. 10 of that year. So this is an odd sort of day for sure.

@Texas-Hawk-10 The biggest difference I see this year is the defense is everywhere and playing hard. TO's are weird; how could the Rutgers freshman QB just throw it straight to Torneden and Lee. The fumbles were caused by our defense. We've really turned the corner on defense.

The second difference is the running backs are running much harder; after first contact they are keeping it going. Last year, the backs seemed to go down every time on first contact. Baylor is very beatable, but we have to keep running the ball hard. Our QB play is still very weak. We've got to complete more mid-range passes. How great would a Big 12 road victory be for our program? It'll take our best effort yet and Pooka will be no surprise to Baylor.

@stoptheflop no credit to O line?

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@stoptheflop no credit to O line?

O-Line like Coach said is starting to get to know, one another more starting to come together - -still got along ways to go. - -NOW the real test begins - -testing their improvement , a big difference between non conference foe's and Big 12 defense's . - -Their getting better , the question yet to be seen - -just HOW much better.

Our running backs -- hope they are better cause the gonna have to be able to open those holes for the backs. - Got to be able to protect the QB - although our QB's have to step it up. - These Big 12 defense's are going to load the box and force KU to throw the ball down the field - if our QB'S can't do that - -then were screwed - -Again. these little flares not going to cut it against Big 12 Competition we are going to have to be able to score.

We also will find out exactly if the defense has really improved - -These teams aren't going to turn it over as much Defense going to be on the filed longer. - I think they too have improved - just how much? -Still not getting much pressure on the opposing QB - -2 sacks total in three games? - -That's not going to cut it these better QB'S going to eat our secondary alive if we can't get pressure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

This KU team is certainly better than the last couple of versions, but that was expected. The big question is if the progress is enough. A 1-8 or 2-7 run through the Big 12 probably still gets Beaty fired unless KU is competitive in every game. More likely, KU will need 3 or 4 conference wins to preserve Beaty's job because that's some real progress you can point to.

We are still waiting to see real progress. If Beaty can get 3 or 4 more wins, I count that as enough to keep his job. 2 puts me on the fence, and 1 I think a change has to be made.

@justanotherfan

The question is which would be the conference wins? Baylor is certainly a possibility but beyond that I just don't see it.

• At Baylor - decent chance
• OSU - No
• At WVU - No
• At TTU - Remote chance but doubtful KU wins at their home and their high power offense might be a bit too much.
• TCU - No
• ISU - Maybe but after it just gave OU a tough game likely No
• At KSU - Maybe, just maybe but doubtful KSU loses to KU at home
• At OU - No
• Texas - No. UT is getting a lot better and it dominated USC

Best possible scenario is 4 wins but most likely is just one win...maybe two if everything falls in place.

One surprise upset (OU/OSU/WVU/TCU/Texas) combined with at least one more reachable victory (Baylor/KSU/TT/ISU) would be enough for me to believe they have improved significantly (assuming they are competitive in the other games).

@bskeet The last 2 weeks have been big surprise upsets to me, but my definition might be a lot looser than most when it comes to KU.....

@JayHawkFanToo I'm going to disagree on your assessment of KU's chances against OSU, TCU, and Texas. I'm not saying I think KU wins any of those games, but go look at recent history.

OSU has a habit of playing very flat, uninspired football in Lawrence and has had scares in recent years in Lawrence. Don't be surprised if this game is closer than many expect.

Same deal with TCU. Last year was the first time TCU really dominated KU like many believe they should every year. Prior to last season, that game was always close.

With Texas, I really think KU's chances depend on UT's situation entering that game. They looked good against USC after the first quarter, but this is the same team lost to a below average Maryland team, and played a pretty ugly game against Tulsa. I think this game is really going to depend on which Texas team shows up on Lawrence.

All 3 of these games being in Lawrence make them trap games for those 3 teams and all 3 have a habit of not playing well in Lawrence in recent times. Like I said, I'm not specifically calling for an upset of any of those 3, but given those teams recent history in Lawrence, it's not a huge reach to picture KU upsetting any of those 3 teams to me.

The other team I don't fully agree with is Texas Tech. They absolutely have a great offense this year, there's no debating that one to me. Where I think this game to give KU a shot is Tech's defense is still pretty bad. If KU gets into a shootout with Tech, who knows what could happen with KU's defense that suddenly knows how to create turnovers.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Recent history would have a bearing if the exact same teams would be playing but all teams are very different than there were one, two or three years ago..

OSU dominated a very good BSU team, no way KU wins that one. TCU gave #4 Ohio State a very tough game and had a chance to actually win before OSU pulled away in the second half and it was only a 12 point loss. Texas has the talent and it is starting to put it all together; I just don't see KU winning this one either, maybe after the Maryland and Tulsa games but after watching watching how well they played against #22 USC I have very little hope for a win. Tech has just too much offense and playing at home will not lose to KU. OSU and TCU are currently ranked #15 and #17 and wins over them would be huge upsets and unlikely to happen.

Does KU have a chance to win more than one game? Of course it does but realistically anything over a one conference win would be a surprise to me, a very nice surprise but a surprise nonetheless.

I think they beat Baylor, then lose their next 8. 3-9...not too shabby!

@JayHawkFanToo

My view is this - 4-8 would have been good enough if you go 3-0 in non-con, plus beat Baylor and stay competitive against the middle tier Big 12 teams.

Losing to Nicholls State changed the calculation. KU can't lose those kinds of games and still claim they are making progress under Beaty. That's what put pressure on Beaty - he had a bad loss.

So now, the calculation is this:

Beat Baylor.

Win at least one "toss up" game (Iowa State, KSU, Tech, Texas)

Win a game against the upper tier (TCU, OU, WVU, OSU)

--or--

Beat Baylor

Win two "toss up" games, including one road win.

He has to make up for that bad loss with a surprise win either against KSU or Tech on the road (in addition to beating ISU or Texas in Lawrence) or OSU or TCU in Lawrence. Either of those gives Beaty the ammunition to argue that he is making progress with multiple road conference wins (since Baylor game is also on the road) or beating a ranked opponent.

Failing that, I think he still probably gets fired at the end of the season because beating two really awful teams doesn't prove KU isn't awful anymore.

The only way I change that stance is if KU can stay within 14 points in every game this year. If KU is competitive against everyone in conference and gets only one or two conference wins, Beaty can argue that he's a year away, but if he gets blasted by the ranked teams and loses to the middle tier as well, there's not much progress that fans can see.

@justanotherfan

The part where we diverge is on what you call the "toss up" games. The only game I would consider a toss up is Baylor all the games you call toss up I would say KU has a chance of winning but ar not at all toss ups which to me means either team can win and I don't believe this to be the case.

CMU and Rutgers are really bad teams and we cannot draw much from those two game, the loss to Nichols State provides more insight but Pooka did not play and he seems to be the key piece of the offense now. We will know more after the Baylor game.

@JayHawkFanToo

I'm speaking more from a progress perspective.

You can't just keep being the worst team in the conference and call that progress. You have to be better than Baylor. If KU isn't good enough to beat Baylor, Beaty gets fired. Period.

You also can't just keep being a bottom two team in the conference because that worst team is going to fire their coach. You have to beat one of those teams that is holding out some bowl aspirations, but probably won't be ranked. That's that next tier of games. And you need to win at least one or two of those games at your place, and maybe be able to steal one on the road. That's progress.

If you can't do that, you're done. Period.

I get that KU isn't necessarily better than any of those teams. The hangup is that Beaty needs to demonstrate some sort of progress, otherwise what has the last couple of years been for?

@justanotherfan

Realistically, The one chance KU has of of winning a conference games is against Baylor and the Vegas line now has Baylor favored at -7.5. KU will be an even bigger underdog the rest of the way. A win against Baylor might change things some but a loss would be pretty bad and likely the end of Beaty's tenure.

Blowing out a bad Rutgers team still felt good. The bottom of the Big12 (not counting KU) has been decent and most of the teams have been quite good.

In the final 2017 ranking (Athlon Sports & Life), KUs Big12 opponents were ranked: 4) OU, 11) TCU, 16) OkSt, 30) Iowa State, 36) Texas, 41) K-State, 46) WVU, 64) TTU, 102) Baylor. I don't know anything about Athlon, it was just easy to find on Google. I'm assuming other rankings won't be wildly off from this.

My point is, I would be surprised if we've played any conference opponent outside of the top 120 the last 5 years. Last year there were 7 teams in the top 50. That means to get 2 wins in conference, you have to be a top 60ish team. My guess is that KU has not been a top 100 team in the past 8-9 years. We could be top 75 and still get only 1 conference wins given the strength of the conference.

The year that KU gets 2 wins in the Big 12, the conference will appear "weak" and all teams will be punished in the rankings.

@JayHawkFanToo All of those teams have a long history of coming into Lawrence and playing flat whether it was Gill, Weis, Bowen or Beaty. It's the 11am kickoffs with 10,000 people in the stands that suck the energy out of those teams and have them vulnerable to an upset multiple times against multiple KU coaches. It's not a one time only deal.

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU is listed as a 7.5 point underdog to Baylor, arguably the worst team in the conference not named KU...and the game is in Lawrence. Do you really believe KU wins 3, 4 or 5 conference games? I really wish it would but I just don't believe it will.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU is listed as a 7.5 point underdog to Baylor, arguably the worst team in the conference not named KU...and the game is in Lawrence. Do you really believe KU wins 3, 4 or 5 conference games? I really wish it would but I just don't believe it will.

No your wrong , the game is at Baylor not in Lawrence. - -7.5 underdog? - well it's getting better it was at 9.5. - There are a lot of Baylor fans that think they are in trouble with us Saturday. - I'm like you though I don't see us winning many conference - -Baylor maybe , who else? - - K-State? - - maybe very little bit but maybe. - -Texas Tech? - -no way -- Iowa State probably not - wish we would and who knows we might sneak a 2nd somewhere. We are getting better have to crawl before we can walk - -Conference is here - now we will see. You can take this to the bank , bet the farm these teams gonna start loading the box making us prove we can throw the ball with some consistency - -throw down field and have success watch and see - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73

Thanks for the assist, the game is indeed at Baylor.

FWIW, the opening line is what Vegas thinks is the most likely outcome and both sides will bet evenly based on that number. Once bets start coming in, the line changes, not because one team is now suddenly better or worse than the other (unless an injury is reported) but it is done so both side will bet equally and the house is guaranteed to make money on the vig.

@JayHawkFanToo Go back and read what I said near the very beginning of my initial response to you about how many of those games I said KU would win.

@Texas-Hawk-10

I have more than one poster replying to my posts so I must have missed something.

I said KU at most wins one game (Baylor) and you said you disagree with my assessment but then you say you don't think KU wins any of those games either? Don't we actually agree?

I will be very impressed if KU beats Baylor.

@JayHawkFanToo I disagreed with you writing those three specific games off as losses because there's enough history of OSU, TCU, and Texas coming into Lawrence and those games being much closer than anyone would have predicted.

If those three teams play their A games against KU, then yes, they will blow KU out. There's enough history though that makes me think at least one of those teams will show up flat against KU and KU could pull an upset that way.

If KU is going to pull an upset this year, it'll probably be against one of those 3 teams this year.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Fair enough but those would be huge upsets since OSU and TCU are top 20 teams and Texas is now #33 and climbing. The passing game better pick up because conference defenses are going to get ready to stop the run. We will have a better idea after the Baylor game.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Fair enough but those would be huge upsets since OSU and TCU are top 20 teams and Texas is now #33 and climbing. The passing game better pick up because conference defenses are going to get ready to stop the run. We will have a better idea after the Baylor game.

Agreed. - -this is what I have said. - -The Big 12 defenses are going to make us prove we are capable of throwing the ball - -stack the box. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I agree with @justanotherfan, Baylor is a must win on all fronts if Beaty wants to stay. I wouldn’t put as big as an emphasis on this game if we would’ve d beat Nicholls. That game still ticks me off and here’s the sad part they have gotten beat by twice by double digits since winning in Lawrence. They ain’t that good, we just weren’t ready to play. If we played them again Saturday we’d win by 20 IMO.

It's great what the two wins have done for KU football fans. KU is a 7 and a half point underdog at Baylor. We may actually talk about a W in Waco. Starting QB Bender is going to have to throw the ball some to keep Baylor's defense honest. What's up with Sims and his drops? I hope Meacham and Beaty are working hard on the medium level passes, 8-12 yds. Baylor and the rest of the BIG 12 will load the box to stop the rush, so Bender's passing and our receivers's catching must improve. I'm actually looking forward to the Baylor challenge rather than dreading it like years' past.

stoptheflop said:

It's great what the two wins have done for KU football fans. KU is a 7 and a half point underdog at Baylor. We may actually talk about a W in Waco. Starting QB Bender is going to have to throw the ball some to keep Baylor's defense honest. What's up with Sims and his drops? I hope Meacham and Beaty are working hard on the medium level passes, 8-12 yds. Baylor and the rest of the BIG 12 will load the box to stop the rush, so Bender's passing and our receivers's catching must improve. I'm actually looking forward to the Baylor challenge rather than dreading it like years' past.

I agree with you about actually looking forward to a game on a Saturday instead of dreading another beating. - -How long has it been since I've been able to say that? lol - Now in the end run we may get our butt's stomped - - AGAIN in Big 12 play but I truly feel we might be a little more competitive this year time will tell , but at least it's cool to actually have a little something positive to say about KU football. Maybe - -just Maybe we can get this thing to start getting turned around.- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY