Hopefully there will be defensive improvement. Maybe Dedric will show up.
OMG Dedric
loooooooooool
That was crazy!!
Dedric will be shooting from a hospital bed before he leaves
The Lawson . on your butt.
Get baaaaaaaaack
pretty good D by both big guys so far too
Doke forcing too much.
Yeah he is
I wonder where Self gets his hair... done
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Doke forcing too much.
Will be an issue all year probably.
Good take, Vick.
Would like to see us run a little more. Okay a lot more!
Cajuns are hangin'
Oh I liked that drive
Dedric's rolls off and that brick rolls in. Come on now.
Watching on espn+ I seem to be a bit behind some of you
BShark said:
Hopefully there will be defensive improvement.
Narrator: There was not.
Cajuns are spicy hot
Nova, despite their last game, will break 100 against this KU team.
So is Self
Mitch got chewed out big time
wut? I missed that foul
Welp. Dave time this game I would think.
Vick seems more active overall so far this year
BShark said:
KansasComet said:
@BShark I respectfully disagree.
This team is really poor defensively. It's kind of surprising to me.
A lot of new pieces learning how to play together, not really surprising the chemistry isn't there yet. The defense will be better by the time the Nova game rolls around and they won't hang a 100 on KU.
Our defensive rotations are awful/non-existent
WOW. Everything goes in for them.
not our night
only going to win by 20
Decent looking FTs for Marcus
@Texas-Hawk-10 and.... I'm going!
BS call on Moore
This team could use a loss to wake them up. Bad effort.
Not a foul
Nothing Louisiana is doing on offense is particularly impressive. The guy ball fakes at the 3-point line and has an uncontested layup. Defense has a lot of work to do.
@Crimsonorblue22 Agreed!
This team is lacking a floor leader right now, but I'm pretty sure Grimes or Dotson will mature as the season goes on
we're playing with our food.
Where is big Dave? Come on.
KU playing pretty small right now
Nice ball movement
What was that?
Wow.
Dedric has lost all confidence
he got Lawson IN THE AIR
low altitude
Chunky dude smart, gpa ball
He also got away with the biggest carry I've ever seen before he got Dedric in the air.
Mitch, there are 4 guys in front of you
Big Dave time
WTH!!
KUSTEVE said:
we're playing with our food.
No. Louisiana is the better team.
flagrant? WTF
What?
Well let’s see what Mr Mcormick can do
What the hell?
Over the back!
Flagrant my ass
Bullshit!
Might be a new rule for over the back of 5 guys
Classic stupid over the back rebound. Good lord, refs.
There is no definition of a flagrant foul that Mitch committed.
Worth a T, I guess.
Official needs to lose his job.
That was a terrible call on Mitch.
But regardless, Louisiana is kicking KU's ass.
We will be up 5 by half
Flagrant!!!
Flagrant!
I had three exclamation points, Crimson
U r faster!
That must be a flagrant too then, right? That was worse than anything Lightfoot did.
heading down to the beer fridge. Anyone need anything?
All of your beer.
Lay off Vick!
Big Dave
Dave
Give me hustle every time!
Big Dave is like Jamari only bigger
Little more skilled than Jamari too
DanR said:
Big Dave is like Jamari only bigger
More upside too I think
That's funny, he was fouled
Louisiana carries the ball a lot. They don't get called for it.
might want to guard that guy
Anyway to watch this game? Grrrrrr.....my love/hate relationship with ESPN continues.
Much better!
Good grief refs. Ever see a blatant travel before?
4.99 for one game or is that like a month?
4.99 a month.
Put your hand in the cookie jar, follow your shot
The guy who's torching is from 3 is Justin Miller. He didn't even attempt a 3 in Louisiana's first 2 games this season. Last season he shot 26.8% from 3.
Rocking a baby. Last I saw was big Dave's hustle bucket
@KirkIsMyHinrich figures
Big Dave will be a load when he starts playing at normal tempo. His adrenaline has him playing too fast right now.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Regardless, I love the effort!
Garrett missed the big guy
That tap, rebound and second shot were quick
KansasComet said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Regardless, I love the effort!
Zero complaints on his effort. Much easier to slow someone down rather than speed up.
Atta boy! Millers luck is over
DanR said:
We will be up 5 by half
If you are right I'll buy ya a beer
Charge.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Charge.
Yep, it really was. Refs are terrible. This one benefited KU but I don't trust these refs at all.
@KirkIsMyHinrich good thing grimes is strong! That's a load
The guy isn't getting tired, he's not a 3-point shooter. This is some Northern Iowa stuff.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
The guy isn't getting tired, he's not a 3-point shooter. This is some Northern Iowa stuff.
CORRECT. He was freaking 15-56 last year!!! And 1-2 headed into this game.
I was wrong. It was a block.
Yeah didn’t see those heels on the line.
No offensive flow at all ??
Get Moore out.
It was a block because his heels were on the semicircle.
I think Garrett just wants to shoot free throws
Maybe get Vick the ball?
The starters should be fresh?
Garrett looks improved at the FT line.
Ok, I checked it out with the budget director. I'm in. Joined just in time to see the lane wide open for 2 LA baskets.
My bad.
@KirkIsMyHinrich tbh he does look better, he almost has to!
Sick Vick
Vick the God
Could've been up five, but didn't deserve it
Locker room fireworks are imminent...
Sick slick Vick.
That was a "no no no YESSS!" shot from Vick LOL.
Miller was 1 for his last 4 threes. That's closer to normal for him...
Gant is a 27% career 3 point shooter and Miller who started hot was 15-56 last year. Yes giving up open looks is bad but Miller eventually cooled off. Just contest him at all and the game could be a lot different. Loads of room for improvement on defense for this KU team. Looks like a pick up game.
My last name is Gantz, no relation to the UL player.
The rims officially don't like Dedric.
why is a hook a flagrant, though?
They called the same thing on the Badgers the other night. We were all perplexed.
Vick shoot
Very odd. Just call the foul.
Sweet pass
that was a nice lob, d
Doke?
dl
Miller is cold
I don't ever remember a higher volume dunker than Doke
Better call that
Could've been a foul or travel
We had two of the great finishers the last few years. Frustrating to watch guys not finishing.
@Crimsonorblue22 Yes!
@Crimsonorblue22 Fri, Nov. 23 is on ESPN2
Much better intensity to start this half.
@tundrahok good!
Still think Dedric is a cheat code?
@Crimsonorblue22 I'm listening to the radio online. ESPN+ doesn't work outside the US, and is too smart for my VPN.
@tundrahok darn!
Vick is so athletic.
approxinfinity said:
Still think Dedric is a cheat code?
Ya.
Getting back on def not a priority I see
Play some D
can't d that
Moore and group haven't figured that out
Kubie said:
Getting back on def not a priority I see
Copy Paste, although I presume the coaches have noticed this too.
any links for game?
Dedric doing better
Red hot shooting. Glad we are still scoring the ball.
Miller is stuck on 22 points meaning Miller Time is over.
We need a hound dog defender. Charlie aint it.
DanR said:
can't d that
That was Trey Burke range.
I am fairly pleased with ESPN+ so far. No buffering so far and not horribly behind it seems
No moore
No Moore and Garrett
Hopefully Grimes and Dotson are rested and educated from riding the pine....
Vick plays like this all year he will get drafted
ESPN+ has worked well for me too. Just a bit upset that it used to be free and worked good enough and now it aint free no mo.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
No moore
:thinking:
That kid for Louisiana was fouled on that last 3PA. Refs missed it.
Yeah they are missing obvious calls both ways. Probably balancing out I guess.
Can KU pay Luke Yaklich to teach them to play defense?
@Crimsonorblue22 that part is nice.
gotta make that, Chaz
wissox said:
ESPN+ has worked well for me too. Just a bit upset that it used to be free and worked good enough and now it aint free no mo.
There's a ton more content on there now though so I don't mind paying for it. MLS, NHL, and MLB games I wouldn't have otherwise gotten to see I've been able to see now.
We haven't been good at D since 2011
Doke has to find Dedric on the double team
Dumb ass
Can't play Garrett And Dotson together.
Doke playing much better on the perimeter, first half he did jack out there
Grime nary a dime
Louisiana carries the ball every possession.
Pretty sure that was a travel
Not really sure this is the #2 team in the country.
Veto commercial
wissox said:
Not really sure this is the #2 team in the country.
It's not.
wissox said:
Not really sure this is the #2 team in the country.
Definitely not.
Have you seen the #1 team though?
BShark said:
Can't play Garrett And Dotson together.
This is a serious post btw. Both are brick masons that don't have to be guarded from 3.
Grimes needs to watch some film of that Oubre guy and why he didn't start for a few games. No reason he's not tearing these cajuns up.
I didn't say it's not, I just said I'm not sure!
argh, grimes
Out of bounds
Who’s jumping off the bridge? Just got home and saw it’s close!
getting bailed out for some STUPID offensive stuff
I’ll have to rewatch
Both teams have been very sloppy this half.
Doke needs to slow down on his FT's
Weakest shit I've ever seen from a KU big, Lawson
I wonder what the longest shot is that Doke has ever made at KU?
Finish. Damn.
Good d by grimes
FINISH THEM
We're young and/or new... gotta keep reminding myself.
When Quentin plays aggressively and well he is soooo good. But we knew this was an issue. Thankfully, Self should be able to poke it out of Grimes.
I got bv north fb
Should be a fun year for coach self. How many asses can fires be lit under on one team?
Switched back
Make the freebie, Doke!
Bye.
sigh
I’m glad I showed up and put this game away.
We have a lot of tough teams to practice with
Double dribble
If we don't lose to Marquette, we're losing to Tennessee.
Everyone ready to ride Vick to the national championship?
Vick 30?! Wow
Vick for National Player of the Week!
Welcome back
We have the college version of Shaq and Kobe.
6 3's?
7?
In 2006-2007 we started the season 5-4, with baby guards. Remember we finished the season with something like 13 straight wins?
Make that 7
@KirkIsMyHinrich not losing to Barnes
You'd think people would guard Vick.
Vick in Dedric's face, I LOVE IT
Good gosh was Memphis that bad?
Vick needs to show some BIG TIME improvement in the post game interviews now.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
If we don't lose to Marquette, we're losing to Tennessee.
You've turned into me.
we sorta made the other guys look pretty good, but hey, wins are wins, and good guys win again
@Crimsonorblue22 I know. I feel for the guy... you can tell it's so hard
Bench contributed very little again.
approxinfinity said:
In 2006-2007 we started the season 5-4, with baby guards. Remember we finished the season with something like 13 straight wins?
It was 2005-06 and KU flamed out in the first round of the NCAA tournament.
I know this because we had a Gameday game against Texas in Austin and Texas blew them away by 25.
Vick had 7 of our 8 3s. Q had the only other 3 tonight. Ku was 8/22 from 3, 36%.
@Crimsonorblue22 Wait, we played D tonight?
6-11 from the floor, 7-10 from the line. 19 points 6 reb 3 ast. And crucified for his performance. Welcome to KU basketball Dedric.
Honestly, I enjoyed the game. Tons of room to improve!
If anyone told me before season that Vick was gonna have 32 and 33 in back to back games id be thrilled and assume he'd have a huge season.
Vick 7-12 from 3, the rest of the team 1-10. Vick also had 9 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals...excellent game for him and be career high of 33 after his previous career high of 32 agains Vermont.
If Doke and Vick had made it to the pros, this would be a really really raw team.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark preseason all American
Yep. Can't jump over a dollar bill either. He is a nice player and will put up stats for KU. Might not end up AA. If KU improves as a team and has a successful year individual accolades will happen.
The huge part for Dedric is playing within the offense and not forcing things.
Seeing those statues at the post game desk, I'd really love to see KU change their logo to a modernized version of the Warhawk logo. Logos should be mean looking and ours is anything but mean looking.
@Texas-Hawk-10 that's the beauty of the Jayhawk logo. Happy like Kansans, but still kicks your ass
You glad Vick came back? lo - - just got to stay after it - -opponents get better next week - -but he is steppin up - - -The announcers dong the game and then Gurley both said Vick had 33 points and NINE rebounds tonight = =not to bad. - - -put that on top of his 32 points before that.
Gotta get the freshman going again - - Devon struggling a little Bit - -Grimes like they said needs to be more aggressive
, -- Doke had a good game 17 points - - - -8 rebounds - - 4 blocks- - just got to work on those dam free throws. , think they brought up a good point - -they said they know all the fans want Doke to do well with his free throws but they say when he DOES MAKE a free throw they cheer so loud all it's does is add that much more pressure .,
Personal thought - -I feel McCormick needs to take over in the rotation over Mitch -very raw but like Coach said McCormick saved us in the 1st half. - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Not sure I like Moore and Garrett in together
Garrett doesn't seem like a pt guard, maybe he grew to fast
@Crimsonorblue22 Garrett + Dotson is even worse, but I agree.
Garrett is definitely a PG. Ran the offense at times tonight, had the most assists.
There is something to be said about tradition and I believe the Jayhawk has deep tradition, is one a kind and I would no change it. What is next Oakland Raiders like black uniforms?
@Crimsonorblue22 Garrett initiated the offense several times, tried to make plays.
@Crimsonorblue22 Total stats for Garrett? 6 pts 5 ast 2 reb 1 stl.
I love the Memphis accent
Interesting minute notes
Grimes over 30 again, all three games now.
Mitch and KJ 2 minutes each. Deep bench.
Moore 21 Dotson 20. Similar stats except Dotson made a couple 2s.
Everyone knows how fond I am of the Marsha family? My son and his fiancé are at a fundraiser in wichita and he sends me a pic of greggggg and it's a multi course dinner w/him and his wife, other couples, wine and after dinner drinks. lynn is helping cook. So get drunk w/mrs Marsha? Jk!
@Texas-Hawk-10 The current logo is a slightly altered version of the one created by KU student Hal Sandy in 1946. I worked for Sandy Inc, an advertising display company in KC, during school vacations in the late 70's thru 1981, but unfortunately he had sold it by then so I never met him. I remember the first day I worked there I found out why the Jayhawk copyright had his name, not KU like today, after the circled c. Keep it, I say!
Udoka was asked what the message was from Bill Self during a 1st half timeout with KU down 10.
"You don't want to know. You don't want to know," He said.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Udoka was asked what the message was from Bill Self during a 1st half timeout with KU down 10.
"You don't want to know. You don't want to know," He said.
:skull_crossbones: :skull: :skull_crossbones: :skull:
Scott Chasen
‏ @ChasenScott
24m24 minutes ago
Dedric Lawson was super reflective and honest in his post-game session. Talked about adjusting to new teammates and not being the focal point of the offense. Can tell he's trying to make it work. Just an adjustment right now. #kubball
This pleases me. Dedric understands.
Dedric was 6-11, 7-10 from the FT and 0-1from 3 with 6 rebounds and 3 assists; perhaps not what we expected but not too bad either.
I was at the local football game so I didn't get to watch. Sounds like it was ugly except for Vick a again...
Now I understand the flagrant foul for hooking in the paint. I first saw it called in another game and didn't see anything, just two players side by side waiting for a rebound. But, the replay shows Mitch with his arm entwined with the Cagin player. Clearly, wrapping the other player's upper arm is an effort to limit his ability to rebound. Hooking will be cleaned up in a couple of weeks. As a TV viewer, it's very hard to see unless you know what to look for.