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KU wins 79-68, let's go Jayhawks

We get Fran. Blech.

Glad UNC knocked off Harvard in good time.

Don't think he called bank on that one lol

Shut up Fran. It was a flop.

Oh boy what a great start.

Down 7 early

2 of OU's 3 makes were lucky to go in. The other one was just very bad defense.

Is this the worst team Bill has ever had at KU? Getting pounded by OU in Lawrence.

There you go, Vick.

The 3rd shot that's gone in and out for KU. Man

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

The 3rd shot that's gone in and out for KU. Man

Par for the course with this team.

Fran is eating this up of course.

Who's guarding maniac

@Crimsonorblue22 Dedric I think.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@Crimsonorblue22 Dedric I think.

Whoever Dedric guards usually goes off.

We will be fine. Hopefully score after the break time for d law to get something

Mr. Oklahoma calling the game tonight

@Bwag /isu

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@Bwag /isu

Thats his adopted child

Keep attacking, Vick.

Dave is a black hole

Woah, Vick.

Garrett taking threes welp

For being big again this team is not good at rebounding.

Poke a Dok going to be a strategy? (Guess we need to get at least a small lead)

Kruger >>> Self

BShark said:

Kruger >>> Self

Come on...now you're trolling

@Bwag What do you mean NOW he is trolling... ;)

Dotson and Vick out. OU run might be coming.

That ref sucks

@BeddieKU23 Joe DeRosa lives to screw KU.

Thats a jacket there Snacks

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dotson and Vick out. OU run might be coming.

Dotson was keeping KU in it for a bit there.

Good effort out there

Good thing Oklahoma cant make anything

He (Grimes) shoulda dunked on that layin

BeddieKU23 said:

Good thing Oklahoma cant make anything

Dueling brickers.

Is the coast clear yet?

@BShark This looks like WVU/Tech part 2...

Tech beats west Virginia

@BShark Two of Vick's 3's were in-and-out and I'm okay with Dedric shooting a 3 when he's wide-open. I can live without the Garrett 3's though.

Hugs got screwed on a foul at the end

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@BShark Two of Vick's 3's were in-and-out and I'm okay with Dedric shooting a 3 when he's wide-open. I can live without the Garrett 3's though.

Fine with the looks, but some need to go in eventually. Not sure this team can get much better shooting the ball.

Nasty!

Really nice ball fake by Doke to get the double team off of him. Good stuff.

Damn chuck! Minutes

More dunks please.

Crap!

@BShark Garrett saw your post.

Shizzola

on Q!

@Crimsonorblue22 Are both nasty and crap good things???? ;)

Nice run

How bout dat

@DCHawker yes! Trying not to say the sh word

@DCHawker Honestly I thought KU took good shots early and just had some hard luck. Starting to fall now.

Huge 3 by grimes

GRIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let’s keep this intensity up!

Charlie's play was really good

Was that a double-dribble by Manek?

BeddieKU23 said:

Huge 3 by grimes

There is really no reason for him to be bad.

@BShark Self >>>>> Kruger

@KirkIsMyHinrich and a walk?

Bwag said:

@BShark Self >>>>> Kruger

Actually, better execution now by the players...

Though one has to agree that Self screwed the pooch last year in the Poke a Dok game.

Gotta put that back in Dedric.

Calm down fran, showning your true colors

Some slops

For as good as Dedric is he misses a ton of shots at the rim

Big time steal for moore

Lawson has been really bad offensively.

Pretty low foul game so far from the refs.

Had a chance to blow it open and couldn’t capitalize

Ugly game on offense for KU; Grimes is our leading scorer with 7. Dedric 0/5.

Dedric telegraph's the spin move worse than wiggins.

@BShark he HAS to settle down.

If Dedric could make bunnies it'd be a beat down. Dunk the damn ball dude your 6'9

kjayhawks said:

If Dedric could make bunnies it'd be a beat down. Dunk the damn ball dude your 6'9

He just isn't a dunker.

@bmensch1 Wiggins spin move is actually awesome, though.

@BeddieKU23 Just not the same when he is playing along side Doke and offense doesn't run through him...

Ruhroh

Grimes, lil things

9...9 first half point?

Maniac! Stop him

Damn foul

They did foul him, Fran. It just never gets called.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Maniac! Stop him

Nope. He's gonna go off tonight. KU doesn't have anyone that can guard a player like Manek. Maybe playing small with Garrett on him, or if Silvio was allowed to play...

And 1. Atta babe, Dotson.

2 on him?

Every league game has been a struggle to score so far fwiw. Texas 19 KSU 14 with 7 minutes to go in the first half.

That was a foul.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

That was a foul.

Not with this crew.

U owed us Vick

Should be 3 for 3 from 3.

We good

11...

He barely touches and gets the foul, they jump him and none....

Joe DeRosa calling ticky-tack fouls on Doke. Meanwhile he gets mauled on the other end. I hate that guy.

THIS Grimes kid is the Michigan state grimes kid I've been hoping for.

@KirkIsMyHinrich jinx

Good stuff to put the lead back up

It’s awesome to see how much more active Vick is this year compared to last year

Need to get Dedric going. Like the way grimes is playing, both ends

OU only has 2 fouls in the game.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

OU only has 2 fouls in the game.

Officially. well one sided so far

Vick was active till the Nebraska game last year. Then the whole...I'll just stand in the corner and wait for the lob call. But yet he played 35 min a game.

Having doke out there is poor excuse for Dedric, he had several good games with him. He just isn't strong enough to be a consistent scorer against good teams.

Iowa St. obviously. Why even ask Fran that question?

Vick has had some nice energy plays. Making up for another no show for lawson with doke back

bmensch1 said:

Vick was active till the Nebraska game last year. Then the whole...I'll just stand in the corner and wait for the lob call. But yet he played 35 min a game.

Unfortunately, Self had zero options last year.

@KirkIsMyHinrich 🤮

Vick WYD?

That's the 2nd bank for OU.

Vick sloppy again

Lucky Vick?

That was a 3???

Vick passed up an open shot for a tough shot.

Good Vick!

No one watching this game cares about Duke. Shut up.

Good version vick definitely goes on and off

Dave with a being big foul

BeddieKU23 said:

Dave with a being big foul

Not a foul on OU.

Sweet Dedric

Dedric!

Marcus Moore?

Nice D tonight, and our shots are starting to fall. Like the inside play too.

@Crimsonorblue22 Of the Boston Keltics.

Best part so far? KU with ONLY 5 turnovers.

Great end to that half. Impressive work

Remember when it was 7 to 0 and @BShark was all excited to be right for the second time this season. Yeah....that was awesome.

Solid half, just wasn't making shots early. I figured OU was a pretender with their SOS but better come out and put there foot down.

I was scared to death that half court shot was going to go the same way those two bank shot prayers went in for the Okies...

bmensch1 said:

Remember when it was 7 to 0 and @BShark was all excited to be right for the second time this season. Yeah....that was awesome.

He has to do that so Kansas wins. You should be thanking him.

@bmensch1 bshark is right where we need him

@KirkIsMyHinrich jinx again

Thanks @BShark lmao

ISU OSU game appears to be rancid from the box score.

KSU with 22 pts at half but only down 3...

@bmensch1 He's putting a double zombie piss on us - when he says we'll win, we don't. When he says we'll lose, we don't. He's trying to help us win...

@BShark apparently the the KSU vs Texas game was stopped because some old man fell asleep and on to the court.

Self >>>>Kruger....

Woodrow said:

For as good as Dedric is he misses a ton of shots at the rim

From below the rim...

@kjayhawks what?

Woodrow said:

Had a chance to blow it open and couldn’t capitalize

Up 15 at half not good enough?

@KUSTEVE after last year I'm not a Lon fan!

we're up 15, and we haven't played well. Lawson has had a ghastly first half...wouldn't it be great if we actually played well?

I think Tech is the only team that's tough enough to win enough away from home and give KU a run for the conference. ISU won't win enough away from Ames. KState same thing.

@kjayhawks was it Bruce that fell?

Other than the Duke elite 8 game...it's been a long...long time since I can remember 2 solid halves from a ku team. Maybe the ou/ku game from 2 years ago.

Joel Embiid has 26 points and 11 rebounds with 3 minutes left in the 2ND QUARTER.

He is abusing DeAndre Ayton tonight and I kind of feel bad for Ayton.

@Crimsonorblue22 no but his squeaky voice may have played a role like the device Iron Monger uses in the first Iron movie to paralyze people.

@KirkIsMyHinrich ha ha

To bad we don't care fran

Starting the second half like they did the second. Hopefully it ends in a similar fashion...

OU only had 4 fouls in the 1st half, Fran. It's going both ways.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Fran wants it to go one way. Guess which.

Bad call

Fast hands

How can you miss that q

Hustle guys

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Hustle guys

nah

Damn announcers, wet your drawers

@KirkIsMyHinrich Mr. Game Time Decision. Thanks for hosing me again, Joel...

I have probably watched 1500 basketball games...and never have Ive seen 2 air balls in one possession

Oklahoma with another 7-0 run to start the 2nd half.

BShark said:

Starting the second half like they did the second. Hopefully it ends in a similar fashion...

.....

We really cant shoot

Bwag said:

Woodrow said:

Had a chance to blow it open and couldn’t capitalize

Up 15 at half not good enough?

Like I said

BeddieKU23 said:

We really cant shoot

Huge issue

Shit

Yes fran

welppppppp

Ya he did have his heels on the line, Fran.

f that ref

I thought that was reviewable

BULLSHIT

It was a flop anyway.

CHUCK

3 on him too

WTF is Moore doing? That’s not even a shot.

Just need 1 to go in and all good.

Woodrow said:

WTF is Moore doing? That’s not even a shot.

That's him. Still have yet to figure out

Is it reviewable?

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Is it reviewable?

Not with these stripes.

I dont believe you can

@Woodrow rec league special....he'll be shooting that same shot when he's 45...

Maybe under 2 minutes

Embiid with 30 and 14 at halftime. What a God

Heels were on the line, idk why refs dont just do a no call if they dont have the angle. Back to missing shots again.

If only we had a veteran backup point guard that could protect a lead without jacking up bonehead shots.

End the half up 15 and go almost 5 minutes without a basket. Ugh

WTH?

Grimes shot is not even close. He needs to Attack the rim

Grimes dont even hit the right side of the rim

9-0 run. Sure hope we get our heads out of that smelly place.

That's Grimes not Dotson

Man Garrett lay it in, what what that

we need points....

We got one!

Wow that's a pathetic free throw

Should we start now?

Garrett block maniac out

BeddieKU23 said:

End the half up 15 and go almost 5 minutes without a basket. Ugh

One could say consistency is an issue.

Been awhile since we have had a 5 and a half minute drought. This will happen a lot this season with no outside shot.

Chuck noooo

Take out Moore please

Gotta get Garrett out. OU isn't guarding him at all

Two Charlie specials

Shut up

justanotherfan said:

Gotta get Garrett out. OU isn't guarding him at all

That Lon Kruger is a thinker.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Shut up

For real. I'm about to write a letter.

Charlie stinks

Was Moore fiouled on the shot?

I loved bahe

We got a FG! Only took 7 minutes.

Mr. Oklahoma on a roll again

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I loved bahe

He can definitely keep climbing this career ladder in broadcasting if he wants to.

Foul fran

My god Grimes not even coming close

Dedric got fouled.

Nice shot, Vick.

Fran they happen on our end too, stop yaking and watch!

7 points 8 minutes into the half. That's pretty BRUCE-ish.

We'll take the 3 instead

At some point self has to decide whether he can play Garrett in a big lineup. I say no. It's sad watching every defender sag 5 feet

Fran is right. Don't have to guard Q or Garrett. Playing 3 against 5 on offense.

@BeddieKU23 I think grimes was just trying to get the foul, if we r talking the same shot

BeddieKU23 said:

At some point self has to decide whether he can play Garrett in a big lineup. I say no. It's sad watching every defender sag 5 feet

Definitely can't afford it.

KU is 3-18 for three and many have been open looks.

justanotherfan said:

Gotta get Garrett out. OU isn't guarding him at all

Who do you play though? They don’t have to guard Grimes, Garrett, or Moore either. We all knew this team was going to lack shooting but I don’t think anyone could have predicted it would be this abysmal.

I'm already tired of Fran bit**ing about the refs, they are letting the men play a little, could be called several more fouls on both ends.

I miss Svi.

I don't miss his raptor arms on defense, though.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BeddieKU23 I think grimes was just trying to get the foul, if we r talking the same shot

Talking his free throw. Or any other 3 hes taken. None have been close

Grimes rushes everything it seems. Wish the staff would get him to slow down on his release

KU is 62% from 2. Just force it, anything is better than threes with this team.

We were obviously grossly spoiled with the shooters we have had the past seasons especially last two years, but to go to this is brutal.

NBA update Joel Emiid is killing the suns with 30 in the first half as the 76ers lead 72 to 49

@kjayhawks Against Ayton too. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Ok!

Kj with his first appearance

Woodrow said:

We were obviously grossly spoiled with the shooters we have had the past seasons especially last two years, but to go to this is brutal.

Kind of an insane contrast.

KU has some shooters on the way, but idk how ready they will be to play next year.

OMG GARRETT HIT TWO FTS!

@BShark In a row!

OU sets moving screens.

bmensch1 said:

Kj with his first appearance

And last I bet

Kj to herky jerky

Pretty sad effort on those last two made baskets by ou

What the hell is KJ doing in there? Can't shoot, can't dribble. My God this is sick.

bmensch1 said:

Kj with his first appearance

Kj with his first benching tonight...good 25 seconds young man.

Kj and Charlie need to be cut from the rotation, KJs handles are as bad as JR giddens were.

Self is in KJ's head at this pt. We have seen this before. Hopefully he becomes better for it but it won't be this year.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

OU sets moving screens.

I think that was a contributing factor in the last KJ foul

Get on the floor

Dedric better w/out doke

Dedric time!!!!!

Bout time

Obvious foul.

Offense suffers when we play Doke and Dedric together. Too bad.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Tell me about it. DeRosa was the ref in the brutal Wiscy loss to Duke.

Yes

Lonnie🤔

If Dotson hadn't picked up his 3rd foul on the bad charge call then I say we're up by 20 right now.

Small ball is fools gold.

Been kind of ugly, but winning ugly is still winning.

So, and bare with me on this because it's a scorching hot take: Dedric is better when he makes lay-ups.

He wants doke in, only way he can win🤔🤨👊

Duke again...

There we go finally dedric has come back to life

@BShark cause he has room

I still small ball is better with this club, alternate between doke and Lawson, ride the hot hand.

Marcus made a great pass on that Dotson three

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

If Dotson hadn't picked up his 3rd foul on the bad charge call then I say we're up by 20 right now.

Strongly agree.

bmensch1 said:

Small ball is fools gold.

A+ post.

Manek looks more like Jack Sikma than Bird.

Play your best 5 and then adjust as the game goes. Ou makes it easy to play small without McNease a factor today

@nwhawkfan someone needs to body him up! d him up before he gets the ball!

kjayhawks said:

I still small ball is better with this club, alternate between doke and Lawson, ride the hot hand.

Self knows this deep down too. When games have been tight down the stretch he has frequently went small.

Gives the post player enough room to operate inside. Just not enough shooting and speed on the court otherwise. Defense is "good enough".

@nwhawkfan he looks like he rode into town with his sister lol.

He looks like his sister!

This is a Jaybate Hall Of Fame team. Badball on steroids...

I think it makes ku deadly to have both schemes to play. We can beat teams with one or the other

I think Manek looks like Andrei Kirilenko. AK47

Is this game at ou?

VOMIT

Bullcrap

@BShark Yep and it had worked well and it will especially if Dedric can hit that 15 foot jumper. Attack with finesse and then power.

Not every team will have the defense to defend our bigs, tonight has been a mixed bag. Garrett cant play in a big lineup as effectively as we've seen him in the small ball

In fact he looks exactly like Kirilenko.

Boy that OU clip was REAL original. Never seen anybody else do that bit before...

@KirkIsMyHinrich I was thinking Jack Sikma.

Yes?

So that was logged officially as a turnover on Grimes, but blah.

was this scheduled to be an OU broadcast tonight? Just wondering

@Bwag seems like it, bs

Did you all see? Garrett made a shot tonight.

Whoa

He got fouled too lol

Whoa again

Attaboy Q

Dedric has a bad case of the Garrett's tonight.

Didn't need those last shots by Dedric

Also, Dotson with some globetrotter shit against the Oklahoma Generals.

Grimes needs to do more of that

A good 3 minutes here and we can put this game away.

Dedric needs to check out, just throwing up crap now.

@Bwag pretty crazy that they don't have their announcers at the game for two ranked teams, conference opener at Allen Fieldhouse. I'll bet Kentucky had announcers at their conference opener.

Not a good shot by Dedric there.

Harlem Globetrotter moves there

Dedric? U r smart?

Not sure why Bill went back to Dedric + Doke

Fudge off Fran.

Hack-a-Doke is imminent.

Low Lon

Uggghhh....time to take out done for the rest of the game

It's Hack-A-Doke time.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Low Lon

I mean, it's Bill's fault for leaving Doke in.

No way is that a foul on Dedric. Garbage call.

What the hell is Dedric doing gunning with 25 seconds on the clock? Here we go with hack a Doke. Get him out now!!!

D Law going one on 5 or quick draw or what the hell is he actually trying to do out there? Did Bill Self give up running offense?

That same guy all night sucks

Wow that's a bad call.

Weak come on franny

approxinfinity said:

Wow that's a bad call.

Reallly bad

Pull him...Put in some muscle and punch the hell out of some OU players.

Garrett fouled. Fran doesn't care.

"The Trial of Bill Self"

Garrett is just embarrassing on offense.

stoptheflop said:

Garrett is just embarrassing on offense.

He was fouled :shrug:

This is so sloppy

@BShark He is still embarrassing.

Garrett has 5 of our 10 assists, though.

They have a few really bad throw shooters too, don't know if they r out there, worse than doke.

Officials were told, boys we got to keep people watching this game, so you know, make sure it stays close. Of course some of our uneven play has kept it close too.

@BShark Is Garrett really the player we want driving to the rim during crunch time?

stoptheflop said:

@BShark Is Garrett really the player we want driving to the rim during crunch time?

Nope. Good move just didnt finish even if fouled

Crimsonorblue22 said:

They have a few really bad throw shooters too, don't know if they r out there, worse than doke.

Punch them out then...but make it look like a "basketball play"

Some favorable whistles for OU but Fran has no guts to say crap about it what a douche canoe.

@stoptheflop No, it's who Oklahoma wants driving to the rim during crunch time.

stoptheflop said:

@BShark Is Garrett really the player we want driving to the rim during crunch time?

He was good finishing at the rim last year on the whole...

Buddy love?

If Fran was calling fouls, most of our team would have fouled out by now.

If I'm Self draw up a lob to Doke

No fran

Great block. Now score.

Vick?

Oh hey it's crunch time and Garrett is on Manek.

Shooting too early!

Foul?

Looked like a push on Dotson. Pretty dumb to even be close there.

That guy straight up calls everything on ku

WE would be dangerous if we could score.

Grimes!

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Grimes!

Grimes covered his butt there with the D.

Grimes and Dotson

Big time effort by Q

Grimes went and got it back

Wow. That happens to Doke every time he touches the ball.

Wow Q!

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Wow. That happens to Doke every time he touches the ball.

Or much much worse...

F these refs. Trash

Good effort by Q, Dotson foul was BS no contact whatsoever. Refs keeping it close as they are paid to.

Lucky Chucky

Yes

Wow

lol okay

Refs getting whistle happy here at the end

Charlie gets the make up call, Vick must return vs zone.

Fran is a silly little leprechaun. Manek is Larry Bird. That's magically delicious!

"Lawson mauls him."

Okay, officially hate Fran.

Hope these refs swallow their whistles down the stretch, but I'm not hopeful.

SHUT UP FRAN

I guess we want to take this down to the last possession.

Blow to the head...review?

Some where Larry Bird is shaking his head

Fran👊

FRANNNNNNNNN SHUT UP

Aaaarrrrggghhh

You don't even have Fran there.... You could literally have anyone calling this game from their armchair. Thanks ESPN!

kjayhawks said:

Some where Larry Bird is shaking his head

...and Sikma, and AK-47...

Fran really sucks

Bye Reynolds wrap

Shut. Up. Fran.

Jeez, Moore.

CHUCK

shut up, Fran...

Duct tape fran

@Bwag I thought you meant buy Reynolds wrap for Fran...

Good clutch shooting there Charlie. JEEEEZZZZZ!!!!!!!

Dedric never touched the guy, it doesn't matter if his hands are up or down, no contact= no foul.

Man Charlie your so aggravating

Might as well have Doke in there.

Not sure why Charlie is in the game tbh

How on earth do our guys not know not to shoot early in the clock by now. Vick bad dedric

Holy crap they are there. Isn't that the first shot we've had of them on sideline?

Love how announcers of KU games become our opponents coaches

We do not have 5 guys that can shoot FT's.

Why Vick has been out while Charlie has been in the past 2 minutes against this zone is piss poor coaching by self.

Now if only the mayor would make an appearance; Fran would reay sport wood then.

kjayhawks said:

Why Vick has been out while Charlie has been in the past 2 minutes against this zone is piss poor coaching by self.

I don't get it either

Just beautiful!!!

@kjayhawks maybe cause he's turned over the ball and shot the ball poorly?

Poor shot selection I mean

hate the easy, fast whistle in the minutes of a game

@Crimsonorblue22 he's lightyears better than Moore

That was a foul on Dedric but I mean I'll take the no call all things considered.

FINALLY!!! Should have been a 25 point game!!!

Got a break on that no call there

EXHALE

Flagrant...hit to the head

Big game dot

Man. Well at least Dotson was fun to watch.

Woodrow said:

Got a break on that no call there

I'd rather have the foul called on KU and be up by 20 right now.

i want 2 more on margin of victory to cover the spread...just cause

Dotson’s third foul changed the game.

we should've won this by 30. oh well... a win is a win.

Texas beat KSU by 20?

Hope we play better next game or it will be a blow out.

I don't think we've given the staff enough credit for recruiting Devon. After having 2 pgs that were senior studs we forget they weren't 5 stars or studs as freshmen.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Texas beat KSU by 20?

Yep

It must take a lot to coach up vick

@BShark the refs know they are most the reason its not a 12 point game. I'm telling ya'll that's my conspiracy theory. Watch two ranked teams and the team that gets up up double digits gets no calls for a good few minutes everytime the past few years.

Big Clyde52 said:

Hope we play better next game or it will be a blow out.

ISU beat the worst team in the league by 6.

Pulled it out? Remember the alamo.... our 5' 6" guy should dunk it on Lon

Can't bring this kind of game to Ames Saturday.

@BShark at osu

No magic

@BShark SO?????? WE know how tough it is to play up there. We will need our A+ game.

Not sure Doke and Dedric can play together, and you certainly can't play them with Garrett.

There are still some rotation issues to sort out.

Ain't that the truth.

KSU did its best 80s big east impression with 47 points.

Melvin Weatherwax incoming. Be careful any Jayhawks fans traveling to Ames.

@KirkIsMyHinrich that guy is scary!

@kjayhawks They were without 2 starters. But still happy for that outcome.

Embiid looks like he's still growing. Is that an8 foot rim and children he's playing against?

@justanotherfan I honestly think they could be good situationally, the first half they were decent together but Dedric missed several bunnies. Doke looked tired and outta shape. Which is to be expected after missing time.

He had a solid game last game 23 and 9 in 20 minutes.

@kjayhawks Dedric just plays better w/out him. He passes really well, though. Need to figure it out.

Any box scores yet?

@Crimsonorblue22 If Dedric was a better shooter from deep, they would be a deadly high low combo.

Win by 7 at home and must make FTs. Charlie Moore has got to make FTs and they have got to shut teams down. Let's see if we drop again for not winning by 20.
TT wins on the road by 3 at WVU.

It's a win.

It was good to see Grimes get going. Dotson is our best player. Poor game by Lawson. Charlie had some horrific moments. I'm not sure why we can't all our players going at the same time. One good game...just one would be nice.

@truehawk93 both those teams looked bad.

KU is the only Big 12 home team to win tonight. The road to the championship will require others to hold serve, except against KU. Saturday will be interesting.

@KUSTEVE Lets do that in April.

@Crimsonorblue22 As usual KU played down to OU in the PHOG. This is always concerning.

I have tix for the game in March at Lloyd Noble.

@truehawk93 For sure. Ahead by 15 at half. Should be a 25 point win at home.

@Big-Clyde52 I predicted at least 12 pt win. Hell, I would've taken a 10 pt win tonight.

@Big-Clyde52 this team requires a lot of patience to follow. we look great for spells, and then we suddenly stink.

@KUSTEVE I predicted a bit of a breakout for Grimes. He's way overdue. I hope he keeps rolling.

@truehawk93 I predicted a 6 point win. I also predicted we'd score 82, so not very close on the actual score.

Yep a win is a win. We just came out flat in second half. No excuse for that, especially at home. I was hoping for a team with killer instinct, but have thrown that hope out the window. They will mostly all be big time grinds.

@KUSTEVE Well, I don't remember who always says on the board that when KU reaches 70 pts first, wins. It's been fairly true almost every game.

@truehawk93 we will count on u to bring us a victory!

Gawd it's going to be a long season. But if we can win this way, I can only hope how we win after they get things figured.

We took some really quick, dumb shots at the end! Blows me away how dumb we can be. Never turn down a layup but these were pretty far out. Your clock is your friend. I drilled that in my teams when they were little.🤨

@truehawk93 we want a long season! Need to figure some chemistry out, get more 50 50 balls. I thought we talked better. Play D before your man catches the ball.

Grimes talks so fast he could be an auctioneer

@Gorilla72 I would be surprised if they came away Saturday with a win.

OU was ranked friends, they are missing Mcneace as well. I’m seeing them finishing 4th-6th in this conference and having a good shot to make the tournament. A good portion of why it was close is shooting. We shot 19% from 3 and 41% from the floor. Dedric was a huge part of that with finishing 6 for 17 and 0 for 3 from distance. Late he had 4 straight off balanced fade aways and missed some easy ones early. He had a strong finish to the first and a good stretch in the second but 13 points off of 17 shots isn’t effective enough. He now is shooting 4 for 23 from the outside this season, its border line a turnover at this point. Everyone wants to complain about Garrett, he’s 4 for 21 and has about 10 wide open ones a game if he wants to take them. I thought Garrett played a solid game, he took 3 shots, had 5 points and 5 assists while playing solid defense. Vick had a decent floor game, he just had too many crap passes and I’m sure that’s why Self had him out and Moore in late. But Moore couldn’t hit the free ones and can’t defend or rebound like Vick can, I’d say that probably doesn’t happen again unless Vick is fouled out.

@Woodrow It is a huge game for this early in the season. If we get a win in Hilton, we should win our next 4 after that, then get ISU at home. A 7-0 start would be outstanding.

The home games I picked, weather permitting, nova, isu, texass, KSU, Wvu, Baylor. That's before we knew tt and ou would be good and wade got hurt. Baylor last home.

@Big-Clyde52 Its too early yet to put a ton a this game or any other for the next few weeks. I think you’ll see Self trim down this rotation to the normal 7 or 8.KJ and Moore will probably start playing very sparingly from here on out. Moore is like Greene used to be (maybe worse), if his shot isn’t falling he’s a liability out there and of no use in every other aspect of the game.

@Crimsonorblue22 if you’re worried about the weather, I’m pretty close to you and maybe interested in taking tickets. Obviously I would pay you something for them.

I might be able to get a ticket to tt.

@kjayhawks I probably can't give them to my friends, they r my sons. He has them. But if I can I'll give u a holler.

Embiid had 40 and 15

DVRd...just done watching.
— Eerily similar to the ASU game, but we didn’t tank in the end. Thankfully.
— Dok and Lawson are not scoring well when paired together. Self needs to figure out how to make this work. I can’t. Lawson seems best to me when posting up close, not facing up. Dok’s the same, obviously. He can bully his way around. Lawson tries too many inefficient attempts when navigating too far from the hoop. To his credit he makes some hard ones.
— if we can’t shoot worth a shit, the above is important.
— Dotson is a Learjet. Shot from a cannon. With boosters. Lowercase mvp to Lawson.
— Grimes is scoring more. Happy about that. but somehow it’s not pretty. It’s a start.
— I got a kick out of the announcer praising him for his amazing hustle for diving on the floor for a loose ball — which of course was a turnover from his sloppy ball handling.
— KJ came in. KJ quickly turned it over trying to dribble. KJ less quickly attempted to guard on the perimeter — quite unsuccessfully, leading to a basket. KJ was quickly yanked. I hope this will put an end to you jokers who think KJ is a perimeter defender.
— Mitch should have had more floor time covering Larry Bird. Not a game for McCormack.
— Vick is way better at the step back three than any other shot. Realize it and stop the other wild-haired shots.
— We are not a poised team at times. Way too many quick triggers in the second half when we should be burning clock.
— Well, seems like we can expect some tight conference games!
— Glad that one is under our belt.

@Crimsonorblue22 By a long season I am referring to watching each game. It's not going to be comfortable. Each game is going to be scrappy. The ASU game makes me nauseous. Here we go to Ames...ugh.

No word at all on Silvio, ugh. This is painful to see him wasting on the bench in street clothes. Something needs to be decided. This is ridiculous. I thought something would be known by conference play. This is smelling more like bball politics than a ridiculous investigation.

Big Clyde52 said:

@Woodrow It is a huge game for this early in the season. If we get a win in Hilton, we should win our next 4 after that, then get ISU at home. A 7-0 start would be outstanding.

100% agree. I was looking at the schedule past this Saturday and it sets up nicely for KU. Saturday could be the big win and a momentum type win for this team.

@truehawk93 I know

Let's hope OU beats a very good TT team in Lubbock.

Let's also hope Baylor beats ISU in Waco.

I'm afraid #15 may be one of those seasons where other B12 teams beat the top contenders, like TT and ISU.

Then we have to hope our guys will capitalize on those gifts by maybe limping to #15 with a 1-2 game lead at the end of conference play.

I thought maybe something might motivate the fans. I wish Self would give this speech. I know this video is overdone but it seemed we went through something similar and wound up winning the conference. KU has been here before.

Other than the pissing away his money and not standing the face in the mirror.

So is basketball. This is basketball and Self needs to ask that fundamental question..."What are you going to do?"

@Big-Clyde52 We lost in Ames. We need to beat them in Lawrence.

If we can take care of business, we actually have a chance to stay where we belong. If we can beat WVU and then take care of ISU in the PHOG, the boys have a nice opportunity to earn #15.

@Crimsonorblue22 Embiid is a pure stud. I would add too that wish he could've played against freakin' Stanford. That's when they had those two Sequoia twin trees. We had Wigs, but really needed JoJo.

@truehawk93 That team was too young to do much in that tournament though.