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Predicting a bounce back at home.

Jesse has us covering and winning by 10

And Lightfoot as Hawk to Rock

@Bwag shocking!

Jnew needs to join our board. You think we can hire him away?

https://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/224095210/ ↗

Assuming his strengths and the opportunity to match up well with TCU weakness

@wissox used to for a while I think

Let's go Jayhawks!

@Bwag Yeah, he has commented previously. @Jesse-Newell where are you?

Dedric!

SHUT UP FRAN

Fran already at it.

There goes fran making calls against us.

@wissox I wonder if the job change or the heated year of Light and Dark pushed him to go black...bet he creeps...but with Jaybate disappeared and things getting a little boring around here...

@wissox was just complaining about Fran over here.

I keep reminding myself how many corner 3s Svi missed, but holy crap, gotta hit those.

That's too easy. Luck he missed there.

I can't believe how often our guys miss wide open looks on a 3.

Nice pass, Vick.

Where's the foul

Feels like we should be up 9.

approxinfinity said:

Where's the foul

Might have got him on the wrist. It was great defense otherwise. He'll learn.

Look sharp. Need to keep foot on gas and play two solid halves.

approxinfinity said:

Where's the foul

None seen of course

approxinfinity said:

Look sharp. Need to keep foot on gas and play two solid halves.

Lets hit the gas...or at least our 3s

I'm sure Fran saw a foul on the shot.

I know Robinson is savvy and a good passer but I'm already tired of seeing not double him up and force him to get the ball out. Almost all tcu points have been off him getting paint touches

Ochai!

Why is our defense endlessly chasing outside shots from so far away from the shooter...they dont hit a lot, so it may be by design, but really?

Bring it, double O

Oooo

What a way to get your first points.

Little BenMac!

@KirkIsMyHinrich Well, there goes the redshirt year. Not sure it'll make us that much better.

Welcome to big time! Just like Doke!

Awesome...first play a lob

Yeah buddy

Of course now we'll expect him to do that every time.

Bok Choi

Keep driving, Q.

Q is playing in the flow of the game. It's good

Ochai is banging some guys off the ball too. I likkeee

Nice drive q

Who was the last Jayhawk to wear #30?

Ochaiii

oops on the oop

Up chuck

what is wrong with mitch's hands. Grab the ball, dude.

Like that!

How can Charlie shoot like that. Joke

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Up chuck

Got that right...wonder if hes ever seen a shot he didnt like

So I just checked. The last player to wear #30 was Julian Wright.

Lightfoot picking up the junk...love it

Damn chuck

Oh can play some D

He doesnt even look at the hoop

chucky

I'm sorry for not making game threads. This might be the mojo we need back.

@BShark just try to control your pessimism, OK?!

So far ochai looks right at home

@BeddieKU23 I'm keeping him

Julian Wright, Lewis Harrison, Chris Martin, Robert Reed, Adonis Jordan, Greg Dreiling, Ron McHenry, Herb Nboles, Roger Morningstar, Derrick Glanton, Randy Culbertson, John Williams, Lynn Kindred, Gary Padgett, and Bob Crisler have all worn #30.

Bob Crisler was the first to wear #30 in 1954.

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

@Crimsonorblue22

Looks like he could play football. Selden body

@BeddieKU23 u get chuck

approxinfinity said:

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

He had a relationship with Howard.. ugh not working out

BeddieKU23 said:

So far ochai looks like right at home

Yeah he looks fine. Otoh I am not sure why Charlie plays.

If I were Bill (lol) I'd have an 8 man rotation consisting of: Dotson, Grimes, Vick, Garrett, Ochai, Dedric, Dave and Mitch.

I don't really have a problem with any of the coaches in the B12 right now. All pretty classy or inept.

Keep your drib

approxinfinity said:

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

If only there was someone warning everyone else before the season started.

BShark said:

approxinfinity said:

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

If only there was someone warning everyone else before the season started.

Heavy breathing...

Its offensive watching our offense

Yeah

Fran keep him out of your mouth!

Ag. Ba. Ji!

Nice pass, chuck

Dumb play by dot

CHucky got an assist

CHucky got an assist

CHucky got an assist

Yeah chuck made the right play

OCHAI> Moore, KJ

wow not sure how I got the tripple play there

Time for Moore to come out please.

We suddenly feel very athletic

kick that out to the corner, chuck you ball hog

kjayhawks said:

OCHAI> Moore, KJ

Yup

yank him...chucky

Wow moore. 2nd one didny even look

approxinfinity said:

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

He went to the same HS of current KU target Adam Miller. Not sure if they know each other. I watched Miller play the other night. He's really good, top junior in Illinois.

Crowd🗣drown out fran

Play DMac, Bill!

wissox said:

approxinfinity said:

I have nothing nice to say about Charlie. I just hope he's capable of much more than he's shown. Does he have a relationship with a future recruit?

He went to the same HS of current KU target Adam Miller. Not sure if they know each other. I watched Miller play the other night. He's really good, top junior in Illinois.

The only reason to retain Moore is if Miller will come to KU lol

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Play DMac, Bill!

No kidding. No more Chuck ever.

Thanks for the insight guys

Grimes better at the rim than from 3

Q and Ogbaji... We might be Lob City by seasons end

Grimes needs to be able to hit that three.

Looks like we practiced lobs. Nice to see

I have no prob with the KJ Dedric combo on offense

We better get more lobs because we're 1-7 from 3 right now.

There he goes! He's smart for sure!

The Frogs are getting into the paint and close to the rim with the greatest of ease...

I actually like KJ. I know he's slow but he does good things.

Nice play KJ

@DCHawker zone em?

Why does it feel like every shot TCU has made has been luck

@KirkIsMyHinrich can pass well to his bro

wissox said:

We better get more lobs because we're 1-7 from 3 right now.

didnt know whether to upvote your observation or down vote the content

@DCHawker

Not having a 7 foot tank will do that

@BeddieKU23 they've missed the easy shots

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I actually like KJ. I know he's slow but he does good things.

He's fine at the 4.

@KirkIsMyHinrich you might be right that it's not fair to lump KJ and Moore. Moore is a much bigger detriment at his worst than KJ

BShark said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I actually like KJ. I know he's slow but he does good things.

He's fine at the 4.

JJ-lite?

Garret is a bricklayer

I'll like KJ MORE if he hits this ft out the break

Markus Howard is ridiculous and I'm glad he didn't go off against us.

It's been said before but this KU team really lacks shooting. Generally they make it ugly for the other team as well, which is happening again tonight.

@KirkIsMyHinrich

Dotson shut it down. Kid is unreal

@Crimsonorblue22 Maybe - they're not really a 3 pt team, but they are 2-4 (compared to our 1-7)

Old man game battle between Dedric and Samuel

Academic redshirt, does that mean he sits out from academics for a year?

Garrett looked good there

KJ again.

Oops

Anyone w/2 for them?

nice pick by Dlaw but he cant play D much

@BeddieKU23 Doke may not be a shot blocker, but he took up a lot of space. Dedric has no bulk and no hops and he's not quick. Old man game fine on the offensive end, but on defense he just plays like an old man....

You have to be dumb to leave noi open

Zion who? never heard of him.

Stop talking about Duke. God damnit.

Dedric make these jesus

Why are they talking about tray young

Dedric has been struggling from the line lately it sure see,s like to me.

Nice defense, Ochai

DanR said:

Why are they talking about tray young

FRAN

What the hell, KJ

Wow, Marquette and Creighton just combined for 40 points in a 5 minute OT. Marquette by two.

@BShark 🤮

Bad shot kj

@KirkIsMyHinrich Ogbai has quick feet!

This is one of the worst KU teams in history.

Welcome to the game, Vick

Smart there, good D leads to good O

Every 3 we take it feels like it is rushed where as our opponents are getting wide open looks.

Guys just need to be patient and try and slow it down.

It took two Lawsons but they got the steal.

nuleafjhawk said:

This is one of the worst KU teams in history.

You don't remember James Naismith's teams?

Way to finish vick booyya

Me and Bill are going to spend the whole evening with our heads in our hands

We are so fast...need more transition game. It is a strength

@nuleafjhawk Seriously? I don't think we're that bad tbh. I just think we need to play to our strengths on O and improve our D.

@Woodrow

They cant shoot. We have ran out of excuses

@wissox They didn't look as lost. And they hustled more!

nuleafjhawk said:

This is one of the worst KU teams in history.

This team isn't even among Bill's worst teams yet. Let's see where the dust settles.

Yes we can't shoot and we're tragically flawed for the tourney, but this team can still win a tough Big 12. I know that's not the goal, but I'd sure as hell prefer to keep the streak alive than not this year, with very little hope for a tourney run.

@wissox I do. He was the coach before the Titanic sank. I was on that boat. I am the last survivor.

That lineup combo of ochai dedric kj Garrett and Vick is a heck of an athletic team

BShark said:

nuleafjhawk said:

This is one of the worst KU teams in history.

This team isn't even among Bill's worst teams yet. Let's see where the dust settles.

BShark said that?

@approxinfinity I don't know brother, they look pretty bad to me.

@nuleafjhawk I would bet you this team still ends up with a 2 or 3 seed.

I'd like the dunks and layups, please. Supersize that as well.

Too bad we couldn't trade for markus Howard at the deadline

@wissox I had to do a double-take. Lol

Agbaji!

I think Garrett, Grimes, Dotson, Ochai, and DMac would be pretty nasty on defense.

D love it

Good D by Ochai on the big man

1/8 from 3pt...ouch

Yeah, 12.5 % from three is why we aren't up by 12

Robinson just went all chuck on that one

@BeddieKU23 You have to have assets that the other team wants though....

Where is big dave

Dukes traveling circus has nothing on that TCU shot

Fightsongwriter said:

Where is big dave

Self hates him.

Sit Vick. What the hell

@BeddieKU23 lol @ your chuck haterisms so i don't have to.

OK keep him in

@DanR it worked

Vick, I swear

Can't feed Dedric from the top like that

Vick you are a god damn senior. You should know better than to throw stupid entry passes.

Lawson cant elevate over a piece of paper

Vick...just shoot...no passing

The fact that Dedric can't jump over a phonebook really served him well there.

@KirkIsMyHinrich The problem is that I don't think he does know better....

Was Dedric tripped there?

approxinfinity said:

@BeddieKU23 lol @ your chuck haterisms so i don't have to.

Your welcome l, here to pick up the slack

Hey look guys, about to be a 3 possession game.

Let’s see if we can close the half on a little run for once

Hell ya Dedric

Nice! Could it be that we just abandon the 3?

Nice play dedric

OCHAI!!!!!!!

😍😍😍😍

Ochai!!!

I have to ask how the heck did ochai agree to red shirt.

OCHAI

I want a #30 jersey

Vick 2nd leading scorer, tied for tops with Rb but has 4 TOs...

@approxinfinity you're welcome. They were in a complete coma until I started whining

Is it too late to redshirt Chuk?

Ochai smart, not a🏀 hog plays D

@BeddieKU23 More to the point, why was he asked to????

DanR said:

Is it too late to redshirt Chuk?

Not too late to sit him

Fightsongwriter said:

I want a #30 jersey

I still have my Bob Crisler jersey from 1954. I'll just use that one.

YES! This team is actually FUN again! Big Dave!

DMac finally in.

@DCHawker Self said he's improved so much. If he was this good he would have never r shirted him

Ochai should be 6th man from here on out.

Start him

@kjayhawks

He will start soon

About 10 minutes with out Dotson and Q? I'll take it.

@BeddieKU23 woh woh.. I mean, I don't disagree, but your'e all in huh?

Was that debut?

@approxinfinity

All in my friend. It factor. Making guys around him play well too

A bit ragged at times, but I like the intensity

That big sucking sound from the locker room better be Vick pulling his head out of his

DCHawker said:

@BeddieKU23 More to the point, why was he asked to????

Shocking really

5 1/2 point line ... up 9 at half...will take it for now; hope we can sustain and expand in 2nd half

Very lucky Miller missed that 3 before half. Could have killed all momentum

2-10 from 3 and still up 9 at half.

KU only has 6 turnovers. Vick has 4 of them.

@nwhawkfan intensity is all we ask!

Vick with 7 turnovers last game. On pace to "top" that with 4 (of our 6) at half....

DCHawker said:

2-10 from 3 and still up 9 at half.

Marcus's prayer to end really killed the percentage huh

Vick should've had 8!🏀🏀

Doke's a good kid but about as much fun as a battering ram, and slows everything down, not good at kicking out.

Ogbaji smart, plays d, CALM... alternative Vick, and team connector. No jitters man! wow.

We're a different team. The ball will move, the runs can happen. This could all work out.

DanR said:

About 10 minutes with out Dotson and Q? I'll take it.

Really good minutes from KJ, Garrett and Ochai. Garrett is the clear back-up PG imo. So Garrett is the back-up PG and the starting 4. VERSATILE!

@BeddieKU23 just glad he shot it

@BeddieKU23 Good point - without that, we would have been right about our season average.... ;)

Ochai is obviously a keeper.

Ochai looks good so far. So...Why no DMac until the end of the half?

Self mentioned that TCU plays 4, sometimes 5 guards. I hope that's the reason DMac isn't playing much tonight.

DCHawker said:

The Frogs are getting into the paint and close to the rim with the greatest of ease...

Yes, and I fear that will be what life will be like from now on without Doke to protect the rim.

@Hawk8086 Self in love with Dedric and wants to go with teh 4-1 and see what he's got there.

I think Big Dave will play more against certain matchups.

@approxinfinity But, I think I would have put him in over Mitch when Dedric went out.....but Self typically goes with experience.

BShark said:

Really good minutes from KJ, Garrett and Ochai. Garrett is the clear back-up PG imo. So Garrett is the back-up PG and the starting 4. VERSATILE!

Yep. I like this a lot. At the 4 he can focus on defense, at PG focus on distribution.

Did I hear Fran say that one reason why they red shirted Ochai in the first place was so that KJ could get minutes?

Hawk8086 said:

DCHawker said:

The Frogs are getting into the paint and close to the rim with the greatest of ease...

Yes, and I fear that will be what life will be like from now on without Doke to protect the rim.

Oh it will definitely be an issue. The team is still mostly playing solid defense tonight.

approxinfinity said:

BShark said:

Really good minutes from KJ, Garrett and Ochai. Garrett is the clear back-up PG imo. So Garrett is the back-up PG and the starting 4. VERSATILE!

Yep. I like this a lot. At the 4 he can focus on defense, at PG focus on distribution.

Lay-up or pass it for Garrett lol.

@Hawk8086 I wasn't listening to Lucky Charms, that doesn't surprise me though. Surely there were some promises made re: KJ's opportunities when he and Dedric came on.

I wonder how the guys could be ranked in terms of team popularity.

From most popular with his teammates to least, how would you rank the players?

@BShark what is your scotch of choice

Fightsongwriter said:

@BShark what is your scotch of choice

Not drinking tonight which is probably why my posting is mildly less obnoxious.

Sure seemed like Charlie was in there more than four minutes that half

BShark said:

Hawk8086 said:

DCHawker said:

The Frogs are getting into the paint and close to the rim with the greatest of ease...

Yes, and I fear that will be what life will be like from now on without Doke to protect the rim.

Oh it will definitely be an issue. The team is still mostly playing solid defense tonight.

interior defense?

DanR said:

Sure seemed like Charlie was in there more than four minutes that half

4 min too long

I don't know if you guys ever noticed this, probably not, but every time you go to ESPN website there's all kinds of stuff about Duke there.

The lack of Dave I am assuming is because TCU plays 4 guards. Self can’t sit Dedric very much and when he did he went with Mitch in the first half.

Dave will obviously play more in games against teams with 2 bigs. Just going to be a game by game deal with him.

@BShark haha. I think you were hating on the team because we were stuck in the No Fun Zone before Doke -> Ogbaji.

Bwag said:

BShark said:

Hawk8086 said:

DCHawker said:

The Frogs are getting into the paint and close to the rim with the greatest of ease...

Yes, and I fear that will be what life will be like from now on without Doke to protect the rim.

Oh it will definitely be an issue. The team is still mostly playing solid defense tonight.

interior defense?

The biggest issue now is lack of a rim protector. Dedric as the only big is very far from that. Mitch is actually quite good defensively, but as a 5 with 4 other guards, certainly he would run into match-up problems and he is more of a help defender in the paint. Dave has the tools, but is 19.

@wissox Uh - they make sure you can't miss it.....

Garrett takes some shots that are just throwing the ball at the basket.

No concept of putting touch on the ball.

TCU will hammer it inside here on out

At least garrett hit the rim on that prayer.

I mean who shoots layups throwing the ball down at the basket while running at the basket from 5 foot out? Is Marcus aware that the things he does on layups do not look like shots that people make?

Vick now 5 of 7 of our TOs

Rebounders

@Bwag gonna break his record

Can't argue with Fran on that analysis

Every game Dotson does something that reminds me of Frank and for that I'm so thankful he is here

Dotson’s lack of a outside shot is why I am not even remotely concerned about him leaving after this year. He adds that then he’s got something.

Lightfoot for rebounding?

@Bwag Almost another TO on Vick there, threw it at his feet. Slowed the play down, ball rotated slowly to Q, Q tried to make up for the lost half step and makes the charge.

Yes?

Damn it Q

Yes!

I want to go one on one with Grimes.

I would destroy him.

I'm 60 btw

@approxinfinity Im streaming behind you 30 or so seconds...was going to comment on the same

@nuleafjhawk Sorry bro, but my money is on Grimes.

AG. BA. JI!

👊👊👊

Oooo

@wissox Are you watching this game?

Have you watched all season, except for the first game?

He's one exception to my hatred of the "over-rated" chant.

I am in favor of starting Agbaji.

Over Vick.

instant favorite

That's one pure shot

Good D Ochai. No rim protector to bail you out

I thought Vick would step it up because of him

@KirkIsMyHinrich I'm over Vick too

I am ok with him starting with Vick. I want to see if Vick gets his head out of his ass in a 4 guard lineup. I think he might, this game not withstanding.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I am in favor of starting Agbaji.

Dude is just all around solid. Really athletic too.

Ogbaji playing in front of family as well. Has to be one heck of a motivator given the circumstances

His sister could kick Vick's rear

BShark said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I am in favor of starting Agbaji.

Dude is just all around solid. Really athletic too.

And also going to be around for a while.

Not a bad stat line for Ochai - 7 pts, perfect from the field, 2 RBs, 2 steals, an assist and block and no TOs (looking at your LaG)....

Honestly, Vick carried our team in some of those games. i truly hope the kid can get back to where he was in the non-con, hungry, humble, playing in the flow.

Texas Vb player

Don't forget Grimes debut and where he is now. Ogbaji has a lot to prove before he's our savior!

Ochai has been sitting over there on the bench all season saying..."wth...i'm better than that"....

So we kind of have to wonder why Ochai was taking a RS in the first place.

@approxinfinity Hope so too - what % would you place on that???

@BShark he improved

Agbaji leading us in steals too.

DCHawker said:

Not a bad stat line for Ochai - 7 pts, perfect from the field, 2 RBs, 2 steals, an assist and block and no TOs (looking at your LaG)....

I wish Vick could play within himself like Ochai does.

I guess I'd be fine with Vick starting and just standing in the corner.

I thought u said with

@BShark If playing within himself is anything like being in his head, I wouldn't think that was a good thing.....

@BShark I'm gaining confidence in this theory about the Ochai redshirt: he redshirted simply because Vick decided to come back. Going 4 guard allows Self to play them together and not as a replacement.

Guarantee you if that were the other way around Fran would have been lobbying for a foul call.

Garretts defense and quick hands are something

Are you guys assuming that Self has word at this point that SDS is not going to happen and thats why he moved on from the high low after Udoka went down?

DCHawker said:

@BShark If playing within himself is anything like being in his head, I wouldn't think that was a good thing.....

HA! I mean just playing smart and not trying to do too much.

How about some Big Dave to let Dedric get a blow

Ugh

Our bigs can't hold on to the dang 🏀

BeddieKU23 said:

Ugh

Had to know it wouldn't be easy...

@approxinfinity

I think so.

approxinfinity said:

Are you guys assuming that Self has word at this point that SDS is not going to happen and thats why he moved on from the high low after Udoka went down?

I doubt he has anything. It's more likely he just has no confidence in the NCAA coming to a quick resolution with De Sousa.

@approxinfinity don't have a seasoned 5

I really like Ochai on the defensive end too. Moves well and he is big/long so he can be disruptive.

Need a basket off this timeout

BeddieKU23 said:

Need a basket off this timeout

Best in the biz drawing it up, just need the players to execute.

Lob?

Vick stop turning the damn ball over.

Vick, just give it them

Vick set on breaking his own TO record...

Remember when Missouri played the 4-1 and was a 2 seed that lost to Norfolk State in the first round in 2012. We're better than that team right?

Ochai looks completely comfortable. Amazing.

Every time Lawson gets it down low he gets covered up immediately by two or three guys.

Yikes Vick

If Vick doesn't throw it away first

Vick is least seniory senior I can remember.

I'd be OK if the refs just kicked Vick out

Now Vick is trying to start a fight?

We need to get some tape for Fran's mouth.

Good idea Vick. Very lucky he didn't get T-d right there.

what was all that Vick action after the whistle...stupid

Love the hustle young man

@KirkIsMyHinrich We just need to get someone there every game to unplug his mic, or lock him in his motel room or something.

Fran with his eyes closed, yeah that's a foul

OA with the hustle

I can't imagine how short a leash Vick must be on.

Maybe Self was dreaming about pulling Ochai's redshirt for the last month.

Fran dreams of calling a ku game while coaching the other team

OA is no AOC...ooops wrong thread

Jean Claude Van Damme makes me want to buy corn-based chips.

You don't like corn based chips naturally?

Not smart on Vicks part, the guy kinda cold shouldered him and wouldnt give up the ball easily could've been a double T.

Granted, Vick saved us for 3 games early - but he has reverted to the mean - and I mean major head case - no growth since last year....

approxinfinity said:

You don't like corn based chips naturally?

I do but he takes it to another level.

Dont get van dammed, more like dont get franned

I dont get the VanDammned thing...and I was a BLoodsport fan in my younger years

@KirkIsMyHinrich Chuck Norris isn't afraid of death - death is afraid of Chuck Norris.

@BeddieKU23 Kind of like MLB used to have player/managers, but announcer/coach.

travel?

@BeddieKU23 VanFranned :-)

How about that, they just mentioned Duke.

This team is long, disruptive and likes to run.

thanks for the shitty seats camera angle, ESPN

did mccormack pee in the pool?

Fran⚓️🌊⚰️🔚🚬

For as much shit that Marcus gets on offense he flat out plays D and is so active.

Good job, KJ.

@DanR you must think you're watching ESPN++

The lawsons combined vertical is single digits

Garret D there...but whats with the camera angle

Iowa state

Dedric may have gotten away with a travel there but I'll take it.

@Bwag They want to show you the view Vick will have if he keeps playing like this.

Drama queen

At minimum it's a foul

So Och has taken all the majority of Grimes minutes

Jamie Dixon looks like a who from the Grinch.

Cedric can't jump, but his arms have an extra level of extension

Is Dedric the best transfer we've ever had? Withey maybe?

Dedric

Young

I love what I'm seeing today. Thats like 4 turnovers forced in transitions that led to run out opportunities! Just imagine what this team could do with the 4-1 if the shooters could spread the floor for Dedric to iso inside.

Dedricccccccccccccc eating

Dedric in a zone

Remember when we said that Dedric and Doke couldn't coexist.

Wow dedric that was sick

If we even hit 25% from three we'd be up 20

@Crimsonorblue22 That was a great spin move.

@wissox Lester Earl.Sorry.

So many

Dedric is feasting

Nice little run since Vick left the game.

Smart

TWO THREES FOR DEDRIC

He cannot be stopped he can only hope to be contained.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dedric may have gotten away with a travel there but I'll take it.

Looked like a sweet spin to move to me...

Fran speechless

Bwag said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dedric may have gotten away with a travel there but I'll take it.

Looked like a sweet spin to move to me...

Not the spin, the drive before that.

Vick is back in. Come on dude.

wissox said:

Nice little run since Vick left the game.

Vick isn't it these days.

@Crimsonorblue22 F--- Fran

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Fran speechless

FREEZE THIS MOMENT IN TIME

I want Dedric back on the first screen of the Wooden mentions.

Double Double there now

Vick bailed out from what would have been his 7th turnover...

@approxinfinity so does Self

approxinfinity said:

I want Dedric back on the first screen of the Wooden mentions.

Impossible. The first screen is reserved for only Zion.

Vick might have been lucky there

approxinfinity said:

TWO THREES FOR DEDRIC

Miracles man

How can a guy shoot 75% early on the season and 3% the past 8 or 9 games?

Self is trying really hard w/vick

Looked like Vick dribbled into his own face there IMO

Rex walters is up there for best transfer.

@DanR lol

And when we kick Duke's ass in the tournament, I want Zion Williams shaking his head like Wendell Carter after shooting 3-9 with 2 rebounds before fouling out.

Jerrod Haase too

@DanR That's funny. But man, he just needs to not dribble so much.

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

BeddieKU23 said:

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

How else would they make sure we are vomiting?

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

How else would they make sure we are vomiting?

Fran was the main course. I guess they really hate us

@BShark my whole famiily groaned

The guy with the Lakers shirt needs to be thrown out of the building right now.

BeddieKU23 said:

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

Duke Porno?

@BShark they could replay our last game.

Dotson is 0-6 from the field tonight and I still think he has been a net positive. Saran wrap on D.

Dotson, Garrett and Agbaji are all + defenders.

@nuleafjhawk Maybe 'cause he is our version of Hunter S. Thompson????

Bwag said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

Duke Porno?

They said Zion will make a billion dollars in his career, they didnt say how

Only up 7. Get Vick out.

Bwag said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Gotta show that duke promo every 5 minutes

Duke Porno?

1:57 mark. my apologies.

Nice hustle, Dedric.

time to focus guys

So is Grimes cut out of the rotation? He has t played but maybe 10 minutes.

@DanR Other team's strategy should be to just let Vick handle ball...

Every time

Vick did something good!

Fran is so excited for TCU to score or be in position to score

horrible lob pass by TCU thank you

Woodrow said:

So is Grimes cut out of the rotation? He has t played but maybe 10 minutes.

There he is

BeddieKU23 said:

Fran is so excited for TCU to score or be in position to score

And other positions.

Woodrow said:

So is Grimes cut out of the rotation? He has t played but maybe 10 minutes.

This box score is going to be WILD.

If KU holds on, this is totally Bill Self finessing a win.

Good drive and kick by Vick. Gotta hit that Q.

ugghhh

Oh boy.

Ochai back in

Fun game, but total lack of focus since the 6 minute mark. Yuk.

Redic

Here we go.

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory......

@approxinfinity yeah, report you to the administrator...wait, you are the administrator!

We just cannot put teams away. Stop running the offense and throwing up shots. Dedric should touch the ball every time in the paint. Let them foul him.....

Grimes makes that open 3 and it's totally different and of course he didnt come close

@approxinfinity this old man would have....lol

@Bwag lol sorry dude sorry. It blew my mind that they did that skit.. made me wonder what kind of brotherhood they got going on over there...

Why do we let them have those 2 wide open 3 s?

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes makes that open 3 and it's totally different and of course he didnt come close

He has missed a couple super wide open looks.

Seems like Garrett and Dotson have missed 3 layups a piece

nuleafjhawk said:

Here we go.

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory......

TRUST BILL

Here's the bad part about the duke fanaticism of ESPN. I'd really like to watch Zion play because he's quite the phenom, but Duke just sickens me so much that I don't want to watch them.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes makes that open 3 and it's totally different and of course he didnt come close

He has missed a couple super wide open looks.

Pretty much all season every game.

Honestly lucky to be winning right now. TCU is shooting 50% from the field. Kansas is shooting 42.9%.

Is this the worst 3 point shooting team since they invented the line?

Should have been driving and shooting free throws instead of chucking crap

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes makes that open 3 and it's totally different and of course he didnt come close

He has missed a couple super wide open looks.

Pretty much all season every game.

I didn't expect him to light the world on fire but damn, gotta make the open ones. His % is soooo bad especially if you remove the MSU game, might keep him at KU another year.

GO OO

@BeddieKU23 in all fairness, there's a legitimate resin he didn't make that shot.

Because he's not a good basketball player.

@KirkIsMyHinrich And 20% from 3

DanR said:

Should have been driving and shooting free throws instead of chucking crap

TCU is definitely packing the paint. Every opponent will though, so Bill has to finesse.

Hawk8086 said:

Why do we let them have those 2 wide open 3 s?

I commented early in 1st half that we are completely coming from cross court to get out on folks on the perimeter...havent figured out how we are so out of range on D

And 1. Dedric is bailing us out.

Good idea to get it to Dedric though!

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

And 1. Dedric is bailing us out.

Hard carrying yet again.

Bout time!

Ho boy, Garrett.

Come on, Devon.

Good job, Dotson. Freshman!

There is at least 1 TCU fan in the building.

That fan is probably getting beaten up right now.

thanks Fran

expletive.

I think we should start a petition to get Fran removed from our broadcasts.

Cuss

@KirkIsMyHinrich The guy wearing cutoff overall shorts, no shirt and cowboy boots?

Junk man, Garrett

Hey, just got that ball up on the rim Vick, good job

Use clock

Fran wants to see that again guys.

Thats 5 steals in transition, and a bunch of forced travels. I think thats more than like the last 3 weeks.

STFU FRAN

We don't care fran

I agree with FRAN. Shoot me.

Where's that tape

Bang

Ochai to save the day

@DanR FINE, but its just enough. he can vomit his acid diarrhea somewhere else.

Definitely a Euro-step. Wait.

We're in flipping KANSAS

small hop

Dotson with the swat!

Adoke Azabuk who?

Dotson's defense is fired up tonight. He's loving the 4 guard lineup.

DEVON SWATSON!

two in double digit points - only

Derrick Rose is my Dotson comp.

Rock Chalk!

A win is a win in conference play but we needed all of 31 and 14 from Dedric to do it. I’m just not optimistic about this team at all. Hope I am wrong, but I just don’t see it.

KU

Thats the loudest Rock Chalk we've heard all year.

Gotta get better from three, but we can still be a LOT better than tonight. RCJH

Fran shut up

I don't think Jamie has the who Christmas spirit judging by that handshake.

gg boys.

Winning with defense and hustle.

Not a great sign when the RC chant starts when there's only 11 seconds left

He grosses me out

@nuleafjhawk better than none

approxinfinity said:

Thats the loudest Rock Chalk we've heard all year.

but short

@nuleafjhawk Hey, we just lost a starter, added a guy who was redshirted and beat a top 25 team. I'll take a close win.

Our ceiling looks super high!

Agbaji finishing on the floor over Grimes in his first game...WOW!

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Agbaji finishing on the floor over Grimes in his first game...WOW!

Kid can defend, Grimes can't.

Not with out fouling

nuleafjhawk said:

Not a great sign when the RC chant starts when there's only 11 seconds left

but take it for the worst team in history, huh?

@BShark Cj0KCQiA1NbhBRCBARIsAKOTmUvmAXgIViHPuHE37ilRhIA4QXqm2Iq3b_LKJrdNv9gfhLtQifWoHAIaAlOVEALw_wcB

Grimes is tragically bad on D

Big win

You guys get post game?

There must be some subconscious threshold of minutes that Bill can stand to let freshmen guards play

@approxinfinity Love your glass half full attitude. Seriously. This team has some issues but I think we'll be ok.

@Crimsonorblue22 nope

BeddieKU23 said:

Big win

BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY SELF

@Crimsonorblue22 nope. But I'll take the moment of Fran STFU after we won before the camera cut away as my post game coverage.

Only 12 turnovers tonight. Take away Vick and everyone else did much better valuing the ball.

Woodrow said:

Only 12 turnovers tonight. Take away Vick and everyone else did much better valuing the ball.

Yep, Vick had half of those..

Vick's turnovers weren't even forced. Just bonehead stuff.

10 steals, that seems unusually high...OA had 4

I'm going Monday! But, I picked the worst 2 teams KSU and West Virginia, also. I also stole the isu ones so I'm happy about that. Forgot the other one. Think last home game, hoping to celebrate big 12 win.

@approxinfinity silence is golden! We haven't had holly, have we? Love her.

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Baylor and chiefs sat. Tough. That mason kid was tough against isu

Back in the win column

@approxinfinity Dedric is pretty okay

Here is a box score with minutes.

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Dedric played loose today. There will be struggles, but the 4 guard lineup reaped massive rewards.

16 minutes for Grimes and 25 for Och

Over-under on 4 TO's for Vick next game?

Woodrow said:

16 minutes for Grimes and 25 for Och

Fouls played a factor, but man, Agbaji is one of our best three perimeter defenders already...

approxinfinity said:

Over-under on 4 TO's for Vick next game?

Over if he plays at least 20 minutes.

Jesse was way off. Really bad choice!

What did Jesse do?

approxinfinity said:

What did Jesse do?

He predicted the final score at KU 77 TCU 67 lol

He picked Lightfoot for player of the game

@Crimsonorblue22 :rolling_eyes: Mitch hasn't been relevant for like a month now. Surely that was a shot in the dark for fun.

@approxinfinity crazy huh?

Jaylen Fisher might have sunk some 3's on us with the game in the balance. I like the kid, but his absence certainly helped us.

Yeah those 10 steals were fantastic. Thats probably double our season average.

The Iowa State game was 24 TOs to Iowa State's 12. This game was 12 TO's to TCU's 20.

Ochai was a huge help there! Didn't we talk about pressuring them?

Dumb question, who is Steven Davis?

The David McCormack era has begun!

BShark said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Agbaji finishing on the floor over Grimes in his first game...WOW!

Kid can defend, Grimes can't.

Didn't say Agbaji was bad or Grimes was good, just surprised Agbaji actually finished because I definitely wasn't expecting him to look as good as he did tonight.

I think that's about as good as we are capable of playing at this point, shooting 23% from 3 is really what kept TCU in it. The 12 turnovers were a nice improvement, Vick had half them. I'm not sure if he is just trying too hard or what but he's been icey from distance and a turnover machine here lately. If he didnt have the high TO numbers he had a solid floor game. I think you're gonna start seeing the bench get smaller here with Ochai, Mitch and KJ getting most of the bench minutes. Moore has really started to play his way out and I'd be shock if does not only play sparingly but transfer at the end of the season. I'm a little disappointed that David wasn't given any more minutes but I'm not at practice to decide such things.

kjayhawks said:

I think that's about as good as we are capable of playing at this point, shooting 23% from 3 is really what kept TCU in it.

What do you think the ceiling for this team is by tournament time?

@approxinfinity at this point I'd say we be lucky to go past the sweet 16. A lot of depends on how much our guards can improve. You dont see deep runs from teams without excellent guard play. I think people forget how young we really are with Dotson, Grimes and Ochai all being freshmen while KJ, Charlie and Garrett are just sophomores. I'd like to see our post defense improve. If I was coaching on the opposite bench, I'd zone the heck outta us and feed the bigs. TCUs big didnt get anywhere near enough touches when we had no answers for him. I think this team has to find some shooters at some point as well, we seem to go on too many scoring droughts for my liking. Consistent scoring from someone other than Dedric and Vick (only guys in double figures and over half of our points tonight) is a must.

Loyola made the FF. This KU team could lose the first weekend or make the FF and I wouldn't be super shocked. Definitely would be surprised at a FF though...

@kjayhawks Also I'd love to see most of this core of guards stay and develop...but it's 2019...

@BShark Yep that's the beauty of the tournament and also its dark side lol. It dont matter how many stats you look at you never can predict a guy going off for a few games and a few guys going cold. I actually think we could end up looking like a team that's a year away from winning it. I also think a good core of guys will return, we have the possibility of only losing Vick.

@kjayhawks Vick has ALWAYS been a streaky shooter. Best case scenario for KU is that he gets on a hot streak in the NCAA Tournament

Adding ochai gives us another 3 pt shooter.

Ok, just done watching after work on the west coast.
I’ll keep my comments simple tonight...happy we won.

— Ochai!!!! Gotta wonder WTF Self was thinking sitting this kid early on in the season. He looked so smooth and calm. Keep it up!

— I continue to wonder why Vick is allowed to dribble. I cringe when he touches the ball. It rarely ends well.

— We are in for some tight conference games!

HighEliteMajor said:

The David McCormack era has begun!

Starring as Hunter Mickelson

Per Scott Chasen, Dotson is getting over being sick, so that would help explain last night's performance from him.