Here we go

I'm on news it's not on!

Let's go Jayhawks

1 gets cut-away from to show our game...wow...first we beat Tenn now we steal their spot on ESPN

Washington is going to be a bad match up for us...

Grimes

Good shot, Q

Vick hits

Over the back

Washington is so much bigger than Vick. It's going to be a problem all game.

I'm obviously behind

Foul!

Rebounding going about how I expected

Might have to pay Big Dave a little more in this game

Dedric and Grimes got fouled.

We are going to get killed on the boards - gonna have to make shots to stay in this - otherwise it could be a blow out....

The entire kentucky team just fouled out on that possession, but nothing was called. Of course there's already 2 on us.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Foul!

on boards...for Lawson getting beat up and ball knocked away?

Finally

Grimes needed to take that shot strong to the rim...

Walked

If there was ever a game where we needed Silvio...

I like just about all of the shots we've taken...just can't hit them.

defense was set...that gets called but hacking away at our rebounders is a play-on?

Just don’t understand Q right now. That first shot he made off the bounce was pure. Then that 3 was flat and not even close. He also turned down a layup or a chance to go up strong and get fouled.

@Bwag Yes, Lawson was fouled on that 4 rebound possession.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Indeed - going to have to give minutes to Dave and Mitch, just to soak up fouls and at least make them work a little bit. We simply can't stay with them in the post with both Grimes and Vick in the game....

@Hawk8086 already missed 3 shots at the rim. Have to make those.

@DCHawker we need dave to foul a few of them👊💪🏻

Great coaching cal

Dedric needs to be tough

Hey j nobody creamed him

Grimes needs to sit

Ochai!

Ochai is a great 1st shot shooter.

Nice finish, Vick.

Nice boards

Alright Dave. Let’s see some poise.

No!

Kentucky is such a dirty program that we have to change unis at halftime because they've gotten so soiled just from being on the court.

Hagans is doing a very good job of staying in front of Dotson and not letting him get an edge...

@DCHawker agree. Kentucky’s length and athleticism is legit.

I cringe when Marcus fires away from 3

Good defense so far. Need to keep the game at this pace.

They have shot poorly....seems like we should be up by a significant amount.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@DCHawker we need dave to foul a few of them👊💪🏻

Hard

D dot not to shabby either

Whoooooo

Coach cal, coach em up!

Agbaji…..with the offensive rebound and two points.....Lawson....starting to show his 3 pt shooting...Nice!

Big Dave doing great, no herky jerky

I like this lineup. Dave playing composed and smart.

Ochai just impacts the game so much more so than Grimes. We need Grimes to get his head right, but......

The phrase "Kentucky should be investigated" is the #1 typed phrase in the history of the internet.

Forget that Big Dave might actually be able to progress and become valuable by March. Or today...

Be amazed buddy, we got a better coach

Gotta clean up the boards. Kentucky is going to start making shots.

Come on Dave. Two possessions in a row he’s got board for a board. He’s gotta get those.

Dang it

If we could just rebound

D law!

OA our leading scorer

ESPN has the worst camera angles since the peach basket game .

Q out, Dotson in. Let's go

My god Q. Go sit down.

Oh grimes. Interesting take from holly about him being upset.

Who fouled that guy? sure didn't see anything

Ugh...Marcus with the foiled lob pass and then Q with the awful pass...

Q just stinks, but ya I think you have to be touched to get a foul call.

wissox said:

Who fouled that guy? sure didn't see anything

Time for a re-invention of basketball refereeing...

Anytime this games gets separation look for laughable calls.

Vjck got fouled on that rebound.

Dotson!

Way to get it back Marcus. D dot🔥

Whew. Travis absolutely eating our lunch.

Isn't that 2?

6-2 foul disadvantage.

@Woodrow He did at Stanford, as well...

Nobody stopped ball...and then that stupid pass...jeesh.

DCHawker said:

@Woodrow He did at Stanford, as well...

I was there. I remember that.

DCHawker said:

@Woodrow He did at Stanford, as well...

He did one time. Another time Doke swallowed him whole. Too bad he's not playing.

Rebound and make bunnies, we could be up 15

kjayhawks said:

Anytime this games gets separation look for laughable calls.

That foul call on DLaw was ridiculous...straight up, shooter travis jumps into his chest, DLaw not even moving...

Fine that ref

D law just 1

@Bwag Verticality call. DLaw's arms were over his vertical space. I had an issue with him throwing DLaw around to get in position.

Another cheap one called on Dotson. That's his 2nd.

Another phantom foul call.

Travis with 11&6 already.

Another no contact foul.

Reaction whistle...those are just fricken ridiculous

@KirkIsMyHinrich May have to play the rest of the half with Garrett being the primary ballhandler...

7 fouls to 2 so far, that's why opponents call the place rape arena.

kjayhawks said:

7 fouls to 2 so far, that's why opponents call the place rape arena.

People bitch about AFH too. It happens.

7-2 foul disparity is a joke...several phantom calls on us and several no calls on them

Bill needs to ride the refs

Marcus👐🏽

Need to go for blood when they are in that circle...knee to the sternum

Dedric FINALLY gets a call.

Nice work down low DLaw

Thought he took 2 out

Fouls missed!

Herro traveled.

D law

Bilas absolutely right about how we finish - or don't - at the rim...

Bilas "KU needs to get tougher on its' finishes" We could have told you that!

Vick really lucky there. Kansas should have called a timeout.

Vick dribbling that much is almost guaranteed to lead to a TO....

Foul a$$🕳

Announcers even surprised when a call is made on UK

Well, not a good finish to the half....but happy to have a lead.

I hate Travis went to Kentucky

Marcus was 0-6. Need him to get going to have a shot in the second half. Gotta think Kentucky will make some shots.

Also like to see some plays ran to get Vick open shots.

@Woodrow if there wasn't 4 ghost calls on KU you may have a point but there was so...

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Thought he took 2 out

But not out out.

Good half, better than I expected this to go. If we can sure up the rebounding game we have good chance.

Feel fortunate to be up right now. UK 0-8 from 3pt line. They're not a great shooting team, but they will make some. Need to control the pace and, most importantly, make them foul us when we drive....

Better half than I thought KU would have. The inability to have a good finish to a half is frustrating. I did enjoy seeing Garrett run point quite a bit this half, need to keep him running more to take some pressure off of Dotson.

kjayhawks said:

Good half, better than I expected this to go. If we can sure up the rebounding game we have good chance.

we're not going to improve the rebounding game...so what's the real plan?

Hit our shots, get Vick going on perimeter, Bill needs to ride these refs like stink on piles of poo

Interesting..Tech losing by the same 33-30 score at the half.

Iowa St in grey...wierd

I thought d law was hanging on to the ball a lil tougher as game wore on, he's so soft at times. Let's the other team take it from him.

DLaw with 11 & 11...played well

Tech is losing to Arkansas at home. They are really riding the struggle bus lately.

Interesing - we're only down 1 rebound

Difference in the game at the moment is our 3 3Pt's...they were 0-8. Foul shots made even though attempts were not.

Guess thats a thing as well... 4 for 4 for 100% from FT for us

Espn box score has rebounds 26-25 . Sure seems way worse than that.

Ku’s first shot defense has been outstanding.

Nice, show only Kentucky highlights there.

Should we zone them

UK now 1/9 from 3

T him up

LOL, Self was standing in the same spot Cal was.

@wissox he wasn't yet in the refs way

Dang boards

travel

Man we need Silvio

Dok would be feasting this game. Aaaaaargh

Marcus has to make those 5 foot shots.

ESPN: lets see how many weird camera angle shots we can get...

Soft.

Dedric isn't making up for the 7 easy put backes he has given up this far.

Important 2-3 minutes here. Need to put a stop to the momentum. Interested to see what Self draws up here. Need a bucket.

I think UK wakes up and blows this wide open. They are so much stronger and more athletic than us.

hope not. Kentucky is long

Here comes the naysayers

Another cheap foul on Dotson. That's his 3rd.

Travis is killing us.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Awful.

Smooooooth

bULL sHit

@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes, 3 on Dotson...that hurts.

All 3 fouls horse crap on Dotson.

Hawk8086 said:

Travis is killing us.

Need to take him out...

Self has to leave Dotson in. Not sure he can afford to sit him right now.

That’s a flop by Dedric

Soft at the rim. Killing us

Grimes just in times

wissox said:

Soft at the rim. Killing us

hurried at the rim

Tie up

No Jay, it doesn't feel like Kentucky is up by more than 2

More of that from Ochai. Less shooting 3’s

3rd on Dedric.

Woodrow said:

More of that from Ochai. Less shooting 3’s

I'll take hitting 3'z

Dedric actually got a lot of ball there.

I've got 2 on DLaw

12 - 8 foul count

@Bwag he’s 1-3 and the last two haven’t been close

Woodrow said:

@Bwag he’s 1-3 and the last two haven’t been close

1-4

Fooeey

Danger time - fouls may start being an issue. We can't match up with Johnson. Maybe switch to zone for a bit???

Game

Woodrow said:

Woodrow said:

@Bwag he’s 1-3 and the last two haven’t been close

1-4

Not arguing...just saying, we need 3's

Cant miss wide open 3s and shots from point blank range.

3'z were the difference on the scoreboard in first half...

@Bwag same for the second

dylans said:

@Bwag same for the second

True, but for wrong team

Vick the ghost. I have to look hard just to see if he's even in the game.

Gotta score here

Game. When we're losing by 6? Good grief. It's why I dropped out of the chat the other day. Getting tiresome to see some people here who have been running down our team all year. We're all realists. We know this team has deficiencies. Give it a break with the negative crap. This game is far from over.

I miss the KU team that could score 100 without a single theee.

Bwag said:

dylans said:

@Bwag same for the second

True, but for wrong team

Rebounds though are now giving them more attempts...3's we got a 1 point lead

Flagrant.

No fouls on Kentucky. Got it

He fouled Grimes before the shot actually. Had his arm on his chest.

Kick Travis in teh balls

Grimes is allergic to contact....

No more weak ass floaters

Come the F on Q

Grimes not ready.

DCHawker said:

Grimes is allergic to contact....

Get the football blocking pads out and make a gauntlet for him in practices

Awful shot

No Dave

Are you kidding me Dave

I may be in the minority, but I really miss Dok. This team needs Silvio’s strength to advance in March. Dave’s just not quite there yet.

too many of the right folks afraid to shoot

Nice defense

4 stops in a row, but we can’t get a bucket. Hell we can’t even get a good shot.

where's Vick

I guess I still hate Kentucky

@DanR Guess?????

Refs need to get control in this, games getting way too physical

DanR said:

I guess I still hate Kentucky

was it a real question?

I expected a 17 point loss so if we can keep it single digits I'll be happy.

I was ambivalent for a while

But I'm back. Hate em

I hate all announcers, 'cept nick bahe

34% shooting - Not gonna get it

DanR said:

But I'm back. Hate em

As long as they are ahead in all time wins...burn them to the ground

Dedric needs to start looking for an open shooter when they collapse

We'd look a lot better if we hit more threes like that

Nice hustle Dave!

There goes bias again thinking Kentucky is up by more. Maybe he should check the scorebook. Maybe there's a mistake. Maybe we're losing by 20 like ESPN wants us to be.

How bout we pull this out...

T the baby up for running away crying

Bilas needs to give it up, trying to ref

I’m enjoying the break from Fran. I really don’t mind Bilas. Tonight.

Poise guys....

@Bwag He's yet to argue for a call for us though.

Game changer clank, bilas

bullshit calls

Gotta make free throws. Haggans shot might have been the dagger

Woodrow said:

Gotta make free throws. Haggans shot might have been the dagger

5 minutes left

Grimes - great to hit the 3 - but effing take it to the rim....

Shiiiiit the bed Ethel!

Not over

FT% even. Attempts not

Pretty sure Kentuckyand Cal can still piss this one away

@Kcmatt7 he has took some wild shots this half.

Kentucky plus 12 on the glass now.

Bilas talks about the game, he's generally pretty good despite some biases he has. Fran tries to talk about the game but his analysis sucks and he hates Kansas. Dick Vitale and Walton just talk about nonsense and it's awful.

Reid and Washington - 32 points and 24 rebounds. Lawson has no help in the paint...

Tough w/out 2 bigs

Gotta get stops and defensive rebounds because the refs aren't changing how they're calling this game.

@DCHawker yep. That’s the biggest difference.

We need Vick if we're going to win. He seems very passive.

Tex Tech is pulling away, so at least the Big 12 will prevail this year.

Lawson only 4 points this half...Dotson 2

Grimes is the one keeping us in on the scoreboard at the moment...as much as we are

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Tough w/out 2 bigs

Well we don’t even have a mismatch 4 to throw at them. Garrett not able to shoot takes away the advantage.

Why is our top ranked freshman big not ready?

Garrett is doing pretty well considering his size

Not having Doke/SDS is the difference, it'd be blow out city with them. We have trash the whole second and only down 7

Paging Vick

Danny...KU could use a big man coach. Ready to be worshiped again?!?

7 point game, 3 1/2...hmmm

@dylans he's not doing great!

Bwag said:

7 point game, 3 1/2...hmmm

So let's see if the refs start pulling in our direction to keep it a game

@Crimsonorblue22 That’s what is saying...seats hot. Come where it’s not.

Why is Vick passing that up?

@DanR mental

@dylans I meant coaching, we need length

Another crap call.

Vick has to shoot that. Oh well. Over now.

Garrett has been great lately but he is killing us with TOs and missed lay ups.

So is Bill not running plays to get Vick open?

Looked like they both hooked

I'd love someone with coaching insight to explain our offensive strategy...I cant figure it out

Vick isn't taking them

💩 💩 💩 💩

This hook and hold crap has got to stop. Sorry the kid got hurt from purdue. But it's bull crap. Dedric already got a foul called on him.

Is there a duke game on that bilas wants to watch?

R u in a hurry j?

REFEREEING HAS BEEN AWEFUL ALL GAME, ALL KINDS OF MISSED CALLS BUT BY ALL MEANS, MAKE SURE YOU GET THIS FRICKEN CALL RIGHT.

They've outrebounded us by 12 this half. Shoot 35% from the field and 33% from 3 isn't going to win many games....

🐎 💩

That's going to be ball game. This team isn't good enough to overcome this deficit in this environment. Good fight, but the youth and inexperience of this team isn't there to make comebacks this late.

Can't shoot can't win

D dots gots some nasty scratches

Kentucky made shots and KU didn’t down the stretch

Just shoot it like that vick!

I remember when my mom could tell what a flagrant 1 looked like.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

That's going to be ball game. This team isn't good enough to overcome this deficit in this environment. Good fight, but the youth and inexperience of this team isn't there to make comebacks this late.

Doesn"t seem we have an offensive identity that we can establish. They're basically denying the ball to Vick and cant see that we tried all half to really get that going.

And on cue on my delayed feed, Vick hits one.

Length kills us

Weve been down worse against cal. Not over

Hook and hold is a really lame rule.

Hopefully the Seth Davis story of Silvio getting cleared for next Saturday ends up being accurate. His rebounding ability is desperately needed because this is a bad rebounding team.

Beat me to it Texas Hawk 10, I was about to type 'Free Silvio'.

Jeez!

Welcome to the game vick

First defense was solid tonight, just gave up too many put backs and didn't make shots.

Missed throws too

Don't call fouls when we r trying too.

Lack of an offense and lack of rebounding were the killers tonight.

We just don’t have the players to compete with teams who have multiple good bigs. Travis and Washington dictated and dominated the game.

Our winning streak against the blue bloods is over.

All our starters have at least 3 fouls...

Bill Self still hasnt adjusted to outside in mentality. Runnign stuff for Vick now when its too late. Instead, drive ball or get into Lawson. meanwhile, on the ranch, UK packs in and makes it difficult for us.

If he can make that mental switch. We'd have started with lots of action for Vick and brought their defense out, then pushed in and drive woudl have been more effective

ptetty much what I expected. Need Silvio

Need better Offensive plan

size

Just need Dedric to use teammates when doubled, someone has to be open. He had solid line but tried to do too much with wild shots and was beaten badly on the glass for easy points for UK.

Pink and Orange - how hideous is that

I hope this helps Lawson down the rd, get a lil tougher

Don’t shoot the ball well enough to win a game where we are so undersized. Not a good matchup for us.

Kcmatt7 said:

Don’t shoot the ball well enough to win a game where we are so undersized. Not a good matchup for us.

I don't think we run enough action on the perimeter...we did late and Vick ended up with 10 but waaayyyy tooooo laaattte.

Get that going earlier in the half and the rest of the game plan opens up.

Is that on Vick or Self? I put it on Self cause he can call the action and the plays!

About what I expected missing two bigs and playing on the road with youth. It'll be okay.

I realize most on this don't think Calipari can coach - and I despise the guy - but they forced Dedric to have to defend all game long and constantly got it to the right guy on switches to take advantage of mismatches. We didn't adjust...

BMW - A mountain biker takes that drop

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

About what I expected missing two bigs and playing on the road with youth. It'll be okay.

I agree. But we need coach to step up his game. Ran action for Vick too late

Bwag said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Don’t shoot the ball well enough to win a game where we are so undersized. Not a good matchup for us.

I don't think we run enough action on the perimeter...we did late and Vick ended up with 10 but waaayyyy tooooo laaattte.

Get that going earlier in the half and the rest of the game plan opens up.

Is that on Vick or Self? I put it on Self cause he can call the action and the plays!

I agree. At the same time, though, our guards aren’t good passers and and routinely throw each other bad passes. Add in that Vick and Grimes both don’t look to turn the corner on drives and we are just easy to defend.

@Kcmatt7 True...I don't want Vick dribbling too much or rely on his passing...

run action for catch and shoot

@DCHawker they have 8 bigs

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

About what I expected missing two bigs and playing on the road with youth. It'll be okay.

SOS PLZ GIVE US SILVIO NCAA

I said it last game and I'll say it again. Shooting solves the majority of the issues with this team. This is a horrible shooting team.

Haase should probably get more credit for Travis than cal

@Crimsonorblue22 no question he killed us a couple of years ago at Stanford.

Foul and FT disparity is the game...everything else is window dressing. That's 9 point differential since both teams shot similar %.

Refereeing matters

@BigBad Kentucky's not a great shooting team either

Well call me crazy guys but on the overall grand scheme of things - - - - I'm not mad - -OR did I think we played that poor really, call me crazy but this game ACTUALY makes me feel A LITTLE BETTER about us with the league. - -Basically this pretty much boiled down to one thing as far as I'm concerned and that's lack of big men , they just had to many big's -- we had Dedric and he competed hard what was it 19 pts and 14 rebs - -couldn't really ask for much more from one guy.

Sorry but I just can't really get that upset about the outcome of this game , we knew it was going to be a really hard game, - - Dotson played pretty well against Haggans - -Hero for sure didn't hurt us like I was afraid might be the case. - -What did turn out to be true was Travis - -I was afraid he was going to cause us problems -- him and Washington was the two really.

In the overall scheme this doesn't hurt us - I just really wish we could move on from this Silvio thing - -IT IS NOT HAPPENING - the NCAA has their mind set that it will not rule on Silvio till AFTER the year so tiring to listen to announcers talking about what a difference Silvio - -true - -but ain't happening - -let it go. - this didn't hurt us in league any - and really if we play like this I truly feel better in our match ups against Texas Tech - -looking more and more like it's Culver and like announcers have said not much else - -e will see - -ju st can't really complain that much about this game tonight guys.

Bigger disappointment would be for K-Sucks - -they just flat stunk up the place really bad - - Against a 7-10 Texas A&M - mercy what happened to their defense today? - -

22 fouls on ku. 13 on ky. Engineering.

KU was -13 on the glass. That's what KU absolutely has to improve to make any kind of run in March.

BShark said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

About what I expected missing two bigs and playing on the road with youth. It'll be okay.

SOS PLZ GIVE US SILVIO NCAA

need to make your plea a little stronger Bshark - -think these idiots have theIr Bell tones turned down to mute lmao - - ROCK CHALKALL DAY LONG BABY

BigBad said:

I said it last game and I'll say it again. Shooting solves the majority of the issues with this team. This is a horrible shooting team.

TRUE STATEMENT - -YET Kentucky wasn't exactly burning down the house either - -pretty good defense over all. - -OH got to share this

Earlier UK fan said that our Veterans giving their young line up problems - -what the hell is that? - -Our veterans ? - -Grimes - -Freshman - - - -Dotson - - Freshman - - -Grimes Soph - - - Mc Cormack - - Freshman - -we giving their young guys problems -- man let me hit that pipe with ya lol

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BigBad Kentucky's not a great shooting team either

exactly what I just said - -their 3pt shooting was not good I think BOTH team shot in the 30's right?

KU had 9 assists on 23 made baskets. This backs up the KU isn't a good passing team concept.

Another issue I'm seeing with this team is fatigue. Self is essentially at a 6 man rotation at this point. I think this extremely short rotation has contributed to tired legs at the end of games which leads to the inability to stay in front of players on defense and missing shots they were making earlier in the game.

The fix is revealed

@Texas-Hawk-10 did u hear Self say we r to light in the butt? Marcus and Vick usually make those lil floaters and layups around the goal. Marcus looked really bad! Grimes shot the 3 better, but 1 board?

Grimes needs to have more horizontal range on defense. He and Vick need to guard the corner better. Garrett needs to develop a step back floater.

We also tried to outspeed Kentucky. You have to outsmart them with pump fakes and body control. At times they are too quick so it’s impossible to beat them without a little shooting. That said, I think if the whistle was a little more fair, we could have won. There were a lot of non-fouls by us. In addition, a lot of fouling by Kentucky. I did not like that elbow in the face by Kentucky’s player, Ross or Reid or whoever. He looks a lot like Patrick Mahomes, but like a pale, more broseph asshole version. That should have been an ejection. Doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or careless.

We’ll have to get better at shooting.

I at least think Dedric will be stronger w/ the ball on boards. I've been griping about that for awhile.

@Crimsonorblue22 And that 1 board came in the first min of the game (fell right to him so he did nothing), which makes it even worse. Ochai and Vick were in there trying, even if their production was weak. Never once can I recall grimes in there mixing it up. He avoids contact more than a prude at Bob Jones U.

Well, I only caught bits and pieces of the game over my shoulder at work. I hope to watch the DVRd game soon. I guess the result is not all that surprising. Last I looked we were leading at the half. How did Ochai play?

@betterfireE no no no... an elbow to the face is ok it’s the evil hook you have to watch out for.

@jayhawkcsg He had a bad shooting night.