Let's goooooo
Let's Geaux.
Announcer we don't like not announcing tonight
To paraphrase an old poster: Hide Yo Kidz
New uni's
@Crimsonorblue22 me gusta
Big Dave is my hawk to rock!
To paraphrase another poster: "I'm Scared."
Not sure about that stripe
DanR said:
To paraphrase another poster: "I'm Scared."
Wait both those quotes weren't @stupidmichael ? :grin:
@approxinfinity There you go! Our leading scorer!
Dave the difference today
Dynomitehawk was hide yo kidz guy.
@approxinfinity I think Hide Yo Kids was nuleaf? Had Dynomite JJ as an avatar
Wasn't he holding before the shot?
Big Dave is in the house.
Happy learned how to putt? Nice ft Dave!
When Shaka paces people should chant "Waka Shaka Waka Shaka". I mean, I would.
Great ball movement.
Let your hair grow, Shaka.
Nice move Lawson.
Classic carry the ball so the D freezes then run right by them.
Big Dave needs a breather
Grimes can't stay in front of Ramey. :fire:
Great start but it went away quickly.
Dave had a lane open for Grimes and he passed it up. Come on, man.
approxinfinity said:
Grimes can't stay in front of Ramey. :fire:
Least surprising thing ever.
It was a good start then we stopped being aggressive and losing guys on d. Settle down
@BeddieKU23 we stopped scoring too
approxinfinity said:
When Shaka paces people should chant "Waka Shaka Waka Shaka". I mean, I would.
You might be a dork!
@BeddieKU23 Dave, Dedric, and Ochai clanked three in a row though.
I'll take this start over half our games lately.
Dave seem to be limping this game?
Threes are not the answer
@approxinfinity limped it off
We just can't shoot worth a hoot
Looks like a fun group behind the goal!
Charlie sighting
Nice defense that trip.
Prison Mitch the intimidator forces the shot clock violation!
I thought hepa was a girl
Need to get ochai going
approxinfinity said:
Charlie sighting
We all collectively cringe
Need to get all the guards going!
@BeddieKU23 he was on that USA team w/grimes
Are we even mad if Grimes goes pro? Like, w/e.
The long hair braid isnt working
Can someone post a video when Grimes drove the ball to the hoop this year and actually scored?
Wonder why Mitch came in for Dedric instead of Dave... Cedric as one foul, but still.
@joeloveshawks Successful grimes layup vid doesn't exist since high school. I have no idea how he missed that last one that Dave cleaned up.
2/fouls?
I'm old enough to remember when KU had guards that could shoot.
Ewww
Charlie with his 64th shot without looking at the basket
Those kind of non hustle plays dooms a team like ours.
Couldn't happen to a better ref!
Not a fan of Marcus hanging out on the perimeter, sure he's always open there, but ...
Sims traveled
Dedric needs to get his head out of his ass
Bad ball/grinder gear hoops
Good d
Wow...you gotta make that Och
I guess dedric doesnt wanna play
11 points in 5 minutes then uhhhhhh
Were those photos of Dotson from his senior year in high school?
Little late on the foul call ref
Oh sweet, a Zion update. THANKS
On Coleman?
ZSPN is going to show some Zion highlights? What a TREAT!
The only Zion update I want is that they found indisputable evidence that Duke paid him 500,000 to play in Durham.
BShark said:
Oh sweet, a Zion update. THANKS
Just be thankful ESPN didny cancel this game due to Zion coming back
BShark said:
Oh sweet, a Zion update. THANKS
Who could have guessed, ESPN?
Well, we're stone cold again and haven't fallen to 20 down thanks to some decent D, so I think things are actually looking up at this point.
I've never been so unexcited about a fabulous ballplayer in my life.
Zion is going to be a very fat guy in about 4 years. Barkley fat.
F u refs
Wow that could have been one of those hook and hold calls.
Grimes plz
BShark said:
Grimes plz
Cant play
"I went to the Big 12 Tournament and a Pac-12 Tournament game broke out."
Releford
I'm not gonna lie, this is boring uninspired basketball.
Just force feed Dave. Screw it.
Dotson was hacked, no call.
About time for a timeout. We look terrible
Did they show Big Dave the old Richard Scott post-up highlight reel? That was great.
6 points in 9 minutes is not good. #Analysis
Tail slowing him down?
kJ wake up
Grimes dont ever shoot
Grimes gets contact
Just dunk it, Grimes. Good grief.
We really can't guard their pick and roll
Bs
Unbelievable. Terrible drive, worse call.
Terrible call
Refs suck
Screwed that one up big time
Dedric
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Not even close, joe didn't get hit hard enough!
Self needs to get a hold of these refs
Missouri guy Kurtis Seaboldt even said that was a bad call and clearly wasn't off Garrett.
These guys get paid to ref. Its unexcusable
Really need Ochai or Garrett to do something offensively.
Woodrow said:
Really need Ochai or Garrett to do something offensively.
Well it sure isn't going to be a still injured Garrett.
Woodrow said:
Really need Ochai or Garrett to do something offensively.
Garrett playing on one leg. Just a liability on that end
Just rewatched the play before the Timeout. They make a bad pass, the dude has to jump high and reach way back to catch it which makes it look like a foul on us. #refsworsethaneverthisyear.
Big Dave came to play. Dot has had a few plays. Nobody else helping
@Crimsonorblue22 I guess that's what they called.
Freaking foul
He was out
Go to hell refs
Holy shit...refs really are sucking
Dot got tackled
Osetkowski God damn Tackled dotson
Horrible. Dotson tackled by the Longhorn linebacker.
Texas could kill a guy in the paint and there would be no foul called.
Stepped on the line too
Ball doth not lie.
Self, get on those refs or their gonna steal this game
Self is 18 shades of red. Only 25 more to go before he gets pissed
Why wonāt the bigs reset the offense? Black hole down low.
Don't leave febreeze
No blood no foul. Prison rules.
Grimes may shoot blindfolded. Change my mind
You can only play this bad for so long before the inevitable happens
Nice little 7-0 run since the refs decided Kansas no longer deserved to be leading this game.
1-5 (20%) from three as a team. Ridiculous. Grimes is having one of his worst games yet, and that's saying something.
Garrett killed
DavešŖš»
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Garrett killed
Lol at no and one on that
Oh and Charlie made a defense again! I may faint!
I'm shocked that KJ passed that. Good job, dude.
Impressed he went hard on that
Should Self have pressed McCormack into more minutes much earlier?
Chuck steal?
Huge play by Marcus and big dave
What do we have 1.5 starters out there right now?
Absolutely
stoptheflop said:
Should Self have pressed McCormack into more minutes much earlier?
The moment Doke got hurt.
These refs need to find different careers. Way too much contact, even for the big 12
Wow, we're 4-10 on FT's.
Dang Dave. Cant even be mad he has something you cant teach in him
wissox said:
Wow, we're 4-10 on FT's.
About par for the course
Whelp. A tie at halftime. I assume Self is in the locker room piling a truck load of wood to start a bonfire under Dedric's butt.
12-28 from the floor including 1-5 from 3. And tied...
Or is it 4-8. Not sure right now.
BShark said:
12-28 from the floor including 1-5 from 3. And tied...
Zion dunked in layup line tho
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
12-28 from the floor including 1-5 from 3. And tied...
Zion dunked in layup line tho
I just checked and somehow that game went from 32-15 Duke to 34-29.
SOMEONE ALMOST TRIPPED ZION !!!!!
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
12-28 from the floor including 1-5 from 3. And tied...
Zion dunked in layup line tho
I just checked and somehow that game went from 32-15 Duke to 34-29.
Jim started crying at the refs again
They couldn't wait to start talking about Duke. This ESPN is out of control. Do they realize how much Americans are tired of their obsession over Duke?
DanR said:
SOMEONE ALMOST TRIPPED ZION !!!!!
Was he wearing a Nike shoe?
Little dweeb ESPN guy (probably fired after tonight) pointed out that Duke had a guy that tripped a lot.
Our shooting is horrendous...
50% FT; 20% still from 3
Lawson dot and Dave 11/16
Everyone else, you dont wanna know
Ochaji has really tailed off -Glad to see Dave's continued improvement gonna be a good player - -we sure can use him
BeddieKU23 said:
Their paycheck depends on it
Well to try to look at it objectively I'd suppose ESPN would say they're just giving Americans what they want because our ratings are higher when we show Duke/talk about Duke or whatever. Baseball is the same as they force feed America the Yankees. MLB network does the same thing.
Turgeon suffered an embarrassing defeat today when they lost to 13 seed Nebraska which is down to 6 scholarship players because of injuries and suspensions.
OK, let's please play some decent ball in the second half. I know it's asking a lot.
I dislike osetkowski
3 on Lawson. Danger Will Robinson Danger.
Dedrics had about 4 passes deflected for telegraphing
3 on Hayes now
Lawson has some moves that Hayes haven't seen before. Can't guard him.
Go syracuse
Glad we didn't miss the dunk of the year or something because they're showing some kids mom and dad. Besides the ESPN love of Duke they do the stupidest things like that.
FTs erugghhh
Yes! D dot
Hey, we've got nice things now!
Big plays ochai
Let's extend here
Finally hit an open three.
BShark said:
Finally hit an open three.
Dotsons first in weeks. Will take it
Ochai and Dave stepping up big on both ends of the court
Shaka gets talented bigs but they usually only block shots, no O. How does he get them? Doesn't develop them
Bwag said:
Go syracuse
Dont worry coach k will remind the refs their jobs depend on them winning
Give Dot time to wind up that set shot from the corner and he's usually money in the bank
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Shaka gets talented bigs but they usually only block shots, no O. How does he get them? Doesn't develop them
Mitch had a better block % than Bamba.
Jarrett kid is good in the nba. I don't know how he gets them
Talks a good game. But Allen and Bamba are selling the program. Always seems to be 1 elite talent in their back yard each yr.
Austin isn't a bad place to live for a year or two
Damn!š¤©
Wild Giant
@approxinfinity Picked big Dave at the beginning. He's looking good for his pick.
Up 9 is when KU started to suck in the first half so I'm holding onto my butt here
Grimes!
I'd say live game minutes makes a difference in a player's development...Big Dave
Atta boy!
Wow q
David is a revelation.
@BeddieKU23 sweet moves, better than doke
We left osetcrapski wide open and Grimes goes and cans one 3 secs later. That's ice cold
Grimes is shining for a nice stretch here. But that's what makes him such a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma
(as Winston Churchill would say)
I have watched a lot of basketball in my life and I have never seen someone that can shoot with the most confidence in the world and then the complete and utter lack of it in the same game. Itās amazing how Q just goes in and out of the flow of the game.
Betting grimes hits anotha
Plastic cheese sauce on pizza,uggh
Where's our Zion update
BeddieKU23 said:
We left osetcrapski wide open and Grimes goes and cans one 3 secs later. That's ice cold
Personally, I preferred when he took a guarded look with Dedric all over him compared to the open look.
Hayes back in, prepared to foul out.
@Crimsonorblue22 Little Caesars on the streaming ads...
Woodrow said:
I have watched a lot of basketball in my life and I have never seen someone that can shoot with the most confidence in the world and then the complete and utter lack of it in the same game. Itās amazing how Q just goes in and out of the flow of the game.
I was gonna say Selden but he was usually either totally hot or cold from what I remember.
Eww dave
Weak, ref. You been watching this game?
Dave lost at the high post
Big Dave has had some good tap outs to give us new possessions today. Not sure if they count as rebounds, but they're just as valuable.
DanR said:
Weak, ref. You been watching this game?
Complete joke call considering what Texas has done defensively in the paint.
Lol at Grimes free throw jumper. My grandma could do better
BeddieKU23 said:
Lol at Grimes free throw jumper. My grandma could do better
He loves that shot and it NEVER goes in. NEVER. Prove me wrong.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Lol at Grimes free throw jumper. My grandma could do better
He loves that shot and it NEVER goes in. NEVER. Prove me wrong.
He used to have a floater in high school. Guess he watches NBA guys doing fallaways
Ball don't lie etc
But that wasn't a foul on Dedric? LMAO
Uh oh
Marcus!
Throwš³
One ugly side spin shot and an uglier free throw. Good job, Garrett!
Maybe Garrett will get us off of dead center with that play
LAYUP GRIMES!!!!!
Remember when Marcus pretended he was the 2nd coming of Devonte and had back to back big games?
Nice fast break Grimes
Can't leave em
The 2nd half has been more entertaining than the 1st.
Thank God Texas cant shoot
Grimes got hung up under the basket in two consecutive defensive stands...got lucky both times.
How freakishly long are Dedric's hands?
To much dribbling
Crimsonorblue22 said:
To much dribbling
Prevent offense too soon
One thing that self eliminated from the offense that was long over due was the weave. That was the worst
I really wish Dotson would shot more 3s. It would help open his drives. He's 1/1 from 3 tonight.
KU shooting 60% from the floor this half. Much better than the 42% in the first half. #Analysis
DanR said:
How freakishly long are Dedric's hands?
He measured well at the combine 2 yrs ago. Just has grandpa game at the y
stoptheflop said:
I really wish Dotson would shot more 3s. It would help open his drives. He's 1/1 from 3 tonight.
The off the bounce three just isn't a part of his game right now. If he can get it to be, he's gonna have a long NBA career.
ESPN already penciled in Duke for the acc championship
Big Zion Zaturday
Did we miss some pts?
Wrong audience to be talking about Laetner, guys
We're slowly frittering away a semi comfortable margin.
Sucked
Travel
4 on Hayes
That was a brutal 2 minutes. Woof
Damn it! Freaking can't score 3 on 1 twice
My God grimes
Self, how about a TO and calme them down...and on cue
I'd think this timeout would be a good time to show some Zion highlights. Did they lose?
Dedric bad pass too
Good time out self. Roy wouldn't have taken one
I like this announcer pairing.
BShark said:
I like this announcer pairing.
Fran is crying
Gentlemen, let's go. FOCUS.
Yes
That was our play out of a timeout lol
Shake it off, Grimes. That was some good D.
Yeah, nothing but love for Grimes on that sequence. Good effort.
Lawsonš”
Refs trying to tilt the game again.
Ok refs
WOw. I was sure that three was going in. Dot!
He's pushed thru that frosh wall
OK DEVON
What a take Dot!
Lethal eurostep. Dotson's baaaaack
Big time play dot
"Inside Zion W's return" - because we haven't covered every aspect of his injury, his recovery and now his return - #ZSPN
BeddieKU23 said:
Big time play dot
If KU doesn't get hammered, Dotson will lead this team to glory down the road.
Obligatory Joe's Barbecue shot.
Bwag said:
"Inside Zion W's return" - because we haven't covered every aspect of his injury, his recovery and now his return - #ZSPN
Live look in at Zions post game drink, gatorade
BeddieKU23 said:
Bwag said:
"Inside Zion W's return" - because we haven't covered every aspect of his injury, his recovery and now his return - #ZSPN
Live look in at Zions post game drink, gatorade
Have they interviewed his shoes yet?
Grimes has played good D tonight. Just need Ochai to get going again and this team still has a chance
Nike reps took them already to make sure they good
Zion's urine stream seems a little too golden yellow...is he getting enough hydration? -#ZSPN
Ochai had the wide open Q look and turned it down for some reason.
Folks are a little uncomfortable there in the high post...
I mean if you are gonna dare Roach to shoot...
even when not pressured
BShark said:
Ochai had the wide open Q look and turned it down for some reason.
Q is obviously the team cancer now and guys donāt want him to get assist numbers
fritterin this away
Is j hayes projected oad?
Perimeter D is brutal tonight. Whoever that was literally ran away from Roach to give him a wide open look.
approxinfinity said:
Is a hayes projected oad?
4 year guy
I will never understand a point guard getting an open 3 like that
Mom say intentional?
approxinfinity said:
Is j hayes projected oad?
Now he is. Not coming in
I'm not impressed with Hayes
Unfortunate way to end his season.
Oh right I haven't been paying attention to draft boards. He came in looking like a multi-year project.
Great D by Marcus on that drive
Wussy
Lawson hold on to the damn ball
Grimes GET GOOD
Ochai is freaked out by the zone
We`re like matrix dodging bullets here
You can tell before Grimes even shoots it's not going in. Rolling right
DanR said:
Ochai is freaked out by the zone
It came so easy for him at first then other teams game planned for him and he is still a FR of course.
Time to play Hack-A-Hawk.
Long traveled and they get a tie up. Comical
He made 1 ha
Grimes good boards
Grimes wanted to shoot those freebies. I like that.
Keep those texas tv's tuned in
Better
Whatās even more amazing is on the possession before last Self called a pay to free Grimes up for a 3. I mean thereās got to be a better option.
It was good. Would like to see him rip it down not get bailed out by foul call. But he got position and got up.
This could be a really good team in a couple of years.
EXHALE
Survive and advance. Itās March isnāt !?
Survive and advance. RCJH.
Huggy tomorrow. Nothing scarier than playing a team with nothing to lose.
Can we leap KSU for the Midwest 4 seed if we win this thing?
Kcmatt7 said:
Can we leap KSU for the Midwest 4 seed if we win this thing?
3 seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
Somebody hasn't done wade any favors playing him!
Kcmatt7 said:
Can we leap KSU for the Midwest 4 seed if we win this thing?
I would think we could if we win the tournament, maybe even get to a 3 seed. KSU killed its chances of better than 4 IMO with a laughable non conference schedule.
I'm just going to sit back and watch Zion highlights until tomorrow's game.
Why is Ochai still starting? He isn't helping at all on offense. Might as well start Garrett if his ankle will stand the extra minutes.
@Crimsonorblue22 Trae who?
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Can we leap KSU for the Midwest 4 seed if we win this thing?
3 seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
We deserve it, but Iām obviously biased
With Saint Mary's getting in by beating Gonzaga (basically stealing an at large bid). I see no way Texas gets in, they really shouldn't even be in the first 4 out.
kjayhawks said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Can we leap KSU for the Midwest 4 seed if we win this thing?
I would think we could if we win the tournament, maybe even get to a 3 seed. KSU killed its chances of better than 4 IMO with a laughable non conference schedule.
I sort of think the 3 seeds are locked in unless tonightās loss drops TTU behind us
kjayhawks said:
With Saint Mary's getting in by beating Gonzaga (basically stealing an at large bid). I see no way Texas gets in, they really shouldn't even be in the first 4 out.
I don't care what the situation is, 16-16 doesn't get you in ever, period.
Duke's opponents should park an ice cream truck outside Duke's hotel and give away free sundaes. Mark my words, Zion is going balloon up like a blimp in no time. Sherron style.
I really liked our defense tonight for the most part. We looked more like the old high low days with David and Dedric in. Which worked pretty good, if we could some of Grimes and Ochai's perimeter shots to go down. I thought Grimes had some good defensive stops tonight. I'm not sure if Ochai's shin is still bugging him but we are gonna need some outside scoring. We only shot 11 3s tonight, most were good looks.
@Crimsonorblue22 Was kidding about forgetting Trae Young, but I googled Trae Clark. LOL.
I still have ZSPN on and it's embarrassing to watch them break down every move Zion makes. Jesus.
Watching post game
@Crimsonorblue22 how do you get post game?
Cox 22
Not sure what it is in Lawrence or Kc. Is it still on espn plus?
I get pre and post
Cole was just on. What an awesome guy!
Interesting to hear Cole Aldrich say it's all about the National Championship.
@Crimsonorblue22 I cancelled my subscription but I never could find it on there.
How do we handle a much better w v team?
Spectrum Sports channel 30 in KC
@Crimsonorblue22
Q: How do we handle a much better w v team?
A: Have you in attendance!
I still say Texas is foolish for canning Barnes, you'd think making the tournament every year (only missed 1) and getting a conference title every now and then would be fine in football land. The new facility they are building is only to seat 10,000 compared to 16,540 for the Erwin center. The highest avg attendance I could find was when KD was there at just over 14k. Usually I look at road game tickets and Texas and Oklahoma are usually the cheapest. Crazy to think people wouldn't spent $10-$15 to see KD in college. I'd go as a Basketball fan for that price just to see KD.
@kjayhawks Barnes needed to go at Texas. He lost 11+ games his last 4 years (14+ in 3 of those years). He failed to make it past the 1st weekend in his final 6 tournament appearances at Texas and 11 of 16 overall. Texas needed to make a change because they had become very stale under Barnes.
Just because Shaka busted there doesn't mean they weren't wrong for getting rid of Barnes.
West Virginia played out of their mind yesterday. They will come back to earth on 3rd game in 3 days. Banking on it.
Have to rebound tonight and make shots.
It wasn't pretty and Grimes pretty much bricked every open 3/layup he attempted but getting 12 points from him was huge last night. 7-8 from the line was the best he's shown all season long.
Grimes was the best defender yesterday donāt @ me.
@BeddieKU23 There was a stretch there where I was wondering if our set offense was to have Grimes come down and clank a shot. And on cue, the moment Charlie Moore touched the ball he immediately drove and threw up a miss.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 There was a stretch there where I was wondering if our set offense was to have Grimes come down and clank a shot. And on cue, the moment Charlie Moore touched the ball he immediately drove and threw up a miss.
What makes it worse is I don't see anything wrong with Grimes form. It's not like Garrett or Moore's ugly looking side shot. His form looks solid but I'm perplexed why his success rate isn't as high. I guess my expectations were higher then reality for him
@Texas-Hawk-10 That maybe true but I still don't think they can get anyone better with how big Football is down there. Shoot they couldn't even fill the place with KD.
@BeddieKU23 Grimes shot is unbelievably flat. And that is something that can be fixed, just not midseason. For dramatic and not perfect comparison, let's look at just two still photos that I've drawn the ball path on (poorly). One is a tight up Grimes make vs. MSU. Not even Grimes flattest shot. The other is Curry from the opposite side of the floor, very zoomed out. Curry's ball literally made the camera move up to be able to fit the ball in the full video. It would have gone off of the screen had it stayed still. The Apex is probably 15 feet above the rim. Grimes' ball is, at it's apex, maybe 5 feet above the rim?
Now Ray Allen didn't have the biggest arch and he was a great shooter. But he also had the arch that Grimes has on Grimes best shots. Every time. So this seems like a poor approach to take imo.
I personally think Grimes will eventually be a consistent shooter. However, it will likely take an offseason to retrain his brain to shoot with a different arch than he currently has.
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@Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23 Maybe the coaches can work with him on his shot over the summer? Uh, well ... maybe skip that, so says Udoka and Garrett.
HighEliteMajor said:
@Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23 Maybe the coaches can work with him on his shot over the summer? Uh, well ... maybe skip that, so says Udoka and Garrett.
That's if they even get the chance. Still rumblings he's leaving regardless of his season
@HighEliteMajor We have seen improvements from guys. But I do think they are likely from work they do on their own. Mason, Svi, Vick, Ellis, and T-Rob all come to mind as guys that drastically improved their shooting from where they started.
DanR said:
Grimes wanted to shoot those freebies. I like that.
I noticed that as well. Didnāt give it up to Dotson intentionally. I wasnāt pleased at the moment, but if it helps him grow a pair, great.
BeddieKU23 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
@Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23 Maybe the coaches can work with him on his shot over the summer? Uh, well ... maybe skip that, so says Udoka and Garrett.
That's if they even get the chance. Still rumblings he's leaving regardless of his season
This would shock me. He still has so much to gain by coming back as what would be a young Sophomore.
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Shaka will be back.