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What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

I would probably be a nicer person to be around next season!

Then we'll have one of the best big men in the country on our team next season.

If Devon comes back we'll have one of the best point guards in the country next season.

That's a good start.

Kubie said:

I would probably be a nicer person to be around next season!

That was great

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

What if his wrist heals and he all of a sudden makes 75% from the line.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

What if his wrist heals and he all of a sudden makes 75% from the line.

LMAO - - -ahhh you been messing with that funny stuff again huh lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

What if his wrist heals and he all of a sudden makes 75% from the line.

Well, the last part isn't happening.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

What if his wrist heals and he all of a sudden makes 75% from the line.

Well, the last part isn't happening.

I know but staying healthy seems just as likely an uphill battle

The real question is will Self try to start Silvio next to Doke? And who goes to the bench for Hampton to start? #FactsOnly

BShark said:

The real question is will Self try to start Silvio next to Doke? And who goes to the bench for Hampton to start? #FactsOnly

Nah, he’ll be the third big behind Doke and Precious. At this point we don’t have a 2 on the roster sooooo

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

The real question is will Self try to start Silvio next to Doke? And who goes to the bench for Hampton to start? #FactsOnly

Nah, he’ll be the third big behind Doke and Precious. At this point we don’t have a 2 on the roster sooooo

LETSSSS GOOOOOOOOO

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

The real question is will Self try to start Silvio next to Doke? And who goes to the bench for Hampton to start? #FactsOnly

Nah, he’ll be the third big behind Doke and Precious. At this point we don’t have a 2 on the roster sooooo

LETSSSS GOOOOOOOOO

Hypothetically of course

Who's guarding hurt?

@Crimsonorblue22 - the pine?

Fact I didn’t know until today. Doke’s middle name? Timothy. Not what I expected.

@HighEliteMajor Timothy is the patron invoked against stomach and intestinal disorders.

For those who got nauseous when Doke went down for rest of season, let's hope he protects us from ulcers this year.

OK straight up guys no BS - -who think Doke is coming back? - plain and simple. - Yes he does - -OR no he doesn't.

The way things are playing out on him - -I mean you would of thought if he was declaring - he would of announced at the Banquet right? - here it is Friday night and still nothing. - -Sunday Night is the deadline for declaring - - - Plus doesn't look like he would be ready to go for the Combine IF he was invited- -he already knows what he needed to work on -- didn't get a chance to do that this past season due to injury.

So I'm going to come out and say - -Doke is coming back. - -- -Soooooooooo - - bring it - -let me hear from ya -- Yes -- OR - - - No -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I vote Doke is back. @jayballer73

BShark said:

I vote Doke is back. @jayballer73

That's good to hear. - -I don't know I was 100 %sure he was gone for a long time. - -Now I've done a complete 360 - just looking like more and more - - -feeling more and more like Doke will be back , I mean things just don't make sense if he is leaving. - -WHY wouldn't he of announced by now? - - - He seemed to be the most likely TO LEAVE after the season , I mean he has already tested the NBA Combine - -so really no need for him to test Again - -he knows what they told him what he needed to work on - -you would just think he would of come out and announced right away. - -I'm with you buddy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 He is not coming back. Self as good as said so.

Hawk8086 said:

@jayballer73 He is not coming back. Self as good as said so.

Baaaa to much showing that quite possibly he is staying All self said was that he would give his input and Doke will decide - -we shall see - - -We shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Hawk8086 gotta wonder if that's changed?

I think he’s legitimately undecided. Really good arguments on both sides of stay or go.

@FarmerJayhawk I think the injury has made the difference, I know, duh!

FarmerJayhawk said:

I think he’s legitimately undecided. Really good arguments on both sides of stay or go.

Agree.

Newell put this out shortly after this thread got made

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article229425929.html#storylink=twt_staff ↗

"This is also a good time for me to back way off what I said in last week’s Q&A about Azubuike. I said then he was a near-lock to turn pro; that is no longer the case.

Indications now are that Azubuike is seriously considering a return to KU, which is something that was unlikely at best just a week ago. With his hand injury still limiting what he might be able to show in workouts, there’s at least the potential that he sees his best path as returning to Lawrence for one more season to boost his stock."

@BShark what if he gets two spring-loaded bionic wrists that he is able to adjust when going to the foul line?

@jayballer73 Good break down.. I tend to agree with you.

BShark said:

I vote Doke is back. @jayballer73

I second that vote.

just seems also it would of been the best time to announce possibly if he was declaring would of been at the banquet - - I dunno - -give up trying to figure out what goes through these kids minds lol. -- very easily persuaded at this age. - I mean look at it isn't Doke still one of the youngest ones on the roster or he was. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

We were the #1 team in the country when he was healthy and we all know how the season ended with him on the sidelines. He’s a monster difference maker even if he isn’t scoring he requires a lot of effort to guard and was becoming a much better rim protector. If he is back and Devon is back we are 1 good 3 point shooter away from being pretty damn salty.

Well just read a post off Instagram from Doke. - - Said still praying to GOD to lead me to the right decision - - -Still undecided.

Come on Big fella sure could use you. - -get that degree - -come back finish this out -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

3-2 zone with Dave and Doke in back? Let’s make teams match up with us.

He needs someone to throw him the ball 1 foot from the rim. If Dotson isn't here, that's our #1 priority. I'm heartened by the idea that he may return now. Seemingly the first good roster related news we've had since last spring.

wissox said:

He needs someone to throw him the ball 1 foot from the rim. If Dotson isn't here, that's our #1 priority. I'm heartened by the idea that he may return now. Seemingly the first good roster related news we've had since last spring.

If we have Dotson, Ochai, Silvio, and Doke, that’s at least a Big 12 title team. Add Hampton and it’s a Final Four team. I think we’ll get Enaruna too. Still need another guard or two.

@FarmerJayhawk Preferably ones that can shoot 3-pointers.

@jayballer73 Self said something like....I don't think we'll get that chance...….when referring to seeing Doke coming back. That was awhile ago, though.

@jayballer73 Doke coming back would he a HUGE game changer though. Opponents have to account for him so much that it opens things up for the other 4 on the floor.

FarmerJayhawk said:

If we have Dotson, Ochai, Silvio, and Doke, that’s at least a Big 12 title team. Add Hampton and it’s a Final Four team. I think we’ll get Enaruna too. Still need another guard or two.

Not enough consistent outside shooting there. Teams will pack in like crazy. They were starting to do that before Doke got hurt too.

BigBad said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

If we have Dotson, Ochai, Silvio, and Doke, that’s at least a Big 12 title team. Add Hampton and it’s a Final Four team. I think we’ll get Enaruna too. Still need another guard or two.

Not enough consistent outside shooting there. Teams will pack in like crazy. They were starting to do that before Doke got hurt too.

Ochai is going to be a good shooter. Dotson is going to be in the high 30’s from 3. Hampton should be around 35%. Not too shabby.

The percentages don't really tell the story. Confidence is key. Nobody on last years team was a confident shooter other then Grimes and Lawson. Both guys are gone. Hopefully the guys can develop confidence in their shooting abilities.

BeddieKU23 said:

The percentages don't really tell the story. Confidence is key. Nobody on last years team was a confident shooter other then Grimes and Lawson. Both guys are gone. Hopefully the guys can develop confidence in their shooting abilities.

100% agree. I have faith they will. Both Dotson and Ochai have their roles set in stone for next season and will go through the offseason knowing what Self expects and will ask them to do.

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

He would be a badass for sure, but staying healthy is more of a challenge than him being a badass.

" DECISION DEADLINE " - -Doke stays ? - - - Doke Declares ? - - T-Minus 15 hours and 43 minutes. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Doubt we hear until tomorrow. Doke’s a religious kid and probably doesn’t want to interrupt Easter.

Matt Tait posted in the Phog 25 minutes ago - -Doke as of Saturday Night - Has NO WORD yet - Like Matt said - - tick - - tick - - tick. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Bill did say 10 days clears a lot of things up...

Self saying he still hasn’t heard anything. Wonder if Doke is just going to let 10:59 come and go...

FarmerJayhawk said:

Self saying he still hasn’t heard anything. Wonder if Doke is just going to let 10:59 come and go...

I dunno , But my merry go round is spinning back around to me starting to get this sick feeling again.

1st I felt there was no way he was coming back for his Senior year.. - - Then the longer it has gotten with nothing I started feeling more and more every day that there was a good possibility he was coming back - - NOW at the last few hours - just feel he is going to drop a bomb shell and say he was declaring - -and talk about how it was a really tough decision and yada - -yada- -yada - -and I will go in deep deep depression with the way our recruiting has gone and then losing him on top of that. - I hop I am SOOOOO WRONG. - - -less then 3 hours till deadline - like someone said we probably for sure won't hear anything till tommorrow - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well Jeff Long looks like tweeted Check your local listings - - always wanted to say that - - end of May.

I couldn't figure out what the hell he meant by that - totally threw me off. - -Somebody said - -the end of May is the last day a player can withdraw his name from the draft - -would be kind of hinting that Doke is declaring - Hope that's not right. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer73 said:

Well Jeff Long looks like tweeted Check your local listings - - always wanted to say that - - end of May.

I couldn't figure out what the hell he meant by that - totally threw me off. - -Somebody said - -the end of May is the last day a player can withdraw his name from the draft - -would be kind of hinting that Doke is declaring - Hope that's not right. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Just messing with people. Tait is reporting Self hasn't heard a peep from Doke.

Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.

FarmerJayhawk said:

Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.

when will that come out

jayballer73 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.

when will that come out

Monday

Jeez it never fails.

Even if his name isn't on the list I wouldn't jump for joy. He can still use KU and its facilities to get back to health by summer, field offers to play overseas and leave Self and Co high and dry. I'm not saying that's what he'd do but you can't assume anything about how kids do things these days. I hope their is closure soon so that Self isn't held hostage on another roster spot he could be selling to someone.

I would think Self presses him for a commitment one way or the other.

But still no word? Or is the rumor on the street he's going overseas?

@BeddieKU23 doke doesn’t seem to be that kind of kid.

@BeddieKU23 As close to graduation as Doke is, I can't imagine him leaving to go straight overseas without attempting the NBA route first. If he leaves KU this year, it'll be to the NBA. If he doesn't declare, he'll be back for his senior season.

With his injury history, I think Doke most likely makes the jump. The window for being a pro is short, particularly for a guy like Doke that has already experienced lots of injuries. Given his injury history, I doubt that Doke plays much into his 30's. More than likely, he's done professionally by 31 or 32, maybe even sooner.

Because of that, when he's evaluating his pro prospects, the potential of one more year of earnings is huge because he only has maybe 10 or 12 years anyway, possibly fewer than that. That's why I think he is gone. He is on track to graduate, but his pro opportunity window is shrinking (NBA window may already be closed). Doke could have an overseas career that nets him a few million by the time he's done over the course of his career. He's unlikely to ever be a star or net the huge payday, so having an extra year of earnings represents 8%-10% of his total career earning potential. Another injury plagued (free) college year might close that window, too.

I'd love to see him back at KU, but what's best for him and his family is likely to jump to the pros.

So then why couldn't he just declare his intentions by the date he was supposed to. SMH

I guess I'm crazy, but I think he has way more to gain by coming back than leaving. At this moment, he wouldn't make a ton overseas. He could legitimately get drafted though if he can make it through next season healthy.

HE IS BACK!!

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Woodrow said:

HE IS BACK!!

Weird, never would have guessed.

❤️

BShark said:

What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?

2 out of 3 so far. :fingers_crossed_tone2:

LETS FORKING GOOOOOO

no flippin way!!!!

If he can't stay healthy he will need that degree.

@approxinfinity Or maybe he could become a doctor and fix his own boo-boos...

approxinfinity said:

If he can't stay healthy he will need that degree.

Eh

I think HCBS knew BB banquet night that Doke was returning because Coach said he was comfortable with his team for next year. Coach could have told Hurt that Doke would return so make your decision on that information.

This is good news, but it still doesn't fix the problems KU had this year. And that is completely dependent on Doke staying healthy.

justanotherfan said:

This is good news, but it still doesn't fix the problems KU had this year. And that is completely dependent on Doke staying healthy.

No, but we're still in it for a lot of terrific fits. Hampton, Tucker, Holyfield, and Precious. Land one big and one small and those problems are much, much better.

Alright, Silvio's turn.

Kcmatt7 said:

Alright, Silvio's turn.

Appeal's turn*

BShark said:

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1ST good news we have gotten this off season. - -Now with hope that Dotson comes back - -slowly salvage this dam thing yet. - -If we can get Hampton to re-classify and commit here we be all right

Kcmatt7 said:

Alright, Silvio's turn.

I think that he might just get that Appeal - -like you know time served and eligible this coming season - -I know dream - -but hey it's MY DREAM -- let me dream it lmao

@jayballer73 Nice hype video.

I disagree on "getting Hampton to commit and reclassify". Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer73 Nice hype video.

I disagree on "getting Hampton to commit and reclassify". Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.

Na - - simple - - re-classify - -commit period lol

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer73 Nice hype video.

I disagree on "getting Hampton to commit and reclassify". Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.

I'd put a nice chunk of change on Hampton being in 2019. KU or Memphis.

@FarmerJayhawk Agree with this based on what has been said about him and the fact that he is out of TX HS hoops eligibility.

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree with this based on what has been said about him and the fact that he is out of TX HS hoops eligibility.

I will add that prep school is an option if he graduates early. The Anfernee Simons/Thon Maker/Jalen Lecque route.

FarmerJayhawk said:

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer73 Nice hype video.

I disagree on "getting Hampton to commit and reclassify". Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.

I'd put a nice chunk of change on Hampton being in 2019. KU or Memphis.

me too as he said that he was very seriously considering it again

Hmmm , very interesting statement from Coach Self while talking about Doke returning in a statement this afternoon.

Coach Self stated : - - I'm said he ( Doke ) got hurt BUT happy for our program. - Here is what I think is interesting statement:

Coach Self said " IF things fall the way we think they could potentially fall , then this ( Doke ) is a big piece to Anchor what could be a real fun year next season "

Hmmmmm , to me -- this tells me that Coach Self is feeling pretty confident that there very well could some players we are sitting very well with that we don't know - - OR that we do know that they Staff - - is feeling really good about Maybe I'm reading to much in that statement - -BUT then again Maybe I'm not - -Could be he knows something not being mentioned. - -hope I'm seeing this right - -I think we gonna be ok. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 - I suppose Self could be in reference to Grimes and SDS potentially coming back?

Silvio definitely. Grimes definitely not barring a Vick-esque change of heart. Better to focus on Hampton and Tucker.

Silvio has stated he will come back if he wins the appeal. I believe him.

Gorilla72 said:

@jayballer73 - I suppose Self could be in reference to Grimes and SDS potentially coming back?

I don't know - -if it's Silvio for him to make a statement of this , would be like saying they are REALLY confident that Silvio's appeal will win out - just not sure. - Could be about Holiday - -OR Tucker - OR Hampton also. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

We will better next year, line up of Dot (If he returns, which I'd bet heavily on), Garrett, Ocahi, David and Doke, with Mitch, Braun and McBride off the bench. That's if we dont sign anyone else.

Still have to fine another big like no matter what

Thank you, Doke.

I'd bet we'll add a few more pieces before the season starts, but even if we don't our team should be decent. Tucker and Blackshear or maybe Holyfield probably would make us preseason #1.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Doubtful, I bet MSU is preseason #1 and we wont get all of those guys.

kjayhawks said:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Doubtful, I bet MSU is preseason #1 and we wont get all of those guys.

UK would be mine. They’re better than anyone in the backcourt

Somehow now, despite the statements by coaches that they are fine with guys leaving, the spring now has a different recruiting feel. Something tells me Doke was recruited by Self all over again.

If so, job well done.

@kjayhawks Maybe. I think it's still likely that KU will hit on a few more transfers or recruits, and there's an outside shot that Silvio is cleared. To me, Tucker is by far the most important player that KU can add because of his ability to shoot the 3-ball. If we get him I think KU goes from a good team to a team capable of winning a national championship. We'll see what happens. Get to work, Bill.

@HighEliteMajor

Sounds like that was what happened. Devonte was the most recent example of this. Usually has worked out well for both player and fans when this happened.

So the return of Azubuike stunts the development of David McCormack. We'll get 4 years of Dave at least.

Still need a PF even if De Sousa returns. TJ Holyfield with his ability to stretch the floor is ideal.

Need at least 1 more perimeter player that can shoot. Tucker is the big fish to get and is the biggest need outside of a starting 4 man. Otherwise McBride is going to play a ton as a freshman. He may anyway and is a gifted scorer with the type of game this team needs. If Self picks up two perimeter players that means he doesn't expect the freshman guards to contribute in a significant way.

With Azubuike back you can't start Garrett. I don't care how many shots he puts up this summer again that jumper is broken.

De Sousa and Azubuike would be the most athletic front court in the country. Not holding my breathe on that happening although its great to dream.