Looks like Moss will play some tonight.
Gradey Dick visiting per Matt Scott.
Almost go time. Hoping for a better performance and better coaching tonight.
Oh its the zion show all over now
Doke misses both FTs I am stunned.
If Garrett hits that off the bounce... mercy
Lolz on the ball handling
Our bigs suck
BeddieKU23 said:
Our bigs suck
I mean, if the other team is going to double them Bill needs to free up the offense to shoot some damn threes. The answer isn't to keep trying to pound it.
Nice play by devon. Hes looked more energetic today
Greensboro has taken 6 threes in the first 4 minutes. Thankfully only one has went in but I like their approach.
I feel justified in saying that Doke is not good. In four minutes he's missed a dunk, two free throws, had a travel and I know I'm missing one or two other blunders.
@nuleafjhawk heās been bad tonight so far
Offensive offense part 2
Ok we actually just suck.
This team has nothing in the half court.
Moss will probably grade out as our worst defender
Nice marcus
Woodrow said:
This team has nothing in the half court.
I mocked the 85% to make the tournament but honestly...I could see this team being bad enough to miss if Self keeps forcing the Doke Dave line-up.
Good Lordy our offense
Gotta have faith
Tristan take the bench buddy
Marcus Garrett is a bench level player. That he starts and plays big minutes while being a detriment to the team is incredible. I am aware he has 8 of the points tonight so far but my comment stands.
At least we have a lot of options to figure it out
We need some shooters about now
We look so slow slow slow.
If your a freshman trying to get minutes Tristan just committed cardinal sin number 1
@BeddieKU23 bench time
Dotson is playing himself into staying or at the very least not being draftable.
RockChalkinTexas said:
@BeddieKU23 bench time
Was hopeful he would carve a role tonight. Yikes for that thought
Is it cold up there?
39 degrees right now
D dot sweet
Times 2
Better
So it's pronounced Brown?
Greensboro of course playing like they own the place
This will shock you but playing two centers is bad on offense and defense. Get with the times Bill.
Canāt watch but i am not liking what Iām reading here.
Braun is not a guy I would expect to miss fts. Maybe nerves.
Turn over
My lord
I thought Braun was supposed to be a shooter?
Woodrow said:
I thought Braun was supposed to be a shooter?
He's definitely not ready. Yikes.
Nobody on this team knows what their role is.
Their entire offense is on the bench
Good D last posession
@RockChalkinTexas it's pronounced no hustle
Ochai has been very average at best.
Clank clank clank
No continuity
If you can't make open shots I dont know
D much better
Woodrow said:
Ochai has been very average at best.
NBA draft pick though...yeah right.
CLANK
Wilson is clearly not in the rotation
Crimsonorblue22 said:
D much better
Yeah I wonder why hmm
Stop jacking threes
DanR said:
Stop jacking threes
It's better than a turnover at least.
Is mccormack or silvio better?
RockChalkinTexas said:
Is mccormack or silvio better?
Silvio can rebound
They have no choice but to Jack 3, UNCG has 4 guys in the paint at all times. The looks are open, maybe a little quick but we need to make them.
Woodrow said:
Wilson is clearly not in the rotation
I didnāt even see him come in, but looks like he hurt his ankle. Headed to the locker room with trainers.
kjayhawks said:
They have no choice but to Jack 3, UNCG has 4 guys in the paint at all times. The looks are open, maybe a little quick but we need to make them.
Yup. Part of this is on Self but otoh he has missed on some top targets, guys that can shoot. And we know now that missing on guys ain't because of anything he is doing.
@kjayhawks Tristan doesnāt need to jack threes 5 seconds into the possession.... but prob better than turnovers
Clank
Sad defense by moss
Udoka never shoot anything but a dunk again plz and thx
Doke!š
Seen enough of the Isiah wonder
I was told by everyone that Moss was a dead eye shooter...
Mitch would have blocked that layup
Moss = Chuck 2?
Woodrow said:
I was told by everyone that Moss was a dead eye shooter...
Not tonight and charlie moore level defender
@BeddieKU23 bet it's hard to watch
Dave is hard to watch
Shocked Tristan is getting this much time
Rough sequence for Marc G
At least devon has played better tonight but we need more at this point
UNC just looks quicker to me - that and some Ohlay Defense
BeddieKU23 said:
Dave is hard to watch
this team is hard to watch right now
I am shocked Mitch is RS. I will probably say this every game but this team needs him.
Woodrow said:
I was told by everyone that Moss was a dead eye shooter...
we gonna talk poorly and judge after 2 attempts ?
No leadership
Oh boy free throw
Ochai!!!
Much better
BeddieKU23 said:
Ochai!!!
He lives!
Wowza tristan
Wow we just about beat the three team in the country and Iām thinking Iām reading the game thread of some also ran moribund program.
I dont get it PUT A HAND IN HIS FACE
Miller kid can play
BeddieKU23 said:
I dont get it PUT A HAND IN HIS FACE
The one guy they have making shots and no one defends him. Bold move.
Idk if this team will average 70 ppg
Woodrow said:
Miller kid can play
I'd take him on the roster right now. Trade them Moss.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I dont get it PUT A HAND IN HIS FACE
The one guy they have making shots and no one defends him. Bold move.
Including our all world defender
kjayhawks said:
Idk if this team will average 70 ppg
Not likely
Foul Devon. Thanks
Saves them from running o
UNCG version of Marc G lighting us up.
Coach is going to earn his salary this year
Thankfully they can't really shoot either.
Itās early in the season, Iād compare this to the 2006 team early in the season but that team had much more overall talent
Playing defense properly and rebounding require DESIRE and EFFORT
Dickey's 'do looks like a tribute to Devil's Tower.
DeDot
Tristan just ooooozes potential. Hope we get to see it realized at KU.
Turnover at the line
@nwhawkfan Close Encounters of the Third Kind
BShark said:
Tristan just ooooozes potential. Hope we get to see it realized at KU.
Love his game. He just has that look. No expression, but you know he is bringing it.
BeddieKU23 said:
Turnover at the line
Bill's fault.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Turnover at the line
Bill's fault.
Devon had a layup
Hudy leaving have anything to do with it?
Hell of a half Dotson. 14 points, 5 boards, 3 assists, and ZERO turnovers
@BeddieKU23 I meant for having doke out there. If I'm UNCG I foul him every time late half situations.
Love Silvio but he cant shoot from 2 feet
7-16 from the line is brutal. Gotta improve on that . Only 4 turnovers though.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 I meant for having doke out there. If I'm UNCG I foul him every time late half situations.
Yeah I get that too. Bad decision on both
They got 4 guys w/2 fouls too
BeddieKU23 said:
Love Silvio but he cant shoot from 2 feet
I'm off of playing two centers at once and very off of them shooting jumpers.
I got my ticket for when they come in January!!!!
Woodrow said:
7-16 from the line is brutal. Gotta improve on that . Only 4 turnovers though.
I'll take this over the turnovers for sure. We know this roster is going to have bad shooting nights whereas the turnovers were mainly mental and poor execution.
Well, at least we cut down the turnovers. Pretty much everything else sucked, though.
@Crimsonorblue22 He is the only one I am kinda interested in shooting outside of 1 foot. And he should still be the only center in the game when in.
@nwhawkfan we had some good defensive stops
Oh duke promo
nwhawkfan said:
Well, at least we cut down the turnovers. Pretty much everything else sucked, though.
Defense had a few lapses but was mostly a good effort. Hopefully the 2nd half is better, hit some damn fts and maybe pull away a bit.
Full on rat face interview. Great
Want to see some turnovers and fast breaks
well at least we taking a lot better ball control tonight compared to 18 in the 1st half against Duke.
I think thye got the word about having to take more 3's -- only thing is - - might want to take AND MAKE some to go along with taking lol
Doke's effort has disappointed me the most so far. Maybe he just doesn't have much of a motor.
Let me ask think this has been discussed before. - - I know but when Doke shoots his free throws do we actually helps him for the fans to get all worked up when he goes to shoot? - -or do it just put more pressure on him
Doke gets frustrated when he can't do what he wants to do
@jayballer73 I know he doesn't like it
@jayballer73 Doke shoots equally bad freebies on the road, so it's not the dead silence of AFH that rattles him
BShark said:
nwhawkfan said:
Well, at least we cut down the turnovers. Pretty much everything else sucked, though.
Defense had a few lapses but was mostly a good effort. Hopefully the 2nd half is better, hit some damn fts and maybe pull away a bit.
Neither team is exactly burning up the FT line. A combined 8 for 21.
DanR said:
@jayballer73 Doke shoots equally bad freebies on the road, so it's not the dead silence of AFH that rattles him
bad everywhere such a mental thing - -I thought when he hit 2-3 the other night MAYBE - - JUST MAYBE
Just happy d dot shooting 3's
Ochai finally had the lid come off too, so maybe Moss can hit one and we'll get the wide open threes to fall
Braun is suppose to be a hustler, he kinda just watched the other guy take his ball.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Just happy d dot shooting 3's
We need better passing from Dot and Garrett on drives. Might come in time. Miss that from Graham.
Big Dave seems to have turned down the motor a little too much from last year.
@Crimsonorblue22 It looked like maybe Braun didn't know anyone else was going after that loose ball
I hear Mahomes is playing Sunday. UT had what looked like about 5000 people at their opener. Erwin Center was rated worst in big 12.
Maybe one to doke
someone let me know when the game is back on. I'm having to stream to the TV via my laptop, so I'm trying to cram all my comments in here at halftime.
So far Doke has 7 shot attempts on the season in a game and 1/2 -- THAT'S not gonna work. - -either he has to work harder to establish - -Or they got to work harder to get the ball to him.
I think when it's all said and done Tristan well be a good player for us -- long arms - - gonna be ok
DanR said:
someone let me know when the game is back on. I'm having to stream to the TV via my laptop, so I'm trying to cram all my comments in here at halftime.
game on
@jayballer73 need to get the old tape of Richard Scott posting up and show it to Doke
jayballer73 said:
So far Doke has 7 shot attempts on the season in a game and 1/2 -- THAT'S not gonna work. - -either he has to work harder to establish - -Or they got to work harder to get the ball to him.
I think when it's all said and done Tristan well be a good player for us -- long arms - - gonna be ok
I think it's going to take creating for Doke. He's never been able to create offense for himself by just giving him the ball.
Dot cookin
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I want this shirt, who's getting this for me?
Bet they heard about it at halftime
Better so far...
Yeah!
He looks afraid to move- injury
Did Ochai just air all a short corner 3 ?
Whatcha saying about moss now?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
He looks afraid to move- injury
Agree clearly still hurt. Trooper for being willing to play since we need him.
RockChalkinTexas said:
Whatcha saying about moss now?
Heās shooting 33% š
Moss finally
do we need to play 4 out - - 1 in? - lot better spacing/flow - -D oke can still be aggressive with back up of Desousa an Mc Cormack
He looked comfortable there
Woodrow said:
RockChalkinTexas said:
Whatcha saying about moss now?
Heās shooting 33% š
3 shots - -way to early to judge
Apparently that was a 2 for Moss.
jayballer73 said:
do we need to play 4 out - - 1 in? - lot better spacing/flow - -D oke can still be aggressive with back up of Desousa an Mc Cormack
YES
@RockChalkinTexas he does now, for sureš¤£š°
BShark said:
Apparently that was a 2 for Moss.
looked like a 3 - - guess not
Good thing he didn't dive on that loose š
That's how we looked last game
Boat racing them with 1 big hmmmmm
So much more fluid
BShark said:
Boat racing them with 1 big hmmmmm
This might be the death of the 2 big lineup
No freshman out there
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Isaiah Moss
Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Boat racing them with 1 big hmmmmm
This might be the death of the 2 big lineup
Praying for this every day
Umm Uh oh - - -MOSS
Nice stuff when you make em
GOT to go 4 out - -just looks so much more fluid
Greensboro dude just walked. How's that a foul
BeddieKU23 said:
Greensboro dude just walked. How's that a foul
saw that
Wilson is on crutches . Canāt be good.
And a boot
BeddieKU23 said:
Greensboro dude just walked. How's that a foul
Refs have the spread in mind now okay?
oh hell I hadn't noticed -- wondered why he hadn't touched the floor
@Crimsonorblue22 oh no. He never went in. I was watching.
Gonna give up some rebounding but have to have 4 out
@RockChalkinTexas he went on the court right before a commercial break and wasnāt out there when they came back
Iām gonna go out on a limb and say Moss would have made a difference on Tuesday.
Woodrow said:
Iām gonna go out on a limb and say Moss would have made a difference on Tuesday.
We need him healthy. Thank goodness for a week until the next game.
Starting to wonder if SDS is going to be in the rotation
Marcus!šŖš½
Bryce behind bench?
Woodrow said:
Starting to wonder if SDS is going to be in the rotation
If we are going 4 out full time he looks like the 3rd guy to me.
Wilson doesn't look good
Nice Tristan
BeddieKU23 said:
Nice Tristan
Killer
Dutchboy
What's Silvio doing killing the backboard
In the paint
That's on Silvio
MOSS
Ok. I like Moss!
Silvio is snake bit. Needs something good to happen.
Enaruna gonna be ok
Where did Silvio's touch go
Woodrow said:
Ok. I like Moss!
Had to warm up
In jail for a year
jayballer73 said:
Enaruna gonna be ok
Lottery pick eventually.
Anybody seen Bryce Thompson? He and his family were supposed to be there
@RockChalkinTexas I think behind bench
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Enaruna gonna be ok
Lottery pick eventually.
you can tell just really athletic
RockChalkinTexas said:
Anybody seen Bryce Thompson? Hs and his family were supposed to be there
He has great seats near the KU bench.
RockChalkinTexas said:
Anybody seen Bryce Thompson? Hs and his family were supposed to be there
Hanging out in the lounge picking out his locker
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Enaruna gonna be ok
Lottery pick eventually.
you can tell just really athletic
Yessir. Just needs a jumper and he will have an NBA career. Loooong too.
@BeddieKU23 hope so
Liking the hustle so far this half. At both ends.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Enaruna gonna be ok
Lottery pick eventually.
you can tell just really athletic
Yessir. Just needs a jumper and he will have an NBA career. Loooong too.
very long
ya think the guys like the 4 out a lot better lol
RockChalkinTexas said:
Anybody seen Bryce Thompson? He and his family were supposed to be there
Heās in a Red sweatshirt right behind the bench
Nice zone O
He got that down!
Way to feed the man!
And 1
Wowza Doke
Okay I've been shitting on Bill. Credit to him for making the call and changing the offense.
Mercy - - take it to the rack BIG FELLA
Woodrow said:
Wowza Doke
woooozaaaa INDEED
Dedrick playing for Austin Spurs!
Huge dunk
@BeddieKU23 shaking off the rust, gaining some confidence
BeddieKU23 said:
Game changer for sure. Shots going in helps
Well, when you play enough guys that can shoot that should happen. Garrett and two centers can just never work.
Moss should start when healthy. I'd roll out Dot, Moss, Ochai, Garrett, Doke as the starting 5. Enaruna needs big minutes off the bench.
We got 3 5's to wear other big's down
Pretty sure this is the first time Dotson has come out of the game
Feed him!
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Feed him!
Doke thrives with better spacing as the only big.
Saw where wiggs had 40 pts in ot win
OKAY TRISTAN DAAAAMNNNN SON :snowflake:
Tower hair is helping us out
I would think we have our answer on how to play -- but you never know
Think this game will help them get some confidence?
jayballer73 said:
I would think we have our answer on how to play -- but you never know
I know Self is stubborn but unless another team has two bigs I canāt seem him going back.
Need to see more inside-outside movement, and not so many quick threes.
Air Ochai
RockChalkinTexas said:
Think this game will help them get some confidence?
got to
@jayballer73 the hair
Night all. Stay safe. Gotta get my palm trees wrapped up this weekend. Freezing temperatures due here for several days.
Plenty to work on. Need to keep the pedal down on our next couple of opponents...a little easier road before we head to Maui.
nwhawkfan said:
Plenty to work on. Need to keep the pedal down on our next couple of opponents...a little easier road before we head to Maui.
Yep yep. Bottle the first 12 minutes of the second half. That was GREAT.
RockChalkinTexas said:
Night all. Stay safe. Gotta get my palm trees wrapped up this weekend. Freezing temperatures due here for several days.
have a great weekend
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Feed him!
Doke thrives with better spacing as the only big.
I think it's two fold. He is most effective with space and teams cant defend him if he gets position with the space so it really has a impact on multiple fronts
Doke 10 points - - 10 rebounds
Moss and Enaruna will continue to make this team better.
COHawk said:
Moss and Enaruna will continue to make this team better.
Enaruna - -tallied 9 points tonight - not sure how many rebounds - -he gonna be all right - - give him just a little time -- Moss with 8 all in the 2nd half - -when he started half
Tristan is really disruptive on D and can still easily get better on both ends.
Here is a thought - -we have heard here and there about moss on some -- off some - - so Question - - Maybe Moss felt a little more pressure to /score at Iowa - -little less effective - -maybe playing with other outside flexible talented guys - -maybe more at ease and NOT as much pressure - -could be huge help
Too old to remember how Frank was as a leader when he was a soph. Do believe that Devon will get there once all of these guys get more comfortable playing together. It's easy to get down on them when we expect so much. They all want to do well and perhaps are trying too hard at times.
Dam Jalen broke his ankle
COHawk said:
Too old to remember how Frank was as a leader when he was a soph. Do believe that Devon will get there once all of these guys get more comfortable playing together. It's easy to get down on them when we expect so much. They all want to do well and perhaps are trying too hard at times.
Dotson is pretty easily ahead of Mason's trajectory at this point. The issue is we probably don't get to see him as a JR. Mason became very good his JR year and then obviously a superstar as a SR.
True. I do think he needs to be more of a true floor leader before finding success at the next level.
jayballer73 said:
Dam Jalen broke his ankle
Doing what??
Frank needs to talk with him
Or Devonte.
In today's world of instant gratification, it still is amazing that both of those guys came back for the final year.
Not to change the subject, but Baylor just blew a 15-point second half lead to lose to a good but young Washington team.
So much for that top-25 ranking. Still, it's a long season.
@nwhawkfan saw that, big 12 looking down this year so far.
@kjayhawks Normally I'd root for UW since they're the local favorites here, but the Baylor loss could well affect KU's power rankings.
@BShark That's probably our best 5, at least against most teams, and it looks like Enaruna will get the bulk of the perimeter sub minutes. Therein lies a problem. 2 games in and it looks like HCBS has already settled on his 6-1/2 man rotation. So much for depth....
I noted right after the Duke game that both Garrett and Dotson had played 38 minutes, and that wasn't sustainable over the course of the season. Then HCBS said the same thing in one of his pressers. But that's what happened again last night. Unless we're playing a cupcake, does anyone see that changing?
Right now, it looks like Dotson, Ochai, and Garrett will get 36+ minutes a game, Moss around 30 and Doke around 28 (barring foul trouble). Dave and Silvio will combine for just 15-18, and Enaruna will get almost all of the available perimeter minutes, unless Braun really picks it up.
Anyone see anything different???
Just read some post game quotes and Self said he will continue to start two bigs. I still think / hope the 4 guard lineup will be what we see the majority of the time.
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Need another guard to show up for depth if the 4-1 is going to be played much. Too bad McBride wasnāt up to snuff. Did Harris redshirt?
dylans said:
Need another guard to show up for depth if the 4-1 is going to be played much. Too bad McBride wasnāt up to snuff. Did Harris redshirt?
Harris is on the Jamari/Ben plan. Otherwise I think we could use him some.
The rumors floating around about McBride are not good. Sounds like he just simply quit. Not even sure if he will continue to play basketball or not.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
Dam Jalen broke his ankle
Doing what??
that's what I couldn't figure out -- only on the court for 27 seconds - -just a plain simple cut when running through a set
PER after game 2 saw much better results.
Dotson rebounded from Game 1 with a 12 pt increase from 8 to 20.5
Enaruna jumped 13.3 to 19.7
Agbaji holding steady at 15.4
Azubuike almost doubled to 15.4 (still well below his average)
Garrett marginally improved to 12.8 (from 12.4) & still around career avg.
McCormack slightly up to 9.9
Moss debuts with a 9.9 (below average for him) but still not 100% so we'll see where he goes from here.
De Sousa crated.
Braun is negative after 2 games.
@BeddieKU23 Hopefully Doke comes along. If Garrett hovers around 13 he is definitely worth playing imo.
Moss was definitely laboring out there, could barely move.
@BeddieKU23 his shot is still pretty mechanical but if it can at least to in when he is open that changes a lot.
UNCG is at least a pretty good team. PER numbers will probably be bloated against Monmouth.
If Moss is still hobbling we should play him as little as possible.