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Dayton Game Thread
Nov 27, 2019 08:54 PM #1

Ohio sucks. We good.

Nov 27, 2019 08:55 PM #2

Jay Bilious at one point exclaimed that Dayton was the best team in this tournament. I'm looking forward to making him eat that vomit.

Nov 27, 2019 09:16 PM #3

@approxinfinity

Hopefully he eats that crow. Toppin is the real deal

Nov 27, 2019 09:24 PM #4

Folks always get a little too giddy about mid-majors that look good.

Nov 27, 2019 09:36 PM #5

What is the deal today with Bilas ? - - Now he says that if KU beats Dayton today should be considered a little bit of an upset? -What the frick has he been smokin today? - - then he says right now Dayton is the better player.

Man I hope we come out and just play the under dog role and just smoke the nets

Nov 27, 2019 09:41 PM #6

@jayballer73

He's pissed because of Duke's loss to SFA at HOME and broke a streak going back 20 years or so...

Nov 27, 2019 09:46 PM #7

Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.

Nov 27, 2019 09:49 PM #8

stoptheflop said:

Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.

true , however fatigue will also play a factor for Dayton. - Listening to pre-game - -I myself think might be making a mistake. - - He is talking like he playing to bigs again today.

I think we need to start and play with the 4 around one today against a team like Dayton - -hope I'm wrong

Nov 27, 2019 09:50 PM #9

@jayballer73 We may need to play 4 guards, but coach has his starting lineup set and it includes two bigs.

Nov 27, 2019 09:58 PM #10

@jayballer73

Rankings aside he probably isnt wrong, Dayton has played really well the first two days.

Nov 27, 2019 09:59 PM #11

stoptheflop said:

Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.

That could have been avoided by sitting Dotson and the guards earlier when the result was not in doubt

Nov 27, 2019 10:00 PM #12

Self said the 2 bigs O is not very good and not long for this world. We'll see.

Nov 27, 2019 10:00 PM #13

This game is almost a coin toss but slightly in KU's favor. Based on the point spread and advanced stats anyway.

Nov 27, 2019 10:04 PM #14

approxinfinity said:

Self said the 2 bigs O is not very good and not long for this world. We'll see.

I think it would be just fine with Silvio at the four. Better passer and driver; quicker; good with the ball.

Nov 27, 2019 10:05 PM #15

Yeah we need to adjust on D.

Nov 27, 2019 10:06 PM #16

Joke

Nov 27, 2019 10:07 PM #17

Nice pass

Nov 27, 2019 10:07 PM #18

We are going to grind these kids down.

Nov 27, 2019 10:07 PM #19

Floppy boi Landers

Nov 27, 2019 10:07 PM #20

Do we really need to double toppin?

Nov 27, 2019 10:08 PM #21

Oh man. DEVON IS BALLIN!

Nov 27, 2019 10:09 PM #22

approxinfinity said:

Do we really need to double toppin?

Nope but kids are just over aware of him

Nov 27, 2019 10:09 PM #23

Devon with that slam in transition he means BIDNESS

Nov 27, 2019 10:10 PM #24

That's some All American fire.

Nov 27, 2019 10:10 PM #25

This game is lit. We need to guard the three point line better though.

Nov 27, 2019 10:10 PM #26

BShark said:

This game is lit. We need to guard the three point line better though.

Over helping as usual. They could miss a few too.

Nov 27, 2019 10:11 PM #27

Grind. These. Kids. Down.

Nov 27, 2019 10:12 PM #28

Marcus make your layup

Nov 27, 2019 10:12 PM #29

At least he has improved at the line

Nov 27, 2019 10:13 PM #30

Self is saying it won't be Toppin to beat us.

Nov 27, 2019 10:13 PM #31

Why are we triple teaming. Just gonna be catch and shoot

Nov 27, 2019 10:14 PM #32

tf was that shot from Dayton and it goes in of course

Nov 27, 2019 10:14 PM #33

How do you miss that badly from 3 feet

Nov 27, 2019 10:14 PM #34

Devon is the f'n Gingerbread man.

Nov 27, 2019 10:15 PM #35

Devon

Nov 27, 2019 10:15 PM #36

Dave MAKE THAT

Nov 27, 2019 10:17 PM #37

Ugh

Nov 27, 2019 10:18 PM #38

Here it is. Moss / Enaruna in the 4 guard with game in balance.

Nov 27, 2019 10:18 PM #39

THIS IS A GREAT BASKETBALL GAME

Nov 27, 2019 10:20 PM #40

BShark said:

THIS IS A GREAT BASKETBALL GAME

Unreal pace and feel this game. Loving how Devon and Azubuike are bringing the heat

Nov 27, 2019 10:20 PM #41

It's been many years since the defense has been this good.

Nov 27, 2019 10:23 PM #42

35 mugged dotson gtfo

Nov 27, 2019 10:24 PM #43

Dotson came to hoop today gang

Nov 27, 2019 10:24 PM #44

Big Time

Nov 27, 2019 10:26 PM #45

Devon Marcus Doke playing like vets.

Nov 27, 2019 10:27 PM #46

Honestly a smart foul by Dayton. Doke will go 0-1 on this lol

Nov 27, 2019 10:27 PM #47

Ooooooo doke

Nov 27, 2019 10:27 PM #48

Wow

Nov 27, 2019 10:28 PM #49

I mean sure, give their best shooter a wide open three

Nov 27, 2019 10:28 PM #50

Dumb

Nov 27, 2019 10:29 PM #51

It's a good foul stop crying watson

Nov 27, 2019 10:29 PM #52

Obvious foul and Dayton chud fans are booing

Nov 27, 2019 10:30 PM #53

Bull Crap

Nov 27, 2019 10:31 PM #54

The slow down is here

Nov 27, 2019 10:32 PM #55

Jeez Marcus just said I'll charlie moore that one

Nov 27, 2019 10:32 PM #56

Dave traveled but that white guy for Dayton didn't :thinking_face: :thinking_face: :thinking_face:

Nov 27, 2019 10:34 PM #57

BShark said:

Dave traveled but that white guy for Dayton didn't :thinking_face: :thinking_face: :thinking_face:

I thought that last play was off dave, call it even?

Nov 27, 2019 10:35 PM #58

CLOWN CALL

Nov 27, 2019 10:35 PM #59

Doke got fouled and gets called OKAY

Nov 27, 2019 10:35 PM #60

F this ref

Nov 27, 2019 10:36 PM #61

Toppin flopped

Nov 27, 2019 10:36 PM #62

Floppin Toppin

Nov 27, 2019 10:36 PM #63

Jeez Silvio

Nov 27, 2019 10:37 PM #64

Agbaji missed horrible on that 3 too. Just so inconsistent

Nov 27, 2019 10:37 PM #65

nice block, ochai

Nov 27, 2019 10:37 PM #66

Wow great block

Nov 27, 2019 10:38 PM #67

all right, bigs had their chance. Drive the guards again

Nov 27, 2019 10:38 PM #68

This ref is just dying to call travels on Dave. Very quick whistle.

Nov 27, 2019 10:38 PM #69

I dont want Dave touching the ball

Nov 27, 2019 10:39 PM #70

Well that's just the product of dumb basketball

Nov 27, 2019 10:39 PM #71

I knew this team couldn't keep up the offensive pace from the first 8 minutes. Thankfully we started getting some stops too. Going to be a battle.

Nov 27, 2019 10:39 PM #72

"Lottery pick" with his first bucket.

Nov 27, 2019 10:39 PM #73

@BShark

We cant shoot

Nov 27, 2019 10:40 PM #74

approxinfinity said:

"Lottery pick" with his first bucket.

Was due at some point

Nov 27, 2019 10:40 PM #75

35 Mugged dotson again how is that not a foul

Nov 27, 2019 10:40 PM #76

Toppin is very good. Self is determined to make the rest of the team beat us.

Nov 27, 2019 10:41 PM #77

That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.

Nov 27, 2019 10:42 PM #78

Wow refs keeping Dayton around

Nov 27, 2019 10:42 PM #79

Jeez that's a bad foul by dayton

Nov 27, 2019 10:43 PM #80

approxinfinity said:

That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.

Agree but this has definitely been a big effort to take him out of the game.

Nov 27, 2019 10:43 PM #81

Big free throws out this timeout

Nov 27, 2019 10:44 PM #82

BShark said:

approxinfinity said:

That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.

Agree but this has definitely been a big effort to take him out of the game.

It's been effective limiting his chances. I dont think the others around him can sustain

Nov 27, 2019 10:45 PM #83

@BShark Self getting beat by Jay Wright/Villanova a couple times and maybe he wondered how he does it. Stop the big star

Nov 27, 2019 10:45 PM #84

We need to run plays to get Moss set looks. He can't make his own offense but I want him shooting threes way more than Agbaji.

Nov 27, 2019 10:46 PM #85

Honestly that's a foul Moss should be at the line.

Nov 27, 2019 10:47 PM #86

Toppin is so good

Nov 27, 2019 10:47 PM #87

Offense is trash without Doke.

Nov 27, 2019 10:48 PM #88

Marcus with a big shot

Nov 27, 2019 10:49 PM #89

at least the refs aren't calling ticky tack stuff or muggings

Nov 27, 2019 10:50 PM #90

35 should never get away with that fricken arm bar

Nov 27, 2019 10:50 PM #91

That's the 3rd time at least on dotson

Nov 27, 2019 10:52 PM #92

Jeez rebound

Nov 27, 2019 10:53 PM #93

This could be one of the worst officiated half’s I’ve seen in a while, at least half of our fouls are laughable and about a dozen missed on them. Dave sucked very badly this half after a solid outing last night.

Nov 27, 2019 10:53 PM #94

Anyone else tired of Dayton whining every time a call goes against them?

Nov 27, 2019 10:54 PM #95

The officials were trash against Tech too. @kjayhawks

Nov 27, 2019 10:54 PM #96

Good grief, our bench has only taken one shot

Nov 27, 2019 10:55 PM #97

That long dry spell hurt.

Nov 27, 2019 10:56 PM #98

Hawk8086 said:

That long dry spell hurt.

We win this game if Doke stays out of foul trouble in the 2nd half.

Nov 27, 2019 10:57 PM #99

@BShark Makes sense to me.

Nov 27, 2019 10:58 PM #100

@Hawk8086 Offense was a lot better with Doke in the game. Passes that led to dunks/fouls with Doke frequently led to turnovers/missed shots with Silvio or Dave.

Nov 27, 2019 10:59 PM #101

Dayton is 8/18 from 3, 47%; KU 2/6. We must defend the 3 better

Nov 27, 2019 11:00 PM #102

There have been a few bad calls both ways but I feel like the 2nd foul on Doke had the biggest impact on the game. Mac has happy feet.

Nov 27, 2019 11:03 PM #103

Pretty disappointing half and if Udoka keeps getting those fouls that have plagued him is entire career then I'm not sure we will have enough offense without him on the floor. Somebody has to step up and make a perimeter shot to open things up and the refs need to stop acting like 35 isnt fouling Dotson every time he comes around a screen

Nov 27, 2019 11:04 PM #104

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

There have been a few bad calls both ways but I feel like the 2nd foul on Doke had the biggest impact on the game. Mac has happy feet.

Agreed

Nov 27, 2019 11:04 PM #105

@stoptheflop yep, thought we was playing the mildcats lol

Nov 27, 2019 11:05 PM #106

stoptheflop said:

Dayton is 8/18 from 3, 47%; KU 2/6. We must defend the 3 better

Besides the toppin 3 with a hand everything has been wide open

Nov 27, 2019 11:05 PM #107

By the way, our point guard is playing pretty well. 6/8 FG, 17 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals. He's the best player in the game so far.

Nov 27, 2019 11:05 PM #108

Doke is the most important player on KU's roster. He has to play as much as possible

Nov 27, 2019 11:05 PM #109

Ochai 1-7 that half. Need him or someone besides Dotson to step up and make some shots.

If they can’t guard the 3 better it probably won’t matter though.

Nov 27, 2019 11:06 PM #110

When the refs target Doke like this he never adjusts. His 3rd and 4th fouls will be the same as the first half

Nov 27, 2019 11:07 PM #111

KU's overall strategy is fine. Make someone other than Toppin beat them and so far, UD has other guys stepping up.

Nov 27, 2019 11:07 PM #112

@BeddieKU23 I’d tell him forget the offensive glass and get back, can’t have those fouls right now.

Nov 27, 2019 11:08 PM #113

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

the 2nd foul on Doke

One of the worst calls I have seen in awhile.

Nov 27, 2019 11:08 PM #114

Texas Hawk 10 said:

KU's overall strategy is fine. Make someone other than Toppin beat them and so far, UD has other guys stepping up.

I think if Doke wasn;t taken out of the game by that bad call KU is up by about 8 right now.

Nov 27, 2019 11:08 PM #115

@BShark Ya very bad, very important call. Sucks but we move on.

Nov 27, 2019 11:09 PM #116

Didn't realize Dayton had won Maui before.

Nov 27, 2019 11:11 PM #117

OH no

Nov 27, 2019 11:12 PM #118

F this Ref

Nov 27, 2019 11:12 PM #119

Welp. Gonna be tough sledding without Marcus

Nov 27, 2019 11:12 PM #120

Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.

Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)

Nov 27, 2019 11:12 PM #121

Called that on Garrett, but not the reach on Dotson that did make contact with the arm?

Nov 27, 2019 11:12 PM #122

Big 3

Nov 27, 2019 11:13 PM #123

Another big 3 by Tristan

Nov 27, 2019 11:13 PM #124

approxinfinity said:

Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.

Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)

Doke is an amazing player ESPECIALLY in a 4 out. Imo it maximizes his strengths.

Nov 27, 2019 11:14 PM #125

Dirty dayton

Nov 27, 2019 11:15 PM #126

Another foul arm bar by 35

Nov 27, 2019 11:15 PM #127

BShark said:

approxinfinity said:

Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.

Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)

Doke is an amazing player ESPECIALLY in a 4 out. Imo it maximizes his strengths.

This is why I kept saying in the off-season that either McCormack or Silvio had to develop range to make a high-low work with Doke. Tristan is probably the best fit in that role for now.

Nov 27, 2019 11:16 PM #128

Can we win if we continue to give them open 3s?

Nov 27, 2019 11:17 PM #129

Big time play by Dotson on that short jumper

. Enaruna besides the 3 has done nothing all week. Kid cant hold onto the ball

Nov 27, 2019 11:18 PM #130

Hawk8086 said:

Can we win if we continue to give them open 3s?

Unfortunately we might have to find out.

Nov 27, 2019 11:19 PM #131

Why do teams keep fronting Doke?

Nov 27, 2019 11:21 PM #132

Obi taking over here. Gotta keep posting Doke up and go at him.

Nov 27, 2019 11:21 PM #133

Freshman mistakes on back to back possessions

Nov 27, 2019 11:22 PM #134

Woodrow said:

Obi taking over here. Gotta keep posting Doke up and go at him.

3rd best player in the tournament behind Edwards and Winston.

Nov 27, 2019 11:22 PM #135

Defense is all out of sorts this half

Nov 27, 2019 11:22 PM #136

Defend simple as that.

Nov 27, 2019 11:22 PM #137

Can't give up wide-open 3's and expect to beat anyone.

Nov 27, 2019 11:23 PM #138

If we can get to the point we are trading 3 for 4 instead of 3 for 2, feeding Doke can win it all.

Nov 27, 2019 11:23 PM #139

The problem is that they can all shoot the 3 and Doke can't defend out there.

Nov 27, 2019 11:24 PM #140

Once again failing at simple defensive assignments. Let’s see if we fold here, Braun just isn’t ready to major D1 ball yet. He’s a liability on both ends.

Nov 27, 2019 11:24 PM #141

That last possession was just great offense by Dayton.

Nov 27, 2019 11:24 PM #142

Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?

Nov 27, 2019 11:25 PM #143

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?

The problem is then we can't score.

Nov 27, 2019 11:26 PM #144

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?

DeSousa is the worst of the 5's and why he plays the least. Only chance KU has is with Doke on the floor.

Nov 27, 2019 11:26 PM #145

Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games

Nov 27, 2019 11:26 PM #146

This version of Doke is shooting 77% just like soph Doke.

Nov 27, 2019 11:26 PM #147

Jeez wide open shot in a zone

Nov 27, 2019 11:27 PM #148

Have to make it

Nov 27, 2019 11:27 PM #149

I jinxed Doke.

Nov 27, 2019 11:28 PM #150

Woodrow said:

Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games

He's Vick on offense. One big game, then disappears for several games. That's his career at Iowa, but a lot of people didn't want to believe that.

Nov 27, 2019 11:28 PM #151

Have to make it

Nov 27, 2019 11:28 PM #152

Stop feeding Doke let Dotson take this game over so sick of feeding the post for it to never come back out

Nov 27, 2019 11:29 PM #153

Doke has to hit those hooks from 3 feet.

Nov 27, 2019 11:30 PM #154

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Woodrow said:

Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games

He's Vick on offense. One big game, then disappears for several games. That's his career at Iowa, but a lot of people didn't want to believe that.

I feel like he would be a lot better if he took them more on balance but I might be hallucinating. At least he can make a guarded three.

He is a valuable piece but we definitely need Dotson and Doke to produce every night.

Nov 27, 2019 11:30 PM #155

kjayhawks said:

Doke has to hit those hooks from 3 feet.

Both of those looked solid too. Wish they went in...

Nov 27, 2019 11:31 PM #156

@Texas-Hawk-10 Well Dayton has made 11 3-pointers. At some point we have to stop hemorrhaging 3-pointers. De Sousa can at least guard the perimeter better.

Nov 27, 2019 11:31 PM #157

How long does Garrett set? I’d say as long as it not more than -4

Nov 27, 2019 11:31 PM #158

The biggest part of Dokes game yet to show is hitting perimeter shooters. I hope he's showing he's a capable passer by years end @BeddieKU23

Nov 27, 2019 11:32 PM #159

Self is coaching hard today.

Nov 27, 2019 11:32 PM #160

Lol obi

Nov 27, 2019 11:33 PM #161

Did they just try to run the Wiggins play against us? Hey!

Nov 27, 2019 11:33 PM #162

The 8th arm bar is finally called

Nov 27, 2019 11:33 PM #163

Whine away 0

Nov 27, 2019 11:33 PM #164

BeddieKU23 said:

The 8th arm bar is finally called

No kidding. That guy has NOTHING for Dot. Fouls him every time.

Nov 27, 2019 11:34 PM #165

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Well Dayton has made 11 3-pointers. At some point we have to stop hemorrhaging 3-pointers. De Sousa can at least guard the perimeter better.

Silvio isn't better enough than Doke guarding the perimeter to take the offensive hit as well.

Nov 27, 2019 11:34 PM #166

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

The 8th arm bar is finally called

No kidding. That guy has NOTHING for Dot. Fouls him every time.

Every single screen

Nov 27, 2019 11:34 PM #167

Ochai needs to come out.

Nov 27, 2019 11:35 PM #168

Just 2 dumb plays

Nov 27, 2019 11:35 PM #169

WTH Ochai?

Nov 27, 2019 11:36 PM #170

hammering Dotson.

Nov 27, 2019 11:36 PM #171

approxinfinity said:

hammering Dotson.

Every play

Nov 27, 2019 11:36 PM #172

@approxinfinity That wasn't too bad. Dotson had his arm out too.

Nov 27, 2019 11:37 PM #173

UGH

Nov 27, 2019 11:37 PM #174

Another turnover

Nov 27, 2019 11:37 PM #175

Oh great now giving possessions away with Doke at the line

Nov 27, 2019 11:38 PM #176

1 and 1s with Doke particularly brutal

Nov 27, 2019 11:38 PM #177

Oh well

Nov 27, 2019 11:38 PM #178

Why is Self playing a 2-3 against this offense?

Nov 27, 2019 11:38 PM #179

The zone just ain't it

Nov 27, 2019 11:39 PM #180

That maybe the game, can’t stop anyone

Nov 27, 2019 11:39 PM #181

Doesn't anyone know how to guard the 3 point line?

Nov 27, 2019 11:39 PM #182

kjayhawks said:

That maybe the game, can’t stop anyone

They are wide open shots.

Nov 27, 2019 11:39 PM #183

And Doke may need to come out before they start the hack a Doke strategy.

Nov 27, 2019 11:39 PM #184

@BeddieKU23 Exactly

Nov 27, 2019 11:40 PM #185

13 3-pointers now... Are we going to adjust?

Nov 27, 2019 11:40 PM #186

@KirkIsMyHinrich

30 minutes of not adjusting so I'd say nope

Nov 27, 2019 11:40 PM #187

If I’m them I’d foul Doke everytime he touches from here on out

Nov 27, 2019 11:40 PM #188

And you cant play zone with them slowing possessions

Nov 27, 2019 11:41 PM #189

In the danger zone now gang

Nov 27, 2019 11:42 PM #190

Okay that's game. That was absurdly deep.

Nov 27, 2019 11:42 PM #191

Game from 4p deet

Nov 27, 2019 11:42 PM #192

Getting that ass beat

Nov 27, 2019 11:42 PM #193

Oh well bilas was right

Nov 27, 2019 11:42 PM #194

Game folks

Nov 27, 2019 11:43 PM #195

Alright stetch run. 3 stops. 3 scores.

Nov 27, 2019 11:43 PM #196

GTFO dayton

Nov 27, 2019 11:44 PM #197

3 players can't get 1 ball

Nov 27, 2019 11:44 PM #198

Half way there.

Nov 27, 2019 11:44 PM #199

Way too much me ball

Nov 27, 2019 11:44 PM #200

One more

Nov 27, 2019 11:45 PM #201

Ok ok big time response

Nov 27, 2019 11:45 PM #202

Pretty sure Obi won’t sit the rest of the game

Nov 27, 2019 11:45 PM #203

@BeddieKU23 I’m impressed let’s see what we can here

Nov 27, 2019 11:46 PM #204

Doke out on an island. Just have to hope Dayton misses their 3's.

Nov 27, 2019 11:46 PM #205

Our point guard is pretty good.

Nov 27, 2019 11:46 PM #206

Garbage.

Nov 27, 2019 11:47 PM #207

Soft ass call

Nov 27, 2019 11:47 PM #208

Yes pressure!

Nov 27, 2019 11:48 PM #209

Obi Gyn.

Nov 27, 2019 11:48 PM #210

When referring becomes guess work you know college basketball has no hope

Nov 27, 2019 11:48 PM #211

Doke passed it

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #212

And it was beautiful

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #213

approxinfinity said:

And it was beautiful

U called it!!!

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #214

What is even happening. 8-0 run off lay-ups.

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #215

BShark said:

What is even happening. 8-0 run off lay-ups.

2005 basketball

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #216

Time to put the hammer down boys !

Nov 27, 2019 11:49 PM #217

I think Self was laughing at how emphatically that official called that oob when neither of them had any clue who it was off of.

Nov 27, 2019 11:50 PM #218

Our d + fg% can be good enough to win on 2s.

Nov 27, 2019 11:51 PM #219

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I think Self was laughing at how emphatically that official called that oob when neither of them had any clue who it was off of.

Gotta make it look good when you have no idea amirite? loool

Nov 27, 2019 11:51 PM #220

Feed chatman the wheat

Nov 27, 2019 11:51 PM #221

@BShark Right. Gotta make it seem like you know.

Nov 27, 2019 11:52 PM #222

Don't like that look.

Nov 27, 2019 11:52 PM #223

Legs

Nov 27, 2019 11:52 PM #224

@BShark at least it was an open shot but bad angle

Nov 27, 2019 11:53 PM #225

DOKE

Nov 27, 2019 11:53 PM #226

Woo

Nov 27, 2019 11:53 PM #227

@approxinfinity Tough tough tough shot due to him being off balance.

Nov 27, 2019 11:53 PM #228

And one

Nov 27, 2019 11:54 PM #229

SOFT ASS CALL GTFO

Nov 27, 2019 11:54 PM #230

Weak call on Doke.

Nov 27, 2019 11:54 PM #231

Wow

Nov 27, 2019 11:54 PM #232

Miss one

Nov 27, 2019 11:55 PM #233

Doke eating

Nov 27, 2019 11:55 PM #234

Big time.

Nov 27, 2019 11:56 PM #235

Chatman bitching all game. Serves you right. Not getting a flop call.

Nov 27, 2019 11:56 PM #236

Lol

Nov 27, 2019 11:56 PM #237

Good lord you pansy

Nov 27, 2019 11:56 PM #238

Big floppy bitch

Nov 27, 2019 11:56 PM #239

What a flop. And ESPN had a segment about KU players flopping?

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #240

Lmao!! On the flop

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #241

Damit

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #242

Smells like OT.

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #243

Doke taunting not smart.

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #244

Come on Dot

Nov 27, 2019 11:57 PM #245

Don't get a T, Doke.

Nov 27, 2019 11:58 PM #246

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Don't get a T, Doke.

That worried me...

Nov 27, 2019 11:58 PM #247

Come on Dotson make these!!!

Nov 27, 2019 11:58 PM #248

Early foul to prevent the trey?

Nov 27, 2019 11:59 PM #249

nwhawkfan said:

Early foul to prevent the trey?

Too much time I think. Now if they drain clock I would do it.

Nov 27, 2019 11:59 PM #250

nwhawkfan said:

Early foul to prevent the trey?

Never been Self's MO so doubt it.

Nov 28, 2019 12:00 AM #251

He should foul if it gets under 5

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #252

Crap

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #253

Of course

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #254

BeddieKU23 said:

He should foul if it gets under 5

Never been Self's philosophy on that

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #255

Bullshit

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #256

Should have fouled when it went under 5

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #257

You're kidding me.

Nov 28, 2019 12:01 AM #258

That's on self

Nov 28, 2019 12:02 AM #259

Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.

Nov 28, 2019 12:02 AM #260

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

He should foul if it gets under 5

Never been Self's philosophy on that

Well that's on him then

Nov 28, 2019 12:02 AM #261

Me too. Let's stay locked in and we win this.

Nov 28, 2019 12:02 AM #262

BShark said:

Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.

Doesnt matter it went in

Nov 28, 2019 12:03 AM #263

Pretty sure that went off of the Dayton player.

Nov 28, 2019 12:03 AM #264

Yep, hit his knee

Nov 28, 2019 12:03 AM #265

That missed one and one by Dotson biting us

Nov 28, 2019 12:04 AM #266

@BeddieKU23 yeah that was rough.

Nov 28, 2019 12:04 AM #267

Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching

Nov 28, 2019 12:04 AM #268

Wow

Nov 28, 2019 12:04 AM #269

@Woodrow he should know. 2008.

Nov 28, 2019 12:05 AM #270

One point one. Plenty of time.

Nov 28, 2019 12:05 AM #271

Woodrow said:

Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching

No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.

Nov 28, 2019 12:05 AM #272

Lol

Nov 28, 2019 12:05 AM #273

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Woodrow said:

Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching

No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.

Just cause he has never done it doesnt mean it's not a poor move

Nov 28, 2019 12:05 AM #274

Wow, he almost made that.

Nov 28, 2019 12:06 AM #275

I think he should have fouled.

Nov 28, 2019 12:07 AM #276

Seems prudent. Dayton wasn't beating us inside the arc.

Nov 28, 2019 12:07 AM #277

Also Dave and Doke should get any rebound

Nov 28, 2019 12:08 AM #278

BeddieKU23 said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Woodrow said:

Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching

No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.

Just cause he has never done it doesnt mean it's not a poor move

Man up and play defense. Kid hit a difficult shot, it happens.

We'd all be bitching about if KU have up the offensive board and put back as well to tie it saying Self should've played defense. Self's defenses have stopped that shot far more than teams have made it over the years.

Nov 28, 2019 12:08 AM #279

Hawk8086 said:

I think he should have fouled.

Not even debatable. Under 5 seconds you foul. So many things would have to happen for them to tie the game from there. Not too mention they are in the 1-1 and not double bonus.

Nov 28, 2019 12:09 AM #280

Woodrow said:

Hawk8086 said:

I think he should have fouled.

Not even debatable. Under 5 seconds you foul. So many things would have to happen for them to tie the game from there. Not too mention they are in the 1-1 and not double bonus.

It is debatable because Self isn't the only coach who plays defense in that situation.

Nov 28, 2019 12:09 AM #281

@Texas-Hawk-10 A board and put back would have lost it for them. You have to guard the friggin 3!!!

Nov 28, 2019 12:11 AM #282

I'd be okay with Toppin fouling out.

Nov 28, 2019 12:11 AM #283

Big Clyde52 said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 A board and put back would have lost it for them. You have to guard the friggin 3!!!

The defense was fine on the 3, and the intentional miss comes after making the first FT.

Nov 28, 2019 12:11 AM #284

Clean !

Nov 28, 2019 12:11 AM #285

DOKE!!!

Nov 28, 2019 12:12 AM #286

Does Doke need to have a 3 ball to be lottery? Jesus. So good.

Nov 28, 2019 12:12 AM #287

DOKE x2

Nov 28, 2019 12:12 AM #288

Don't get a T Dont' get a T Don't get a T

Nov 28, 2019 12:13 AM #289

MY LORD

DOKE X3

Nov 28, 2019 12:13 AM #290

Doke just WOW

Nov 28, 2019 12:13 AM #291

The man the myth the Doke

Nov 28, 2019 12:13 AM #292

How does Doke only have 3 rebounds?

Nov 28, 2019 12:13 AM #293

Come on . Bail out. Shove off.

Nov 28, 2019 12:14 AM #294

Moss don't bail him out.

Nov 28, 2019 12:14 AM #295

Daaaamn Moss you just gotta let him throw that jank up and hope it misses.

Nov 28, 2019 12:14 AM #296

@Texas-Hawk-10 D was not fine. You do not let them shoot a 3 at all cost.

Nov 28, 2019 12:14 AM #297

Come on Isiah you picked the wrong time to finally do something

Nov 28, 2019 12:14 AM #298

Terrible fouls by Moss. Not sure why he was reaching

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #299

Why did we take Doke out??!

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #300

Exhausted probably.

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #301

BShark said:

Why did we take Doke out??!

I just said that. WTF???

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #302

Big Clyde52 said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 D was not fine. You do not let them shoot a 3 at all cost.

He made a 25 footer with a hand in his face. Any better defense and Dayton is at the line for a 4 point play and the win.

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #303

Nice play now make them

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #304

ffs Ochai

Nov 28, 2019 12:15 AM #305

Come on man

Nov 28, 2019 12:16 AM #306

Okay Doke is back in

Nov 28, 2019 12:16 AM #307

BShark said:

Why did we take Doke out??!

Defense.

Nov 28, 2019 12:16 AM #308

This mikesell kid is annoying

Nov 28, 2019 12:16 AM #309

@Texas-Hawk-10 OK you r right. A foul would still be better than a 3.

Nov 28, 2019 12:17 AM #310

@BeddieKU23 53% ft shooter perfect from the line. But I mean Doke is making them too I guess...

Nov 28, 2019 12:17 AM #311

All day

Nov 28, 2019 12:17 AM #312

Where is the box out?

Nov 28, 2019 12:18 AM #313

3 pt lead and the ball with 47 secs...have to win!

Nov 28, 2019 12:18 AM #314

Long leash for Ochai tonight

Nov 28, 2019 12:18 AM #315

Dotson is absolutely gassed. Playing all 45

Nov 28, 2019 12:18 AM #316

approxinfinity said:

Long leash for Ochai tonight

Ochai has no leash

Nov 28, 2019 12:18 AM #317

approxinfinity said:

Where is the box out?

Standing out of bounds after the failed block attempt.

Nov 28, 2019 12:19 AM #318

Good find Marcus!

Nov 28, 2019 12:19 AM #319

BShark said:

approxinfinity said:

Long leash for Ochai tonight

Ochai has no leash

Would you play Enaruna or Braun over him for an extended stretch?

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #320

@Texas-Hawk-10 Absolutely not. I wasn't saying that either.

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #321

Unbelievable

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #322

Doke...that could cost us the game!

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #323

Oh no Doke, just let him shoot it.

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #324

Well. At least Doke is guarding the 3 well. Just needs to go straight up

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #325

Wow play by Marcus. Crap doke

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #326

He will learn. This is new territory.

Nov 28, 2019 12:20 AM #327

That's why Doke came out on the last possession of regulation.

Nov 28, 2019 12:21 AM #328

We need to make some free ones.

Nov 28, 2019 12:21 AM #329

Maybe he hit him hard enough he will miss one

Nov 28, 2019 12:21 AM #330

Big Clyde52 said:

We need to make some free ones.

We need to make them foul Dotson for sure.

Nov 28, 2019 12:21 AM #331

BeddieKU23 said:

Maybe he hit him hard enough he will miss one

Called it

Nov 28, 2019 12:21 AM #332

Woooo

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #333

Need to sub Garrett out for a better FT shooter or have Garrett in bound the ball.

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #334

Yeeesh.

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #335

WTF

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #336

Omg

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #337

Dotson, WTF was that pass?!?!

Nov 28, 2019 12:22 AM #338

Dotson should have called timeout

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #339

Yes.

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #340

Lol the guy that send it to ot just blew a layup

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #341

My heart stopped

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #342

Big time Fts

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #343

Almost there guys

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #344

Woodrow said:

Dotson should have called timeout

He had Garrett available and open, just a DB as hell decision that could've cost KU the game.

Nov 28, 2019 12:23 AM #345

Where was the foul?

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #346

approxinfinity said:

Where was the foul?

Ball don't lie

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #347

@approxinfinity Phantom

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #348

Not a foul are you kidding me

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #349

@approxinfinity Rebound

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #350

Thank you very much

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #351

Ball doth not lie

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #352

Hit 2 more MG.

Nov 28, 2019 12:24 AM #353

Marcus is a big boy. His ft stroke is legit now

Nov 28, 2019 12:25 AM #354

Game of the year

Nov 28, 2019 12:25 AM #355

Huge win! Very good team. Wow. We locked down in the last 4 minutes of regulations on. I loved Doke and Dotson's impact.

Nov 28, 2019 12:25 AM #356

BeddieKU23 said:

Game of the year

False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.

Nov 28, 2019 12:25 AM #357

BALLGAME

Nov 28, 2019 12:25 AM #358

@approxinfinity They were the MVP's.

Nov 28, 2019 12:26 AM #359

Dayton has a friggin SQUAD

Nov 28, 2019 12:26 AM #360

Peace out you Dayton A-holes, mocking Tech last night.

Nov 28, 2019 12:26 AM #361

Wow what a game

Nov 28, 2019 12:26 AM #362

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Game of the year

False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.

Whatever dude

Nov 28, 2019 12:26 AM #363

Hot dang! Free throws!

Nov 28, 2019 12:27 AM #364

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.

Doesnt matter it went in

It was a contested, step-back, drifting 3-pointer that had a bad chance of going in. I'm fine with that shot too.

Nov 28, 2019 12:27 AM #365

Now I can eat my turkey in peace

Nov 28, 2019 12:27 AM #366

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Game of the year

False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.

Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #367

Way to be tough!

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #368

When Doke is hitting the free ones, you know we are in good shape.

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #369

Well that was fun!

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #370

Garrett hit 5-6 free throws and Dok make 5-8. I'll take that any game.

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #371

approxinfinity said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Game of the year

False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.

Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.

Maybe 1/3...

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #372

@tundrahok turkey day miracle!

Nov 28, 2019 12:29 AM #373

Well, back to holiday prep. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving !

ROCK CHALK GOBBLE GOBBLE !!!

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #374

@nwhawkfan you too bud!

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #375

Gotta go hang out with the kids. Bye guys!

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #376

approxinfinity said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Game of the year

False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.

Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.

Don't think I'd say that, but Dayton is a good team. I just enjoyed watching Duke's first non conference home loss in 20 years at the hands of school I've spent plenty of time at.

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #377

@nwhawkfan back at you🦃🦃🦃

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #378

tundrahok said:

Garrett hit 5-6 free throws and Dok make 5-8. I'll take that any game.

!alt text ↗

Nov 28, 2019 12:30 AM #379

@approxinfinity Enjoy !

Nov 28, 2019 12:31 AM #380

I was very surprised in a way, showed more toughness than in New York. Heck of a game and we got a ton of stuff to work on defensively.

Nov 28, 2019 12:33 AM #381

@kjayhawks 11 turnovers in a game that went to OT. I'd like our chances playing Duke again...

Nov 28, 2019 12:33 AM #382

All the yap about Toppins and he was he 4th or 5th best player on the court in that one.

Nov 28, 2019 12:34 AM #383

kjayhawks said:

All the yap about Toppins and he was he 4th or 5th best player on the court in that one.

No way. Self coached him out of the game. He is the highest draft pick player in the game and would start at the 4 for KU.

Nov 28, 2019 12:35 AM #384

Doke and Dotson combine for 60 on 23/31 shooting. Absurd.

Nov 28, 2019 12:36 AM #385

WOW!!

Nov 28, 2019 12:37 AM #386

Toppins also got 9 rebounds. Dok got 3. Our team got more boards than theirs, but our top 3 rebounders are guards.

Nov 28, 2019 12:38 AM #387

@tundrahok long shot long rebound was a big part of that.

Nov 28, 2019 12:38 AM #388

Dayton shot 48.5% from 3 and 43.5% from the field. Yeesh.

Nov 28, 2019 12:39 AM #389

Holy Crap guys , what a ball game. - -yes Dayton does belong in the top 25 - -that is a hell of a team mercy what 16 three's ? - - -

I couldn't be prouder of our guys -- crazy ball and Doke found his stroke from the free throw line? - -absolute man in todays game. - -We play like that through the year - -we gonna be really hard to beat

We down by 8 with like 6 1/2 minutes. - -they didn't panic - -just kept working - -what a hell of a game to watch.

Tell you someone else that played really well , - -Marcus - -his usual great defense and adding some scoring - -I'll take that for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 28, 2019 12:39 AM #390

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dayton shot 48.5% from 3 and 43.5% from the field. Yeesh.

We were basically the opposite. 60.5% from 2 after 62.5% from 2 against UCLA. It's very nice to have overpowering bigs.

Nov 28, 2019 12:40 AM #391

@BShark On one end anyway.

Nov 28, 2019 12:41 AM #392

@BShark 4 is our weakest link and most the teams we play will be better at that spot until one of our youngsters grow up. KU has a couple of kids that could go in his range like Tristan.

Nov 28, 2019 12:41 AM #393

jayballer73 said:

Holy Crap guys , what a ball game. - -yes Dayton does belong in the top 25 - -that is a hell of a team mercy what 16 three's ? - - -

I couldn't be prouder of our guys -- crazy ball and Doke found his stroke from the free throw line? - -absolute man in todays game. - -We play like that through the year - -we gonna be really hard to beat

We down by 8 with like 6 1/2 minutes. - -they didn't panic - -just kept working - -what a hell of a game to watch.

Tell you someone else that played really well , - -Marcus - -his usual great defense and adding some scoring - -I'll take that for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

That game felt like a lifetime. I shall rest in peace.

Nov 28, 2019 12:42 AM #394

@BShark UCLA???

Nov 28, 2019 12:42 AM #395

Big Clyde52 said:

@BShark UCLA???

I'm high off the fumes of this game. I meant BYU.

Nov 28, 2019 12:43 AM #396

@BShark No problem. I have not come down yet either.

Nov 28, 2019 12:46 AM #397

Man gonna take awhile for me to calm down from this game - - -WHAT A GAME - -both sides really

Nov 28, 2019 12:49 AM #398

BShark said:

@kjayhawks 11 turnovers in a game that went to OT. I'd like our chances playing Duke again...

Took really good care of the ball. - -I just can't get over how much better Doke shot the ball from the line. - -I think him seeing this game you would think would have to help his confidence for the future. - -I mean still 5-8 but that's a world of improvement for him

Nov 28, 2019 12:50 AM #399

approxinfinity said:

Gotta go hang out with the kids. Bye guys!

Happy Thanksgiving

Nov 28, 2019 12:51 AM #400

nwhawkfan said:

Well, back to holiday prep. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving !

ROCK CHALK GOBBLE GOBBLE !!!

Happy Thanksgiving - - have a awesome day - -but stay safe - -need all us KU brothern here for the boys

Nov 28, 2019 12:55 AM #401

We are a couple of laughable calls against us vs Duke in 11-12 away from being 3 in a row. I will always remember that game for Bilas even calling out some of those trash calls. I like winning early in the season while some big improvements needed. Dayton is good but probably doesn’t play much better than that the rest of the year.

Nov 28, 2019 12:59 AM #402

@kjayhawks Yea. I wish we had that kind of 3 ball. And I sure wish SDS would come around. Rooting for that young man.

Nov 28, 2019 01:01 AM #403

@HighEliteMajor rip might not be good🤣

Nov 28, 2019 01:03 AM #404

Sick of toppins! Bilas 🤮 doke and d dot 🤩💥

Nov 28, 2019 01:14 AM #405

Standing ovation for Dotson and Doke . Hell of an effort and game.

Nov 28, 2019 01:15 AM #406

The box score shows Moss played 36 minutes, only took one shot and had 0 points. Kind of reminds me of Grimes.

Nov 28, 2019 01:37 AM #407

@stoptheflop Yes we need a lot more from him. Three players scored 78 of our points. GOOD THING!! Need more balance in the future to be really good.

Nov 28, 2019 01:47 AM #408

Did he need to shoot today? Doke was 12-15 from the field. Dotson was 11-16. Garrett was 6-10. The game plan was clearly to throw the ball inside to Udoka. When we couldn't, Dotson or Garrett would break down the defense and try to get a layup or get to the free-throw line. I'm glad Moss didn't try to force anything today because he didn't need to. He also had 0 turnovers and played decent defense.

Grimes probably would have tried to get his shots in today. And we probably would have lost because of it.

Nov 28, 2019 01:49 AM #409

Elephant in the room -- decision not to foul, up three, when the clock got under 7 seconds. You know, I can assure that this approach will cost us an exit from the NCAA tourney (right, it did, see 2013).

Nov 28, 2019 01:51 AM #410

@KirkIsMyHinrich Good point. I noticed yesterday Moss looked off balance on a few of his shots. He may be pretty decent if he will get his feet set, and not rush his shot. We are going to need him to contribute along with Ochai for a balanced offese.

Nov 28, 2019 01:56 AM #411

@HighEliteMajor Agree. I can not understand why any defense would allow a 3 point try to tie when under 6 seconds. Was that the Michigan game?

Nov 28, 2019 01:59 AM #412

@HighEliteMajor Agree. Have to foul then. Especially with an entire team of 3 pt shooters.

Nov 28, 2019 02:01 AM #413

@KirkIsMyHinrich Agree on Moss. I didn't see that he had any open looks. They refused to double Doke and guarded our guys on the perimeter. Mistake. I would have doubled Doke and forced him to kick it out.

Nov 28, 2019 02:21 AM #414

@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes, I did see Moss playing well on defense. I was just surprised he played 36 minutes.

Nov 28, 2019 02:25 AM #415

Haha KSU got spanked by Bradley

Nov 28, 2019 02:41 AM #416

Okie State popped the Orange by 14. Still unbeaten.

Nov 28, 2019 03:27 AM #417

KSU lost by 13 to Bradley tonight.

Nov 28, 2019 03:32 AM #418

@HighEliteMajor I was hoping we would try to foul, but maybe HCBS was leery of the 4 pt play or 3 FTs which can provide 2 pts and a putback opportunity. If the player trying to foul isn't guarding exceptionally closely right before fouling, a quick shooter can get a shot away. And Dayton's guys were very quick at it.

I still blame the Michigan game on the pouch punch by EJ, but I get your point.

Nov 28, 2019 03:49 AM #419

:eyes:

Nov 28, 2019 04:12 AM #420

Hopefully the guys are enjoying the time there. We don’t have a game til the 7th of December, it will be nice to get rest and time to improve.