Ohio sucks. We good.
Jay Bilious at one point exclaimed that Dayton was the best team in this tournament. I'm looking forward to making him eat that vomit.
Hopefully he eats that crow. Toppin is the real deal
Folks always get a little too giddy about mid-majors that look good.
What is the deal today with Bilas ? - - Now he says that if KU beats Dayton today should be considered a little bit of an upset? -What the frick has he been smokin today? - - then he says right now Dayton is the better player.
Man I hope we come out and just play the under dog role and just smoke the nets
He's pissed because of Duke's loss to SFA at HOME and broke a streak going back 20 years or so...
Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.
stoptheflop said:
Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.
true , however fatigue will also play a factor for Dayton. - Listening to pre-game - -I myself think might be making a mistake. - - He is talking like he playing to bigs again today.
I think we need to start and play with the 4 around one today against a team like Dayton - -hope I'm wrong
@jayballer73 We may need to play 4 guards, but coach has his starting lineup set and it includes two bigs.
Rankings aside he probably isnt wrong, Dayton has played really well the first two days.
stoptheflop said:
Fatigue is going to be a factor today. I think coach will insert the freshmen early to give the starters a rest. The freshmen must play better today than last night.
That could have been avoided by sitting Dotson and the guards earlier when the result was not in doubt
Self said the 2 bigs O is not very good and not long for this world. We'll see.
This game is almost a coin toss but slightly in KU's favor. Based on the point spread and advanced stats anyway.
approxinfinity said:
Self said the 2 bigs O is not very good and not long for this world. We'll see.
I think it would be just fine with Silvio at the four. Better passer and driver; quicker; good with the ball.
Yeah we need to adjust on D.
Joke
Nice pass
We are going to grind these kids down.
Floppy boi Landers
Do we really need to double toppin?
Oh man. DEVON IS BALLIN!
approxinfinity said:
Do we really need to double toppin?
Nope but kids are just over aware of him
Devon with that slam in transition he means BIDNESS
That's some All American fire.
This game is lit. We need to guard the three point line better though.
BShark said:
This game is lit. We need to guard the three point line better though.
Over helping as usual. They could miss a few too.
Grind. These. Kids. Down.
Marcus make your layup
At least he has improved at the line
Self is saying it won't be Toppin to beat us.
Why are we triple teaming. Just gonna be catch and shoot
tf was that shot from Dayton and it goes in of course
How do you miss that badly from 3 feet
Devon is the f'n Gingerbread man.
Devon
Dave MAKE THAT
Ugh
Here it is. Moss / Enaruna in the 4 guard with game in balance.
THIS IS A GREAT BASKETBALL GAME
BShark said:
THIS IS A GREAT BASKETBALL GAME
Unreal pace and feel this game. Loving how Devon and Azubuike are bringing the heat
It's been many years since the defense has been this good.
35 mugged dotson gtfo
Dotson came to hoop today gang
Big Time
Devon Marcus Doke playing like vets.
Honestly a smart foul by Dayton. Doke will go 0-1 on this lol
Ooooooo doke
Wow
I mean sure, give their best shooter a wide open three
Dumb
It's a good foul stop crying watson
Obvious foul and Dayton chud fans are booing
Bull Crap
The slow down is here
Jeez Marcus just said I'll charlie moore that one
Dave traveled but that white guy for Dayton didn't :thinking_face: :thinking_face: :thinking_face:
BShark said:
Dave traveled but that white guy for Dayton didn't :thinking_face: :thinking_face: :thinking_face:
I thought that last play was off dave, call it even?
CLOWN CALL
Doke got fouled and gets called OKAY
F this ref
Toppin flopped
Floppin Toppin
Jeez Silvio
Agbaji missed horrible on that 3 too. Just so inconsistent
nice block, ochai
Wow great block
all right, bigs had their chance. Drive the guards again
This ref is just dying to call travels on Dave. Very quick whistle.
I dont want Dave touching the ball
Well that's just the product of dumb basketball
I knew this team couldn't keep up the offensive pace from the first 8 minutes. Thankfully we started getting some stops too. Going to be a battle.
"Lottery pick" with his first bucket.
approxinfinity said:
"Lottery pick" with his first bucket.
Was due at some point
35 Mugged dotson again how is that not a foul
Toppin is very good. Self is determined to make the rest of the team beat us.
That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.
Wow refs keeping Dayton around
Jeez that's a bad foul by dayton
approxinfinity said:
That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.
Agree but this has definitely been a big effort to take him out of the game.
Big free throws out this timeout
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
That's not usual. Usually he lets the star get his.
Agree but this has definitely been a big effort to take him out of the game.
It's been effective limiting his chances. I dont think the others around him can sustain
We need to run plays to get Moss set looks. He can't make his own offense but I want him shooting threes way more than Agbaji.
Honestly that's a foul Moss should be at the line.
Toppin is so good
Offense is trash without Doke.
Marcus with a big shot
at least the refs aren't calling ticky tack stuff or muggings
35 should never get away with that fricken arm bar
That's the 3rd time at least on dotson
Jeez rebound
This could be one of the worst officiated half’s I’ve seen in a while, at least half of our fouls are laughable and about a dozen missed on them. Dave sucked very badly this half after a solid outing last night.
Anyone else tired of Dayton whining every time a call goes against them?
The officials were trash against Tech too. @kjayhawks
Good grief, our bench has only taken one shot
That long dry spell hurt.
Hawk8086 said:
That long dry spell hurt.
We win this game if Doke stays out of foul trouble in the 2nd half.
Dayton is 8/18 from 3, 47%; KU 2/6. We must defend the 3 better
There have been a few bad calls both ways but I feel like the 2nd foul on Doke had the biggest impact on the game. Mac has happy feet.
Pretty disappointing half and if Udoka keeps getting those fouls that have plagued him is entire career then I'm not sure we will have enough offense without him on the floor. Somebody has to step up and make a perimeter shot to open things up and the refs need to stop acting like 35 isnt fouling Dotson every time he comes around a screen
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
There have been a few bad calls both ways but I feel like the 2nd foul on Doke had the biggest impact on the game. Mac has happy feet.
Agreed
@stoptheflop yep, thought we was playing the mildcats lol
stoptheflop said:
Dayton is 8/18 from 3, 47%; KU 2/6. We must defend the 3 better
Besides the toppin 3 with a hand everything has been wide open
By the way, our point guard is playing pretty well. 6/8 FG, 17 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals. He's the best player in the game so far.
Doke is the most important player on KU's roster. He has to play as much as possible
Ochai 1-7 that half. Need him or someone besides Dotson to step up and make some shots.
If they can’t guard the 3 better it probably won’t matter though.
When the refs target Doke like this he never adjusts. His 3rd and 4th fouls will be the same as the first half
KU's overall strategy is fine. Make someone other than Toppin beat them and so far, UD has other guys stepping up.
@BeddieKU23 I’d tell him forget the offensive glass and get back, can’t have those fouls right now.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
the 2nd foul on Doke
One of the worst calls I have seen in awhile.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KU's overall strategy is fine. Make someone other than Toppin beat them and so far, UD has other guys stepping up.
I think if Doke wasn;t taken out of the game by that bad call KU is up by about 8 right now.
Didn't realize Dayton had won Maui before.
OH no
F this Ref
Welp. Gonna be tough sledding without Marcus
Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.
Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)
Called that on Garrett, but not the reach on Dotson that did make contact with the arm?
Big 3
Another big 3 by Tristan
approxinfinity said:
Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.
Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)
Doke is an amazing player ESPECIALLY in a 4 out. Imo it maximizes his strengths.
Dirty dayton
Another foul arm bar by 35
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
Doke screens are very effective for 4 guards.
Who says he doesn't fit a modern O :)
Doke is an amazing player ESPECIALLY in a 4 out. Imo it maximizes his strengths.
This is why I kept saying in the off-season that either McCormack or Silvio had to develop range to make a high-low work with Doke. Tristan is probably the best fit in that role for now.
Can we win if we continue to give them open 3s?
Big time play by Dotson on that short jumper
. Enaruna besides the 3 has done nothing all week. Kid cant hold onto the ball
Hawk8086 said:
Can we win if we continue to give them open 3s?
Unfortunately we might have to find out.
Why do teams keep fronting Doke?
Obi taking over here. Gotta keep posting Doke up and go at him.
Freshman mistakes on back to back possessions
Woodrow said:
Obi taking over here. Gotta keep posting Doke up and go at him.
3rd best player in the tournament behind Edwards and Winston.
Defense is all out of sorts this half
Defend simple as that.
Can't give up wide-open 3's and expect to beat anyone.
If we can get to the point we are trading 3 for 4 instead of 3 for 2, feeding Doke can win it all.
The problem is that they can all shoot the 3 and Doke can't defend out there.
Once again failing at simple defensive assignments. Let’s see if we fold here, Braun just isn’t ready to major D1 ball yet. He’s a liability on both ends.
That last possession was just great offense by Dayton.
Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?
The problem is then we can't score.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Let's try a 4-1 with De Sousa?
DeSousa is the worst of the 5's and why he plays the least. Only chance KU has is with Doke on the floor.
Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games
This version of Doke is shooting 77% just like soph Doke.
Jeez wide open shot in a zone
Have to make it
I jinxed Doke.
Woodrow said:
Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games
He's Vick on offense. One big game, then disappears for several games. That's his career at Iowa, but a lot of people didn't want to believe that.
Have to make it
Stop feeding Doke let Dotson take this game over so sick of feeding the post for it to never come back out
Doke has to hit those hooks from 3 feet.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Woodrow said:
Moss hasn’t hit shit last two games
He's Vick on offense. One big game, then disappears for several games. That's his career at Iowa, but a lot of people didn't want to believe that.
I feel like he would be a lot better if he took them more on balance but I might be hallucinating. At least he can make a guarded three.
He is a valuable piece but we definitely need Dotson and Doke to produce every night.
kjayhawks said:
Doke has to hit those hooks from 3 feet.
Both of those looked solid too. Wish they went in...
@Texas-Hawk-10 Well Dayton has made 11 3-pointers. At some point we have to stop hemorrhaging 3-pointers. De Sousa can at least guard the perimeter better.
How long does Garrett set? I’d say as long as it not more than -4
The biggest part of Dokes game yet to show is hitting perimeter shooters. I hope he's showing he's a capable passer by years end @BeddieKU23
Self is coaching hard today.
Lol obi
Did they just try to run the Wiggins play against us? Hey!
The 8th arm bar is finally called
Whine away 0
BeddieKU23 said:
The 8th arm bar is finally called
No kidding. That guy has NOTHING for Dot. Fouls him every time.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Well Dayton has made 11 3-pointers. At some point we have to stop hemorrhaging 3-pointers. De Sousa can at least guard the perimeter better.
Silvio isn't better enough than Doke guarding the perimeter to take the offensive hit as well.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
The 8th arm bar is finally called
No kidding. That guy has NOTHING for Dot. Fouls him every time.
Every single screen
Ochai needs to come out.
Just 2 dumb plays
WTH Ochai?
hammering Dotson.
approxinfinity said:
hammering Dotson.
Every play
@approxinfinity That wasn't too bad. Dotson had his arm out too.
UGH
Another turnover
Oh great now giving possessions away with Doke at the line
1 and 1s with Doke particularly brutal
Oh well
Why is Self playing a 2-3 against this offense?
The zone just ain't it
That maybe the game, can’t stop anyone
Doesn't anyone know how to guard the 3 point line?
kjayhawks said:
That maybe the game, can’t stop anyone
They are wide open shots.
And Doke may need to come out before they start the hack a Doke strategy.
@BeddieKU23 Exactly
13 3-pointers now... Are we going to adjust?
30 minutes of not adjusting so I'd say nope
If I’m them I’d foul Doke everytime he touches from here on out
And you cant play zone with them slowing possessions
In the danger zone now gang
Okay that's game. That was absurdly deep.
Game from 4p deet
Getting that ass beat
Oh well bilas was right
Game folks
Alright stetch run. 3 stops. 3 scores.
GTFO dayton
3 players can't get 1 ball
Half way there.
Way too much me ball
One more
Ok ok big time response
Pretty sure Obi won’t sit the rest of the game
@BeddieKU23 I’m impressed let’s see what we can here
Doke out on an island. Just have to hope Dayton misses their 3's.
Our point guard is pretty good.
Garbage.
Soft ass call
Yes pressure!
Obi Gyn.
When referring becomes guess work you know college basketball has no hope
Doke passed it
And it was beautiful
approxinfinity said:
And it was beautiful
U called it!!!
What is even happening. 8-0 run off lay-ups.
BShark said:
What is even happening. 8-0 run off lay-ups.
2005 basketball
Time to put the hammer down boys !
I think Self was laughing at how emphatically that official called that oob when neither of them had any clue who it was off of.
Our d + fg% can be good enough to win on 2s.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I think Self was laughing at how emphatically that official called that oob when neither of them had any clue who it was off of.
Gotta make it look good when you have no idea amirite? loool
Feed chatman the wheat
Don't like that look.
Legs
DOKE
Woo
@approxinfinity Tough tough tough shot due to him being off balance.
And one
SOFT ASS CALL GTFO
Weak call on Doke.
Wow
Miss one
Doke eating
Big time.
Chatman bitching all game. Serves you right. Not getting a flop call.
Lol
Good lord you pansy
Big floppy bitch
What a flop. And ESPN had a segment about KU players flopping?
Lmao!! On the flop
Damit
Smells like OT.
Doke taunting not smart.
Come on Dot
Don't get a T, Doke.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Don't get a T, Doke.
That worried me...
Come on Dotson make these!!!
Early foul to prevent the trey?
nwhawkfan said:
Early foul to prevent the trey?
Too much time I think. Now if they drain clock I would do it.
nwhawkfan said:
Early foul to prevent the trey?
Never been Self's MO so doubt it.
He should foul if it gets under 5
Crap
Of course
BeddieKU23 said:
He should foul if it gets under 5
Never been Self's philosophy on that
Bullshit
Should have fouled when it went under 5
You're kidding me.
That's on self
Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
He should foul if it gets under 5
Never been Self's philosophy on that
Well that's on him then
Me too. Let's stay locked in and we win this.
BShark said:
Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.
Doesnt matter it went in
Pretty sure that went off of the Dayton player.
Yep, hit his knee
That missed one and one by Dotson biting us
@BeddieKU23 yeah that was rough.
Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching
Wow
One point one. Plenty of time.
Woodrow said:
Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching
No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.
Lol
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Woodrow said:
Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching
No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.
Just cause he has never done it doesnt mean it's not a poor move
Wow, he almost made that.
I think he should have fouled.
Seems prudent. Dayton wasn't beating us inside the arc.
Also Dave and Doke should get any rebound
BeddieKU23 said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Woodrow said:
Self has to foul there. That’s poor coaching
No it's not. Self has never fouled in that situation and there are plenty of other coaches who never foul in that situation either.
Just cause he has never done it doesnt mean it's not a poor move
Man up and play defense. Kid hit a difficult shot, it happens.
We'd all be bitching about if KU have up the offensive board and put back as well to tie it saying Self should've played defense. Self's defenses have stopped that shot far more than teams have made it over the years.
Hawk8086 said:
I think he should have fouled.
Not even debatable. Under 5 seconds you foul. So many things would have to happen for them to tie the game from there. Not too mention they are in the 1-1 and not double bonus.
Woodrow said:
Hawk8086 said:
I think he should have fouled.
Not even debatable. Under 5 seconds you foul. So many things would have to happen for them to tie the game from there. Not too mention they are in the 1-1 and not double bonus.
It is debatable because Self isn't the only coach who plays defense in that situation.
@Texas-Hawk-10 A board and put back would have lost it for them. You have to guard the friggin 3!!!
I'd be okay with Toppin fouling out.
Big Clyde52 said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 A board and put back would have lost it for them. You have to guard the friggin 3!!!
The defense was fine on the 3, and the intentional miss comes after making the first FT.
Clean !
DOKE!!!
Does Doke need to have a 3 ball to be lottery? Jesus. So good.
DOKE x2
Don't get a T Dont' get a T Don't get a T
MY LORD
DOKE X3
Doke just WOW
The man the myth the Doke
How does Doke only have 3 rebounds?
Come on . Bail out. Shove off.
Moss don't bail him out.
Daaaamn Moss you just gotta let him throw that jank up and hope it misses.
@Texas-Hawk-10 D was not fine. You do not let them shoot a 3 at all cost.
Come on Isiah you picked the wrong time to finally do something
Terrible fouls by Moss. Not sure why he was reaching
Why did we take Doke out??!
Exhausted probably.
BShark said:
Why did we take Doke out??!
I just said that. WTF???
Big Clyde52 said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 D was not fine. You do not let them shoot a 3 at all cost.
He made a 25 footer with a hand in his face. Any better defense and Dayton is at the line for a 4 point play and the win.
Nice play now make them
ffs Ochai
Come on man
Okay Doke is back in
BShark said:
Why did we take Doke out??!
Defense.
This mikesell kid is annoying
@Texas-Hawk-10 OK you r right. A foul would still be better than a 3.
@BeddieKU23 53% ft shooter perfect from the line. But I mean Doke is making them too I guess...
All day
Where is the box out?
3 pt lead and the ball with 47 secs...have to win!
Long leash for Ochai tonight
Dotson is absolutely gassed. Playing all 45
approxinfinity said:
Long leash for Ochai tonight
Ochai has no leash
approxinfinity said:
Where is the box out?
Standing out of bounds after the failed block attempt.
Good find Marcus!
BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
Long leash for Ochai tonight
Ochai has no leash
Would you play Enaruna or Braun over him for an extended stretch?
@Texas-Hawk-10 Absolutely not. I wasn't saying that either.
Unbelievable
Doke...that could cost us the game!
Oh no Doke, just let him shoot it.
Well. At least Doke is guarding the 3 well. Just needs to go straight up
Wow play by Marcus. Crap doke
He will learn. This is new territory.
That's why Doke came out on the last possession of regulation.
We need to make some free ones.
Maybe he hit him hard enough he will miss one
Big Clyde52 said:
We need to make some free ones.
We need to make them foul Dotson for sure.
BeddieKU23 said:
Maybe he hit him hard enough he will miss one
Called it
Woooo
Need to sub Garrett out for a better FT shooter or have Garrett in bound the ball.
Yeeesh.
WTF
Omg
Dotson, WTF was that pass?!?!
Dotson should have called timeout
Yes.
Lol the guy that send it to ot just blew a layup
My heart stopped
Big time Fts
Almost there guys
Woodrow said:
Dotson should have called timeout
He had Garrett available and open, just a DB as hell decision that could've cost KU the game.
Where was the foul?
approxinfinity said:
Where was the foul?
Ball don't lie
@approxinfinity Phantom
Not a foul are you kidding me
@approxinfinity Rebound
Thank you very much
Ball doth not lie
Hit 2 more MG.
Marcus is a big boy. His ft stroke is legit now
Game of the year
Huge win! Very good team. Wow. We locked down in the last 4 minutes of regulations on. I loved Doke and Dotson's impact.
BeddieKU23 said:
Game of the year
False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.
BALLGAME
@approxinfinity They were the MVP's.
Dayton has a friggin SQUAD
Peace out you Dayton A-holes, mocking Tech last night.
Wow what a game
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Game of the year
False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.
Whatever dude
Hot dang! Free throws!
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Honestly I'm okay with that shot, wasn't a great look.
Doesnt matter it went in
It was a contested, step-back, drifting 3-pointer that had a bad chance of going in. I'm fine with that shot too.
Now I can eat my turkey in peace
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Game of the year
False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.
Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.
Way to be tough!
When Doke is hitting the free ones, you know we are in good shape.
Well that was fun!
Garrett hit 5-6 free throws and Dok make 5-8. I'll take that any game.
approxinfinity said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Game of the year
False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.
Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.
Maybe 1/3...
@tundrahok turkey day miracle!
Well, back to holiday prep. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving !
ROCK CHALK GOBBLE GOBBLE !!!
@nwhawkfan you too bud!
Gotta go hang out with the kids. Bye guys!
approxinfinity said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Game of the year
False, last night at Cameron was game of the year.
Prediction. Dayton loses half as many games as Duke this year.
Don't think I'd say that, but Dayton is a good team. I just enjoyed watching Duke's first non conference home loss in 20 years at the hands of school I've spent plenty of time at.
@nwhawkfan back at you🦃🦃🦃
@approxinfinity Enjoy !
I was very surprised in a way, showed more toughness than in New York. Heck of a game and we got a ton of stuff to work on defensively.
@kjayhawks 11 turnovers in a game that went to OT. I'd like our chances playing Duke again...
All the yap about Toppins and he was he 4th or 5th best player on the court in that one.
kjayhawks said:
All the yap about Toppins and he was he 4th or 5th best player on the court in that one.
No way. Self coached him out of the game. He is the highest draft pick player in the game and would start at the 4 for KU.
Doke and Dotson combine for 60 on 23/31 shooting. Absurd.
WOW!!
Toppins also got 9 rebounds. Dok got 3. Our team got more boards than theirs, but our top 3 rebounders are guards.
@tundrahok long shot long rebound was a big part of that.
Dayton shot 48.5% from 3 and 43.5% from the field. Yeesh.
Holy Crap guys , what a ball game. - -yes Dayton does belong in the top 25 - -that is a hell of a team mercy what 16 three's ? - - -
I couldn't be prouder of our guys -- crazy ball and Doke found his stroke from the free throw line? - -absolute man in todays game. - -We play like that through the year - -we gonna be really hard to beat
We down by 8 with like 6 1/2 minutes. - -they didn't panic - -just kept working - -what a hell of a game to watch.
Tell you someone else that played really well , - -Marcus - -his usual great defense and adding some scoring - -I'll take that for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Dayton shot 48.5% from 3 and 43.5% from the field. Yeesh.
We were basically the opposite. 60.5% from 2 after 62.5% from 2 against UCLA. It's very nice to have overpowering bigs.
jayballer73 said:
Holy Crap guys , what a ball game. - -yes Dayton does belong in the top 25 - -that is a hell of a team mercy what 16 three's ? - - -
I couldn't be prouder of our guys -- crazy ball and Doke found his stroke from the free throw line? - -absolute man in todays game. - -We play like that through the year - -we gonna be really hard to beat
We down by 8 with like 6 1/2 minutes. - -they didn't panic - -just kept working - -what a hell of a game to watch.
Tell you someone else that played really well , - -Marcus - -his usual great defense and adding some scoring - -I'll take that for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
That game felt like a lifetime. I shall rest in peace.
Man gonna take awhile for me to calm down from this game - - -WHAT A GAME - -both sides really
BShark said:
@kjayhawks 11 turnovers in a game that went to OT. I'd like our chances playing Duke again...
Took really good care of the ball. - -I just can't get over how much better Doke shot the ball from the line. - -I think him seeing this game you would think would have to help his confidence for the future. - -I mean still 5-8 but that's a world of improvement for him
approxinfinity said:
Gotta go hang out with the kids. Bye guys!
Happy Thanksgiving
nwhawkfan said:
Well, back to holiday prep. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving !
ROCK CHALK GOBBLE GOBBLE !!!
Happy Thanksgiving - - have a awesome day - -but stay safe - -need all us KU brothern here for the boys
We are a couple of laughable calls against us vs Duke in 11-12 away from being 3 in a row. I will always remember that game for Bilas even calling out some of those trash calls. I like winning early in the season while some big improvements needed. Dayton is good but probably doesn’t play much better than that the rest of the year.
@kjayhawks Yea. I wish we had that kind of 3 ball. And I sure wish SDS would come around. Rooting for that young man.
@HighEliteMajor rip might not be good🤣
Sick of toppins! Bilas 🤮 doke and d dot 🤩💥
Standing ovation for Dotson and Doke . Hell of an effort and game.
The box score shows Moss played 36 minutes, only took one shot and had 0 points. Kind of reminds me of Grimes.
@stoptheflop Yes we need a lot more from him. Three players scored 78 of our points. GOOD THING!! Need more balance in the future to be really good.
Did he need to shoot today? Doke was 12-15 from the field. Dotson was 11-16. Garrett was 6-10. The game plan was clearly to throw the ball inside to Udoka. When we couldn't, Dotson or Garrett would break down the defense and try to get a layup or get to the free-throw line. I'm glad Moss didn't try to force anything today because he didn't need to. He also had 0 turnovers and played decent defense.
Grimes probably would have tried to get his shots in today. And we probably would have lost because of it.
Elephant in the room -- decision not to foul, up three, when the clock got under 7 seconds. You know, I can assure that this approach will cost us an exit from the NCAA tourney (right, it did, see 2013).
@KirkIsMyHinrich Good point. I noticed yesterday Moss looked off balance on a few of his shots. He may be pretty decent if he will get his feet set, and not rush his shot. We are going to need him to contribute along with Ochai for a balanced offese.
@HighEliteMajor Agree. I can not understand why any defense would allow a 3 point try to tie when under 6 seconds. Was that the Michigan game?
@HighEliteMajor Agree. Have to foul then. Especially with an entire team of 3 pt shooters.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Agree on Moss. I didn't see that he had any open looks. They refused to double Doke and guarded our guys on the perimeter. Mistake. I would have doubled Doke and forced him to kick it out.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes, I did see Moss playing well on defense. I was just surprised he played 36 minutes.
Haha KSU got spanked by Bradley
Okie State popped the Orange by 14. Still unbeaten.
KSU lost by 13 to Bradley tonight.
@HighEliteMajor I was hoping we would try to foul, but maybe HCBS was leery of the 4 pt play or 3 FTs which can provide 2 pts and a putback opportunity. If the player trying to foul isn't guarding exceptionally closely right before fouling, a quick shooter can get a shot away. And Dayton's guys were very quick at it.
I still blame the Michigan game on the pouch punch by EJ, but I get your point.
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Hopefully the guys are enjoying the time there. We don’t have a game til the 7th of December, it will be nice to get rest and time to improve.