Possible KU Targets
Grad Transfer -G- Bryce Aiken- Harvard- Career 16.8 ppg scorer in 4 injury plagued years. Career 85% FT shooter. Career 33% 3 pt shooter.
Grad Transfer -F- Jordan Bruner- Yale- 30% from career from 3, avg 49 blocks over 3 seasons & 7.7 reb per game over 3 years
Grad Transfer -G- Justin Turner- Bowling Green- 37% career from 3, avg 18 ppg for 2 consecutive seasons.
BeddieKU23 said:
Since this is now a real thing mid-season. List at 67 already
Big-12 Departures
Shaun Williams- PG- Kansas St
Reggie Barlow- PF- TCU
Isaac McBride- PG- Kansas- Transfer to Vanderbilt.
Marcedus Leech & Luke Anderson- Anderson transferred to USF
These mostly make sense. Not a lot of B12 players among them.
BeddieKU23 said:
Deshawn Corprew- SF- Texas Tech
Has this kid been anywhere for more than a year? Wild.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Deshawn Corprew- SF- Texas Tech
Has this kid been anywhere for more than a year? Wild.
Nope. Got kicked off Tech before the season. Would have probably had a good season there if he wasn't a knucklehead
You'd have to think you see a UK player defect sometime this season. Juzang, Brooks and Whitney have all gotten off to a rough start. Add Allen into the mix at some point. All play the same position.
Then you have Askew, Fletcher, Boston and Clarke all coming in next year.
Seems like at least two on the current roster will be defects.
Kcmatt7 said:
You'd have to think you see a UK player defect sometime this season. Juzang, Brooks and Whitney have all gotten off to a rough start. Add Allen into the mix at some point. All play the same position.
Then you have Askew, Fletcher, Boston and Clarke all coming in next year.
Seems like at least two on the current roster will be defects.
Wow. Really amazing how Cal manages to stockpile and bury so many 5* guys. Whitney's numbers are rough for a top 10 guy.
Allen looks like a Lightfoot situation possibly though. From Kentucky, a bit lower ranked.
Transfer List over 80 already and its December. Probably be over 100 by end of Xmas Break. Trending to break the record again
BeddieKU23 said:
Transfer List over 80 already and its December. Probably be over 100 by end of Xmas Break. Trending to break the record again
mercy , is it getting TO EASY for kids to transfer? - Seems like kids now days sign with a School, some/more then a few feel like they deserve the starting spot actually without working for it. - Get to the school fin out others just as talented if not more, find out they not getting that playing time - so instead of suckin it up - -working on things they need to improve on to get THAT TIME - they just run - -transfer.
I feel it's ok to transfer if your recruited by a Coach and then you get there and he is Gone, a lot of these kids actually commit to the Coach - - not to the School. so I mean if that's the case then ya, your coming to a school to play for that Coach and then he leaves, no way you should be stuck there. But in other cases I think it's just to easy. However after saying all that - - if a kid is not happy where he is at - -the let him go, I'd rather give a kid his release then to force him to stay and be a Cancer on the team. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Being able to transfer isn’t the issue so much as so many kids wanting to transfer. Either there are a lot of really horrid situations out there or reality hasn’t set in for a crapload of kids. I’m thinking it’s more of the second and it’s a fundamental issue for not just basketball.
@BShark The overall trend will be like permanent free-agency. Why stick around 4 years when you can shop around for a better program or at least one that you might think is a better situation.
Loyalty will no longer be rewarded. In fact, loyalty will be the wrong way to advance or achieve the goals you had in your list.
Mitchell brothers are leaving Maryland.
BShark said:
Mitchell brothers are leaving Maryland.
Wow why?
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Mitchell brothers are leaving Maryland.
Wow why?
Not getting enough PT I guess.
"I want to thank Makhel and Makhi for their contributions to the program. This was a decision we felt was best for both sides and we wish them and their family the best moving forward," Turgeon said in a press release.
In a joint statement, the Mitchells said: "We want to thank coach Turgeon for the opportunity to attend the University of Maryland. We are extremely appreciative of our time in College Park, but decided it was best to seek new opportunity."
The Mitchells who arrived with a reputation for being skilled on the court and charming off of it, but also still maturing and needing discipline. They committed to Maryland before their junior year thanks largely to a relationship with assistant coach Kevin Broadus, who has since left to become the head coach at Morgan State.
Why not? Morgan State is a basketball juggernaut, afterall..... And I heard their academics are top-notch😏
So I wonder, does UA get their money back?
HighEliteMajor said:
So I wonder, does UA get their money back?
Always keep a gift receipt!
Teddy two time Allen ends up at Nebraska. Former West Virginia player that was canned by Huggy bear. Very surprised he got another chance to say the least.
Transfer Portal has already hit 120.
Shaq's son is leaving UCLA. I'd imagine LSU swoosh's in here
I hope we at least pursue that though...
Remember that Shaq was a Reebok dude in the NBA. Just saying. Shaq is worth $400M so they don't NEED the money.
I just think if Bill called we could probably get them to listen.
Kcmatt7 said:
I hope we at least pursue that though...
Remember that Shaq was a Reebok dude in the NBA. Just saying. Shaq is worth $400M so they don't NEED the money.
I just think if Bill called we could probably get them to listen.
KU did recruit him a little bit.
I haven't seen him since he left HS where he looked like an intriguing prospect. A modern big, a lot different from his Dad. I wonder how much his development was impacted by the Heart Issue and losing his freshman year. It's clear he didn't mesh with Cronin well enough to stick it out since he wasn't getting a lot of playing time. Will be interesting to see if he stays West where he's from or tries to find a different situation East.
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
I hope we at least pursue that though...
Remember that Shaq was a Reebok dude in the NBA. Just saying. Shaq is worth $400M so they don't NEED the money.
I just think if Bill called we could probably get them to listen.
KU did recruit him a little bit.
I haven't seen him since he left HS where he looked like an intriguing prospect. A modern big, a lot different from his Dad. I wonder how much his development was impacted by the Heart Issue and losing his freshman year. It's clear he didn't mesh with Cronin well enough to stick it out since he wasn't getting a lot of playing time. Will be interesting to see if he stays West where he's from or tries to find a different situation East.
Yea I think he still has his intrigue considering all of the things he's had to go through this year. And I think Cronin is such a smashmouth basketball guy. Even worse than Self or Tony Bennett. That is definitely not a natural fit for his skillset.
I do wonder if he's willing to leave the coast. It's likely he wouldn't have to. USC, Oregon, Arizona and Gonzaga would all be places he could go and would lean into his skillset.
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
I hope we at least pursue that though...
Remember that Shaq was a Reebok dude in the NBA. Just saying. Shaq is worth $400M so they don't NEED the money.
I just think if Bill called we could probably get them to listen.
KU did recruit him a little bit.
I haven't seen him since he left HS where he looked like an intriguing prospect. A modern big, a lot different from his Dad. I wonder how much his development was impacted by the Heart Issue and losing his freshman year. It's clear he didn't mesh with Cronin well enough to stick it out since he wasn't getting a lot of playing time. Will be interesting to see if he stays West where he's from or tries to find a different situation East.
Yea I think he still has his intrigue considering all of the things he's had to go through this year. And I think Cronin is such a smashmouth basketball guy. Even worse than Self or Tony Bennett. That is definitely not a natural fit for his skillset.
I do wonder if he's willing to leave the coast. It's likely he wouldn't have to. USC, Oregon, Arizona and Gonzaga would all be places he could go and would lean into his skillset.
Could he transfer in-conference though since he's not a graduate.
San Diego St could be an option with the season they are having
We do really need another big.
@Kcmatt7 I’m ok with the four guard. I’m ok with the right 4 too - Darrell Arthur, Julian Wright, Marcus Morris. You can’t tell me they wouldn’t make this team better. Or a Wiggins/ Jackson type. (as much as Jackson bitched about being played out of position, he sure did better under Bill than in the nba. So was he really out of position for his skill set?)
With what's returning playing 4 guards is the way to go. Garrett, Thompson, Agbaji, Braun, Enaruna- that's the core of the team right there in the backcourt. That's without mentioning Harris & Wilson. We don't need 7 guys fighting for 3 spots so it would seem natural that the staff tries to cross develop Tristan/Wilson due to their height as the 4th guard. That way you still have 5 guards for 3 spots.
I think a transfer big that's athletic and has some skill around the rim would really give this group a boost. I think Dave will continue to get better but I just don't see him being able to do it on his own. The drop off from Doke is looking scary next season. I am intrigued by 5th year Prison Mitch. We know what intangibles he brings. He was developing a 3 pointer in year 3. I see him being a matchup 4 and Dave's primary backup at the 5. But that's where a veteran big that could play 10-12 minutes a game could be handy. If Silvio doesn't return we are not that big of a team and I think Self would explore getting a 6'9 + guy. I see Muscadin as a redshirt candidate.
There is a lack of options at the moment. Unless JT Thor becomes an option again the Top 100 is bare for any impact bigs. Maybe Self can find an Euro that is ready to go or just get involved with any bigs that come available in the spring through the coaching carousel or the transfer market.
Khalil Whitney leaving UK. He was always pretty soft on them. Bet he ends up at Illinois, where he wanted to go in the first place.
Wow that's surprising that Cal can't stockpile 7 wings and keep them all happy.
BeddieKU23 said:
Wow that's surprising that Cal can't stockpile 7 wings and keep them all happy.
I know it's stunning
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Wow that's surprising that Cal can't stockpile 7 wings and keep them all happy.
I know it's stunning
Illini are full up right now but if Whitney comes calling those things will work themselves out
Kcmatt7 said:
You'd have to think you see a UK player defect sometime this season. Juzang, Brooks and Whitney have all gotten off to a rough start. Add Allen into the mix at some point. All play the same position.
Then you have Askew, Fletcher, Boston and Clarke all coming in next year.
Seems like at least two on the current roster will be defects.
God I'm good.
Kcmatt7 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
You'd have to think you see a UK player defect sometime this season. Juzang, Brooks and Whitney have all gotten off to a rough start. Add Allen into the mix at some point. All play the same position.
Then you have Askew, Fletcher, Boston and Clarke all coming in next year.
Seems like at least two on the current roster will be defects.
God I'm good.
What else you got?
Can you predict a National Championship for the good guys. I suggest you make it happen
The funny part in Whitney leaving UK at least for now is that him leaving didn't necessarily indicate he was transferring. His stock has plummeted to late 2nd round (and that's a bunch of bologna in itself). Wonder if he blames Cal, ha.
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
You'd have to think you see a UK player defect sometime this season. Juzang, Brooks and Whitney have all gotten off to a rough start. Add Allen into the mix at some point. All play the same position.
Then you have Askew, Fletcher, Boston and Clarke all coming in next year.
Seems like at least two on the current roster will be defects.
God I'm good.
What else you got?
Can you predict a National Championship for the good guys. I suggest you make it happen
If KU makes it to the tournament healthy, I will literally put my money on it...
I'm going to roll my Chiefs winnings right on over lol.
BeddieKU23 said:
The funny part in Whitney leaving UK at least for now is that him leaving didn't necessarily indicate he was transferring. His stock has plummeted to late 2nd round (and that's a bunch of bologna in itself). Wonder if he blames Cal, ha.
Yea I didn't read his statement as him transferring. I think he goes pro.
Another feather in Cal's cap. Don't even need minutes to be drafted derp.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Wow that's surprising that Cal can't stockpile 7 wings and keep them all happy.
I know it's stunning
Kind of what Coach K did for years, and it did not work out well for him either. Only after he woke up recruiting wise did he once again get back to being Duke.
Portal has hit over 150.. The next 2-3 months will be another crazy ride
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Portal has hit over 150.. The next 2-3 months will be another crazy ride
Grad transfer market is going to be fire
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
I'd rather just roll with what we have but I could see Tristan or Silvio transferring.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
I'd rather just roll with what we have but I could see Tristan or Silvio transferring.
Ideally nobody leaves, and don’t think they will as of today. Thinking more the Jossell spot if we medical him.
Definitely need a rim protector
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
I'd rather just roll with what we have but I could see Tristan or Silvio transferring.
I'm just wondering if Silvio doesn't make SOME kind of move after this year
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
I'd rather just roll with what we have but I could see Tristan or Silvio transferring.
I'm just wondering if Silvio doesn't make SOME kind of move after this year
Hope not. He’s got a big role next year.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk We don't need a guard or likely anyone but Bryce Aiken will grad transfer. Good player, injury prone.
Heck of a shooter. Would be a great bench piece if we get a spot. Would like another big (rim protector ideally) if we go the transfer route.
I'd rather just roll with what we have but I could see Tristan or Silvio transferring.
I'm just wondering if Silvio doesn't make SOME kind of move after this year
Hope not. He’s got a big role next year.
very true, I think he could really help out. - -take the Summer and really work on his game, come in next year and be able to contribute. - we are for sure having a drop off at the 5 next year. - - Dave is ok lie he helped today gave some minutes - - got some boards scored but we going to have to do it at our 5 by Committee next year I think
I'm not sold on BD yet. He has his moments. I definitely like him. Fouls! We r really gonna miss doke and dot. Gotta get 🏆 this year. Anxious to have Bryce!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I'm not sold on BD yet. He has his moments. I definitely like him. Fouls!
Players do improve.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/thomas-robinson-2.html ↗
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
We r really gonna miss doke and dot.
Of course. Best two players on the team by a lot. Probably just by coincidence our two highest rated players.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I'm not sold on BD yet. He has his moments. I definitely like him. Fouls! We r really gonna miss doke and dot. Gotta get 🏆 this year. Anxious to have Bryce!
I'm there with you.
My hope is he can improve on certain areas of his game mostly defense. He is more modern big then Doke but he tries hard and we know he will put in work. I think this team needs another big that can compliment him. Mitch will give us his role but we need another rim running athlete ready to go.
@BeddieKU23 Silvio?
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 Silvio?
I think he is too raw at this point. I'm just not sure he has the BBIQ we need next to dave next year. I hope he sticks it out and proves it wrong
@BeddieKU23 well I don't want another big starting anyway. I think Silvio as a back-up center is pretty good.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 well I don't want another big starting anyway. I think Silvio as a back-up center is pretty good.
Yeah I said this with the assumption we stay 4 guards. I guess maybe a platoon of Dave, Silvio and Prison M could work.. we will have to hope our guard play doesn't see a drop off and either Tristan/Wilson take a big step forward
@BeddieKU23 Next year won’t be like this year, for sure. But it’ll be interesting seeing the roster churn and how Self manages it to get the most complete team he can by this time next season.
@BeddieKU23 @FarmerJayhawk https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/seth-towns-1.html ↗
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Grad transfer and KU is involved.
Obviously he has been hurt for awhile so you have to make sure he is fully recovered.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Obviously he has been hurt for awhile so you have to make sure he is fully recovered.
Good player when healthy. A leading scorer type
Not sure how seriously involved we are, but seemingly in his top six hoping Farmer knows more.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 @FarmerJayhawk https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/seth-towns-1.html ↗
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Grad transfer and KU is involved.
Transfer insurance. We’re covering a bunch of bases in case free agency happens effective next season. Nice player when healthy, but there’s no spot as of today.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
in case free agency happens effective next season.
Would be pretty gross if that happened. And funny at the same time that when some people are thinking things are cleaned up that they will get even dirtier.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
in case free agency happens effective next season.
Would be pretty gross if that happened. And funny at the same time that when some people are thinking things are cleaned up that they will get even dirtier.
I’m fine with it. Ideally they’d wait a year to give everyone more time to prepare. I don’t want a bum rush in August with 1000 dudes entering the portal.
@FarmerJayhawk I think it's okay as long as it comes with some caveats. Maybe guys can only transfer once or it's only free once.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk I think it's okay as long as it comes with some caveats. Maybe guys can only transfer once or it's only free once.
Yeah it’ll be a one time exception, mirroring the policy in most other NCAA sports.
@FarmerJayhawk an yeah that makes sense then.
Juco national tourney site
https://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2019-20/div1/national_championship/index ↗
Mass exodus of players leaving marsha..
@BeddieKU23 yearly tradition at this point! This year includes their two best players both only sophomores. All three of their double digit scorers will be gone (the other was a sr).
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 yearly tradition at this point! This year includes their two best players both only sophomores. All three of their double digit scorers will be gone (the other was a sr).
Couldn't happen to a better coach
@BeddieKU23 Wichitards are of course being delusional about this. First of all you don't just lose your two best players to transfer, that NEVER happens unless you are a very low level school and we are talking grad transfer. Look at all Self transfers, they were deep bench guys. Stevenson has been, apparently, pretty vocal since leaving and throwing mud on the coaching staff. Almost like gregggggg is a big douche and even some of his players have had enough.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 Wichitards are of course being delusional about this. First of all you don't just lose your two best players to transfer, that NEVER happens unless you are a very low level school and we are talking grad transfer. Look at all Self transfers, they were deep bench guys. Stevenson has been, apparently, pretty vocal since leaving and throwing mud on the coaching staff. Almost like gregggggg is a big douche and even some of his players have had enough.
I agree the pattern has been established since van vleet and baker left that the kids are not sticking around because of him. Crazy
From reading the BAGLE - from what I read looks like there are FOUR transferring out, boy Marsha time to take a swig from the ol ladies bottle maybe TWO roflmao
@jayballer73 mmmm bagel
Jalen Carey leaving Cuse. Really wanted him out of HS.. Been injured a lot since getting to campus
Landers Nolley leaving Virginia Tech. Averaged 15 and 5 as a red-shirt freshman. Going to receive a TON of interest
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Landers Nolley leaving Virginia Tech. Averaged 15 and 5 as a red-shirt freshman. Going to receive a TON of interest
Was just about to post this. Kind of a hollow stats guy, but will definitely get big interest.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Landers Nolley leaving Virginia Tech. Averaged 15 and 5 as a red-shirt freshman. Going to receive a TON of interest
Was just about to post this. Kind of a hollow stats guy, but will definitely get big interest.
Good shooter though. 68 made 3's, near 80% from the line. Decent assists for a wing/4 stretch man. Saw him play multiple times this season and he was damn good for a red-shirt freshman.
Transfer List near 300 already
Throwback name. Taurean Thompson in the portal 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Throwback name. Taurean Thompson in the portal 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Wow didn't realize he was still around. Didn't make an impact at Seton Hall.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Throwback name. Taurean Thompson in the portal 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Yikes at his stats. Looks like we dodged a bullet there though I'm guessing he would have been processed by Bill long ago.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Throwback name. Taurean Thompson in the portal 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Yikes at his stats. Looks like we dodged a bullet there though I'm guessing he would have been processed by Bill long ago.
That was a weird ass recruitment too. I think it went into June
We’re keeping tabs on Bryce Aiken
@FarmerJayhawk Pretttty good player, worthwhile even if we don't end up having room.
Better then Jossell
@BeddieKU23 Well yeah.
Kevin Marfo in the portal. Leading rebounder in the country at 13 a game. 6-8 245. Pretty much the universe has contacted him
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Kevin Marfo in the portal. Leading rebounder in the country at 13 a game. 6-8 245. Pretty much the universe has contacted him
Nice player. Quinnipiac known more for political polling than basketball but I’d take him for sure if we have a spot due to unexpected transfer.
WICHITAAAAAAAAAA.
Had high hopes for this kid 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Had high hopes for this kid 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
We wanted him! Damn he really did nothing at ISU and if you can't see the floor on this current ISU roster well yeah.
portal approaching 350
rumors Matthew Hurt transferring from Duke. Oh no Daddy Hurt not getting PAID anymore with Stanley's poppa??
Is he allowed to transfer to a non-Nike school?
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Is he allowed to transfer to a non-Nike school?
Highly Doubtful. Once you go Nike you never go back
Generally no. Notice Grimes and Bragg transferred to Adidas schools.
@dylans said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark Until the second transfer for Bragg when he went to the Lobos (Nike).
Double transferring breaks the contract apparently. That and they knew he wasn't getting drafted
@BeddieKU23 ...didn’t want him anymore.
@BeddieKU23 Has NM kicked him off the team yet?
@dylans said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 Has NM kicked him off the team yet?
yes indeed. He was a perfect 3-3
Wow that's very sad.
Don’t think Hurt is going anywhere. But these are strange times and could see it happening. Also, KU isn’t really in on Towns from what I gather
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Don’t think Hurt is going anywhere. But these are strange times and could see it happening. Also, KU isn’t really in on Towns from what I gather
He has been taking to ku coach
I've been thinking I'd much rather add Aiken:
Aiken, Thompson, Garrett, Braun/Wilson/Enaruna/TGF, McCormack. That team can shoot the lights out
Ah jeez, brohood leftovers? Can Self teach a brohood how to play D?
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I've been thinking I'd much rather add Aiken:
Aiken, Thompson, Garrett, Braun/Wilson/Enaruna/TGF, McCormack. That team can shoot the lights out
Aiken replacing Jossell would be littttt.
Somebody said Caleb grille was transferring? I thought isu was his dream school. Would he come back home? WSU. Read it on a WSU site, 🤷♀️
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Somebody said Caleb grille was transferring? I thought isu was his dream school. Would he come back home? WSU. Read it on a WSU site, 🤷♀️
Yep, he is in the portal.
@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Don’t think Hurt is going anywhere. But these are strange times and could see it happening. Also, KU isn’t really in on Towns from what I gather
He has been taking to ku coach
Hurt has been talking to KU Coach's ? - man I dunno I think I would have a hard time seeing anything happenings because of the probability of KU & Probation and Hurt's Mommie & Daddie with that.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Somebody said Caleb grille was transferring? I thought isu was his dream school. Would he come back home? WSU. Read it on a WSU site, 🤷♀️
Yep, he is in the portal.
The American conference seems more his speed.
@Crimsonorblue22 why? He sucks lol.
Local athlete
Ok so here is the question, seen this tossed around a little. - How seriously does anyone think Hut would consider transferring to KU ?
Didn't pay it a lot of thought , did my typical trolling of other boards checking out different aticles. Of course the best was the UK board. - -A lot of talk. One poster said he probably shouldn't say anything but HE KNEW why Hurt WAS transferring out. - -And of Course got pounded people asking him why?
His answer was it was all in some leaked video/audio something to that effect, Hurt said that he didn't feel he had been treated right. - -Has taken his Duke profile pic down I guess. A lot of UK fans saying that they thought that he would end up transferring to KU. I don't know just a lot of talk about him coming here, how KU was a heavy lean for him in the beginning and such. Someone had mentioned that he had talked to KU staff ( would that be tampering if KU had talked to him ) - again just asking I dunno.
There was some said he would be perfect fit for Gonzaga - - maybe Minnesota , but most talked more either KU or Gonzaga - then some said Gonzaga was loaded at the 4 - -KU would be looking for. a stretch 4 Kind of funny kind of went hand in hand with the way to early 2021 rankings.
Baylor 4th - - KU 8th an ( article saying KU would be looking around for a stretch 4, falls right in line for Hurt ) but he wouldn't be eligible next year right ? - - Texas Tech 15th & West Virginia 17th for 2021.
Soo could this become a serious thing or some people just blowin smoke ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Ok so here is the question, seen this tossed around a little. - How seriously does anyone think Hut would consider transferring to KU ?
Didn't pay it a lot of thought , did my typical trolling of other boards checking out different aticles. Of course the best was the UK board. - -A lot of talk. One poster said he probably shouldn't say anything but HE KNEW why Hurt WAS transferring out. - -And of Course got pounded people asking him why?
His answer was it was all in some leaked video/audio something to that effect, Hurt said that he didn't feel he had been treated right. - -Has taken his Duke profile pic down I guess. A lot of UK fans saying that they thought that he would end up transferring to KU. I don't know just a lot of talk about him coming here, how KU was a heavy lean for him in the beginning and such. Someone had mentioned that he had talked to KU staff ( would that be tampering if KU had talked to him ) - again just asking I dunno.
There was some said he would be perfect fit for Gonzaga - - maybe Minnesota , but most talked more either KU or Gonzaga - then some said Gonzaga was loaded at the 4 - -KU would be looking for. a stretch 4 Kind of funny kind of went hand in hand with the way to early 2021 rankings.
Baylor 4th - - KU 8th an ( article saying KU would be looking around for a stretch 4, falls right in line for Hurt ) but he wouldn't be eligible next year right ? - - Texas Tech 15th & West Virginia 17th for 2021.
Soo could this become a serious thing or some people just blowin smoke ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hurt isn’t coming to KU, and probably not even leaving Dook barring the immediate eligibility rule being in effect for next year.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
WANT https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jordan-bruner-1.html ↗
Don't tease me.
we want this guy?
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
we want this guy?
I do for sure. This dude can play. No idea if there’s any interest from either side or not yet.
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
we want this guy?
absf'nlutely. Bruner is really good! Inside/Outside Big.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
we want this guy?
I do for sure. This dude can play. No idea if there’s any interest from either side or not yet.
Nailed it. Can really shoot the 3. A bit of D-Lawson game but not as slow mo
Alterique Gilbert in the portal.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Alterique Gilbert in the portal.
Not surprised he went through 9 lives there.
Terrance Lewis from Iowa St in.
Another Wichita defect. Morris Odeze
Trey McGowens in portal from Pitt. Averaged double figures and started a lot of games. Wonder if he tries to join his lil bro in 21 at FSU
Elias King- 4 star prospect leaving Miss St after 1 year.
Portal will probably hit close to 400 hundy by tomorrow
@BeddieKU23 what is happening in Ames and Wichita???!
Ku has reached out to Burner from Yale
Also former 5* guard DJ Carton is in the portal
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
Ku has reached out to Burner from Yale
Also former 5* guard DJ Carton is in the portal
Awesome news.
Carton is big time.
Burner is gonna have a ton of action. Wants to showcase his game. Well KU is that place my friend
Burner. Hope he’s quick. That would be fun.
I'm ready for going from being hopeful& the would be nice from the sounds of it to ACTUALLY getting one to land here -how would that be? ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
How do we know Bryce Aiken do not play defense
Defensive Rebound %: 7.9
Steal %: 1.7
Block %: 0.0
Defensive Rating: 103.5
Defense Box +/-: -2.7
In the Ivy
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
He's also hurt more than Udoka. Defense would definitely be an issue on a roster that will otherwise have all above average (at a minimum) defenders outside of Jalen Wilson. I think it boils down to how confident the staff is in Harris. If they think he can soak up minutes if needed, then I think we have enough actual guards (Garrett, Thompson, Harris).
Bruner it depends on Silvio I would think. I think Silvio stays but if he doesn't we need another big.
Watch some film on him. Report back
Defensively you might have a point but he is wired to score. There is a reason he is being targeted by a lot of big programs
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
Because he's an elite scorer and shooter. 40% from 3 his last full season, 87% from the line. Assists would obviously go up because he's surrounded by a lot better players. We need scoring on next year's squad, and he'd be electric.
Towns down to dook (ew) and Ohio St. It'll be OSU.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Towns down to dook (ew) and Ohio St. It'll be OSU.
That home town pull. tOSU is basically a cult.
RE your take on Aiken: could definitely use some scoring punch. If we are trading Jossell for him it's a no brainer.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
Because he's an elite scorer and shooter. 40% from 3 his last full season, 87% from the line. Assists would obviously go up because he's surrounded by a lot better players. We need scoring on next year's squad, and he'd be electric.
Ya, I'm not buying that his assists are going to go up just because he's surrounded by better players. Charlie Moore's assist percentage at Cal (27.4) went way down when he came to Kansas (16.0) and then shot back up again when he transferred to DePaul (34.3). His assists might go up, but it's not a given.
He might be an elite shooter, he's not an elite scorer. His career average is 16.8 points with 40.6/34.7/85.3 shooting splits. Nobody who barely eclipses 40% shooting from the field in the ivy league is going to be an elite scorer in the B12. In his best season, he averaged 22.2 points with 43.4/39.8/85.5 shooting splits, and he attempted more than 15 field goals per game. That 39.8% from 3 is the best-case scenario, and he won't get near the volume on Kansas that he did on Harvard.
So a guy whose only value to us would be shooting 3-pointers, might shoot 39.8% on low-volume while not doing much else and being a liability on defense. I think that ends up being a net negative for us. Like why even bother? Let's just play the guys we have now. We have good players. If you want to give Aiken the 0 mpg that we were going to give Jossell next season then that's fine I guess.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
Because he's an elite scorer and shooter. 40% from 3 his last full season, 87% from the line. Assists would obviously go up because he's surrounded by a lot better players. We need scoring on next year's squad, and he'd be electric.
Ya, I'm not buying that his assists are going to go up just because he's surrounded by better players. Charlie Moore's assist percentage at Cal (27.4) went way down when he came to Kansas (16.0) and then shot back up again when he transferred to DePaul (34.3). His assists might go up, but it's not a given.
He might be an elite shooter, he's not an elite scorer. His career average is 16.8 points with 40.6/34.7/85.3 shooting splits. Nobody who barely eclipses 40% shooting from the field in the ivy league is going to be an elite scorer in the B12. In his best season, he averaged 22.2 points with 43.4/39.8/85.5 shooting splits, and he attempted more than 15 field goals per game. That 39.8% from 3 is the best-case scenario, and he won't get near the volume on Kansas that he did on Harvard.
So a guy whose only value to us would be shooting 3-pointers, might shoot 39.8% on low-volume while not doing much else and being a liability on defense. I think that ends up being a net negative for us. Like why even bother? Let's just play the guys we have now. We have good players. If you want to give Aiken the 0 mpg that we were going to give Jossell next season then that's fine I gues
Well not sure but I think I could live with THAT 16.8 ppg for sure - that's good enough for me for sure - -don't give a rats ass about how ELITE that is - -don't need ELITE got enough others to help with that. - - 39.8 from 3 works fine - just like Moss right at same range - since the moved the line back, your not finding a lot of players shooting a hell of a lot better for sure respectable enough to keep the defense honest. - I and I think quite a few others would be more then happy to take him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
Because he's an elite scorer and shooter. 40% from 3 his last full season, 87% from the line. Assists would obviously go up because he's surrounded by a lot better players. We need scoring on next year's squad, and he'd be electric.
Ya, I'm not buying that his assists are going to go up just because he's surrounded by better players. Charlie Moore's assist percentage at Cal (27.4) went way down when he came to Kansas (16.0) and then shot back up again when he transferred to DePaul (34.3). His assists might go up, but it's not a given.
He might be an elite shooter, he's not an elite scorer. His career average is 16.8 points with 40.6/34.7/85.3 shooting splits. Nobody who barely eclipses 40% shooting from the field in the ivy league is going to be an elite scorer in the B12. In his best season, he averaged 22.2 points with 43.4/39.8/85.5 shooting splits, and he attempted more than 15 field goals per game. That 39.8% from 3 is the best-case scenario, and he won't get near the volume on Kansas that he did on Harvard.
So a guy whose only value to us would be shooting 3-pointers, might shoot 39.8% on low-volume while not doing much else and being a liability on defense. I think that ends up being a net negative for us. Like why even bother? Let's just play the guys we have now. We have good players. If you want to give Aiken the 0 mpg that we were going to give Jossell next season then that's fine I guess.
Using career numbers is weird for Aiken because he’s really only been a full time starter for one year.
Aiken is a much better player than Moore. Last full season he was 8 points better from 3, 5 points better from 2, 6 better from the line. Ends up a 10 point difference in TS% on really high volume. I’ll take that every day. His TO% was less than Moore with much higher usage. All while defenses were keying on him every night. For a team that will struggle some on offense, why not add one of the best scorers out there? He’ll have a lower 2 point% just because he scores a lot off the bounce. He’ll get much better looks at KU.
I’m less worried about defense. Self is an elite defensive coach, and if he can get Isaiah Moss of all people to develop into a decent defender he can get Aiken to defend.
Shooting is like pitching in baseball. You think you have enough, add one more.
The biggest issue with Aiken is he has never played a full season, ever.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020 Transfer List:
Why do we want Bryce Aiken again? He's 6'0'' and doesn't play defense. He averages more turnovers than assists and doesn't rebound. Career 34.7% from 3. He's Charlie Moore with slightly better shooting and worse passing and rebounding.
Carton and Bruner seem decent but I don't think either guy moves the needle that much for us.
Because he's an elite scorer and shooter. 40% from 3 his last full season, 87% from the line. Assists would obviously go up because he's surrounded by a lot better players. We need scoring on next year's squad, and he'd be electric.
Ya, I'm not buying that his assists are going to go up just because he's surrounded by better players. Charlie Moore's assist percentage at Cal (27.4) went way down when he came to Kansas (16.0) and then shot back up again when he transferred to DePaul (34.3). His assists might go up, but it's not a given.
He might be an elite shooter, he's not an elite scorer. His career average is 16.8 points with 40.6/34.7/85.3 shooting splits. Nobody who barely eclipses 40% shooting from the field in the ivy league is going to be an elite scorer in the B12. In his best season, he averaged 22.2 points with 43.4/39.8/85.5 shooting splits, and he attempted more than 15 field goals per game. That 39.8% from 3 is the best-case scenario, and he won't get near the volume on Kansas that he did on Harvard.
So a guy whose only value to us would be shooting 3-pointers, might shoot 39.8% on low-volume while not doing much else and being a liability on defense. I think that ends up being a net negative for us. Like why even bother? Let's just play the guys we have now. We have good players. If you want to give Aiken the 0 mpg that we were going to give Jossell next season then that's fine I guess.
Using career numbers is weird for Aiken because he’s really only been a full time starter for one year.
Aiken is a much better player than Moore. Last full season he was 8 points better from 3, 5 points better from 2, 6 better from the line. Ends up a 10 point difference in TS% on really high volume. I’ll take that every day. His TO% was less than Moore with much higher usage. All while defenses were keying on him every night. For a team that will struggle some on offense, why not add one of the best scorers out there? He’ll have a lower 2 point% just because he scores a lot off the bounce. He’ll get much better looks at KU.
I’m less worried about defense. Self is an elite defensive coach, and if he can get Isaiah Moss of all people to develop into a decent defender he can get Aiken to defend.
Shooting is like pitching in baseball. You think you have enough, add one more.
27.8 minutes and 11.4 field goal attempts per game as a freshman. 27.7 minutes and 10.9 field goal attempts per game as a sophomore. 32.8 minutes and 15.1 field goal attempts per game as a junior. 25.6 minutes and 12.1 field goal attempts last season. 23 games started as freshman/sophomore/last season, 17 games started as a junior. 1291 minutes played as a freshman/sophomore/last season, 591 minutes played as a junior. Why wouldn't I use career stats? He's played starters minutes every season at Harvard.
Aiken is a better scorer and shooter than Moore, I agree. He has a lower TOV% than Moore but he also has a lower AST% and STL%.
Aiken's TS% is a lot better than Moore's, but most players TS% is a lot better than Moore's. Marcus Garrett has a higher TS% than Moore. Devon Dotson has a higher TS% than Aiken.
Overall there are just a lot of ifs. If Aiken shoots around 40% from 3, and if he can play defense, and if he can stay healthy... If he can do those things, and especially the first two, then I'd love to have him. I don't think he can but I guess why not take a shot, right? What do we have to lose?
I'm a Colorado Rockies fan so pitching analogies do nothing for me.
I think they are keeping interest warm looking for a guard that can shoot and be a play-maker. Self is looking at having Garrett & Harris at PG and neither one is a reliable shooter. Aiken is a shot maker from all over the court especially from the perimeter. That's a different skill set that adds value to a team, the same way Moss added value to this years team.
I don't think Aiken will end up at KU since Garrett is at PG and Thompson has a high probability of starting as a freshman. I'd imagine Aiken is looking for a place to start among his choices. He was a 4 star prospect out of high school and had Power 5 teams after him before going to Harvard. The only reason he's transferring is because of Ivy league's rules preventing him from playing another year. He was a beloved teammate and loved by his coach. He sounds like the right type of fit for a player Self wants in a transfer. If he did seriously consider KU I think you take him. He would add a competitive, experienced body to the rotation and he brings something to the table that is missing on the current roster. Otherwise Self will have to rely a lot on a freshman to make plays. Ochai hasn't shown he's a consistent enough player on offense. Braun showed great potential but was playing the "4" man primarily when he was on the floor. I can see why Self is looking for a play-maker.
At least two players will be leaving Michigan.
They are expecting to land Josh Cristopher. Between him and Todd, Michigan is definitely investing in hoops.
Tray Jackson transferring from Missouri. Interesting to see where he ends up, has potential.
Alex O'Connell is leaving the brotherhood.
@jayballer73 yes
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Alex O'Connell is leaving the brotherhood.
I assumed they were going to have some transfers or someone leave early that they weren’t expecting. I’ve seen Duke listed with more transfers and grad transfers than ever before.
I think with how CBB is constructed now your best bet to fill your roster is to leave 1 if not 2 spots open and fill them with grad and or regular transfers. There is a ton of talent out there to be had.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Alex O'Connell is leaving the brotherhood.
Good. Couldn't stand him.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
At least two players will be leaving Michigan.
They are expecting to land Josh Cristopher. Between him and Todd, Michigan is definitely investing in hoops.
$$vesting
@BeddieKU23 do we like any duke brotherhood guys?🥴
@Crimsonorblue22 no not really
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 do we like any duke brotherhood guys?🥴
🤮🤮🤮🤮
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 do we like any duke brotherhood guys?🥴
good point.
Tre Jones declared.
Duke is gonna suck.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Duke is gonna suck.
Well we know their good at that - -just ask Grayson lol
Seth Towns picked Ohio St
14 games with 20+. Not an efficient scorer.. Too many games with 1-11 type lines. 37% 3 point shooter in his career on 400 attempts
Portal over 425. It's still March
@FarmerJayhawk @BeddieKU23 Looks like a better fit than Aiken to me.
original post edited to include possible targets. please add others that KU is involved with
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk @BeddieKU23 Looks like a better fit than Aiken to me.
Bigger player, 6'4. Also dealt with injury last season. Some really big games, some really bad games. Not a high volume 3 pt shooter
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk @BeddieKU23 Looks like a better fit than Aiken to me.
Bigger player, 6'4. Also dealt with injury last season. Some really big games, some really bad games. Not a high volume 3 pt shooter
I like what I see here. We can always use more ball handling. The decline in FG% last year is concerning but he wouldn’t need to take as many guarded shots here.
https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu/2019/05/29/justin-turner-bgsu-bowling-green-basketball-nba-draft-return/stories/20190529160 ↗
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk @BeddieKU23 Looks like a better fit than Aiken to me.
Bigger player, 6'4. Also dealt with injury last season. Some really big games, some really bad games. Not a high volume 3 pt shooter
I like what I see here. We can always use more ball handling. The decline in FG% last year is concerning but he wouldn’t need to take as many guarded shots here.
https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu/2019/05/29/justin-turner-bgsu-bowling-green-basketball-nba-draft-return/stories/20190529160 ↗
Sign us up now.. hello
I like his highlight reel. Looks like he could help KU next season. Bill might look at it and say 5 minutes of highlights and only one steal?!? Lol
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 what is happening in Ames and Wichita???!
You got that right. Seems to be a fire sale going on.
Didn’t make the top 15 for Marfo.
@FarmerJayhawk lol top 15
Yeah I don't think we add a post player. Just roll with what we have.
@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 what is happening in Ames and Wichita???!
You got that right. Seems to be a fire sale going on.
Soooo who all is departing Ames?
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Didn’t make the top 15 for Marfo.
Yikes, he's really going to choose from 15 "strong a**" offers
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk lol top 15
Yeah I don't think we add a post player. Just roll with what we have.
Bruner would be an intriguing big here..
Turner, Bruner, or Aiken would be awesome if we needed a dude. https://watchstadium.com/top-20-college-basketball-transfers-who-can-play-in-2020-21-03-24-2020/ ↗
@jayballer73 everyone, it seems.
I don’t see why we would need another player at this point. We have a really good starting 5. With garret, Ochi, Thompson, lightfoot, McCormick. We will play 2 big guys with a true power forward in lightfoot and play some combination of 4 guards with all of our small forwards in braun, tristian, wilson, and the new highly ranked juco guard. You have another pg in Freshman Harris. Silvio will be the main big guy off the bench with the freshman big guy gethro possibly playing or redshirting. We don’t need some mid major guy playing ahead of higher upside guys. We saw what Braun can do, but the other small forwards have high upside and will impact the program long term not one year!
Self just said he plans to play small majority of the time to take advantage of the roster full of perimeter players. Did mention that Mitch would give them the ability to play traditional if needed since he is more mobile then Dave/Silvio.
To get the best 5 of the floor its 4 guards and a big. I do think another impact guard or big would give this team a little something extra. Moss did that for this past years squad. The right fit absolutely adds value
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Self just said he plans to play small majority of the time to take advantage of the roster full of perimeter players. Did mention that Mitch would give them the ability to play traditional if needed since he is more mobile then Dave/Silvio.
To get the best 5 of the floor its 4 guards and a big. I do think another impact guard or big would give this team a little something extra. Moss did that for this past years squad. The right fit absolutely adds value
We got a lot of guys but we might not have a dude. Turner looks like a dude to me.
Transfer List rapidly approaching 500
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/carlik-jones-1.html ↗
Guessing this will be a highly contested one for his services.
I was about to post about this, too. Definitely want.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/carlik-jones-1.html ↗
Guessing this will be a highly contested one for his services.
Wow. stats look really really good
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/carlik-jones-1.html ↗
Yes PLEASE. Either Jones or Turner would be a huge upgrade over Jossell.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/carlik-jones-1.html ↗
Yes PLEASE. Either Jones or Turner would be a huge upgrade over Jossell.
I think either would be a candidate to start. Haven't seen that KU has contacted Jones but I've not been on Twitter much today.
The brothahood added grad transfer Patrick Tape from Columbia. 6'10 big that scores around the basket.
Wow Jones has terrific vision. Not a volume trey ball shooter but have to love his improvement over dreadful shooting there in his first 2 years. You pair him with Garrett & Thompson... wowza
20 ppg on 14 shots a game is big time.
Doesn't sound like KU is really going after any transfers as of today. Doing some reaching out, but nobody has been offered or anything like that.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Doesn't sound like KU is really going after any transfers as of today. Doing some reaching out, but nobody has been offered or anything like that.
Lines up with what Bill told CJ Moore.
Poor Bruce 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Poor Bruce 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Hate to see it.
Gotta think this one happens the day after their season ends if not for the Rona.
KSU loses their best 3 players off an 11 win team...
So happy to see him gone from the league but he was the perfect bruce
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Doesn't sound like KU is really going after any transfers as of today. Doing some reaching out, but nobody has been offered or anything like that.
There's not really the one thing KU truly needs for next season out there and that's a deadeye shooter. Unless a deadeye shooter becomes available, I'm fine with KU keeping what they have for next season.
Stevenson From WSU - - lands back in Washington - I think they said Washington St
Just Washington
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Interesting Stat:
A year ago, 14 mid-major players who averaged in double-figures during the 18-19 season opted to grad transfer to power conferences.
None averaged in double-figures last season.
@dylans said in 2020 Transfer List:
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothsteinInteresting Stat:
A year ago, 14 mid-major players who averaged in double-figures during the 18-19 season opted to grad transfer to power conferences.
None averaged in double-figures last season.
Missed one, Jon! https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/haanif-cheatham-1.html ↗
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Doesn't sound like KU is really going after any transfers as of today. Doing some reaching out, but nobody has been offered or anything like that.
There's not really the one thing KU truly needs for next season out there and that's a deadeye shooter. Unless a deadeye shooter becomes available, I'm fine with KU keeping what they have for next season.
For sure. Just looking at guys we could be interested in if Jossell gets medical’d or there’s an unexpected departure. But I think the most likely scenario by a good margin is we roll with the 13 we have. Only other variable is Moss since the NCAA still could grant seniors and graduates another season.
Portal hit over 500.
The NCAA will vote at end of April on immediate 1 time transfer. If that happens expect KU roster movement
@BeddieKU23 who?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 who?
Yeah I disagree, I don't think anyone is leaving KU after this season.
Justin Turner released a Top 6, KU wasn't on it.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 who?
Yeah I disagree, I don't think anyone is leaving KU after this season.
I think its still a possibility. We'll see how it plays out
@BeddieKU23 who u thinking?
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Justin Turner released a Top 6, KU wasn't on it.
Yeah seems like we aren't really pursuing anyone. He's a baller tho.
Johnny Juzang is transferring from Kentucky. Former top 50 recruit.
Barring a shocker, we have our 13.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
Johnny Juzang is transferring from Kentucky. Former top 50 recruit.
Oof. They worked hard to get him to reclassify too.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Barring a shocker, we have our 13.
This is kind of disappointing to me. There is a boat load of talent on the transfer market that could help this team next year.
The NCAA vote on immediate eligibility could be moved to June. In which case buckle up, amigos.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Barring a shocker, we have our 13.
I like it.
Not surprised with Juzang. Trouble in paradise this year finally. Money is nice but kids wanna play especially 5*.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
The NCAA vote on immediate eligibility could be moved to June. In which case buckle up, amigos.
CHAOSSSSSS.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Barring a shocker, we have our 13.
This is kind of disappointing to me. There is a boat load of talent on the transfer market that could help this team next year.
I wouldn't give up hope yet. I think you might be surprised, especially the way staff has attacked this the last couple of years, not going to take just anyone - -BUT if it is a right fit it can still very easily happen
Didn’t make Bruner’s top 6
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Barring a shocker, we have our 13.
This is kind of disappointing to me. There is a boat load of talent on the transfer market that could help this team next year.
I wouldn't give up hope yet. I think you might be surprised, especially the way staff has attacked this the last couple of years, not going to take just anyone - -BUT if it is a right fit it can still very easily happen
What KU needs isn't on the transfer market right now. They need the same thing as last off-season and that's an outside shooter. The higher ranked guards on the transfer market right now are more scorers than shooters. If there was an Isaiah Moss type transfer out there, KU might get involved at that point. There's not one of those out there right now so Self hasn't been pushing hard for any transfers at this point.
Transfer Portal has hit 550
We will have shooters next year. Braun is obviously still on the roster and Thompson is an awesome 3 point shooter. Wilson has a good three point shot as well. Ochi has been inconsistent but I think his shot will be more and more consistent with each year.
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
If you can't score at Stony Brook you might be a stiff...
Having seen him play in that league I would pass
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
None of his skills are elite though. Silvio had a better rebounding and block rate than this kid last season. Otchere is also a big black hole on offense as his PER was 12 last year. Otchere was also a worse FT shooter than Doke. The one thing Otchere is good at, KU has two guys (Silvio and Mitch) that are just as good or better considering the level of competition involved.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
None of his skills are elite though. Silvio had a better rebounding and block rate than this kid last season. Otchere is also a big black hole on offense as his PER was 12 last year. Otchere was also a worse FT shooter than Doke. The one thing Otchere is good at, KU has two guys (Silvio and Mitch) that are just as good or better considering the level of competition involved.
A career block rate of 13 is fantastic. He and Withey had the same career high. Did you ignore the caveat that I’m intrigued as a D specialist? Not asking him to be Doke.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
None of his skills are elite though. Silvio had a better rebounding and block rate than this kid last season. Otchere is also a big black hole on offense as his PER was 12 last year. Otchere was also a worse FT shooter than Doke. The one thing Otchere is good at, KU has two guys (Silvio and Mitch) that are just as good or better considering the level of competition involved.
A career block rate of 13 is fantastic. He and Withey had the same career high. Did you ignore the caveat that I’m intrigued as a D specialist? Not asking him to be Doke.
I also saw the significant drop off from his first to second season at Stony Brook in every relevant category except rebounding where he went from bad to average for his size. Silvio had a higher block rate than he did last season. 10% last season is still good, but it's against crap competition and that's literally the only thing he's good at and KU has two guys in Silvio and Mitch that are comparable in that category.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
None of his skills are elite though. Silvio had a better rebounding and block rate than this kid last season. Otchere is also a big black hole on offense as his PER was 12 last year. Otchere was also a worse FT shooter than Doke. The one thing Otchere is good at, KU has two guys (Silvio and Mitch) that are just as good or better considering the level of competition involved.
A career block rate of 13 is fantastic. He and Withey had the same career high. Did you ignore the caveat that I’m intrigued as a D specialist? Not asking him to be Doke.
I also saw the significant drop off from his first to second season at Stony Brook in every relevant category except rebounding where he went from bad to average for his size. Silvio had a higher block rate than he did last season. 10% last season is still good, but it's against crap competition and that's literally the only thing he's good at and KU has two guys in Silvio and Mitch that are comparable in that category.
To be fair, Silvio probably played similar competition during mopup time 😂. If we need a guy, I like the fit. Massive too: 6-11, 7-6 wingspan. Come in, give a few fouls, defend, sit down.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
I would as well but I’m always intrigued by guys with an elite skill to fill out your “bullpen.” If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
None of his skills are elite though. Silvio had a better rebounding and block rate than this kid last season. Otchere is also a big black hole on offense as his PER was 12 last year. Otchere was also a worse FT shooter than Doke. The one thing Otchere is good at, KU has two guys (Silvio and Mitch) that are just as good or better considering the level of competition involved.
A career block rate of 13 is fantastic. He and Withey had the same career high. Did you ignore the caveat that I’m intrigued as a D specialist? Not asking him to be Doke.
I also saw the significant drop off from his first to second season at Stony Brook in every relevant category except rebounding where he went from bad to average for his size. Silvio had a higher block rate than he did last season. 10% last season is still good, but it's against crap competition and that's literally the only thing he's good at and KU has two guys in Silvio and Mitch that are comparable in that category.
To be fair, Silvio probably played similar competition during mopup time 😂. If we need a guy, I like the fit. Massive too: 6-11, 7-6 wingspan. Come in, give a few fouls, defend, sit down.
I don't see it with him. Why would this guy who would have multiple DNP's be worth looking at for a program like KU when KU has multiple people that can do what he does as well or better.
He might be good for a mid major program, but for a P5 school with plenty of front court depth, there's nothing about him that's intriguing to me, even as a guy to eat couple of minutes if Dave, Silvio, Mitch, and Gethro all got into foul issues.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
^^^
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
^^^
If we end up with an open spot, a shooter is a much greater need than a 4th string center. I also seriously doubt he'd want to go somewhere to sit on the bench.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Intriguing option as a rim protector/rebound specialist https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeff-otchere-1.html ↗
Won AEC DPOY playing 17 MPG and played JuCo ball at Garden. Career 13% block percentage and 15% rebound percentage. For reference, last year Doke was 11 and 21 respectively.
That's a hard pass from me. He got worse in just about every category except rebounding last season and the 17% total rebounding rate he had isn't that good for a player his size in that league.
Best case scenario is he's Dave's back up, but I'd still rather have Silvio over this guy.
If we have a spot and need a garbage man, there’s not really a downside.
^^^
Portal over 600 now
Bryce Aiken is down to Iowa St, Maryland, Seton Hall & Michigan
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Bryce Aiken is down to Iowa St, Maryland, Seton Hall & Michigan
Iowa State needs some players pretty badly. He could be "the guy" there.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Bryce Aiken is down to Iowa St, Maryland, Seton Hall & Michigan
Iowa State needs some players pretty badly. He could be "the guy" there.
If he wants to win he would go elsewhere however that's the type of offense he could chuck some shots in
So the Columbia kid that committed to Duke last week or so has already de-committed from them...
@Crimsonorblue22 Who knows. Just odd that he would commit that fast and then back out of it. Maybe they are looking st someone else and backed away from him.
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Crimsonorblue22 Who knows. Just odd that he would commit that fast and then back out of it. Maybe they are looking st someone else and backed away from him.
This is my guess.
Not brohood material
Ha that was quick guess he didn't pass tha brothahood test
Intriguing grad transfer just hit the Portal.
Jeriah Horne from Tulsa 6'7 career 34.9 3pt % with 127 makes. Had 9 games this season with 3 or more made 3's
Would take if there’s a spot https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/liam-robbins-1.html ↗
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Would take if there’s a spot https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/liam-robbins-1.html ↗
Same. Looks good.
Honestly I don’t think we need a single transfer. They only way would be if Silvio transfers and you want another big guy. We are set at guard and big guys with our current roster
@jayhawks2010 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Honestly I don’t think we need a single transfer. They only way would be if Silvio transfers and you want another big guy. We are set at guard and big guys with our current roster
With the Robbins kid I am interested if he is a sit out transfer. We lose Mitch and Silvio after next season for sure and don't seem to be on any decent post players in the 21 class. I'm sure Self will find a way regardless because you can't afford to have one decent post player (Dave) on the roster.
I tend to agree that we don't need anyone else for next season.
eww
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Would take if there’s a spot https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/liam-robbins-1.html ↗
Minnie-sota bound ey
Brothahood re-accepted Patrick Tape
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Brothahood re-accepted Patrick Tape
This is so weird.
Weird times indeed. Doesn't happen often
Carlick Jones picked Louisville. That's a big pickup for them
It doesn't look as if free agency transferring will be happening this year. Looks Like 21-22 season. That's good for KU potentially as I think that would have made a few guys think..
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
like the twist of words lol
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
Was popping on to post this. If Silvio were to go, this would be my first call.
The Ohio St selling some good ocean front property this transfer season. Picked up Bucknell's leading scorer today, a day after losing Luther Mohammed to the portal. Not a grad transfer though
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
Rumor is he was not happy about losing minutes and his starting spot to Trevion Williams.
Figured Williams is a giant sized human too
David Sloan in the portal. Not sad
David De julius also in the portal from Michigan.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
David Sloan in the portal. Not sad
David De julius also in the portal from Michigan.
Bruce is big dumb.
State is gonna be so, so bad again. Might end up starting all freshmen.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
Was popping on to post this. If Silvio were to go, this would be my first call.
I’d take him over Silvio...
@Kcmatt7 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Giant Sized Center Matt Haarms in the portal from Purdon't. Grad Transfer
Was popping on to post this. If Silvio were to go, this would be my first call.
I’d take him over Silvio...
Gonzaga picked up Southern Illinois leading scorer Aaron Cook. PG only played in 6 games last season.
San Diego St picked up high scoring tiny sized guard Terrell Gomez. That might be insurance for Flynn leaving.
Alex O'Connell ended up at Creighton.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Alex O'Connell ended up at Creighton.
Creighton going to be pretty salty this upcoming season. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
Alex O'Connell ended up at Creighton.
Creighton going to be pretty salty this upcoming season. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Unless he gets a waiver he will have to sit. I'm sure he will try and get one and say K hurt his feelings for not playing him much
Lots of movement today
Jeriah Horne picked Colorado
Johnny Juzang left Kentucky for UCLA. Must sit
Bryce Aiken picked Seton Hall
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Lots of movement today
Jeriah Horne picked Colorado
Johnny Juzang left Kentucky for UCLA. Must sit
Bryce Aiken picked Seton Hall
Dam Juzang is a LITTLE bit of a surprise for me, he was getting more minutes late, and probably would of seen more this year I would think. - Is he from the West Coast? - -maybe closer to Family ?
Yes he was from out west. You know how it is, Kentucky recruited over him
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yes he was from out west. You know how it is, Kentucky recruited over him
Thanks I thought he was , but didn't remember for sure Thanks .
High 4-Star Freshman Alonzo Gaffney PF is transferring from Ohio St. That makes both Top 30 kids leaving Ohio St after one year. Weird. Barely played for them
Portal past 700 now. Crazy
@BeddieKU23 Turning into a free agency at this point. Which is what I predicted....
Hang onto your butts 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Davion Mintz from Creighton to Kentucky. Sat out last season
I still think immediate transfer will shake something from the current roster. If your Wilson how are you cracking the top 10 in the rotation? Just thoughts
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I still think immediate transfer will shake something from the current roster. If your Wilson how are you cracking the top 10 in the rotation? Just thoughts
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I still think immediate transfer will shake something from the current roster. If your Wilson how are you cracking the top 10 in the rotation? Just thoughts
Realistically, Wilson probably isn't in the rotation next season as he's probably 4th in that mix, maybe 5th depending on how Self uses Enaruna next season.
2012-22 is when Jalen and Tristan start emerging into more featured roles after Silvio and Mitch are gone. Dave should still be around then so you could conceivably see a senior Dave and a sophomore Jalen as the starting front court in 2012-22 for KU and Jalen sliding over to the 5 with Tristan at the 4 in a small ball line up.
I'm not forgetting about Gethro, I just don't think he'll be ready for a bigger role until after Dave is gone. I think it's pretty likely he redshirts this season (assuming it happens) because he should be buried pretty deep on the depth chart and he needs to add size to his frame anyway. He's got that Jeff Withey body type of naturally being skinny and it took Jeff about 3 years to get to where he wasn't getting bullied on the floor every night. Gethro has a similar body type where it'll be hard to put on a lot of mass and a redshirt year where he focuses on his body mostly would be a huge benefit for him long term.
The question for Jalen there would be is he patient enough to wait his turn. If he transfers, he's not playing wherever he ends up next season versus sitting behind Dave, Mitch, and Silvio next year as the potential 4th big and still getting a few minutes just about every night. The biggest thing Jalen needs to develop in his game a solid 3 point shot. He needs to get north of 35% to be able to play the 4 spot at KU because he's already going to be a defensive liability for KU at that spot since his athleticism is in the same neighborhood as Perry Ellis and Dedric Lawson.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I get your point. Different times today. I absolutely want Wilson here as I was a big fan of his in HS. Its just difficult to see where he plays a lot and subsequently doesnt get discouraged from it
Jalen Wilson committed to Kansas knowing full well KU still had Some, Silvio, McCormack, and Lightfoot coming back last season with a strong chance David and Silvio would still be around with a solid chance of Mitch being around next season. I'm also sure the coaching staff was very upfront with Wilson during his recruitment that there was a good possibility he wouldn't see many meaningful minutes his first couple of seasons in Lawrence.
Jalen Wilson was a borderline top 50 recruit in a really weak class. He committed to KU knowing full well there was a possibility he wasn't going to play a whole lot his first two years.
The only player currently committed to KU that I can see not playing in Lawrence next season is Latrell Jossell and that's only if Self recruits over him before the summer.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
The only player currently committed to KU that I can see not playing in Lawrence next season is Latrell Jossell and that's only if Self recruits over him before the summer.
I wouldn't hate it but it doesn't appear that Self is going in that direction. He had a lot of chances to go after transfers and has stayed the course. I don't exactly mind it either. I am not super confident Gethro or Jossell are KU level guys but that will work itself out in time.
RE Wilson his family right now is saying all the right things. If he did officially take a RS that's a good sign too imo. I think he will be good in his 4th and 5th years in college especially if those do in fact happen.
Big movement on the trail today
Grad transfer Charles Minlend from San Francisco ends up at Louisville. Watched him play against Gonzaga in the WCC tourney and he is a baller.
Jamarious Burton transferred from Wichita to Texas Tech.
UNLV transfer Amari Hardy ends up at Oregon. Kid was instrumental when they beat San Diego St.
Oklahoma picked up North Texas Texas transfer Umoja Gibson
OU lost Jamal Bieniemy. Had a really subpar soph season
Justin Turner went back to BGSU. Awk.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Justin Turner went back to BGSU. Awk.
Better then methzou
@BeddieKU23 Oregon taking Hardy is a long con.
Our old friend Chaundee Brown is transferring
Chaundee really underachieved under Danny
For sure. I wouldn’t hate taking a flier if we had a spot. A RS year then a 5th year Chaundee might be a nice player.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
For sure. I wouldn’t hate taking a flier if we had a spot. A RS year then a 5th year Chaundee might be a nice player.
Thing is , we don't have a spot.
Bill would be on him like flies on turds if we had a scholly 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Bill would be on him like flies on turds if we had a scholly 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Oh man, he checks Bill's boxes. He is smalllllll.
VCU big man and leading scorer Marcus Santos Silva is transferring. Should be a hot commodity. The 6'7 bruiser averaged 12.8 ppg and 8 boards a game. Good player hitting the market
Oh Bruce lost another to the portal. Levi Stockard is leaving. Bruce down to 4 guys who even played last season.
@BeddieKU23 did you read his q and A? So weird
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 did you read his q and A? So weird
I can't put myself to lose brain cells over it
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Oh Bruce lost another to the portal. Levi Stockard is leaving. Bruce down to 4 guys who even played last season.
OH -- But - - - but - -but - -you forget they have such an outstanding recruiting class coming in. They gonna destroy the Big 12 next year, ask any K-State fan and they will tell you so lmao - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 such a weirdo
@jayballer73 I know plenty of KSU fans that are simply hoping not to finish dead last again.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@jayballer73 I know plenty of KSU fans that are simply hoping not to finish dead last again.
they better hope really hard. They were saying today that Mike McGurl is the ONLY one left off the team that won the Big 12 two years ago?
Weber is an okay enough coach. He's not great, but not awful.
His problem is that he struggles in recruiting and retention. That has burned him time and again. He saved himself last time with Dean Wade and Barry Brown, but unless he does something similar this time, it will be tough to get out of the basement with the upgrades around the Big 12.
@justanotherfan said in 2020 Transfer List:
Weber is an okay enough coach. He's not great, but not awful.
His problem is that he struggles in recruiting and retention. That has burned him time and again. He saved himself last time with Dean Wade and Barry Brown, but unless he does something similar this time, it will be tough to get out of the basement with the upgrades around the Big 12.
His player evaluation is okay but it's hard to replicate Dean Wade (underrated rural KS player that grew up a huge grape) and Barry Brown (sub 200 recruit that ended up playing at an all league level).
We like to bring up Graham and Mason but both were much more of known commodities than Brown. Anyone paying attention knew Graham was a baller and we had to beat out NC State and Virginia for him. Barry Brown didn't have another P5 offer.
It's a shame we were robbed of Wade's final season. He was really good.
Tyler Harris of Memphis transfers to Iowa St. Believe they were runner ups for him first time around.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html ↗
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html ↗
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he's impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6'3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus..Would trade for Jossell anyday
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html ↗
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he's impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6'3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus..Would trade for Jossell anyday
Could not do it fast enough tbh but Self won't.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html ↗
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he's impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6'3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus..Would trade for Jossell anyday
Could not do it fast enough tbh but Self won't.
sam on the athletic thinks he's a draft prospect.
WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
Boom
Damn, Texas Tech landed VCU leading scorer Marcus Santos-Silva. That's a game changer for them..
Gonna laugh when Texas finishes in the middle of the league again.
@BeddieKU23 I saw that. Beard is smart, knows that he can coach, going the transfer route until - and it is only a matter of time - he can consistently recruit with the big boys. As long as Beard is around Tech is going to be our most heated Big12 rival.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
I don't think Self is going to completely rule out Braun being the successor to Garrett at PG. Braun ran some point last season and will probably be Garrett's primary back up this season.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Damn, Texas Tech landed VCU leading scorer Marcus Santos-Silva. That's a game changer for them..
Texas Tech is becoming a real pain in the you know where. Bead getting some really solid players.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I don't think Self is going to completely rule out Braun being the successor to Garrett at PG. Braun ran some point last season and will probably be Garrett's primary back up this season.
Braun has a long way to go to run the point. He looked scared to handle under pressure at times.
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he's missed the deadline for entering the Draft..
In Sarr's words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. "I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn't get the chance to put my name in and change my mind."
"It's actually a tough decision," Sarr said. "I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I'm entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me."
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he's missed the deadline for entering the Draft..
In Sarr's words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. "I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn't get the chance to put my name in and change my mind."
"It's actually a tough decision," Sarr said. "I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I'm entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me."
Boy that's kind of messed up for the kid. - - just a typical case for the kid. Kind of falls in line with when a kid is being recruited to come to a school as a Freshman he commits cause he wants to play for that Coach and then - - he get's fired after the kid has committed or the Coach leaves and the kid is like - - -Wait ? - - -What?
@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he's missed the deadline for entering the Draft..
In Sarr's words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. "I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn't get the chance to put my name in and change my mind."
"It's actually a tough decision," Sarr said. "I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I'm entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me."
Boy that's kind of messed up for the kid. - - just a typical case for the kid. Kind of falls in line with when a kid is being recruited to come to a school as a Freshman he commits cause he wants to play for that Coach and then - - he get's fired after the kid has committed or the Coach leaves and the kid is like - - -Wait ? - - -What?
I'm with you, which is why I like the new and softened transfer rules. Coaches can bolt without notice (though still on contract), and the players are like, "..what?" If a player is unhappy at a school, I say bon voyage.
Case in point, Grimes. I didn't like him at KU, and was glad that he left. For a multitude of reasons he did not fit in. It worked out well for everyone concerned that he chose to transfer.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html ↗
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
DePaul
Terrible spot to move up
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Terrible spot to move up
For sure. I believe there’s a family issue which led him to stay close to home.
Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I'm of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven't been relevant for a very long while.
Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I'm of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven't been relevant for a very long while.
Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I'm of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven't been relevant for a very long while.
Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I'm of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just successfully recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven't been relevant for a very long while.
Who is the top recruit in Chicago in this class?
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he's missed the deadline for entering the Draft..
In Sarr's words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. "I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn't get the chance to put my name in and change my mind."
"It's actually a tough decision," Sarr said. "I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I'm entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me."
Not a big fan of how Danny handled that situation. With the rules set up the way they are currently, there's no harm in letting a kid declare and go through the process and get some feedback from scouts what he needed to work on to be successful at the next level because the kid can still withdraw and come back to school after getting the feedback. L
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn't even look at him. He's not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn't make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn't need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn't even look at him. He's not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn't make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn't need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That’s why I said if there was a spot, saying boot someone to make room.
@FarmerJayhawk I was thinking the same thing. Is he a soph, senior, what (I'm being lazy)?
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn't even look at him. He's not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn't make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn't need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he's a bust - mark it. Jossell's 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let's not act like we're holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio's head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn't even look at him. He's not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn't make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn't need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he's a bust - mark it. Jossell's 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let's not act like we're holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio's head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he's eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That's the key with why KU won't look at him. He wouldn't be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He's also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he's also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don't understand what you mean by Silvio's head isn't in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn't slowed down for him yet because he's still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That's not his head not being in the game, that's lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don't remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio's head wasn't in the game, Self would've booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that's a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he's athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he's athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
He was awesome in some games last yr. Agree would take in a heartbeat
Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
Hard to believe this would happen considering how many decommits he had. Lol.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn't even look at him. He's not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn't make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn't need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he's a bust - mark it. Jossell's 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let's not act like we're holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio's head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he's eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That's the key with why KU won't look at him. He wouldn't be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He's also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he's also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don't understand what you mean by Silvio's head isn't in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn't slowed down for him yet because he's still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That's not his head not being in the game, that's lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don't remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio's head wasn't in the game, Self would've booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that's a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he's athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he's athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
I hope you're right, @FarmerJayhawk!
Sarr to Kentucky
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
Sarr to Kentucky
Iff he gets a waiver. If he has to sit he’s heading overseas.
@Marco Dallas Comegys was at DePaul with Ray Meyer but he wasn’t part of the final four team with Mark Aguirre Terry Cummings and others. They narrowly lost to Bird in that semifinal. I love going to Hs games here in Chicago. Brad Underwood is learning to recruit Chicago but needs to put a wall around the state. Not sure who next years top guys are but Simeon will be loaded. As usual.
@Marco It's hard to believe but I just saw an article that Adam Miller is the University of Illinois' highest ranked recruit since 2003. And he's not terribly high, around 30 in most rankings. Of course, Bill Self was recruiting for U of I in 2003, at least partially. Adam Miller was the son of a co-worker and when I figured out who she was, he was a heavy KU lean according to her. Obviously it didn't work out. Miller is also the highest rated incoming BIG player which at around 30 is a little hard to believe also.
When Illinois was playing for the NC all the way back to the late 70's when DePaul was they were using Chicago kids. Hurt feelings among spurned coaches in hiring by U of I led to a unofficial boycott of the U of I by Chicago kids. Something similar happened with Ray Meyers son at Depaul who really suffered from a poor relationship with a King HS coach named Sonny Cox (who just died this week). Cox was so influential among Chicago players that basically Depaul could no longer successfully recruit Chicago kids.
Yes I think you're right. So much talent coming out of the city. Derrick Rose, Anthony Davis, Jalen Brunson, Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okhafor all playing major roles on NC title game participants recently. I could have added Devon Dotson's name to the list had we the chance to compete for the championship, although he wasn't a HS player in Chicago, he spent his first decade+ there.
KU has Julian Wright, Sherron Collins and Cliff Alexander among many others from Chicago in the recent decade or so.
Leading scorer from East Tennessee St Bo Hodges is transferring. Would take, he was pretty darn good against KU last yr
Transfer Portal approaching 900 as we hit Mid May.
If there were a guy Bill would snatch up immediately and we’d all go wut it would be Eastern. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nojel-eastern-1.html ↗
@FarmerJayhawk woof. Thankfully not happening.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk woof. Thankfully not happening.
Yep, we’re set. Had a long chat with a KU guy the other day and nobody expects any departures.
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That's a sharp decline.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That's a sharp decline.
Carsen Edwards made up for a lot of flaws. The rest of the squad was just JAGs.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That's a sharp decline.
Eastern was never that good even when healthy. I'd rather have Haarms than Eastern and opinion of Haarms wasn't that high to begin with.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That's a sharp decline.
Eastern was never that good even when healthy. I'd rather have Haarms than Eastern and opinion of Haarms wasn't that high to begin with.
For sure. He’s a homeless man’s Marcus Garrett. And KU was his dream school once upon a time.
Painter said Eastern was simply beaten out in practice by Williams. But people are wondering aloud what is up at Purdue. I've always liked Matt Painter. Decent coach, decent recruits, seems like a straight up type of guy. But Purdue is fundamentally flawed as a program. 0 final fours since them and Iowa choked in the 1980 final four. You look at the list of final four teams since 1980 and then realize Purdue, Missouri and KState is not on that list. It's one thing if you don't consider yourself a basketball school to avoid the FF, but those schools like to think they're decent basketball schools.
Man that Purdue/Virginia game in the tourney two years ago was one of the best games I've seen in a while. Carson Edwards was unreal that game. I also enjoyed KU's trouncing of Purdue a few years back in the S16 I believe it was? I believe it was also Purdue that we beat in 2012. Can't say I have issue with Purdon't and Painter seems like a perfect fit there
Wow that game was epic and Purdue has no one to blame but themselves! The winning play was also a losing play by Purdue because three of their guys chased the loose ball down court instead of staying home to defend their basket. Had they not lost their heads there’s no way UVA completes that miracle play and Bennett still hasn’t been to a FF and Purdue could be the rare team that reigns as national champ for more than one season!
Chaundee to Meeeechigan. Good pickup for them after they lost Todd.
Mac McClung released a Top 7. KU wasn't on it which isn't the point I'm making here. It's funny that transfers have "top 7" lists now. I saw recently a football recruit release a "top 20". funny stuff.
The immediate transfer rule has been tabled until next season per NCAA. Still I'd imagine just about anyone who transferred to apply for immediate waiver anyway based on Covid etc.
Self will be happy for at least another year as he was opposed to the rule change. I think most coaches will be against it
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
The immediate transfer rule has been tabled until next season per NCAA. Still I'd imagine just about anyone who transferred to apply for immediate waiver anyway based on Covid etc.
Self will be happy for at least another year as he was opposed to the rule change. I think most coaches will be against it
what is tabeled mean ?
There will be no immediate transfer rules in place until next year at earliest
Davide Moretti leaving Texas Tech for Euro. Been a long time rumor he would go that route
Huge blow for St Johns leading scorer & 2nd team All Big-easts LJ Figueroa on the move again. Read an article that made it sound as if some schools were tampering in his ear about an immediate transfer somewhere else.. Oh boy
@BeddieKU23 who is on mcClungs list?
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
There will be no immediate transfer rules in place until next year at earliest
Oh , Oh , Oh . - -Ok gotcha. well that doesn't really surprise me THAT much. Thanks for clearing that up for me though. - -kinda slow sometimes lol
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
@BeddieKU23 thx!
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
Tech is actually full on scholarships right now. Of course numbers always work out but he would have to sit a year so it doesn't help losing Moretti. They have 5 star Burnett replacing him anyway
Iowa St added Jalen Coleman-Lands, Grad Transfer from Depaul/formerly of Illinois. Has been around longer then Perry Ellis. Avg 11 ppg on 36% FG & 32% from 3 last season
@BeddieKU23 so weird to me that isu gets the most hyphenated last names.🤣
I'll take a Grant-Foster over a Coleman-Lands!
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
And he just committed to Tech
Tech got a commit from Georgetown transfer Mac McClung.
Doesn't help them this yr.
@BeddieKU23 unless he gets a waiver
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 unless he gets a waiver
He's not, he's a sit out transfer.
A lot of Tech fans seem to think McClung will be eligible to play next season. I'm not sure how he would get a waiver.
But, regardless, it will be interesting to see what Beard can do with him at Tech. He needs to improve as a defender/passer and improve his shooting efficiency (only 39.4% from the floor last season).
@KirkIsMyHinrich A lot of fans may not be aware the transfer waiver rule got shelved until next year.
Actually the NCAA chose not to vote on the one time transfer rule until at least January 2021, so McClung will have to appeal to the NCAA for a waiver.
https://universitybusiness.com/the-ncaa-opted-not-to-vote-on-one-time-transfer-waiver-legislation/ ↗
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@KirkIsMyHinrich A lot of fans may not be aware the transfer waiver rule got shelved until next year.
Still the NCAA is handing them out like candy.
He will probably claim he didn't have a spot back at Georgetown and see what happens
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
Tech is actually full on scholarships right now. Of course numbers always work out but he would have to sit a year so it doesn't help losing Moretti. They have 5 star Burnett replacing him anyway
Which is probably why he left.
Jeez, I wish we had a spot for Mann or Nembhard. Liked both of them a lot out of HS. https://247sports.com/college/florida/Article/Andrew-Nembhard-transfers-from-Florida-Gators-Basketball-after-withdrawing-from-NBA-Draft-147669710/ ↗
@FarmerJayhawk mercy
Elijah Elliot in the transfer portal..
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Elijah Elliot in the transfer portal..
Lol
Edit: Where are you seeing this?
@BeddieKU23 Direct link? Checked their twitter and website. No one seems to be running with this yet. Might just be because he is a walk-on and not expected to play anyway.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
Jeez, I wish we had a spot for Mann or Nembhard. Liked both of them a lot out of HS. https://247sports.com/college/florida/Article/Andrew-Nembhard-transfers-from-Florida-Gators-Basketball-after-withdrawing-from-NBA-Draft-147669710/ ↗
Nembhard is a good player, but I think he'd be a bad fit at KU. He needs to be in very slow tempo system like Virginia's.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Elijah Elliot in the transfer portal..
I'm guessing he finally wants to be on scholarship somewhere. Didn't he have some low end P5 offers out of HS and chose to walk on at KU instead?
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 Direct link? Checked their twitter and website. No one seems to be running with this yet. Might just be because he is a walk-on and not expected to play anyway.
Certainly could be the reason
Big loss for Oklahoma St as Yor Anei transfers.. They also picked up an Ole Miss transfer guard in Bryce Williams.
LJ Figueroa ends up at Oregon.. Big time get for them
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
LJ Figueroa ends up at Oregon.. Big time get for them
Guessing it was highly contested for his services.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
LJ Figueroa ends up at Oregon.. Big time get for them
Guessing it was highly contested for his services.
You know they didn't come free
Cade Cunningham sticking with Oklahoma St. Those strong a** offers from Nike always make a difference
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Cade Cunningham sticking with Oklahoma St. Those strong a** offers from Nike always make a difference
Cunninham still staying at Okie State even after the penalities ? - -I sure would of thought he would of bolted for some type of pro form /team after this hit. - -So he is STILL going to stay there ?
@jayballer73 More money to stay.
Yep, protect the draft stock getting up 20 shots a game for Okie Lite
Maybe his brother got a nice raise too?
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yep, protect the draft stock getting up 20 shots a game for Okie Lite
ya probably true -- OR maybe he just loves Oklahoma State that much to let it over shadow logic ROFLMAO
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Maybe his brother got a nice raise too?
wonder how long his brother remains on the staff AFTER he is gone lol
Andrew Nembhard goes from Florida to Gonzaga..
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Andrew Nembhard goes from Florida to Gonzaga..
Nothing to see here.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Andrew Nembhard goes from Florida to Gonzaga..
Nothing to see here.
swoosh
@BeddieKU23 mentioned this awhile ago but walk-on Elijah Elliott is transferring.
He finally announced it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CB61Mxlp7sq/ ↗
Alex Tchikou is reclassifying to 20. From what I'm told it's not a surprise and $ has always been a factor with him. KU wasn't on his list
5 star prospect CJ Walker leaving Oregon..
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
5 star prospect CJ Walker leaving Oregon..
First year wasn't great but clearly some talent there.
CJ Walker ends up at UCF. Surprised bigger Florida schools didn't scoop him up.
Transfer portal hit 1000
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPilgrimKSR/status/1285648490459213828 ↗
KU doesn't want to have to take this dude, but would be a good add if they do.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPilgrimKSR/status/1285648490459213828 ↗
KU doesn't want to have to take this dude, but would be a good add if they do.
Interesting word choice. Can you elaborate? Poor attitude?
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPilgrimKSR/status/1285648490459213828 ↗
KU doesn't want to have to take this dude, but would be a good add if they do.
Interesting word choice. Can you elaborate? Poor attitude?
It would take someone leaving to make room, and they’re happy with who they have. Like I wouldn’t trade Enaruna for him.
Eww I want to keep tristian! Can he get here?
I have doubt he will get back here this season
Kunkel picked Xavier
More a 2021 guy, but absolutely would take. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/paul-atkinson-1.html ↗
@FarmerJayhawk Gonna be a long ass line.
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Gonna be a long ass line.
Long line for sure , Article where it says he has already heard from : Duke - - Gonzaga- - -Texas - -Norte Dame - - Miami - - Florida - -USC - - Maryland - - Ohio State - - -Oklahoma State - -Wake Forrest - -Cincinnati - - Georgia -- & KU.
Said he will graduate in Spring and be eligible for the 2021/22 Season. - -Think it's a long shot he would ever come here. - Would be nice
They said with the IVY League's Season in jeopardy because of the COVID good chance therecould be more transfers - -we will see I reckon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KU has reached out to Atkinson