Let's go
Top 10 teams Ohio St, Memphis, Villanova, Louisville have all gone down. Let's avoid losing today!
First to 40 wins
need to shoot about 40% from three today
Huggins has a big chalk handprint on the back of his shoulder.
Doke!
@FarmerJayhawk I thought he stepped on the line, but I'll take it!
Quick whistle on the 3 second call
welp
We need the time out cause we are poop
Fieldhouse is lifeless and the team is lifeless so far
1/4, 4 turnovers, getting exposed defensively by Huggins. Great start.
How long until we go to a 4-1 today?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
How long until we go to a 4-1 today?
probably after this timeout
DanR said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
How long until we go to a 4-1 today?
probably after this timeout
Yep
Crowd seems dead in part because of the audio balance of this lousy production
Good news they called a foul bad news Doke at the line.
lol
Why tf are they talking about Seth Greenberg? Oh yeah, because thatās what ESPN does. Say something stupid then spend all day talking about it.
DOKE WYD
FarmerJayhawk said:
DOKE WYD
So much amazing happened there.
these announcers are crap
Game is over, gonna eat.
Yikes. Time to wake up!
Braun in. Moss out.
Kinda glad I can't actually watch this game. 5 points in 7 minutes at home. 1-7 from floor. 4 TOs. WTF...
Exposed much
DCHawker said:
Kinda glad I can't actually watch this game. 5 points in 7 minutes at home. 1-7 from floor. 4 TOs. WTF...
It's worse then the box score says
Back-door all the time today. That's how you punish defenses that over-play.
Pretty sure we still have time to come back in this one
I wish Ochai wouldnāt be so passive after only missing one shot.
I'm not sure our defense needs to collapse so much on drives that we give up a wide-open 3.
They hardly shoot 3's. Cept for today!
Their defensive strategy of letting Garret shoot 3s and putting Doke on the line is a good one.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
They hardly shoot 3's. Cept for today!
When you get wide open looks cant turn em down
Hawk8086 said:
Their defensive strategy of letting Garret shoot 3s and putting Doke on the line is a good one.
Neither can shoot so it's a win win
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I'm not sure our defense needs to collapse so much on drives that we give up a wide-open 3.
that strategy almost worked against Villanova!
Guess we forgot we had a game this afternoon
take that shot, Braun
Dotson needs to sit for perspective, but the roster is devoid of ball handlers.
Iād like for one player to show that they want to play in this game
My god. Make a FT
2-9
Food was good, I see we still suck.
Hey we made a free-throw!
1-3
Garret should do that all day. Dotson and Ochai too. Playing too passively
Marcus. Hooper.
Don't have to shoot as many free-throws if you make your lay-ups. Smart, Marcus.
Gotta make free throws and finish strong to beat WVU.
Moss sucks at blocking out
Moss has to make that
Braun is feisty af.
Maybe they'll all foul out
Heyyy Doke
what's Braun's wingspan? his hands reach his knees
Whoa!
@Crimsonorblue22 Still not sure we would make anything???
Doke shooting better freebies than Dot
Udoka - Steve Nash - Azubuike
Three point shooting is just PAINFUL
Have to pass that Doke
FarmerJayhawk said:
Have to pass that Doke
That one hurt.
As if Doke wasn't fouled there.
Get back down the court and block that, Doke
BShark said:
As if Doke wasn't fouled there.
Then we get the soft whistle on Oscar
Awesome shot Ochai. Way to kill the run.
Moss get in front of him
Offensive rebounds are killing us!!!!
If we can keep it single digits @ half, we will win.
Honestly didn't really see a foul on Moss there.
Yikes
Holy terrible entry pass Batman
@FarmerJayhawk Tristan might not be playable today.
If Doke wonāt block Oscar I'd like to see Dave try
L O L
Golf clap
Should we play a zone?
Hey Bill please try Dave
He was shoved
āFellā
Our D isn't that bad. Offense is more the problem IMO
Oh shit!
Offensive foul
Dorks
Ok, letās try SDS
Woodrow said:
Ok, letās try SDS
Lol
NFL time. I'll check back later.
Ochai doesn't look very engaged today.
Big Dave looks like he ate 3 turkey dinners
DanR said:
Our D isn't that bad. Offense is more the problem IMO
I take that back.
This is where not having two actual PGs really hurts. Denying Dot the ball and forcing others to get us into the offense. Killing us.
Fundamentals! Balls worth a million bucks, hang on to it! Block out!
Dave sucks
Huggy just knows how to scheme against us and we don't adjust...
Tsheibwe is what I expected SDS to be this season.
Hopefully Doke is a little bit embarrassed by getting shown up by Tsheibwe. Crank it up, Doke.
Oscar to the bench. Time to make a run
I wonder if the guy doing the play-by-play knew he was going to be doing the play-by-play when he woke up this morning.
He gets a buck every time he says sheebay
Get a forking rebound
Embarrassing effort there
Pretty sure I could've jumped thru the tv and grabbed that
To be fair, I don't think anyone expected that automatic left-handed hook to miss that badly.
grab the dang ball. Good grief.
That looked off Doke.
Oscar is flat out dominating
6 is not a lot! Must not have seen us play
This is the worst decade of KU basketball ever.
eh Iāll take it the way we played.
Ćscar reminds me of Konate minus the crazy.
Give the dudes some bibs
I feel like we should be down 15 so Iāll take it.
@FarmerJayhawk Exactly. Down 6 and playing this bad? Things have to improve in the 2nd half (I hope)
2-11 from 3. Under 50% on FTs. Give up 12 ORBs. 10 TOs. Not gonna win many games. Lucky we're just down 6...
I'd like to see more Braun in the 2nd half if Moss and Ochai continue to not do anything.
Braun does stand out as a kid that gets it.
I would not want to be Doke in that locker room!
We've only had 3 players score.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I'd like to see more Braun in the 2nd half if Moss and Ochai continue to not do anything.
Ochai struggling means the team struggles since he always plays.
Doing a nice halftime feature on San Antonio's new head coach.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Yes....Moss missed two wide open 3s. He has to hit those (or at least one)
Espn+ is just crappy I'm afraid to switch it
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Espn+ is just crappy I'm afraid to switch it
Clear as a bell on my end
It's clear, just a lot of dead space, till now
I don't know when they took all the dreary KU campus shots, but it's been sunny all day today with the bluest skies imaginable, so ESPN even managed to screw that up
I predict we win by ten
what changes at half?
@Crimsonorblue22 Do we stop switching?
@Crimsonorblue22 make some threes
Crimsonorblue22 said:
what changes at half?
DO NOT SWITCH OFF OSCAR
Rebound the ball
Crimsonorblue22 said:
what changes at half?
Stop playing crap
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
what changes at half?
DO NOT SWITCH OFF OSCAR
Preach.
Grab the damn ball
Interesting choice starting Braun
Doke went over-the-back there.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Interesting choice starting Braun
I like it!
AND 1
Yes
4 point play Doke.
Missed it on purpose
Braun kicks ass.
First timer here.. how ya'll doing?
That was nice pick & roll by Dok!
Let's go Jayhawk!!!
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Braun kicks ass.
He just gets it and makes plays.
msanchez said:
First timer here.. how ya'll doing?
That was nice pick & roll by Dok!
Let's go Jayhawk!!!
Well hey! Welcome to our little cabal.
How sad. I now cheer for made KU FTs. Pathetic
More of that OCHAI
OH WE BACK
@stoptheflop You will happy less than half the time...
Nice deflection by Ochai!
And 3!!!
It's about time!!!
msanchez said:
Nice deflection by Ochai!
And 3!!!
Thx for coming by so far!
FarmerJayhawk said:
OH WE BACK
Ochai playing better, team playing better. Have to hope for that going forward because he will continue to get big minutes.
Braun has been a big spark! Good move by Self.
Tie game, nobody with >1 foul, time to start over. Reboot! Lets go!
BShark said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Braun kicks ass.
He just gets it and makes plays.
I am happy to have been wrong about his ability to contribute immediately.
I joined the game late, but was surprise we only had 10 TOs. But 4 assists, expected, against Huggies' thuggies..
@KirkIsMyHinrich LOL
I Lost two homes. First in the Far. Then the Tornadee.
how can that be a foul?
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Braun kicks ass.
He just gets it and makes plays.
I am happy to have been wrong about his ability to contribute immediately.
To be fair he looked lost early.
Wooow
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wooow
SOFT CALL
OSCAR SO DOMINANT INITIATING ALL THE CONTACT AND GETTING THE CALL ANYWAY
Awful call but have to rebound
And he hacks Doke. No call.
Maaan.. those guys can rebound well...
Braun pulling a Frank there
Gotta finish that, Dot.
Come on Dotson
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Gotta finish that, Dot.
YIKES
D came to play this half
He doesn't have to always take them on!
7-16 from the free-throw line in this kind of game or any game really is a problem.
Why can't you make your layups, sit
BeddieKU23 said:
Why can't you make your layups, sit
You can't sit Dot but yeah.
@BeddieKU23 LOL!! Dot is an exception! Can't run offense without him.
We had one good minute of basketball so far
Not sure about that 3 second call.
Was he even in the paint? I thought he was standing outside.
MARC G
Canāt get over the hump. Terrible possession there
We made a layup!!
That was a nice floater, just didn't get in! But Garrett showed good sign. We can play D, too!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
Come on ref
Bailed out
Ummm
What a stupid foul!!
Stupid call, that's ALL BALL.. Sheeesh..
Bleeding from that āall ballā ābad call!ā
Drip drip
That wasn't a foul! I demand a trial by free-throw line.
WOW!!! LOB!!!
DOKE OMG
AND F1
Shebob
Good job Marcus!
Doke made FT!!!
This is fun
Marcus wyd
Sigh
WTF??? Can the ref just let Garrett steal those balls... F..
Oh boy
Oh jeez 3
CHRISTIAN BRAUN THE GOD
Braun can ball... I like this kid!
Letās go Braun!
My guy UPS doing what he do.
She way go away
Doke actualloy 50% at the FT line. Everyone else 3-7...Make than 4-8...
Turn that frown upside Braun
Flopper..
HOLY SHIT BRAUN
I have no problem with that foul, Braun. Crash the boards
@approxinfinity u r a dork!š¤£
Braun so strong he just rekt a dude thatās like 260
@Crimsonorblue22 it's called "dad jokes" I can't help it
FarmerJayhawk said:
Braun so strong he just rekt a dude thatās like 260
Must be the hulk.
Nice job by Braun. Forced that up with touch.
Then nice tackle.
Honestly wasn't sure if Braun was tough enough for this kind of game but dude's a gamer.
Can we please recruit some shooters. Holy s*hit
We have missed 3 wide open corner 3ās
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Honestly wasn't sure if Braun was tough enough for this kind of game but dude's a gamer.
Toughed up in prison by Mitch.
@Crimsonorblue22 Who are you referring to?
I believe we are up to 2 minutes of good basketball
We got a poster over on the inner city?š
Braun hasn't come out of this game in awhile. Wild.
Was that a trap?!
Garret reaches in again. Lucky no call
Braun knocked that off a WVU player.
Garrett got fouled first.. no call.. WTH?
Braun holy crap
I think Garrett got all air on that block
That's a nice block!!
Ochai doesn't not look confident in his shot at all.
So, KU hit 40. The game is over right?
BShark said:
So, KU hit 40. The game is over right?
Duh
Need to get a quick 4th on Oscar
BShark said:
So, KU hit 40. The game is over right?
I think we can hold em
C'mon.. slowly but sure, let's harass WV, and win this one by double digits..!!
Hit our throws?š
@Crimsonorblue22 Granted!!
Thx!
Enjoying Marcus throwing lobs with that length
Oscar is flopper
WTF? that's a travelling call!
Walk
xactly..
Lol
Ka..... BOOOM
OKAY
WOOOOOT WOOOT!!!!
Yoooooo
Up 7
Braun another deflection.
Oh my Doke
This braun kid is ok
Been waiting for that in my whole life!!!
Oh my Braun
Can we get that poster pls
Ref. You suck.
That's #4 on Marcus.
F...!! Ref doesn't like Garrett's hair..
4th on McG
4 on Marcus. Not good.
Oh boy Silvio. Your time bud
Oscar throwing elbows.
Have held WVU to 8 points in 11 minutes. Make that 10.
Not a good shot
Let's see if we can close this game out. We have the upperhand.
Two bigs on the floor. Let's see how this goes.
Self isnāt going to be able to sit MG very long
Trash refs
Culver got the elbows a little high there
Stupid ref..
Caught a break there
Lucky.. Silvio likes to do that..
Makeup call
He pushed Mac anyway.
A scorer
BRAUN
Woohooo.. Braun!!
Braun isn't going to give up his hold on his extra minutes
Elbow!!
There it is, ref. Took you three trips to see it.
Ya!!
Ride or Die guys update: Christian Braun added
DanR said:
There it is, ref. Took you three trips to see it.
That's being generous.
@KirkIsMyHinrich three trips in a row
Braun never sees panicking, or in hurry.. that's what amazing.. yet he got all those rebounds, buckets..
msanchez said:
Braun never sees panicking, or in hurry.. that's what amazing.. yet he got all those rebounds, buckets..
High bbiq
Player of the game so far - CB with 6pts, 4rbs, and 2stls - when most needed
2 steals from CB? Great job!!
msanchez said:
2 steals from CB? Great job!!
Plus a couple deflections. Dude is a machine
BShark said:
msanchez said:
Braun never sees panicking, or in hurry.. that's what amazing.. yet he got all those rebounds, buckets..
High bbiq
Braun out here playing 8D blackjack while everyone else is just playing basketball.
hehe
@KirkIsMyHinrich whatever that means!
What happens to DMac? How's he in 1st?
SICK pass from Braun too bad Ochai couldn't make the shot.
Nice try, Ochai!
Really liked that possession. Just need to make shots
Nice strategy to give them the smaller basket in the second half
FarmerJayhawk said:
Really liked that possession. Just need to make shots
Agree, great possession.
Ochai is really struggling
WV 35 rbs, KU 23. OUCH
Sheboob got in the way
Daaaamn it. He traveled.
We need to box out better, pushing those bodies out..
Marcus goes to the bench and the offense goes stagnant
Braun needs to shoot a three
3 fouls on Silvio in about 3 minutes
Dotson settling for mid-range.lets at least pretend our wide open perimeter players can Shoot 3s
Getting killed on boards
CB should take those 3s..
Braun is doing an excellent job getting up on challenging 3s
THATS NOT A FOUL?!?!!?
WTF Silvio
Was he pushed? Was flying
@Crimsonorblue22 He took off too early..
NOT in OUR HOUSE!!
Mutumbo wag
Oscar is good but he pushes off a lot.
Shebob shine wearing off
Dokeš„
oh my
Holy hell, Doke.
DOKE!
DOKE!!!
D dot come on
Crimsonorblue22 said:
D dot come on
Im about to murder that ref
Close to being in the circle
Oh gawd, free throw time.
Need to make free throws
Lob much in our game plan?
Dotson has not scored this half
Run that back door all day. It works.
@KirkIsMyHinrich He's strong too, and it's so freakin' obvious on Doke, but yet, stupid refs didn't call those push-offs..
WVU has 41-26 RB edge
Woodrow said:
Dotson has not scored this half
Already more points this half too. Crazy.
Bwag said:
Lob much in our game plan?
As long as their game plan is undercut the jumper
Can we close a tight game this time?
FREE THROWS UGH
Ochai. Dude.
WALK
F.. travelling..
CHRISTIAN MF BRAUN
YES!!! Great rebound, DMac
Yes
Attaboy big Dave
Huge
Nice sequence from Dave
WOOOHOOOO!!! Look at that... 5 lobs in a game??
Nice sequence there for Dave.
little quick on that one, Garrett
The ghost of Phog Allen is protecting our rim.
come on Dot. Pass it.
Maan.. that would've been another lob.. Dot forced it..
Too many empty possessions last minute
DanR said:
come on Dot. Pass it.
Awful possession.
Dokešš¾
A couple of bad possessions there and now only up 3!
Dotson has not passed well all game
Braun might finally be tired
Braun was open, too..but Dot decided to take it by himself.
This team cannot execute in crunch time...
benshawks08 said:
Braun might finally be tired
Has he come out all half?
Come on. Awful possession after another
@approxinfinity Agreed with you on this one.
BShark said:
benshawks08 said:
Braun might finally be tired
Has he come out all half?
no
Dot come on, why u came back!š¤©
MARC G
Atta kid
Nice off the glass, Marcus!
Close this
5 freakin blocks by Dok!!!
Doke with 5 blocks?? Awesome
Ayfkm
FLOP!!!
RANCID CALL
Protect the ball, Dotson.
Oh so you canāt bear hug a guy on an out of bounds play?
UH OH, FREE THROW TIME
This crucial time, by now, we should learn how to close out for good..!!!!
What about the flop calls?
That guy bear-hugging Marcus Garrett is surprised it was a foul.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
That guy bear-hugging Marcus Garrett is surprised it was a foul.
As was the wv bench
YESSS!!!!
Garrett 4ā off the line
Garrettās improved FT shooting has been awesome
Bwag said:
Garrett 4ā off the line
But if he makes them !
Rock chalkš¼
Jayhawk!!!!
Almost there
CLOSED IT
We could run Braun and Marcus in the backcourt more.
Good time for Dot to pamper stat.. :)
Braun's marked improvement on defense is insane.
West Virginia and blowing double digit leads at Allen. Name a more iconic duo
Marcus closed it
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Marcus closed it
Rough game for Marcus Iverson Garrett haters.
@FarmerJayhawk Errr... BIFM & DG?
@FarmerJayhawk Bob Huggins and a flask.
@KirkIsMyHinrich He will be looking for that flask tonight.
I always enjoy Huggins during press conferences
0-8
Missed opportunity 𤣠Huggs knows betteršØ phogg
This proves, we really need Marcus to be in the game 90%
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk Bob Huggins and a flask.
Dude does love him some Johnny Walker per a bartender friend in Manhattan
Ya so I said it a while back but we probably beat Nova with Marcus.
Hugs should be happy he didn't get to see the bench..
Down side. ESPN+ for this game.
If Dotson can't shoot 3s or pass well, he's not as good as Marcus.
It's a W. Figured we'd have to grind this one out.
Good to see us cut down on the second half turnovers.
I enjoyed the second half. First half was UGLY. Rock Chalk!
This is fun, guys, thanks for letting me hang out with y'all!!! Great win!!!! Rock CHalk!!
Got killed on boards. ORB was ridiculous for WVU
@Crimsonorblue22 you betcha!
Although yeah, Devon was a big part of the O in the first half.
WVU slowed us up with all things - a zone - for a period there in 2nd half.
Wonder if weād practiced / scouted that for this game.
Azubuike 6-6, 17 points, 11 rebounds, and 6 blocks.
Lack of rebounding against WVU isn't too shocking especially with KU having to play 4 out to score.
@KirkIsMyHinrich wow! Self doesn't seem thrilled w/that announcer
Weird interview, with Self standing and neither announcer bothering to stand up to talk to him.
Only plus for ESPN+ was watching while getting hand X-rayād in 1st half!
@tundrahok I thought that too. streaming crew.
@Crimsonorblue22 yep. Not broken. Momentary light affliction from a mountain bike crash.
@Crimsonorblue22 yep. Thatās what my wife makes me do. Off hand but after another injury on other finger Iām down to a thumb and 2 fingers š.
But if there are any MTBās on here and want to come down to NW Arkansas, hit me up.
@Crimsonorblue22 thanks!
Mountain Biking
Anyone else concerned about another game with very little bench scoring? Only Braun scored. Only 6 shot attempts by nonstarters. WV got 20 points from its bench
@stoptheflop Weird game, low-scoring, so not too worried. Interesting that Braun played the entire second half without coming out (like Dot and Ochai).
What happened to Enaruna? Only played 1 minute.
Self said he'd give us a passing grade? Need moss och and ? Tristan to make shots. Can't rewind. Sounds really bummed about moss
@tundrahok just guessing he didn't do much, great guess huh?
Moss is hard to play if he's not hitting 3's because he doesn't really fill up the stat sheet any other way. There will probably be a handful of games where his 3-point shooting is very helpful to winning, though. This was not one of them. Kansas was 3-17 from deep today.
19-30 from the free-throw line. But if I'm remembering right, we were 3-10 from the line at one point, which means we shot 16-20 (80%) after that.
Enaruna came in, made a horrible play and promptly went to the bench.
A good win on paper and we finally finished a tight game. But man that was ugly to put it nicely. The 6 bench points are frustrating, Moss was a ghost with Tristan and Silvio has major issues. Iām not sure where to even start with him, air balling a 4 foot shot thatās wide open. Would suck to get sanctions over a guy thatās only been effective in 3 games in his entire career. Dotson continues to force up shots in the lane instead of kicking it out, resulting in turnovers and his 15/45 shooting performance the last 3 games. If we want to win anything this season he has to play better end of story. The effort put forth in the rebounding department this afternoon was elementary at best, out rebounded 44 to 30. Rarely does a team shoot the way we did and rebound like that to win the game. Not sure if itās just me but the last 5 or 6 years more often than not we donāt look ready to play. Not sure if the guys are out partying til 2 am or what but we had no energy or give a damn for the first 15 minutes today.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Moss is hard to play if he's not hitting 3's because he doesn't really fill up the stat sheet any other way. There will probably be a handful of games where his 3-point shooting is very helpful to winning, though. This was not one of them. Kansas was 3-17 from deep today.
19-30 from the free-throw line. But if I'm remembering right, we were 3-10 from the at one point, which means we shot 16-20 (80%) after that.
Absolutely agree. Braun otoh is a Marc G type that impacts the game in a multitude of ways.
@kjayhawks This is typical Bill Self. Game is tight and he rides 5-6 guys.
Ugly game but it's a win against a team that has become a big thorn in our side year after year. Since West Virgina came into the league they have given us fits almost every game.
Marcus, Doke and Braun get the game balls. Without marcus making that tough lay in and 2 fts we dont win this game. Hes big time
Had to stream the game on my phone (was at a bday party) and the quality was really good and convenient to be able to see the game away from home. Couldn't contribute much to the game thread but happy for the W. Thought Dotson really struggled again. Hopefully he gets out this slump
BShark said:
@kjayhawks This is typical Bill Self. Game is tight and he rides 5-6 guys.
Ride or Die with the guys who were playing well
BShark said:
Enaruna came in, made a horrible play and promptly went to the bench.
Not his game. He will get other chances but Braun is replacing him quickly
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@kjayhawks This is typical Bill Self. Game is tight and he rides 5-6 guys.
Ride or Die with the guys who were playing well
Every time.
Braun is really moving up the list. Did not see this coming based on early returns.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Enaruna came in, made a horrible play and promptly went to the bench.
Not his game. He will get other chances but Braun is replacing him quickly
Yeah, could have played out differently if he didn't go full derp.
I feel better w/game in marcus's hands than dot's, at the end.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@kjayhawks This is typical Bill Self. Game is tight and he rides 5-6 guys.
Ride or Die with the guys who were playing well
Every time.
Braun is really moving up the list. Did not see this coming based on early returns.
He is becoming a really nice player. 4 straight good games. Self was right about him, he is a gamer
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I feel better w/game in marcus's hands than dot's, at the end.
:hundred_points:
Get ready for a lot of these ugly games in the 50's and 60's today. KU also played essentially 6 men today.
@BShark He was crashing the boards hard today to the point of tackling people and was just on 50-50 balls in general. Only had 1 assist, but I thought he made some nice passes that weren't rewarded with made shots. He's a decent ball-handler and doesn't force things. It's already been said a million times but the guy just seems to get it.
Moss gotta find another way to help the team when his shots not falling,
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Moss gotta find another way to help the team when his shots not falling,
Didnt play much either but he saved us last game. Just how he is I guess
U think all our games will be tough? I kinda do.š©
@Crimsonorblue22 KState and Iowa St are pretty bad. Thinking at least our homes games against them won't be too bad. But KState is a purple team and Top 5 teams have been struggling with or losing to bad purple teams this year so I don't know. You're probably right, they'll all be hard.
@KirkIsMyHinrich great impact on defense too.
BeddieKU23 said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Moss gotta find another way to help the team when his shots not falling,
Didnt play much either but he saved us last game. Just how he is I guess
Yep. This is who he is.
Doke, Tristan and Ochai should all have games where they make big plays on both ends. I think those three plus Braun and Marcus should start. We need a 4-1 and so Tristan is the guy by default, because Dave isn't a 4 ever, and Silvio is awful atm. I'd play those 5 and let Marcus be primary handler until Dotson demonstrates that he can be more than a scorer.
@approxinfinity no way
@KirkIsMyHinrich we will struggle @ KSU, probably worse than most years because usually they are solid defensively but we are good offensively. Last season was an L because we sucked on offense, this year we look a little better but will struggle against defensive teams like we did today. Has a second round exit written all over it to me.
@approxinfinity can't bench Dot
@kjayhawks ksu is truly horrible
Move him to 2 spot, take him out at times
Foul! Isu tcu game
@BShark agreed but theyāve had teams they didnāt make dance beat us before and we all know itās their super bowl. It should be a 30 point game here and 15 point game there but Iāve seen us coming into that building asleep too many times in the past hand full of years.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Get ready for a lot of these ugly games in the 50's and 60's today. KU also played essentially 6 men today.
5 guys played >30 minutes, 4 guys played 10 minutes or less. Bimodal distribution.
After todayās game, Iād burn Wilsonās redshirt if heās able to go in the next few weeks to help find some bench production.
kjayhawks said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich we will struggle @ KSU, probably worse than most years because usually they are solid defensively but we are good offensively. Last season was an L because we sucked on offense, this year we look a little better but will struggle against defensive teams like we did today. Has a second round exit written all over it to me.
The offense is honestly worse than last year. The difference this year is the defense is much better. KU hasn't allowed more than 73 points in regulation in a game this year and only given up 65+ in a game 3 times this year.
That quality of defense can carry a team deep into the tournament, especially in a year without an elite team.
BShark said:
@approxinfinity can't bench Dot
yup, exactly what @Crimsonorblue22 said. not suggesting we bench him, just move him to the 2.
@Texas-Hawk-10 very true, this team has potential to be great on that end of the floor. But KSU always sucks on offense and will go on droughts pretty much every game. Last year is hard to tell because of much better we were with Doke and Vick with his head outta his rear end. We had Dedric shooting it 14-20 times to just get 20 points.
@approxinfinity you posted a starting line up without him unless I saw wrong.
@Texas-Hawk-10 see also: 2012
I loved the play where Braun got the ball at the top right of the key, looked downhill, nothing there, dribbled to left side scanning, nothing available. Dribbled to baseline, defense didnt challenge him on baseline where he was slightly behind the backboard, so he collected himself, and calmly potted a jumper from about 6 feet out.
The kid is woke.
Watching isu game?
kjayhawks said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 very true, this team has potential to be great on that end of the floor. But KSU always sucks on offense and will go on droughts pretty much every game. Last year is hard to til because of much better we were with Doke and Vick with his head outta his rear end.
I don't expect many blowouts this year home or away, maybe 3 or 4 and all at home. I also think we'll be able to count on one hand the number of times KU scores 70+ in Big 12 game this season. This team will struggle to score and play most B12 games in upper 50's and low 60's like today was.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think thatās a safe bet at this point.
@Crimsonorblue22 asinine, we shot 30 free ones to their 22, with them fouling us twice on purpose. I thought it was physical game but a good officiated one.
So Huggins is upset Dok shot a ton of freebies? It looked like his damn game plan.
Every team that plays at AFH thinks we get breaks! š¤¬
At least huggs didn't get kicked out today. I think this is the first wv game I've missed in a few years. Bummer.
kjayhawks said:
@Crimsonorblue22 asinine, we shot 30 free ones to their 22, with them fouling us twice on purpose. I thought it was physical game but a good officiated one.
KU got whistled for 19 fouls to WVU's 18.
msanchez said:
First timer here.. how ya'll doing?
That was nice pick & roll by Dok!
Let's go Jayhawk!!!
Welcome!
KU now 7-2 vs Kenpom top 100. #15 offense, #2 defense. The defense is winning games cause the offense isnt playing 4 guards enough.
BeddieKU23 said:
KU now 7-2 vs Kenpom top 100. #15 offense, #2 defense. The defense is winning games cause the offense isnt playing 4 guards enough.
Amazing to me that we suck at offense and are #15. If the team ever figures it out, watch out.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KU now 7-2 vs Kenpom top 100. #15 offense, #2 defense. The defense is winning games cause the offense isnt playing 4 guards enough.
Amazing to me that we suck at offense and are #15. If the team ever figures it out, watch out.
Probably #15 because of the good field goal %, low 3 attempts with decent % made and a few other metrics that matter.
It certainly is surprising given how the offense sputters and struggles to score at times. We may have an over critical look since it's our team but certainly the offense isnt as good as we have seen in other years and it's very likely not going to change
@BeddieKU23 Last year was pretty bad as well to be fair. Offense was give the ball to Dedric and pray.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Last year was pretty bad as well to be fair. Offense was give the ball to Dedric and pray.
True. Somehow I think unless we scrap the 2 bigs for a majority of the game, say 30 minutes small, 10 big we wont see the offense maximize its potential. It's a good thing most of the Big 12 will force KU to go small.
@BeddieKU23 agree. I think the offense can be better if this happens. Doesn't require sacrificing much if anything on D either.