I was counting the seconds until this happened after we reached #1 again.
Somebody out there who has their law degree....
Can the Jayhawk Nation create a class action lawsuit targeting the NCAA for their bogus allegations?
I'm sure we can substantiate actual damages and then there are punitive damages.
Not surprising there will be plenty more making the rounds.
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
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@drgnslayr I hope it's a problem we have to worry about.
@rockchalkwyo said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
Did you see his punchable face?
@BeddieKU23 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@rockchalkwyo said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
Did you see his punchable face?
lol, and there you go again lmao - - punch ,punch , punch - -ya just wanna punch him I think lol
This pissed me off to be honest. Our local sports radio talked about it today and how it could vacated. I really think that’s a long shot at best. Silvio has already served his suspension for one season, tho Wiseman took 6 times as much for 12 games. I’m sure how you could vacate anything but the second half of 2018 for him playing. Billy Preston played zero minutes so it probably doesn’t do squat in terms of vacating. They could give us a postseason ban but they don’t do it retro spec. Michigan didn’t even every year between the Fab 5 and 1996 vacated, the the 2 Chris Weber years.
@jayballer73 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@BeddieKU23 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@rockchalkwyo said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
Did you see his punchable face?
lol, and there you go again lmao - - punch ,punch , punch - -ya just wanna punch him I think lol
Never I dont know why you keep saying that.
Having said that there is just something about that forehead that's got it coming.
@BeddieKU23 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@jayballer73 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@BeddieKU23 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@rockchalkwyo said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
Did you see his punchable face?
lol, and there you go again lmao - - punch ,punch , punch - -ya just wanna punch him I think lol
Never I dont know why you keep saying that.
Having said that there is just something about that forehead that's got it coming.
lol, could of swore you said about him having such a punchable face - -maybe mistake on who said it - - but whoever said it - -I agree it is a very punchable face lol
"Because amidst the chaos of a season where it once appeared that no team would separate itself as the clear No. 1, it just so happens that Kansas is now the program that can throw up a single digit in the air — even if it’s a middle finger. "
So we should intentionally lose so we are not in defiance of the NCAA. Who makes this sh*t up?
Does anyone think anyone at Kansas is sitting back laughing at the NCAA (except for these bogus journalists)?
Unless the NCAA has investigative abilities more capable than the DOJ, these allegations have nothing behind them except innuendo?
@BeddieKU23 said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
@rockchalkwyo said in Our Warm Greeting To Being #1 Again!:
Gary Parrish had a video similar to this today.
Did you see his punchable face?
You've seen his face before!?!? All I've ever seen is the back of his head bobbing up and down between John Calipari's legs.
If the NCAA does go after KU, I hope KU goes Scorched Earth on the NCAA and brings about litigation that forces Duke, Kentucky, UNC, and others to be exposed for the cheating they do as well.
File a civil suit against the NCAA, name coaches and Nike execs as witnesses, force them to testify, if they plead the fifth, that can be used against those people in civil case unlike in a criminal case.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Deandre Ayton to Arizona and Sean Miller is on tape talking about a boatload of money. Zion didn't get the house he wanted from us for his mom to stay in so he goes to Duke, who presumably gave her a house. You're right. Throw the book at us, it better keep moving and take down all the other dirty programs.
I think so much has changed over the past 20 years or so. The strength of the NCAA, banking on the powers of private membership, has largely evaporated because of the huge impact to the general public. Once anything gets so big, it loses much of it's private membership powers.
I know we all want to litigate this in civil court. It's a long hard battle. Many of us won't even live long enough to see a conclusion. A long road to a judgment, then it gets appealed and it gets stretched out indefinitely.
@drgnslayr I don't want the litigation because it will end the NCAA because it won't. I want litigation because of the ability to call witnesses to expose everyone else in court. Recruits that were considered strong KU leans until the very end that decide to go elsewhere, call those coaches to explain how under oath. Call the Nike handlers for guys like Zion and Ayton and confirm they didn't turn down whatever their KU offers were to go to Arizona and Duke for free.
If the NCAA wants to single out KU, KU needs to expose everyone in open court.
Excellent point!
I have tried to tell you all before, you have a strangely magical thinking about litigation. Not going to belabor it, but KU as a member of the NCAA has voluntarily agreed to be subject to their disciplinary rules. Courts will generally allow private organizations to follow their rules provided they actually do so. KU can try to establish that any discipline imposed was a result of unfair application of their rules, but if KU violated any rules a court isn't likely to give 2 s---ts whether other schools have gone unpunished.
Courts review private adjudications for procedural fairness. It is not likely they will allow KU to drag in anyone to prove Zion or anyone received anything from other schools unless they can get some proof that some decision at the NCAA was made by someone with a proven bias or chose to engage in selective prosecution for an invalid reason.
"Invalid reason" does not include a desire to make an example of you. To draw an analogy, let's say you got pulled over out of 25 drivers and you feel you were singled out. But the police are not required to pull everybody over. If you were the only black driver and you got pulled over, an inference of improper motive could be drawn because there has been proven numerous policies of profiling over the years. But if you were going 90 and routinely passing every other speeder, you might find no sympathy even if another guy was going 95 at times.
Choosing to go after KU because it is an adidas school isn't a violation of fundamental fairness unless there is evidence of an improper motive. But the lawsuit can't be a fishing expedition to find that evidence--you need something to cross the threshhold first.
In this case, the NCAA ruling will likely come down to whether there is a credibility derermination to be made when/if KU staff tries to establish lack of any reason to believe, or investigate whether, adidas employees were engaged in illegitimate recruiting tactics. Credibility determinations are among the hardest issues to challenge, and any challenge would likely be based on the difference between an inference "possible" from the tapes and texts, as opposed to an inference "probable" from that evidence. Trying to relitigate that in court is usually problematic at best.
I actually believe the KU threats to litigate this to Kingdom Come are posturing that will eventually result in a settlement. If KU has actual admissions of bias from an NCAA whistleblower, obviously that suspicion on my part is less likely, but I doubt it exists. I think KU will get a settlement that vacates the final 4 and SDS's games that year (goodbye "Streak") and that puts KU on probation for a few years with a loss of a scollie or 2 for 3 years or so. Maybe a finding of lack of institutional control by failing to supervise adidas. But no finding of coach actual knowledge and so no separate sanctions against the staff including HCBS (except perhaps maybe a restriction on recruiting contacts or visits as part of the general findings). This could change if the charge of withholding evidence (Bill's phone) ends up being an actual attempt to cover up bad stuff as opposed to just missing a procedural deadline.
I think there will not be a tourney ban because Preston never played.
