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Whatever happened to "kneeling during the national anthem is a sign of disrespect toward the troops"? Those were the days...

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/former-acting-cia-director-explains-why-trumps-inaction-on-russian-bounty-scandal-will-make-things-worse/ ↗

It has been a month of no attempts to mask his ugliness. He's a feast for crows right now. I wonder what will be left of him when he's out. Certainly not his dignity. His fortune? His freedom?

Exposed imbecilic monster, like a dead giant squid splayed out on the beach and rotting under a harsh sun.

Melania knew this would happen.

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Can I do Ted Cruz here too?!

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@benshawks08 when he didn’t stand up for his wife, 🤡 lowest of low!

I’m kinda confused by this whole thing, especially the whole black beans thing. So the owner said positive things about trump? So now people are boycotting it? Doesn’t sound progressive to me. I could care less what companies I buy from feel politically if I’m buying a good product at a good price 🤷🏻‍♂️ This whole everyone must think like me movement in this country by both sides is crap IMO. I honestly think the Democrats would win if they had anyone decent to run against Trump. Instead they have the making out with his granddaughter and hair sniffing Biden before you get into his obvious mental issues. Trump runs his twitter account like a teenager that couldn’t win a 2nd grade spelling Bee. 4 more years of stupidity seems inevitable at this point.

@kjayhawks are you suggesting that Trump will win or that Biden is stupid? If you mean the latter, can we at least measure stupidity in orders of magnitude?

@approxinfinity I’m suggesting both unfortunately 🤣

@kjayhawks no way Trump wins.

@approxinfinity I feel like I’ve heard that before. COVID will not scare certain people away from the polls. Voter suppression is real and does anyone have any doubt he will do his best to make it the BEST VOTER SUPRESSION anyone has ever seen? Anyone think he is above cheating to win? No doubt others will be doing their damndest to stop and point out any and all improprieties but that hasn’t slowed him down yet. I honestly think he wins in November.

@benshawks08 unless Barr drops dead!

@benshawks08 Jesus. Can we exercise our right to be optimistic? I feel like that's been taken away from us.

This election isn't just about politics. It's about evil vs not evil.

Evil will lose when it is exposed because evil is hated, because evil violates the golden rule.

I anticipate a resurgence of true morality in this country. Better times ahead.

@approxinfinity keep on bringing it! Because I’m struggling to find it at the moment.

@approxinfinity I think trump will win in a landslide at this point unfortunately. But I also don’t like Biden so I won’t be happy regardless

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The polls are so overwhelmingly pro-Biden. I see no basis for your assumption that Trump will win in a landslide other than fantasy fan-fiction @kjayhawks.

To your second point, as I said a few posts up, this goes beyond politics, it's evil vs not evil. By evil I'm referring to Trump being an incompetent heartless idiot, and all of his cronies being on board for enabling this hellride. This is way beyond traditional Republican and Democratic positions. It's about the people.

@approxinfinity the Democrats don’t have clean hands in the slightest my friend.

It will be interesting to see if Epstein’s associate will make it to trial, she’s gonna bring down both sides if so. This wayfair thing is really interesting and it involves a fair share of elites from both sides. I don’t get how anyone at this point could think ether Biden or Trump are decent human beings.

@kjayhawks Evil are the people saying not to wear masks, and trying to force kids back to school while this virus is surging. Tell me, are the people doing that Democrats or Republicans? I want those people gone.

@approxinfinity I know Democrats refusing to wear masks. Is Biden evil if touching and more than likely sexually assaulting women? Is the Clinton foundation evil for stealing donations or selling uranium to Russia? What about wanting to do away with constitutional rights? Both sides are equally evil, not to mention Trump has Zero control as to when we go back to school. It’s rednecks vs Nazis at this point. I could write a book on the evils of the Democrat party just in my lifetime.

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

@Kcmatt7 what did the polls show in 2016???

@kjayhawks said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Kcmatt7 what did the polls show in 2016???

I said he’d need a repeat of 2016 in my post.

Last part:

“Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden…“

@Kcmatt7 I said it to be a smart ass lol. We all have our opinions. I won’t comment further with you or @approxinfinity on the matter.

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

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@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

Sure. A long ways to go.

But as of today it still looks like Trumps margin for error is razor thin. It was razor thin 4 years ago and he pulled it off.

I don’t agree on the third party this year. I did 4 years ago (voted Johnson myself).

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

Sure. A long ways to go.

But as of today it still looks like Trumps margin for error is razor thin. It was razor thin 4 years ago and he pulled it off.

I don’t agree on the third party this year. I did 4 years ago (voted Johnson myself).

I don't mean that a 3rd party would win this year, but with the outright disgust so people have with both mainstream parties right now, this is the year for a 3rd party to push to get invited to the debates and increase their profile to start giving themselves a better chance in the future. If the Libertarian or Green Parties don't take advantage of the situation being laid out in front of them this year, they may never get a better chance to break into the main stream and become real players in state and national level elections.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

Sure. A long ways to go.

But as of today it still looks like Trumps margin for error is razor thin. It was razor thin 4 years ago and he pulled it off.

I don’t agree on the third party this year. I did 4 years ago (voted Johnson myself).

I don't mean that a 3rd party would win this year, but with the outright disgust so people have with both mainstream parties right now, this is the year for a 3rd party to push to get invited to the debates and increase their profile to start giving themselves a better chance in the future. If the Libertarian or Green Parties don't take advantage of the situation being laid out in front of them this year, they may never get a better chance to break into the main stream and become real players in state and national level elections.

can we get a 4th party ?

This could challenge (and likely upset) some of our libertarian posters.

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The link in the tweet is a long read but definitely thought provoking.

Enjoyed Mccaskill calling Lindsey Graham a POS after his comments re: the Roger Stone commutation.

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@benshawks08 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

This could challenge (and likely upset) some of our libertarian posters.

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The link in the tweet is a long read but definitely thought provoking.

Cool, guess we ought to copy China by checks notes locking up problematic minorities, deporting all but the ethnic majority, canceling elections, and nationalizing all the major corporations..?

I did appreciate the handwaving that praised German and Japanese nationalism in the early 20th century but then skipped right to Chinese modernization without mentioning WWII and how the US rebuilt Europe, making the European social democracy thing even remotely viable. Like I get the US isn't perfect, but at least we're trying to get better. The Chinese government is actively becoming more authoritarian and making no bones about it.

He's not even trying to hide his disdain for the liberal experiment or anything approaching human rights, like freedom of speech. State capacity quickly turns to nationalism (with the possible exception of Korea, but DPRK didn't exactly miss the boat there) and to me, nationalism is just a fancy word for bigotry. Like, I have zero desire to live in Singapore, one of the countries that best dealt with COVID. Why? You can be caned for the absolutely horrific crimes of... umm... overstaying your visa or doing drugs.

I just don't believe for a second that liberalism is worth giving up, like the author suggests. I very much enjoy my freedom to call the President a racist asshole on boards such as this with nobody telling me I can't. He may be right in that there's tension between state capacity and individual freedom, and in that case, I'll take the latter every time in building a country.

Every day this drags on and gets worse I get angrier at Trump. What a piece of shit.

I'm having a bad day, for someone who has it pretty good. I know there are many people really struggling. :heart_suit:

I enjoy the idea here: https://defeatbytweet.org/ ↗

Listened to The Daily today and they reran an episode from mid March that I remember listening to then. They interviewed a doctor in Italy who explained that 30000 people had tested positive and 2000 had died. 20 had died at his hospital that day. He explained how visitors weren't allowed and people were dying alone. How they decided who would get the limited beds : younger patients getting priority on beds because the old likely would not survive. I remember my sadness then. It was a disaster. Now look at us.

Last week that Italian doctor's hospital had zero Covid patients, and they had a moment of silence for the dead, and a round of applause for the survivors. He was knighted for his efforts. They overcame.

We've done nothing. We squandered the warnings. We've fought with the scientists. We've reopened when we shouldn't, neglected to wear masks when we should. We've got teenagers running around on the beaches without a care, a deathtoll piling up, and politicians who want to open our schools in the middle of this.

What plane of hell is the United States in right now? Is Donald Trump an idiotic Antichrist?

@approxinfinity u should hear this press conference. He's gone off the deep end! It's all about Biden's speech from earlier today. Complete breakdown from it. He's breaking it down.

@Crimsonorblue22 I mean Jesus Christ. I didn't watch a single episode of The Apprentice because I had zero interest in listening to a soulless idiot wield power over people less privileged than he. Little did I know that half this country would some day want to subject us ALL to his despotic lunacy. Come on people! Learn to judge character! Or, if you realized what he was and voted for him anyway, please let's come to an agreement now that he's not fit to be President and that we'll never again vote for someone so stupid and selfish.

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@FarmerJayhawk a Manhattan Liberal maybe the best description of trump

"We want our country safe. We don't--unlike Biden, we don't want to have criminals pouring into our country." -- Trump today

“After reviewing the development of the spread of COVID-19, Mexico brought up to the United States the extension for another 30 days of restrictions to non-essential land travel along its common border,” -- Mexican Ambassador Martha Barcena today.

Congratulations, Donald Trump, you "secured our borders" by making the United States the epicenter of a global pandemic.

Our president probably watched this on his tv:

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@benshawks08 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Our president probably watched this on his tv:

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What the f*** did I just listen to?

@Kcmatt7 Fox “news”???

Quinnipiac poll... damn near looks fake

142,000 US deaths. Disinterest and apathy from the president to contain the virus. His intent all along was expressed early "the virus will just run through us like a wave" (from memory). 142,000 largely preventable deaths. That's 47.3 times the number of deaths when Osama bin Laden hit the World Trade Center and he was considered the worst kind of terrorist.

Waiting for the Nationals opening day game at 7 on ESPN. Why is this no mask wearing piece of shit on the television? Petty B couldn't stand that the Nats invited Fauci to throw out first pitch.

@approxinfinity Trump will probably tweet about the disloyal umps and catchers wearing masks...

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Waiting for the Nationals opening day game at 7 on ESPN. Why is this no mask wearing piece of shit on the television? Petty B couldn't stand that the Nats invited Fauci to throw out first pitch.

White House personnel and guests get tested upon entry so there’s no reason to wear one on WH grounds if you test negative.

@FarmerJayhawk sure there is.

https://www.clinicaloncology.com/COVID-19/Article/07-20/False-Negatives-Found-If-COVID-19-Testing-Done-Too-Soon/58781 ↗

Not to mention consistent modeling for his more confused devotees.

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@FarmerJayhawk sure there is.

https://www.clinicaloncology.com/COVID-19/Article/07-20/False-Negatives-Found-If-COVID-19-Testing-Done-Too-Soon/58781 ↗

Not to mention consistent modeling for his more confused devotees.

A mask just won’t help unless Trump himself actually has it. And since he’s tested at least once per day, the odds of that many consecutive false negatives would be pretty low. Presymptomatic spread is also pretty rare since viral loads are low at that point.

@FarmerJayhawk said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Waiting for the Nationals opening day game at 7 on ESPN. Why is this no mask wearing piece of shit on the television? Petty B couldn't stand that the Nats invited Fauci to throw out first pitch.

White House personnel and guests get tested upon entry so there’s no reason to wear one on WH grounds if you test negative.

From the stand point of contract Covid, there's no reason, but it would set an example for everyone who doesn't believe in wearing them to wear a mask so we can finally start seeing things return to normal. Although those people would probably just call Trump a traitor and hypocrite for wearing one.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Although those people would probably just call Trump a traitor and hypocrite for wearing one.

You think so? Is that really possible? There would at least be some lag until Q-Anon disowns him.

Robert Redfield gets top honor for worst supporting actor this week.

Excellent statistical analysis here:
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@benshawks08 Kansas has been healed! I can't believe nobody asked about that stupid map or about the bounties on our soldiers.

I just finished the Swan interview. As bad as I thought it would be from the memes and social media, it was much, much worse. It’s abundantly clear he’s incredibly in over his head, and knows very little about the state of the country.

@FarmerJayhawk Then Biden makes continues to make racist comments like this https://www.kake.com/story/42470296/biden-risks-alienating-young-black-voters-after-race-remarks?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KAKE-TV ↗

Been saying all along we are screwed either way.

Racially insensitive:

• Biden: Occasionally makes comments that suggest he is racially insensitive
• Trump: Repeatedly makes insensitive and incendiary comments and voices support for racist groups.

Inappropriate sexual advances:
* Biden: Has been accused by one person
* Trump: Boasted about grabbing pu**y in an interview on live radio, numerous video and photographic evidence including his association with Jeffrey Epstein, not to mention numerous allegations from business women to prostitutes.

Call me crazy, but I'm going to go with Biden if we keep dredging up this kind of stuff about Biden.

There are plenty of other things that are not great about Biden. But we're talking many degrees of magnitude between these two humans. One is like a hand grenade and the other is like 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate.

@bskeet more than one woman has come forward and accused him of sexual assault. I think it’s closer to a dozen and if you watch him embrace women, he is without question unbelievably handsy to put it nicely. That’s before you get into the videos of him inappropriately touching and sniffing young women. It really shouldn’t matter how many times it has happened. Once is too many times. As I’ve always said to the Democrats May as well say “Vote for our rapist pedophile!! He’s better than the other one”. Think of how stupid that sounds. Since Bill Clinton has been in office the Democrats have not cared about the actions of their nominees but criticize the opposition for the same thing. It’s called hypocrisy my friend and there is a ton of in politics these days.
Edit: I’ve also heard Biden say more racist things than Trump.

@kjayhawks said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Edit: I’ve also heard Biden say more racist things than Trump.

I don't know what to say to this.

We are certainly NOT hearing or seeing the same things.

I'm not going to defend Biden. I already said there is plenty of reasons to be apprehensive about Biden.

But my decision will be based on Trump's body of work. And, taking that into account, a banana peel has more integrity, is more qualified to perform the duties of the presidency and is less dangerous — even if you are running with forks — than Trump.

I mean, c'mon! He's botched this whole pandemic and recovery stimulus and made the US look more inept than most 3rd world countries. The resulting health costs are going to be ginormous.. and the national debt which has soared, is going to take a century of sacrifice to reconcile.

@bskeet haha I like the banana peel comment. If the people want change, they won’t vote for either guy. They both aren’t fit to lead a chuckie cheese let alone a country.

@kjayhawks I think you are underselling the amount of damage Trump can do over replacement with 4 more years. Irreparable.

There are 2 members of the house and zero members of the senate that are not Republican or Democrat. If you want to make change I think you start there not throwing your vote away for a 3rd party presidential candidate, a la Kanye West supporters.

@approxinfinity I agree about Kanye being a joke but it’s gonna the same crap if a Democrat or republican goes in. I say we vote every last one of the turds out. I’ll be honest with you Trump being in the White House has had zero to little effect on me personally. I had little effect with Bush’s second term when I was barely an adult. The major effect I’ve had by a president was my healthcare sky rocketing under Obama.

@kjayhawks is living through a mishandled pandemic with your country on lockdown not affecting you personally? I have to think that you don't think Trump is affecting you personally because you're not giving him enough credit.

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@approxinfinity that could true but I still firmly believe the Democrats would’ve screwed it up as well. Most of them weren’t taking seriously for months either.

“Vote the bums out” is how we got Trump. WE COULDVE HAD JEB!.

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

There are 2 members of the house and zero members of the senate that are not Republican or Democrat. If you want to make change I think you start there not throwing your vote away for a 3rd party presidential candidate, a la Kanye West supporters.

How does continuing to vote for members of a 2 party system stop the problems that have been created by having a 2 party system since basically Washington left office?

Obviously Kanye isn't the answer, but voting third party isn't throwing your vote away. It's telling the two parties to "f-off, I'm done with your shit." This notion that voting third party is throwing your vote away is a myth. Is a third party candidate like Jo Jorgensen, a legitimate third party option unlike Kanye, going to win in 2020? No, but that doesn't mean that people who are sick of Dems and Reps should settle for the "lesser of two evils" which was a very common response to why someone voted Trump or Clinton 4 years ago. Baby steps are important though and this election cycle would be a huge victory for the entire country if the campaign to get Jo Jorgensen on the debates with Trump and Biden are successful.

Even if people disagree with Libertarian ideology, just seeing someone in the presidential debates that isn't a Dem. or Rep. would be a huge wake up call to people that there are more than two options out there.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don't think it's a myth, I think it's circumstantial. I'm not saying that in every presidential election voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away. I'm saying that in this one, Trump must lose. I appreciate that seeing a viable 3rd party candidate in the debates would be good. I just don't think we can survive 4 more years of Trump and wouldn't do anything to jeopardize his defenestration.

Getting a third party candidate on the stage isn't the same thing as voting 3rd party.

Each voter has to rank their priorities and vote as such. Mine are: 1. Get rid of Trump 2. Preserve the Republican Senate 3. Throw out as many incumbents as possible. So my ballot is going to look really weird. I’ll probably vote D President, R Senate, L House, R most statewides, R legislature (my district is deep, deep blue).

@FarmerJayhawk "Weird" ballots are good. It sends a message to the parties (not the same message as voting for a 3rd party candidate, but similar) and it doesn't 'throw a vote away'.

I have always voted like that. I like to think it means I'm voting for "the person" and I don't subsume values that perfectly align down party lines.

You're talking as if Trump is BAU; he's not.

@FarmerJayhawk said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

“Vote the bums out” is how we got Trump. WE COULDVE HAD JEB!.

I'm going to start paying a lot more attention to Republican primaries.

While Harris certainly has a problematic history as an AD and Biden supports some policies I don’t necessarily agree with it sometime helps to remember the guy they are running against retweets stuff like this truly believing he was sent by god to defeat his enemies (the democrats): 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
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Not a great look of unity is what you are after.

Yeah. It's the choice between "meh" or "disaster and the destruction of our democracy".

MEH ALL DAY LONG, BABY!!!

@approxinfinity And I’m all for finding candidates I am truly excited about but feel like that has to happen on the local level. Just not a viable option at the National and often even state level at this point.

@benshawks08 Any Democrat in the debates with the exception of Bloomberg and Williamson would have been better than Kamala. Better candidates are getting to the national stage. Same thing happened to the Republicans. Trump, a horrible person, managed to beat out a more qualified, more humane field.

Unless you're specifically talking about candidates of color. To which I would say Yang was solid, and aging like a fine wine rn. And Obama obviously made it.

Something is wrong here that isn't solved by getting better local politicians elected.

@approxinfinity Oh yeah. Totally agree. Forgot about Bloomberg. Thank god it isn’t him. That’s why I said “at this point” meaning the pick is made, the primaries are over, etc.

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So freaking scary.

Lmao Steve Bannon.

Damn near every advisor to that 2016 campaign is going to have spent time in jail.

This is hysterical!! How many more people close to Trump have to go to prison before it clicks?

@Kcmatt7 absolutely. Totally picking up what you're dropping, my QAnon brother.

Galaxy brain time. Maybe QAnon was right at the beginning when they said Robert Mueller was Q??

Actually I’m Q and I use this account to throw off the scent.

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No idea if this is true or not. If true, lol.

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No idea if this is true or not. If true, lol.

I asked a member of the RNC about this. They told me due to covid they couldn’t bring the whole platform committee together so they just adopted the 2016 platform.

@FarmerJayhawk were they trying to do it by mail?🤣

@Crimsonorblue22 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@FarmerJayhawk were they trying to do it by mail?🤣

Ha! Might have been easier than teaching a bunch of older folks how to use Zoom tbh

@FarmerJayhawk a cop out. I expected nothing more.

They don't have aides that could help them use a computer?

"Continued enthusiastic support of Trump's America First agenda..." 176,802 dead and counting. Still first!

Wasn't trump making fun of the virtual dnc for being so boring, shooting speeches ahead of time, Michelle being 20,000 deaths short😱. 🤡 🤔 I thought they were going to be live?

Wow they actually have a couple that pointed their guns at BLM protesters as speakers?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/24/rnc-schedule-speakers-tonight.html ↗

Yeah but... No amendments to the platform right? Was that part of the 2016 platform then?

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@FarmerJayhawk a cop out. I expected nothing more.

They don't have aides that could help them use a computer?

"Continued enthusiastic support of Trump's America First agenda..." 176,802 dead and counting. Still first!

No, they’re all volunteers. I’m not defending it, that’s just what the committee voted to do. Platforms are garbage that nobody reads or cares about anyway since the parties are so weak ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I miss my old party. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/24/republicanmeltdown-trump-convention-400039?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f112-dd93-ad7f-f917a87a0000&nlid=630318 ↗

@FarmerJayhawk wow that's sad. So... Why not sell the house and move to a nicer neighborhood? I mean.. It sounds like the Democratic Party would be a likely landing spot for disillusioned conservatives. Force the Democratic party to stay centrist and the progressives have to jump ship or stay anchored.

@approxinfinity I’ve never been a Republican, probably a touch more to the right than left on most subjects. But both parties have just grown into a bunch of hypocritical fools. They changed back and forth on what they believe. Look up Democrats as recently as Clinton, then go back to Kennedy and FDR. All 3 of those guys would be considered far right if they were running today. The two party system has failed us for much of my life by making us choose between the lesser of evils. If really want change (Obama preached it but little actually changed) vote 3rd party.

The change I want is this ass-clown out or the oval office. The problem with a dichotomy is that it is self perpetuating. One does not want to give up leverage to the "greater of two evils" with no chance of victory for the 3rd party candidate you would like to support. And running a convincing winning campaign as a third party candidate to date has not been very plausible. Maybe if third parties get better at leveraging social media or something. Build online pacts to agree they will all vote for the 3rd party guy, etc.

@approxinfinity said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@FarmerJayhawk wow that's sad. So... Why not sell the house and move to a nicer neighborhood? I mean.. It sounds like the Democratic Party would be a likely landing spot for disillusioned conservatives. Force the Democratic party to stay centrist and the progressives have to jump ship or stay anchored.

I watched the DNC last week and it reinforced all the reasons I’m not a Democrat 😂

@FarmerJayhawk well, I can't say I watched most of it; I didn't. And I can't say i didn't see any stupid moments. So, I'm open to something better. I just can't trust the Republican Party.

@approxinfinity I’m very happy as an independent. In North Carolina independents can vote in either primary so I’ll be one for the foreseeable future.

I'm not registered with either party. It's the same here in Virginia re: primaries, for now.

Reminder Trump appointed this guy

@BShark said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Reminder Trump appointed this guy

Reminder he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate to multiple executive branch posts and rated as qualified by the ABA. Some rando named Elena Kagan never tried any cases before getting 60some votes to be a Supreme Court Justice.

Scotus and the federal judiciary system will be worse due to Trump appointees imo. Mostly due to scotus being so far right now. I'm just here to dump on Trump.

Wheeeeew this speech is bad.

I heard no one is wearing a mask. On brand.

I need to teach him make up skills! First, boys don’t wear it.

@BShark Herman Cain is waiting! These lies are making me 🤮

@FarmerJayhawk I think ivanka is co president, we we we. I heard she told LEGO story before only it was her that made it.🤷‍♀️

I just want to take a spatula to his face, scrape that off!

I try to be responsible and listen to both conventions. But after the events of this week combined with listening to the poisonous rhetoric from Trump, I want to mail my ballot ASAP and then go live in a cave until Nov 4.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

I need to teach him make up skills! First, boys don’t wear it.

I’ve worn some a few times in school plays and tv hits ¯_(ツ)_/¯. I didn’t hear the Herman Cain line. There was a lot going on there

Herman Cain died after the Tulsa campaign rally, Covid. He was right in the middle of it, no mask. I guess that's what you are asking.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Herman Cain died after the Tulsa campaign rally, Covid. He was right in the middle of it, no mask. I guess that's what you are asking.

Ah, gotcha. Met him years ago at another event, super nice guy. Rest In Peace.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Herman Cain died after the Tulsa campaign rally, Covid. He was right in the middle of it, no mask. I guess that's what you are asking.

But his zombie twitter account lives on
https://slate.com/technology/2020/08/herman-cain-death-twitter.html ↗

Lol at the right constantly talking about the “indoctrination of our youth” and then their fearless leader literally signs an order doing just that 😂

@Kcmatt7 Can’t imagine what could possibly go wrong with that...

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Lol at the right constantly talking about the “indoctrination of our youth” and then their fearless leader literally signs an order doing just that 😂

Schools certainly shouldn’t teach history from a CRT/1619 frame. They also shouldn’t teach only that America is awesome and has never done wrong. Both sides can shove it.

Thank you @mayjay for the reminder to point out abhorrent stuff. Trump only cares for himself, he literally could not care less about veterans. 🐦 View Tweet?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ

@FarmerJayhawk interesting thread you revived, rereading my earlier comments i see someone else. More passion, more anxiety, far less chill. Maybe a few more braincells, maybe less heart.

How in the hell is it possible that I've not seen (or don't remember) THIS thread???

Everyone needs to step back and take a collective breath. There is only ONE candidate that is fit for this position. He is the clear choice to live among and lead HIS people. He WILL be the President !!!!! Of

THE TRANS-ALLEGHENEY LUNATIC ASYLUM

@nuleafjhawk I think we all kinda memory holed 2020 lol

This thread is a reminder of why we need ranked choice voting in this nation for elections and to heavily modify or abolish the Electoral College to more accurately reflect how the population of states actually vote.

And we need to arrange it so that imbeciles, perverts and criminals are not allowed to run for office.

@nuleafjhawk I'd love to see how that would work!

@mayjay me too!

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

This thread is a reminder of why we need ranked choice voting in this nation for elections and to heavily modify or abolish the Electoral College to more accurately reflect how the population of states actually vote.

This is the way

@nuleafjhawk that covers 90% of the people in office.

@kjayhawks Probably 90% of humankind, to be honest.

@mayjay , @kjayhawks - let's go for that top 10% then!

Not open Pandora’s box but we all know Epstein didn’t make it because he had dirt on both side of the political spectrum. That’s probably the fastest way to die in this country. Those flight logs that took years to be released smh.

There are two things going on at the same time when you think about people in public office. The first, is the type of people who run for office have certain traits and characteristics that may lead them to dirty deeds and corruption. Like the hall monitor in school really just being the kid who wants to control everyone else.

There's also the very real impact that power has on anyone. When a person gets power, their psyche and hence their actions change. There are a ton of studies showing that even the smallest advantages and power structures can lead a good chunk of people into immoral/unfair actions.

With those two things combined you get a lot of people prone to taking advantage of systems and power dynamics having the most access to do just that, and others who may not be as prone to it, following along because that's how everyone is doing it and because human nature tends to lead most people into exploiting their advantages for personal gain.

That leaves very few who have the will and the make-up to withstand those pressures and just be generally good people in positions of power. None of this excuses the corruption and all the rest of what makes so many politicians seem slimy to the rest of us, but can help explain it. It is right and should be our overall goal to find the few among us who are well suited for power, rather than those who just crave it the most.

Obama alluding to Trump’s “weird obsession with crowd sizes” :eggplant: :ok_hand: was classic. Also referred to his childish name calling and Trump torpedoing the bipartisan border bill for personal gain.

Its historically been difficult for Trump to act dignified and when he blows his top the democrats will be right there to remind everyone how weird he is.

Im curious what tack he can/will take here.

@approxinfinity what bothers me more than DT is the cult following of his.

I'm genuinely frightened by human beings who worship a well established pervert/idiot/psychopath. WHY? What the hell are these morons thinking? Every time I see a Trump flag I am immediately discouraged and afraid for our country.

@nuleafjhawk well. Luckily his genuine worshippers
are a smaller subset of the people who voted for him.

@nuleafjhawk I actually have more respect for those crazy followers who fervently believe DJT was annointed hy God to save America. It is the people who are well-reasoned who deliberate and then choose him who scare me the most. The Nazis would not have succeeded if they were only the lunatics. Opportunistic but sane people hungry for position and riches gave the brownshirts their passive permission to seize power.

@mayjay the situation scares me more than the people. Make it easy to be good, and the people will be good.

My two Chicago citizen kids loved the convention! My daughter was told to work from home and because so many others did the same, my son who can't work from home had much shorter commutes to work, even though he works just a mile from the United Center!

He looks like a raccoon on meth

Kamala dunking on him all night. Might move the needle a point or two :crossed_fingers:

The rope a dope strategy was a great call. Just let him say the most unhinged shit imaginable. E.g. THEYRE EATING THE DOGS

@FarmerJayhawk It's especially silly for DT & JDV to make that claim because we all know Joey Chestnut ate most of the dogs.

@mayjay exactly. The country isn’t going to the dogs, it’s going to the GOAT

@FarmerJayhawk I really liked the tie-in when he said earlier in the debate “Run Spot, Run.”

@patoh3
finally, a policy at his reading level

Someone check Joey Chestnut’s birth records, must be Haitian.

I’d say Kamala won that dedate from the clips I’ve seen. She is a long ways behind tho we’ll see what it does. I still don’t trust the rhetoric of I’ve been in government for decades but now I’ll fix this stuff if you vote me. The only part Trump won was when she said he was against democracy and he brought up how she wasn’t even elected for the Democratic Party and how they lied about Bidens health for so long.

China , Syria , N Korea , Russia , just waiting and licking their chop for Harris to win the election

@jayballer67 You made a slight mis-spelling. "Harris" is spelled "Trump"

@nuleafjhawk said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@jayballer67 You made a slight mis-spelling. "Harris" is spelled "Trump"

No I had it right. - -And to make things clear for you, I'm writing my own name in for President cause neither of these two could win a hot dog eating contest, little lone run a Country roflmao

I think @FarmerJayhawk would be a good president

@kjayhawks I'm not smart enough to start a new thread - why don't you start a "who do we vote for " thread??

@nuleafjhawk lmao

I mean, anyone who watched that debate saw an old, confused and self-important man getting run in circles by a coherent woman. The optics were so consistently bad for Trump throughout the debate that there is very little room for creative interpretation. Thats really bad.

I really cant see how anyone who says Biden is unfit for the office can turn around and say Trump is. Theyre both too old, personality or agenda aside.

@approxinfinity I can honestly say that I've hated/despised Trump since WAAAY before he became a convicted criminal/sociopath. I mean politician. The first time I saw his dumb ass TV show - I immediately wrote him off as a nut job.

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF is wrong with people who can't see this????? He is a deplorable waste of human skin. I know that ultimately God is in control, but I think even He must shake His head and think " I should have scrapped this project long ago ".

This Trump person must not be elected president.

All I know is this...I'm gonna hug my dog as much as I can before I go to bed. You just never know...

@approxinfinity like I always say in the real world people above the age of 65 are considered unemployable but yet they almost exclusively run this country.

@nuleafjhawk somebody told me there was a really good book, Caste, that explains why Maga's believe whatever trump tells them. I'm interested.

@Crimsonorblue22 Get ya a copy and let me know what you think. Wait - if any proceeds go to D.T., never mind.

The weird thing is how much people believe in politicians these days. There are yard signs everywhere and bumper stickers. I miss the days when people didn’t identify with whomever they voted for like their lives depended on it.

@kjayhawks Right? Every time I see a political sign/banner/poster (especially for Demon Tramp) I think - are they doing this just to get a rise out of people? Are people really this Flippin stupid? Do they hate themselves and their families?

It honestly reminds me of back in the day (yes, I'm this old) when I would go to All-Star Wrestling matches in my town and surrounding cities and me and my friends would root (LOUDLY) for the bad guys. Lord Alfred Hayes. Dr Ramey and the Interns. Baron Von Raske. There were so many more that I've forgotten about, but whoever was "Bad" we cheered for. Strictly to get a rise from the old farmers and farmer's wives in overalls. And it worked.

Congratulations, Tramp fans. Your loud cheering is working. You're pissing off the good guys. Now take down the damn banners and do what's right for our country.

@nuleafjhawk Sadly, they fervently believe it. Remember, an entire wing of evangelicals believe DJT was annointed by Jesus to save America.

@mayjay That's one of the saddest and scariest things I've ever heard

While the thread is on Donald Trump, my view is that very large number of politicians are hypocrites.

They only understand two languages, money and votes.

They will change their positions in a heartbeat as it suits politically.

Kamala Harris is in the same group. Unlike DT who is loud and brash, I call such politicians silent assassins.

I think the job requirements have changed over time for politicians.

At one point they may have been:
“Represent the will of most of your people, even if it goes against your own will. Within limits of course. Dont be crazy, this is a representative democracy for a reason. “

Now its more like:
“Be crazy and contentious, because that gets picked up by the media and people have been conditioned to expect it. Secretly, do whatever special interest groups want because they pay the bills”.

Then someone comes along who is more like:
“I’m naturally crazy and contentious. People love me! Oh my God, I’m the GOAT President! Dafuq does a President do anyway? Ez. Run, spot, run” and people who vote for his party have already been conditioned to agree that he is the GOAT, because the system was set up to embrace crazy contentious politicians.

Unfortunately the swamp we have in Washington is in fact a systemic problem which Trump is a poster child for, not an outsider. We have a cult of personality that the masses have been conditioned to embrace, and then backroom dealings to fund it. Nowhere is this actually set up to move us in a positive direction. If that happens in any respect, its happy coincidence.

Kamala humiliating Trump in a debate had to be done. That is what sells. At least, that is what the media outlets are selling. Im curious how much more contentious it can get, and will we see a return to civility once DT is done? Is there any future state where civility sells? Can we make being rational cool? Can we make it sexy? Can we make it fun?

These questions are at the core of determining what the American soul looks like going forward.

@AsadZ Most people assume that when I bash Trump, I automatically love Harris/Biden/Democrats. Not true. I basically despise all politicians.

What I do see in Harris is

1) She's not 1,000 years old.

2) She know how to smile. Not smirk, smile.

3) She is intelligent, not a blithering idiot.

4) She's not a convicted criminal.

5) She's not Donald Trump.

Trump gives me the chills. I truly believe he is evil. I wouldn't want the sonofaB to be president of my golf club, let alone the United States.

We have to get this right.

@approxinfinity

After the debate I went through several social media outlets to find that many people I assume that are voting Republican thought the debate was rigged, it was "3 vs 1", "Kamala knew the questions before hand and they were only attacking Donald". Those were some of the common things said. Saw hundreds of comments from several different articles and outlets voicing similar. I mean there is just going to be a % that no matter the outcome of a debate or anything are going to immediately discount it at all costs. Perhaps that's what some people have been conditioned to do at this point. Everything is against Donald, it's a conspiracy. I'd assume that's the message he sends out in his speeches for his followers.

@nuleafjhawk Despite all of his issues, the race is very tight, almost 50-50.

Kamala and Dems should be destroying DT.

But yet almost half of country is supporting DT and not all are MAGA republicans.

One has to ask why?

To me the answer is simple, Biden/Kamala policies have not worked, and Americans are not happy with how country has been run.

While I am not a fan of DT, I strongly believe that if COVID had not hit hard, DT would have won easily in 2020.

Blaming a poor performance on others such as the moderators, is very consistent with not being accountable for one's mistakes.

All I ever would need to know about Trump, even if I'd never seen him before and if I just climbed out of a 10 year isolation chamber, is that he took Laura Loomer to 9/11 memorials this week. She contends 9/11 was an inside job. That woman is too much even for Marjorie Taylor Greene.

What if Kansas football has to suck for everything to go back to normal

@kjayhawks well, we're used to Kansas football sucking anyway