kjayhawks said:
I cooled down after a shower, I got a little heated there sorry folks. Just disappointed in the last few days here. Lost a game we thought would be a good one Saturday, then complete blow this game with turnovers. Rough week for the hawks.
Saturday is on you a bit I think, though you are not alone, many got tricked. I expected KSU to roll as this is far from my first rodeo.
Idk a starting line-up with three guys that can't shoot sure doesn't help. That said we did see that bully ball can work, gotta clean up the TOs.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Look at it this way. If we turn it over ONLY 25 TIMES we win. My lord.
Imagine if they cut that number in half.
I actually don't feel too terrible about this loss. Just kind of venting with some typing/verbal diarrhea.
BigBad said:
We have one play maker, Dotson, who didn't make plays or lead. Agbaji is not very good off the ball yet. I think the Lightfoot red-shirt is a mistake. Self's best teams always had a senior who calmed things down simply by being in the right place and doing things correctly.
We need Dotson's ankle to heal. I'd give him mine if I could.
On Mitch, when you read the statement Bill put out it seems fairly clear to me that Bill wishes he had Mitch available but this is what is best for Mitch getting his post grad paid for.
rockchalkwyo said:
We will be fine guys. We out shot them in fg% and 3%. Turnovers can be fixed. We will get it figured out by the Michigan State game
We have to beat UCLA or BYU to even play MSU most likely. I'M NOT CONVINCED.
@FarmerJayhawk Defense can still be an issue depending on the opponent. Offense was CLEARLY an issue tonight. Can't shoot, turnover machine.
DanR said:
Shooting wasn't the problem 44%
4/11 from three. Just didn't get enough shots due to the turnovers
100000%
A normal turnover game and this is an easy win.
approxinfinity said:
Give Tristan, Jalen and Braun all the minutes they can handle.
We see tonight what Self really thinks of Braun and Wilson.
@tundrahok I agree I've been saying offense is the issue. If we had a guy that could consistently hit that Marcus Morris elbow midrange jumper it would be a different story.
I think Jalen and Tristan are promising at the 4. Wonder what direction Bill will go in.
kjayhawks said:
@BShark hasn’t worked in years, 16-18 was great with four guards.
The problem, at least as I see it is playing two true centers specifically. Guys with no range at all. We have the pieces to put legit size out there at the 4 spot without completely sacrificing spacing which makes it even more frustrating.
DanR said:
Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain't going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
I'm very over playing 2 5s at the same time.
approxinfinity said:
@BShark I forgot Dotson is still hurt. That's comforting.
He was getting by guys at times still but you could really tell he wasn't right. Rest up and get a W on Friday.
@Kcmatt7 Good news is we had a lot of correctable errors.
wissox said:
I don't think we can blame the Duke whistle on this one. Duke is ranked 3 in the country. Maybe the pollsters are right and we just lost to a really good team in our first outing of the season?
Honestly both teams looked bad to me. I want to see this KU team with a truly healthy Dotson (he was clearly still hobbled a bit) and Moss in the mix as well.
kjayhawks said:
I’m pissed, Jones is ten times the player of Dotson. Dook has better players and a better coach.
no
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Bill needs to start recruiting bigs that can shoot.
He did. One plays for the other team. And Wilson just isn’t ready.
True, true.
We only took 11 threes. Wow.
Bill needs to start recruiting bigs that can shoot.
approxinfinity said:
You guys are nuts. We are so much better than this Duke team once we figure it out.
Very much agree with this.
Dave has to be better than that Doke was wide open.
Well that was awful
Marc G
DanR said:
Dot seems to be at about 80%
LET"S GO.
Seems clear to me as well
Rim monster
KU is +10 on the glass. They've shot 9% better from the floor. They've made and shot 6 more free throws. They should be up by 15+. Instead, they're down one because turnovers.
From a guy on twitter that is absolutely correct.
Seriously, if Dave takes another jumper...
BeddieKU23 said:
If our best offense is a McCormack jumper let's scrap that playbook bill
Maybe Bill thinks he has Matt Hurt.
27 turnovers and leading is insane.
Push off this
MARC G
@Woodrow Luuuucccccky
It was 46-37 with 14:35 to go. 6 points in 7 minutes ain't gonna do it.
DanR said:
Five minutes of good basketball will win this easily.
Not sure if this team is capable atm
No more Big Dave jumpers
Woodrow said:
It’s November but there is no reason KU should lose this game. Will be a bad loss.
Really is a bad loss.
Oh no Silvio...
Crimsonorblue22 said:
3 secs
Should have been lol
Can't fault the effort at least...
Gotta make that wide open three.
Turning it over again...
Woodrow said:
Tristan is forcing everything.
By far his biggest issue. He isn't a playmaker yet, he needs to do what he can and move the ball.
DanR said:
Tristan not ready for prime time
Agree but I think he will get there eventually. Very promising.
Smart of them to foul Doke tbh
wissox said:
Just missed a bunch of FTs. Big lead disappears.
Neither team wants to hit them apparently.
Tristan is gonna be a DUDE eventually.
Legit hate to see that. Hope Javin is okay.
Ochai is the best player in this game. Don't @ me.
Bwag said:
Fouls mounting on some of our guys.
Silvio appears to be the lost man. Wonder if he will get tick due to foul trouble.
nuleafjhawk said:
Bilas makes me miss Billy Packer.
Let's not say things we can't take back! :p