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Remember the Ashley Judd-Dick Vitale kiss? That was rhetorical, clearly that image will be burned into our brains for years to come.
Judd went on MSNBC to talk about things she has coming up, but that's not what you're here for. Skip to the 3:30 mark, the Kentucky fan talks about "the kiss that can't be unseen." The actress says it was taken out of context and social media is so vicious that she's pressing charges. Not sure how she would figure out who to bring charges against, but she's going to give it the old college try.
Judd is right about social media because it does bring out the worst in some people. On the other hand, when you lay a smooch on the most famous voice in college sports, you're guaranteed to get some press.
"I kiss strangers at games all the time," Judd said.
Not sure what exactly happens at Kentucky games, but sounds entertaining.
I think if she "spills the beans" KU could go down too.
@JayHawkFanToo what was that other chart we saw last week?
@wissoxfan83 I think they are wrong
@wissoxfan83 he probably won't play, but I'm pretty sure that it is still possible.
@JayHawkFanToo I don't think he can travel, not positive though. He wasn't on their bench for away games this semester. Never did hear what his punishment was.
The Kansas-Wichita State basketball series spans 14 games and 107 years. Neither are figures worthy of the term ârivalry.â
Still, the possibility of the teams meeting on Sunday in an NCAA Tournament third-round game at Omaha excites a state and more specifically its largest city. Wichita is home to die-hard Shockers and true-blue Jayhawks, and the thought of the teams getting together on an NCAA court â when the teams arenât meeting on their own â will have the city buzzing for days.
Hereâs a look at the series between the Shockers and the Jayhawks. Itâs been extremely one-sided â Kansas has won 12 of the 14 meetings â but Wichita State will always claim bragging rights for what, up to now, has been the most important matchup.
Game 1: 1908-09, KU 65, Fairmount College 15 (at Wichita)
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Phog Allenâs Jayhawks were 7-0 during an eight-day tour of Kansas and northern Oklahoma. The 50-point win at Fairmount was by far the biggest blowout of the seven. The teams didnât meet again for 32 years.
Game 2: 1940-41, KU 54, Wichita 39 (at Wichita)
KU was coming off its NCAA second-place finish, while WU wouldnât be Division I until after World War II. One of the Jayhawks that night was Ralph Miller, who a decade later would be coaching the Shockers.
Game 3: 1941-42, KU 56, Wichita 37 (at Wichita)
The Wheatshockers were 4-16 in Jack Starrettâs only season as coach. KU went on to the NCAA Tournament in Millerâs senior season.
Game 4: 1955-56, KU 56, Wichita 55 (at Wichita)
Ralph Millerâs only time in Wichita coaching against Allen, his mentor. It was the dedication game for WU Field House (the Roundhouse), which seated more than 10,000. Allen, while complimentary of the new arena â KUâs Allen Fieldhouse had opened the previous spring â noted that it shouldâve been built to a bigger capacity.
Game 5: 1980-81, WSU 66, KU 65 (at New Orleans)
Twenty-five years later, there was no talk of the Shockers and Jayhawks meeting again. KU achieved three Final Fours in that time, Wichita State one. But in 1981, KU won the Big Eight Tournament for an automatic NCAA bid, and WSU won the Missouri Valley regular season to earn an at-large bid.
Both won two games at Levitt Arena to advance to New Orleans and a showdown in the Midwest Regional semifinal at the Superdome. KU led by three with 56 seconds to play and All-America guard Darnell Valentine at the free-throw line. But he missed, then WSUâs Mike Jones hit a 25-footer to cut the lead to one (no three-point line back then).
Valentine missed a breakaway layup before WSU rebounded and called time-out. As time ran down, WSU tried unsuccessfully to get the ball inside against a packed KU zone. Instead, Jones bombed again from 25 feet and made the shot heard around Kansas. WSU won 66-65.
T-shirts were printed. Billboards went up. Wichita State had achieved some measure of standing against KU. There was talk of a series between the schools. KU coach Ted Owens said, âI wouldnât mind playing Wichita State, if our fans wouldnât take the result so seriously.â
Game 6: 1983-84, KU 79, WSU 69 (at Lawrence)
WSU athletic director Lew Perkins and KUâs Monte Johnson agreed on an unusual four-year series: One game in Lawrence, one in Wichita, one in Kansas City and possibly a fourth if both teams won or lost in a four-team tourney in Kemper Arena.
The first game, in January 1984, featured Larry Brownâs first KU team against a Xavier McDaniel-led Shocker team in Allen Fieldhouse. KU won in front of a national television audience.
Game 7, 1984-85, KU 90, WSU 83 (at Kansas City, Mo.)
Ron Kellogg made 14 of 17 shots for a career-high 30 points in Kemper Arena. McDaniel finished with 29 on a night when there was so much pushing and shoving that both coaches earned technicals complaining about the rough play.
Game 8: 1985-86, KU 81, WSU 56 (at Kansas City, Mo.)
Without McDaniel, now in a Sonics uniform, WSU had no chance against a Jayhawk team headed for the Final Four. Afterward, when asked about the series, Brown said, âItâs stupid for us not to keep playing Wichita.â
Game 9, 1986-87, WSU 54, KU 49 (at Wichita)
The Shockersâ last victory came with an Eddie Fogler game plan designed to slow the pace. Junior Danny Manning was held to four points in the second half, 12 for the game.
Game 10, 1988-89, KU 86, WSU 66 (at Lawrence)
The schools agreed to two more games, one at each school. Roy Williamsâ first team, ranked 18th, routed Wichita State to improve to 16-3.
Game 11, 1989-90, KU 93, WSU 66 (at Wichita)
The series became grossly one-sided when the second-ranked Jayhawks took apart Mike Cohenâs first team, handing WSU its worst home loss in 17 years. KU made 11 three-pointers, including Jeff Gueldnerâs six seconds into the game.
Game 12, 1990-91, KU 84, WSU 50 (at Lawrence)
A two-in-Lawrence, one-in-Wichita contract was signed. And the KU margins of victory got bigger. KU led 35-6 and WSU committed eight turnovers in the first 10 minutes, 23 for the game.
Game 13, 1991-92, KU 81, WSU 51 (at Wichita)
The 27-point home defeat of 1990 was topped two years later in Cohenâs final year as coach.
Game 14, 1992-93, KU 103, WSU 54 (at Lawrence)
By now, Williams had said that KU wouldnât continue the series without a two-for-one deal or better. WSU athletic director Gary Hunter said he wouldnât do that to coach Scott Thompson, who was trying to rebuild the program. At that point, not many Shocker fans disagreed.
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OK, Indiana. Hereâs what we need. We need for you guys to cooperate and lose Fridayâs NCAA Tournament game to Wichita State in Omaha.
Hereâs why.
For years now, many of us in Wichita have been hoping, wanting, dying to see the Shockers play Kansas. It hasnât happened during the regular season in 22 years because the Jayhawks donât like the idea of playing WSU. So while a few of us still bang the drum and hope Bill Self will have an epiphany about the good WSU-KU would do for the state, the sound of the banging doesnât carry to Lawrence.
But now the NCAA has mandated a potential Wichita State-Kansas showdown and thereâs not a darn thing KU can do about it. If the Jayhawks beat New Mexico State (a given, letâs be real) and the Shockers handle Indiana (this one is more complicated), itâll be KU-WSU on Sunday in Omaha.
And wouldnât that be something?
So you see, Indiana, itâs your responsibility to look at the greater good. You were 20-13 this season and 9-9 in the Big Ten. Youâre lucky just to be in the tournament and some of your best players will return next season. In fact, you donât have a single senior on your roster. Thereâs a good chance you could play your best ball Friday and still not have enough to beat the Shockers.
But we canât risk it.
So, what do you say you just go through the motions Thursday and give us Kansans what we want? Weâd sure be appreciative.
The Hoosiers could spoil everything in Omaha by beating the Shockers. Indiana-Kansas in the second round? OK, theyâre two of the most successful programs in the history of college basketball. But the Hoosiers have been all over the place since Tom Crean took over as coach in 2008.
There were a couple of Sweet 16s in 2011-12 and 2012-13, but in the other five seasons, Indiana is 65-94. Since starting 15-4 this season, the Hoosiers are 5-9 and their only wins have been against Big Ten bottom-feeders Rutgers (twice), Northwestern, Minnesota and Michigan.
Indiana, I ask: Do you really want to be the fly in the ointment of the first potential NCAA Tournament game between Kansas and Wichita State since 1981? We called that one âThe Battle of New Orleans,â and some Shocker fans still wear the T-shirt commemorating that game, a 66-65 Shocker win.
The last time WSU and KU met in the regular season, though â back on Jan. 6, 1993 â Kansas won 103-54 in Allen Fieldhouse. As far as I know, there are no T-shirts commemorating that game.
We need another game worthy of T-shirts, Indiana. We love T-shirts and will wear them for decades.
Kansas has a Wichita kid, Perry Ellis. Wichita State has a Wichita kid, Evan Wessel, and another, Conner Frankamp, who used to play at Kansas. Heâs sitting out now after transferring, waiting for his chance that will come in December.
KU and WSU have vibrant, interesting coaches in Bill Self and Gregg Marshall. I want to hear what they have to say about playing one another, but theyâre not tipping their hands until the game is set.
Marshall ducked the question Sunday, saying he was focused on Indiana. Of course he is, but Iâd give a penny for his thoughts on the possibility of finally playing Kansas.
Self told the media a KU-WSU showdown would appease me (heâs right), then turned his attention to New Mexico State.
Kansas and Wichita State â as well as Indiana and 12 other teams â are stuck in the Midwest Regional with undefeated Kentucky. Everybody says the Wildcats are going to win this thing and become the first team since Indiana in 1976 to finish a season without a loss.
Indiana, youâve had your fun. Youâve won five national championships, albeit none since 1987. You got to see Bob Knight toss around chairs and other assorted fun stuff for 30 years.
Weâve had our share of excitement in Kansas, too. The Jayhawks won a national championship seven years ago and have won 11 consecutive Big 12 regular-season championships.
The Shockers got to the Final Four two seasons ago, went to 35-0 before losing to Kentucky last season and are probably a spot or two underseeded in this yearâs tournament.
Kansas-Wichita State is prime-time stuff. KU is a college basketball giant, but the Shockers are growing like a beanstalk. If these two teams played, it would be difficult to pick a winner.
The Shockers have a better resume than Indiana. Theyâre a better team than Indiana. They probably donât need any help beating the Hoosiers and setting up a Sunday game for the ages, a game so many of us are dying to see.
But just in case, Indiana, do us a favor and continue to bring your âCâ game. Now wouldnât be the time to play lights out.
Reach Bob Lutz at 316-268-6597 or blutz@wichitaeagle.com. Follow him on Twitter: @boblutz.
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@jaybate-1.0 perfect!
@ajvan I live close to wichita, I heard him say chickenhawk, plus I heard from another d1 coach that other coaches do not respect him. He will be on the news all week. Coach Self has said that they have never called to schedule!! He does not want to play us. Jmo!
@oldhwkfan I w/ya! I have no idea how many times we watched reruns of BB? Genius! Better call Saul is getting more crazy each time! Love all the references.
@ajvan it would sure please me!
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Commentary: Dick Vitale kissing Ashley Judd no laughing matter
By Shannon Ryan contact the reporter Dick Vitale Kentucky Wildcats ESPN Jack Nicholson
Nothing is more jubilant for college basketball fans than the official start of March Madness.
In that spirit, we can hope, over-the-top ESPN analyst Dick Vitale went for the big laugh â with a big kiss.
Before the SEC championship game on Sunday, the Duke enthusiast certainly got the cheap chuckles he was looking for as the 75-year-old planted a kiss on the lips of an unsuspecting Ashley Judd.
The photo should make us all feel as uncomfortable as Judd looked, the long-time Kentucky fan and actress leaning back as Vitale leans in.
In the aftermath, the tone by most media was a tsk-tsk and a roll of the eyes. Oh, that Dickie V.
Kentucky athleticsâ photo staff found the moment so cheeky they tweeted the photo, calling it a âgood luck smooch.â USA Today tweeted, âOh my. Thatâs one heck of a kiss.â The Washington Post described it as Vitale getting âa little frisky.â
This isnât something we should so casually laugh off. Why do we think it's cute, let alone acceptable, when old men are physically or verbally inappropriate with women, especially younger women?
This is wildly unprofessional for a broadcaster, but weâll leave that argument alone as itâs well known that any virtues of journalistic objectivity by Vitale have long been shed for his âawesome, babyâ schtick. This is an instance of a man â because of his age, because of his stature, because of his gender - displaying ownership over a womanâs body.
Besides the fact that he appeared sober, Vitaleâs antics arenât all that different than when Joe Namath leeringly and creepily told sideline reporter Suzy Kolber in 2007 that he wanted to kiss her as she interviewed him.
Kolber had to laugh it off, much like Judd did Sunday.
Maybe it really didnât bother Judd, who had appropriately given Vitale a welcomed kiss on the cheek before the game. (To caption that photo on Instagram, Vitale wrote, âEat ur hearts out guys.â)
But maybe as an avid sports fan, Judd didnât want to come off as a poor sport. And maybe itâs just another reminder of how women â as athletes, as fans, as media â are still marginalized in sports despite significant strides in recent history.
Judd, who advocates for womenâs rights, recently tweeted some of the vulgar gender-based name calling she receives. But she has been the brunt of sports media sexism lately, too.
Earlier this month, CBSâs Doug Gottlieb bemoaned that Judd wore eyeglasses at a Kentucky game.
âSheâs wearing cheaters,â he said. âMan, when you get to the age where you have to wear cheatersâŚthat just breaks my heart.â
Because she wants to see? Oh, the horror!
Or because she cares more about her eyes taking in the game than being your eye candy? Because at age 46, she no longer fits the mold as the hot, young, super fan anymore?
Apparently so. Gottlieb, 39, then described her as âold.â
I donât recall any Lakers broadcasts when 77-year-old Jack Nicholsonâs physique was critiqued or when he was greeted with an uninvited lip lock. A female working in sports media who behaved like Vitale would be widely ridiculed and out of a job, I have no doubt.
I expected ESPN to sweep an uncomfortable and â letâs be frank â creepy moment under the rug. Instead, when Vitale was on the post-Selection Sunday show, the kiss was among the first questions he was asked about by male anchors who inferred they wished they could be so lucky.
They all snickered about Vitale landing one on Judd.
When they stop laughing, I invite them to start thinking.
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Great article. The self-serving "Dickie V" needs to be put out to pasture. He's nothing but a clown at this point, a doddering old fool.
BROHEEMS
AT 9:47 AM MARCH 16, 2015
Mercy! Thank goodness there was no social media to capture my legendary exploits! And come on Dickie V. You're a celebrity, you can do better than some 46 year old!
HACK HARELLSON
AT 9:37 AM MARCH 16, 2015
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@HawksWin probably all dunks! Should be.
@globaljaybird I think we should stop talking about WSU till fri after game!!! Feels unlucky to me!!
@brooksmd Gregg was not happy w/brackets, the sports guys said he was talking thru gritted teeth!!
@brooksmd the sportscasters just did a really nice spot on Perry and his family. His brother just won state sat, their dad was in Topeka and mom in kc. The 2 brothers and their sister have state rings. Pretty sweet!
The Wichita tv stations are going nuts about the possible KU-WSU matchup! Oh is it going to be painful listening all week to this! Enough! Nms first!!
@cragarhawk I'm glad!
@VailHawk ha ha!!
@brooksmd can you imagine him telling his wife they need to take me?? Ha ha
@cragarhawk awesome!!! Yell louder for me! Send some pics!
Coach said no need to talk about Cliff at all, distraction.
@truehawk93 was thinking if huggie gets that far, he might beat up uk pretty good. I pick big 12 a couple of games every year and they always kill me!
KU selection sun. Reporters asked Perry about playing WSU-hometown team, he handled it well, looking at first game first. He said the fans want that game. Talked about injuries, ll pretty beat up, Perry said he was getting better every day. Said injuries are all mental at this time. Self said they took today off, light tmrw, harder tues-wed before they leave. Self thought WSU and uni got bad seeds. Thought nms was a higher seed.
@RockChalkinTexas he didn't get to go to OU, but was in kc. Go figure.
@ZIG I don't think cf can travel? Do you know?
@bskeet I need a cigarette- don't smoke!
@hawkmoon2020 cal? Choke choke? Jankovitch(sp)
@HighEliteMajor I know you do! I have experienced it. You would be surprised.
@HighEliteMajor I'm very proud to wear crimson and blue glasses, and I don't care if you understand me. I don't usually respond 'cause you are always right! Waste of time. Another reason I ignore you is because I avoid negative people. They tend to zap all the joy out of life. Notice that? Last week you said you had fun watching a game, I wanted to hug you! â¤ď¸đđđ As far as the "fools gold" comment, and you won't care what I think, I believe that comment has zero to do w/our struggling long distance shooting. Zero!
@JayHawkFanToo great explanation!
@drgnslayr could you possibly be suffering from postpartum depression? Jk I'm trying not to make fun of you, I am trying to picture Hoiberg gathered around transfers telling them about old ISU memories. I can't do it!
@JayHawkFanToo I said that?
@drgnslayr that's BS!! They drove the ball w/5 healthy athletes on the floor and our d stunk! Perry tried, but couldn't produce. You really think Perry didn't want the win as much? He did everything he could w/a bum leg. ISU is a great team. Did you listen to post game?
@Lulufulu seriously can you not figure that out? I think you can!
@drgnslayr well I disagree!
@drgnslayr to bad you didn't see the 60th reunion w/the last 4 coaches. I couldn't put into words how they feel about AFH. If coach Self wasn't a true Jayhawk he'd be at osu.
@KUinLA so you prefer Stevens? Since you don't like Coach Selfs strategies maybe you should go find someone that you agree w/?
@HighEliteMajor you would feel better if KU lost so you could be right?
@KUinLA enjoy!
@Lulufulu well the sb team is doing well. KU relays r coming up in April. We could use some help!
@brooksmd sounds good! Thx!!
Brooks, Jaybate, every where I read fans are saying one more game, then we can get over this mess! Depressing to me. I still think we can win a few weekends, do u guys?
@jaybate-1.0 I so hope you are right. We were limping along out there, hopefully we will be full strength and Perry can move better! ISU almost shot themselves back out. We had some chances, but no blocking out and poor decisions. I'm happy you have hope!