@DCHawker said in Light Work Game Thread:
Garrett, Agbaji, Braun and Moss are 3-23...
Make that 4-24
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Garrett, Agbaji, Braun and Moss are 3-23...
WTF are we doing on offense...
Doke and Dave 12-16; everyone else 7-32...
@DanR said in Light Work Game Thread:
I can't remember who scored our last bucket
Dotson more than 4 minutes ago...
We have 11 points in 11-1/2 minutes this half...
Wow - offense is offensive...
Not only has Doke dominated offensively, Samuel is 0-1 from the field. He averages 11+ for them...
Don't know about others, but I'm not really comfortable yet. Just a 10 point lead....
Doke - 10-13 --- rest of team - 6-27......
Thank you, Mossy -- he made our only 2 shots from outside the paint all half...
@Woodrow said in Light Work Game Thread:
Doke padding those rebound stats!
Yeah, but missing and rebounding his own shot means his shot % goes down... ;)
TCU shooting like we are - they hit 3 of first 4, but are 3 -17 since. Without Doke, neither team might reach 20 by half...
Non Doke now 2 - 17. Glad they have gone really cold...
@Woodrow said in Light Work Game Thread:
We have zero offense without Doke. That’s scary as hell.
Yeah - everyone else is 2 - 14....
Another of Dot's 3 pt attempts that gets about halfway to the rim...
Doke 5 - 7 -- everyone else 2 - 11 -- guess we keep going to the big guy.....
@stoptheflop said in Light Work Game Thread:
Only one 3 pt attempt, Ochai. This team must work on some offense that gets a shooter open.
Need to run some plays to give Braun a clean look from deep...
5 - 16 but we have the lead - should we feel good about that???
Those are some clangy, noisy rims...
@DanR Well, that's an improvement over most of our breaks...
0 - 7 through the first 4 minutes. Good stuff....
First guy off the bench if the first one to score for us...
drgnslayr said:
I do not compare this Baylor team with any past Baylor team under Drew. This team is legit. If they stay healthy I don't expect them to implode like other Baylor teams.
All we need to do is win out in league play, including at Baylor. If we can do that we are guaranteed at least a share of the crown. There isn't a game on our schedule we can't win because our team this year can travel with defense. Anytime we bring defense we are a tough team to beat, regardless how our offense sputters.
If we focus on defense, and forcing turnovers, and then run out those turnovers, we won't lose. Give us 20 points a game off of turnovers and we will surely score enough points to win.
I agree wholeheartedly re Baylor. At this juncture, I don't think there is much question that they have the best collection of wins of any team in the country - and much better than KU.
Their best wins are Villanova, Arizona, Butler, at TTU, at KU and at FLA. That easily trumps the 'Hawks best wins - Dayton, CO, at Stanford and WVU. And, we know the results of the games against the best opponent we have in common.
While defense does travel, and I would like to think that KU can win every game here on out, including at Baylor, the fact is that KU doesn't yet have a road win in conference against a likely tournament team. KU still has to play Baylor, WVU, TCU and TTU on the road. Baylor already has road wins against KU and TTU. They clearly have a leg up on the conference crown right now.
But, you are correct - we do control our own destiny for at least a share of the title...
HighEliteMajor said:
Just spit ballin' here, but our team defense is excellent. Moss seems pretty good, not great.
We can't win a NC without Agbaji producing offensively, I'd suggest. Our chances are at least way diminished if he's in this ballpark of offensive production. His defense won't go away.
Therefore, we need to explore how to get his offense going. Many times going to the bench, losing a starting job, can inspire. Also, some players do play better off the bench.
There is really no risk in trying it. Seeing if we can grab a spark offensively from him.
I would respectfully disagree - indeed, my spit ballin' is that if we have to rely on Ochai to score more, then THAT diminishes our chance of a NC. He is not anything close to an efficient offensive player. He's not a good ball handler (might even say below average for a wing), he isn't effective driving, and he is at best streaky from 3-pt range and that's being generous. IF Braun can be a consistent 8-10 ppg scorer, then we really don't need any more than that from Ochai. Rather than having him take bad shots (which he does too often), I'd rather see him get those points off a few set plays, i.e., alley-oops and back-door cuts, kick-outs to the arc where he has time to really square up, and put-backs on offensive rebounds.
He IS a very good athlete, which he uses to good effect on the defensive end. However, he is not a particularly good rebounder - especially for someone of his size and athleticism. If we are going to go principally 4-1, then we really need Ochai (or someone) to step up on the boards - that where we have a more urgent need. Unfortunately, in the last two games in which we only had one big - and not even that for long stretches - he didn't step up (in contrast to Garrett and in the last game, Braun).
With our defense, we don't need to score 80 ppg to win - 70 will get it done most nights. If we get 32 from Doke and Dot, and 8-10 each from Garrett, Braun, Ochai, and Moss, then we're at 68-72 and anything from Dave and Enaruna is gravy.
The bottom line is that while Ochai has demonstrated he is capable of a 20 pt game, he simply isn't skilled enough to score in double figures on a consistent basis, at least not efficiently, and I would rather not have to rely on him having to get there....
14-2 run for Pokes at the end...
Kind of ugly finish - 8-0 run for the Pokes...
Enaruna is worse than a matador in the post...
DanR said:
We need to hold these jokers under 40
WVU held them to 41 - would be nice to best that...
Ochai misses as badly on the pass as he does his shot...
Ochai a sterling 1-8...
Our two leading scorers tonight so far - Braun and Moss...
No bagel for Doke... What this game shows is that he is actually more important on the defensive end. I think that he has dramatically improved...
24 minutes in and still zero points from Doke...
Braun's shoulders don't really look like they can carry a team...
FarmerJayhawk said:
Ochai’s footwork on his shot is iffy
It's not iffy - it's just bad...
truehawk93 said:
@DCHawker Can't put my finger on Ochai. The kid is a sick athlete.
He is an athlete - not really (yet) a basketball player...
truehawk93 said:
The damn media thought Ochai was turning the corner. Lets hope Braun and Moss heat up. Doke needs to work. Garrett needs to be Mr Utility. Dotson needs to lead.
I think the Tenn game was the aberration - Ochai was just bad the previous 4 games and this one resembles those...
approxinfinity said:
We basically have 4 players playing well, 3 of which are in foul trouble, and 3 other players that aren't playing well.
Which 4 played well in the first half????
BShark said:
Having to play Enaruna and a walk-on didn't help. Refs fouling us up when we have 7 scholarship players basically.
Well, having just 7 is on us not the refs...
Doke was the only one of our 7 that hasn't scored. Who'd a thunk that...
OSU has lost 3 in a row at home. Scored all of 41 points on WVU at home. And, we give up a 15-0 run to them???
Last 3-1/2 minutes.... 5 missed shots, 3 TOs, and 2 fouls
8 straight empty trips...
That 11-0 run came out of nowhere...
OSU is 4-23 and 1-10. It's difficult to miss that many shots...
OSU 3-17 and we're only up 8... make that 14...
DanR said:
DCHawker said:
DanR said:
all tristan needs to do is set screens and rebound
All? Yes, he needs to do those things...
He doesn't know the offense. I don't expect him to post up anyone, and he clearly doesn't know how to pick and roll
I was being facetious - agree that we shouldn't expect or don't want him to do much. I would like him to rebound, set picks and play a modicum of defense...
DanR said:
all tristan needs to do is set screens and rebound
All? Yes, he needs to do those things...