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Self just put some finishing touches on the bullseye..

Thanks for fighting the good fight jaybate.

I am happy to have Bill Self as our coach. I do not understand who people would want to replace him with.. Coach K and Calipari are not coming...Izzo is not coming. Do they want some unproven young guy? One loss and that guy might be lynched..

Be careful what you wish for. Here in Nebraska they canned a perennial 9 win a year football coach, because of similar sentiments about competing for titles, then had a historically bad year, were 5-7, and lost to PURDUE...Do not be so entitled. Be grateful Kansas is your team and you have an elite coach..

Coach Self may not be the best X's and O's coach, or the best recruiter, but he is good enough at both that he is in elite company..Only Coach K might beat him out factoring in both aspects...

Also, keep in mind the athletes are amateurs, I understand going after millionaire coaches, they deserve it. They are men, they are 40!! Let us lay off the kids a bit. If you ever played sports, you know sometimes you just lose. You get beat, it has nothing to do with lack of desire, or lack of preparation, or that you do not care. That is what is so appealing about sports, anything can happen..Only ONE TEAM in every sport wins the title. Should thousands of coaches be fired every year across all sports?.

When we lose, I get down, I cannot watch ESPN for days...I kind of go on a media embargo until the next game..I get it, you are passionate fans. No reason to be internet tough guys about it. IF you are going to spout ignorant nonsense, go on a media embargo yourself..

Me, I do not quite trust Selden yet, but I root for him because he is our guy..Why trample on these kids.

@benshawks08

I too, loved this lineup! Got heighth and length on guys and shot and passing lane disruption bigtime.

It reminds me a lot of 2008 as well jaybate.

I agree it really depends on who we are playing, which of our bigs get more time.

I really appreciate having two veteran, system guys, like Lucas and Traylor. Sure it would of been nice if we had one of them go beastmode come junior year like some previous project bigmen, but we do have Diallo and Bragg and Hunter as well.

We can play a lot of different ways with who we have in the front and back court.

The guys out there just now, Devonte, Svi, Vick, Diallo, and Hunter is a long long lineup...

The bigger problem with our big men is, we do not have guys who really can do the angles and lob passes into the post. Svi and Bragg are my hope to get something going in there. They need to get Brady Morningstar in to practice or something, ha.

I guess it just gets bewildering, some people complain we are not getting the top ranked recruits, others say we should do 4 year guys..

To me, Self does a nice mix of both.

We did not really find a diamond in the rough with Traylor, Lucas, or Hunter, but each has their niche. I think who plays when, depends on matchups. Hunter can protect the rim a bit. Traylor can take bigs off dribble no problem. Lucas can bang in there with the trees...

Hopefully Bragg and Diallo mean we only need the trio in reserve. They are no Jackson/Kaun but the three of them together will be assets.

I am really excited about this year. We are really deep. We have experience, and some raw freakish athleticism in our freshman..

Two fine points!

I think with Diallo now able to play and the ongoing develop of Bragg, we could see more rim protection. #FreeHunter could help too.

I agree Kansas will go back to the law of averages on 3's. I hope we can play defense like most Self teams have been able to come March, then we can stay in those games.

Vick, Bragg, and Diallo are very athletic, maybe the 3 most athletic guys we have, and are all freshman. It may take time.

Sasha Kaun could join them with rings at both levels....

For everyone hating on Traylor, you need guys like him to rotate in. No he should not be a starter, but in bursts he really is versatile and serviceable. Would we have won it in 08 without guys like Kaun?

Chalmers and Rush have NCAA and NBA titles too...

Love to see Brandon getting a chance to show what he has. He never really got going with some injuries and roster logjams in the past. He fits really well with Golden State. I agree with Jaybate, he may be the best player not starting in the NBA.

I would have liked to have seen him play for Kansas, but they recruited Wiggins, Oubre, Selden, Svi, Greene and a bunch of other wings have come through, Mclemore..

Wayne played great but he missed 4 free throws in a row to ice the game....

It kind of soured the whole performance for me. Wayne is missing something upstairs. I like him, I root for him, I hope he plays great.to reach his potential and to help the Jayhawks, but I cannot really trust him. He could go 0-20 from the field in a game and it would not be surprising..

Few days back, it was fire Bill Self, and quit watching KU basketball.

Now everyone is ok again...

It is amazing listening to broadcasters talk about stuff like the Diallo situation. They could have read a newspaper or listened to a Self press conference. Their information was so random and all over the place.

They kept talking about the core work was not approved by the NCAA, except others from the same school were cleared. They never mentioned Kansas having 2 independent curriculum experts refute the NCAA's conclusions.

They also kept talking how Self did not say much about it until very recently. Self told us he did not have to, heck Vitale was chanting Free Diallo on one of our first games. Self said this, he would not have to lobby, everyone else would...Broadcasters are so terrible.

@justanotherfan

Why does Self always get heat for hating on 3's, a lot of our end of half, or end of game plays, or when our offense is struggling, usually involves getting a good shooter open for a 3...

One positive you do not see a lot talked about, is guys we put in the league.

If you get the number 1, 3 and 4, ranked players in a class, you pretty much have 3 lottery picks the moment they commit..

We have got a lot of 4ish star commits or transfers or glue guys or rotation players a shot in the league. Some left earlier than expected too, leaving a void at times.

Self developed a few players too well, which left him scrambling to fill spots at times to compliment the one and dones..

I think it will be a great year.

Ellis looks so quick. I think he can get experience at the 3 while Greene is suspended..

I did not forget Mason is a warrior.

I think come March, Bragg and Vick will be ready. I like what Hunter does out there. Traylor is good in bursts.

If Svi and Devonte come along and Selden can be more Jekyll than Hyde, our guards look good.

If Diallo can play......

Bring it on!

If you played young guys this year it would be the ones with the highest ceilings and have the most talent other than Mason and Ellis.

If Diallo could play, then the other 3 guys with the most talent are Bragg, Svi (who just turned 18 ..) and Vick.

I love Bill Self but coaches do move on, take breaks, things happen. I think Self is one of the cleaner ones around. Would love to see him at Duke or one of the big schools. Maybe take over USA basketball after Pop. For all his pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses, I think he is a good ambassador of the game.

I also do not take him for granted. Other people's down years they do not make the tournament even. Our down years we usually lose in the second round...

To me it just seems like we had a few guys in the last few recruiting classes who did not quite develop like expected, and had a lot leave early..Which left a bit of a void.

Embiid for example, was not even ranked in top 100 at first, the more people saw him play, the higher he rose. His "stock" rose like a rocket...Most thought we would have him a few years, Cole left his Junior year. The Twins..Some guards like Ben..

Then, some positives, we put some bigs in the league like Withey and Tarik Black, comeon..That is pretty cool.

The sky is not necessarily falling, just a couple years back did we not have 2 of the top 3 picks in the NBA draft?

What if we can soon run a lineup of Mason, Svi, Ellis, Bragg, Diallo and wave 2 of Devonte, Vick, Selden, Traylor, Hunter. I can dream.

Kansas loses to Michigan State in its second game and everyone is going crazy,

So what happens if we do not even make the NCAA tournament, then lose in the first round to ROBERT MORRIS. (Calipari did this RECENTLY)

Some might literally jump off bridges...

@SoftballDad2011

It seems like everyone forgets Self just had Wiggins and Embiid, a top recruit will come to Kansas again.....

i do not know if I would start Selden even. During the game they did a quick sideline interview with Izzo when they were down early, and he said something about Selden making 3's and being streaky...He would take Selden shooting for us all day every day.

I am not really going into the sky is falling mode, Izzo may be the best, but I think Self is an elite head coach as well.

Mason, Svi, Greene, Ellis, and Hunter would probably be who I started awhile, ha.

Then you got Devonte, Selden off the bench and Bragg and Traylor as main subs. You could put Ellis at three sometimes and have Hunter and Bragg out there together sometimes. That would be at least more fun to watch than missing bunnies all day.

@ralster Ya, with the ankle, someone mentioned it could be a message to Greene and Svi to up their defensive game or their spots will be replaced by an extra big. I just hope Selden can take the next step, I like the guy. It just hard to trust him out there still for long periods, he could go 0-15 from the field..

I lived in Missouri and if you are black and you are any further south than St. Louis County you are not really welcome. It is surprising women can vote in Missouri or black people can even share drinking fountains. It is crazy, why do you think Ferguson happened, then this?

Missouri is a police state, there are prisons and jails all over the place. Never go to St. Francois County, it is like the movie U-Turn and they cannot even say the name of their county right. You put people with really narrow small bigoted brains in a police state with a bunch of stuff with french names and silent letters, it really makes em hate black people.

There is rampant racism and systematic persecution of minorities all throughout the Missouri Criminal Justice system, it is segragation all over, except they segregate you to a cell.. Prisons are big business now, like oil soon I bet!

Listening to some media sessions with Bill Self, he talks about playing Perry at the 3 some. We know he wants Devonte and Frank out there together at times. He talked about our bigs all getting 12-16 minutes a game unless one really separates themselves and being totally interchangeable at the 4 and 5 spots mostly. He also talked about our wing defense and said it was terrible in the exhibition (Selden?) He never said the name Wayne or mention him at all by name in a whole segment of one talk.

Where does that leave Selden?

I watched the World University games and Selden played great, but he really did not shoot a whole lot better overall percentage wise then he ever has..

Is he in the doghouse? Does Coach Self not trust him anymore? Is he dead to Coach?

To me Selden reminds me of Elijah Johnson, just could not turn that corner in their development for some reason.

He has been playing a few years now and Self talks about not having enough ball handlers out there, now terrible wing defense. So Selden is not a ball handler, not playing defense. Streaky shooter..

All this is ignoring Diallo exists..

Devonte, Frank, Perry, Bragg/Traylor, Hunter/Lucas?

Yes please. Go big Self! (Frank to my eyes is really big)

Traylor and Bragg are very athletic, Hunter would do fine especially at the 5.

Self also said Perry is one of the quicker guys on the team so him at the 3 is not a stretch.

Subs for 1, 2, and 3 spots would not really matter if you kept Devonte or Frank out there with them.

This should not be a team that will fold or get scared.

I am rooting for Selden! If he does turn the corner and the light comes on more for Svi and Diallo can play, it should be a deep deep run in the tourney!!