Longwood up 20 on Winthrop with 7 minutes left so looks like the Lancers will win the Big South
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@approxinfinity said in Horns Down Game Thread:
Tired of players crashing into other players and it not being called, like i believe bishop or askew did to ochai second to last possession. Just because it didnt yield a turnover or a flop by ochai doesnt mean it isnt a foul. I would be curious if others feel these body blows away from basket should be called fouls or not.
It's the James Harden effect and Christian Braun and Jalen Wilson both have a real bad habit of doing the same thing.
Murray State wins the Ohio Valley title game by 4 and bubble teams everywhere rejoiced the bubble didn't shrink by 1 tonight.
@jayballer67 said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
so does Wilson return ? - - - Does Braun return - - -Does Cave return ? - - - gonna be interesting
Wilson and Braun will almost certainly be back. Wilson isn't on any mocks and IDK why Bleacher Report has Braun as a top 20 pick he's not an NBA caliber player to me. Dave is the interesting one because there's a possibility he does come back next year and that makes the rotation situation very interesting in the front court and almost guarantees a return to a two big line up.
Can we agree stat of the game has to be Dejuan Harris with 4 blocks in the game today?
@jayballer67 said in KU Women's Hoops:
Great win also for the Lady Jayhawks today - - 73 -- 67 -over # - -19 Oklahoma in Norman - -the Ladies finished 20-8 -for the regular season and are the # 4 seed in the Big 1 Ladies tourney playing Friday. - -- -Great job Ladies - -well done
KU is the 5 seed and play OU again in the quartfinals.
Tonight, the first automatic bid gets handed out in the Ohio Valley between Murray St. and Morehead St. All bubble teams will be cheering hard for the Racers as Murray St. is an at-large team if they should lose tonight.
Tomorrow, the Big South and Missouri Valley will hand out their automatic bids. The Big South game will be Winthrop vs. Longwood and the Missouri Valley title game will feature Loyola-Chicago vs. Drake.
The first automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament will be handed out tonight in the Ohio Valley. Tomorrow, the Big South and Missouri Valley will hand out their automatic bids. Below, I will keep track of all the automatic bids over the next week.
A10- Richmond Spiders
Atlantic Sun- Jacksonville St. Gamecocks
ACC- Virginia Tech Hokies
America East- Vermont Catamounts
American- Houston Cougars
Big 10- Iowa Hawkeyes
Big 12- Kansas Jayhawks
Big East- Villanova Wildcats
Big Sky- Montana State Bobcats
Big South- Longwood Lancers
Big West- CSU-Fullerton Titans
C-USA- UAB Blazers
Colonial- Delaware Blue Hens
Horizon- Wright St. Raiders
Ivy League- Yale Bulldogs
MAAC- St. Peter's Peacocks
MAC- Akron Zips
MEAC- Norfolk State Spartans
Missouri Valley- Loyola-Chicago Ramblers
Mountain West- Boise State Broncos
Northeast- Bryant Bulldogs
Ohio Valley- Murray State Racers
Pac 12- Arizona Wildcats
Patriot League- Colgate Raiders
SEC- Tennessee Volunteers
SWAC- Texas Southern Tigers
Southern- UT-Chattanooga Mocs
Southland- Texas A&M-Corpus Christi Islanders
Summit League- South Dakota St. Jackrabbits
Sun Belt- Georgia St. Panthers
WAC- New Mexico State Aggies
West Coast- Gonzaga Bulldogs
Oklahoma State is not eligible for postseason play this season so they're season is over.
The seeds are:
1- Kansas
2- Baylor
3- Texas Tech
4- Texas
5- TCU
6- Iowa State
7- Oklahoma
8- Kansas State
9- West Virginia
Wednesday: WVU vs. KSU
Thursday: TCU vs. Texas (11:30am), WVU/KSU vs. KU (2pm), OU vs. Baylor (6pm), ISU vs. Tech (8:30pm)
All times Central
94-81 UNC over Duke in Coach K's final home game.
WTH are you fouling down 11 with 13 seconds left!?!?
UNC is going to ruin Coach K's final game at Cameron!!
UNC up 6 with 1:47 left.
At least KU is going to be the 1 seed in KC next week. I don't expect KU to win the tournament as I suspect Self will be more focused on resting players and KU probably ends up losing their semifinal game.
ISU just got screwed big time
That was a damn foul!!!
Baylor has been atrocious from the FT line today at 9-18.
UNC retook the lead against Duke with less than 8 minutes left.
Baylor up 1 with abiut 3:30 left at the under 4 timeout.
Baylor-ISU now tied
So Baylor's once 19 point lead against ISU is down to 2 with 9 minutes left.
@tundrahok I'd assume it'll be Remy so KU has a PG on the floor to start the game amd probably get JCL in for Teahan ASAP.
@Kcmatt7 said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
I also think a lineup of:
- Harris
- Braun
- Wilson
- Kj
- Zach
Is being discounted a bit. I can definitely see us going back to two bigs with the guys we have next season.
KJ Adams isn't starting for KU next season and Jalen Wilson won't spend a meaningful second at the 3 next year. Jalen can't defend the 4 very well and would be an even bigger disaster on that end at the 3. KJ can't rebound worth a damn. I'm not talking him being below average, Adams is straight up trash at rebounding. He has 9 defensive rebounds all season in 150 minutes. Even Bobby Pettiford has more defensive rebounds than Adams this season despite playing 40 fewer minutes amd being a PG instead of a 5.
@jayballer67 said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@Oldmanhawk said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@FarmerJayhawk With or without Dave, I believe our biggest need is a true rim protector. I think Dave is gone so yes, a proven defensive presence is what I would like to see
Already addressed in recruiting. Ernest Udeh is going to be a very strong defensive presence for KU. Not much offensively yet, but probably the highest ceiling on defense for a 5 that KU has had since Jeff Withey. Zach Clemence has also shown the mentality to be a good defender and we should see a big leap from him on that end next season after he spends an off-season adding muscle to his frame. While KJ Adams might not be a shot blocker or good rebounder, he's shown to be an above average defender already. KU should be in a really good place defensively at the 5 spot for the next several seasons.
What KU is missing is a 6-3/6-4 combo guard. Right now, the likely options at the 2 spot next season are 6-7 Christian Braun who struggles to stay in front of smaller, quicker guards, and 6-0 Joseph Yesufu who struggles to hold his ground against bigger, stronger guards. Behind them will probably be 6-2 Kyle Cuffe, but I doubt he sees much court time next season.
KU is set at every other position. Harris and Pettiford probably going to be the two guys running the show. Braun will probably also spend a fair bit of time at the spot where KU will also have incoming freshmen MJ Rice and Gradey Dick as options. Both Dick and Rice are potential OAD caliber players as each show up as first round picks in various 2023 mock drafts. Wilson has the 4 spot locked down if he's back and Self will have Adams and another incoming freshman in Zuby Ejiofor as options. I think Gradey Dick or MJ Rice get most of the back up minutes at the 4 spot behind Wilson.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@Oldmanhawk said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@FarmerJayhawk With or without Dave, I believe our biggest need is a true rim protector. I think Dave is gone so yes, a proven defensive presence is what I would like to see
Already addressed in recruiting. Ernest Udeh is going to be a very strong defensive presence for KU. Not much offensively yet, but probably the highest ceiling on defense for a 5 that KU has had since Jeff Withey. Zach Clemence has also shown the mentality to be a good defender and we should see a big leap from him on that end next season after he spends an off-season adding muscle to his frame. While KJ Adams might not be a shot blocker or good rebounder, he's shown to be an above average defender already. KU should be in a really good place defensively at the 5 spot for the next several seasons.
What KU is missing is a 6-3/6-4 combo guard. Right now, the likely options at the 2 spot next season are 6-7 Christian Braun who struggles to stay in front of smaller, quicker guards, and 6-0 Joseph Yesufu who struggles to hold his ground against bigger, stronger guards. Behind them will probably be 6-2 Kyle Cuffe, but I doubt he sees much court time next season.
KU is set at every other position. Harris and Pettiford probably going to be the two guys running the show. Braun will probably also spend a fair bit of time at the spot where KU will also have incoming freshmen MJ Rice and Gradey Dick as options. Both Dick and Rice are potential OAD caliber players as each show up as first round picks in various 2023 mock drafts. Wilson has the 4 spot locked down if he's back and Self will have Adams and another incoming freshman in Zuby Ejiofor as options. I think Gradey Dick or MJ Rice get most of the back up minutes at the 4 spot behind Wilson.
I think you have better chance /odds of Rice not ever suiting up for a single KU game - then CJ coming back. I think BOTH scenario's are pretty good that ONE CB enters the draft ( especially if the number 19 projection is a rational ) -I feel pretty confident CB will stay in the draft and rice is Rice - -still don't think he shows for good. - Both will not be here. - # 19 is about CB's ceiling in the draft if he can actually reach that come time- he not going much higher -so he will tke that and run
Bleacher Report is the only place that has Braun as 1st round pick. Most reputable draft projection sites don't even have Braun as a 2022 draft pick, but a 2023 pick. Serious question, what is Christian Braun actually good enough at right now that translates to the NBA? Braun is still too passive in looking for his shot, he's not quick enough to own by people, he's not a great shooter, he's an average at best college defender and really struggles against top athletes on defense.
Also, MJ Rice's stock has a dropped a little bit since last summer to the point of where there's a lot less chatter of him skipping college at this point. Committing to a school in November also is unusual timing for someone planning on skipping college.
@Oldmanhawk said in Hypothetical: 5th Year Dave, What's the Fit?:
@FarmerJayhawk With or without Dave, I believe our biggest need is a true rim protector. I think Dave is gone so yes, a proven defensive presence is what I would like to see
Already addressed in recruiting. Ernest Udeh is going to be a very strong defensive presence for KU. Not much offensively yet, but probably the highest ceiling on defense for a 5 that KU has had since Jeff Withey. Zach Clemence has also shown the mentality to be a good defender and we should see a big leap from him on that end next season after he spends an off-season adding muscle to his frame. While KJ Adams might not be a shot blocker or good rebounder, he's shown to be an above average defender already. KU should be in a really good place defensively at the 5 spot for the next several seasons.
What KU is missing is a 6-3/6-4 combo guard. Right now, the likely options at the 2 spot next season are 6-7 Christian Braun who struggles to stay in front of smaller, quicker guards, and 6-0 Joseph Yesufu who struggles to hold his ground against bigger, stronger guards. Behind them will probably be 6-2 Kyle Cuffe, but I doubt he sees much court time next season.
KU is set at every other position. Harris and Pettiford probably going to be the two guys running the show. Braun will probably also spend a fair bit of time at the spot where KU will also have incoming freshmen MJ Rice and Gradey Dick as options. Both Dick and Rice are potential OAD caliber players as each show up as first round picks in various 2023 mock drafts. Wilson has the 4 spot locked down if he's back and Self will have Adams and another incoming freshman in Zuby Ejiofor as options. I think Gradey Dick or MJ Rice get most of the back up minutes at the 4 spot behind Wilson.
I don't see a scenario where Cam Martin is a Jayhawk next season. His redshirt makes no sense unless the plan is for him to preserve his last year of eligibility and grad transfer to a mid or low major school where he could play real minutes. If he wasn't good enough to play with this group, he certainly won't be athletic enough to run with next season's group.
A 2 is the biggest need remaining and Cam's scholarship is where that player probably comes from. Even then, I don't know how much of a need it really is, or at least how much playing time would actually be available with the freshmen class KU has coming in and with who should be returning. That's also assuming Braun returns next season, if not, another 2 becomes a big time priority to find.
I also don't see Yesufu starting next season. Assuming Braun and Wilson are back, I think the starting 5 would be Harris, Braun, Rice/Dick, Wilson, and Clemence with Pettiford, Yesufu, Rice/Dick, and Udeh playing most of the bench minutes.
I also think it's important to not rule out KU only having 12 scholarship players available based on how the NC State case turned out and the similarities with their case and ours.
@jayballer67 said in Revenge Game Thread:
Coach saying KU wasn't going to foul on a 3 pt attempt -said they talked during the time out and left it up to the players and they said they wanted to play it out
Self has always preferred to play defense instead of fouling. I believe the analytics actually support that decision by a small margin if I remember a breakdown of that situation from a few years back.
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Revenge Game Thread:
Dave you gotta go up stronger
My Kingdom for a whitey- - My kingdom for a LaFrentz --
Ernest is gonna be fun.
Probably be a couple of years first. He is very raw offensively.
Yeah he doesn't really have much of a skill set on offense. Just screen, be big and defend etc and he can at least contribute next year.
He probably plays behind Clemence next year.
I think they both end up being around 15+ minute guys but I do think Zach starts. I'm not sure we will have a big that stands out much more than the others for overall play so keeping them fresh would make sense. Not sure what Self will do of course.
It think it'll probably be closer to 25/15 between Clemence/Udeh
@nwhawkfan said in Revenge Game Thread:
Bill better tell em to foul quick
Too much time to foul quick.
WTF was that lay up attempt?
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Revenge Game Thread:
Dave you gotta go up stronger
My Kingdom for a whitey- - My kingdom for a LaFrentz --
Ernest is gonna be fun.
Probably be a couple of years first. He is very raw offensively.
Yeah he doesn't really have much of a skill set on offense. Just screen, be big and defend etc and he can at least contribute next year.
He probably plays behind Clemence next year.
If that's what KJ is going to do, sit him because he can't do anything else.
@BShark said in Revenge Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Revenge Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Revenge Game Thread:
Dave you gotta go up stronger
My Kingdom for a whitey- - My kingdom for a LaFrentz --
Ernest is gonna be fun.
Probably be a couple of years first. He is very raw offensively.
Dave is hobbling a bit now.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Revenge Game Thread:
Even though they said concussion, he wouldn't be playing! They said he was woozy, probably from getting stitches.
Being in concussion protocol doesn't necessarily mean someone has a concussion. Just being examined for one and if Clemence was woozy on the way back to Lawrence, he was probably showing signs in the locker room.
@tundrahok said in Revenge Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 He went straight to the locker room
I know he went back for stitches, but I don't remember seeing come back to the bench at all Tuesday.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Revenge Game Thread:
That’s the problem with Zach. Can’t hold position yet
How many really can against Lamkin though? Dude is huge
Sounds like Clemence was in concussion protocol after that elbow on Tuesday which is why he never came back. I don't even remember seeing him on the bench after the elbow either.
KU is in the midst if playing 4 games in 8 days and could potentially play up to 7 games in 15 days. This team is also dealing with injuries with Dave being the most important injury right now. These players are also not used to playing that many games in that short of a time frame because that's an NBA type schedule. It's also possible all 7 of those games come against NCAA tournament teams as well. That's a brutal stretch and load management is important when dealing with a team that's less than 100%
@kuballin10 said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 about time you got something right
Goodnight Toucan
@kuballin10 said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 let me know when it’s not applicable
If you say so Toucan since you're the greatest basketball mind walking the earth.
KU shot like shit tonight period.
@kuballin10 said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 won’t know the system or defend properly so he won’t get but 5 minutes a game
You sound like parrot, get some new material. All of your posts are 1 of 3 things, find something different to bitch because that's all you do. Dejuan sucks, Self screwed the team up, round of 32 exit, that's all you ever say.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
Wish we would have played them in January instead
This isn't the postponed game, that's Thursday nights game.
Yesufu is down
@tis4tim said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
So we tied for lead in conference now with 2 left barring any miracles?
1/2 game down now technically. Equal losses now, but Baylor has one more win.
Miles extended the forearm a bit there, should've been an offensive foul.
About damn time
@Kcmatt7 said in Control our Destiny Game Thread:
Starters in. Watch us close the gap.
Our starters are shooting 13-42 tonight so far.