Did someone not tell him about the streak? i'm positive if he knew about the streak, he wouldn't commit elsewhere.
elpoyo
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@approxinfinity said:
Embiid's ceiling is much greater than Conner's; as @dylans expressed best, Embiid has the potential to be a national treasure. Embiid's work ethic is greater, his contributions to the team were greater, his sense of humor was greater, among other things.
Of course, we're fans and the personal story makes us root for the guy who played behind Dakari Johnson in high school, but exploded onto the national stage for us after playing only 3 years of basketball and was breathtaking before injury. I like that guy over the guy who struggled at Kansas on and off the court and transferred to Wichita State because he thought that's a better opportunity for him. Not that I hate on Conner for that, it's just not a compelling story at all.
There's no double standard that I see here. Conner just wasn't as likeable a Jayhawk as Embiid.
National treasure? LMAO... i know he's a KU favorite, but lets not blow $hit out of proportion.
you mention injury's for Embiid...Conner was injured too, but because he isn't so high profile, KUsports didn't dedicate posts and posts about it.
and its ok for Embiid to leave KU for a better opportunity in the NBA vs Conner seeking a better opportunity else where?
Conner was a much better athlete/player...he was severely mis managed; One of the biggest knock on Self used to be he one-dimensionalizes players. I used to not believe it at all, but not so sure know. Conner showed a glimpse of what he's capable of at the end of the Stanford game. Bill Self knew he messed up with Conner because he didn't place any restrictions on where conner could go..he said himself.
Conner not as likeable as a jayhawk? why because he didn't make tons of stupid twitter posts and constantly act like a child? did you even know conner personally or ever met him or his parents? I have and can guarantee they are much nicer people than where you come from.
Its funny how like the Beiber fans (beliebers) and Beyonce fans ( BeyHive), the Selfers continue to blindly promote and support Self without ever actually realizing what they are doing or what they stand for.
hey, keep it at i guess.
@approxinfinity said:
So... people shouldn't feel bad for Embiid because he can afford to not fulfill his potential and still get laid? Because in the end that's all that matters? Come on dude. Let's get off the basement floor.
hey...i don't recall anyone feeling bad for conner coz he couldn't fulfill his potential and he was on the KU team much longer than Embiid, but in his case, it was- don't let the door hit you on your way out. Just funny how the double standard here works.
@JayHawkFanToo said:
I hope things start getting better for Joel...he has been through a lot.
i can only imagine..going to bed with a lot of hot women on a big pile of money..must be rough.
@nuleafjhawk said:
@dylans B & V are big fish in a little pond. If they were Jayhawks, they'd be pine riders. See Frankamp.....
if they were jayhawks, they'd never get past the 2nd round.
@jaybate-1.0 said:
He has accrued a .744 W&L statement, which when combined with mediocre conference records in a mid major conference, implies pre-conference opponents stacked with not just cupcakes, but outright Bon-bons.
Don't think any one in the BIG12 should be pointing fingers at them about playing cupcakes and outright bon-bons..especially after how the BIG12 got exposed last year and time and again, showed how overrated the conference is.
Pass! as much as this kid is a great guy and hard worker, he's never going to sniff the court. its almost as if self brings on white kids to help balance the diversity of the team roster.
to be able to win with OAD's, you can't be stubborn. you have to be able to go with the flow and model your team/plan to the strengths of your OADs.
Self, IMHO, is not going to be successful with OADs (as UK or Duke have been) because he is just too damn stubborn. we have seen it over and over again. he's just not willing to change or try certain things until its too late. Classic example is the game against MI when BMac should have been in the 2nd half- instead he was on the bench and Self went with his EJ- probably one of his worst coaching decisions to date. We had no business losing that game. still hurts!
@JayHawkFanToo said:
I am with @Crimsonorblue22 on this one. At Cleveland, Wiggins would not have had as much playing time as he had last season with the Wolves and he would have not developed nearly as much as he did.
True, but take love out, and put wiggins in...with Kyrie's injury, Wiggins playing time would have increased dramatically in the playoffs..and the experience he would have gotten...playoffs and the finals- you can't recreate that and even with Kyrie out and wiggins in, Cavs chances of winning it all become very very doable. IMO they would have won the playoffs with that setup
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
but they didn’t, and meanwhile Wigs keeps getting stronger!
wig would be getting stronger no matter what. Not sure what your point is here.
this comment reminds me of a typical MU trash fan...KU didn't win the Natl championship, meanwhile, MU keeps on getting stronger.
Cleveland/Lebron's ultimate goal was to win a championship and take away the freak injury to love, i'm pretty sure they would have won it all. So, the trade was the right move esp since no one knew what they were getting with Wiggins.
i personally wouldn't have done it and kept Wiggins- but for whatever reason- either Wiggin's not so stellar performance while @ KU or maybe Chalmer's really turned him off on KU...Lebron wanted to go the other direction.
I wouldn't have done it, but can't blame cleveland- they wanted to win and did what they thought was the right thing @ that point in time.
if they did win a championship, everyone on this board would be much quieter or singing a different tune.
@drgnslayr said:
s the NCAA going to give KU the Death Penalty for letting a g
What's the point? even if he does come back, we win more big 12 titles? hooray...we can accomplish that without him just fine. unfortunately, he's no longer a reliable resource given his health. for him to come back and have to sit out the ncaa tourneys..really, what's the benefit.
he'll just be taking time away from other players who need the opportunity/experience.
did the game actually happen? Seriously, there is pretty much 0 coverage for these games. The only place to find any info is on the KU sites. National media has pretty much ignored it completely.
My nephew plays on the AAU circuit in Texas and he hasn't even heard of the WUG.
The only coverage i'm seeing bball related is NBA and U19 USAB games.
Even more reason why Self needs to get past 2nd week in the tourney and get to a FF/championship. else this whole exercise of playing WUGs is moot.
If it works in the NBA why can’t it work in college? Play small, play fast, win championships!
Its coaching and trusting your guards...other teams have tried it, but kerr's using his players to their advantage. Self needs to pull a page from Kerr's book and instead of trying to force players to play they way he thinks they should play, hone their abilities. We all know self get stubborn and falls in love with a player and will play him even after multiple bonehead plays.
with our line up + depth + experience, anything less than a FF is major disappointment and puts self on the hot seat.
@HighEliteMajor said:
some twitter link about his NCAA bracket where he picked Kansas?
Some twitter link was a link to his twitter account where he picked kansas to win it all (no problems there), but singled out UK by picking Manhattan to beat UK and even circled Manhattan. Seriously, he fills 1/4th of his bracket and then picked UK to lose in the first round to Manhattan and you think that doesn't mean anything? Clearly something was off and its obvious he was peeved at UK and even posters on KU boards said he was big on UK, but they cooled off him and he apparently didn't like that.
I know its all sunshine over here , but just pointing out what i see. This is afterall a message board where people can put in their opinions...right?
@HighEliteMajor said:
@elpoyo Bragg's finalists were Kansas and UK. There were zero reports that UK didn't give him attention. Diallo was not a "lock" for ISU. ISU was never the favorite. Kansas was pretty much the leader starting last December. And as additional info, Graham was not a transfer.
Either he has an obsession with UK or he's just trying to go out of his way to diss them
@drgnslayr said:
"...in the end we landed the kids that wanted to come to KU."
umm..i'm not so sure about that. Bragg's first choice was UK and once he didn't get any attention from Cal, he chose his 2nd option.
Diallo was a lock for ISU till the mayor told him he wasn't going to be back (that coupled with Abdelmassih leaving pretty much sealed the deal with KU).
to add to these, look at all the other transfers (hunter, graham, coleby...).
The kids are here and they will be playing for KU, so all the above is moot. but lets call it like it is.
@REHawk said:
He is currently spoken of as very possibly the future Jordan or James. Rare air.
WTF? What are you on? Future Jordan or James? i'm so shocked i literally have no words
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