mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 The other guy was in front of our player and Carter was trailing. I thought it was a bad call in real time until they changed the call to the other guy, and I thought at the time that replay confirmed it was not Carter. I will look at the original view in slo-mo, tonite, though.
your right - -it was the correct call - I don't blame carter for going to the 2nd official for THAT call - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Gunman said:
In the second half Vick got called for a foul comitted by two WVU players on the guy Vick was chasing. Evidently the ref couldn't decide which WVU player to call it on and made the politically correct decision to call it on Vick. LaGerald looked away smiling.
Classic!
They also took away a foul in the first half from Jevon Carter and gave it to someone not in the play. Then when Carter picked up a 2nd half foul that should have been his 3rd it was only his 2nd.
Actually believe it or not - -they DID get that call wrong until he went and asked the 2nd official Carter wears nu 2 I believe they called 2 when indeed it was # 3 or visa versa- I can't blame him on that one. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Gunman said:
@mayjay Do we win this game without Silvio?
Yes. - - he helped for sure - but we still win. - he played 7 minutes, two points - -two rebounds - -and drew two fouls on WV -he is going to be a stud - -but think the way things turned out - -we still win with or without De Sousa last night. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I usually am less angry about officiating the next day, but the technical foul on Doke was still bs. Let the kid play.
I wonder what Fran thinks of it. :thought_balloon:
lol - well let me refresh: - - as Fran would say: - - Well -- -you know - - when you play KU - -you have to play 5 against 8 -- hmmmm, wonder how that worked tonight? - -Oh ya forgot - doesn't matter - refs still favor KU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Hawks whipped their nuts out loud and proud to swing for all to see tonight! Those were some of the biggest cajones I've seen in a very long time from a KU team.
This is one of the most impressive wins by any team in the country this year.
HUGE - - - -MONSTER HUGE. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
TOs and short bench didn't kill us this time!
Big thing post game announcers said that was a big difference: for KU. - - -1st half , - - points for KU off WV turnovers -- -4. - - -2nd half- - points for KU off WV turnovers- - -17. - -huge difference. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Found this kind of funny. - Was checking the WVU board and they were talking about how they think WV just got wore out - - how they were tired. - - -WHAT? ? ? ? - -holy bat crap , I mean JUMPIN -- GEE - -HOSSIE - -TOADS - wore out? - -hell they go TEN deep, we are the team that is short handed small depth. - They got wore out tired? - -just think that's kind of odd/weird. - They don't think Ku wasn't tired? - -If you want to go that route then it all comes down to - -all about want to. - -
Coach Huggins said as much himself - -They ( KU ) just wanted it more. - -That's a big part of why BIG 12 teams are looking at a 13 straight time conference champion, statement made. - -The Championship STILL runs through Lawrence Kansas - - -ALWAYS HAS - - -ALWAYS WILL - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bosthawk said:
And on the road, we only got outrebounded by 3!
And got to the line as well. They fouled us more that we fouled them... we played aggressive and didn’t solely rely on 3’sAll good signs mon freres
Ya WV fouled more and of course - - people still saying the refs favor Ku - and hell it's not even at our house - -were on the road - -just goes to show - - - - -Winners just Win - - -& losers make excuses. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
StLJhawk said:
Wow that was fun! I don't think Vic liked not starting! Dok looks better every game. And DeSousa is gonna be good. This could get interesting...
You can just see Doke maturing progressing. - last year even if he hadn't been hurt he would of fouled out in the first 12 minutes of the game. - -This is one area he is getting better at being able to stay on the floor , rebounding getting better -- just his presence makes a huge difference. - - I was so glad to see him with that edge some attitude the stare after the monster flush - the T was total BS. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bosthawk said:
Is it me, or did we see a semblance of a real “team” tonite? They might have just gotten an identity ..
they looked to me like a band of brothers fighting hard and playing scrappy tough D and sticking together. Let’s hope it’s a big step forward!!(Awaiting a pithy lengthy tome on this subject from Sir Jay of Bate...)
One thing that really stuck out to me - one on several but really stuck out? - -Hustle - - SVI diving on the floor for a loose ball - - Doke - -our seven foot 265 lb big boy - -diving on the floor for a loose ball - - that my friend is -- want to - dedication. sacrifice - - -great win - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Now I can go back and RE-WATCH the game in the morning on Espnu - and not be are worries - -just knowing the end result. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY -- IT'S ON AT 6:00 A.M if interested
KU outscored West Virginia 43-25 --in the 2nd half - -4 turnovers in the 2nd half - - - -closed out the game by shooting 8-10 - -80 % in the final critical minutes of the game. - - -more steals then WV - -95 -- -WV more turnovers then KU 16- 13 - -gutsy gutsy win - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
WOW just huge win - - HUGE - -HUGE - -HUGE. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ok question , how many times do we ( KU ) - turn the ball over tonight? - -I say 17. - - - I think Malik turns it over the most - - -5
How many fouls will there by WV ? - I say 19 - -I think Doke gets in early foul trouble - -hope not - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Everyone is keeping tabs on him. Everyone.
I Thought I had heard his name as someone we was keeping up with. The UK fans seem to be talking like there is some extra baggage that he brings with him - - - Three different schools in three years, and some other things going on - will be interesting to see what happens. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Not sure if we are recruiting this kid or not, kid still young - -only a freshman they say - - some questioning asking he is 16 yrs old that is old for a freshman they say - -out of Kentucky - so you automatically think Kentucky lock but his stats are just crazy.
His name is Zion Harmon - -seems like that name rings a bell for some reason anyways his season stats are off the charts:
Averaging 34 ppg per game - - - 8 assists per game - 55.1 % fg per game - - -90.5 % from the free thow line - - -3.4 steals per game -- & 38.1 % from the 3 point line -crazy all around - -5'11 pg - -don't know why but man his name sounds familer ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
@Jayballer54 One thing that Doke has learned to do better here recently is get deeper post position and an early seal. Which are two big things because he is shooting so well from close range and the deep he is the harder to double team because you have to recover further to the shooter then. Early seals help when the ball is reversed to the 2nd and 3rd side for an easy dunk.
very true, however he might be getting those easy dunks as we are probably about to see the old hack a doke -as soon as Doke catches the ball before he can go up they will foul -and make him earn them from the line. - - HOWEVER I do believe he is getting at least a tinsy bit better - -just hope we can play a solid game and let the chips fall where they may tonight.
Was listening to a local sorts show here in Topeka this afternoon - -and agree maybe that actually - -KU playing with house money tonight , not hardly anyone thinking they will come out of there tonight with a win , so may be able to go in and be able to play a little looser.
We lose , no one was expecting us to win anyways - -If we happen to steal one - - that would be big - -we shall see - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I'm afraid this could be a really ugly game for Doke, as long as it takes for him to carry throw with his move at times -- or when he wants to put the ball down on the floor at times - -he puts it on the floor in the lane tonight? - - - plain and simple he is getting stripped every time - -if Jevon Carter is ANYWHERE in the neighborhood - -done deal Doke will be stripped - -this could very easily be a case where we are going to have to have De Sousa on the floor more, very high chance Doke going to get himself in foul trouble - -sorry to say WV just quicker athletes in and around him. - Doke making good progress BUT -this very well might be one of those games - -quickness.
Doke has improves substantial with NOT fouling - still can always hope for good results. - My personal gut feeling tonight sad to say - - this year I just think it could get ugly like 13-14 point win for WV. If not, and we win - - I'll be more then happy to take my thrashing lol. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jaybate 1.0 said:
Everyone needs to chill on this WVU-Tech stuff and focus on our game tonight.
You can be sure WVU is.
Our players are going way deep in Appalachia tonight.
Best tend to our own knitting till tomorrow.
Ahhh my wife loves knitting - -I'll see if she can destract me from this with her knitting lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
truehawk93 said:
Reprimand? Slap on the wrist? Sportsmanship conduct of WVU? Well we all know that he was reacting to what he is taught on the court by Huggy Bear. So this is WVU sportsmanship? Hitting opposing fans? This makes me proud of JTray and he set the standard to how a class act player conducts himself in adverse, hostile environments.
Make the B12 proud Huggy and keep the player until after the season and then suspend the hell of the players that acted in accordance with your sportsman like conduct. Again, this is NOT bball and certainly not the B12. Let's see how Huggy responds to this because now it's his turn after TT was fined $25,000. It is MLK Day, a day of service. Maybe they will punish the player/s in question to civic duty by going to schools in the Motown area and speak against bullying.
I was hoping KU would celebrate MLK day by freeing Billy Preston to play in this game after serving an ungodly amount of suspensions. Well, I guess we see the real score in the B12. Oh...thank you to Bowlsby for all the help on these issues.
COME ON , man . I mean ya the player took a swing, the player should be suspended , - When you have these court storms - there is nothing good going to come out of that.
BUT to say this is what Huggy has taught this kid? -That's just a little bit off the charts. - -Just because people have problems with the aggressiveness of how WV plays - and yes the muggings they hand out to opposing players a lot of time - -To say Huggy teaches his kids to swing at fans - - couldn't be further of base - that's just a crazy statement. - -No person in their right mind is gonna say Bob Huggins is going to teach his players to take swings at fans - -Come on, let's get a grasp on reality. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Gunman I don't feel that it is necessarily a bad thing for a team to play physically. - -Bob Huggins will be a hall of fame Coach probably before it is all said and done. - -Ya it is frustrating at times with the way they play but hey it's who they are, just got to strap it on and get after it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HighEliteMajor said:
The reality is they need to keep the fans away from the players. Players have a lot of adrenaline, they are intense from the competition, and losing heightens that.
This subject here , I couldn't agree with you more. - -I mean your going to have excuses both ways on this But like you said they just bottom line you just HAVE to keep these fans of the floor. Players are still worked up P - - - - - off - and then you have some jack ass rush the floor , maybe say something trying to puff his chest trying to be a Billy bad ass wanna be -umm a good time. - Emotions are still running very high.
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These schools just have to do a better job of crowd control. I mean ya there are going to be sometime I reckon where it is just in avoidable but come on.
After watching the link you provided YA he took a pretty vicious swing at the guy, lucky he didn't connect, was the player wrong for that? - - ya but again come one there were some other players involved not sure what will come out of this Harris could very well be suspended for a game don't think he is a key any ways though is he - -not that this matters in a situation like this anyways just curious.
One of these times it is going to get really ugly. Fans need to act like they have been there before show a little class, you can celebrate in a lot of ways but this? - -This just shows lack of restraint - but I guess Texas Tech HASN'T been there before - -still.
I remember the Jamari incident that could of gotten really ugly, but Jamari showed real restraint fricken idiots - -this here is just another example only a little worse where fans ruin a huge win - just again like the other night though a Duke game - -the other teams fans they were playing were chanting over rated to duke and main while back at the ranch - -Duke was spanking their ass by 34.
Another example of lack of class is if the underdog pulls the upset and the fans start chanting over rated - -really why the hell you wanna chant that - -all your doing is detracting from your win - you want them to be as highly rated as possible - makes your win that much bigger - - I agree bud on this for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Like I said every game is a war. - just check the scores today: - - KU 73 - -KSU 72 , - - Okla St 65 - Texas 64 - - Oklahoma - 102 - TCU 97 OT - - Texas Tech 72 - -WV - -71 - -Iowa St 75 Baylor 65.
Three ONE point contest - -a OT game and then ehhhh Iowa St - just a war - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark Ahh, this just wants to make e break out the hankies and daub my eyes - -Poor ol Squeaky - just can't get a break at the Phog - dog gone the luck - when is he ever going to get a fair shake lol
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Silvio is a long way off from helping us
What exactly were you expecting exactly? - -he only played four minutes and we ALL knew or should of known he wasn't going to show much today, pretty hard to make any kind of observation out of a 4 minute stint his first time out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Man , oh Man. There is jus no way around his. - -This league is just a absolute war every time out. - Just look , I mean - -KU somehow manages to win at home by one today. Would of been a 2nd league loss at home this year, how long has it been since something like that.
So we at home by one. - - - -Texas Tech wins by one at home over West Virginia, & TCU takes Oklahoma to overtime and loses by five. just Brutal.
I mean when you have a team that is 1-4 in the league TCU and their four losses are by a total of 11 points. - three of their losses by a combined total of 6 points even though yes they have lost 4 league games - -they are no joke. - -they have played 3 OT games already one of those double overtime.
There are NO give me's anymore, this league not any game where you feel well there is a win - not anymore. - - you better win your home games , this thing is going to be crazy all year. - Ya we are going to lose teams out the top 25 - cause we are beating the hell out of one another - I really feel for once this league is legit. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well one thing I think we will see, I think our free throw shooting will go up with Silvio now available more fluid around the rim - -attacks the rim going to be sweet maybe - hopefully 3 pt attempts will go down some - -more balanced. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ok my prediction. De Sousa makes his grand entrance I say at the first opportunity of the under 12 minute time out, That's what I say - so let it be written - - so let it be done lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Really huge day for us fans - - for the team - especially for depth purposes - -I feel bad for Billy, some fans have been pretty hard on him - -but he is still a kid - you know he hurts today Seeing Silvio cleared and him still sidelined
Got to be a hard day for Billy - happy for Silvio - but yet. - I know maybe in the wrong but we still need to try and find compassion, he is still a kid we all made mistakes - -It's just to bad I just don't think we gonna get to see our boy play for us at all. just sad, let's keep it civil for the kid, no reason to feast on him it is what it is
Now looking at the brighter side - - -HELL YA Bring it Silvio - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Jayballer54 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Just excited to have a big that can REBOUND
HUGE. - - now though let's hope fans aren't expecting him to come in a be a dominator right off - -lets give the kid a little bit of time to adjust to major College ball right? - BUT ya HUGE. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Nope i expect 20 and 20 in 10 minutes. How's that for pressure!!
Kidds of course
LMAO - - now you stop that lol - - you silly. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
And yeah no way the NCAA is working on Saturday morning. KU simply waited to put this out.
Couldn't agree more. - -I really feel Coach might of known last night. - Like you said umm they have all week and can't or won't clear Silvio but yet they are going in to the office early on a Saturday to clear him? - -I don't think so - doesn't matter, in the end - he is CLEARED - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Just excited to have a big that can REBOUND
I'm thrilled having a third D1 level scholarship big.
Me too my friend - just huge if nothing else from a depth standpoint right now - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Just excited to have a big that can REBOUND
HUGE. - - now though let's hope fans aren't expecting him to come in a be a dominator right off - -lets give the kid a little bit of time to adjust to major College ball right? - BUT ya HUGE. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
This has potential huge implications on rotations, minutes, rebounding
Talking about playing De Sousa and Doke at same time - talk about playing Mitch and him together - -Silvio - 5 - -Mitch 4. - gonna be interesting how they work - talk a lot just about how big it is to help depth. - - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Asst Howard just talking about how impressive Silvio has been in practice. - - Long Athletic really physical - -goes and gets the ball rebounds.
Coach Self saying when we get you eligible - just rebound go to the boards. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
Silvio to BP: See? That wasn't so hard, was it?
lol ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
HUGGGGGGE
You know thing about it is - just makes a huge difference just from that depth perspective. - -can't stress enough the difference between a 8 man rotation and a 9 man rotation - . - He isn't gonna do a lot today, but even if he just creates a presence - get's rebounds when he IS in - maybe collect a garbage basket/putback or two. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
Wooooo
DILLY - - DILLY. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Blown said:
So, he had to be cleared yesterday. My guess is that ncaa offices arent really working on a saturday morning? Give squeaky one less thing he could prep for.
Exactly. - like a friends and me talked you trying to tell me that the NCAA doesn't clear Silvio all week but yet is coming in early on a Saturday morning and clear him? -- I think not. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
dylans said:
@Jayballer54 Today was the day, who knew? Hell yeah!
you know, there was a poster last night can't remember where but just makes you wonder if Coach Self didn't know this last night and just waited to announce not giving old squeaky anytime to prepare if we want to run some Hi/low two bigs at the same time who knows lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
Source?
Heard it on the KU pre-game talk show of 105.9 fm Coach Self was talking about it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@dylans Dam dude you beat me too it - - hell ya. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
KU by 12. - -there you heard it - - This is Paul Harvey - - - -GOOD DAY. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
chriz said:
@Gunman Bob Huggins says hi
Also, I'm assuming he doesn't do it all the time, haven't watched a lot of their games, but you gotta think he's doing SOMETHING Self ain't doing. His kids play their butts off.
Could be maybe just maybe Self isn't doing it - -especially this year cause the lack of depth from the bench? -Don't you think it would be kind of a dum ass move for Self to try and press all over the floor the entire game with the depth we got ? As if these kids aren't playing to many minutes the way it is right now , little lone playing those kind of minutes and pressing all over. - We are right at the top of the league as it is causing turnovers /steals with the type of defense we run right now. -Every coach has their own way, I'm happy with the way Self TRIES maybe not as successful this year with the D we run. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HighEliteMajor said:
Who guards Dean Wade? Mitch Slap? Can Doke? Svi?
My personal thinking is that it will probably SVI - - oh lord Wade go off for 30 - -SVI defense is horrible , but that is who I think will. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jaybate 1.0 said:
Increasingly each game is an indicator of how KU will shoot the trey the next game.
If they are hot against KSU, they will be cold against WVU, and so will lose.
If they are cold against KSU, they will be hot against WVU, and so will win.
If they are middling against KSU, it could go either way against WVU, and so there is no predicting how they will do against WVU.
What we can say with confidence is that KU will be mugged by WVU.
I wish this was the case against WV - - BUT sorry to say, that this year I'm afraid if were hot from the three at WV -- we lose - - -if were cold from the three at WV - -we get buried, I just think this is probably WV year - oh what the hell I just say? - -slap me - - wash my mouth out - I didn't just say that did I? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Major changes for my boys. - -lots of change , BUT not the change I would of thought. -- Green Bay cleaning house - -in the front office personell. & coaches. - -New DC coordinator - - -Mike Pettine has been a head Coach and previous DC coordinator with the Jets, - - Bills, & Ravens his defense with the Jets from 2009-12 was 1st - - 3rd - - & 8th - - with the Bills was 10th in the league - -has never had a defense outside the top 10.. big get there for the pack.
New OC Joe Philbine - -was Coaching the Miami Dolphins has been with the Packers before. - -New QB Coach Frank Cignetti -- been with the Giants the last two years. Then new Receivers Coach Jim Hostler - been with the Colts - -lots of changes - -Then we have a New GM - - Brian Gutekurnt - - saying going to be a lot more aggressive in free agency.
Big question mark and I hope to hell they get it done - -but huge question as to whether Clay Matthews will be let go - or if he will be willing to re structure his contract because of salary cap - I don't understand how all that works - but he is at 11 million, the possibilities of re- structure OR possible letting him go - I hope he is back for sure, going to be a new defense - If we can get our defense improved - to go with the offense we have with Aaron - -going to lots of good times. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Dam , really bas luck.- Your a young man such as Frank and have had to bust your ass all your life to make believers out of non believers and then final reach your destination, and still have to bust your as everyday because of the competition on the roster to be able to obtain playing time and then have this happen , is a blow. Hopefully he can bounce back soon and maintain what he has accomplished. - -I mean for some they would be satisfied to be on the NBA roster - -sit the bench - -and collect their money, - -Then you have Frank - he is a worker, he wants to play and prove that he belongs hell of a success story for him - wish nothing but the best for him - I realize not that bad of injury but yet still sets him back some - he will be fine. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
You wonder how much longer Billy will be in town unless he plans on playing next year. Why stay and practice minimal reps with the first team, he could go over seas and play. He is projected to go in the late second round as of right now, not sure anyone would draft him at this point.
going to be interesting, to see if he packs it up. - with Bill saying no time table now - why would he want to come back after wasting an entire year - -like people has said probably get a trainer focus on the NBA or go over sea's for awhile. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
It's only about silvio anyway. There won't be any updating billy
Do we really need to discuss Billy anymore? -I think we know that ship has sailed. - Coach said not about Billy - -no time frame on Billy. pretty much sums it up. - -I'm not to sure but they might already know about Billy -but yet that can't be because why would we keep leading Billy on? - If they knew then Billy would be gone by now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY