@RockChalkinTexas said in KU vs Tech Game Thread:
That's better. Hope MJ can contribute
With Joe out his moment is nowā¦
@RockChalkinTexas said in KU vs Tech Game Thread:
That's better. Hope MJ can contribute
With Joe out his moment is nowā¦
@DanR said in KU vs Tech Game Thread:
I'm starting to think Harris can drain an open three as easily as he drops a dime pass
Would make the coaches truth tellers that heās gonna score more! Him with a 3 and floater game isnāt fair
Great response! If Gradey could buy a bucket weād be just fine. Wilson and Juan playing like studs
Geez no favors from the stripes tonight
KJās leg held on his miss earlier now the fake flop crap
@jayballer67 said in KU vs Tech Game Thread:
@Woodrow said in KU vs Tech Game Thread:
Gotta make shots
got to be able to make a pass with out throwing it away or traveling
If Bobby and Juan are going to play together And turn it over just put rice in for Bobby at this point
Thanks @wissox and God bless you and your family as well!
@nuleafjhawk thanks for the encouragement about how your Dad keeps on living - thatās awesome to hear!
@approxinfinity yeah Coach Self was spot on with that one.
Draymond would hit a three a few years ago now heās brutal.
Kj better athlete by a mile just needs draymond to show him how to rebound defensively (offensively heās already solid).
Merry Christmas!
We are playing REALLY good right now and that is even after the Harvard game. Typically that is a Sprint center loss and our guys still gutted out a 14 point win.
Juan - Absolutely must play as many mpg at the 1 as possible. He was a stud in the IU matchup after coach woke him up. If he could just see 1 three drop I think he starts to average 1-2 a game which just opens things up more for him. He must play the most minutes at the 1 every night. Bobby is not what they've billed so far.
Kevin - This is who's changed this team. He's an animal defensively just flat out taking the ball from guys even as they drive on a fastbreak. The difference and not sure if anyone noticed but his back injury was THE BEST for him. Here is why: MJ Rice got to get some confidence and score. This put just a little fire under Kevin and all of the sudden he is a WALKING DOUBLE DOUBLE. His stroke looks great and with him shooting it like that we have a 3 headed monster with JW, GD and KM.
Gradey - I've seen neenyo on 247 talk about him needing more touches and I agree. When a guy goes 8-12 in a game and 5-5 or 5-6 from 3 then he needs more shots until proven he isn't on fire. He is okay at driving, having some layups under the basket, his pull up game and just any way he can get a shot up in deadly. Neenyo at 247 views the game similarly to me and is as negative but does enjoy a good debate as someone finally analyzed why JW has skills for the nba. I feel as he posts reason and people just say he sucks instead of debating him.
JW - Leader of the team but cooling off of late. He looks to drive but NEVER kicks opposite to Gradey (he does if KM is in the corner). He can mainly drive hard right but man he is GOOD doing it. Dude needs to look to penetrate and kick more but it's difficult as a coach to say that without making him hesitant. JW needs to keep doing what he's doing BUT when Gradey can't miss get the guy more looks. JW and GD need to average the most shot attempts each game. I don't like seeing 15-17 shots for JW and only 8-10 for Gradey especially when Gradey is so darn efficient.
KJ - Draymond JR is money analysis from Self (he must know a thing about basketball). KJ is becoming great at the pick and roll, he gets off the floor so quick that he's rejecting 6-10/6-11 guys. Now that we trap stud bigs like TJD (IU game) it shows we are going to be just fine moving forward. KJ is the starter and I'm 100% on board. He needs to learn JW's hard drive right because no big can guard him from the top of the key or elbow.
Bobby - Needs to penetrate WAY more and look to dish or finish those layups (as he did against IU but was back to average against Harvard). When he's in the team just doesn't run the same. The Juan & Bobby lineup I absolutely hate especially when Juan doesn't look to score. Bobby needs to ATTACK and try a 3 one of these days and he will be okay. Curious how he does next year with some stud guards we have in.
Joe - He's a good defender but I'm seeing what Bill probably has seen for 2 years now. He's hit some 3's in limited minutes so that's all we can expect.
MJ - Needs more minutes but still lost out there at times. Bill has to let him learn in-game to grow through it. He's a better athlete and defender (when he knows what he's doing) than Joe and Bobby. He needs to be the 6th man and scorer off the bench as many have said. His interviews he's saying all the right things.
Zuby/Udeh - Neither are where they need to be but getting better. Zuby should be 1st big as Self mentioned Udeh was "whipped" 1st defensive possession in the post against Harvard. They are the future though just need to be patient and give us good spot minutes for KJ.
Clemence - Not seeing it and will probably transfer this offseason if I had to guess
IU game was perfection, the guys played great and dominated. IU is a solid team but not as good as their ranking was. I'd love going at Tenn again to see how our adjustments work. When you double the ball you are daring guys to shoot wide open 3's.
Our D is nasty with Juan & Kevin. Gradey is getting steals (had what 4-5 the other day) and JW pulls more boards than Barkley.
This team can get to a final 4 just need some breaks like last year. We can hang and beat any team in the country.
Ready for this big 12 slate to see how tough we are. Us dominating missery on the road was awesome and after watching them dominate ILL (who's in a free fall but still) it shows these older guys + stud frosh in GD can get it done.
Self will dominate continuously with the portal. Get older guards like KM and then some good big here or there.
RCJH
@Gorilla72 said in Paging:
@kuballin10 - thatās tough about your Dad. Sending prayers for himā¦
I appreciate it - I'm a man a faith (funny I know with all my negativity as I'm always that way towards the hawks, chiefs, royals ect) so we are praying hard as well but trusting that whatever the outcome is.
Definitely still lurking but took a break from posting all my negativity. After last year, I said I was going to enjoy every season moving forward and was getting way too frustrated over a stupid game.
That and my Dad who's already lost 1 kidney due to cancer has a not favorable report and will find out in the coming months regarding the 1 good kidney he has. Not looking for any pity but it puts things in perspective real quick.
My Dad got me hooked on KU ball when I was 10 he took me to a game and we always go to Lawrence really early I'm talking like 2-3 in the afternoon before a 7 p.m. game. We'd eat at Taco Johns (it's not the best joint in Lwr by any means but what we do) and then we go to Allen and just walk around as the students are all camped out. Well Wayne comes out and starts just shooting as we are the only people standing on the floor in AFH (students are in the halls outside camping). He asks me to rebound for him and after about 20-30 minutes ask me if it was okay to show me to the locker room in which my Dad of course goes, "go for it!". I was hooked ever since.
I'll post another message on my thoughts about the team they are really looking good right now. We have some holes but so does everyone.
@BShark yes, clearly program needs a shake up Bill aināt cutting itā¦ā¦kidding for those whoād actually take it seriously. Heās a hall of famer doesnāt mean infallible.
Heās giving the freshman some minutes they just look awful
@Jethro Bill wants a freshman big key word FRESHMAN big to emerge. He doesnāt want Kj at the 5 for all these minutes and him saying freshman means Zach isnāt looking at much opportunity if Bill has it his way.
Wish Zuby had some more run yesterday he can at least rebound
@dylans from halftime of Wisconsin on weāve lost 112 to 86 (second half and OT if Wisconsin and then TN game).
Took our lumps letās see what Self does with this team offensively
@Texas-Hawk-10 I had us losing that game first time ever in my bracket I didnāt pick us to win it all.
Bad ball = some March wins but ultimately not title contenders
Big 12 appears stacked this year gonna be a long season and hopefully these guys improve
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 it isnāt all Harris fault but if heās the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys canāt score.
I also generally believe that unless the bench is developed, this team has a hallmarks of a Round of 32/Sweet 16 team.
Donāt say that too loud youāll be blocked and labeled not a fan for being realistic
I agree unless bigger bigs and mj get going we are an early out
@jayballer67 I agree with this win and lose as a team just more fun to analyze the whyās
Kj gets so many offensive long rebounds but is awful on the defensive it which I donāt understand
@Texas-Hawk-10 that and UT clogged the paint playing off everyone except Gradey so Wilson and Mccullarās driving lanes were non existent
I said it will be a long night for Wilson and Gradey which means other guys have to score
Our scout is easy
Let Juan shoot as many times from deep as he wants
KJ - only scores on lobs
Kevin - let him shoot
Wilson - double him every time he drives
Gradey - whoever guards him does not help
Juanās guy helps when Wilson drives or Kevinās.
@jayballer67 Iād bow out to after those last few posts ārolfmaoā
@jayballer67 you listed Cuffe and Martin as if because we arenāt fully healthy those two bench warmers would have made a difference
Talk about a tripā¦.come down from that high man. Surprised you didnāt list Jank too
@Texas-Hawk-10 it isnāt all Harris fault but if heās the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys canāt score.
Good teams will slow Wilson and Gradey down as they can out athlete them. Kevin is the third scorer but if you know the game or watch heās a defensive specialist and rebounder not some 15ppg guy.
Teams can matchup better with Wilson and Gradey and Juan must score more
@jayballer67 Cal is awful
Give me Jay Wright - his teams played aggressive on BOTH sides of the ball. He never quick hooked kids especially early and let them play through mistakes. He did more with less at a school that isnāt a top recruiter like the blue bloods
Jay
Roy/Bill
Thatād be the order
@jayballer67 he helped you interpret mine since you somehow couldnāt put 2 and 2 together
I didnāt include the bench because we donāt have one
Cuffe haha get out if you read this board you know he isnāt getting minutes
Martin the same
Bobby doesnāt even look to score
Tonight is more reflective of who we are this year. I mean if you didnāt see all those close calls against average teams and came away thinking we are a legitimate title contender - the red and blue glasses are glued on too tight
@FarmerJayhawk 2 Nattyās
Plenty of choke jobs and bad lineups
Thatās always been his problem holding D higher than O like itās the 1990ās basketball
Nfl has adapted, nba as well. Easier to teach a scorer ti defend than a defender how to score
@jayballer67 the reply when proven wrong - appreciate ya brother
@Texas-Hawk-10 somebody coaches and gets it
See tonight against a real team and what happens those three guys are 7,11,7 - graphic just for you bud I texted my buddy at espn for ya
Haha Jank is in Self is waiving the white flag
@jayballer67 howās that work tonight against legit d1 competition?
@jayballer67 you forget your own posts? Put the bottle down man
You said 9 ppg from Juan would cut it
I outlined how that only gets us 57 points in reality which aināt winning many games this year against real competition
So your theory that 9 ppg Juan is enough I āoutlined itā for you that the math doesnāt work. Dude has to score more
@FarmerJayhawk I mean I wouldnāt as a coach put that weight on a kids shoulders if I was not being literal
Mj had a chance there to cut it to 9
Then they hit the 3
That was our chance not enough firepower to keep up with the big dogs
Texas
Baylor
KU
This year
@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesnāt have a doke so we canāt hang our hat on it
@jayballer67 Bill hasnāt played rice all tourney and extended minutes now
Do the same with Zuby - we know what we have in Kj
This game is over is it not? Bills not even arguing with the refs anymore you can see he knows itās done
Itās KU - title or bust and KJ at the five is great for half a game but not going to win it
@KirkIsMyHinrich heās got jobbed tonight just awful officiating
Games like tonight he got exposed with our start, leading the team in turnovers and thatās just him playing half of the first half and now heās out.
He has to be Frank, devonte, tyshawn offensively for us to win a title. Last years team he didnāt have to do that.
9 ppg wonāt cut it
@FarmerJayhawk he went against everything heās ever said āif a guy isnāt ready in February I wonāt play him in Marchā except he had no choice because of how bad certain players were. He played him and we won
The problem is how are we going to fix this?
38 points - hope we get to 50-55
Good D wonāt stop great offenses
Either play the young guys and take our lumps or donāt.
@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound heās the best of the 4
People saying our offense needs Juan - he has 4 toās and we were down 7-8 real early when he was playing. He wouldnāt make the difference in a W and an L
This is what happens when you have 1 on 1 iso offense and guys who canāt shoot (besides Gradey)
@jayballer67 Ask the hall of fame coach heās the one starting a 6-6/6-7 five man
Kevin going 1 on 1 lol dude you arenāt good
My 7 point loss is feeling off should have said 15
@Texas-Hawk-10 - rested or not wouldnāt make a difference
@Texas-Hawk-10 Mj, Jeter, Kobe whoever would all say excuses
The Butler game three of their starting five played 25, 27 and 31 and bench guys 29, 24 and 23
Then their OT game
UT is a better team as kenpom showed and Vegas knows
@DCHawker joeās 1 game we need him to be decent at least he has been
He in selfās mind is a 2 but I think he could be molded into a 1
Time to see what we are made off with no Juan
@KirkIsMyHinrich which is bad - wide open looks when we hang our hat on D
@Texas-Hawk-10 I hate this excuse
UT was in OT yesterday
There is no excuse
Opening play is a screen to Kevin not Gradey for 3 - What are we doing Bill?
@Zabudda Kevin was open he just isnāt able to buy a bucket
Tough when we give it back 10 times
UT playing without their best player - imagine if we had to do that
17 turnovers and up 8ā¦.this is a legit team @FarmerJayhawk
Frustration is our play good D and scrap is great will get us to sweet 16 or elite 8 but the great offensive teams beat the good defensive teams in basketball every timeā¦
Joe stepping up when we need it most doing more than Bobby has this year and more than Juan had this gameā¦.this is the Joe we need
@jayballer67 man you watch KU before? Thatās nothing new and Self has explained it
He hates easy buckets itās why we never press because it results it layups when broken correctly
He guards paint out in 2022 itās why teams often shoot well against us
@FarmerJayhawk not at all I explained to you. Just because you are in a power 5 conference doesnāt make you legit competition
Frick 8 another three
UT is the aggressor offensively and look tougher right now
@wissox fair enough Iāll change my tune
I feel like we are down 12-15 but itās only 5
Thatās a plus!