Harris - Dan your man come on chirp back!
@DanR youāre right heād out jumped and boxed out bishop backside
Imagine how good we could be with him playing 30 mpg all year
Come on Dan dream with me here
Big Dave get it!
Harris get to the bench aināt no one respecting u on either side of the court
@BeddieKU23 texting Case now so he can tell Self
Best idea on this board tonight
Texas isnāt a huge outside threat and helps keep Dave in the game
Run it every other possession 3-4 times
Bill is phenomenal on his plays
Run the elevator for Och
Run the screen the screener
Get the man some open looks without the defender in his shirt
@Zabudda no hes Bill impaired
Texas is focusing everything to shut him down
Wilson, Braun, Yes, Dave gotta step up
Harris hit a 3 need him as well
Yes
Och
Braun
Wilson
Dave
Bill would never
Harris burned right down the lane on the 2 before the three
Wilson good anticipation lol
Dajuan good looking out for the ball lol
@benshawks08 nah heās like Harris most athletes expose him
Big Dave battling
More yes
Get och some plays bill for 3
Braun step the eff up
Harris sucking against athletes go figure
They arenāt guarding him and heās been awful just like against uk
@approxinfinity glad desk job Danny could see what self couldnāt!
Imagine how quick id changed things if I saw practice
@benshawks08 doubtful he was on me for challenging lineups right away
Glad heās on board
@DanR so Iām not an idiot anymore for pointing it out?
@approxinfinity imagine where heād be if he had the Harris leash all year
Is it 8 pm yet......I want to see us on the road versus an athletic team to see if this growth is real since the UK game
RCJ - horns down go enjoy losing in the sec
@BeddieKU23 he literally is and even against top 10 teams on the road won more than heās lost by a decent amount.
In season big games, he wins at a clip that Iām 99% is the highest among active coaches.
@BeddieKU23 if we get this fastbreak offense which then opens it up for BiG Dave because we donāt start out every game force feeding him the first 4-5 possessions and get down 10-2.....yeah then Selfās figured out how he should adjust his scheme to fit this team
@mayjay the best weāve looked is when heās figured out the lineups and played one guy that many have clamored for all year......
So for the analysis of Joe impacting this team....
Message board idiots - 1
Self - 0
@benshawks08 I want him to emphasize titles over big 12 but one is a stepping stone to another. Gotta play the big 12 games might as well win them
@Jethro heās a cornball but a good coach.
Watch Our Time on espn itās a cool view
@Kcmatt7 going two guards when the 2nd one is fully healthy and an athletic freak helps.
If Bill used him at tech to just be that annoyance on D think we would be undefeated in big 12.
Whereās @benshawks08 - that dude trusted Self and this team to win the big 12 when I 100% doubted them.
While playing wrong lineups we went 6-1........uk loss with those athletes and then och out really helped force Billās hand and reconsider things.
Can definitely see what youāre saying. Tools heās got them but his shot aināt great and he needs to go shadow Frank for an entire summer. Someone get Frank to Lawrence for the summer and pay him plus expenses to train our guards (best jump Iāve ever seen in a player).
Joe gets his right elbow so far in front of his body heās like the anti chicken wing jump shooter....needs a tweaking.
He also needs to drive every time with a purpose. Shoot 3 threeās a game and unless youāre 2/3 donāt bother chucking again.
Harris just limits us title wise against athletic teams who also have skill (Auburn, duke, tucky, zags ect).
5 spot was good BECAUSE we didnāt feed the post it was fast break to start and it opened things up to feed the post when Baylor finally got back and we ran controlled half court sets.
Other feeding of the post was from dribble drive and yes, we still had the we are absolutely throwing it into the post possessions but that isnāt how we started the game nor should it ever be ever again.....Bill.
TCU beat lsu we can easily slip up there...they are underrated right now
Lās
at Baylor (unless Bill letās us fast break again)
At Texas - they are athletic as heck we donāt fair well
At hack Virginia - see our track record
Maybe at tcu
Think we win the rest at home
So itās 14-4 or 13-5 depending on tcu
@BeddieKU23 good deal we need him to keep hounding people on D and attacking
He had one drive he gave up bad but otherwise defensively was solid. Would like a 2-3 steals like isu where heād just strip the ball away but Baylorās guards are obviously much better than isuās
Post game Bill loves Harris - no surprise always likes the least offensive talented player who tries hard
Side note: Harris was terrific tonight
Joe - not as terrific needs to attack twice as much as he shoots. Defensively was okay but didnāt impact like ISU.
Does 13-5 win the league? Say worst case we lose 4 more times I think 13-5 at worst ties for the lead looking at Tech and Baylorās remaining schedules
@approxinfinity Joe had the lob to Dave earlier Dave just missed it
Joe needs to drive more than he shoots heās got the worst shooting percentage Iām sure if any ku player itās brutal
@BShark that was a definite recruiting whiff
Get the ball out of Juanās hands end of half Bill
Two guards produce t.oās
Quick trigger Joe....drive you arenāt proven enough shooter right now
Self just might have figured out these lineups....
Jalen point forward bringing it up with Harris out...someone suggested that Royce whitesque
@BeddieKU23 heās gonna be tired based on other athletes first games back pro and college after having it
@Kcmatt7 only idiots lol
Get out and run Bill itās time to adopt a new style for your team versus forcing your old 1990ās style!
@Kcmatt7 Self needs to channel his inner Roy!!!
Get out and run letās go!!!!
Boys came to play and the D is guarding today
We gotta win they are missing their leading score canāt lose today
Divisive? Itās a message board....I came here stating emphatically Self screwed this up. As expected I got crapped on because I donāt see practice and Iām behind a computer. Divisive was never me it was people who didnāt like hearing at 18-3 we have some glaring holes keeping us from being the title team we thought we were coming into the season.
I like a good debate you will never offend me. Iāve enjoyed when people donāt just say āoh you donāt knowā
They come at me like dchawk and texashawk with reasons Iām right or wrong. Thatās the point of any sports message board to discuss and analyze the team.
Not really following what your posts means Iām not superior Iām seeing that the roster has been mismanaged and pointing it out.
You taking offense as Iām lauding Iām superior is funny....no one on this board or pretty much all of coaching is superior to Self....but he does make mistakes thatās what I pointed out in my fan frustration.
@jayballer67 youāre assuming he will get in foul trouble. Youāre assuming the other team will feed the post like we feed Dave meanwhile most teams donāt they get out and run.
There is a definite risk of foul trouble but what we gain offensively (only when Dave is bad) seems worth it for 4-5 minutes a game....letās see what happens.
6-8 trex svi shut down 6-11 235 Bagley...
@jayballer67 what you said about Wilson is true but same for Mitch and Kj (heās 6-6 and has played the 5).
Iām conceding D wonāt be good but thatās okay I expect with Joe and Harris hounding the ball that Iām willing to give that up for having the 5 best basketball players and scorers on the floor.
Give up defense for better offense and pushing the pace. Opens things up for Och and Braun.
Also what Texashawk said the breakdown per player is correct each has their deficiencies.
@jayballer67 Wilson leads the team in rebounds? What he canāt defend the block against Oscar....neither can Dave or Mitch.
When itās bad Dave (which is often) this is our best 5 players.
Harris
Joe
Och
Braun
Wilson
I donāt want Mitch or KJ they donāt bring enough.
Top rebounders
Wilson
Dave
Och
Braun
You guys act like we are giving up a lot when in reality we are fine we have 6-6, 6-8, 6-8. Yes, if we play Oscar again I get it but after watching Svi shut down Bagley in the Elite 8.....rolling with Wilson at the 5 puts our best players on the court.
@FarmerJayhawk no narrative just you two on me thatās all - if we agree now then all good will move on
@Jethro but play KJ at the 5?
@FarmerJayhawk so all that being said I came in here saying how Self was wrong and you guys hammered me.
Glad you saw it my way in the summer but didnāt 2 weeks ago
Yes off the bench early
If itās bad Dave Iām throwing Wilson at the 5. He, och, Braun and yes can rebound just fine.