The Tournament is back. Wow it feels good. Did I mention it feels great?
Early slate of games:
Florida/Va Tech 12:15 tip (EST)
Arkansas/Colgate 12:45 tip (EST)
Illinois/Drexel 1:15 (EST)
Texas Tech/Utah St 1:45 (EST)
Picks? Thoughts?
Early games, I didn't pick an upset although I think you could pick the higher seed in 3 of the 4.
Originally had Va Tech but they haven't played well post covid issues, they have only played 3 games since February 9th with the only win against helpless Wake Forest. Florida, watched several times and don't really understand how they got a #7 seed. Their players are just better then Va Tech, expect Tre Mann to have a big game. Florida is the pick.
Arkansas/Colgate should be high octane/high scoring. Colgate averages 86 ppg, only played 15 games on the season. Top 4 scorers are guards who shoot the 3 really well. They have size but its young. Line on this was only 8.5. I think Arkansas is a bit overrated but we'll see how this one goes. Arkansas is the pick in a tight game.
Illinois should win by 30, 22.5 favorites.
The first Big-12 game features Texas Tech. Utah St's Neemias Queta is one of the best bigs you've never heard of. Averages a double/double and is an absolute beast in the paint on both ends. Really a complete player, averages over 3 blocks and 2.5 assists a game. If he controls the game inside against Tech's limited frontcourt then this one could be really close. Ultimately I went with Tech, Beard's tourney success, strong defense and their guards are better then Utah St's. Utah St doesn't have Sam Merrill anymore and Tech has McFlung, who we know can shoot you in and out of games. Would be disappointed if Tech doesn't get a W for the Big-12. The Big-12 has a really good shot of going 4-0 on Day 1.
@BeddieKU23 I was about to go look up the schedule and saw your post! Thx!
The commentators are looking forward to the TT-USt game. Nice analysis.
Oklahoma St is only a 7 pt favorite today with Vegas which I find really odd. They were under seeded and have one of the best players in the country and now play a 23 win Liberty team who's won 12 straight. Liberty shoots the 3 extremely well (39% as a team). They lost to Purdue by 13, TCU by 4 & Missouri by 9 with P5 wins over South Carolina & Miss St, two middling SEC teams. I think Liberty is getting a little too much respect here as they play in an extremely weak conference with 4 of their 23 wins coming against non-division 1 schools. Lancaster Bible College, Carver College,
Columbia International, Bluefield College. Yeah I think Vegas missed on this
I nailed all 4 of the play-in games yesterday, so I'm sure I'll get all the ones that actually matter wrong today. Excited to watch Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma St, and West Virginia all play today.
CBS going for all the advertising money today. 2 timeouts within 3 seconds of actual play
Florida looks terribles
Hinkle's gym really reminding me of Allen day games with the sun shining in..
Colgate only played 5 different teams this year. wow
Liking this Colgate game so far. They came to play
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Liking this Colgate game so far. They came to play
Yeah Colgate is a team I did not want to see.
Virginia Tech looks better than a 10-seed. Colgate looks better than a 14-seed.
Colgate up 8 with 7:55 in the first half. They look legit
Florida really is that bad too I guess.
I didn't really know how good Florida was this season, but they are 14-9 and coached by Mike White so. I went with Va Tech.
I had picked Va Tech but they only played 3 games in 40 days and they hadn't looked good either. Florida is not playing up to their talent level. We'll see how the 2nd goes
Colgate still up 8 fun offensive team to watch
Ya, Pirate Kansas is taking it on the chin right now.
Hello Colgate up 14!
This Ferguson kid shoots 51% from 3, 50 from the field. Video game
Ya I mean I think KU would be losing to Colgate right now. I feel a little bad for Arkansas.
Colgate has some foul trouble. Cooling off a bit. Arkansas starting to ramp up pressure
Colgate falling apart, need halftime bad
Arkansas was always going to make a run. Colgate just needs to keep playing hard.
Colgate looks shook. Their leading scorer has done nothing for them as well
Ref's will never actually know what a charge is
17-0 run by Arkansas to end the half. Jeez
Wow, that was insane. Colgate completely implodded
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Ya I mean I think KU would be losing to Colgate right now. I feel a little bad for Arkansas.
We would have lost to Colgate, happy to have dodged them.
Who knows though, that collapse was insane.
I picked Texas Tech to win but I don't feel good about it at all.
Definitely depends on which version of McFlung Tech gets. The one that gets 20 or 5 determines the game
Matt just Clunged a wide open 3
Adds an airball
Looks like the McClung that will shoot you out of games
Definition of a hot and cold microwave
Tech's in trouble with this match-up
Quetta is such a skilled big, especially passing
Beard will have to adjust but their offense has been offensive so far
Gators within a bucket with 9 to go
Florida actually shooting 57% from the field but still losing. 10% better than the Hokies
Boy Quada from Utah St giving Texas Tech defensively you can see how hesitant Tech is with their attempts inside. - - Quada with 91 blocks - -big boy I think said 7 footer
Colgate's microwave working again, down 5 to up 4 in a hot minute
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Quetta is such a skilled big, especially passing
ya that's how is spelled lol
@BeddieKU23 9/18 from 3
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Colgate's microwave working again, down 5 to up 4 in a hot minute
Watch if they not careful Arkansas gonna fool around and lost that game
Flop Warning on Colgate player after Arkansas player flopped to get a 3rd foul on Colgate's leading scorer. Ref's couldn't ref if they ever tried
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Quetta is such a skilled big, especially passing
ya that's how is spelled lol
He's a stud, only a Jr too
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Quetta is such a skilled big, especially passing
ya that's how is spelled lol
He's a stud, only a Jr too
mercy Big/Tall and solid
Illinois up 18 at half, check that game off
Florida within 1 with 6 and change to go
Florida looks like they're going to take it. Virginia Tech's shot selection is terrible.
Florida now up 1 with 5 to go
Colgate has left points at the FT line. 3-10
Colgate in 1-1 with 15 to go. Must be exploited
Gators up 4..
I don't think Virginia Tech has taken a good shot in like 10 minutes.
Ugly Tech game. 12-12 at the under 8 timeout
Announcer getting this perfect, Arkansas back to lack of urgency. Colgate lead up to 6
Florida up 6 with 2 and change
Wild sequence in the Colgate game. Arkansas down 1 at the under 12..
Va Tech hasn't made a field goal in 7 minutes. Bad time to go cold.
Texas tech up 5 with just under 5 left in the first half. 19-14
2 officials can't even get a charge/block call correct. Just so bad
And a blown out of bounds call against Arkansas. This is definitely the C crew
Queta with 5 blocks in the first half.
Virginia Tech within 1 with 30 to go..
Queta going for the NCAA record for blocks in a game. Up to 6
Colgate just fouled a 3 pt shooter down 3. Feels like a big play
Ya Florida's got it.
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Queta going for the NCAA record for blocks in a game. Up to 6
Does Cole have that record?
Va Tech misses a game tying 3 with 10 seconds to go
He got fouled tbh
Illinois is doing 1 seed things to Drexel.
Trying to find. Withey has the record for the tournament with 31
Damn!!!!
Va Tech ties it
Should have been a game winner. Va Tech got fouled the previous possession.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Queta going for the NCAA record for blocks in a game. Up to 6
Does Cole have that record?
Shaq holds the record at 12. Withey & Cole both had 10 in games
Really shitty defense by Florida btw
Arkansas is going to survive unless Colgate can start making shots. Hogs up 13 now at the under 4 timeout.
Wow what a shot.
Florida will survive
Florida will survive and move on.
Down 4, so you run time off the clock and settle for a long 2. Not ideal.
Florida shot 56.5% from the field for the game and deserved to win.
Texas Tech is lucky Utah St can't make wide open 3's.
One of my favorite announcers doing the tech game
What are the blue plastic mailbox things scattered around the sidelines/bench?
Big 12 off to a good start. Tech moves on
Baylor playing with their food early on.
@DanR said in Today's Games Thread:
What are the blue plastic mailbox things scattered around the sidelines/bench?
Just saw a player bend down and drink out of one. Apparently they are blue plastic poweraid contactless waterbowls
Terrible right now
Well playing 5 brackets right now and through 4 completed games I am 18-2 so can't complain so far , but these have been pretty easy picks
In my ONE bracket, I'm 4-0. Although, at the last minute, I changed my ONE bracket to have Baylor beat Wisconsin and ultimately make it to the E8.
Baylor starting to make some shots
Including the first 4 play-in games, I'd be 4-4. Missed all of those first four.
Officiating horrendous in the Baylor game
Baylor waking up. Up 6
Ohio St like whaaaat. Down in the 2nd half to Oral Roberts
Let's go Mouth Bob
Oral Roberts still winning at the under 8..
Baylor up 16 at half
Ohio st up 4 with a min
2nd missed goaltending on Ohio St...
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
2nd missed goaltending on Ohio St...
The foul calls coming down the stretch have been suspect as well.
Not that they are NOT fouls, but they only seem to be fouls on one end of the court.
Ok, make up bail out call there. Conspiracy retracted.
2 missed goaltending calls seems important though
In a one point ball game, you may have a point.
Offiaciting today has been horrendous
That's the ohio state end of game play call coming out of a time out?
Overtime
A beaut wasn't it
I mean, I know we just always run chop but still....
Washington their best player. Thought he had an angle for a floater
@benshawks08 said in Today's Games Thread:
That's the ohio state end of game play call coming out of a time out?
Putting the ball in the hands of your best player and letting him decide what to do isn't the worst strategy in the world.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I forget what it's like to have a best player.
Wow Washington is a chucker
Rut roh the Ohio St
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
ORU guards getting wherever they want.
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
Barnes offense is offensive
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
Barnes offense is offensive
Very True , they must of used it all when they played us
MOUTH BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ohio St is going down
And here come the refs...
About ready to take my 1st hit today & it's a Big one. - Ohio State gonna get beat , just wet all over themselves. Have a feeling I won't be by myself on this though.
Baylor destroying Hartford up by 25
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
Typical Rick Barnes NCAA Tournament performance. Not getting past the first weekend is his specialty since his teams have been bounced in the first two round 7 of his last 8 tournament appearances.
@Texas-Hawk-10 That seems like a bad record.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
Typical Rick Barnes NCAA Tournament performance. Not getting past the first weekend is his specialty since his teams have been bounced in the first two round 7 of his last 8 tournament appearances.
Mercy pretty sad preformance
Making free throws is important
Washington shot them out of this one
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Making free throws is important
I see no evidence that this is true...
@benshawks08 said in Today's Games Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 That seems like a bad record.
It is, big reason why Texas fired him.
Those last two free throws are big time.
Barnes has made 24 tournament appearances before this season, he's only made past the 1st weekend 7 times. And all of those appearances have been at major conference schools from the Big East (Providence), ACC (Clemson), Big 12 (Texas), and now SEC (Tennessee) so he doesn't have the excuse of being at a mid major when it'd be more acceptable to not get past the weekend.
Washington. Wow.
Imagine getting blown out by this Tennessee team.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Check on Mantis please.
@BShark said in Today's Games Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Check on Mantis please.
That's what happens when you give a 9-loss team a 2-seed. lmao
Before the big 10 tourney they lost 4 straight games. Flawed as heck 2 seed
Welp , that is going to mess with people's brackets. - Let's be honest and I said Honest lol. How many of you had Oral Roberts beating Ohio State ? -- I sure didn't
Wow dipsy do from Johnson to end the half. Can see why he's mocked in the first round
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Welp , that is going to mess with people's brackets. - Let's be honest and I said Honest lol. How many of you had Oral Roberts beating Ohio State ? -- I sure didn't
I had Florida beating OSU in the second round so this doesn't hurt my bracket all that much.
Baylor will make it 2 for 2 for the big 12
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Welp , that is going to mess with people's brackets. - Let's be honest and I said Honest lol. How many of you had Oral Roberts beating Ohio State ? -- I sure didn't
I had Florida beating OSU in the second round so this doesn't hurt my bracket all that much.
Cool but probably in the minority on this
Even if we lose to Eastern Washington, it won't even be the worst loss of the tournament. This is great.
And Ohio St/B10 fans have been obnoxious this season with their best conference bs. Couldn't have happened to a better team.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Tennessee getting SPANKED 27-11
Typical Rick Barnes NCAA Tournament performance. Not getting past the first weekend is his specialty since his teams have been bounced in the first two round 7 of his last 8 tournament appearances.
Ouch. Shaka supporters feeling pretty good rn.
Georgia Tech would be winning with Moses Wright
@BeddieKU23 Probably. Both of these teams were under-seeded. This is more like a 6-7 game.
This may have ben brought up alreday but I have been off for a bit. Anyways has anyone else noticed a trend all day long how the lower seeded teams are giving the higher seeds fits , maybe not the total game but there is quite a bit of the game where lower seeds hanging close or even winning. - -Sure don't want to see this ommorrow
Oklahoma St with a 6pt lead with 5 to go.. Cunningham struggling this game
I am not an okie state fan but i have to say they are playing with some of the worst officiating I have seen in a long time.
The officials have just been terrible and helped keep the game close. OSU is way better than Liberty.
Lead still at 6 with 2 and change to go
@BeddieKU23 seems like this happens every year. Makes me think the official deliberately try to keep games close so there is more opportunity for dramatic endings.
Okie State wins. So much for my upset pick. Flames gave 'em a run though.
Oregon State vs Oklahoma State. I know OSU will win that game.
@bskeet said in Today's Games Thread:
Oregon State vs Oklahoma State. I know OSU will win that game.
And I know which OSU WON'T
@BeddieKU23 god. The charge might as well be an artistic act. It is completely subjective and every crew has their own interpretation.
@nwhawkfan touché
Just got in awhile ago...so glad that I won't have to hear any more from my Ohio State buddy for awhile.
Expect A Miracle
Not sad to see Falwell U lose. Oklahoma St looked pretty bad though.
Say goodnight Roy.
Wisconsin with 13 made 3-pointers. Oof
Grimes having himself a nice little game in UH's destruction of Cleveland St. 14-4-4 with about 5 minutes left including 4-9 from deep.
Glad to see Wisconsin have a hot night, but other than them and Illinois, the rest of the b1g has kinda stunk. Purdue on the ropes and Rutgers later. ?
Roy had won 29 straight round of 64 games before tonight. That's one of the most incredible streaks in NCAA Tournament history to me.
@Texas-Hawk-10 That's literally why I picked UNC to win lol
Guess who will be in the barn in Indy tomorrow? Someone who way overpaid but just the got the stimulus check.
My Heels apparently never left Chapel Hill. I suspect all but Brooks and Sharpe will be back. UNC is gonna be really good next year.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Getting to the dance 30 straight is pretty incredible let alone winning 29!
@DanR said in Today's Games Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Getting to the dance 30 straight is pretty incredible let alone winning 29!
To be fair he missed a couple. One at KU then I think an early year at UNC
The b1g conference may win the tournament in rebounding
North Texas might be about to take out Purdue. Up 4 with 1:22 left.
The B10 conference is looking overrated to start the tournament. Purdue might lose a home game to a 13-seed.
FT's have killed Purdue down the stretch. Missed some And 1's and front end of 1 and 1's late.
@KirkIsMyHinrich You don't like my favorite conference do you!! It's ok.
Nope, sure don't.
UNT tried to run Chop and almost got an open 3 out of it.
What is NoTex doing
OT
Not a bad look. Purdue probably takes it in overtime.
There've been some good games. Maybe we need to have more pandemics?
No matter how it ends, props to North Texas.
Until now all I knew about the school was that they had a great jazz department. Lots of alums in bands from SNL to Letterman to The Blues Brothers. A couple even played with Frank Zappa.
MEAN GREEN
mean green is getting some gentle rolls
@nwhawkfan said in Today's Games Thread:
No matter how it ends, props to North Texas.
Until now all I knew about the school was that they had a great jazz department. Lots of alums in bands from SNL to Letterman to The Blues Brothers. A couple even played with Frank Zappa.
Not just jazz, their entire music department is one of the best in country..
I love random stuff like that. Like KU is amazing at special Ed. You’d never expect it!
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
I love random stuff like that. Like KU is amazing at special Ed. You’d never expect it!
I think there is an internet meme about that
@DanR said in Today's Games Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
I love random stuff like that. Like KU is amazing at special Ed. You’d never expect it!
I think there is an internet meme about that
Produced in Manhattan I’m sure 😂
Not gonna lie the B1G is straight up not having a good time
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
I love random stuff like that. Like KU is amazing at special Ed. You’d never expect it!
I would...the lady I was dating during my KU days was a Special Ed major. We're still good friends; just talked to her last night in CA.
Boiler down
These don't really even seem like bad matchups for the B1G. Ohio State just forgot what worked (driving and pounding inside second half) and Washington went into hero ball mode at the end against ORU for no reason.
State of Texas gonna go 4-0 today.
Not-So-Big-10
At least for the Big 10's sake Illinois looked like what they were supposed to look like.
Ya I actually have Illinois in my Final 4. They are legit
Wouldn't be surprised to see a 13-v-12 matchup in the next round. Winthrop always seems to step up to the occasion. Good timing for them with Nova on a slight decline.
@nwhawkfan i have Winthrop in that game fo sho
Ok guys Nova has to play through James Earl-Robinson (allegedly their center?)
Buddy Boeheim is Syracuse's offense. Scored 16 of their 19 points so far.
Dam what did I miss ? - -I thought West Virginia p;layed today. - -Don't see any score
9:25 WVU Morehead State
Last game of the night, WVU's usual position to stink
SDSU absolutely ice cold tonight. 7-30 from the field and 1-19 from 3 so far.
SDSU is getting Buddy'd
SDSU is KU in the tournament cold.
My God I forget how late these games go on the east coast.
ACC and B10 did not have great days
No 12-over-5 upset here. Villanova over Winthrop. I guess I can finally give my remote a rest...only the WVA game left.
Good chance for a Baylor-Nova matchup in the Sweet 16.
Looks like WVU will move on to put the Big 12 at 4-0 for the day.
And Huggy wins No. 900 pretty easily to wrap up the day.
Everybody sleep well...another full day tomorrow !
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
@DanR said in Today's Games Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Getting to the dance 30 straight is pretty incredible let alone winning 29!
To be fair he missed a couple. One at KU then I think an early year at UNC
The one he missed at KU was the very first year (because of NCAA sanctions). He went every other year he was here. That's why we have the longest streak of NCAA appearances (and still counting).
Duke's streak started in 96 over and has to start over. Michigan State's streak started 1997ish. They are now #2 and Gonzaga is #3 (started around 99).
Oklahoma 8/Missouri 9 is an interesting matchup that I hope the Big 12 wins. 6:25 TNT. I root for all the Big 12 teams, even though I develop great animosity toward them during the season. I could punch smug Lon Kruger in the face; especially after fouling Dok anywhere he was on the floor to win one stinkin' game. But, I'll be rooting for them tonight.
Is there a game thread for the KU game yet?
Is TGF KU caliber player
Bryce should not be jacking up 3s without running some O
Guys,,, I'm feeling it. This team has heart, and is going to advance - they don't quit. I am already proud of them. Elite 8.
Drake hanging tough with USC so far. They look a lot better than they did against Wichita St
I like yesafu 🤣 close?
well here is a little nugget. If we happen to have to match up with USC - one good thing is they are a very poor free throw shooting team, think I head them say their like 340th out of 368 - - - -3-9 today
I listened to the Drake-USC first half on my phone while I went for a run. Danny Manning was one of the Westwood One radio announcers (on SiriusXM). He was not that great.
USC not scaring me at the moment. I hope to god they play this zone against us. Garrett will feast in all that space in the middle of that 2-3
I like Drake's little point guard too. Yesufu
@benshawks08 said in Today's Games Thread:
USC not scaring me at the moment. I hope to god they play this zone against us. Garrett will feast in all that space in the middle of that 2-3
USC is extremely tall and we have struggled against teams with length this season (Kentucky, Texas). We're going to have to shoot well from 3.
Really proud of Big Dave
What a wonderful performance after missing one week of practice and recovering from COVID-19
USC is a terrible match up for Kansas. We don't have a quality answer for Evan Mobley. Dave isn't athletic enough to stay with him as evidenced by the Duck Dynasty guy kicking Dave's ass today. Mitch just isn't good enough to hang with Mobley and Jalen Wilson is probably going to have even worse fatigue issues than Dave did today if he's even able to go on Monday.
KU can't double Mobley full time because USC has three other starters shooting right around 40% from 3 and considering how bad KU's defense was today combined with Self's track record in round of 32 and Elite 8 games, KU' s going to have to pray they shoot like they did again today to have a chance.
First Covid forfeit of the NCAA Tournament goes to VCU as they have to forfeit their game against Oregon so the Ducks are moving on.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
First Covid forfeit of the NCAA Tournament goes to VCU as they have to forfeit their game against Oregon so the Ducks are moving on.
ya heard that made a little thread on it earlier
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
USC is a terrible match up for Kansas. We don't have a quality answer for Evan Mobley. Dave isn't athletic enough to stay with him as evidenced by the Duck Dynasty guy kicking Dave's ass today. Mitch just isn't good enough to hang with Mobley and Jalen Wilson is probably going to have even worse fatigue issues than Dave did today if he's even able to go on Monday.
KU can't double Mobley full time because USC has three other starters shooting right around 40% from 3 and considering how bad KU's defense was today combined with Self's track record in round of 32 and Elite 8 games, KU' s going to have to pray they shoot like they did again today to have a chance.
Sorry USC really didn't impress overly that much. Sure Mobley is good - -USC is ok good, but we have played better teams this year sorry just not overwhelmed by them -- horrible horrible free throw shooting tem like was mentioned like 340th out of 368 teams. - -yep you Got Mobley, 2 Mobleys still again we played presumed # 1 pick for NBA this year and did ok ya different type of player but Cunningham just as talented as Mobley.
Just like other teams you might play with studs - they may get their points go crazy , the key is not to let the others on the team go off for career days. - - Look at Toppin last year - - great player real stud - -result - -we won. This year there has been Cade we split - bottom line can we get beat ? - - Sure - -Will we get beat umm maybe 50/50 - -Can we beat them ? -- sure we can that's why they play the game. - Just not blown away by them, whatever happens happens. - I've said we make it to the sweet 16 with this group - -anything else be gravy. -- Hel lDrake played well with them till like middle of 2n d half.
I do think Dave might have some trouble getting his shot off - -USC great length , still over all --- I'll take our chances
Hopefully Self will come up with a D game plan
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
USC is a terrible match up for Kansas. We don't have a quality answer for Evan Mobley. Dave isn't athletic enough to stay with him as evidenced by the Duck Dynasty guy kicking Dave's ass today. Mitch just isn't good enough to hang with Mobley and Jalen Wilson is probably going to have even worse fatigue issues than Dave did today if he's even able to go on Monday.
KU can't double Mobley full time because USC has three other starters shooting right around 40% from 3 and considering how bad KU's defense was today combined with Self's track record in round of 32 and Elite 8 games, KU' s going to have to pray they shoot like they did again today to have a chance.
Sorry USC really didn't impress overly that much. Sure Mobley is good - -USC is ok good, but we have played better teams this year sorry just not overwhelmed by them -- horrible horrible free throw shooting tem like was mentioned like 340th out of 368 teams. - -yep you Got Mobley, 2 Mobleys still again we played presumed # 1 pick for NBA this year and did ok ya different type of player but Cunningham just as talented as Mobley.
Just like other teams you might play with studs - they may get their points go crazy , the key is not to let the others on the team go off for career days. - - Look at Toppin last year - - great player real stud - -result - -we won. This year there has been Cade we split - bottom line can we get beat ? - - Sure - -Will we get beat umm maybe 50/50 - -Can we beat them ? -- sure we can that's why they play the game. - Just not blown away by them, whatever happens happens. - I've said we make it to the sweet 16 with this group - -anything else be gravy. -- Hel lDrake played well with them till like middle of 2n d half.
I do think Dave might have some trouble getting his shot off - -USC great length , still over all --- I'll take our chances
You're basing your opinion on USC off of one game. They are a good team whose strengths as a team play into KU's weaknesses. KU has been absolute shit on defense away from AFH all year. Dave already can't guard athletic big men and now he's going to have to guard arguably the 2nd best big man in the country while recovering from Covid where it was clear today his stamina is really low. That's a perfect set up for Mobley to go even more nuclear than Groves did today. And USC is not just Evan Mobley. 3 of their other rotation players shoot right around 40% from 3 as well including their PG Tahj Daddy. USC is also one of the best defenses in the country as they rank 13th in FG% defense giving up less than 40% on the year.
USC averages 75 ppg and has only allowed that many points 5 times all year. They are a terrible match up for Kansas because their strengths are KU's weaknesses on both ends of the floor.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Again I am not impressed period - - Good - - not great. - you are wrong period about basing on one game thats laughable, I based off their entire Season - if they that good they couldn't even win their own conference but it's ok you go ahead and drool over USC I'll take my chances sure the not scared by any means you run scared -- you play scared
Well, heck, guess I don't even need to watch.
Mobley is a 31% 3-point shooter and has only made 11 all season. If I'm Dave I give Mobley a cushion and and let him shoot the 3. If we lose because Mobley makes a bunch of 3-pointers I'll live with it.
We're definitely good enough to beat USC, just need to play well.
Evan Mobley that is. The other Mobley shoots 39% from 3. Need to guard older bro.
How on earth did USC lose 7 games if they are so invincible? And losing to unranked teams...yet we are supposed to be dismayed and fearful? Not buying it--we have heard this refrain before!
I don't think anyone is fearful of USC, just nervous about having to play against the P12 player of the year and a likely Top 3 NBA draft pick. Of course KU can win...
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
I don't think anyone is fearful of USC, just nervous about having to play against the P12 player of the year and a likely Top 3 NBA draft pick. Of course KU can win...
very true , but no more fear against him the Cunningham
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
I don't think anyone is fearful of USC, just nervous about having to play against the P12 player of the year and a likely Top 3 NBA draft pick. Of course KU can win...
very true , but no more fear against him the Cunningham
Cunningham and Mobley don't play the same position. Cunningham plays a position where KU is probably the strongest at defensively. Evan Mobley plays a position where KU is its weakest at.
I have never said KU can't win despite what you may believe. All I've said all along is that USC is a terrible match up for Kansas because their strengths are KU's weaknesses. Their offensive big man play exploits KU's lack of post defense. Their perimeter shooting exploits KU's defensive philosophy of switching everything on the perimeter. Their FG% defense is 13th in the nation which exploits KU being a poor shooting team this season.
That ignores how much KU has struggled away from AFH against good teams this year and Self's historical struggles in having KU prepared well enough the round of 32 and Elite 8.
All of that is when KU is at full strength. Insert a less than 100% McCormack and Wilson into the equation, and it's a perfect scenario for KU to come out and struggle on Monday.
Not to brag or anything but my bracket is in the 98th percentile on ESPN.
@FarmerJayhawk sounds like you're bragging!
@Crimsonorblue22 😏😏😏
Christian Braun gets family bragging rights today. Fizzou falls to OU.
Mizzou loses and the B12 moves to 6-0. Nice.
Lol muhzurrah
Well now all we got to do is - - Have Texas win this night cap and the Big 12 makes a clean sweep at 7-0 in opening round
@nwhawkfan I didn't see the whole game, but did his bro play?
@Crimsonorblue22 Just caught the last couple of minutes. Didn't see him in the box score though.
There's Norfolk-ing way the Zags are going to lose this one tonight.
Bulldogs up by 20 at the half.
Abilene Christian doesn’t look like they should be on the same floor with Texas but still within a possession late in the first
Gonzaga in a tight game with 8 to go. Only up 41
@FarmerJayhawk weird
Abilene Christian plays defense like rabbits on cocaine.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
Abilene Christian doesn’t look like they should be on the same floor with Texas but still within a possession late in the first
Note who the coach of the Texas Longhorns is. He isn't very good.
This is a rock fight
Imagine Bill Self had Jones and Sims.
Texas really about to ruin the first round 7-0.
I love ACU. Start a smol at PG and a bowling ball at C
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Texas really about to ruin the first round 7-0.
I'm Okay with that
@FarmerJayhawk said in Today's Games Thread:
I love ACU. Start a smol at PG and a bowling ball at C
Two KC kids. :eyes:
Texass has Had plenty of breaks
Duct tape him
Smearing the blood around
Custodial staff icing the shooter lmao
Reggie what is you doin
100% ACU is going to throw up a piece of crap that will hit the backboard and go in.
Wow.
That's a really weak call with everything they've let go this game.
How the hell do you shoot 48% from 3, but only 59% from the FT line?
Must be 11% closer
And ACU pulls off the upset of the Horns to spoil the Big 12's unbeaten run. Nice going, Shaka.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
He’s a gamer
Abilene, Abilene,
Prettiest town I've ever seen
Women there don't treat you mean
In Abilene, my Abilene.
-Waylon Jennings (as sung by George Hamilton IV, 1963)
Now game times
Top draft pick sits
All in all, a good (if scary) day for KU and alumni, including Tad Boyle at Colorado and Mark Turgeon at Maryland.
Another full day tomorrow, starting with Illinois-Loyola and Baylor-Wisconsin.
Texas just lost to a 14-seed that shot 29.9% from the field. lol
8:40! Good for me and good more importantly for Jalen
Kansas game Monday with USC will be at 8:40pm
Where are you looking for times?
Tait
@JAYHAWKFAN214 The late show !
Prime Time all across the USA
Perfect. It’ll give Jalen time to get there and settle in.
Check out I found wissox with his flag! On his post!
Karma for Shaka! Ha
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Imagine having that roster with 3 possible draft picks and 3 others that will play professionally and lose in the first round. @BShark
7th, 8th best coach in the league?
After what happened last night, does Shaka even keep his job at Texas? He's yet to win a tournament game at Texas losing on a half court shot to Northern Iowa in 2016, blowing a big lead in 2018, and then losing to ACU last night.
Texas has their new arena coming in 2022 so Texas probably has a decision to make about Shaka's future with the program.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Ironic since he mostly got the job on the heels of his tournament success. That was an elite 8/final four caliber team.
Also funny that after Gonzaga’s blow out yesterday the tv kept talking about their streak of first round wins. 12 in a row I think. Second only too.... Kansas of course. For all the moaning a lot of us did mid game yesterday about how this can’t be happening again, why does this always happen to us, yada yada yada, we’ve been better than most come March. Yes it helps to be favored in EVERY first round game but that’s not an accident. Self being labeled a great “regular season coach” is why we are always in such a good position to win some games this time of year.
I do think Texas will drop Shaka. The sports radio around here is not going to let this one go for a while and I don’t think the fans will either.
Illinois having trouble with Jokic lite right now. Go Ramblers
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Illinois having trouble with Jokic lite right now. Go Ramblers
I know it won't last but dang that's a big boy down low for Loyola - he spanking them down low right now. - -Thing is the longer Illinois let's them hang around the crazier it is gonna get now down 10. - - -they gonna have to come out and jump all over them in the 2nd half if they don't pick it up lol
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
After what happened last night, does Shaka even keep his job at Texas? He's yet to win a tournament game at Texas losing on a half court shot to Northern Iowa in 2016, blowing a big lead in 2018, and then losing to ACU last night.
Texas has their new arena coming in 2022 so Texas probably has a decision to make about Shaka's future with the program.
I think it heats up the seat up - lots of fans were already not happy. - - I bet he is getting roasted on their boards right now
@BShark said in Today's Games Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Imagine having that roster with 3 possible draft picks and 3 others that will play professionally and lose in the first round. @BShark
7th, 8th best coach in the league?
This was Shaka best shot let's see Coleman is gone -- - -Kia Jones probably gonna test the waters anyway oh hell cant remember his name their Center is gone - -Jones is done isn't he?
Bad things happen to teams that slap the floor
Illinois in BIG TIME trouble - gonna have to step it up down by 11 with 4:25 to go. - - Rafferty almost crying pleading with Illinois to win this game mercy pathetic - -got step it up - -and just about falling out of his chair every time they score lol
Look out - -Illinois down 9 with like 3:09 to go. - Boy this will screw with people I know no one picking Loyola over Illinois in the 2nd round lol - - bust them brackets
For Shaka to get canned, someone’s going to have to break the news to UT’s money people they have a basketball team.
Also Sister Jean may, in fact, be the lord
As a lifetime BIG fan I'm mildly embarrassed right now. Toughest league in the land we kept saying. But they're toast. Just an awful performance by Illinois.
@FarmerJayhawk UT donors just got done ponying up about $350 million for a new basketball arena. They're aware basketball exists and the new arena is the main reason why Shaka's seat should be hotter than it was last year.
As a Chicagoan, I am at least glad they're losing to a Chicago team. Got to love Loyola which was horribly under seeded. I could say Illinois deserved to play an easier 8 seed, but they played like crap and choked this away. Go sister Jean! And of course, Rock Chalk monday night!
Illinois is - - -DONE - - ya hear me - - DONE/COOKED/FINISHED mercy - -did they say BIG What ?
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk UT donors just got done ponying up about $350 million for a new basketball arena. They're aware basketball exists and the new arena is the main reason why Shaka's seat should be hotter than it was last year.
It's smokin
And Sister Jean & the Ramblers upset the Illini. Lord have mercy !
(Equal time for the Baptists...Baylor up next. And Oral Roberts later.)
Any top level team needing a coach, looking at you Indiana should be burning up Porter Moser's inbox right now.
Now I'm just saying not making Big out of it BUT Illinois if Okie State can take car of business today - -this at least improves Okie States chances of going deeper
That day I met Porter Moser two years ago and told him I still had college eligibility. I could've been out there today.
@jayballer67 Don't know who to root for in that one. Oregon State named their court after longtime coach Ralph Miller, who was from Chanute and played for Phog Allen himself.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m aware. ‘Twas a joke my dude
Anybody got Wisconsin?
@Crimsonorblue22 It was a blast. I picked the Badgers in one of my brackets to beat Baylor but I really don't think it's happening.
FLOP WARNING FLOP WARNING FLOP WARNING
So down goes Illinois and that popping sound you heard is my bracket getting thoroughly busted.
Baylor is falling their way to victory right now. Flopping all over the court.
Another BIG team getting whipped Baylor taking Wisconsin to the shed - hoping it continues helps show who the real toughest league is, Baylor quick today for sure
@tis4tim said in Today's Games Thread:
So down goes Illinois and that popping sound you heard is my bracket getting thoroughly busted.
The right side of my bracket just kicked my butt PERIOD - total diaster
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
The right side of my bracket just kicked my butt PERIOD - total diaster
Not like Ohio State didn’t already do me in with their loss but this one hurt B1G time. My brackets are toast.
What gets me are the people who still have a perfect bracket. How in the heck does anyone have the foresight to pick Oral Roberts? I’ve never figured it out.
@tis4tim said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
The right side of my bracket just kicked my butt PERIOD - total diaster
Not like Ohio State didn’t already do me in with their loss but this one hurt B1G time. My brackets are toast.
What gets me are the people who still have a perfect bracket. How in the heck does anyone have the foresight to pick Oral Roberts? I’ve never figured it out.
Nobody has a perfect bracket left after Ohio won last night.
Glad I haven't done brackets for a while. It's stressful enough rooting for KU.
Illinois bye-bye. Another Big10 1 seed Michigan will soon be the same. Kansas will beat USC. I'm hoping for the Zags to stumble, opening up our bracket. People you can all say that I'm on hallucinogenics, but with all of the upsets and a couple more breaks it is not out of the realm of possibility that Kansas can win the National Championship.
Well looks like West Virginia is Done - -thought they would do better this year
Huggy bear is not a good tourney coach. Consistent at losing early
Another double-digit seed wins. Syracuse over WVU.
Oral Roberts - Florida next.
By the way, the last time ORU made it into the NCAA second round was 1974, when there were only 25 teams in the tournament field.
Ah, I remember it well...KU managed to outlast them in OT in front of a pro-ORU crowd in Tulsa to win the Midwest Regional and go to the national semifinals (before they called it the Final Four). The Eagles' coach, Ken Trickey, had already announced that he was resigning. The night before the game, he got arrested on a suspected DUI (but was actually given a "reckless driving" charge).
As for the Jayhawks, they lost to Marquette in the semis and to Bill Walton & UCLA in the now-defunct third-place game. NC State won the title that year, led by David Thompson.
Syracuse was pretty fortunate to win that game. West Virginia played about as badly as they could, shot 15% worse from the field, and still almost won at the end.
Texas tech getting screwed by the refs
Wow these refs cannot get anything right
Pat Adams is a SEC referee who once ejected a commentator. Not surprised Tech is getting screwed.
Mcflung with a missed 1 and 1
Missed 1 and 1 and missed lay-up. Tech choked
Wild ending and tech goes down on missed plays
Tech just flat ass plain and simple BLEW that game. - - Down 1 , your best free throw shooter misses free point - -- you miss 2 dead layups in the final Seconds - you deserve to lose - Holy Bat Shit Robin
Missed 1 and 1 and missed lay-ups. Game was there for TTU to steal, and they didn't execute in the last minute...
@DCHawker said in Today's Games Thread:
Missed 1 and 1 and missed lay-ups. Game was there for TTU to steal, and they didn't execute in the last minute...
pitiful
Tech has no one to blame but themselves
Thanks Texas, WVU and Texas Tech. I'm looking forward to the end of the tournament when I can go back to NOT rooting for other Big12 teams.
I expect Okie Light will disappoint me later tonight.
Fighting Q Grimes’s on the ropes
My bracket was 97% before today and now it's in the trash can.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
My bracket was 97% before today and now it's in the trash can.
FINALLY I got some Company buddy lol - -welcome aboard
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Mcflung with a missed 1 and 1
your best ft shooter and chokes
Wow
Rutgers choked ... they had Grimes and Houston ... had em
Both Arkansas and Houston demonstrating how to not lose. Neither actually won. Their opponents just couldn’t execute basic plays.
Yep, Rutgers blew it.
Update: down 30 percentile points on ESPN over the last two hours. NOT GREAT BOB
GO FIGHTING BILLY EUGENES
Based on every other game today, I'm pretty sure I know what's going to happen in this ORU UF game.
To be specific, one of the two teams will have a shot to win and blow it
EXPECT A(NOTHER) MIRACLE
Absolutely nutso tournament
Nice try, Florida.:face_with_rolling_eyes:
Nova wins big over the Mean Green.
Weird seeing Jay Wright in a sweater. What happened to the D'Annunzio suits?
Jeez, if this keeps up he'll start to look like Belichick,
Okie St. getting spanked at halftime by Oregon St. 44-30.
OSU might still win this one
Pathetic showing from the B12 today other than Baylor.
I have just today seen more abysmally missed shots from < 3 feet than I have seen in entire tournaments.
Refs have called two bogus fouls, one on each team in the last minute.
Boy that escalated quickly
60 free-throws have been shot in this game already. So ya, pretty much refball. Surprised no one has fouled out yet.
Speaking of Oklahoma State, did anyone catch the wrestler AJ Ferrari last night? 197 pounder. Total stud wrestler, but he's a freshman and thinks he's a pro wrestler because he's always smack talking, posing, flexing his enormous biceps, etc. There's an all time great heavyweight right now from Minnesota who is actually named Gable Dan Stevenson. This freshman just said "Next year I'm moving up to heavyweight so I can beat you".
Cade is not playing to his strengths. He’s a jumbo PG, not a guy you want playing hero ball. Neutralizes his biggest strength.
This is just awful basketball by the way. Cade Cunningham is the top pick in the draft but can't score against Oregon St.? LOL, some dude just shot an airball. His shooting form looked worse than my shot.
28% shooting for Oklahoma St. Not going to beat anyone doing that. Maybe Texas.
And the Big 12 goes 0-for-3 on the day. Meanwhile, the much-maligned Pac-12 is 6 and 0.
Hope we can do something about that tomorrow against USC.
Wayne Tinkle wins in Hinkle.
@nwhawkfan PHOF!!
@KirkIsMyHinrich oklahoma?
@approxinfinity Just meant from yesterday's games. Oklahoma had a good effort against Missouri for sure.
Early impression of the Oregon/Iowa game. Race to 100
Iowa in 10 words or less. 4 jump shooters around 1 space eating big
Oregon has a 6'6 guy playing the 5. Insane to think that works
If you're in the P12 conference, apparently everything works.
Other thoughts, Oregon likes to Dunk. It helps when Iowa can't defend anything. Their 5 is a matchup problem due to his inside/out ability but Dave would have 4/5 inches on him. He's basically Marcus Garrett height with 30 pounds.
Garza already has 12 points, he's on pace for about 50. We'll see if he can keep that up or if the speed of the game is going to wear him out.
He's the entire offense other then some guys making open 3's. Been Iowa all year
Hot Take: Chris Duarte will be drafted before Luke Garza
Exciting game. 70 points scored in 13 minutes. Both of these teams are bad matchups for KU
@BeddieKU23 Iowa in 10 words or less. No Sweet 16's this century. Whiny Brat coach.
Garza has 20. there's 4 minutes remaining in the first half
This is an offensive clinic. 44-44 with 2 to go before half
@BeddieKU23 does either team even have a defensive game plan?
The best defense is a good offense sort of game plan for both teams.
Iowa is just hoping they go cold from outside. Their zone is awful
Some Iowa players were saying seriously that they were the best defensive team in the country before the tournament started. How's that going right now?
Talk about blowing smoke up their own
Can't remember the last time I saw a half with 102 pts total
Hot Take: Iowa couldn't guard me and 4 other bucketeers
There is no one on the floor that Garza can guard. That is really killing them. Also, when you make everything you look really good. This is the first time I have watched Oregon at all and they look damn good.
A charge was taken. Defense can now go away
Only 24 points scored in the 2nd half so far in 6 minutes. Or about KU's average for the first half in 20
Thinking ahead if KU were to play Oregon. Marcus Garrett guards Omoruyi. Would be an absolute waste of time to put Dave on him. He's George Niang with athleticism
Hot Take: Iowa as a #2 seed was the worst seeding in the entire tournament
Agreed. I picked them to lose to GCU. And I had Oregon going to the S16.
BIG Embarrassment, but I don't mind Iowa losing. The worry is that the PAC12 is feeling all high and mighty and USC is very confident now.
So now we have the chance to take down two Pac-12 schools in a row. Not mention avenging the 2017 tourney loss to the Ducks.
First things first though...gotta get past the Trojans.
Garza was always going to get his points. The key was to stop everyone else.
Oregon D held three of their starters scoreless.
Well I'll say this Oregon couldn't possibly score like this again.
@nwhawkfan In the BIG tournament Wisconsin let Luka score almost at will and hung in there. Iowa only pulled away when some of the others started scoring.
well guessed I missed it. - -So what I'm seeing or at least sounding like is -- -Illinois AND Iowa both lost yesterday?
One of my favorite KU games was in the Elite 8 in 2002 we played Oregon and just steam rolled them. Aaron Miles was flying all over. Oregon had Luke Recker (?) who was their big star, but we had some quality and depth on that team. Just a great game.
Ya I know very early but Reaves just going off for Oklahoma
OU delivering the best defense Gonzaga has seen all season.
If OU wants ANY CHANCE - -ANY CHANCE at all they can't afford going in at half any further down then like 7 at most I would think
OU was took to the woodshed just as everyone else that has trying to beat them.
@BeddieKU23 ya after he hit his 1st try Manik chunking up 40 ft shots REALLY HELPS got guys catching right at the hole and kicks it up - - WTF ? - -WIDE OPEN you can't miss opportunities like that and expect to have any chance. - then Kruger taking Manik AND Reaves out at the same time - come on man you gotta roll the dice there is no tomorrow , you just have to rely on the guys not to commit silly fouls these guys worthless on the bench and where the hell you gonna score from with them out
Harkless looks shook
I monitor ticket prices and I'm shocked Michigan tickets are really low of all the remaining games yet they're the closest to Indy. I don't know if their fans are not confident because of the injury to Livers or what, but it's surprising.
If manek was playing KU he would make shots
If Reaves was playing KU He would fake and cry for foul calls but instead takes step back bricks
When our game is beginning, we'll be in the sweet 17
OU goose cooked. Big 12 down to the two best
Will give OU some credit - thought they might cash it in, but they've been putting up a decent fight. Scoring - just can't stop the Zags. Doesn't help when Zags get four shots on one possession and Timmie doesn't get call for an obvious travel down low (moved his pivot twice). And, OU getting called for some questionable fouls; but not GU.
Ou made is so the announcers couldn't go all lance blanks and talk about their book collections
Reaves has some greyson Allen in him. Not the good part either
Why don’t teams foul and try to extend the game anymore?
Like they should have fouled a minute and a half ago.
Was it a push umm ya - -BUT a hard push ? - -give me a fricken break. - -If your gonna give that to these little golden spoon babies that then call the game and name a score now - - PLEASE we got hit a lot harder then that in practice -come on get real
@Kcmatt7 said in Today's Games Thread:
Why don’t teams foul and try to extend the game anymore?
OU didn't have fouls to give to be able to do that. At that point, they had too many guys already with 4 fouls like Harkless and Reaves so players would've been fouling out who OU needed to keep on the floor.
Watching the UCLA game, even more unfathomable that UT lost to Abilene-Christian. Yes, they play hard, but they simply can't score...
Dam Cam Thomas from LSU leads the Nation in Free Throws now forgot which one it was but lads the Nation at either Free Throws Made - - or Free Throws Attempted - -188 - - shooting 87 %
I don't know who to root against harder in this Michigan LSU matchup, so I'm cheering on Creighton
First team to 40 might win the Colorado Florida State game
I hate referees. Screwing Michigan right now
Someone remind me how many games Javonte Smart sat out?
@DanR said in Today's Games Thread:
I don't know who to root against harder in this Michigan LSU matchup, so I'm cheering on Creighton
2 words....trey burke. As much as I hate the sec....Michigan is still in my 20 year hatred for a tournament battle.
I'm pretty childish when it comes to teams beating ku in the tourney.
Mercy that was the most obvious blown call Michigan totally stepped out of bounds on the drive so what do the ref's do - - they call a foul on LSU LMAO YA THAT WORKS
Chaundee Brown a recruit Self lost to Danny Manning having a big game for Michigan. Always wanted him in crimson and blue
@BeddieKU23 I was just going to say...
Just goes to show how impactful transfers can be. Malik also proof of that.
Bill needs to really hit the transfer market hard
Remember watching him in peach jam 4 yrs ago and thinking his Sr year would be a good one. Been a solid team player for Michigan and glad he found a good spot to end his career.
Absolutely the transfer market should be used. Dedric, Malik, Moss have been + signees out the market. Some others not so much. Definitely have to find guys that fit specific roles here
Smart is a ball hog, Cam Thomas is way better then this cat
Chaundee with a career high 21 in a Michigan uni
Pretty high level of play by both teams compared to most games...
Winning time for Michigan. Will Wade's bought team falling apart after really playing well for about 32 minutes
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Winning time for Michigan. Will Wade's bought team falling apart after really playing well for about 32 minutes
Not if UM makes lazy, stupid passes that lead to easy layups...
Flipped it to the Michigan game for one minute and saw the blown out of bounds call. Guess it went downhill from there for LSU. Shame.
During our Baton Rouge years I'd go to LSU games. Wait for the TV timeout and pick out a court side seat that wasn't taken and go sit in it. No one ever questioned me. Saw Ben Simmons up close and personal a lot of times. LSU fans could care less about basketball.
The UM PG is trying hard to throw the game...
Michigan pointguard doing what he can to help, but LSU stinks for a reason
Garrett will guard Mobley lol
@wissox said in Today's Games Thread:
Saw Ben Simmons up close and personal a lot of times. LSU fans could care less about basketball.
I think Ben Simmons felt the same way about LSU.
Oregon St is terrible how did they make it this far
@BeddieKU23 Got hot at the right time.
Only took 37:17 for a team to reach 50 points.
The Midwest is the region KU was hoping to be in. A lot of slower paced, good defense, average offensive teams in the region would've given KU a much better chance that what KU did have to deal with.
Pac 12 will get at least 2 teams into the Elite 8.
Baylor better get it together they got work to do
Jay Wright pays officials.
Baylor in the 2nd half is the one team that can beat Gonzaga this year.
Arkansas is like "we are going to the Elite 8" and ORU is like "ORU"?
@approxinfinity ORU had a 10 point halftime lead the first time they played back in December and end up losing by 9. ORU knows they can play with Arkansas because they've already done it this season.
Arkansas holds off ORU by 2. ORU had a great look from 3 for the win, but it rimmed out.
@Texas-Hawk-10 too bad they went cold from 3. Coulda won comfortably if they didnt go ice cold from behind the arc.
@approxinfinity Bigger reason was rebounding. Arkansas grabbed 18 offensive rebounds. This was basically a repeat of their first game, just a closer final margin.
Houston looking good to make their first Elite 8 since the Phi Slamma Jamma days in 1984.
Houston by 16 over Syracuse.
Monday night is going to be Houston vs. Oregon St. and Baylor vs. Arkansas.
UCLA should have fouled. What are you doing, Bruins?
The announcer just before Alabama's play started. "This is the 29th anniversary of the Christian Laettner shot". I don't cuss but I felt like it. I mean his shot will go down in history, because of freaking CBS as the greatest shot in history. It wasn't better, (and this is just my memory) than Keith Smarts NCAA winning shot in 1987, or Scottie Thurmans shot in 1994, or of course Mario's shot in 2008 or the Villanova shot in 2016. Not even close. If Laettner misses his shot Kentucky goes to the FF instead of Duke. These freaking media types can't help but continuing to kiss Dukes a$$ even as it's been years since they were relevant.
@wissox You seem to ignore that the other shots were in the course of plays that started with more time left than Hill's full-court pass to CL. I hate Leitner, but it was a turnaround shot from a location he seldom would shoot from (and with no time to set up), so I consider it much harder than any of the shots that started with the player facing the basket.
In addition, it is really the whole play that was amazing, which to me is more like how Sherron's ball-handling and pass while falling helped make Mario's shot more memorable than Smart's.
All the shots were clutch, but I (despite holding my nose) have to award degree of difficulty points to the Dookies.
@mayjay No, I can't agree. I wouldn't even hold my nose and agree. I wouldn't even accept a 10,000$ agree with you fee and agree (ok, I might rethink that one). To me it was the fact that it was a shot to get to the Final Four. That's all. Sure, there's a different National Champion if Duke misses that shot, but I tend to believe it's only a famous shot because of the sports media obsession with Duke.
😎
As much as the Laetner shot gotten hyped and replayed, I guess I've actually started to think it was the championship game.
Then there's the best Duke miss in tournament history::beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Anyway, nothing will ever beat NCState's win over Phi Slamma Jamma
Looks like a former Jayhawk is going to the Final Four at least.
UH's offensive rebounding is the only reason why Houston isn't down double digits right now.
Houston going to their first Final Four since 1984.
Well, I wanted a 12 seed to make it to FF for the first time ever. But congrats to Houston. They played well, and its amazing to see Grimes playing with such confidence.
With Houston’s draw Kansas would have made the final four. There I said it. 1 seed difference. Upsets clearing the path.
Guaranteed to have an old SWC match up in the Final Four which is crazy because the SWC was never known as a basketball conference.
The state of Texas also looking for only its second ever national title in college basketball.
I'm not sure we beat that Syracuse team. We couldn't have shot our way out of it.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah it seemed like OSU got some motivation by my comment!
@benshawks08 Have you ever looked at our path in 1988? Upsets galore! Easier path, at least until the EE, FF, NC!
Geographically Michigan is the furthest east team still alive. ESPN must be going crazy. Great year for the west. Since UCLA's run ended in 1975 there have been only 5 west of the Mississippi champs, KU twice, UNLV, Arizona and Arkansas and UCLA. KU is the only team since Arizona in 1997 to win from the west. TTech almost added their name to the list. From the central time zone, KU, OK AM, Wisconsin, Loyola and KU are the only winners EVER. I like geography and worthless related trivia.
Big 12 now has had 4 different teams represent the league in the last 5 tourneys' final fours. Interestingly it's those 5 years now that has twice seen us not win the league. @drgnslayr pointed out that a tough league should help KU.
Dam Referee just Collasped during the Gonzaga game just flat went down. Hope he is ok
I want Gonzaga to win. Both teams beat us, but SC trounced us in the tourney. Hope that they get their asses handed to them.
southern Cal looking like grade School kids can't hang onto the ball with a dam - -you can't win if you can't even control the ball - - Sloppy - -Sloppy defense
So much for the idea that SC's bigs were going to hold Gonzaga at bay underneath.
Bulldogs outrebounding the Trojans 21-14 at the half. Twice as many points in the paint...32-16.
They just pass and pass and pass, until someone makes a shot. And they don't slouch on D either.
One step away from that long-delayed Gonzaga-Baylor matchup. Would love to see it.
Just two points shy of the over-under line of 153.
Passing and passing by USC didn't cut it. I thought Baylor looked like "bad ball Bill Self" on steroids last night in the second half. Guards never passed the ball to a big, ever, just drove to the basket for the last 15 minutes for layups or fouls. That might actually be the ticket to beating Gonzaga, plus playing tight perimeter D with Thamba in the middle to mess stuff up and Vital to hack at random. Hate to put any hope on a Scott Drew coached team though, so we'll see.
With ten minutes left on Thanksgiving Day we were behind the Zags by 1 point. It fell apart after that, but for 30 minutes we were as good as the best team in the nation. I really didn't take too much from that game as a sign of where this team was headed. But after watching the team that destroyed us a week ago get destroyed tonight makes it seem we're light years away. And yet, Baylor is a team we hung with before losing and then of course defeated. Strange KU season and if there's no covid affecting Jalen possibly we finished the year on a higher note.
@wissox said in Today's Games Thread:
With ten minutes left on Thanksgiving Day we were behind the Zags by 1 point. It fell apart after that, but for 30 minutes we were as good as the best team in the nation. I really didn't take too much from that game as a sign of where this team was headed. But after watching the team that destroyed us a week ago get destroyed tonight makes it seem we're light years away. And yet, Baylor is a team we hung with before losing and then of course defeated. Strange KU season and if there's no covid affecting Jalen possibly we finished the year on a higher note.
I have some hope for this roster but with a PG or two that knows how to control the game and is able to score.
Should lead to better looks consistently.
Pitiful end to the BIG season. Airball and a prayer that had no chance of being answered even by a very merciful and benevolent God.
Wow. I did NOT see that coming.
And no teams east of the Mississippi are left.
The network suits must tearing out what's left of their hair.
@wissox As I watched I was wondering which of the last second shots you were referring to!
So, I went to Michigan (for law school) and never cared about basketball there. Never went to a game. No feeling either when they won in 1989, nor last night when they got upset.
Also was accepted to UCLA, where I applied just because I thought it would be fun to be in LA and because of their bb history (last champ was while I was a junior at KU). I actually feel more allegiance to a school I never went to. Weird, huh? (Being a Bruins fan was seriously tested when Lonzo was there, however!)
Looking forward to the F4 because I can cheer for all the schools--well, Kelvin can go suck eggs, but I am happy to see Grimes succeeding.
So you were at KU in the 90’s when obannon and UCLA won or were you referring to their last 70’s championship?
UCLA is strange. They feel like they should be right up there with the rest of us blue bloods but I guess they’re living proof that a strong program can lose favor with the young guys who don’t know their history. Recruiting guys to UCLA should be the easiest part of the job for a Bruin coach but it’s not anymore.
Former Jayhawk Evan Manning is currently a Graduate Assistant for Mark Few at Gonzaga if anyone wants a reason to justify cheering for Gonzaga.
I like UCLAs roster. Definitely underdogs. Definitely try hard. They might get smoked but theyre easy to root for.
Arizona taking it to UConn in the Women's Final Four up 11 halfway through the 2nd quarter.
Zona up 9 going into the 4th. Their defense has absolutely shut down Paige Bueckers and UConn tonight.
Arizona pulls off a huge upset in the Women's Final Four knocking off UConn 69-59. They will play Stanford on Sunday night for the national title.
Ku recruited most of their roster
Both games had huge blown calls in the last few minutes. I think they had more effect in the first game, but the second game's refs should feel really crappy when they review the tapes.
"You mean I called a foul on someone who never was closer than a foot?"
"Yep. Enjoy next season in HS ball."
Baylor looking crisp early. - -Meyer quick 5 - -like - - - BAM quick
Baylor RIGHT NOW representing well 22-11
Baylor just WHUPPIN THAT ASS 33-17
Grimes looks like ku grimes tight now. Tentative, slow, poor d
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
@bmensch1 said in Today's Games Thread:
Grimes looks like ku grimes tight now. Tentative, slow, poor d
All I been hearing Hearing Houston Defense- -Houston defense , ummm Baylor defense not to SHABBY, and just toying with them making look like kids against boys
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
I'm still gonna stay in the minority I think Baylor gonna give Gonzaga fits
@jayballer67 Houston defense is good when they're not playing against superior athletes from the big 12, acc, or sec.
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
I'm still gonna stay in the minority I think Baylor gonna give Gonzaga fits
I don't know. Gonzaga's offense is otherworldly. Baylor has the speed to rotate defensively and two big bodies to throw at Drew Timme, but idk. I think Timme might eat Baylor alive. I would feel better if Baylor still had Freddie Gillespie. Also going to depend on how the game is called.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
I'm still gonna stay in the minority I think Baylor gonna give Gonzaga fits
I don't know. Gonzaga's offense is otherworldly. Baylor has the speed to rotate defensively and two big bodies to throw at Drew Timme, but idk. I think Timme might eat Baylor alive. I would feel better if Baylor still had Freddie Gillespie. Also going to depend on how the game is called.
Baylor offense is otherworldy today. - - I think Baylors 4 guards gonna give Gonzaga fits the way they pass the ball - don't think Gonzaga ha seen a defense as good as Baylor's defense in the tourney - -gonna be a good game. Ya Gonzaga could very easily win BUT I'm sticking with baylor - -they get beat -- they get beat but I don't think they gonna be able to toy with Baylor like they have so far with other teams
Brutal. You hate to see it
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Brutal. You hate to see it
ya do ? - - - - I sure don't
Ummm Houston we have a problem roflmao
I had a feeling both of these games would
Be brutal. Zags and Baylor is what all want to see Monday at this point
Houston getting hammered and the big 12 represented in the championship game really pleases me.
@bmensch1 said in Today's Games Thread:
Houston getting hammered and the big 12 represented in the championship game really pleases me.
you and me both - - - Impressive
Lets go Bruins!
Jaquez, Tyger Campbell and Riley are going to need to score some baskets bc Gonzaga is going to gameplan to take away Juzang
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Ku recruited most of their roster
REALLY DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.
@BShark said in Today's Games Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Today's Games Thread:
Ku recruited most of their roster
REALLY DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.
Lol i thought about it a lot this morning. I can see a lot of these guys on a Bill Self squad ;) lets go Bruins!
Why do people think The Final Countdown needs to be sung by a woman on quaaludes to make it relevant? Would this epoch is American culture please end? (Miley Cyrus singing American Woman was ironic and bad enough. Stay away from... Yourself? Nevermind brain! Don't engage!)
Ayayay.... Ayayi
A lead at the first timeout. Nice!
Jaquez! These guys came to play.
UCLA making Timme play defense is very smart.
Cronin is 10000 % right Suggs traveled - but of course it's Gonzaga
UCLA been right there for the 1sr 13 minutes. - -Has to give them a little confidence
Here come the zebras
Wow hot bullshit
UCLA getting Gonzaged - -holy crap
2 points plus foul on jaquez
Didn't think UCLA's offense was capable of scoring this many in a half against a good team.
Timme needs to lose
Is there enough lube in the arena for these announcers & Gonzaga
@Texas-Hawk-10 hope they dont get rattled. Got a nice balance.
UCLA just needs to maintain game plan for the rest of the 1st half - - don't get sped up, play a really solid game so far
Take away Timmes baseline when back to basket every time. Good job Riley.
UCLA not doing to bad holding up against 5-8 -- UCLA double the fouls, it was Gonzaga with 5 fouls and UCLA had 3. - -NOW Gonzaga has 5 fouls and UCLA 10? - -last 7 fouls against UCLA ? - - things that make you go hmmmmm,
eliminate that baseline up and under on him
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
things that make you go hmmmmm
Makes me go "hmmm...UCLA sure has done some dumb fouls"
@mayjay said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
things that make you go hmmmmm
Makes me go "hmmm...UCLA sure has done some dumb fouls"
makes me go hmmm how Gonzaga mugs some people and nothing
Officiating has been blatant in this game, and I don't really care who wins.
I mean UCLA has gotten the worse side of the whistle and you'd have to be blind not to see it.
UCLA only 7 points short of their total from the E8 win over Michigan. This pace absolutely favors Gonzaga and UCLA is really going to have to muddy the game up in the second half to have a chance and play at a snail's pace.
UCLA is doing a really good job of playing at their pace. They are taking their time in half-court sets and not turning the ball over too much (just 5 for the game so far). Gonzaga hasn't had a lot of opportunity to get out and run, at least by their standards. Unfortunately for UCLA, Gonzaga is shooting 61% from the floor and 50% from 3. Yet UCLA is only down a point.
Think UCLA has played about as well as they can play and now down by 1. - -think it's gonna catch up with them in the 2nd half Gonzaga probably win. - -Makes me feel even better about Baylor - -seeing when they play against an aggressive attack the rim type team - -a team that competes on the boards and gives Timme something to think about a little different story.
Gonzaga hasn't been tested in the Tourney tonight has played well -still think Baylor's 4 Guards - - - Butler - - Teague - - Mayer & Mitchell gonna cause them some problems
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
UCLA is doing a really good job of playing at their pace. They are taking their time in half-court sets and not turning the ball over too much (just 5 for the game so far). Gonzaga hasn't had a lot of opportunity to get out and run, at least by their standards. Unfortunately for UCLA, Gonzaga is shooting 61% from the floor and 50% from 3. Yet UCLA is only down a point.
I think it might get a little ugly for UCLA in the 2nd half - but a really game plan in the 1st half - - UCLA shot 58% themselves
@BShark said in Today's Games Thread:
Officiating has been blatant in this game, and I don't really care who wins.
been pretty bad in favor of Gonzaga
I think there's a good chance both teams come back to earth a little with shooting percentages. If UCLA can just keep playing at their pace and not turn the ball over in the 2nd half then they have a shot.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
I think there's a good chance both teams come back to earth a little with shooting percentages. If UCLA can just keep playing at their pace and not turn the ball over in the 2nd half then they have a shot.
ya thats the HUGE thing, they have to stick to their game plan -- - be patient - - work the clock take advantage of mis matches - don't get sped up against these guys. Keep the game close into the last 5 minutes, where anyone's game see how Gonzaga withstands legit pressure. Again they haven't been challenged until tonight. - -UCLA led for like 18 of the 20 minutes in the 1st half.
The first 6-7 minutes of the 2nd half going to be HUGE for UCLA
Is this halftime longer?
CBS getting extra ads in? Did they cut out the Duke special? Something is different.
I think Gonzaga's Kispert & Suggs going to find it a little harde rscoring 3's against Baylor's defense. Mitchell probably on Kispert maybe Butler on Suggs - gonna be a good game I hope
John Beileins next excuse... "i didnt tell the team to stop acting like thugs. I said stop acting like Suggs"
UCLA has gotten lucky - -real lucky a couple of times tonight , Gonzaga with a couple of wide - - wide - - open three's and missed. Kispert missed one , Timme missed one. That doesn't usually happen had ttime to set their feet just missed that's not going to happen very often especially with Kispert.
I said the first 6-7 minutes was going to be huge for UCLA they still right there
Suggs might take over still.
I really like Rileys awareness of the whole court and composure when he has the ball deep in the paint.
4 point lead is Gonzaga's biggest lead of the night
W. T. F. call. Flagrant 1 my ass
There is the turning point of the game , mark it down 12:08 in the game now down 5 , mark my words with that call
Every time take away baseline. Ive never seen Timme not go baseline
Not stroking your unoriginal beard now Timme. Look kind of worried...
these missed free throws gonna come back and haunt UCLA
Zags getting the duke treatment. Turned it off after that BS flagrant and 1.
Never thought I'd root for Baylor, but I will.
Was that NOT a walk by Timme ?
@jayballer67 Kisperts possession looked like a walk
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 Kisperts possession looked like a walk
It's called Gongaza walks lmao
Then the don't make the shot - - well dam we will call a foul
Well win or lose you have to commend UCLA for keeping it close for this long. Tough team
Tyger has been owning Suggs anticipating the charge
Ayayi over the baxk?
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Ayayi over the baxk?
ya and NO CALL - - - AGAIN - - - IT'S gONZAGA
Is "lingerie on the deck" Rafterys way of saying "please fire me"?
No matter the out come , you got to give UCLA major , major , major props. - -Gonzaga knows they been through a ball game
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Is "lingerie on the deck" Rafterys way of saying "please fire me"?
Lacy lingerie - -real dainty
Moving screen om timme on that ayayi layup
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Moving screen om timme on that ayayi layup
not only that but did you see the clear out with his left arm on the layup ?
I'm telling you these missed free throws gonna cost UCLA
UCLA 12-18 from the line & big misses
To think we was recruiting Juzang - - mercy - -Big time ice in those veins
Mercy - -what a Game , here is your championship game lol. Can Monday top this ?
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
To think we was recruiting Juzang - - mercy - -Big time ice in those veins
Juzang would've been a bust here. Homesickness was a big part of why he flamed out at Kentucky and would've happened here too. Same deal with Grimes, homesickness was a big part of his issues at Kansas.
Jalen Suggs is a stud.
Call me crazy - - - I'm still taking Baylor
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Call me crazy - - - I'm still taking Baylor
Baylor used their A+ game tonight and Gonzaga is having their off night tonight. If Gonzaga holds on, they're going to beat Baylor by double digits.
Wow bailed out on that one.
I've seen that one called both ways. Overtime!
Wellp
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Today's Games Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
Call me crazy - - - I'm still taking Baylor
Baylor used their A+ game tonight and Gonzaga is having their off night tonight. If Gonzaga holds on, they're going to beat Baylor by double digits.
No way
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Wow bailed out on that one.
That was a charge. Timme was growing roots in that spot.
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Wellp
this is the Championship game - - right her, can't get any better then this
@Texas-Hawk-10 i was referring to the one where Jaquez drew the phantom foul. Bad call in favor of UCLA.
UCLA mentally done? Leaving small defender on Timme
Juzang hasnt gotten enough touches in OT.
Wow. That may be it
"Step back jack. Lose a little lingerie! Please please fire me!"
HO - LEE -SHIT !!!
Oh my god.... So good!!
Jalen Big Nuts Suggs!!!
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus Christ. Did he call bank?
Doesn't matter. Zags move on.
"these kids carressing and applauding one another. Please God fire me"
And it'll be the final (almost) everyone wanted to see.
Guaranteed first time national champion this year.
Evan Manning is a GA at Gonzaga, Go Zags!
Congrats to Suggs. Great kid.
What is it that Bill Raftery says ? ONIONS !
GREAT GREAT GAME BRUINS. - -no such thing as moral victorys , moral victories don't translate to W's but STILL nothing to be ashamed of by any means.
Suggs with a Christian Lattener type shot only further - -good defense arms straight up and you know he didn't call bank
@approxinfinity said in Today's Games Thread:
Congrats to Suggs. Great kid.
been really good in his ONE and only year in College ball
No matter who wins, there's no way the final can top this one.
@nwhawkfan said in Today's Games Thread:
No matter who wins, there's no way the final can top this one.
not a chance
No way can Monday game top this game at all - - not a chance
I woke up the kids yelling :)
Glad I made it back from church service in time to catch the end. Guess I missed a good first 35 minutes.
Speaking of which, Happy Easter everyone !
@nwhawkfan I didn't miss for church, but I'm glad you did! (priorities!). But I am visiting family, was having a great time playing games, totally forgot about the game. Came home, remembered they'd played, it was past 11 here in Pittsburgh and Figured it was over. I'd check score in a few minutes. When I did I couldn't believe that espn said 22 seconds left in OT. Quickly turned on TV to see Few shaking Cronin's hand. Started watching post game still unaware of how it'd ended until 5 minutes later they showed replay. Actually got my wife out of bed and said you've got to see this. Amazing. I wouldn't trade the fun evening with family but I'm a bit sad I missed the game, or at least the ending.
And for those of you rooting for the Pac-12, there's always the women's final tomorrow. Stanford - Arizona. (And not an Auriemma in sight...)
@approxinfinity She can't sing at all. Sounded and looked horrible.
@approxinfinity There is a good deal of Leitner in him, and that is just as annoying now as it was then.
We would feel differently about Timme if he got the KU offer that his dad was hoping for ngl.
@approxinfinity At the time Udoka, Dave and Silvio were all on the roster is part of it.
Stanford held off Arizona by 1 to win the women's national championship. Aari McDonald wa smothered on the last possession and had to throw up a prayer shot that bounced off the backboard.
This is Stanford's first title in 29 years and 3rd overall.
@Texas-Hawk-10 That was the worst inbound strategy and execution I have ever seen.
"Okay, we want the ball in the hands of the best shooter we have ever had for the last shot. So, let's start with her tiny self in the lane and see what happens as our inbounder worries because no one is open, then looks away when our shooter gets open so she has to pass it while McD is running away from the basket. That way, our shooter will have to go back toward the basket drawing everbody in the arena to defend her. What could go wrong?"