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With so much player movement in the NBA, i wanted an easy place to remind myself who's where! So, a list of former Jayhawks in the NBA (some who left for other schools). Please add any i missed!

SG Svi Mykhailiuk -- New York Knicks

SG Quentin Grimes -- New York Knicks

SG Kelly Oubre Jr -- Charlotte Hornets

G Christian Braun -- Denver Nuggets

SG Josh Jackson -- Toronto Raptors

PG Marcus Garrett -- Miami Heat

PG Devonte Graham -- New Orleans Pelicans

PF Markieff Morris -- Brooklyn Nets

C Joel Embiid -- Philadelphia 76ers

F Ochai Agbaji -- Utah Jazz

C Udoka Azubuike -- Utah Jazz

SF Marcus Morris -- Los Angeles Clippers

PG Devon Dotson -- Washington Wizards

SF Andrew Wiggins -- Golden State Warriors

@rockchalkjayhawk Thank you!

Do you happen to know...are there any websites where you put in the names of players and get updates on them throughout the season? Maybe a fantasy site? It is hard to search each game for so many Jayhawks!

@mayjay Hmm, good question. Don't know any sites like that off the top of my head, but maybe something's out there.

@mayjay I use ESPN and add teams as favorites, so ESPN give news and scores on the teams. This does save time.

You can also add players under favorites, and I have most of Jayhawks in NBA included in my list.

You forgot the guy we got in recruiting trouble over. What’s his name… Zion Williamson - New Orleans. Lol

Braun guarding Wiggins made me smile

Warriors announcers called him BRAWN all night.
Funny. But he got some minutes at least.

Ochai had his best game, 7 pts in 18 mins. Even got mentioned in a The Athletic article about the 5-2 Jazz finding a new hero every game.

3 games, 5.3 average. But 0 for 5 from 3, so he needs to find his NBA long distance range!

I hadn't realized Marcus Garrett had a shot, but he broke his wrist back in mid October. He'll be out a little while longer. Hopefully he gets to stick with the varsity squad.

Anyone know what happened to Ben McLemore? He doesn't appear to be on any rosters and was wondering if he was hurt or what?

@Woodrow said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Anyone know what happened to Ben McLemore? He doesn't appear to be on any rosters and was wondering if he was hurt or what?

Free agent

@Woodrow said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Anyone know what happened to Ben McLemore? He doesn't appear to be on any rosters and was wondering if he was hurt or what?

He's young and very rich. Mayjay reported he's made over 30 million dollars in the NBA so far.

@Woodrow This is what I posted in the Devonte thread (which digressed into a lot of players)a few days ago when Jethro asked the same question:

"Last played in the NBA with Portland last year. Had a tryout in Sept with Golden State but not signed. May be waiting for a team to need a vet, because I can’t find anything indicating he has gone overseas.

"Made $30.9 million in his career, averaging 9 pts and 2.3 assists."

Doke and Obaji both played in 2 games for the Jazz this week. Not much stat-wise but nice they are getting some time. Most recent game they each only played 1 min, no stats. Glad Doke wasn't released.

Ochai with his best game as a pro tonight. 3-4 3 pointers and 11 points total.

Jacque Vaughn is now 24-8 since he took over as head coach of the Nets. I hope he leads them to an NBA title.

Och with another good game. 21 minutes, 19 points, 7/7 fg with 4 three pointers.

@rockchalkwyo awesome!

OCHAI! 17 points • 6-8 FG • 3-4 3FG • 2-2 FT.He had 31 minutes yesterday.

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

OCHAI! 17 points • 6-8 FG • 3-4 3FG • 2-2 FT.He had 31 minutes yesterday.

The good old three for four for three.

Moving day…

Svi to Charlotte.

Svi will have made $10.5M in his career now.

I'd imagine this is his last year on an NBA roster, but good for him. I'd imagine he goes to Europe and balls out for a bit.

@rockchalkjayhawk Thought I saw on twitter Portland. Not hardly seeing the floor so I'd say Kcmatt7 is right.

Poor Jacque, everyone leaving Brooklyn.

Looks like a bit of confusion on Svi, but he’s reportedly flipped to Charlotte as part of another deal. But what they do with him remains to be seen?

Graham traded to San Antonio

I hope that's a good landing spot for Graham.

Nets really messed up on Kyrie and KD.

Devonte Graham goes to San Antonio. I wonder if Tyler Self helped with that one.

Svi goes to Charlotte...lol. I guess Devonte can help him find his way around there.

I don’t believe it has been mentioned but Markieff

Morris goes to the Mavericks as part of the Kyrie deal.

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

I don’t believe it has been mentioned but Markieff

Morris goes to the Mavericks as part of the Kyrie deal.

Sorry for Markieff. I would want to be as fr away from that sniveling little bitch as possible. - He just acts let the classic spoiled rotten golden spoon ass , every time you turn around that ass wants traded - -someone hurting his feelings. - It's to bad as he is a really good player but- screw that he is a CLASSIC CANCER for others, I know one thing I bet Markieff won't bent down and kiss his ass

DEVONTE GOES OFF IN HIS SPURS DEBUT!!!! Sorry for the caps, but he scored 31 freaking points and the Pelicans were hardly playing him anymore making me think he's washed up. He did jack up 16 threes to make his 6 three pointers. And the Spurs are horrible so maybe it's not too much to get excited about, but wow, 31 points!

Doke been getting some minutes this week for just about the first time all season. In very limited action, but still playing in 18 games, he's missed 3 shots all season. 16-19!! He's logged a third of his minutes in the last two games. Glad to see him getting some run.

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

DEVONTE GOES OFF IN HIS SPURS DEBUT!!!! Sorry for the caps, but he scored 31 freaking points and the Pelicans were hardly playing him anymore making me think he's washed up. He did jack up 16 threes to make his 6 three pointers. And the Spurs are horrible so maybe it's not too much to get excited about, but wow, 31 points!

I wonder how much having Tyler in the Spurs system as well as Bill's relationship with Pops made that trade happen. The Pelicans simply wasted him away on their bench. I am so grateful he is a Spur.

Och started for Jazz last night

@AsadZ Unfortunately, did nothing to justify the start...

Jo Jo with 37 & 13 tonight - - just another typical night for the big boy

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

BRAUN BREAKOUT - 30 POINTS 10 ASSISTS 10 REBOUNDS.

Fake

@BShark said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

BRAUN BREAKOUT - 30 POINTS 10 ASSISTS 10 REBOUNDS.

Fake

That's a normal Jokic stat line though

@BShark then i fell for it...lol.

@BShark said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

BRAUN BREAKOUT - 30 POINTS 10 ASSISTS 10 REBOUNDS.

Fake

I was all excited. Why do people make shit up and post it?

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@BShark said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

BRAUN BREAKOUT - 30 POINTS 10 ASSISTS 10 REBOUNDS.

Fake

I was all excited. Why do people make shit up and post it?

For attention sadly. I saw it and the first thing I did was go check the last box score to see if it was legit. He actually scored 11 points in their last game.

Ochai got another start and played 39 minutes and scored 17 points tonight in a loss against Memphis.

Christian Braun played 27 minutes and scored 6 points with 3 rebounds and 4 assists in a win over the Mavericks.

Devonte Graham had a rough shooting night going 3-12 and 1-8 to score 10 points in the Spurs loss to Charlotte where Svi scored 12 points in 25 minutes.

Embiid with 29-14 in a win over Cleveland.

Oubre been averaging 25 per game in March since coming off a 2 month stint on the injured list. He's playing great on a pretty bad team.

Embid for MVP.

@AsadZ said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Embid for MVP.

How about MVP for tonight as well? He's in my DFS lineups tonight.

Another really solid stat line for Ochai last night - 20 pts on 8-15 from the field, 3 RBs, 4 assists and 3 blocks...

Svi getting some minutes since Oubre got hurt again. Started tonight and had 18 points, 8 assists, 5 RB's and even 3 steals and 2 blocks. Every one of those numbers are season highs.

How's this for a Season stat line : - Jo Jo - - - 33.3 ppg-- -10.2- rpg - - 1.7- blocks per - - 34 % - -3pt shooting , not bad for a 7 footer - - -54 % Fg - - 85.6- -Free throw % -&- - -4.2 assists per - -pretty dam good - - -MVP GOOD ? --HELL YA

@jayballer67 I think he has some eligibility left if he wants to leave a lasting legacy at KU. 😂 😂

@dylans said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 I think he has some eligibility left if he wants to leave a lasting legacy at KU. 😂 😂

lmao - - oh man could you imagine ?- - -that would be so crazy. Sure wish he wouldn't of been hurt tourney time when he was here. Bill just flat told him - -get out lol , no he told JO ,Jo not to come back said you are not doing yourself any good here. Which was true - what a stud

I see Svi is starting for Charlotte. 15+ every night.

Utah starting lineup tonite: Ochai and Doke. Let's see some dunks, baby!

Utah vs. Denver today...Jayhawks prominent...Ochai with a team leading 28 points! That's the good. 10-25! from the field, so not very efficient, but...Doke with 8pts and 11 RB in a Utah win...CB solid in the loss with 14 pts on 5-8 from the field, 6 RBs and 3 steals and +4...

Embiid won the scoring title this season.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Embiid won the scoring title this season.

Dang are they that close to the end of the NBA Season ? - Mercy time flies - -Great news for JO JO. Last I knew he was like right at 32.3 ppg

@DCHawker said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Utah vs. Denver today...Jayhawks prominent...Ochai with a team leading 28 points! That's the good. 10-25! from the field, so not very efficient, but...Doke with 8pts and 11 RB in a Utah win...CB solid in the loss with 14 pts on 5-8 from the field, 6 RBs and 3 steals and +4...

Watch some clips of CB - -guarding Ochai - wow lol

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Embiid won the scoring title this season.

Dang are they that close to the end of the NBA Season ? - Mercy time flies - -Great news for JO JO. Last I knew he was like right at 32.3 ppg

Today is the last day of the regular season.

We had CB guarding Ochai last night. Doke was the center. I have made good $$$ off playing Jayhawks this weekend!

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Embiid won the scoring title this season.

Dang are they that close to the end of the NBA Season ? - Mercy time flies - -Great news for JO JO. Last I knew he was like right at 32.3 ppg

Today is the last day of the regular season.

crazy

Braun stirring up some sh*t tonight. Awesome to see. He’s a spark plug for that team.

@rockchalkjayhawk saw that, a lil elbow to his jaw.

Kinda tough. Having to root a gainst one former Jay Hawk against the other. One Jay Hawk gonna have to lose this series. - -Jo , Jo , and the Sixers going against Jacque and the Nets. - Dammit.

So Jacque love ya as a former and great player buddy but - -I've got to go with Jo Jo just think they have a lot better chance to go further- -my man Jo Jo

Hard one. Happy that Jacque is having success after the firesale. Hope he has a great run in Brooklyn

Sixers. Might as well say Philadelphia ( Big 12 ) Sixers lol. sprinkled with Big 12 players. Of Course Jo Jo - - Then you have PJ Tucker ( Texas wasn't he ) - Then George Niang 9Iowa State - -there you have it - let's go Jo Jo

Typical Jo Jo night. - -little low on scoring but still 20 points - - 18 rebounds - - - 7 assists - - & 3 blocks - - ho hum - - lol

@approxinfinity said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hard one. Happy that Jacque is having success after the firesale. Hope he has a great run in Brooklyn

I absolutely loved Jacque as our point guard. He was fantastic. Probably still my favorite pg.

@dylans said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@approxinfinity said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hard one. Happy that Jacque is having success after the firesale. Hope he has a great run in Brooklyn

I absolutely loved Jacque as our point guard. He was fantastic. Probably still my favorite pg.

Among KU pt guards quite the array of choices of favorites. JoJo White, Cedric Hunter, Jacque, Kirk, Aaron Miles, Russell Robinson, Sherron, Frank, Devonte, DDot and now DaJuan. What a list! Hard for me to pick one, but DaJuan is right up there as a championship winning guard on my list, even if he did have a massive brain fart which could have forced us to OT.

I was trying to remember if Steve Woodberry was a pt guard and trusted source Wikipedia called him a shooting guard/small forward. He is a scout in the TWolves organization which means there's another Jayhawk in the playoffs!

@wissox No Valentine love??? Retired jersey, 3-time Academic AA, 2d team AA and on some AA lists, all around great guy. A few years before your time...so was Jo Jo.

6th in assists, 7th in scoring, first in steals...

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36224467/nba-nbpa-memo-outlines-new-nba-draft-selection-requirements ↗

It looks like HS/college kids will have to participate in the combine to be draft eligible soon. G-league has new draft eligibility requirements as well.

Hoping I gte to see some CB tonight- -just curious did Och make the playoffs ?

CB plays tomorrow night and Och is not in the playoffs.

@patoh3 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

CB plays tomorrow night and Och is not in the playoffs.

oh, ok thanks. thought CB played tonight

@jayballer67 I thought so too until I looked at the schedule with the game starting tomorrow at 9:00, but it does not specify if the time is EST or CST.

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hoping I gte to see some CB tonight- -just curious did Och make the playoffs ?

Only 4 KU players are in the playoffs this year. Braun, Embiid, Marcus Morris, and Wiggins are it for KU players this season.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hoping I gte to see some CB tonight- -just curious did Och make the playoffs ?

Only 4 KU players are in the playoffs this year. Braun, Embiid, Marcus Morris, and Wiggins are it for KU players this season.

Dang , no Kelly -no Och. --Let's see Marcus is he still with Celtics ?

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hoping I gte to see some CB tonight- -just curious did Och make the playoffs ?

Only 4 KU players are in the playoffs this year. Braun, Embiid, Marcus Morris, and Wiggins are it for KU players this season.

Dang , no Kelly -no Och. --Let's see Marcus is he still with Celtics ?

Clippers

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Hoping I gte to see some CB tonight- -just curious did Och make the playoffs ?

Only 4 KU players are in the playoffs this year. Braun, Embiid, Marcus Morris, and Wiggins are it for KU players this season.

Dang , no Kelly -no Och. --Let's see Marcus is he still with Celtics ?

Clippers

ya I see that now at top of thread

Phila and Den in the finals will be nice

Joel and CB in action

@mayjay Yes he should have been, but he was before my KU time so I wasn't that familiar with him. I do have this story though. I was waiting around Robinson Gym to get in a pickup game and this dude asks me if I can rebound for him since he's practicing his shooting. I was kind of dumbfounded like get your own dang rebounds but I didn't have a chance to say that because he told me he was Darnell! I enjoyed the 15 minutes or so of watching a KU great.

I wonder if Spartan fans on their equivalent of SpartanBuckets are proud of Draymond in their Spartans in the NBA section? If he was a Jayhawk alum I'd just have to block him out of my reasons to be proud of my school.

Jo Jo needs to alm down a little bit. He not careful he going get ejected. Phlly can't have that

Well think Jo Jo hurt his back again - -went to the locker room. been knocked down twice in the 1st quarter

@jayballer67 Love me some Embiid. Only oad that captivated me. He would never have made it in the 90s nba though. Just too fragile. He’s playing in the correct era for his body. Think he will win mvp this year or did joker get it again?

@dylans said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 Love me some Embiid. Only oad that captivated me. He would never have made it in the 90s nba though. Just too fragile. He’s playing in the correct era for his body. Think he will win mvp this year or did joker get it again?

not sure if they have said yet or not. -dam has went to the floor 3 times landing on his back. That's a lot of body to be hittin the floor. - -I like me some Maxey

Jo Jo on the floor FIVE TIMES in the 1st half

@dylans said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 Love me some Embiid. Only oad that captivated me. He would never have made it in the 90s nba though. Just too fragile. He’s playing in the correct era for his body. Think he will win mvp this year or did joker get it again?

just heard at half time - ya Jo Jo was the MVP

@jayballer67 That’s awesome!!!

That has to be one of the strangest/weirdest games I've seen. - - sixers up by 11 at half fall behind and play from behind most the 2nd half - - -Dam Jo Jo either falls/or gets hit and knocked to the floor NINE TIMES in the game. Maxey was HUGE. - - jO jO had a rough game REALLY physical. Jo Jo comes close to being ejected early for kicking between the legs. - - - -Then Hardin DOES get ejected on aa some what questionable call flagrant 2 - Jo ends up with only 14 points and 10 rebounds - but ONE HUGE block right at the end of the game HUGE -HUGE block - -Sixers fight through go up 3-0

Jo , Jo out for tomorrow's game - -no surprise there after being on the floor so much last night with his back. - Just hope he is a go the next game

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Jo , Jo out for tomorrow's game - -no surprise there after being on the floor so much last night with his back. - Just hope he is a go the next game

He's not out because of his back though, he's out with a sprained knee.

Christan doing what Christan does - - making three's & playing with that edge

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Jo , Jo out for tomorrow's game - -no surprise there after being on the floor so much last night with his back. - Just hope he is a go the next game

He's not out because of his back though, he's out with a sprained knee.

Oh , Ok -- ya I saw last night he was having trouble with Knee too. That's not good . He had a rough night really physical last night

That's worse might take a little more time

Super cool to watch Braun getting significant playing time in the 2nd half of this season. His lack of playing time the first half of the season had me a little worried he might have made a mistake coming out early, but he's clearly proving he belongs and playing for a team headed for the league semis it looks like.

Twitterverse is lauding Cristian for his defense on Durant.

Hmmm.. Where'd he learn to play that kind of defense??

Check out Braun’s steal and dunk on a disinterested Durant from last night’s game. Great play!

@HoraceZontal I was amazed at how excited the crowd got, as well as the announcers going full Rock Chalk mode on the replay!

That was great! It’s a shame (and I suppose a statement about Durant) that Durant didn’t try to contest it. I would have loved to see how that turned out.

Could be heading to a semifinal round with a Jayhawk on each team. Braun, Grimes, Joel and Wiggins all still in it. 6ers just frittered away a lead laying over dead in last four minutes. They'll have to win game 7 in Boston to make it.

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Could be heading to a semifinal round with a Jayhawk on each team. Braun, Grimes, Joel and Wiggins all still in it. 6ers just frittered away a lead laying over dead in last four minutes. They'll have to win game 7 in Boston to make it.

they had multiple chances late in the game when they was up two. Think like 4 straight trips 2 point lead with the ball an couldn't do anything. I think they just handed the series to the Celtics just don't think they are winnin a game 7 at Boston

Dam , that's our boy. -All Christan knows how to do is Championships. - - Won three State titles in High Schol, , was cut his freshman yr, won titles in his Soph , Jr , & Sr years. -- First yr at College was Covid yr --Then won Jr year & now has a chance to win NBA Championship in his 1st yr. Like he said that would be like 5 Championships in 7 years.

That ain't to bad, - I 5 out of 7 -- I don't car who you are, that's pretty god stuff right there as Larry the Cable Guy says lol

CB GOING WILD! Looking GREAT!

CB playing like a B-----!

That word you keep saying. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Go, CB......GO! LOL.

Tried to watch it. Enjoyed the third quarter. turned into a flop fest in the 4th quarter, so I'll check back on the NBA in 5 years.

Go, CB though. Don't be a flopper.

Ended up winning 2.00.

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Christan , - -Christan . Look at you - -, you a Baller 10 points in 13 minutes - -With a steal and the flush - -that's our boy

CB kicking A$$

Christan just eatin them up takin over 15 points getting a lot of minutes -- Just Ballin

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

CB kicking A$$

And TAKIN NAMES

I've been hyped for CB all year since I live in Colorado. Even went to Game 1 of the WCF against LA and bought a CB jersey.

I really didn't think he could do this though. As a rookie on this stage.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

I've been hyped for CB all year since I live in Colorado. Even went to Game 1 of the WCF against LA and bought a CB jersey.

I really didn't think he could do this though. As a rookie on this stage.

Got to say for rookie Seasons actually CB had a better season then Och

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

I've been hyped for CB all year since I live in Colorado. Even went to Game 1 of the WCF against LA and bought a CB jersey.

I really didn't think he could do this though. As a rookie on this stage.

Got to say for rookie Seasons actually CB had a better season then Och

I think CB has gotten more opportunity than Och this season. Braun has certainly earned every minute he's played this season though. Malone doesn't normally plays rookies a lot/at all.

Jokic with some praise for Braun in the post game interview.

Awesome game for Christian!

7-8? Wow!

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

I've been hyped for CB all year since I live in Colorado. Even went to Game 1 of the WCF against LA and bought a CB jersey.

I really didn't think he could do this though. As a rookie on this stage.

Got to say for rookie Seasons actually CB had a better season then Och

I think CB has gotten more opportunity than Och this season. Braun has certainly earned every minute he's played this season though. Malone doesn't normally plays rookies a lot/at all.

That's true - sure hope Och gets bettter opportunity next yr. -- The announcers just was all over about CB and how his grit and smart decisions during games. I love his edge, got that kind of don't screw with me attitude in a game, constant hustle that's our boy. I think he is itching himself into a solid role at Denver

Ochi killed it end of the year. He just didn’t get playing time early. Awesome to see CBs game!

CB's offensive stats were impressive, but he was also often guarding Jimmy Butler. His defense was equally impressive.

CB’s story is just unbelievable. Remembering him as a freshman to where he was when left here was a huge jump. Easily one of Self and Cos best developments. I honestly didn’t know if he’d see the floor a ton early his career. Not to take anything away from the Ochai’s and Mason type players but you could always see their athleticism.

@kjayhawks 22nd ranked SF in his 2019 class according to rivals. good stuff.

I remember redshirt chatter before 19-20. How far we’ve come

Well Christan got a chance for ANOTHE Championship tonight. - Go get em buddy

@jayballer67 Tomorrow

@mayjay said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@jayballer67 Tomorrow

Ya thanks guy, I just saw that, don't know what I was thinking of lol. Was reedy to kick back and watch some hoops- - - Mercy

Christian Braun is just the 5th player to ever win an NCAA title and NBA title in back to back seasons. And the 34th player to ever win an NCAA and NBA title.

Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Henry Bibby, and Billy Thompson are the only 4 other players to win an NCAA and NBA title in back to back seasons.

Pretty good company!

Also impressive that he logged 24 minutes in the deciding game...

@DCHawker said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Also impressive that he logged 24 minutes in the deciding game...

Ya I was just going to mention, he played a lot lst night. -Now there were a FEW things that wasn't the best but HEY still that's our boy. - -Christan got burnt mor then once on the defensive end, got the shot blocked - -BUT yet did have a coupe of rebounds-- and like 7 points - -and yet the Coach trusted him enough to have him on the floor for 24 minutes. I thik he is in a good spot

Christan 5th player to win NCAA title & NBA title back to back -- Christan is the 4th KU player under Coach Self to win A NCAA & NBA title - - Others are Chalmers , Rush , & Kaun

Wiggs and CB back to back!

@Texas-Hawk-10 If we don't suffer the first appearance of the Coach not OK whistle at the 86 FF, then we play Louisville in the championship, a team we'd beaten twice that year and maybe prevent Billy Thompson from being on that list.

Kieff won a championship as well. Darrell Arthur is a part of the Nuggets office staff so he just won a ring too!

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

Kieff won a championship as well. Darrell Arthur is a part of the Nuggets office staff so he just won a ring too!

But Markieff didn't win an NCAA title though. Self has had 8 KU players win NBA titles now, 5 of them have also won NCAA titles. The 3 that won NBA titles without an NCAA title were Markieff Morris with the Lakers in 2020, Andrew Wiggins last season with the Warriors and Wayne Simien with the Heat in 2006.

Morris and Simien easily could've had NCAA titles as well because there's no way KU loses to Melo in 2003 if Simien plays that game and KU was the best team in the country in 2010 and 2011 entering the NCAA Tournament.

@wissox 37 years and still obsessed! You post about K in that game, and the Wisc game, so often that I wonder if you remember Brown, Williams, and Self ever talking to the refs. Or do they just never try to influence them and smile graciously?

@mayjay I’m living rent free in your head obviously!

@wissox No, I charge. Just sign over however much K pays to live in yours! 🤑

@mayjay said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@wissox No, I charge. Just sign over however much K pays to live in yours! 🤑

Good luck with that, Coach K is clearly living rent free in @wissox head too, lol!

@Texas-Hawk-10 Ok, I thought the 'category' was Bill Self players who won an NBA title!

Oh Boy Christan living it up , living the life at the Parade. -- Cut off T-Shirt, WWE Championship Belt & A Bottle of Champagne - -THAT'S OUR BOY.

On a side note , there was a fan in the Crowd and he threw a beer up where Jokic & Murray were standing - -they think he was throwing to or at Murray , ended up hittin Jokic on the should bounced off and hit Jokics Wife in the face -- REALLY ? come on people, you gonna toss a beer holler at the guys first anyways-- -let them know

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Pretty sure Braun has been drunk until today since he had his camp in KC today.

@mayjay said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@wissox 37 years and still obsessed! You post about K in that game, and the Wisc game, so often that I wonder if you remember Brown, Williams, and Self ever talking to the refs. Or do they just never try to influence them and smile graciously?

That game made an oversized impression on the fans that are old enough to remember growing up with KU Basketball never being on TV, rarely making the tournament and when they did, bowing out promptly in the first round.

For me, that run to the Final Four was the beginning of the resurgence of KU's program. That game was the beginning of a rivalry with Duke. And it was validation that KU had a coach who could compete on the biggest stage.

That game lives rent free and that's a good thing. Without that chip, maybe we don't have the same tournament run for 37 years (ignoring 1989).

As for the reason for the loss, I ascribe it more to the Archie Marshall injury than anything else... but I think we all agree that if we play Louisville, they go down again.

@bskeet The Archie Marshall injuries were so heartbreaking! Motivated the '88 team, for sure.

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@mayjay said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@wissox 37 years and still obsessed! You post about K in that game, and the Wisc game, so often that I wonder if you remember Brown, Williams, and Self ever talking to the refs. Or do they just never try to influence them and smile graciously?

That game made an oversized impression on the fans that are old enough to remember growing up with KU Basketball never being on TV, rarely making the tournament and when they did, bowing out promptly in the first round.

For me, that run to the Final Four was the beginning of the resurgence of KU's program. That game was the beginning of a rivalry with Duke. And it was validation that KU had a coach who could compete on the biggest stage.

That game lives rent free and that's a good thing. Without that chip, maybe we don't have the same tournament run for 37 years (ignoring 1989).

As for the reason for the loss, I ascribe it more to the Archie Marshall injury than anything else... but I think we all agree that if we play Louisville, they go down again.

That was the game where we felt we had arrived. The Marshall injury was devastating, but it paved the way for 88 and the Miracle. And we haven't slowed down since. We have been so lucky to have followed one of the greatest dynasties in American sports history.

I still really kind of think the 86 team was our best team, at least since I've been paying attention. Great combination of veterans and young guys, great guard, great center, Danny, great shooting, would have love to see that group with a 3 point line, strong bench. Preseason #5, never higher than #9, and had won 16 in a row before being beat fair and square in the FF. @bskeet, the Marshall injury was tough and came near the end. But we had 4 guys foul out. Pretty significant factor as well.

@wissox Better than ‘97? I would like to see the ‘97 team play the ‘08 team. Would be a battle!

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

We weren't even close to being Top 10 that year. Maybe preseason we were thrown in the Top 10 based on the year before, but we were seriously lacking that year.

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

I still really kind of think the 86 team was our best team, at least since I've been paying attention. Great combination of veterans and young guys, great guard, great center, Danny, great shooting, would have love to see that group with a 3 point line, strong bench. Preseason #5, never higher than #9, and had won 16 in a row before being beat fair and square in the FF. @bskeet, the Marshall injury was tough and came near the end. But we had 4 guys foul out. Pretty significant factor as well.

Not the best but probably one of the Top 5 KU teams of all time, imho. That team was LOADED.

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

We weren't even close to being Top 10 that year. Maybe preseason we were thrown in the Top 10 based on the year before, but we were seriously lacking that year.

That's the point, KU had high expectations entering the season and that if you told someone before that season started that it would end with KU winning a title, it wouldn't have surprised that many people. This is also why I ended my statement with the journey between the start of the season and the title tells a very a different story about how that season went.

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@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

We weren't even close to being Top 10 that year. Maybe preseason we were thrown in the Top 10 based on the year before, but we were seriously lacking that year.

That's the point, KU had high expectations entering the season and that if you told someone before that season started that it would end with KU winning a title, it wouldn't have surprised that many people. This is also why I ended my statement with the journey between the start of the season and the title tells a very a different story about how that season went.

So, you think after losing every starter off the 86' team other than Danny we all thought 88 was in the bag? I assure you that was not the case.

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

We weren't even close to being Top 10 that year. Maybe preseason we were thrown in the Top 10 based on the year before, but we were seriously lacking that year.

That's the point, KU had high expectations entering the season and that if you told someone before that season started that it would end with KU winning a title, it wouldn't have surprised that many people. This is also why I ended my statement with the journey between the start of the season and the title tells a very a different story about how that season went.

So, you think after losing every starter off the 86' team other than Danny we all thought 88 was in the bag? I assure you that was not the case.

Had KU entered the '87-88 season having lost 4 starters, I think that'd be a valid point, but that's not reality now is it. KU did take some lumps during the '86-87 season which was to be expected, but still managed to finish in the top 20 of the polls with a Sweet 16 appearance, not too bad for a rebuilding year amd not all that different from our '08-09 team in a similar boat.

So, going into the '87-88 season, KU was coming off of a Sweet 16 appearance and returning 4 starters off of that team, includingDanny Manning. Based on that reality, KU was a justified preseason top 10 team with national title aspirations having the best player in country anchoring their team.

So again, if a team is coming off of a Sweet 16 appearance, returns 4 starters with one of those being the consensus best player in college basketball and you tell someone before any games tip off that season that team will win a national title, it wouldn't surprise many people.

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@Jethro said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

The Danny and the Miracles team might be the most bizarre national title team ever. We all know why they're called the Miracles, but if you told someone entering the season that KU would wind up winning the national title, not many would've batted an eye or been surprised by that outcome since KU was a preseason top 10 team. Everything between those two points tells a very different story obviously.

We weren't even close to being Top 10 that year. Maybe preseason we were thrown in the Top 10 based on the year before, but we were seriously lacking that year.

That's the point, KU had high expectations entering the season and that if you told someone before that season started that it would end with KU winning a title, it wouldn't have surprised that many people. This is also why I ended my statement with the journey between the start of the season and the title tells a very a different story about how that season went.

So, you think after losing every starter off the 86' team other than Danny we all thought 88 was in the bag? I assure you that was not the case.

Had KU entered the '87-88 season having lost 4 starters, I think that'd be a valid point, but that's not reality now is it. KU did take some lumps during the '86-87 season which was to be expected, but still managed to finish in the top 20 of the polls with a Sweet 16 appearance, not too bad for a rebuilding year amd not all that different from our '08-09 team in a similar boat.

So, going into the '87-88 season, KU was coming off of a Sweet 16 appearance and returning 4 starters off of that team, includingDanny Manning. Based on that reality, KU was a justified preseason top 10 team with national title aspirations having the best player in country anchoring their team.

So again, if a team is coming off of a Sweet 16 appearance, returns 4 starters with one of those being the consensus best player in college basketball and you tell someone before any games tip off that season that team will win a national title, it wouldn't surprise many people.

I'm probably misremembering it. I know I was talking to my brother in law back then all the time, and I remember us both thinking it was going to be a tough road to hoe. OU was simply better than us that year, which loomed over our expectations that year.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I do remember at Late Night they did a little lip sync thing with the Kansas City song with the line Kansas City here I come. It was a nod to the FF being played just down the road. I don't recall thinking yeah right as they were singing. I thought we had a chance, but then the season started!

They were preseason #7 that season but had a disastrous trip to Hawaii losing to the BIG Iowa and Illinois. That was a good Illini team but Iowa must've been really good as they were ranked 11 when we played them and they waxed us. We dropped out of the polls in the middle of January, and then lost five straight. We suffered the first home loss in my time at KU against Mitch Richmond and KSU, then lost to Oklahoma at home and our next home game we lost to Duke. Suddenly we had a 3 game home loss streak, but the 3 teams that got us at home you may recognize as our last three opponents in the tournament and we certainly avenged those losses!

@wissox what a sweet storyline! Must have been very satisfying as a fan. Felt like the luckiest fans on the planet for one shining moment?

@approxinfinity It was so unexpected, yet we'd played Duke close in the loss at home, played OU close twice during the regular season, had beaten KSU near the end of the season, but lost to them again in the Big 8 tourney, so we kind of new we could at least hang with anyone in front of us.

Funny thing too is that even though we were unranked we got a 6 seed and played 18th ranked Xavier in the first round! Xavier must've been pissed about that seeding. Xaviers best player was Barry Larkin's brother the HOF Reds shortstop. Then Murray State, an upset winner over 3 seed NC State (whom we had also beat during the reg season) nearly knocked us off with Danny preserving the win late.

@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

IMHO The ‘08 team would wipe the court with any other team Bill has trotted out. That defense was flat nasty. They took offense when the other team scored and might just go off on a 20-0 run purely out of spite.

96-97 was loaded in the post and Paul on the wing. Love me some Vaughn. Wow woulda coulda shoulda gone undefeated.

‘86 was before my time. Started watching in ‘90

@dylans Yeah I wouldn't argue 08 being the best Self team. That destruction of UNC was breathtaking. I also think if Wayne Simien was healthy in 03 that team goes on a UConn like run, or the way 'Nova did in 18 and we'd be talking about them as a GOAT like status. Poor Wayne couldn't keep healthy and it derailed his NBA career as I recall.

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@wissox said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@dylans Obviously it's an unprovable argument. 86 team beat the national champs twice! 97 team lost to the national champs! I know 97 was awesome and I surely would lose this argument a lot of times, but I also might win it a number of times too.

Funny thing is the 08 team, while super tough and resilient, paled slightly compared to the others mentioned. I don't think the 22 version was the best of the best KU teams either! But they both won praise the lord and are legendary teams.

IMHO The ‘08 team would wipe the court with any other team Bill has trotted out. That defense was flat nasty. They took offense when the other team scored and might just go off on a 20-0 run purely out of spite.

96-97 was loaded in the post and Paul on the wing. Love me some Vaughn. Wow woulda coulda shoulda gone undefeated.

‘86 was before my time. Started watching in ‘90

I'd love to see a 7 game series between the '08 team and the '20 team. That 2020 team was an absolute monster of team defensively and I think they could pick and roll the 2008 to death with Dotson and Doke because I don't think Jackson or Kaun could handle Doke down low. The big advantage the 2008 team would have is their outside shooting. Chalmers was at 47% and Rush was at 42% each at a very high volume and the 2020 team was not good from deep.

That to me would the keys between those two teams, could the 2020 team's defense force the 2008 team into a bad shooting night and could the 2008 team take Doke out of the game? What would hurt the 2008 team's chances at doing that is that none of Jackson, Kaun, and Darrell Arthur could shoot 3's so they wouldn't be able to pull Doke away from basket on defense.

I think if these two teams played a 7 game series, I would take the 2008 team in 6 or 7 games because I think they'd have enough good shooting nights even against that 2020 team's defense which I would pick as Self's best defensive team overall while 2008 would be his best offensive and probably 2nd best defensive team in my opinion.

@dylans said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

@wissox Better than ‘97? I would like to see the ‘97 team play the ‘08 team. Would be a battle!

Well, this would be a fun thread: Best KU teams to never win the championship.

I would submit there are 3 that would be vigorously argued for: 56-57, 85-86 and 96-97.

@bskeet said in Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022:

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@wissox Better than ‘97? I would like to see the ‘97 team play the ‘08 team. Would be a battle!

Well, this would be a fun thread: Best KU teams to never win the championship.

I would submit there are 3 that would be vigorously argued for: 56-57, 85-86 and 96-97.

Add 2020 to that list as well.

85-86. Started ranked 5th, never left the top ten, 2 losses to Duke, the other in MSG. Also lost at #9 Memphis and as they always did back then lost to Iowa St in Ames. That was an unranked loss, the others were top ten losses. They beat Louisville twice, featured NBA players Danny M, Ron Kellogg, and Greg Dreiling. Calvin Thompson briefly played too in the league.

96-97 was a juggernaut and I don't mind losing this argument. I just think the 85-86 version isn't discussed as much because some of ya'll were just little kids at the time! They were 2nd the first three seasons, and then ranked 1 the rest of the season. Double OT loss at Missouri only loss. Losing to eventual champ takes the sting off slightly, but most don't remember that Jerrod Haase had a sore/broken(?) wrist for that Arizona game, tried to go but couldn't play. That hurt a lot.

2001-02 is not being discussed but as I look at it, they indeed deserve to be part of this discussion. Lost to Ball St. in game 1 at Maui, then just rolled only losing twice til the loss to Maryland, eventual champ in the final four. They featured 3 future long time NBA players, no wonder they won a lot of games. If you look at their schedule it's a thing to behold as they went over 100 points 11 times. Somehow their low was 54 against Oklahoma, eventual FF team also with Kelvin Sampson as the coach that played stout defense. The slight blip against Ball dropped their ranking to 8th, but after winning at #4 Arizona never were ranked worse than 4th all season. Wow, how did that team not win it?